From all the arrangemnts/guitar/rock version of metal squad, this version has got to be the most epic version of them all. The first time I heard it just struck inside me as an all time favourite with its 8bit/16-bit feel . Definatley sounds better than the original from the game and thats saying something !
Whoa, I had no idea the NES was capable of producing something like this. It's amazing when you think of the potential the NES had with a couple extra chips.
Okay, while the lead instrument is far too harsh, it's amazing how _close_ to the original the rest of the instruments are. The snare in particular. Like, it's _that_ close. Tappy really needs to take another crack at this song.
I can die happily now. Respect for Toshiharu Yamanishi who made this unspeakably awesome track, and respect for the one who made this asskicking conversion.
That's not the only problem. The layout of the componenet inside the NES was different from the Famicom. They actually moved the pin that allowed the main soundchip to accept external ones from the cartridge connector to the bottom of the console. They originally planned to release the Famicom Disk System to America and Europe, so i guess the unit would have been differently connected to the NES so it would have allowed to hear the extra soundchip contained in the FDS.
Very nice! I know it's be tough getting those distorted tones out of famicom hardware, chip-assisted or not. My only niggles are that I would have spent more time adding some vibrato to the guitar tones, to approximate the sound of the original. Also, I can't tell if you used chip-produced drum tones or samples, but if I had to guess, I'd say they're chip tones. They're also a little on the quiet side, drowned out by the awesome guitars. I know Konami NES games are pretty well known for their heavy drum tones (see Crisis Force and Gradius II) so I would perhaps try borrowing the samples from those games? Anyway, otherwise, an excellent effort on your part. Keep it up! :D
@namo8c this version is really great, i didn't know there was such a good tune in TF4 i've only thought there was better gfx than the 3rd. The music from the 3rd were really Xptional and we cant hear clearly the guitar "riffs" in this version but i do feel the same "epicness".
The FM is very scratchy but then again it is an 8-bit chip made when FM was just starting to be implemented. Bet it was a mess to make it run this fast.
yes i must say this version comes very close to the genesis version,only the guitar sound is abit softer but it,s just incredible how close it comes to it. i woder how supermarioworld sounds like,once converting to vrc7 sound???
@namo8c I wouldn't go as far as saying this version is better than the original, which still has better electric guitar sound synthesis and also stereo. Still it's very impressive for a NES, even with an additional chip.
this is epic but also couse it is aa really good tribute to one of the best sounding games ever.the genesis also could got these encreasments in late 90ths they tought about it but sega killed theyre great console.
the only sound the vrc7 chip lacks is the guitar sound,will the genesis soundchip does has a guitar sound programmed in it,s chipset. but offcource this is still amezing trough.
Well, okay. I honestly had no idea (okay some inkling based on three stooges audio) the game sound engine could sample sound and music this way. IMHO it sounds like 8 bit trying really hard to be real. Still a good attempt to be sure, but I think the charm in 8-bit is in the 'de-make' cover factor. Too bad, though, that the american release NES cannot (and will not ever) be able to play the original Akumajou Densetsu ost like the famicom.
@singularity3 This is probably the only tune from the game I actually like compared to III's OST. Yes the music sounds alright when you are playing the game but nothing that will get stuck in your head. "Metal Squad" is the ONLY tune that stands out. TF III just had more tunes that were better composed. Just a matter of opinion.
Unforunately this is the only good tune in the game, TF III had a MUCH better OST by far but this song stands out as the best of the TF IV (to the kiddies this is known as Lightening force here in the US)
DracoHandsome Yes I have. I specifically remember sweating my ass off playing Ninja Gaiden in the attic (which was freaking 90 degrees) in my UNDIES on a CRT TV. XD
+TheDemoniusX , you mean Rosie Palms? That's about the only thing that could ever be your wife, so of course "she" could be happy with in your "Forever Alone" living life.
From all the arrangemnts/guitar/rock version of metal squad, this version has got to be the most epic version of them all. The first time I heard it just struck inside me as an all time favourite with its 8bit/16-bit feel . Definatley sounds better than the original from the game and thats saying something !
Whoa, I had no idea the NES was capable of producing something like this. It's amazing when you think of the potential the NES had with a couple extra chips.
Okay, while the lead instrument is far too harsh, it's amazing how _close_ to the original the rest of the instruments are. The snare in particular. Like, it's _that_ close. Tappy really needs to take another crack at this song.
I can die happily now.
Respect for Toshiharu Yamanishi who made this unspeakably awesome track, and respect for the one who made this asskicking conversion.
That's not the only problem. The layout of the componenet inside the NES was different from the Famicom. They actually moved the pin that allowed the main soundchip to accept external ones from the cartridge connector to the bottom of the console.
They originally planned to release the Famicom Disk System to America and Europe, so i guess the unit would have been differently connected to the NES so it would have allowed to hear the extra soundchip contained in the FDS.
Holy shit, this sounds awesome and VERY close to the original.
Absolutely mind blowing.
I love the grunge of the VRC7.
2 games use this chip, Lagrange point and Tiny toon adventures 2, but tta2 doesn't take advantage of the extra sound channels.
In fairness, it's pretty damned scratchy on the original too. I don't see where the salt flows from in the comments.
Very nice! I know it's be tough getting those distorted tones out of famicom hardware, chip-assisted or not. My only niggles are that I would have spent more time adding some vibrato to the guitar tones, to approximate the sound of the original. Also, I can't tell if you used chip-produced drum tones or samples, but if I had to guess, I'd say they're chip tones. They're also a little on the quiet side, drowned out by the awesome guitars. I know Konami NES games are pretty well known for their heavy drum tones (see Crisis Force and Gradius II) so I would perhaps try borrowing the samples from those games? Anyway, otherwise, an excellent effort on your part. Keep it up! :D
Great cover!
@namo8c this version is really great, i didn't know there was such a good tune in TF4 i've only thought there was better gfx than the 3rd. The music from the 3rd were really Xptional and we cant hear clearly the guitar "riffs" in this version but i do feel the same "epicness".
Incredible for the NES.
This is amazing!
The FM is very scratchy but then again it is an 8-bit chip made when FM was just starting to be implemented. Bet it was a mess to make it run this fast.
Oh, this has to be like your worst enemy playing a homage to you. So it was, thunderforce IV, king of the 16 bit era ;)
yes i must say this version comes very close to the genesis version,only the guitar sound is abit softer but it,s just incredible how close it comes to it.
i woder how supermarioworld sounds like,once converting to vrc7 sound???
I've made a Sega Master YM2413 remix: Thunder Force 4- Metal Squad (Sega Master YM2413 remix)
its like that I was hearing it before
Impressive! Practically identical to the original.
you must be kiddin me yes it is close but not exact.the genesis will always be better in music quality still for a ness pretty damn impressive.
Comparing it to the amazing YM2612 would be unfair, but on it's own, it's a pretty damn good version!
@namo8c I wouldn't go as far as saying this version is better than the original, which still has better electric guitar sound synthesis and also stereo. Still it's very impressive for a NES, even with an additional chip.
0:10 Holy Sh-ARRRRRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
how many games on nes used this chip? i want to hear more of it and is it better then the tg16 it soundchip?.
this is epic but also couse it is aa really good tribute to one of the best sounding games ever.the genesis also could got these encreasments in late 90ths they tought about it but sega killed theyre great console.
nice stuff i'vw still got lagrange point but i don't understand the game it's all japanese.
the only sound the vrc7 chip lacks is the guitar sound,will the genesis soundchip does has a guitar sound programmed in it,s chipset.
but offcource this is still amezing trough.
Holy shit, this sounds almost exactly like the original. I'm amazed.
Is there any other conversions of this type around?
Well, okay.
I honestly had no idea (okay some inkling based on three stooges audio) the game sound engine could sample sound and music this way. IMHO it sounds like 8 bit trying really hard to be real. Still a good attempt to be sure, but I think the charm in 8-bit is in the 'de-make' cover factor.
Too bad, though, that the american release NES cannot (and will not ever) be able to play the original Akumajou Densetsu ost like the famicom.
The high feedback destroys the guitar patch, but other than that it's great!
@singularity3
This is probably the only tune from the game I actually like compared to III's OST. Yes the music sounds alright when you are playing the game but nothing that will get stuck in your head. "Metal Squad" is the ONLY tune that stands out. TF III just had more tunes that were better composed. Just a matter of opinion.
Kyubey plays thunder force.... AWESOME but no contract pls
sounds abit scratchy like a old movie.
Unforunately this is the only good tune in the game, TF III had a MUCH better OST by far but this song stands out as the best of the TF IV (to the kiddies this is known as Lightening force here in the US)
Wow, this sounds bad (terrible). Not the composition, but the instruments. What's that constant buzzing/static in the background?
The instruments are too scratchy and hurt my ears.
Welcome to the 8-to-16-bit era!
Not true.
I've heard far less ear-grating NES tunes.
Chibi Romano Not played by a CRT you haven't!
DracoHandsome Yes I have.
I specifically remember sweating my ass off playing Ninja Gaiden in the attic (which was freaking 90 degrees) in my UNDIES on a CRT TV. XD
Not feeling it. The samples are pretty shit too. pass.
My wife is happy with it.
+TheDemoniusX , you mean Rosie Palms? That's about the only thing that could ever be your wife, so of course "she" could be happy with in your "Forever Alone" living life.
+TheDemoniusX This comment chain gave me cancer
Yeah, and Harry Potter's my favourite Beyblader. Do some research before embarrassing yourself like that.
Oh come on, this is no where near as good as the Mega Drive version. In fact it's pretty terrible.