BREAK IN OR BUST?! Allis Chalmers 210 Engine Overhaul
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- Опубліковано 18 бер 2023
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All of the work of rebuilding the engine of the Allis Chalmers 210 tractor is finally complete... but how long will this engine last?!
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Your series of videos is better than any drama available on TV 📺 or movie 🎬 !
I have been sitting on edge this whole time.
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I think your wife was doing a little putting on(acting like she might be upset) over the amount of money you have spent on this tractor!!!
I’ll bet she knows better than you how much you’ve spent on it(she was probably counting the dollar signs in her head the whole time)!!!
I’m not saying you won’t have to give her that trip to Hawaii, but she might let you tag along!!!
I have that exact same snap-on torque wrench. Love it
Loved watching Dad move further away from Mom as the prices went up. Also wise to take Mama to HI😂
Sounds like Mom's going to HI - whether or not Farmer Jim goes along...
i live in Hawaii? Where would I take my wife? :)
Yeah, better practice saying "Aloha!"
Nice work. Thanks for sharing.
@@richardspees841 Switzerland
He was making running space 😂😂😂
Sounds a lot better under load than before. Hope she serves you well for many years.
Still a lot cheaper than a new one.
(The tractor, by the way, not the wife!)😁
LOL
Yeh you're right a replacement wife is a VERY expensive swap!
I think the end of the video make it all complete !!!
Like that comment funny. ? The tractor not the wife?
@@JAMSIONLINE This is an excellent video 📹 hi 👋 from 🇨🇦 father and son Team is amazing respect back to the both of you 💙 ❤ 😊😊😊
That confession to his Mrs. went a lot better then I would have guessed. No shouting. No "sleeping with the dog for the month". No threats on his man hood. You, Sir, are a very, very lucky man to have such an understanding wife. She is the type of women most men would search their whole life for. Happy early Anniversary to the loving couple. xXx
He was wise to keep the camera rolling…😂
A lot of you recommended we contact Area Diesel Service for help with the pump! Unfortunately, we had already sent it to another shop, but they did give us some advice and make a video speculating on what could’ve gone wrong with our pump!
Be sure to check it out: ua-cam.com/video/o81RCxEfIEg/v-deo.html
HOW MENEY ACRES DO YOU FARM JIM . SUPRRISED THAT YOU BUILD ENGINES AS WELL DO FARMING .
you might want to pin this comment to the top.
Also where did you get the gauges you used?
The world is missing men like Jim everyday....keep up the old skool stuff!!!
Yeah the future generations look bleak
Thanks Jim, Yes I think you have found the problem, injector pump too far ahead with too much fuel can kill a motor, especially one that works full load for many hours like a tractor engine. Thanks guys for posting your experiences. Ted from down under.
That engine is in better condition now than it was when it left the Allis Chalmers factory. Another excellent job, well done!
End is so awesome and wholesome! Good laughs right there, good to see her up and running like a charm to! Thanks for taking us along your little adventure here boys
I’m not a Diesel guy, and definitely not a Tractor guy, but I’m really, really excited to see this. I think we can all appreciate the attention to detail and the feeling of victory after a difficult project. Well done!
Awe! That last bit! She's a keeper! I liked how he kept backing up 😂
You guys and CEE Australia are my absolute favorite content, thanks for all the hard work! Wish my dad was as cool as yours, you’re a lucky man. When can I buy a Jamsi T-shirt?
It's personal now. He doesn't let things that he has gotten good at over the years beat him. That's the guy that you want to learn from
The initial cost was not much, but the final cost is still far below what a new tractor would cost. All in all that 210 should be a good field worker for you. Having been in the auto repair business for 45 years I knew what you were doing and it was more than just one thing that you were fighting. You were able to diagnose what it was and it seems that you now have a good reliable A C 210 to work for you for a long time. My family are international people and my cousin would take the winter to go and find one to restore for the following year to work for him.
It is so good to see that there are still families like this in America
There's many, they're just not the ones you're generally going to see on TV or online.
First of all, I love your videos and channel, because it’s so educational and about the mechanic work, processes etc, and you haven’t gotten carried away thinking that it’s you individually we are interested in. 2. I’d love to learn more about “pulling” and how you ultimately decide how “hard” to pull, where to run the tractor etc, and the economics of where you run the tractor. 3. BUT the ending with MOM was priceless!!!!!!!!!! I’m going to be laughing and smiling all day because of that!!!!!!
Really enjoyed seeing this come to life again. Thanks for taking us along for the ride 😇
Watching from the Netherlands, great work. Big fan since day 1. You are amazing showing mistakes and failures, and that makes you a thrustworthy and amazing workshop. Keeping up the good work!
That engine makes some real pretty sounds. Less than $20k for a work horse like that is money well spent.
Family is the best!! You've got a great one!!
I guess I’m old schooled but I have never heard of belt timing. 40 plus years as a heavy equipment mechanic. I’m retired now but I’m going to look that one up. Sometimes s*** happens. Seen motor do the same and never found out why. Had one that the inside of the coolant hose would collapse and restrict flow even though it was a new hose. Good Luck
Belt timing is just a joke. The rest is serious.
Uh oh! Oh dear ... when Mama is in the shop, Dad has some explaining to do! The SELL though is classic! " ... tires are good" Best part of the whole video :) Lol, relatable good stuff
I’m happy to see you guys got it running again and took some extra care and precautions this time. Hope it gives you many years of good use.
Do it right, do it once.
Mom was in good spirits hearing the "investment" Dad made with the tractor. Somehow I think Mom might be going on a shopping trip soon. lol.
Excellent that you guys contacted Area Diesel Service! Those guys are the real deal.
I think that turned up pump, was your doom. When I spend more then I should, I always tell myself that it is a learning charge. Sent the bill to the training department. 😊
Congratulations fella's glad to see it running the way it should I'm happy that it worked out for your dad.
I am just glad you got it lined out it looks like. Should make a nice tractor for years to come.
It's good to see the tractor running smooth and in limits. Also good to see the maintenance goes beyond machines and includes your relationship. 😉
Great to see it out in the field pulling and sounding great!
Mum should be happy you didn't purchase a new digital monster. This generation of machinery is the most reliable and cost effective. Thanks for the journey. Cheers from Australia
Good work Jim. Having your skill set and machine shop!! Is a beautiful thing!!
Now there is a keeper, what a wonderful wife, mother, woman . God Bless you All.
Good to see that this didn't make the scrapyard thanks for saving another allis chalmers tractor sounds really good and looks great. My uncle was a huge A/C collector it was fun farming with them in NE miss those days thanks for sharing the complete rebuild
210s are bringing $15-20k😂 I don't think it would have made the scrapyard!
Sounds perfect. Always feels good when you wrap up a build and everything works
That's so satisfying to see this machine running in the field. Well done!
Man I am happy to see the cleaning guy finally get his toy up and running. I do feel bad for him having to fork out that much money to get it running plus a trip yo Hawaii.. but that's how it goes sometimes
Great job guys
Thanks for sharing your thought process
I've been looking forward to this day, to hear that come to life again!!
Sounds amazing!
Well done guys, loved your diagnosis process.
Really enjoyed this series. The engine sound after the final rebuild is music to my ears. I just bought my first diesel, an IDI F-250. It’s been really fun learning to work on those old diesels. Thankfully it’s a bit less expensive than your “$500” tractor! Hope it gives you guys many decades of service after this build.
That last scene made me smile and chuckle out loud. I could feel the love and respect.
12:22
Lol. I was looking at his hair and noticed that it looked real today.
Thanks for the laugh and tugging on it.
This has been a fun series to watch - thank you for taking the time. And, as others have said, the engine sounds super happy now.
Congrats on the successful rebuild! Love seeing videos with you and your dad working and learning together. Hopefully this will be the last time you need to touch the engine in a long time.
And the clip at the end with Mom with both funny and touching. I’ve had a few conversations like that with my wife 😂
i think it was a mixture of the fuel pump timing being slightly off (pumps dont necesarily time in tdc as proven to me by ford and their 20° btdc pump timing) and the extra 20% fuel mashed into it that made them tight gapped rings have the sweat of their lives! the engine now sounds much more health and happy to be working and honestly 17k old school still beats newer equipment! cheers
That’s awesome to see a pto dyno at your shop!
I also watched the video from Area Diesel as they described the possible issues your Allis Chalmers injection pump may have.
You guys have put a lot of work into this tractor and I enjoy the videos of the process!
I’m liking the EGT and boost gauge. Very important gauges to have even if the tractor is just stock power.
Tractor sounds awesome... great job guys!
Great job, I knew someone with your experience wouldn't assemble an engine with insufficient clearances & it had to be fuel related. Glad it's working put for you
Did you check the piston deck height,in case of bent connecting rods due to coolant leak under head gasket or rain water down exhaust pipe?
It looks and sounds like you won the battle. We don't hear much of Allis anymore. My deceased wife's father was a machinist at the Harvey, IL Buda plant and was responsible for making fuel-injection needles for the big Persian Orange tractors. He retired before the company went bust in 1985. The machines were highly thought of for many decades.
Hello, I really enjoyed watching your video, I found your site on UA-cam shorts, and I enjoy watching videos of father and sons working together on older equipment that a father has a big heart for, I love how your whole family gets involved in making the videos enjoyable.
I look forward to seeing more videos from you and your family, Thank You so Much.
Stay Safe and keep the videos coming.
You know, there might be $17,000+ into that $500.00 tractor, but…. It sounds great, looks like the issues were fixed, you won’t be making payments on it, it will be cheaper to insure against loss, and you don’t need the approval, service delays or permission of “Big Green” to work on the tractor if you need to. Cheap at the price. Once you get the bent PTO shaft fixed, I’ll bet that the tractor will be pulling implements for years after you decide to do a little more relaxing instead of working.
I get a lot more satisfaction out of putting an old tool back in shape that will outlast me, than I do having to work with a shiny new piece of plastic-covered planned obsolescence.
Love the content.
Also that's a good size field.
Happy for you guys.
Satisfying, hopefully she holds together!! Good job!!
CONGRATS! GOOD JOB U 2! ..... Hope she last for many years!.... I like the idea of all the new gauges, great idea!
Great video! it was nice seeing all your hard work in action! Loved hearing that big diesel run
I think it sounds good and responds to load as it should, as you say “ time will tell”!
Just got done watching the Area Diesel vid talking about how the injector pump works and all it’s variables. Fascinating stuff. Hopefully your tractor is now happy and allows you to farm with it.
All wives the same on money spent?
Very funny ending.....Glad you got it running well. Hope it stays fine for you...and I think it will since it sounded great...
I love the sound of the 426. I have one in a 7GB Fiat-Allis track loader. Straight pipe forestry sweeps.
I love the relationship between father and son, the property, and that 210. Especially mom.
Thank you for telling your story.
Awesome job Jim and Nicholas.
I think you have a winner.
Tractor sounds great.
Thanks for sharing the whole process.
Was funny Dad telling Mom the price.
I have been there and done that a few times.
Honesty is always the best policy.
Take care, Ed.
Great video series and the tractor money reveal was the topper!. Keep on smiling.
Glad the tractor is up and running. Hawaii is a great payoff to keep the wife happy.
Absolutely lovely to hear it pulling up the field sounds lovely ! Definitely would like to see this tractor out in the field again
Awesome! Wish our geographic locations were closer so as to call on your shop for it's thorough and unrivaled services. Happy upcoming anniversary.
Sure seems like you've got it now- great reward for careful rework. Now for a pto shaft video!
Sounds so much better! I think she's gonna live this time.
Some times it is really easy to over look the obvious problem, injector pump out of time, I struggle with that sometimes when you know something isn’t right, but in my mind I think no that’s probably nit the problem, and then go looking for some other cause, thanks for taking us along and sharing, we all learned alot, and how quickly the engine failed, Thank you
Your dad looks so happy when he's in that tractor! Glad to see everything is going well with the 210!
To be perfectly honest everything you guys have done absolutely amazing and I like how you explain it I was for 10 years from 84 to 94 navy Diver/N German and I have rebuilt many Detroit’s and worked on caterpillar learned a lot from what you’ve done and how you explained it but absolutely the best part of this video was the last two minutes telling your wife how much you spent on your awesome deal of a tractor that was worth watch the entire series on to be perfectly honest
Awesome to see it up and running again 😀👍
I know this is a video about breaking in an engine on an old tractor but you riding around in the tractor with jim made me so emotional thinking about riding in the tractor with my grandpa when i was little. Good times and God bless you guys. Love this channel
Love seeing the BOSS, thanks for sharing her with us. Great video lads.
So glad to see that tractor up and running like brand new. It looks great. You also have a beautiful dog and a very understanding wife. Thank you for sharing such great videos.
Heitman Tractor Salvage in Durand Wisconsin has new pto shafts. You should also have put the new updated rocker arm shaft in it, and plugged the rocker shaft oil drain tube. If I remember correctly allis was for every pound of boost its 10 horsepower. I'd also shim the oil pressure relief valve, that's kinda low on oil pressure when cold. All of our 426s have also double that when cold.
I was thinking the same, that oil pressure seems pretty low.
It did have break in oil in it which is usually a thinner oil.
YEAH BUDDY! 😊 No swiss watch runs better than that. Love the additional instrumentation. In this day of electronic everything you could sell that as an an aftermarket package for every serious old iron farm tractor that's being worked. Add a transmission temp. and hydraulic pressure gages coupled to an app to record measurements and you would have a product that would greatly benefit every farmer who runs old iron. It is my opinion that running old iron is the way to go unless you are independently wealthy. Too many new farmers make a bargain with the devil (the bank) and wind up losing everything - including the best years of their lives. This video series is a real service to every family farmer who wants to make a comfortable living and be debt free. BRAVO! 😊 I really appreciate the shout out to Area Diesel Service. Great example of how the UA-cam community can be used to bring together the best of the best! So happy to hear they lived up to the recommendations!
The father son team is so awesome. ❤
Best video yet! Tractor is done for the second time, I'll bet Mom gets a trip to Hawaii, maybe by herself since the tractor cost sooo much and Dad has to work more to pay for the trip. Reminds me of growing up on the farm in PA and having to work on everything we owed because we couldn't afford to send it out to get fixed. Keep up the great video and include Mom more!
What a great series! Thanks for sharing. Good luck farming and have a nice trip to Hawaii :)! Ontario, Canada
This is the best channel on youtube. Machine work and just tooling around with big rigs. Family friendly fun!
I came here from a UA-cam short to see what this engine was. I thought it was a huge gasoline engine. I really love the old stuff. Grandpa had 5000 acres in NE NoDak and ran Case stuff. I really enjoyed seeing that unit rock 10 pounds of boost and pull like a champ! I bet it's rocking close to 120 HP....amazing really. Listen to her run!
I know that feeling when the whole workshop is holding their breath and waiting for you to start your newly overhauled engine. Good work guys!
Even at the higher gear that tractor just walks away with the disc with no troubles at all
Glad to see that thing finally running and maybe earning its keep. Fingers crossed
Love the series on this tractor. Always remember to keep more than arms length away from your wife when you're telling her prices on a project.😂😂😂
Sounds great so far
I have a 1948 Model B. I admire your tractor and skill.
That tractor must have been a beast in its heyday, great work,
Brings back memories of riding with dad in our 7060 Allis. Good times.
My Dad had one of these as well as a 180 I believe back in the day. Such good old Tractors.
This is the best video you guys have put out to date! Not just because you got the tractor running. That is awesome! But also the conversation at the end. Priceless!
Have fun in Hawaii Mom!
(My opinion is that the injection pump was the root of your problem. That lead to a cascade failure of the engine.)
This was satisfying. I just got my 'cheap' allis 6080 up and running after 6-8 months of work on it. I know the feeling!
Love your work guys , The tractor is pulling , like a 14 year old boy . Cheers from Australia .
Glad its up and running again
Picture perfect american family!!! This is what i strive to have and be! Good for yall! Beautiful tractor and fine job on the rebuild!
We still farm with Allis Chalmers tractors but mainly 8000 series and 100 series for haying. I have an injection pump that needs rebuilt on my 8050 and after your situation I am afraid of taking it off myself to send it off. I might just let our local AGCO dealer do the work. I have rebuilt several 426 engines but never took the pump off of one maybe there is a good reason for that. I enjoyed your rebuild and am glad you have it up and running again. Looks like good flat ground in your part of CO.
I worked for a rancher down on Cavanaugh road in 1971 while I was in the Air force stationed on Lowry. I did a lot of discing with a Wagner . I found myself looking at the horizon more than the Allis. Looks like she's running great!
I love the interaction between cleaning guy and his wife. I've been there... I "accidentally" bought a tractor on an online auction. A 3020. I'm glad it turned out to be a decent tractor.
Hope you have your engine problem fixed.
Sounds good, love to see your 100 series ACs, they are my favorite tractors. I love the look of the factory cabs, I grew up in a 200 like yours
I have been checking youtube constantly for this video... Thank you!!