Could easily have made this video like an hour long if i discussed every little detail but it needs to be kept within reason 😛 i will leave it to you to share your own tips in the comments. Also, big late game video soon 👀
@MackanRules - when is it not worth placing down Tier 5 towers due to the Paragon of Power MK? Basically which paragons are worth sacrificing the extra attack speed for the Tier 5 towers?
about the towers in chimps. Boat paragon is very likely a bad tower to get cuz it would kill your stall which is needed for LotN. if you're wondering "why not get ninja paragon in chimps as well?". while it would be a great asset but it is practically impossible to save up for. and even if you could you need to ultraboost all your jistus way before the setup is done, so getting a ninja paragon at any time would most likely end your run because of the missing damage.
@@Lt_Korook there is almost no reason to even argue here, this video is about freeplay, it has nothing to do with chimps. Not a single paragon is possible to place in chimps because of the very limited money. No true sun god can be achieved either. Adora won't even reach lvl 20 in chimps. If you think you can place a boat paragon in chimps, try it out for yourself, you would be the first person to ever to that.
3:00 > To help with quickly upgrading Heros for late-game, You can actually just press the tower upgrade hotkeys. (The Comma, Period, and Forward Slash which normally upgrade top, middle, and bottom path for towers, all work to purchase hero upgrades. They look like this: ", . /" and are located next to one another to the left of the rightmost Shift button.) They can all be pressed at the same time or in rapid succession to level Heros up much faster then you could by mouse (Especially during the more laggy rounds!!) Do keep in mind, however, that leveling a Hero from 0-20 usually costs from around $200-$300 thousand, so make sure you're prepared to go bankrupt when you want to make Quincy your main DPS tower and need to micro all his abilities.
I've just beaten round 300 Impopabble on Carved (with Sauda??? (cause easy early game) (no tempels/ultraboost and many other really important towers (damage and debuffs). After this guide (video) I now know what I can do better in my next late game run. Tank you very much.
9:09 blud is blinking because he doesnt want to miss any moabs (if he does not blink, the blinking will come randomly, like if he blinks he might miss a ddt (not as game, as like if it was irl) so i dont rlly know but i guess thats why)
I kinda just winged it, and got to 215 on Logs, then came here. I got a Wizard and Dart paragon, and JUST made a TSG before i lost. Crazy to see how much more i can do if i actually cared about the order or where i placed things, or actually tried to farm money early on.
My highest round is 300 from when the Boat Paragon just released I think. The thing is that I am on mobile so I don’t really know if it’s worth the time of doing it again
First time lategame I went on Resort/Hard, went for a bathroom break and forgot I had auto-start on. Lost at ~260. That hurt, but at least I got to see how laggy this game could get lol
I must wonder how the late game meta will look once there are at least 20 paragons added. Could Geraldo ever reach the apotheosis of late game or will the super monkey paragon synergize too well with Adora? Just food for thought.
My thoughts are that eventually, when all paragons are released, the damage output from high degree paragons will outclass anything else. It is impossible to predict with certainty, but I'm sure at the minimum Geraldo will get to the point of being "viable" when more paragons come out.
@@estolee5485 There's a chance, but that would need to come with a new way to gain degrees for paragons; ever since Geraldo was nerfed in its ability to be sold and rebought for paragon totems, it takes a while just to get the current paragons to their max degrees.
@@MightZJPoepet No, it wouldn't. It only takes 20 totems for each degree 100 paragon, so there is more than enough time to get every hypothetical paragon to degree 100 in a late game scenario.
@@estolee5485 I don't think it is as easy as you make it seem: in total there are 23 potential paragons as of now and even if you spammed cash drops in easy difficulty, got Geraldo lvl20 round 1, and used up every farm insta monkey you have, you would still have to account for the pops of the paragon, therefore it would take around the 50's to get your first degree 100 paragon assuming you have infinite money. By the time you can start placing a paragon every 20 rounds, the bloons would start gaining a huge ramp-up in hp that the bloons would start pushing regardless of new paragons past round 300, similar to ISAB's video when he got every paragon up to degree 100 while struggling heavily despite using the perma-morphosis bug.
How far can you get in Cornfield with just the space _between_ the corn (i.e. without the middle patch)? I believe you can fit one medium tower and 2 small towers plus a bunch of Geraldo items. Round 140 is doable for sure, didn't push past that cause I'm not much of a freeplay guy
@@werderwuBloon Master Alchemist. Bottom path alchemist 5th tier. It one shots anything up to fortified zomg even as their health is ramped up into the millions. In late game it'll have almost as many pops as VTSG
With the 25 pools bug do you think its possible that ezili could outclassed adore because you would have infinite money and could just buy resell spam?
Yea it is better, but what’s the fun in a massive exploit that makes the game basically effortless. It’s not just adora or ezili micro, you can put millions of ninjas on the pool and 20 shinobis, which will get you to round 10000.
I dont know if you touched on this but I was curious with the paragon of power MK is it better to let the paragons have it or get their t5 counter parts.
did a freeplay on hard with geraldo he has 10m+ pops before round 200 and i have a degree 39 paragon which is at 2m and i got him at like round 120 i also got an vtsg before 100 which is at 24m and the sub paragon at 50m+ pops
@@amougus8607 its possible with the right farming but it might have changed with the new update and also you used to be able to have 100,000 by round 40
@@sasuke_uchihahokage1655 yes it would be bad, but you can use cash to level them up, it costs over 200,000 but with proper farming you get millions makeing it not an issue
I think ninjas is better for a few reasons :p They are smaller so you can fit more, they have seeking projectiles so you use more of the potential damage etc.. But i have never tried it!
theoretically if you are playing on 4 player coop, how much does this change? I think it means you shouldn't get a vtsg, since 4 TSGs will obviously be stronger, but is anything else different?
@@MackanRules it could be an interesting thing to try. Probably no one knows too much, since it is an absolute nightmare to do if you actually use coop. (if you do it, you should definitely do it as a simulated run using mods).
I love so much how much information you are able to fit into the length of the videos and how much effort you put in and how thorough you are with them I always get what I want and more and appreciate your content so much
I'm currently on round 306 or something like that on a chimps run. I can't imagine getting a true sun god! How? I've managed to save 200k, but more than that seems impossible!
You gotta start farming super early, ideally for boss runs and high rounds you want a million or so by round 100. The best way to do this is by 520 and 420 farms with a 105 village, however you will need to collect them manually or place a farmer
@@WhatThe_e they fixed that bug. I do have a support sun temple, which I got very early on in order to get everything discounted, but I've never managed to save too much money still.
But there are some maps where Geraldo can do better than Ezeli and Adora because of how unique the map is an example is mid night mansion as you can only get limited farming no vtsg and only 2 sun god temples.
Ok. Dumb question. So the paragon of power MK gives paragons a 20% (I believe) attack speed bonus if there’s no T5s of that tower present alongside it. What towers are worth having a T5 alongside their paragon vs letting their paragon have that bonus speed?
I think the only paragons that require both it and their corresponding tier 5s include: Ace, Buccaneer (if you need a 2nd carrier flagship), Engineer, Submarine, and possibly Wizard (though I think the damage differences are relatively small).
What about the pool stocking glitch can doesn't it make it able to place everything in a good spot does that mean scrap yard become a possibility (I know it's not because the sun temples) going to go farther than you ever have?
Dude im sad, i bought adora before and though it was bad so when i tried getting geraldo on my phone, it said if you wanted to play on this cloud or this cloud. My other cloud had 5k monkey money, i chose that one. I got Geraldo and i was happy, but this video made me realized how good adora is, now im kinda sad.
This video is BS, there's no way a hero can make a difference of over 200 rounds (i just finished a game with all paragons, all at least power 70, and the VTSG, and round 296 was unwinnable)
Could easily have made this video like an hour long if i discussed every little detail but it needs to be kept within reason 😛 i will leave it to you to share your own tips in the comments. Also, big late game video soon 👀
I love you Romantically
I'd be happy to watch a hour long video from you, if you made one.
Tip: don't buy the vtsg until you have all the paragons, others it will steal pops
@@amogus2734same
Do it please every tip
@MackanRules - when is it not worth placing down Tier 5 towers due to the Paragon of Power MK? Basically which paragons are worth sacrificing the extra attack speed for the Tier 5 towers?
I think you forgot the most important step of all, which is to put your PC in a refrigerator to keep it from heating up too much.
that works until the laptop starts melting through the refrigerator
get some NaK cooling or better yet liquid helium cooling
what if i'm playing on mobile? do i have to go to Antarctica then?
@@Thebloonsolver go to vaccume of space
@@Thebloonsolverjust go to Costco or some other place with walk in freezers.
Make sure to pop the bloons
Thank you! I’ve been struggling to find out what was wrong with my runs
@@Icouldntcomeupwithaclevernames your welcome 😊😊😊
Try also making money and not running out of lives. It helps greatly.
Pro tip here: you could even try placing a tower
@@delta6847 Nah, that feels too much like micromanaging
Me seeing that "big late game video coming soon" at the end makes me more excited than my birthday
9:03 The 5-x-x Sniper blinks so much because they're covered in leaves, so there's probably some on they're eyes
about the towers in chimps. Boat paragon is very likely a bad tower to get cuz it would kill your stall which is needed for LotN.
if you're wondering "why not get ninja paragon in chimps as well?". while it would be a great asset but it is practically impossible to save up for. and even if you could you need to ultraboost all your jistus way before the setup is done, so getting a ninja paragon at any time would most likely end your run because of the missing damage.
It is a 600k tower why would you get it in chimps or do you just mean free play without monkey knowledge
@@criticaltipper7699 no I mean chimps. You get more money than you might think
@@Lt_Koro you get 178k in Chimps, no way to make more. Boat paragon costs over 400k with the tier 5s. There is something wrong with your math.
@@sooos_2294 are you serious right now? Look again what this video was about and reconsider...
@@Lt_Korook there is almost no reason to even argue here, this video is about freeplay, it has nothing to do with chimps. Not a single paragon is possible to place in chimps because of the very limited money. No true sun god can be achieved either. Adora won't even reach lvl 20 in chimps. If you think you can place a boat paragon in chimps, try it out for yourself, you would be the first person to ever to that.
Now.. with ALL this knowledge, I'll finally be able to get past round 2.
BRO HOW DID YOU BEAT ROUND 1
wait until you see round 4.... I'm glad CHIMPS skips it
@@vinesthemonkey And round 3, it makes me shiver in me timbers 🥶
@@BunKheang168-fj4eohow did you lose round one it has the same bloons as r 4426 but negative
I wish they would make BTD run on more than just one core on a computer, because if that was the case there would be way less lag in late game
Plus, how many times have we crashed the game while playing a mobile device?
My highest round before watching this was 473, ill come back and say what it is after this video
I DID IT I GOT TO ROUND 517 🎉
You will need about a week to beat that💀
wtf
K bro
How did things go?
@@lancetheking7524 the game is prob long not over yet
the lag isnt actually from the projectiles, its from the damage calculatons.
I can see that but projecties still do something with lag
3:00 > To help with quickly upgrading Heros for late-game, You can actually just press the tower upgrade hotkeys. (The Comma, Period, and Forward Slash which normally upgrade top, middle, and bottom path for towers, all work to purchase hero upgrades. They look like this: ", . /" and are located next to one another to the left of the rightmost Shift button.)
They can all be pressed at the same time or in rapid succession to level Heros up much faster then you could by mouse (Especially during the more laggy rounds!!) Do keep in mind, however, that leveling a Hero from 0-20 usually costs from around $200-$300 thousand, so make sure you're prepared to go bankrupt when you want to make Quincy your main DPS tower and need to micro all his abilities.
Ninja alch heli is one of the strongest possible lategame strats in battles 2, so no surprise it goes crazy late.
I've just beaten round 300 Impopabble on Carved (with Sauda??? (cause easy early game) (no tempels/ultraboost and many other really important towers (damage and debuffs). After this guide (video) I now know what I can do better in my next late game run. Tank you very much.
Very interesting, informative, entertaining, helpful,.... video. Keep up the hard work!
I'm hyped for the next big late game video!
9:09 blud is blinking because he doesnt want to miss any moabs (if he does not blink, the blinking will come randomly, like if he blinks he might miss a ddt (not as game, as like if it was irl) so i dont rlly know but i guess thats why)
I kinda just winged it, and got to 215 on Logs, then came here. I got a Wizard and Dart paragon, and JUST made a TSG before i lost. Crazy to see how much more i can do if i actually cared about the order or where i placed things, or actually tried to farm money early on.
Love the way he says “EESAY mode” 😂
awesome! just got to round 500 after a few days and it takes too long to push any farther haha. thank you for all the videos this past year+
about geraldo, it should also be worth mentioning about capes since it allows you to get more sun avatars
The capes along with the discounts from villages, the temple boosts and the free dart monkeys the 004 village gives seams pretty cheap
9:36 : "Hello there!"
Fun fact: super glue + icicle impale makes moab class bloons stunned for the rest of the round(except BADs ofc)
insane.
Flooded is also really good for freeplay probably 4th in my opinion
My highest round is 300 from when the Boat Paragon just released I think. The thing is that I am on mobile so I don’t really know if it’s worth the time of doing it again
Great video, nice to see you back to making them.
First time lategame I went on Resort/Hard, went for a bathroom break and forgot I had auto-start on. Lost at ~260. That hurt, but at least I got to see how laggy this game could get lol
i feel like as more paragons get added, geraldo will be the best hero for lategame for the paragon power totems
i would add that you should put temples over frozen pools to get the flagship buff
I must wonder how the late game meta will look once there are at least 20 paragons added. Could Geraldo ever reach the apotheosis of late game or will the super monkey paragon synergize too well with Adora? Just food for thought.
My thoughts are that eventually, when all paragons are released, the damage output from high degree paragons will outclass anything else.
It is impossible to predict with certainty, but I'm sure at the minimum Geraldo will get to the point of being "viable" when more paragons come out.
@@estolee5485 There's a chance, but that would need to come with a new way to gain degrees for paragons; ever since Geraldo was nerfed in its ability to be sold and rebought for paragon totems, it takes a while just to get the current paragons to their max degrees.
@@MightZJPoepet No, it wouldn't. It only takes 20 totems for each degree 100 paragon, so there is more than enough time to get every hypothetical paragon to degree 100 in a late game scenario.
@@estolee5485 I don't think it is as easy as you make it seem: in total there are 23 potential paragons as of now and even if you spammed cash drops in easy difficulty, got Geraldo lvl20 round 1, and used up every farm insta monkey you have, you would still have to account for the pops of the paragon, therefore it would take around the 50's to get your first degree 100 paragon assuming you have infinite money. By the time you can start placing a paragon every 20 rounds, the bloons would start gaining a huge ramp-up in hp that the bloons would start pushing regardless of new paragons past round 300, similar to ISAB's video when he got every paragon up to degree 100 while struggling heavily despite using the perma-morphosis bug.
How far can you get in Cornfield with just the space _between_ the corn (i.e. without the middle patch)? I believe you can fit one medium tower and 2 small towers plus a bunch of Geraldo items. Round 140 is doable for sure, didn't push past that cause I'm not much of a freeplay guy
He made a video on that or someone did forgot who
I thought if you were running ezili dark champions were optimal but idk if that’s outdated
Thanks for the upload!
If you aren’t getting a support temple wouldn’t it be better to go for a 2122 vtsg or tsg?
just do the 25 pool trick where you stack them on top of each other and you will have unlimited space on your map for farms or whatever.
While its obvious, don't forget to use BMA as well
For sure!! Kinda forgot to mention it tbh, my bad 😅
What is that
@@werderwu bottom path alchemist
@@werderwuBloon Master Alchemist. Bottom path alchemist 5th tier. It one shots anything up to fortified zomg even as their health is ramped up into the millions. In late game it'll have almost as many pops as VTSG
I dont lose to the rounds i lose to my mobile device lagging and crashing and overheating. Plus after round 140 its not even that fun anymore
yeah i hate the lagging so much best i’ve done is round 350 before the lag was too much and i gave up when i could have gone at least 50 rounds higher
yea i've never actually died on a lategame run my phone just kills itself long before
Try turning accesibility down. I play on mobile and its fine for me usually so thats all I can suggest
you can also just alt f4 while you are still in the loosing screne and it wont delete the save
Selling and rebuying Ezili never crossed my mind, I can setup a python script to do that repeatedly to get to R1000 possibly.
With the 25 pools bug do you think its possible that ezili could outclassed adore because you would have infinite money and could just buy resell spam?
does it still work
Idk I've never heard of news of it being patched
it does still work
So wouldn't that just be infinitely times better then adora, and its not that much more microy since you alr have to do a ton of buying for adora
Yea it is better, but what’s the fun in a massive exploit that makes the game basically effortless. It’s not just adora or ezili micro, you can put millions of ninjas on the pool and 20 shinobis, which will get you to round 10000.
Or you could just have a save from when the infinite paragon glitch was still in the game and be on round 1098
uhm… one question
why grind late game, isn’t it better to just leave the run as soon as you beat it?
Because number big good?
Yes, it is because big number good (also reaching a multiple of 100 rounds gives you an instamonkey)
@@VGV1deo people use insta-monkeys?
im just playing on phone which i have netflix on and i just play btd6 that way lol
I dont know if you touched on this but I was curious with the paragon of power MK is it better to let the paragons have it or get their t5 counter parts.
My pb right now is 285, cant go any farther cause my phone runs like a slideshow
intently watching this as if i don't already know everything 😭
did a freeplay on hard with geraldo he has 10m+ pops before round 200 and i have a degree 39 paragon which is at 2m and i got him at like round 120 i also got an vtsg before 100 which is at 24m and the sub paragon at 50m+ pops
Lucifer’s sanctum
5:00 i came up with a strat to get boat paragon by round 98ish
Lies that physically impossible
@@amougus8607 its possible with the right farming but it might have changed with the new update and also you used to be able to have 100,000 by round 40
@@MOONLIGHT-x6z thought you ment in chinps
If you could use all heroes in chimps, how useful would each be, and would any be not worth it to get?
Most would be useless since the xp for leveling will be split
@@sasuke_uchihahokage1655 I know, but some heroes like Benjamin will be more of a waste of space than useful.
@@sasuke_uchihahokage1655 XP split doesn't matter in freeplay because you can just buy levels through farming
@@josh-gu6ziI meant more would be useless
@@sasuke_uchihahokage1655 yes it would be bad, but you can use cash to level them up, it costs over 200,000 but with proper farming you get millions makeing it not an issue
What about vtsg on water with brickell? Is that not good anymore? I haven't tried a late run in a while...
Would druids be feasible in chimps instead of ninjas or is the ninja stack more powerful
I think ninjas is better for a few reasons :p They are smaller so you can fit more, they have seeking projectiles so you use more of the potential damage etc.. But i have never tried it!
what are good towers that don't cause too much lag? i have potato computah i love 025 dart
For the hero i like psy because of the stalling
If you see this is umm psy good
My highest round is 499 my pc couldn't handle more
theoretically if you are playing on 4 player coop,
how much does this change?
I think it means you shouldn't get a vtsg, since 4 TSGs will obviously be stronger, but is anything else different?
Honestly i don't really know, people have wanted to see a coop high round for a while now but i still don't know the first thing about it 😂
@@MackanRules it could be an interesting thing to try. Probably no one knows too much, since it is an absolute nightmare to do if you actually use coop. (if you do it, you should definitely do it as a simulated run using mods).
Pretty sure you would get one VTSG and three TSG.
9:37 😂
I love so much how much information you are able to fit into the length of the videos and how much effort you put in and how thorough you are with them I always get what I want and more and appreciate your content so much
how to handle lag? i am playing with a friend and the lag is crazy starting from rounds 200+
Theirs no way.
Didn’t they change over clock to have 100% uptime on T4 and T5 now?
It was only to the ultraboost
I'm currently on round 306 or something like that on a chimps run. I can't imagine getting a true sun god! How? I've managed to save 200k, but more than that seems impossible!
You gotta start farming super early, ideally for boss runs and high rounds you want a million or so by round 100. The best way to do this is by 520 and 420 farms with a 105 village, however you will need to collect them manually or place a farmer
@@lego102lego I'm on chimps... No farming unfortunately.
I think you sun temple farm in chimps
@@WhatThe_e they fixed that bug. I do have a support sun temple, which I got very early on in order to get everything discounted, but I've never managed to save too much money still.
4:10 bro forgot mortar for the fortified bloons
How far can the afk azili start go as I want to go to round 500 but have been doing it with Adora
I went with ninja spam+ ezili and afk i made it to 456,after that you need to micro abillity and sell and rebuy
@@arthurservilheri4311 thank you
thx
Nice vid
GREAT
how abt degree 100 super monkey paragon?
Doesnt exist, yet
With mods it does
But no matter what degree it’s impossible to lose with it
Cause the black hole becomes infinite
9:09 goofy aah gif 💀
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no paragons?
Did you watch the video?
But there are some maps where Geraldo can do better than Ezeli and Adora because of how unique the map is an example is mid night mansion as you can only get limited farming no vtsg and only 2 sun god temples.
Ain’t nobody doing freeplay on midnight mansion
As a mobile player I see this lag as an absolute loss
Ok. Dumb question. So the paragon of power MK gives paragons a 20% (I believe) attack speed bonus if there’s no T5s of that tower present alongside it.
What towers are worth having a T5 alongside their paragon vs letting their paragon have that bonus speed?
I think the only paragons that require both it and their corresponding tier 5s include: Ace, Buccaneer (if you need a 2nd carrier flagship), Engineer, Submarine, and possibly Wizard (though I think the damage differences are relatively small).
Skip t5's for:
Dart
Boat (Can't fit on logs)
Possibly also:
Wizard
Boomerang
Don't skip:
Ace
Sub
Ninja
Engi
What about the pool stocking glitch can doesn't it make it able to place everything in a good spot does that mean scrap yard become a possibility (I know it's not because the sun temples) going to go farther than you ever have?
It's long been patched
Edit : nvm I just assumed that was the case
@@gamingagent80 no it did not
@iyl333 yeah sry you're right
@@gamingagent80 because of you l spent a power
@@iyl333 I hope you overcome the grief the loss of 80 mk has inflicted on you
Yay
1 hour gang
69.4k subs
2:17 what is this, 9th grade algebra class?
Yes
Dude im sad, i bought adora before and though it was bad so when i tried getting geraldo on my phone, it said if you wanted to play on this cloud or this cloud. My other cloud had 5k monkey money, i chose that one. I got Geraldo and i was happy, but this video made me realized how good adora is, now im kinda sad.
Wow
🐟
….what?
Anyone else notice the 0 health and 25 mana shield at 9:27 lmfao, how does that happen?!? Anyways, MACKAN UPLOAD!!!!
Sandbox mode
@@ShinyTillDawn Ahhhhhh, forgot about that lol, ty man!
I quite dont understand how to play in freeplay? Is it only available on pc version? Because im playin on mobile.
All you have to do is win a game and it'll give you an option to continue the game and go in freeplay
@@murmunster1761 Thanks, but you kinda late, cuz google saved me
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I don’t understand a single thing in this video
UwU
why the f my friend send me this i don't even play btd6 anymore it to boring
This could be explained in 2 words
Play, freely
25s ago 🔥
Nobody cares
@@Bentheman24eh, ur right
700 views in 15 minutes bro fell off 😿👎
I thought you guys would've learnt by now that no one finds these comments funny anymore.
Third
You are 4th
Nobody cares
3rd and W video
You are 5th
Nobody cares
@@Bentheman24 i haven't seen you here In a while
9:29 0 lives?
sandbox
This video is BS, there's no way a hero can make a difference of over 200 rounds (i just finished a game with all paragons, all at least power 70, and the VTSG, and round 296 was unwinnable)
adora literally doubles the attack speed of temples how does that not make a difference?
@@marxunemiku i didn't know that xd not sure it makes THAT much of a difference but obviously could get past 300 with that
I broke 318 with only one TSG and no paragon above 90. It might be an operator error 🤷♂️
Don't underestimate 10x Overclock
@@IveJustBeenShot i was on End of the Road, that probably had something to do with it, and i did have 10x overclock
my phone has just exploded from playing btd6 until i got to wave 568.
i dislike
PC gamer always win...
haaha idk after I've gotten past 200 its so boring I just want it to end lol I got to like 300 once and I never want to do that again