I had a good laugh at that one too, especially as an unrepetant goth. You know someone is a straight edge when their rebellion is primarily through hair dye. XD
i teared up at the bit where his mental health affecting bathing his own son at home. that must be hard and he has a big heart to admit it and shine light on these topics
Making him retire after his diagnosis was a missed opportunity. Put him on a board of advisors, put him in governance. Way too knowledgeable to simply discard.
Thank you for talking about your experiences in womens prisons and for your empathy towards the many female prisoners that are also victims/survivor's of abuse.
@@tinnitussoundtherapy Oh no! Won't somebody think of the men?! Maybe when violence towards girls and women ceases to qualify as a national epidemic. Maybe.
I grew up behind a juvenile prison. When they rebuilt it, they showed local adults (mum was one) around the new prison. They told one story about a girl that had done some horrific stuff. They then told a second story in which the subject had an equally disturbing experience but as a victim and then asked what should be done with the two girls. The answers of course being very different. They then asked "what if I told you it was the same girl?" No easy answers I guess, but a quote that stuck with me from Dostoevsky "you can measure societies civilization by its prisons" I think some people are just wronguns and not much can be done, but I do think we should try and help people become better people if there is any hope at all.
The way you speak about them shows that you deserve every ounce of respect. My brother is acquainted with the criminal justice system and prison employees like you made a big difference in his recovery.
I was also a goth when I was young. Makes sense he would get into such a line of work. And for literally _all of_ the right reasons to boot. Doesn't have any sort of chip on his shoulder. Not a bully. A human being. Treats the people he works with as such. Acknowledges that his job is to keep them alive and well, indoors, for the duration of their sentences. He did his job and he did it well. Had zero motives for corruption, and VERY MUCH LIKELY DUE TO HIS "goth" upbringing in his youth, understood _why_ corruption is simply unacceptable. We need real law enforcement officers like this guy. Not the "bros" out looking for "a cool story" to tell friends and family on the weekends.
I was in jail in 2018, only for a short period of around 4 months, my first time going there and it definitely will be my last. I was seeing things in there that I'll never forget! Spice is rife in there and it's such dangerous stuff. I've seen people having fits, turning into zombies, and almost dying from it. I've also watched a cellmate make a knife from razor blades and a toothbrush and a makeshift knife from an E-Cigarrete right in front of my eyes and all you can think is, I hope he's not making that to use on me! Thankfully not. It is such a crazy place to be in jail but I definitely learnt my lesson from it and haven't done a bad thing in 6 years! I will not be going back ever again.
Thank you for your service. I can tell from this interview that you were one of the good ones. Officers of your calibre made the job better, safer and fairer (on other staff and prisoners).
why dont this guy get a job training and recruiting new staff as the current prison officers are a complete joke with no training and the prisons are becoming incredibly wild and unsafe
USA here. After 21 years of working in a state run prison, and am blown away at some of the items UK prisoners are allowed to have. In the state I’m in, glass of any kind is not allowed, tin can lids are not allowed. But, prisoners still find a way to make weapons. Hats off to him, prison is not a pleasant place to work (but it pays the bills).
Fascinating to hear he worked with Eunice Spry, one of her victims was on here a while ago. Amazing lad. Hearing about that situation from before and after she got arrested is very interesting
What a humble guy. It's amazing how focused he was on his professionalism, working to do the right thing each day, even for people who you can't say really deserved it.
Made me feel nice to hear him talk about how he was mindful that many of the inmates ended up there as a result of years of abuse. A very respectful human
Was just in hospital for the first time I'm 23 and the older man in the room/bed next to me was pulling his not sure the medical name but his 'pee bag' out and sprayed it at the young nurses was only in an hour I don't know how y'all do your job ended up having to spend a week next to him would smack cuss and keep taking that bag off
@@heide-raquelfuss5580 well I can't speak for all of them but I have worked in a lot, I was an agency nurse for a good few years so I'd do a few nights here and there at different care homes, hospices and hospitals. Some of the care homes were great, some not so much. Even the better ones, if the client needs a lot of care with personal care, they don't always have a lot of say when they get up, get dressed etc, just because the care staff have a lot of people to care for and there is always staffing issues.
I just yesterday saw a video about Eunice Spry, that woman is truly horrendous and that's an understatement.... Hearing she has no remorse doesn't surprise me but pisses me off even more...
Yeah, reading about her case made me dry heave and I've seen and read lot, having had criminal law, forensic science and pathology classes. Hearing that her victim and daughter, Victoria, took her life just.. just broke me. These poor children. I hope she's living the life she deserves (although in my mind, she doesn't deserve to live at all, with the things she's done to innocent kids she was supposed to be loving and protecting).
My old man was a high security screw for 15 years. I asked him once what one particular inmate was like. He said, just another scumbag like the rest of them. I'll never forget it. Being a crim ain't nothing to be proud of. He became a happier human being when he retired, hard job.
Fella thank you for your service in the prison system . I know a decent screw from a shit house screw in a heartbeat. Good prison officers make a difference to peoples lives don’t be kidded . I’ve had experience of both I’ve experienced screws who didn’t give a shit an were bully types and I’m grateful to say that I’ve had experience of a lot more decent prison officers. I’m happy that I’ve changed my life now and jails a long fading memory I’ve worked in criminal justice social work and totally understand where you were coming from when you spoke about working with S.O individuals, I found that too be challenging in the extreme for myself personally and was one of the reasons I left the job . It’s difficult to hear stuff that people have done to a child and then separate your own personal feelings,I couldn’t,I’m grateful for the experience though. It’s a shame the state that the justice system is in,we don’t get the time to do anything productive with people, I joined criminal justice social work as a recovery developmental worker,I wanted to make a difference and help people to help themselves,I found myself before I left with the brief to “just get them through Thier orders”🙄 I didn’t sign up for that. Anyways thanks for being a decent screw n for helping people. I wish you well man .
With talking about the daughter abused by a sex offender who later had the man babysit her own kids, I wouldn't be surprised if the memories of abuse were repressed
Been working the high security estate for years. Everything that's being said here is an every day occurrence, I wouldn't recommend anyone to work in the prison service, quite honestly, it's not worth it. It's an absolutely broken system from top down.
I second that mate. I’ve worked in a Cat B for 5 years. Management is non existent, new staff don’t care about doing the job properly which puts everyone at risk. Literally everyday, theres something going off on the net. Just wondering how much longer i can keep this up for.
@Castrated__ I feel you. You are not alone in feeling alone in the job. Always do what's right for you and look after yourself. Congratulations on completing 5 years. That's better than most these days.
I’m on my 21st year in a cat c/ yo remand, it’s like a war zone, if the staffing was shit it would be an improvement, shocking management, new staff with absolutely no idea of what they’re getting into, I’ve got 5 years left, I won’t be doing 5 years, it’s not worth the stress
Did 16 years high security. Left 7 years ago. Loved the job, but poor management, employing 18 year olds on crap pay just asking for corruption. Glad I left when I did.
*Retired Death Row Officer for my State. *Everything he says is true & so much more he didn't tell you that could've been said. *It changes you. It really does. *You'll/He'll never look @ people again the same way after those experiences. *Stuart, are you still sitting in a restaurant with your face to the doors & back to the wall? *These are just things we do.....LOL
That whole Michael Stone case still messes me up years later... for one I went to the same primary school as Josie and Megan but it was also just after we moved from Lewisham to Kent "because it's safer"... my dad transferred from Brixton (or Belmarsh or Scrubs - he worked at all 3) as SO to Canterbury and always said that was the worst because of the inmates... I'm sure to this day he thinks Stone is guilty - said he was emotionally empty and showed no remorse but why would you if you're innocent???
I worked in DOC for 7 years, different facilities e.g men’s work release, medium security men, maximum security women, max security juvenile. The worst monsters I met were women.
My old man was a Screw. Over 20 years. Vastly different to this man. I remember thinking he was meant to do that job. A brutally hard man. No sympathy whatsoever, for the reasons of why those men were there. It was punishment. He wasn't a bastard though. He talked about how boring Cat A jails were, because everyone was doing their time. An Indian con gave him a great recipe, yet he killed his whole family. He transferred to HMP Wandsworth. He said, short sentence guys have more to prove. He said it was the best job he ever had.
Thank you to Stuart for taking part in this episode of Minutes With.
Thank you for having me, Molly was great and it was a really good experience
@@stuart9306 Top marks, Mr. Taylor. You're a good, decent man and I thoroughly enjoyed listening to you. Greetings from Tucson, Arizona. 👍😃
Stop making utter trash about things nobody cares about
Great interview, Could have shown a pic of goth Stuart though 😂
A roll up £50😂😂😂bullshito
Stuart has a unique way of storytelling, he makes it easy to visualise his experiences.
"I went off the rails"
Aaahh okay. What was it. Drugs? Crime? Wrong crowd?
"I became a goth"
Okay this is serious...
😂😂😂
I dyed my hair 😂
when i heard that, i laughed instantly. His version of going off the rails is havin blue hair. xD good interview rthough
I had a good laugh at that one too, especially as an unrepetant goth. You know someone is a straight edge when their rebellion is primarily through hair dye. XD
i lol'd
i teared up at the bit where his mental health affecting bathing his own son at home. that must be hard and he has a big heart to admit it and shine light on these topics
This bloke is so genuine. Hats off to the fella.
Loved this interview. The amount of details usually not shared is interesting and crazy to know. Mad respect to good prison officers out there.
Making him retire after his diagnosis was a missed opportunity. Put him on a board of advisors, put him in governance. Way too knowledgeable to simply discard.
Thank you for talking about your experiences in womens prisons and for your empathy towards the many female prisoners that are also victims/survivor's of abuse.
As if males dont have the same background
@@tinnitussoundtherapy DUH we all know this. that wasn't what the comment was about though.
Wonder what Dennehy would do to these women. If she would've lived a century ago, she would've been executed.
@@tinnitussoundtherapy Oh no! Won't somebody think of the men?! Maybe when violence towards girls and women ceases to qualify as a national epidemic. Maybe.
I grew up behind a juvenile prison. When they rebuilt it, they showed local adults (mum was one) around the new prison. They told one story about a girl that had done some horrific stuff. They then told a second story in which the subject had an equally disturbing experience but as a victim and then asked what should be done with the two girls. The answers of course being very different. They then asked "what if I told you it was the same girl?" No easy answers I guess, but a quote that stuck with me from Dostoevsky "you can measure societies civilization by its prisons" I think some people are just wronguns and not much can be done, but I do think we should try and help people become better people if there is any hope at all.
What an inspirational human being. His empathy and compassion are so clear.
Great interview! He seems to be a very thoughtful man. When he explained why he didn’t raise his voice to the female prisoners - 👏🏾!
The way you speak about them shows that you deserve every ounce of respect. My brother is acquainted with the criminal justice system and prison employees like you made a big difference in his recovery.
What do you mean? This guy took his anger out on the make prisoners and chased the women with his pecker
When he mentioned "Eunice Spry," I immediately got chills. I binged-watched documentaries on her and her victims some months ago.
Clocked that aswell mate fucking monster
Same here. I've never been much of a believer in 'evil'.
But Eunice Spry is definitely Evil.
She is evil. That she's wallowing in self pity is exactly the type of narcissist she is.
Ladbible made another one of these ‘minutes with’ videos with Christopher Spry, one of the survivors of her abuse. It’s worth watching for sure.
I cant even look at a picture of that woman. Its like looking into the eyes of a demon. She makes my blood run cold.
I remember this fella when I was in Wandsworth. He was a top screw. Fair and just.
He never worked there 😏
It's not really Jamie carragher
when did Jammie Jamie go to prison? If he did, I bet he shat somewhere and was caught on CCTV doing it lmao.
Thank you. I tried my best. I hope you're doing well
@@stuart9306 are you the actual bloke or are we all pretending
As a former correctional officer, I needed this. Thank you
I was also a goth when I was young. Makes sense he would get into such a line of work. And for literally _all of_ the right reasons to boot. Doesn't have any sort of chip on his shoulder. Not a bully. A human being. Treats the people he works with as such. Acknowledges that his job is to keep them alive and well, indoors, for the duration of their sentences. He did his job and he did it well. Had zero motives for corruption, and VERY MUCH LIKELY DUE TO HIS "goth" upbringing in his youth, understood _why_ corruption is simply unacceptable. We need real law enforcement officers like this guy. Not the "bros" out looking for "a cool story" to tell friends and family on the weekends.
Cheer up goth
I was in jail in 2018, only for a short period of around 4 months, my first time going there and it definitely will be my last. I was seeing things in there that I'll never forget! Spice is rife in there and it's such dangerous stuff. I've seen people having fits, turning into zombies, and almost dying from it. I've also watched a cellmate make a knife from razor blades and a toothbrush and a makeshift knife from an E-Cigarrete right in front of my eyes and all you can think is, I hope he's not making that to use on me! Thankfully not. It is such a crazy place to be in jail but I definitely learnt my lesson from it and haven't done a bad thing in 6 years! I will not be going back ever again.
I don't think this is told enough, so- Thank you for your service!! Prison Officers are very underappreciated I feel.
Thank you so much. Very appreciated
Thank you for your service. I can tell from this interview that you were one of the good ones. Officers of your calibre made the job better, safer and fairer (on other staff and prisoners).
One of the best series on youtube
Wasn’t expecting digga to get mentioned
why dont this guy get a job training and recruiting new staff as the current prison officers are a complete joke with no training and the prisons are becoming incredibly wild and unsafe
Fascinating interview, would love to read a book by him.
USA here. After 21 years of working in a state run prison, and am blown away at some of the items UK prisoners are allowed to have. In the state I’m in, glass of any kind is not allowed, tin can lids are not allowed. But, prisoners still find a way to make weapons. Hats off to him, prison is not a pleasant place to work (but it pays the bills).
Like lexan machetes....LOL
Fascinating to hear he worked with Eunice Spry, one of her victims was on here a while ago. Amazing lad. Hearing about that situation from before and after she got arrested is very interesting
Eunice Spry was convicted in 2007, released in 2014. fucking insane
“Bit of a rebel I’d say”
-some random goth prison guard
Loool
I like how he always starts his answer before the question is even fully asked. ^^
What a lovely man !
What a very professional man amazing speaker.
Thank you to the gentleman for sharing his experience. I enjoyed very much hearing him
RIP Milly Dowler, gone but never forgotten. What Levi did to that girl will never leave my mind.
(ALL CAPS AS IAM LEGALLY BLIND) BLESS YOU SIR FOR DOING A JOB THAT MOST COULD NEVER IMAGINE.
What a humble guy.
It's amazing how focused he was on his professionalism, working to do the right thing each day, even for people who you can't say really deserved it.
Excellent interview 🎉
I know someone who works as a chaplain and librarian in the South of England. Must be a tough gig. Hats off to everyone in the prison service.
Made me feel nice to hear him talk about how he was mindful that many of the inmates ended up there as a result of years of abuse. A very respectful human
Thanks for your interview..
8:38 Nurse here 🙋♀️ sounds pretty much like a shift on an elderly dementia unit 😂
I know what you mean. As a patient near a ward with dementia patients.
Was just in hospital for the first time I'm 23 and the older man in the room/bed next to me was pulling his not sure the medical name but his 'pee bag' out and sprayed it at the young nurses was only in an hour I don't know how y'all do your job ended up having to spend a week next to him would smack cuss and keep taking that bag off
Yikes lol poor nurse lol
Elderly homes are not that humain either...is it?
@@heide-raquelfuss5580 well I can't speak for all of them but I have worked in a lot, I was an agency nurse for a good few years so I'd do a few nights here and there at different care homes, hospices and hospitals. Some of the care homes were great, some not so much.
Even the better ones, if the client needs a lot of care with personal care, they don't always have a lot of say when they get up, get dressed etc, just because the care staff have a lot of people to care for and there is always staffing issues.
I just yesterday saw a video about Eunice Spry, that woman is truly horrendous and that's an understatement.... Hearing she has no remorse doesn't surprise me but pisses me off even more...
Yeah, reading about her case made me dry heave and I've seen and read lot, having had criminal law, forensic science and pathology classes. Hearing that her victim and daughter, Victoria, took her life just.. just broke me. These poor children. I hope she's living the life she deserves (although in my mind, she doesn't deserve to live at all, with the things she's done to innocent kids she was supposed to be loving and protecting).
@@margodphdone of her victims was actually on this show! I wish they’d have told this guy that
@@reecebrown5849 Do you remember the title of this video? I might have missed it.
@@margodphd it’s called “my mother tried to kill me”
@@margodphd or atleast that’s what it says on the thumbnail
Its a shame he was forced to leave due to health reasons, he was an asset to the job
My old man was a high security screw for 15 years. I asked him once what one particular inmate was like.
He said, just another scumbag like the rest of them. I'll never forget it. Being a crim ain't nothing to be proud of.
He became a happier human being when he retired, hard job.
Fella thank you for your service in the prison system .
I know a decent screw from a shit house screw in a heartbeat.
Good prison officers make a difference to peoples lives don’t be kidded .
I’ve had experience of both I’ve experienced screws who didn’t give a shit an were bully types and I’m grateful to say that I’ve had experience of a lot more decent prison officers.
I’m happy that I’ve changed my life now and jails a long fading memory I’ve worked in criminal justice social work and totally understand where you were coming from when you spoke about working with
S.O individuals,
I found that too be challenging in the extreme for myself personally and was one of the reasons I left the job .
It’s difficult to hear stuff that people have done to a child and then separate your own personal feelings,I couldn’t,I’m grateful for the experience though.
It’s a shame the state that the justice system is in,we don’t get the time to do anything productive with people,
I joined criminal justice social work as a recovery developmental worker,I wanted to make a difference and help people to help themselves,I found myself before I left with the brief to “just get them through Thier orders”🙄
I didn’t sign up for that.
Anyways thanks for being a decent screw n for helping people.
I wish you well man .
With talking about the daughter abused by a sex offender who later had the man babysit her own kids, I wouldn't be surprised if the memories of abuse were repressed
Not only repressed, but maybe some kind of Stockholm Syndrome.
Just found this channel and had to sub. There are some really good interviews with interesting people doing interesting things. Keep it up!
We thank you for your service.
Fellow ex-HOBM screw here, the things we'd deal with will haunt me forever. HT out
HT out ❤
Been working the high security estate for years. Everything that's being said here is an every day occurrence, I wouldn't recommend anyone to work in the prison service, quite honestly, it's not worth it. It's an absolutely broken system from top down.
I second that mate. I’ve worked in a Cat B for 5 years. Management is non existent, new staff don’t care about doing the job properly which puts everyone at risk. Literally everyday, theres something going off on the net.
Just wondering how much longer i can keep this up for.
@Castrated__ I feel you. You are not alone in feeling alone in the job. Always do what's right for you and look after yourself. Congratulations on completing 5 years. That's better than most these days.
I’m on my 21st year in a cat c/ yo remand, it’s like a war zone, if the staffing was shit it would be an improvement, shocking management, new staff with absolutely no idea of what they’re getting into, I’ve got 5 years left, I won’t be doing 5 years, it’s not worth the stress
@@RainLightSeer Thank you pal, same to you!👮🏻♂️🫡
Did 16 years high security. Left 7 years ago. Loved the job, but poor management, employing 18 year olds on crap pay just asking for corruption. Glad I left when I did.
He seems like a nice guy
*Retired Death Row Officer for my State.
*Everything he says is true & so much more he didn't tell you that could've been said.
*It changes you. It really does.
*You'll/He'll never look @ people again the same way after those experiences.
*Stuart, are you still sitting in a restaurant with your face to the doors & back to the wall?
*These are just things we do.....LOL
Absolutely. I fight with my ex Prison officer wife for that chair!
Absolutely. I fight with my ex Prison officer wife for that chair!
Seems like an amazing man who did the job he was born to do. Very interesting to hear about his experiences.
Brilliant video. Thanks. Take care and stay safe. Tom.
What a crazy job. I could never do that job. I'd last 2 mins before prisoners ate me alive
Ditto! They want a phone I’ll get you and iPad if you don’t hurt me lol
Seriously changed my opinion about this guy well done on your journey mad respect
Amazing interview 🎉
Dude enunciates better than 90% of British civilians not on TV. Love it, I bet immersed in the stories when I can follow the verbal bouncing ball.
Roight wots all this den? Yew sayin inobit brev? Naur! Imonar benembe
@@sunnyztmoney trying to be funny^
Such an ignorant comment from someone who clearly doesn't know many bits in real life.
Do you personally know 90% of British civilians not on TV? Yeah, thought not...
Thank you for your service, sir.
Fabulous interview 👌🏽✋🏽
I love how youtube teaches us all the ways to survive prison
Did *not* see the goth part coming.
This guy has my utmost respect.
really enjoyed this interview 👍
Great interview 😊
Nice to see Bill Ward is keeping himself busy
CO of nearly ten years myself. It’s crazy how similar his experiences are to mine.
They always make it sound like a good job on these. My dad does it and other people I know and they all say it’s a horrible job
His experiences mirror some of mine as a nurse😮
Good interview, wish they asked him more questions about the Wandsworth sex scandal and how common it is
Very interesting man .
Loved this guy, seems really genuine
What a wonderful man.
That whole Michael Stone case still messes me up years later... for one I went to the same primary school as Josie and Megan but it was also just after we moved from Lewisham to Kent "because it's safer"... my dad transferred from Brixton (or Belmarsh or Scrubs - he worked at all 3) as SO to Canterbury and always said that was the worst because of the inmates... I'm sure to this day he thinks Stone is guilty - said he was emotionally empty and showed no remorse but why would you if you're innocent???
good man Stuart, well done dude :)
Good lad thank you for your years of service
Thank you
From the sounds of it a real rarity within the prison force. You can see why he got respect.
Thank you. Much appreciated
great storyteller!
Abused his own daughter from 8 years old... im a father to a 11 year old and i would rather die then ever hurt him in any way hes my whole world
Should do some psychopath and sociopath interviews Ladbible. That would be fascinating.
2 years as a prison officer, I also worked a year on the vp wing, I left because of the staff not the prisoners!
I’m thinking of applying, could you elaborate on this mate?
He died his hair? Man that must have been WAY back! 😅 no but silly jabs aside, I love this guy, such a wholesome interview
Minutes with the Ladbible creator would be a good one
11 adverts in a 23min video, thats worse than itv movies
Hold on is Eunice Spry the woman who abused that Christopher guy who had a Minutes With as well?
I love the strong box
18:32 Get used to it 😂💯
His Dad basically said “I’d be less embarrassed if you were a screw than a goth”
Something like that
Emphysema. His delivery is hard work
Ahh that's what it is
This country needs Reform
Looking at this man you'd have no idea he used to be a goth, I love it XD
Spys' foster daughter, who suffered years of abuse, killed hersrlf in 2021.
R.I.P ❤❤❤
Yes, dreadful. My wife knew Victoria through shared interests.
I grew up around HMP Leeds I didn't end up working there but I've had a short stay there grim AF
Holy crap, was Eunice Spry around 14:20, didn't this channel interview one of the foster sons on that witch? Small world 😢
Seems like a really decent bloke, a real loss to the prison service.
❤ good officer I can tell, my father was an officer aswell, very similar ❤
Seems like a really decent guy
Is anyone else distracted by his breathing?? Sounds like gasping everytime he breaths in
I worked in DOC for 7 years, different facilities e.g men’s work release, medium security men, maximum security women, max security juvenile. The worst monsters I met were women.
Really ? How so ?
1:30 - and "dyeing my hair different colours and growing it long"
You should team up with Rob Halford, he's been bald too
Seems like a true gent 👍
@LADbible guys please fix ur interviewee mic situation, these guttural sounds of them swallowing and breathing is such a hard listen
we just need nayib bukele in every country running the prisons lmao
My old man was a Screw. Over 20 years. Vastly different to this man.
I remember thinking he was meant to do that job. A brutally hard man. No sympathy whatsoever, for the reasons of why those men were there. It was punishment. He wasn't a bastard though. He talked about how boring Cat A jails were, because everyone was doing their time. An Indian con gave him a great recipe, yet he killed his whole family.
He transferred to HMP Wandsworth. He said, short sentence guys have more to prove. He said it was the best job he ever had.