InuranusBrokoff Speed Phenom has some really good videos with his GT500 with handing package.Plus he owns a 2011 Shelby Super Snake and a 2014 GT350 and a 2020 c8 also.Oh yea he will get his GT350 Track Pack sometime this month.He is a 19 yr old young man that goes to school produces his own videos and many other you tube stars. That’s how he makes his money.Check him out has a lot of track day videos with all the cars at Willow Springs Raceway and Laguna Seca Raceway.
Great job! These cars are INCREDIBLE! The amount of performance, engineering, and usability you get with these cars all wrapped up in a factory warranty are not lost on me. We are at the pinnacle of the internal combustion engine and I am glad I am alive to see and hear these amazing machines especially in the wake of the desire of some to want to electrify everything on 4 wheels. Again well done. So glad I subscribed.
malcolmar @malcomar totally agree. I was fortunate enough to recently purchase a 2018 GT Manual in Australia. I felt that now was the time to get a new NA Manual v8 before they disappear. All my research did not convey what a great street car the GT is. Handling and driver engagement is fantastic.
@@michaeltheodorakis9473 Congrats and enjoy that car. It is not always about the numbers. A great engine combined with a smooth-shifting manual provides a connection between man and machine that is hard to match. If we want our kids to know what these cars are like we must buy them now and maintain them so we can pass them on otherwise they will never know what it is like to truly drive a car and not let it drive you.
malcolmar that’s pretty much the plan. My 14 yo daughter loves the GT and will learn to drive it as it will be hers eventually for all the reasons you pointed out.
Thank you! Exactly what I was looking for. A head to head comparison of the base model vs the track pack on a course. Five seconds difference. I suspected it'd be something like that but it's good to see hard results. Good stuff!
Amazing video Andy...the channel deserves way more subs....(just subbed) Question - how much improvement in the 2:14.77 second time of the base car you anticipate if the PS4S were replaced with cup 2 Rs on the red car with everything else remaining the same? I mean the hot lap difference of 5 seconds, trying to understand how much of that is attributable to the tires alone!
5 second delta btw the two based on tire and ride height. NCM is a tight track for the most part. A delta that large suggests these are cars from different classes. I'd mount a set of 305 19's on sport cup 2' on the base model out of curiosity to see how it'd react.
@@racecar73 I've been looking out the box drag wheels but nothing out the box fits , but forgeline is making some just gt500s but they're gone be way more expensive then I wanted 😶 but I will bite another bullet with this car . But hey besides its drinking habits I've had no complaints . My gt had all kinds of problems never gt350 because those problems scared the crap out of me , my raptor was at Ford more then home , so this was a nervous pick up evey car i got one the 1st of o have problems with but this one none and I expected something.
Will iam it will produce bragging rights for single lap times but in a long race the brakes and tires will begin to show the weight. It is too heavy. The 350R is the best Mustang for road course work.
Had to settle ? Not really. The 5.0 is a great engine. Just put a supercharger on it. Will cost less than the gt500. May not have the overall performance, but a very fun car overall.
@@ryanlett1338 What do U mean?? There is no punch for punch here, the Caaro ZL1 is a great car, the GT500 has already cracked the 1:56.30 www.fordgt500.com/threads/vir-lap-times-2020-gt500-vs-c8-vette.191721/ For ur referance the best ZL1 lLE lap time so far is a 1:57.77 by professional race driver Kramer and the best 2019 ZR1 lap time so far is a 1:54.46 again by professional race driver. So what sits in Chevys line up between ZR1 and Zl1 1LE?? Well its the Corvette Z7 Z06 and that is the GT500s true rival. Not bad considering the GT500 is a 4000+ lbs machine
Great review! You have to give Ford lots of credit for this car and the 350 GT. Even more considering the price sure the interior of these cars leave something to be desired because many cars in the same price range offer more as a whole. Still when you look at what these cars can do it’s a bargain. Personally I’m not a big person on the different modes, digital dash,etc . More of a analog guy.
Great review as always from someone who can take these cars to the limit. Why, though, is this generation of Mustang so porky? (4,000 lbs is a lot even with that big engine in the car). And I wish the back seats were more usable. Sat in a 4 cylinder at the dealer and my small kids couldn’t fit behind me! I recall driving my buddy’s ‘67 Coupe in high school and having four of us in the car comfortably.
Also do note that the Shelby GT350R did a 2:13.6 around the track again faster than the GT500, so the base GT500 is more of a straight line monster and an incredible every driver powerhouse which is very capable, the GT500 Carbon fiber track pack is the hardcore one, and that too just did a 2:09.40 again a great lap still not as fast as I expected all down to the bonkers 4000+ lbs its carrying, I think the ZL1 1LE wud be at least as quick as the GT500 with 100 less HP. And nothing beats the Porsche 911 GT3 RS, simple Naturally Aspirated 9000 rpm singing flat6 and yet did a 2:04.xx faster than the 19 ZR1s 2:07.45, now thats engineering masterpiece that US still has a long way to go. The C8 Corvette Grand Sport is the best chance, hope GM steps up with the C8 GS
Tires have nothing to do with the time when there is over 300 horsepower difference. That simply implies the Camaro is a far superior platform. It's a Camaro had equivalent power it probably be about a 10 second difference against the Mustang
The gt500 base model set up more for drag racing. Runs 10.6 133 from the factory. The 1 LE is completely built for the track. Not sure why you would compare them. A comparable would be the non super charged gt350/350r with similar weight and hp built for the track. I’m sure you will find they also have similar times. The gt500 track pack should be compared to other track cars in the 80k-90k range and see where it falls. The ss1le should be compared to track cars in the 50k-60k and I’m sure it does very well. If you want to use mustang or camaro on the track you should obviously get the track option.
I really like these cars, but I can't warm up to that engine note. JMO, sorry. Also, these things look heavy as hell. I know they aren't insanely heavy, but they are portly and all that weight seems to work against everything the engineers tried to make world-class.
The thing about the Mustang, is that it starts as a $25,000 economy car. Ford has the GT as their ultimate expression of aerodynamics, weight reduction, and track prowess. The Mustang is a pony car which has true track chops in the form of the GT350 and GT500s. The usability of the Mustang is one of it's advantages.
I'm amused to hear that the GT500 was used on the track. Pretty much everybody knows this is a quarter-mile sled. Trying to muscle this thing around a track does not sound like fun. I imagine the tires and the brakes probably give up the ghost around the 8th lap or so. The Corvette is a much better option if you really intend to track a car.
@@CoyoteFTW It beat the GT3, not the RS. You can see the whole table of lap times and video's of over 30 cars I've tested at www.proracerstake.com. .. The site only went live a few weeks ago for easier reference and comparo, cheers
@@bob-qi4nr True but the Ford GT was not a top model and was just being used for the afternoon to diagnose an issue with a different car, they set the record accidentally with only 3 Ford employees there. The ZR1 was being driven for days at the track with a full crew trying to get the best times. The 2 cars are very fast and pretty close in performance but there's no doubt a Ford team with a full day and comp series car would set the record again
Great but so darn expensive! The plain GT is better overall value and half the price and almost same performance or better based on options and mods after purchase.
Look any gt variation WONT touch the gt500 in any way or form doesnt matter a bullit or a pp2 the GT500 matches a gt3 rs witch none of the normal gts cant even dream of
@@xj_220 - Yes you’re right the GT500 has much more power then a standard GT. It should since it’ costs about $100,000 with the Track Pack option. Heck the painted stripes cost $10,000! But the question of value is subjective and the value of 3.5 seconds to 60 for a GT500 vs. 3.9 for a GT with the 10 speed is also subjective. Fun is also relative and some people love their cheap used Miata as much as a GT500 or Corvette. Do you really get what you pay for? It’s all a matter of opinion and everyone has an opinion!😊👍🏻
What about the zr1? Ford's ultimate creation already overshadowed by the c8. When those variants come its over and you know it. A ton of power is great but efficiency is horrible.
Both are still Ford Mustang dogs where you have to Add & Add $$$$$. Not so with the Chevy Camaro ZL1-LE out the showroom stock no adding $$$$$ still can't beat for less..
Richard Shelton no unfortunately it sells like shit but why buy a camaro when you can buy a corvette? Camaro is gonna get shut down again, they should of put effort in the refresh of the 6th gen instead of those god awful head lights in the front.
Great review.Thanks. I've had mine for about 6 months now and whether on the road around town or out on Sears Point Raceway it's a fantastically fun car to drive. Drinks gas fast that's for sure. cheers.
Best GT500 video on the internet. Great job
Right? Crazy it took this long for someone to put out a worthwhile video of this thing.
Fuck yeah lap times, 0-60mph 1/4 mile times, price, engines noises, differences and overall quality. We deserve this video!
InuranusBrokoff Speed Phenom has some really good videos with his GT500 with handing package.Plus he owns a 2011 Shelby Super Snake and a 2014 GT350 and a 2020 c8 also.Oh yea he will get his GT350 Track Pack sometime this month.He is a 19 yr old young man that goes to school produces his own videos and many other you tube stars. That’s how he makes his money.Check him out has a lot of track day videos with all the cars at Willow Springs Raceway and Laguna Seca Raceway.
Great job! These cars are INCREDIBLE! The amount of performance, engineering, and usability you get with these cars all wrapped up in a factory warranty are not lost on me. We are at the pinnacle of the internal combustion engine and I am glad I am alive to see and hear these amazing machines especially in the wake of the desire of some to want to electrify everything on 4 wheels. Again well done. So glad I subscribed.
malcolmar @malcomar totally agree. I was fortunate enough to recently purchase a 2018 GT Manual in Australia. I felt that now was the time to get a new NA Manual v8 before they disappear. All my research did not convey what a great street car the GT is. Handling and driver engagement is fantastic.
@@michaeltheodorakis9473 Congrats and enjoy that car. It is not always about the numbers. A great engine combined with a smooth-shifting manual provides a connection between man and machine that is hard to match. If we want our kids to know what these cars are like we must buy them now and maintain them so we can pass them on otherwise they will never know what it is like to truly drive a car and not let it drive you.
malcolmar that’s pretty much the plan. My 14 yo daughter loves the GT and will learn to drive it as it will be hers eventually for all the reasons you pointed out.
@@michaeltheodorakis9473 - Yes I also own a Mustang GT and it’s a lot of fun to drive.
Best Video recap of the GT500!!! Love it!
Agreed. WLM BTW.
I did a track day at NCM MSP a few weeks ago in my Boss 302. NCM is a spectacular race track, it just blew away myexpectations.
Great video! I think those sound amazing; it is probably my favorite balance of supercharger and exhaust noise.
I had to cancel my invite to the July 8 Shelby GT500 track tour in Joliet. But viewing this video is a nice consolation prize.
Ohhh myyyy. Superb driving. Wow. What an excellent video!!! You really pushed those GT500s. That’s where they belong. On track.
Great review!!!! Succinct yet entertaining and full of knowledge the entire time. Awesome driving !
They do sound amazing
Thank you! Exactly what I was looking for. A head to head comparison of the base model vs the track pack on a course. Five seconds difference. I suspected it'd be something like that but it's good to see hard results. Good stuff!
Andy did i just see you beating a porsche gt3 with a mustang?? so talented
Best video on the 500 I’ve seen! Thanks
Excellent! Just excellent! What fun! I can't wait until Andy tests the new C8 Z06, and compairs it against the GT500 w/ the Track Pack!
Amazing video Andy...the channel deserves way more subs....(just subbed)
Question - how much improvement in the 2:14.77 second time of the base car you anticipate if the PS4S were replaced with cup 2 Rs on the red car with everything else remaining the same?
I mean the hot lap difference of 5 seconds, trying to understand how much of that is attributable to the tires alone!
5 second delta btw the two based on tire and ride height. NCM is a tight track for the most part. A delta that large suggests these are cars from different classes. I'd mount a set of 305 19's on sport cup 2' on the base model out of curiosity to see how it'd react.
19" wheels will not fit over the front brakes - they are enormous!
weight reduction, aero, spring rate, likely alignment...... much more than tires and ride height
@@racecar73 I've been looking out the box drag wheels but nothing out the box fits , but forgeline is making some just gt500s but they're gone be way more expensive then I wanted 😶 but I will bite another bullet with this car . But hey besides its drinking habits I've had no complaints . My gt had all kinds of problems never gt350 because those problems scared the crap out of me , my raptor was at Ford more then home , so this was a nervous pick up evey car i got one the 1st of o have problems with but this one none and I expected something.
Fantastic video. Fantastic driving and 2- Fantastic Shelby GT500 Mustangs. The CFTP is a track Monster Super Car.
Great job! That was AWESOME!
I was content with my 2018 GT350...until I watched this video.
Phillip Jones , 350 sounds better imo. 🤙🏻
Great post! I love this car. Wish I had one!
Please do a pro racers take on 2020 gt350r n gt350 on track n 1/4 mile
You can find both at the www.proracerstake.com website mate, minus quarter, as I only recently started doing that, cheers...
Would you please also test the Corvette C8 Z51 and the Camaro ZL1. Great show.👍
The GT500 can do 10.6s in the quarter mile but depending on the surface.
Would the predator engine work on gt350r n gt350 with manual stick
Yes, ua-cam.com/video/rbvRlT5U5Go/v-deo.html
@@mcfast52 would the predator engine with manual stick perform better than vodoo engine on gt350r n gt350?
@@jesusm2159 I think so!
How long is the track
SOLID!
Excellent review
Sound awesome! Good car but a little bit on the heavy side.
Will iam inconsequential to a road course car. Yes very fast in the muscle car segment that the car competes in.
Will iam it will produce bragging rights for single lap times but in a long race the brakes and tires will begin to show the weight. It is too heavy. The 350R is the best Mustang for road course work.
Had to settle for the baby 5.0 wish I could afford one of these monsters :( someday soon I hope!
Had to settle ? Not really. The 5.0 is a great engine. Just put a supercharger on it. Will cost less than the gt500. May not have the overall performance, but a very fun car overall.
@@johnt6673 Tick tick tick tick.
john T that is until he put the gt500 bumper on it lmaoooo ppl go crazy on they 5.0s
This is a track monster. Excited to see what Chevy does in response.
As long as you have the budget to keep it on track. Gets mighty expensive being so heavy and consuming tires and brakes like they’re candy.
The Corvette ZR1 has done a 2:07.45 with some driver errors, I guess a 2:06.50 is possible with 2019 ZR1
Camaro ZL1 already goes punch for punch with the GT500
@@ryanlett1338 What do U mean??
There is no punch for punch here, the Caaro ZL1 is a great car, the GT500 has already cracked the 1:56.30
www.fordgt500.com/threads/vir-lap-times-2020-gt500-vs-c8-vette.191721/
For ur referance the best ZL1 lLE lap time so far is a 1:57.77 by professional race driver Kramer and the best 2019 ZR1 lap time so far is a 1:54.46 again by professional race driver. So what sits in Chevys line up between ZR1 and Zl1 1LE??
Well its the Corvette Z7 Z06 and that is the GT500s true rival. Not bad considering the GT500 is a 4000+ lbs machine
Ryan Lett I have owned 3 2017+ ZL1’s. No they don’t
Great review! You have to give Ford lots of credit for this car and the 350 GT. Even more considering the price sure the interior of these cars leave something to be desired because many cars in the same price range offer more as a whole. Still when you look at what these cars can do it’s a bargain. Personally I’m not a big person on the different modes, digital dash,etc . More of a analog guy.
Excellent review!!
maybe explain what the difference between the two cars is at the beginning of the video...
You should try a Ford GT
@ 9:40 lol the side skirt is their to aid air flow down the side not rocks unless I'm missing the humor...
Does this car have the handling package? If so did you set the Track Adjustable Strut top mounts?
If you go back to 8:20 he talks about camber plates. Those are the adjustable strut mounts you are talking about.
Great review as always from someone who can take these cars to the limit. Why, though, is this generation of Mustang so porky? (4,000 lbs is a lot even with that big engine in the car). And I wish the back seats were more usable. Sat in a 4 cylinder at the dealer and my small kids couldn’t fit behind me! I recall driving my buddy’s ‘67 Coupe in high school and having four of us in the car comfortably.
Wow u r great driver 👍😎
Sure would like to see a Camaro ZL1 1LE ripped around the track!
i've seen someone in one with a manual run a 2:13 flat. i'm sure an automatic with a pro could get a 2:10.5 to 2:11.5 easily.
Wil_Leighton Unlike the ZL1 1LE the GT500 will not beat the 💩 out of you on the street.
@@_hashtag yea, the ZL1 1LE is pretty harsh for road driving.
It would break down mid lap! LOL
Been trying to get one for months, still hoping...
The good stuff happens at around 13:00
Still prefer my gt350. Still love the wtf looks when it screams by other cars with valves open on kooks long tubes
GT350 is a great car, but the GT500 is better in every single way except there is no manual transmission option.
سوبر كار قوية وسعرها مناسب 💪💪💪💪⚡⚡🚀✈️
Oh not only did I consider it, Ibought one 🥰
You should start the video telling us what the difference between the orange and red cars are
The fastest of the pony cars. GT500 is king.
Base GT500 with 760hp is barely a second faster than a 460hp SS1LE? Goes to show - chassis and balance is everything.
Tires play a big role. PS4S on the GT500 compared to Eagle F1 Supercar 3's on the 1LE.
Also do note that the Shelby GT350R did a 2:13.6 around the track again faster than the GT500, so the base GT500 is more of a straight line monster and an incredible every driver powerhouse which is very capable, the GT500 Carbon fiber track pack is the hardcore one, and that too just did a 2:09.40 again a great lap still not as fast as I expected all down to the bonkers 4000+ lbs its carrying, I think the ZL1 1LE wud be at least as quick as the GT500 with 100 less HP.
And nothing beats the Porsche 911 GT3 RS, simple Naturally Aspirated 9000 rpm singing flat6 and yet did a 2:04.xx faster than the 19 ZR1s 2:07.45, now thats engineering masterpiece that US still has a long way to go. The C8 Corvette Grand Sport is the best chance, hope GM steps up with the C8 GS
Ponygt 662 which is to be expected that’s what the gt500 is. Speed
Tires have nothing to do with the time when there is over 300 horsepower difference. That simply implies the Camaro is a far superior platform. It's a Camaro had equivalent power it probably be about a 10 second difference against the Mustang
The gt500 base model set up more for drag racing. Runs 10.6 133 from the factory. The 1 LE is completely built for the track. Not sure why you would compare them. A comparable would be the non super charged gt350/350r with similar weight and hp built for the track. I’m sure you will find they also have similar times. The gt500 track pack should be compared to other track cars in the 80k-90k range and see where it falls. The ss1le should be compared to track cars in the 50k-60k and I’m sure it does very well. If you want to use mustang or camaro on the track you should obviously get the track option.
I really like these cars, but I can't warm up to that engine note. JMO, sorry. Also, these things look heavy as hell. I know they aren't insanely heavy, but they are portly and all that weight seems to work against everything the engineers tried to make world-class.
The thing about the Mustang, is that it starts as a $25,000 economy car. Ford has the GT as their ultimate expression of aerodynamics, weight reduction, and track prowess. The Mustang is a pony car which has true track chops in the form of the GT350 and GT500s. The usability of the Mustang is one of it's advantages.
I'm amused to hear that the GT500 was used on the track. Pretty much everybody knows this is a quarter-mile sled. Trying to muscle this thing around a track does not sound like fun. I imagine the tires and the brakes probably give up the ghost around the 8th lap or so. The Corvette is a much better option if you really intend to track a car.
This is a more than capable track car.
You could not be more wrong. This car tied with a Porsche GT3RS. It’s a great track machine.
@@CoyoteFTW It beat the GT3, not the RS. You can see the whole table of lap times and video's of over 30 cars I've tested at www.proracerstake.com. .. The site only went live a few weeks ago for easier reference and comparo, cheers
Andy Pilgrim - Right, Randy Pobst ran both the GT3RS and the GT500CFTP; which ended in a virtual tie
what kind of accent is this?
He is from the UK been in the states for 30 plus years.
ZR1 put down better lap time than GT500 even with OnStar calling 😂
Maybe but the GT 40 would kill it..
jasin butler I highly doubt a 60 year old car could stand a chance to any ZR1 😂
@@MrGrim2u1987 2019 ZR1 already beat the 2019 ford gt best time at VIR.
@@bob-qi4nr True but the Ford GT was not a top model and was just being used for the afternoon to diagnose an issue with a different car, they set the record accidentally with only 3 Ford employees there. The ZR1 was being driven for days at the track with a full crew trying to get the best times. The 2 cars are very fast and pretty close in performance but there's no doubt a Ford team with a full day and comp series car would set the record again
@@chadingram6390 Yah, Heard the story before. Just an excuse from a ford fanboy.
So stupid, rear seat delete on the track pack but yet has a big heavy unnecessary sub woofer in the track as an added option lol
Great but so darn expensive! The plain GT is better overall value and half the price and almost same performance or better based on options and mods after purchase.
Bullit owner? Awesome
Look any gt variation WONT touch the gt500 in any way or form doesnt matter a bullit or a pp2 the GT500 matches a gt3 rs witch none of the normal gts cant even dream of
@@xj_220 - Yes you’re right the GT500 has much more power then a standard GT. It should since it’ costs about $100,000 with the Track Pack option. Heck the painted stripes cost $10,000! But the question of value is subjective and the value of 3.5 seconds to 60 for a GT500 vs. 3.9 for a GT with the 10 speed is also subjective. Fun is also relative and some people love their cheap used Miata as much as a GT500 or Corvette. Do you really get what you pay for? It’s all a matter of opinion and everyone has an opinion!😊👍🏻
@@rembo183 agreed
The GT500 weighs almost as much as my pickup truck. That can't be a good thing.
6 inter coolers, DCT, and huge brakes all add extra weight.
First/1st
this will DESTROY the tugboat super stock fatcat on the TRACK!!and the zl1,1le from Garbage Motors!
What about the zr1? Ford's ultimate creation already overshadowed by the c8. When those variants come its over and you know it. A ton of power is great but efficiency is horrible.
John Lukach - Fords ultimate creation is the Ford GT MK2
@@johnlukach4091 The base 2020 GT500 smokes the C8. Chevy sucks!
@@johnlukach4091 the c8 from Garbage Motors came out after the FORD GT
@@Drako_93550 and the c8 looks like shit
WOW it only weighs over 2 tons lol
Kjokooo pool p pli
Please get a ZL1 1LE on here and destroy that gt500!
Piss off, your DEAD!!🤯
bigkiwial ;)
The only thing is destroying is the owner's wallet for repairs!! LOL
They really lost the 1970 retro design. The new ones are too big and are uglier than the early retro versions. Too bad.
Both are still Ford Mustang dogs where you have to Add & Add $$$$$. Not so with the Chevy Camaro ZL1-LE out the showroom stock no adding $$$$$ still can't beat for less..
Is that why the Camaro sells so well? Yeah I didn’t think so.
2:09
@@reshelby4178 With all Fords you have to Add $$$ to bring it up than standard or and option from the Build for less with GM.
Richard Shelton no unfortunately it sells like shit but why buy a camaro when you can buy a corvette? Camaro is gonna get shut down again, they should of put effort in the refresh of the 6th gen instead of those god awful head lights in the front.
What do you have add after market $ on with a GT500 or a GT350 to make them go?
Great review.Thanks. I've had mine for about 6 months now and whether on the road around town or out on Sears Point Raceway it's a fantastically fun car to drive. Drinks gas fast that's for sure. cheers.