BYD escalates Australia's EV price war with $19,000 USD BYD Dolphin EV

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  • @electricviking
    @electricviking  14 днів тому

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  • @tsbrownie
    @tsbrownie 15 днів тому +84

    I have a Thai friend who has a Dolphin (490 km batt) and a Yaris. It took a year for her to have to put gas in the Yaris. She really loves the BYD.

    • @MrKOenigma
      @MrKOenigma 15 днів тому +11

      I have an old Mercedes w124 year 1993 as a backup to my electric Renault Zoe. I didn't drive it in the last 4 years, it still needs to be repaired now... What a waste that backup gas guzzler is...😂😂❤❤

    • @Ulbre
      @Ulbre 15 днів тому

      I 'm an Aussie who has lived in Thailand for almost 19 years. I have EV scooters and I will have an EV car when my ICE dies.
      My neighbour has a Neta V2, I don't think it's available in Oz yet but it's a super cheap 380 km no frills EV that costs AUD20K (was AUD18K 6 months ago but the Aussie "peso" has taken a nose dive.
      Anyhow, my neighbour is a travelling salesman for his rice mill equipment company. He is on the road Mon-Tue and Thu-Fri, 2 nights away from home, Wed he does the local area. He boondocks in his EV with AC running all night, mostly gets to boondock at his clients facilities and charges for free and uses their facilities to shower....but once a month has to boondock own energy and supercharge maybe 4 or 5 times a month, and showers at gyms on these occasions.
      We have a drink together most saturday nights and he reckons he will pay his mortgage off in another 4 years because of the living away allowance he gets and the per km "petrol" allowance. Good on him.
      Good on him, top bloke, found a way to make his EV work even harder for him.

    • @paulstubbs7678
      @paulstubbs7678 15 днів тому +5

      Biggest problem is paying two rego's, one for a car you basically don't use.

    • @tireddad6541
      @tireddad6541 15 днів тому

      I have two Volts, we use both. The 2012 gets 38 mpg with no battery, but I use it most of the time with very little gas. My wife uses the 2016 and gets 68 miles on the battery daily. ​@paulstubbs7678

    • @TwistofWrist
      @TwistofWrist 14 днів тому +1

      Same with my Model Y which we've already done 12k km in 6 months and the 10 years old CX5 just sits in the yard.

  • @ATCustoms87
    @ATCustoms87 15 днів тому +76

    In Malaysia. The dolphin is already cheaper then a Corolla even at launch.

    • @jdmguy44
      @jdmguy44 13 днів тому +1

      @@ATCustoms87 It should be cheaper. It's a small cheap quality Chinese EV that doesn't have the same quality as the Corolla nor will it have the same lifespan.

    • @ATCustoms87
      @ATCustoms87 13 днів тому +3

      @jdmguy44 you clearly never seen or own a Chinese EV. I own 4 Japanese cars so far and my first BYD Dolphin for my wife. Hands down BYD build quality are far better then any Japanese cars excluding higher end Lexus.

    • @jdmguy44
      @jdmguy44 13 днів тому +1

      @@ATCustoms87 😂 Chinese quality is nowhere near Japanese quality. Here in the UK for example MG/SAIC came bottom in "What Car's" reliability survey! A bit of research will tell you all you all you need to know. Parts availability is also a major issue with Chinese cars to the point where some are virtually uninsurable here in the UK. You may be fooled by Chinese cars but lots like me are not!

    • @ATCustoms87
      @ATCustoms87 13 днів тому +3

      @@jdmguy44 there are many Chinese brands out there not just MG. Pasta availability also depends on your country. I'm in Asia so it's easy for us here. Same as my JDM cars here too where parts are everywhere. As a jdm fanboy myself I do know my stuff too. I want Japanese to succeed but they keep disappoint me.

    • @johnnyrarere
      @johnnyrarere 6 днів тому

      ​@@jdmguy44 MG is the lowest quality of Chinese EVs

  • @rohankilby4499
    @rohankilby4499 15 днів тому +44

    Bye legacy auto, hello quiet, healthy clean cities. I won’t miss em 😁👍

    • @kstephenson9465
      @kstephenson9465 15 днів тому +4

      We were in the busiest part of Shanghai, a city of 33 million people and couldn’t believe the throng of cars and motorbikes, all electric, there was no pollution and no traffic noise at all, it was unbelievable, so advanced 👍🏽

    • @ysw8291
      @ysw8291 15 днів тому +2

      @@kstephenson9465 We were there in 2019 and the city streets were so quiet and clean. It felt serene.

    • @ceroandone
      @ceroandone 15 днів тому +2

      Battery waste?

    • @rozonoemi9374
      @rozonoemi9374 14 днів тому +1

      @@ceroandone Environment Friendly

    • @byddf
      @byddf 12 днів тому

      According to Microsoft Excel, who comes after BYD is BYE.

  • @aussie405
    @aussie405 15 днів тому +71

    Since I got my Dolphin in April 2024, I forgot how disgusting the smell at the servo was. I was trapped in the back seat of an ICE vehicle whilst it was filled up recently, try it, and decide if you want to do that to your child.
    Even with the price of my car going down, I don't regret the purchase. We have done about 11000km in it, charge it with sunshine. I love my Dolphin.

    • @lena19191
      @lena19191 15 днів тому +4

      Agree , I had a gas Falcon for while , then I had a unleaded car after that and forgot how toxic the pump was while filling

    • @andrewfindlay9099
      @andrewfindlay9099 15 днів тому +4

      Just imagine being stuck in the back of an ev when it self combusts

    • @aussie405
      @aussie405 15 днів тому +10

      @andrewfindlay9099 just imagine being stuck in the back of an ICE vehicle when it catches fire.

    • @christopherj2231
      @christopherj2231 15 днів тому

      @@andrewfindlay9099 You struggled at school didn't you Andy.

    • @MrBigbangbuzz
      @MrBigbangbuzz 15 днів тому +3

      I halve a telsa but much prefer my GOLF R .. a much nicer drive and far more convenient.

  • @fdjw88
    @fdjw88 15 днів тому +14

    I'm so happy and jealous for the Aussies, they are really spoiled, you guys have all the brands at your finger tips.

    • @ZweiZwolf
      @ZweiZwolf 14 днів тому +1

      And cheap, too, thanks to lower logistics and delivery cost from China!

    • @Bazilhatz3773
      @Bazilhatz3773 14 днів тому

      Not if the elites have anything to do with it, US is forcing the EU in placing big tariffs on Chinese imports and Australia is in America's sights, after all Australia is under US rule with most commodities being stolen by foreign US UK owned corporation's. Watch this space with Trump who is threatening everyone with sanctions just like the previous Biden administration who are all run by the CIA and owned by the ruling elite. Australia doesn't have sovereignty unfortunately.

  • @SeanRosewarne
    @SeanRosewarne 15 днів тому +35

    Awesome. Purchase price parity for EV is here!

  • @delta0307
    @delta0307 15 днів тому +25

    Here in the Philippine, atto 3 extended range (480km) is going on sale for 26,270 USD. It's too good of a deal and no other car can compete at this price range that offers what atto 3 has. So i got one for myself, really awesome deal 🎉

    • @MrBigbangbuzz
      @MrBigbangbuzz 15 днів тому

      The worst car I have ever driven , easily the worst EV I have ever been in .. terrible design , comfort.. did you test anything decent ?

    • @ysw8291
      @ysw8291 15 днів тому +2

      @@MrBigbangbuzz The worst car I have driven in my life was a Peugeot 205 GTI. Everything in the cabin was awkwardly positioned. But I got used to it after a while. I guess this is what some people refer to as characters.

    • @MrBigbangbuzz
      @MrBigbangbuzz 14 днів тому

      @@ysw8291yep I’ve heard , also avoid Renault
      Btw my fav EV is an ionic 5 .. what a car

    • @delta0307
      @delta0307 14 днів тому +1

      @@MrBigbangbuzz i have my complaints coming from toyota hondas nissan and mercedes, but overall it's not something that's unbearable. comfort for me now has a new meaning. Traffic is very bad in our capital where you can get stuck for 1 hr or more for a 7-12km drive. I have 2 kids now, and knowing I am saving a lot gives me more comfort 😂
      I know it's not the best EV out there and quite frankly would prefer tesla but that would mean I would need to shell out additional 11.8k USD for it so really this atto 3 for just daily drive is perfect

    • @MrBigbangbuzz
      @MrBigbangbuzz 14 днів тому +1

      @ drive safe , I can't argue EV and Hybrid are the future

  • @victorsvoice7978
    @victorsvoice7978 15 днів тому +57

    This is great news for those wishing to buy an affordable ev.
    China is going to change the automotive landscape in Australia.

    • @zes7215
      @zes7215 15 днів тому

      wr

    • @ZweiZwolf
      @ZweiZwolf 14 днів тому +1

      Not just Australia, but most of the world. China is selling a lot of NEVs in LatAm, Africa and Southeast Asia!

    • @TerryHickey-xt4mf
      @TerryHickey-xt4mf 14 днів тому

      @@zes7215 so thoughtful as usual.

  • @Anonymous------
    @Anonymous------ 15 днів тому +58

    Here's how it really works: Australia buys EVs from China. China buys agricultural products, natural resources, and ocean products from Australia. Australia gets foreign revenue from China and creates jobs for Australians while they save money on car fuel. Chinese have jobs making EVs and get to enjoy eating foods from Australia. Everyone wins. 😊

    • @FrankiePo89
      @FrankiePo89 15 днів тому +4

      Well said.

    • @trythis2821
      @trythis2821 15 днів тому

      In an ideal world, reality could be Chinese gov builds up its war machine. Hoping to take by force.

    • @bernardjameswilson
      @bernardjameswilson 15 днів тому

      Depends though. With the orange man being inaugurated in washington will australia follow his tarrifs? Because most of the time they just follow what the "leader of the free world" says.

    • @funnyguy5994
      @funnyguy5994 14 днів тому +2

      So that's a win win situation... Great!

    • @ZweiZwolf
      @ZweiZwolf 14 днів тому +3

      If Australians buy enough EVs from China, China will probably stand up final assembly of EV kits in the old Holden factory to bring the cost down.

  • @Discovery2024-rn8kn
    @Discovery2024-rn8kn 15 днів тому +16

    Consumer will win, win and keep on winning.

    • @cb250nighthawk3
      @cb250nighthawk3 15 днів тому +3

      And it's only the beginning. Next, they'll give you solar panels for free to charge the car. Unless you go for a long long drive, you won't even need to go to charging stations. 🎉

    • @jdmguy44
      @jdmguy44 15 днів тому +1

      I would love to know what planet you're inhabiting to think that buying a Chinese disposable POS EV means the consumer is winning 😂

    • @ZweiZwolf
      @ZweiZwolf 14 днів тому

      @@cb250nighthawk3 Not "free" but bundled into the purchase price, just like wall chargers and basic EVSE equipment.

    • @cb250nighthawk3
      @cb250nighthawk3 14 днів тому

      @ZweiZwolf
      As long as it says "free" then it's free. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @warheadsnation
      @warheadsnation 12 днів тому

      @@jdmguy44 The planet that has a chance in Hell of avoiding a Mass Extinction Event.

  • @ZweiZwolf
    @ZweiZwolf 14 днів тому +3

    The coming competition is really great for Oz. Expect to see EVs bundled with rooftop solar systems bundled and financed.

  • @DebnathBarman-rf6ir
    @DebnathBarman-rf6ir 15 днів тому +14

    On January 1, BYD announced December 2024 sales results on the Shenzhen Stock Exchange (SZSE). In December, the automaker sold 514,809 vehicles, up 51.0% year-over-year (y/y).2 days ago

    • @Anonymous------
      @Anonymous------ 15 днів тому

      BYD sold over 2 million cars in 2024, more than Tesla, breaking all time record.

    • @georgepelton5645
      @georgepelton5645 15 днів тому +2

      @@Anonymous------IIRC they sold about 4 million cars, over half PHEV, the rest BEV

    • @Anonymous------
      @Anonymous------ 15 днів тому +2

      @georgepelton5645
      You are correct! I don't know how I got that 2 million figure, maybe it's the number of repeat customers. 😄

  • @donsheehan5144
    @donsheehan5144 15 днів тому +22

    The giant wave is about to hit Australia.

    • @richardzedman1160
      @richardzedman1160 15 днів тому +5

      good maybee the big brands that have been over charging us here will cut there prices

    • @Fantabiscuit
      @Fantabiscuit 15 днів тому +3

      @@richardzedman1160probably go bankrupt it looks like

    • @TerryHickey-xt4mf
      @TerryHickey-xt4mf 14 днів тому

      already has.

  • @jay-em
    @jay-em 15 днів тому +10

    When these hit the second hand market in a few years, they will cost peanuts. It will be great for increasing ev adoption.

    • @peterw596
      @peterw596 15 днів тому +2

      More peanuts will draw the monkeys out of the ICE age

    • @ZweiZwolf
      @ZweiZwolf 14 днів тому

      EVs will last a long time, relatively little to go wrong and far less NVH, so the car's not shaking itself apart. The car replacement rate is going to slow down.

    • @MLF-kq8ut
      @MLF-kq8ut 14 днів тому +1

      @@ZweiZwolf Very true although some Australians who have the money have an appetite for a new car every few years. As EV tech, battery density, range and price improves, early adopters will upgrade and hopefully leave behind them a decent supply of well priced, dependable EVs for the second hand market. I have an EV for our first car but now need a second car so I just had to buy a clunky old ICE car as the second hand EV prices are still a little too steep for me to justify for a runabout. In a few years I'm hoping to be able to offload it for a nice, cheap little EV I can plug into my rooftop and hopefully act as a backup battery. The sooner these ICE cars get relegated the better - for our wallets and the environment.

  • @COLLAPSE.of.US.ECONOMY
    @COLLAPSE.of.US.ECONOMY 15 днів тому +12

    It is time to BYD ❤

  • @trevonbergman1053
    @trevonbergman1053 15 днів тому +12

    G’day Viking, An article on which EV’s currently have V2G in Auz would be interesting ?

  • @alskeiuthn
    @alskeiuthn 15 днів тому +34

    Great video, Sam. My daughter wants a new car and her mum and I are pushing the EV idea. As you mentioned, the resale value of ICE will soon be almost nothing. I have been driving an Atto 3 EV in Australia for two years and the savings are phenomenal. The Americans and Canadians (and I have Canadian relatives) are simply losing more and more money the longer EV's are withheld from them. Once the dam breaks, it will be mega savings for the regular person.

    • @zes7215
      @zes7215 15 днів тому

      wr

    • @MetalPhreakAU
      @MetalPhreakAU 15 днів тому +1

      54% of NEW cars sold in china are EV. Still 46% petrol and the number of cars in use on the roads will be a much lower % for EV. If you are that 46% and you buy now, by the time new EV sales are 75% your car will be a few years old. Buyers in that 2nd hand market won't necessarily be EV or nothing. It's just supply and demand. But EV adoption is climbing, and the desire for petrol cars on the second hand market will diminish thus resale values will drop proportionately more as EVs gain more share, but won't be worth nothing until you can't buy petrol ;) I think the doom and gloom on petrol cars is a bit overplayed. The smartest financial decision is to not buy anything more than you need to get around, but who does that. I don't. Now if I can get a brand new EV for $30k that 's superior to the second hand petrol car that *was* $50k, yeah it won't be worth $30k second hand just because you paid 50k.But it'll be worth $20-25k to someone who can't afford any higher (putting them further into financial disadvantage due to fuel cost). Likewise your $50k EV won't be worth 30K used when better new EVs are the same price. It's also why we have EV incentives, not so those who can afford a $60k car get a good deal to be eco friendly, but to seed affordability for all further down the line through increased competition and 2nd hand availability. (I bought a BYD Sealion 6 I'll keep for 3yrs on lease then sell knowing full well it'll lose value, until I find an EV i'm happy to keep for 10years)

    • @ZweiZwolf
      @ZweiZwolf 14 днів тому

      @@MetalPhreakAU "a few years"??? China is moving VERY fast to NEVs: 8 million in 2023, 11 million in 2024, expect 15 million in 2025, 20 million in 2026. China is at 52% today, up from 40% a year ago. China will hit 75% NEVs within 12-18 months. Within a few years, legacy ICE-only vehicles will be under 10% of Chinese car sales, obsoleted by PHEVs with 50+ km battery range.

    • @TerryHickey-xt4mf
      @TerryHickey-xt4mf 14 днів тому

      @@zes7215 give it a break!

  • @MrAdrianoandrade
    @MrAdrianoandrade 15 днів тому +21

    As soon as they bring the BYD Seagull at AUD$19,990… Sold!!😊

    • @dgupta42
      @dgupta42 15 днів тому +5

      BYD, MG, Geely can add authorised service shops in Australia and mass market models like a 19K AUD Seagull.

    • @richard7071
      @richard7071 15 днів тому +3

      @@MrAdrianoandrade yeah, that would be a game changer.

    • @protagonist9716
      @protagonist9716 15 днів тому +5

      It will happen, only a matter of time. Imagine wuling houanwang four door mini probably rebadged as MG for the global markets. It costs $6800usd and undercuts seagull

    • @nevininni2709
      @nevininni2709 15 днів тому +2

      Don't worry, a used BYD Dolphin will be priced at around $15,000 in a years time and it will keep dropping from there on until its carted off to the scrap heap in a few years time with little to no value.

    • @dgupta42
      @dgupta42 15 днів тому

      @@nevininni2709 If nothing else, the battery minerals will still be valuable.

  • @JT-jy2sy
    @JT-jy2sy 14 днів тому +2

    It depends what you need. If you need a 4x4 for towing and off-road. There is no ev option available.

    • @ibsn87
      @ibsn87 9 днів тому

      On my 70km drive to work. I pass about 0.1% of vehicles that are towing - so of course that market will be secondary…. FWIW I tow a 1.6T boat with my model Y. Shits all over my patrol for towing. If Long distance towing is your bread and butter you now have the BYD shark to order. Petrol with a 30kw battery at 57k with more features then any Ute on the market and quicker then a ranger raptor, (currently 2.5T capacity… 3.5tonne version coming next).

    • @pwhnckexstflajizdryvombqug9042
      @pwhnckexstflajizdryvombqug9042 2 дні тому

      Yes many country or long distance trips won't be do-able with EVs for a while, however 80% of Australians live in the city and drive almost exclusively in the city. If EVs take over in the city, it won't be long before the long-distance, offroading and boat-hauling EVs will hit the market too.

  • @daviddunmore8415
    @daviddunmore8415 15 днів тому +8

    Can we have this price war in the UK as well?

  • @trythis2821
    @trythis2821 15 днів тому +3

    Would be great if BYD have the longer-range Dolphin Australian version with cut down model as well. Better yet bring the Seagull.

  • @bargeonline
    @bargeonline 12 днів тому +1

    Got an MG4 in October and it’s already saved about $800 of fuel

    • @flash3047
      @flash3047 4 дні тому

      Champ 🏆 the cost of fuel savings already makes ownership of an EV simple. If you can get solar and battery and forgo grid power. The amount of money you will save in your life will be immense

    • @bargeonline
      @bargeonline 4 дні тому

      @@flash3047 don't even need that, AGL is 8c over night and some of the providers give free power during the day

  • @marcbergeron-gx8bx
    @marcbergeron-gx8bx 15 днів тому +12

    Canada would need BYD!...

    • @b.w.1386
      @b.w.1386 14 днів тому

      the EV selection here S.U.C.K.S. anything nice is $60k+

    • @TerryHickey-xt4mf
      @TerryHickey-xt4mf 14 днів тому

      ask Trump first.

    • @tackle9ax327
      @tackle9ax327 14 днів тому

      Canada soon will become 51st state of US, it will be dream to get Chinese EV😂😂😂

    • @b.w.1386
      @b.w.1386 13 днів тому

      @@tackle9ax327 you mean the Trump Tariff Tax will make them MORE affordable?

    • @vicentevaldez1696
      @vicentevaldez1696 11 днів тому

      Yes...

  • @stanleyww
    @stanleyww 15 днів тому +16

    China should just flood the zone with everything EV in Australia. .The legacy OEM.s have been taking the piss out of us for years . Gov closed down our industry so no tariffs could ever be charged. The range anxiety noise is dying down .Just sit back and enjoy what comes to town over next 1/3 years. EV motors are really simple engineering . German engineering not required. Can't wait for full automation . Transport as a service will not only make things vastly cheaper but a whole lot safer . Road Tolls will become negligible . Insurance costs will be pittance

    • @stopdropnroll
      @stopdropnroll 15 днів тому

      Nailed it in general, but what about China’s demographic collapse inside 10 years, spare parts? Ongoing supply chains? What about your audio and video being accessed by a communist country under the guise of ‘customer support’ ?

    • @TerryHickey-xt4mf
      @TerryHickey-xt4mf 14 днів тому

      A bit hopeful with some comments about road tolls, but I agree, China is already getting a good foot hold and it is not surprising. US and Euro manufacturers have been ripping us off for decades, time for them to get real, or just fade away. My bet is that China will be our main source of vehicles in the future, and they are quite happy to eat our food, (NZ ) included, so a win win.

  • @jamesdonaghy9143
    @jamesdonaghy9143 15 днів тому +3

    If you've got a driveway, you plug in when you get home, the car starts charging when the juice is cheap, and in the morning you're good to go. Never having to visit a fuel pump or a charge point away from home is very freeing. V2L on top of this gives your car another level for static functionality. EVs are the way forward.

  • @soup-nazi6824
    @soup-nazi6824 15 днів тому +3

    Price wars are great in Australia-we don't have local car manufacturing so why would it be negative...😅

  • @sinoevc
    @sinoevc 14 днів тому

    To be honest, this is so cool

  • @hillwalker8741
    @hillwalker8741 15 днів тому +19

    omg - the worldwide ICE industry is dead

    • @dea01ify
      @dea01ify 15 днів тому +1

      Ya think so. Really? 😂

    • @jdmguy44
      @jdmguy44 15 днів тому +1

      Really? 😂

    • @johnnyrarere
      @johnnyrarere 14 днів тому

      Definitely

    • @TerryHickey-xt4mf
      @TerryHickey-xt4mf 14 днів тому

      it will be within the next 5 years unless they all get their sht together, but they will not. I have just watched a recent VW car manufacturing video, and there were all these people, and they were just wondering around? getting paid very well, and yet not taking part in the exciting developmental future of the world. Tesla can make vehicles 3 times quicker than VW, and they are not even Chinese. This does remind me of when I was just a kid in the UK watching the car industry being destroyed by the unions. I am now in my 70's but those headlines are still vivid in my mind. History may be repeating it seems, and VW, their employees, and other manufacturers should take urgent note.

    • @macmcleod1188
      @macmcleod1188 9 днів тому

      Not quite yet. But I expect that we'll be seeing 30% of all vehicles sold by 2026.
      However, I could be underestimating the pent-up demand at the low end. Gasoline cars have been way too expensive for way too long

  • @MRTY323
    @MRTY323 15 днів тому +14

    I'm so envious.
    Here in Taiwan all Chinese cars are banned...

    • @ruffylee1082
      @ruffylee1082 15 днів тому +13

      Taiwan and US are missing the opportunity of buying cheap evs

    • @saleh45251
      @saleh45251 15 днів тому

      there is a bigger chance Taiwan gets a chinese missile than a chinese BYD 😬

    • @malcolmrickarby2313
      @malcolmrickarby2313 15 днів тому

      Are there any benefits from being friends with the USA?😮

    • @cb250nighthawk3
      @cb250nighthawk3 15 днів тому +10

      Taiwan doesn't apply free trade, in other words. What a lapdog. 🎉

    • @sunchizoo7457
      @sunchizoo7457 15 днів тому +4

      최근에 대만 여행 갔었는데 MG, Luxgen 이런차를 볼수 있었는데 이것들은 중국산 아닌가요?

  • @gavjlewis
    @gavjlewis 15 днів тому +3

    We already have this version in the UK badged as the "Active". But here in the UK it's priced at the equivalent of $52,000 Australian.
    They don't seem to be trying to dominate the market here.

    • @silverscuderia
      @silverscuderia 14 днів тому

      They are heavily tariffed by UK Gov on basis of the Chinese government threatening its neighbours. The Oz government turns a blind eye

    • @pwhnckexstflajizdryvombqug9042
      @pwhnckexstflajizdryvombqug9042 2 дні тому

      That's because of the tarrifs isn't it?

    • @gavjlewis
      @gavjlewis 2 дні тому

      @pwhnckexstflajizdryvombqug9042 We do have a 10% tariff on imported cars here in the UK. But that doesn't make up the massive difference. Obviously we have higher shipping costs too.
      Australia is an obvious place to start as it's a smaller market and has less compensation. There is probably less resistance to them doing this in Australia than here too.

  • @richardzedman1160
    @richardzedman1160 15 днів тому +8

    good thats what we need cheap affordable cars As we dont make cars here anymore theres no need to slap tarriffs on them like they do over seas to protec the motor industry And the other importers have had it too good for so long with all of them charging same price for cars and over charging People need afforable cars

  • @mycruiseviews
    @mycruiseviews 15 днів тому +2

    Lithium prices have tanked, down 70%, hence the drop in EV prices.

    • @ZweiZwolf
      @ZweiZwolf 14 днів тому

      Sodium is a less expensive battery chemistry that is growing fast.

  • @macmcleod1188
    @macmcleod1188 9 днів тому

    Only the heated seats would have been of interest of the features they dropped.

  • @fwmack1
    @fwmack1 14 днів тому +1

    Never underestimate BYD but of course they nearly always do Great value

  • @bryn494
    @bryn494 15 днів тому +5

    It'll be OK, the big manufacturers can afford lobbyists...

    • @pwhnckexstflajizdryvombqug9042
      @pwhnckexstflajizdryvombqug9042 2 дні тому

      The issue is, no one manufactures cars in Australia, so they can't make the argument that it's "hurting local manufacturing" so there is no justification for introducing import tariffs. If Australia did put tarrifs on BYD, China would probably respond by putting tarrifs on Australia iron exports.

  • @robertimrie3710
    @robertimrie3710 15 днів тому +15

    People obsessed with range, half the population isn't like you. Over 300km of range is heaps for Aussie city dwellers that like the odd trip to the coast on the weekend. Its all they need and want. Our cities are only a hour from beaches, weather is warm and traffic is heavy. Any more range is wasted money. extra weight and is less sustainable. This car is an excellent deal and better value than Toyota's tired offerings.

    • @zes7215
      @zes7215 15 днів тому

      wr

    • @ZweiZwolf
      @ZweiZwolf 14 днів тому

      Plug-in Hybrid EVs work, too. 50-100 km battery range for errands, then switch to gas for the rare long drive.

  • @Rene-uz3eb
    @Rene-uz3eb 14 днів тому

    Yes please bring them to the us as well. But skip the below 300 mile models

  • @alexco5881
    @alexco5881 13 днів тому

    I'm seeing a pre-reg GWM Ora 100km on the clock advertised at $24990 (NZD) - It isn't a great car, but it's a new EV under US$14000.

  • @avdp9095
    @avdp9095 8 днів тому

    Subsidized by the CCp to sell at production costs....

  • @stylianospapadakis8850
    @stylianospapadakis8850 14 днів тому +1

    This is the price of it in Greece already!

    • @MLF-kq8ut
      @MLF-kq8ut 14 днів тому

      I can imagine all these little Chinese EVs doing a good job replacing all those Kia Picanto rental cars running about Mykonos and Santorini. Pair it with an array of solar panels for homegrown power and to give goats a little midday shade and you're onto a winner.

  • @andypin9794
    @andypin9794 15 днів тому +2

    What a shame those of us in the U.K. have to pay nearly double the price. Hardly an incentive to pay. But that's UK taxes for you.

  • @stupest
    @stupest 12 днів тому

    There are still so many new petrol station popping up in the perth northern suburbs. I believe that many people are so resistant to the idea of owning an electric car or is it fear?

  • @JoeGalasso-s9k
    @JoeGalasso-s9k 9 днів тому +1

    BYD needs to build a copy of the Ford Everest.
    The Ford Everest is a great car but overpriced.
    Sexy and a great car, but way too expensive
    If they base it on the shark, it would smash it

  • @Alex-l6d1f
    @Alex-l6d1f 11 днів тому

    Dolphin is Yaris sized I’d say
    Seagull is Fiat 500 size

  • @vicentevaldez1696
    @vicentevaldez1696 11 днів тому

    Buffet playbook of China ...
    Cut throat competition😮

  • @MetalPhreakAU
    @MetalPhreakAU 15 днів тому +2

    I don't always agree with him on a lot of things, but he's got this one spot on. Outside niche things like sports cars or things designed to do long distances, EV or some kind of electrification is the future. You'd be mad not to consider an EV if it works with your lifestyle now. It will take time but sooner than you think for the infrastructure to grow. V2X, ever increasing solar installations creating a surplus of energy during the day, etc. I am lucky to have charging facilities at work and a garage at home to charge, and bought a BYD Sealion 6 PHEV. It's got the petrol range, and the EV performance, and during the week I run it pure EV. They aren't built poorly either, on the contrary the fit and finish on the BYD is better than any previous car from western brands. The only disappointing thing is the lack of PHEV choice here. It's a fantastic way to get people to experience EV benefits without the "range anxiety" (valid or not). Yes, if your daily commute is far higher than the lesser EV range on a PHEV, you should just get a regular hybrid. But i bet a vast majority of Australia does

  • @JSM-bb80u
    @JSM-bb80u 14 днів тому +1

    Who needs heated seats in Australia?😂

  • @sbjchef
    @sbjchef 15 днів тому +3

    in the UK if China can undercut the Dacia Sandero petrol with an equivalent trim but better safety they will destroy the UK market

  • @saddle1940
    @saddle1940 15 днів тому +2

    $25k drive away is the break point price. If it's just the battery cost, if you hit this price, even just 150km range won't matter, especially if you provide an upgrade path for adding range later. Imagine, you buy the car for around town for $22k and in a year or two you spend another $5k of money not spent on fuel to add another 100km range. Make them upgradeable, sell absolutely no-frills base models first with a catalogue of things can be bought for it later.

    • @Kennynbay
      @Kennynbay 14 днів тому +1

      I think that's the long term plan. My friend who owns an Atto 3 says that we should just treat EVs like computer. Their firmwares, hardwares, softwares can be upgraded or replaced, just like computers.

    • @ZweiZwolf
      @ZweiZwolf 14 днів тому

      If you are fine with 150 km range, you won't need to upgrade. You'll put that $5k into rooftop solar and batteries, and drive for free.

  • @north-sea750
    @north-sea750 15 днів тому +1

    Will these cars be coming to the UK since they are not in the EU?

  • @izham75
    @izham75 15 днів тому +2

    Untill now nothing beats the value of byd dolphin and atto 3. You name them, mg4? Geely galaxy e5? Cherry omoda e5?....no way

  • @zatomb2574
    @zatomb2574 15 днів тому +1

    If you're wondering why countries like Japan and US have had Hybrids and EVs for decades but are slow to adopt pure EVs, the common voltage is 100/120VAC at home so type 1 charging. A stepping stone to PHEV seems more realistic until the charging infrastructure develops. I think usdot guideline is that Type 1 is 3 miles per hr of charging. Type 2 220vac is much better.

    • @ZweiZwolf
      @ZweiZwolf 14 днів тому +1

      In the US, in-home charging is 120VAC, but most homes have 240V for electric dryers, water heaters, ovens, and stoves.

  • @contra_plano
    @contra_plano 15 днів тому

    My old Zoe has 89cv, and i use it in ECO mode...

  • @jedics1
    @jedics1 15 днів тому +1

    30 grand is still a lot of money, I think prices can fall a lot further for a basic reliable car without all the extras that you forget about a few months after owning it. I think a dolphin equivilant will be 20 grand in under 5 years.

  • @billmago7991
    @billmago7991 13 днів тому

    re: the report released about Australias fuel reserves in light of geopolitical tensions .

  • @HarryWhither
    @HarryWhither 15 днів тому

    Hoping they will start something similar in the UK. We are right hand drive too and out sides of the EU 17.5% EV tariffs but we still pay top dollar. The AUD40k is approx GBP20k for the Atto3. However list price (dependent on model) in the UK is approx GBP35k. No wonder importers have always referred to the UK as the golden isle. About time it changed…

  • @tonyp2601
    @tonyp2601 15 днів тому +6

    In the Philippines, this sells for 1,398,000 pesos (US$24,000).

    • @Anonymous------
      @Anonymous------ 15 днів тому

      Part of the money taken by corrupted government officials. 😢

  • @thyristo
    @thyristo 15 днів тому +1

    ATTO 2 incoming!

  • @dy-no-mitedragon7759
    @dy-no-mitedragon7759 15 днів тому +1

    You're so lucky to have those options. We and the United States suck.

  • @adamanthony7465
    @adamanthony7465 15 днів тому

    We are seeing now in Zimbabwe cuts to environmental care during extraction of minerals, will higher price wars have effect on our responsibilities towards the nature we are trying to secure with this drive to electric?

  • @lithosh007
    @lithosh007 15 днів тому +1

    When these are coming to Canada 🇨🇦

    • @kevinlin4895
      @kevinlin4895 15 днів тому +2

      Never, because Canada is following the US in its anti-China paranoia.. that and the fact that geography sucks. Canada is trapped by the US geographically. Unlike Mexico which has a way out through the south to Latam markets.

  • @nathansmith6914
    @nathansmith6914 15 днів тому +3

    If we don't care about resale values of EV's then why should we care about resale values of ICE's?

    • @altbinhax
      @altbinhax 15 днів тому +1

      I guess you'd be doing well to get fifty percent return after four years with an ICE on trade in. Road side sales via Carsales, good luck.

    • @robsengahay5614
      @robsengahay5614 15 днів тому +2

      Obvious contradiction there. Whilst I have been an EV driver since 2019 and definitely never going back I find the hyperbole on this channel grating. There really isn’t any reason to believe that ICE cars will depreciate heavily in the next decade.

  • @henvan8737
    @henvan8737 15 днів тому +1

    Sam, where do you get the BYD prices come from. The Australian BYD web site is not showing any of your quoted prices.

    • @markuc
      @markuc 15 днів тому

      All over the news...

  • @geraldshepherd5286
    @geraldshepherd5286 15 днів тому +2

    Why the interest in quoting US dollar prices .

    • @lkrnpk
      @lkrnpk 15 днів тому +4

      because most people in the world have no clue how much Australian dollar is really worth, USD is a good comparison tool... same with Chinese yuan

    • @ysw8291
      @ysw8291 15 днів тому

      @@lkrnpk Chinese in China love quoting US dollar.

    • @lkrnpk
      @lkrnpk 15 днів тому

      @@ysw8291 I was thinking about why Sam also gives USD value for cars sold only in China

  • @RedWazzies
    @RedWazzies 9 днів тому

    SUV and 4wd will hold value until EV catches up with that market. The seal is terrible off road.

  • @IA100KPDT
    @IA100KPDT 15 днів тому

    Atto 3 base model is selling cheap in Singapore. At USD 125K, it is a steal.🤣

    • @Kennynbay
      @Kennynbay 14 днів тому

      Fucking hell Singapore... 😂

    • @ZweiZwolf
      @ZweiZwolf 14 днів тому

      How much are the SG taxes, again? :D :D

    • @ysc1692
      @ysc1692 14 днів тому

      You mean “Cheap”

  • @kevinmacintyre4003
    @kevinmacintyre4003 15 днів тому

    Immediate resale value will collapse but this price war is temporary. Once many companies disappear the market will stabilize.

    • @liuyangyang
      @liuyangyang 15 днів тому

      that is what's happening in China now. BYD will survive, Huawei will survive. Others, unsure.

  • @DJ2024-t4j
    @DJ2024-t4j 15 днів тому +1

    Toyota knows whats happening. Their number 1 car in Australia is no longer the Hilux but the HYBRID Rav4, GAC is 50:50 China/Toyota so look for more of this tech entering cars made in Japan.

  • @AllanWood-e4i
    @AllanWood-e4i 15 днів тому +1

    68 new models sounds great,how long will they be around for,continue to bag Toyota whose sales are still increasing outside China

  • @jiajunhe5744
    @jiajunhe5744 13 днів тому

    under 20k drive away and charge with solar means cost nothing.

  • @RussellCox
    @RussellCox 10 днів тому

    Ripped off! The ATTO 3 Extended may have dropped in list price from $47,499 to $44,990 for the Premium, but the bonus $3,000 incentive and free charger have been removed. The drive-away price (NSW private rego) was $47,078 for the Extended, and the Premium is now $47,584. It's more expensive and doesn't have the home charger! How has nobody reported on this? I happened to screenshot the price 4 days ago, and just saw the new pricing today.

  • @kerryf9399
    @kerryf9399 13 днів тому

    Cars from China priced in USD, which is double our AUD where else but OZ?

  • @lostwanderingdrifter
    @lostwanderingdrifter 15 днів тому +1

    Ahh... Basically Dolphin at Philippine spec but actually at a competitive price?

  • @richard7071
    @richard7071 15 днів тому +5

    A suggestion, for highway driving, overall range is meaningless. What would be useful is a measure that answers the question: can you drive for 2 hours at 110km/h with less than 70% of the battery? i.e., from 80 to 10%.
    Around town, range is also meaningless.

  • @roborobo02
    @roborobo02 14 днів тому

    Ummm... All good or not. I just looked on the MG site and there is a MG3 Car for $AU25600 and MG4 is $AU35000+-. The MG$ EV is 38% more costly than the MG3 ICE car. Just saying. I can see that pricing is starting to get more realistic over time and isn't $59000 for the MG4. I heard that sales of EVs (car) were less numbers sold in 2024(In AUS) than the previous year. This could be why they are dropping prices. Just trying to maintain some volume in the market. Demand needs to be high to cause pricing to fall over time. But this time prices seem to fall because volume is down.

    • @hargeaux
      @hargeaux 14 днів тому

      MG4 is a bigger, nicer and faster car than the MG3...

  • @slowercuber7767
    @slowercuber7767 15 днів тому +3

    I’ve said I’d not buy a Chinese car, nor anything other than a Tesla… I’ve discovered I could be “bought” by a cheap enough price… now I don’t know if I want these to come to America or not.

    • @FrankiePo89
      @FrankiePo89 15 днів тому +2

      Tesla made in uaassss are not as good in quality as those MadeinChina, just so you know. The quality difference is already out in the open.

    • @robsengahay5614
      @robsengahay5614 15 днів тому +2

      Don’t worry. The US is slapping 100% tariffs on them so if they did come they would be double the price we would pay here in Australia.

  • @johnnguyen1692
    @johnnguyen1692 15 днів тому

    but that's there is tariff in north america and europe, no hope of price war on ev

  • @uber_l
    @uber_l 14 днів тому

    Those EU/US tariffs...

  • @AllanWood-e4i
    @AllanWood-e4i 8 днів тому

    If you are in the market for a new Chinese ev be wary as many want be here for the long term

  • @sargfowler9603
    @sargfowler9603 15 днів тому +2

    Looks great from most angles, but the front is like a 90s car

    • @sr76pablux
      @sr76pablux 15 днів тому

      Like the new toyota prado

    • @Driver6M
      @Driver6M 15 днів тому +1

      I agree but there is an updated dolphin coming soon with changed styling. It looks much better.

  • @surfer123au
    @surfer123au 15 днів тому

    I wait!!! Resale value matters. New cars and technology every year and month. Most people cannot afford to buy cars like mobile phones. Buy new every 3 years and dispose or hand down to kids.
    Also insurance for a brwnd new EV will be at least 2* more than my current car. There goes the yearly petrol saving.
    To be fair, once V2x is available and affordable I am all in 😉
    Once the battery tech and technology curve stabilises so will prices.

    • @IanRussell1969
      @IanRussell1969 15 днів тому

      I guess you never buy a new computer or car ever with that attitude. They keep changing as new trends emerge.
      The BYD Dolphin already has V2L - you even get the connecter for free with the car.
      I'm planning on keeping my Dolphin for about 10 years like all my previous cars - so resale value doesn't concern me in the lease.
      after 10 years the battery should still be fairly good if current trends continue, and the electric motors won't be near their limits either.
      The insurance on my Dolphin was less than for my previous Prius.

    • @surfer123au
      @surfer123au 15 днів тому

      @IanRussell1969 I buy a new phone and PC about every 3 years. Old one goes to the kids or gets donated. That way I stay reasonably up to date.
      My point is that we are in the early days of a new technology cycle and prices, standards, hardware and software constantly change.
      Sure, if you are happy with the current status you can buy in for the next 10 years. But next year you could buy in at a lower price with a better technology/ car. This effect will reduce over time once the new technology becomes more mature and established. That is when I will buy. Probably in 1 to 3 years. Very keen/ curious on V2x..

    • @adardeslol7513
      @adardeslol7513 13 днів тому +1

      Nah it doesn’t matter. Just get one after 2-3 years at $5000 which means you have a disposable car at a very reasonable price comparable to a motorcycle 🎉 and after driving for other 3-4 years you can still sell at $2000 😊 or you could keep it and drive another couple of years until it’s gone

  • @simontideswell1728
    @simontideswell1728 15 днів тому +1

    Does this model have regenerative braking?

    • @bobsmith3983
      @bobsmith3983 15 днів тому +2

      They all do. It just simple electronics and software.

    • @robsengahay5614
      @robsengahay5614 15 днів тому

      All EVs have regenerative braking. If you are talking about one pedal driving then BYD don’t offer that, sadly.

  • @riderknight5805
    @riderknight5805 10 днів тому

    Still to expensive

  • @lauriahonen2892
    @lauriahonen2892 15 днів тому +2

    Eu nothing under 20k€

    • @FrankiePo89
      @FrankiePo89 15 днів тому

      Ursulavondeleyen want "cheap" uaassss gas.

  • @christopherj2231
    @christopherj2231 15 днів тому +2

    1st.
    Thank you.

  • @richard7071
    @richard7071 15 днів тому +8

    Can they not put “Build your dreams” on the back and take another $5 off the price?

    • @YWang-vl2zh
      @YWang-vl2zh 15 днів тому +6

      If they change it to “Bring Your Dolphin,” I’m willing to pay $5 extra

    • @bobdeng1886
      @bobdeng1886 15 днів тому +3

      Use your hair drier to remove it

    • @alskeiuthn
      @alskeiuthn 15 днів тому +3

      I got rid of mine with fishing line. Worked really well.

    • @KurniadiPrathomo-sp5zd
      @KurniadiPrathomo-sp5zd 15 днів тому

      LOL

    • @IanRussell1969
      @IanRussell1969 15 днів тому

      @@alskeiuthn That works with the Atto3, not with the Dolphin as it's embedded in the light bar across the entire back.
      I suspect someday you will be able to by customizable covers/replacement bar from AliExpress.

  • @PWN-E
    @PWN-E 15 днів тому

    Hold up. The Dolphin is a full foot shorter than the Corolla. It's the same size as the Yaris. The Dolphin is 18k USD. The Yaris is 16k USD. Your point is certainly well taken, just comparing apples to apples.

  • @sarahkhan2310
    @sarahkhan2310 15 днів тому +1

    Build Your Dream ❤

  • @powerrising4933
    @powerrising4933 15 днів тому +1

    我有一辆hybrid crv,所谓的二手价就是个笑话。除非你买得起五十万以上的豪车,否则别提保不保值。

  • @simonpannett8810
    @simonpannett8810 15 днів тому

    Get new cars on 3 year finance to protect resale values??

    • @richard7071
      @richard7071 15 днів тому +1

      @@simonpannett8810 that’s what I did. In Australia a novated lease (for an EV) is FBT free. But … you need to buy insurance to get a guaranteed buy back price, otherwise you could be stuck with paying out the difference between the residual value of the lease and the actual value of the car.

  • @Mr-Kind-au
    @Mr-Kind-au 15 днів тому +5

    Electric vehicles are simply not practical for people who live in unit and apartment complexes. For this reason alone I do not believe that they are the future. They're a toy for kids with rich parents.

    • @malcolmrickarby2313
      @malcolmrickarby2313 15 днів тому +2

      They may never need to own a vehicle with the cheap robo taxis coming soon.😊

    • @Mr-Kind-au
      @Mr-Kind-au 15 днів тому

      @@malcolmrickarby2313 Like Johnny Cab?

    • @jasonjeroo8146
      @jasonjeroo8146 15 днів тому +4

      Why? All new unit blocks build in last 3 years have EV charging stations built in.

    • @Mr-Kind-au
      @Mr-Kind-au 15 днів тому

      @@jasonjeroo8146 But many unit complexes are built in the 1970s and 80s. Mine was.

    • @jasonjeroo8146
      @jasonjeroo8146 15 днів тому +3

      @@Mr-Kind-au Sure but that's no reason to say EVs don't have a future or that they are toys. More anymore homes are getting solar power due to electricity price increase so more people will be able to charge at home.

  • @stuartwallis9049
    @stuartwallis9049 14 днів тому +1

    How will you explain to ev owners in 12 to 18 months time when they are having to continually line up to charge there cars due to the number of new charging sites not keeping up with the large number of ev sales. It will be a nightmare and owners will start dumping them, as they are already doing.

    • @MLF-kq8ut
      @MLF-kq8ut 14 днів тому +1

      For the most part the new EV owners will do the majority of their charging at home. I've had an EV for about 4 years now and have been surprised that even though the rate of new charging infrastructure hasn't kept up with new EV sales, the charging sites - especially those installed at petrol stations (Ampol and BP) are pretty reliably free most of the time.

    • @hargeaux
      @hargeaux 14 днів тому

      You've never driven an EV, have you?
      You realize "EV owners" don't need to charge at charging sites. Only on road trips. How often do you road trip?

  • @PeterPanQuails
    @PeterPanQuails 14 днів тому

    Toyota mindset is the worst among the legacy car manufacturers. I have zero sympathy to see it goes down.

  • @timfudy3147
    @timfudy3147 14 днів тому

    They are arrogant, Ford and Holden Australia were arrogant, never valued customers and Toyota rest on there laurels, overpriced and underdone. Good riddance.

  • @MarsOzzie
    @MarsOzzie 15 днів тому

    Pretty sad they removed functions. Maybe the sunroof they should remove. Sad sad

    • @richard7071
      @richard7071 15 днів тому +3

      @@MarsOzzie you can still buy the more equipped models.

  • @bj97301
    @bj97301 15 днів тому +2

    Don’t forget the blood on byd’s hands with the condition their employees are in. Price wars aren’t all good.

  • @sr76pablux
    @sr76pablux 15 днів тому +2

    I dont buy new cars

    • @robsengahay5614
      @robsengahay5614 15 днів тому +1

      Used car bargains in the future for you then.

  • @GlowingTube
    @GlowingTube 15 днів тому +3

    The big emerging issue with Chinese brands is spare parts availability not only when new but when the car is 5 years old or older. I see owners junking perfectly good cars.

    • @robsengahay5614
      @robsengahay5614 15 днів тому +3

      This was initially an issue with Tesla but now seemingly better. Having said that my 6 year old Tesla hasn’t yet had any parts replaced except tyres and cabin air filters though I am replacing the wiper blades this month for the first time. One of the key benefits of EV ownership.

    • @georgekem
      @georgekem 15 днів тому

      @@robsengahay5614 read my comment above....almost 9 years of owning a corolla, only lost about $3000 in value, and i know i can keep it another 9 years...

  • @sj20860
    @sj20860 15 днів тому +1

    Hi Sam. I watch your videos for years now and always appreciated both the content, your entrepreneurial spirit going full time into youtube, and your talent as a creator. I just started a channel on my life in the Philippines which won't be professional like yours. I was curious if you could point me to places where you get "B Roll" community commons or free to use pictures/videos etc. I am very nervous to get a strike by just trying to figure it out myself.