Let's recreate the greatest German drumkit!

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  • Опубліковано 27 гру 2024

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  • @kevinsiebecker5179
    @kevinsiebecker5179 15 годин тому

    Indeed, the Sonor Signature Special Edition kit…12-ply Maple shells with Bubinga inner and outer plies. The series was introduced in 1992 and was around for only a few years. Todd Sucherman played a Sonor Signature Special Edition kit on the Styx 1996 tour - he still has it.

  • @rkaylor5769
    @rkaylor5769 Рік тому +10

    As a Sonor owner, so glad you did this.

  • @TECHASKI1
    @TECHASKI1 Рік тому +2

    My first set was a Sonor "Swinger" in 1972. I have only the 16" tom. Now I most use three Sonor Steel snares.

  • @ArneSuter
    @ArneSuter Рік тому +3

    Eine ganz hervorragende Arbeit! Respekt. Man kann Eure Zuneigung zu SONOR!i deutlich spüren.
    Ihr habt auch bei vielen meiner Sonor-Restaurationen hervorragende Leistungen gezeigt. Sehr empfehlenswert!
    Topp
    Gruss Arne Suter!i

  • @jezzalexander
    @jezzalexander 25 днів тому

    I'm a big fan of "repair/refurbish" and I love what you've done here. End result could be viewed as expensive for a 'used' kit but having just put together a couple of sets without much overall knowledge or expertise, resulting in a lot of incremental trial and error purchases, I'd say the price is worth that standard of refurbishment. Salutes.

  • @mightyV444
    @mightyV444 Рік тому

    Very cool conversion! 🤩👍 And I had several of the Sonor brochures shown in this channel's videos as a teenager and a big poster of the image with the Signature kit at 0:44 on my wall 😊

  • @omar65able
    @omar65able 7 місяців тому

    I've purchased a lot of stuff from ST drums! I have always been satisfied. Great work on the Sonor drums!

  • @kevinturner5857
    @kevinturner5857 Рік тому +1

    Love Sonor , iv got a Prolite in Tribal Red , superb kit 👌

  • @RyoCanCan
    @RyoCanCan 11 місяців тому

    Oh man that's so tasty. Truly shows how passionate you are about this. Can't wait to order some stuff from you!

    • @stdrumsgmbh
      @stdrumsgmbh  11 місяців тому +1

      thanks a lot for the nice comments! We are looking forward to the order :)

  • @Stonemetal3
    @Stonemetal3 Рік тому +2

    Cool project and great video! I really love your sense of humour, and the german/english speaking voice with the small but delightful pronunciation problems. Beer/bear

  • @seppoinnanen5577
    @seppoinnanen5577 Рік тому +1

    A pleasure to watch this clip from my favorite drum parts seller. And especially as Sonorlite and Phonic owner, this was very interesting

  • @IononesRoomfulofDrumsStudio

    I’m a proud owner of a humble Sonor Force 2001 kit. I customized it a little bit with some additional tom mounts and a floor tom from Pearl. I bought it in early 2002. I still play and record with it to this day.❤

  • @DICARLOPRODUCTIONS
    @DICARLOPRODUCTIONS Рік тому

    AMA ZING!!!! I have an original 80´s Sonor Lite kit sizes 10", 12", 13", 14" rack toms, 16" floor tom, and 22" bass drum. I had all Signature stands. 2 x double tom stands, snare stand, 3 x semi boom cymbal stands, and 1 x boom cymbal stand. I still have 1 x of the double tom stands, but sold all the others for around 1800€. I still have ALL the drums. They sound amazing. Especially in the recording studio. i´m now a proud Pearl/Zildjian endorser, and own a 7 piece Masters kit, and a 5 piece Crystal Beat kit. :)

  • @rodrigoaquino6471
    @rodrigoaquino6471 Рік тому +2

  • @doublestrokeroll
    @doublestrokeroll 3 місяці тому

    I had a set of beech performers. It's kind of cool to think there was a time when sonor's "budget" line was basically the exact same thing as the Phonics but 6 ply instead of 9. And what's even more interesting, in my opinion anyway, is that the performers actually kind of aged better than the phonics as the thinner shells on the toms are closer to a modern sound. Incredible drums if you can find them.

  • @chrish7336
    @chrish7336 9 місяців тому

    1:50- The Gold Satin, it definitely was a German look and had the same appearance as another German designed Drum company. Gretsch. These Satin Flame covers were found on Gretsch in Blue, white, Aqua, Yellow, Green, etc.

    • @stdrumsgmbh
      @stdrumsgmbh  9 місяців тому

      yes, these satin colors are really cool! We also sold quite a few of these wraps in the 90s, however they are scratched pretty easily unfortunately

  • @johncollins5552
    @johncollins5552 Рік тому

    Great video informative.
    I bought an old teardrop beech 3 piece with the 20 bass drum 13 by7 tom and 16 by 15 floor that was rewrapped years ago in a gold sparkle in France I am told by the session drummer I bought it from.

    • @johncollins5552
      @johncollins5552 Рік тому

      All with internal dampers. No matching snare yet!

  • @honourisdrumming
    @honourisdrumming Рік тому +1

    My first kit was a beech shell Performer-great set! I now own an original Signature kit and I’d never sell it! Great video guys

  • @MichaelWashingtonAE
    @MichaelWashingtonAE Рік тому +1

    Veeeerrry loooonnng lol! The late 1980's/early 1990's ha!! I grew up on the drum catalogs from this era (the power Tom era) in middle school through the late 90's after high school.

  • @analogkid4557
    @analogkid4557 Рік тому

    I remember those drums from the 80's. I am a Yamaha guy but if I wasn't, that was the set I would want.

  • @mediumstudio
    @mediumstudio Рік тому

    Sonorlites were one the best drumkit lines ever created. And the bass drums legs are a masterpiece of design.

  • @andreasbreitwieser1449
    @andreasbreitwieser1449 Рік тому +1

    tolles Video, mehr davon, wie ihr individuelle Wünsche umsetzt, das inspiriert die anderen und erweitert den Horizont. Immer wieder gibt es neue Details und Möglichkeiten, auf die man in unserer standardisierten Welt nicht kommt.

  • @NUp-rl3bz
    @NUp-rl3bz 5 місяців тому

    No sir from now on it is and will be 🍺 ing edges . This decree has been announced by the king of Texas me . Matthew Alan Kitchens who might I add is of German descent on my good side . Cool video cool drums . Great dry german humor and edit was so fluid. Nice. Job to all involved.

    • @stdrumsgmbh
      @stdrumsgmbh  5 місяців тому

      🤣🤣🍻 thanks a lot for the nice comment! It is an honor to get this type of positive feedback from the king of Texas 😁

  • @williamweiss6128
    @williamweiss6128 9 місяців тому

    Love those older kits.

  • @schlagzeugvideocoach
    @schlagzeugvideocoach Рік тому

    Wow, super Video - sehr interessant und unterhaltsam! Danke und weiterhin Viel Erfolg! Bier! 😜 LG, Jochen

  • @MichaelWashingtonAE
    @MichaelWashingtonAE Рік тому +1

    I don't know how I got here (from a Ludwig drums artist) but awesome video!! I have a Sonor Force 3005 series kit, the Jungle Kit. I was once heavily considering investing in another Sonor kit. Great info to have

  • @goodwill559
    @goodwill559 Рік тому

    Amazing work and great history lesson !

  • @tomkelsey2303
    @tomkelsey2303 Рік тому

    I have a first-gen Sonor S-class that I will never sell. Beautiful cherry Scandi veneer.

  • @brockmannolaf7182
    @brockmannolaf7182 Рік тому

    Großartige Geschichte!
    Aber ich habe mich schon immer gefragt, wer eigentlich diese monsterschweren riesigen Original Signature-Drums spielen will. Sicher nicht der tourende Freelancer 😂 Mit dem Quirly-Bubinga-Furnier trotzdem ein sehr chices Möbelstück!
    Vielen Dank für das tolle Video!
    Bier-Ring-Ätsches! 🍺 Prost!

  • @StirfriedGerman
    @StirfriedGerman Рік тому +1

    I bought a new Bubinga Heavy 12/13/16/22 kit with hardcases and the 14*8 chrome snare in 1985. Great drums but too high and heavy to take on a gig or for recordings. I traded them for a Designer + Euro in the early 2000s and later got a DW collector although I kept the Signature Snare. DW hardware is cheap in comparison to Sonor and ages fast. But the whole DW kit weighs about the same as just the Signature Heavy 22" kick drum 😂 Currently enjoying a Tama Hyperdrive.

  • @dave_sanderson
    @dave_sanderson Рік тому +1

    This is awesome stuff! ❤️😎

  • @rolandedrummer9723
    @rolandedrummer9723 Рік тому

    I've always wanted a Phonic series kit. Probably because that's what Steve Smith played at one point.

  • @evilhubert
    @evilhubert 6 місяців тому

    Klingt viehisch, super Arbeit!

  • @dugjay
    @dugjay Рік тому

    This is a beautiful kit! I've always liked the Signature and Phonics set but the prices that I've seen on some websites have been a bit high for my liking. This would make a great alternative if you want that nice finish and sound of Sonor!

  • @doeni2
    @doeni2 Рік тому

    Super Arbeit!

  • @cpt.peters
    @cpt.peters Рік тому

    Klasse! Wieder ein Grund mehr, mal wieder einen Kessel/Set von euch "bearbeiten" zu lassen.

  • @MadCritter
    @MadCritter Рік тому

    Excellent video! Seriously great stuff, you deserve more subscribers! And don’t feel bad about pronunciation, I know for sure that couldn’t pronounce a lot of German words, and I definitely can’t speak German as well as you can speak English!

  • @Svensson1971
    @Svensson1971 11 місяців тому

    Lets talk about BIERing edges! …STdrums does fantastic work by the way as always💪🏼

  • @ESHLOH
    @ESHLOH Рік тому +1

    great job my respect

  • @joeywaters7927
    @joeywaters7927 8 місяців тому

    I’ve been collecting Phonic and Phonic Plus ‘orphan’ drums for a couple of years and refinishing them all to resemble the ebony finish.
    Can anyone comment on the sound difference from the Phonic Plus to the Signature Heavy Beech?

  • @ruifaustino
    @ruifaustino Рік тому +2

    Great job, beautiful drums. It would be interesting to hear how historically the 18" became the 16" deep size. Personally, I like the sound of the 18x14", the 18x15" has some extra volume and low end, but the 18x16" ends up being too loud for a bop kit, and too small for a rock set. It's a special sound, but problematic in terms of tuning range and definition. Steve Gadd in Ricky Beato's interview shared some insights about bass drum depth. It's a theme which people don't talk much about.

  • @chrish7336
    @chrish7336 9 місяців тому

    17:38- It's to bad you couldn't have reproduced these mufflers. Drums today don't have these and in my opinion made a great addition. With a change in music style in a single performance, you could change the sound of the drum using these. For the Gretsch drums they were called tone controls, but were really just muffles for the heads.

    • @stdrumsgmbh
      @stdrumsgmbh  9 місяців тому

      thanks for the comment! Many sets on the used market have the mufflers removed because people use them I guess, so if you want to restore a kit with the original mufflers, they can be quite pricey now. As far as I know the original signatures had these external mufflers that were clipped to the hoops and muffled the head from outside. Theoretically they could also be added to this performer set 😁

    • @chrish7336
      @chrish7336 9 місяців тому +1

      @@stdrumsgmbh I have heard that Kits were being manufactured without them any more because the hardware supposedly reduced the sound of the drums as well as added rattles as they wore out/loosened.
      Plus, drummers were finding other ways to muffle the heads that were cheaper even if not as good lookin. Also didn't allow flexibility of different music styles.
      I will agree, the cost to replace any of them any more is high.

  • @demusicworld
    @demusicworld Рік тому

    BEAUTIFUL JOB!!!,.. CONGRATS!!!

  • @macschomo
    @macschomo Рік тому +2

    Seid ihr verrückt? Bei DW würde man das dreifache zahlen. Eure drums sind der Hammer, ich habe selber eines. Sonor drums sind auch Top Schlagzeuge. Aber das Set ist anbetracht eurer Arbeit geradezu verschenkt. Ich hoffe ihr habt es sofort verkauft, sprich an jemanden, der das schätzen kann was ihr da zaubert.

    • @stdrumsgmbh
      @stdrumsgmbh  Рік тому +1

      Vielen Dank für den lieben Kommentar! Wir haben das Set noch nicht verkauft, wir brauchen es noch um Part 2 zu drehen 😅 aber wir hoffen natürlich, dass es danach einen glücklichen Abnehmer finden wird

  • @joachimserra1066
    @joachimserra1066 6 місяців тому

    Habt ihr auch die Sonor-action-Serie mal in der Mache gehabt? (ca.1978/79) War mein erstes Drumset ...

    • @stdrumsgmbh
      @stdrumsgmbh  6 місяців тому

      wir haben hin und wieder mal welche für Ersatzteile ausgeschlachtet, aber so eine Restaurierung haben wir bei Action eher weniger gemacht. Vor kurzem haben wir allerdings ein Sonor Swinger foliert, was ja ähnliche Lugs hat

  • @ytwhite5930
    @ytwhite5930 Рік тому +1

    Great video! I have one piece of SONOR gear, a boom cymbal stand,it is h-e-a-v-y! Now I understand why...I have a new respect for SONOR drums.

  • @renoroger1
    @renoroger1 Рік тому

    amazing work!!

  • @jazzhole8208
    @jazzhole8208 10 місяців тому

    ❤ danke 🙏🥁🔥

  • @WolfgangHeisel-g7k
    @WolfgangHeisel-g7k 6 місяців тому

    The Horst link sounds great, but who will use it hard on stage with all the live dings and dongs ?

  • @jackfino7136
    @jackfino7136 Рік тому +1

    Should have stayed with both 22 bass drums for a Steve Smith vibe 🥁

  • @grandcrappy
    @grandcrappy Рік тому

    Hell Sonic Plus drums shells sound as good as those costing thousands more, without the bling. I'm all in.

    • @stdrumsgmbh
      @stdrumsgmbh  Рік тому

      thanks for the comment! Sonic series got great shells aswell, however the hardware is not regarded as so great. We got quite a few emails from customers who asked us for replacement FT-legs and BD-spurs for these Sonic drums. Also the used Performer drums are not expensive in Germany - probably the same price category as Sonic Plus on the used market

    • @grandcrappy
      @grandcrappy Рік тому

      @stdrumsgmbh noted. My Sonic Plus are "industrial. strength", overbuolt. I like the bright, aggressive punch with quick decay, slightly harsher sound than warm maple.

  • @mattisujubisu2222
    @mattisujubisu2222 8 місяців тому

    Sehr schön - aber ich liebe mein Original-Signature😬

  • @robertredford4332
    @robertredford4332 Рік тому

    beautiful and funny :)

  • @TheMadDogsRock
    @TheMadDogsRock Рік тому

    👍👍👍

  • @danolease
    @danolease Рік тому +1

    Didn't the veneer add to the OD of the drums? How did you compensate for that?

    • @stdrumsgmbh
      @stdrumsgmbh  Рік тому

      we removed the old wraps which decreased the diameter and the veneers are very thin (way thinner than the ply layers on a shell, and even thinner than most drumwrap), so there was no need to compensate really. Sonor shells are a bit smaller anyways, and the lugs got movable inserts, so I would say up to 1mm additional OD should be no problem.

  • @richiecomia3696
    @richiecomia3696 6 місяців тому

    I liked "beering edges" better 😅😅🍻🍺

  • @ProDrummer
    @ProDrummer Рік тому +1

    Wer isn die süße Drummerin am Ende des Videos?

  • @rogerwelsh2335
    @rogerwelsh2335 Рік тому +1

    19% sales tax!!!
    Omg, I almost chocked!
    The next day someone tells you about countries that have free health care, guaranteed employment, etc…
    Tell them they will have to pay 19% sales tax

    • @stdrumsgmbh
      @stdrumsgmbh  Рік тому +1

      😅 compared to the rest of europe, 19% in Germany is actually on the lower side. If you order from outside of the EU, we will not charge any sales tax though, but it will go through customs in your country

  • @stephentyler4352
    @stephentyler4352 Рік тому +1

    This sounds like Benny Greb’s voice.

    • @stdrumsgmbh
      @stdrumsgmbh  Рік тому +2

      😁thanks for the comment! it's not him though - similar german accent but a different person. But of course we would be open for a Benny Greb appearance in our videos 😂

  • @zendean5207
    @zendean5207 Рік тому

    Love this channel!

  • @PatrickBuzoDrums
    @PatrickBuzoDrums 7 місяців тому

    haha, Prost!

  • @stickybandit2346
    @stickybandit2346 11 місяців тому

    Not sure why someone would pay that much for cheap poplar drums, no matter how nice they look.

    • @stdrumsgmbh
      @stdrumsgmbh  11 місяців тому

      well actually these are 6ply beechwood shells - only the 10" and 14" were poplar in this kit

  • @HuckFinn212
    @HuckFinn212 Рік тому

    Guudes Englisch fer än Pälzer - Reschpekt!

  • @toddcooper5781
    @toddcooper5781 Рік тому +1

    Sonor drums are for German millionaires and not even possible for an American drummer’s budget.

    • @Fury5.010r
      @Fury5.010r Рік тому +1

      I am an American and an original Signature bubinga owner.

    • @richiecomia3696
      @richiecomia3696 6 місяців тому +1

      I'm American, and I own a Sonor kit. 😊

  • @joeykahi4823
    @joeykahi4823 Рік тому

    Oh dear me they haven't woken up..this is how not to stack your kit..rim on skin rim on skin..

  • @DG-sf9ei
    @DG-sf9ei 9 місяців тому

    Are you aware????.... that the rack tom's lower shell edge is right on top of the snare stand and with no lower structural support of that drum's shell (since it's an open concert tom- no hoop/head) will cause that drum shell to warp(even possibly crack or weaken) just from playing it in this position. You claim to have wisdom in buying drums, and from another drummer who's played and collected for nearly a 1/2 Century - I'd think twice about buying it or anything else from you. That's something you'd see someone who's oblivious to maintaining a drum set would engage in, and from anyone who's ever dealt with buying drums that have a warped or weakened shell.......I won't even go there

    • @stdrumsgmbh
      @stdrumsgmbh  9 місяців тому +1

      The video was uploaded 11 months ago and is 24 minutes long - at least give us the timestamp of the drum you are talking about, I am not aware of a concert tom on a snarestand in any of our videos, so please let me know what you mean.
      Also we don't claim to "have wisdom"... I don't know where you have that sentence from.

    • @TedDiabetes
      @TedDiabetes 5 місяців тому +1

      Settle down, Beavis.

  • @zendean5207
    @zendean5207 Рік тому +1

    Where do you purchase yhe wooden wrap material? I tried to rewrap my teardrop years ago here in the States but could not find a place that sold wood that thin. 1"8" was the thinnest, and I could not find Scandinavian birch like I wanted. Only maple. But 1/8" is quite thick, especially on a teardrop 3-ply shel that is probably less that 1/8". I ended up not wrapping it at all, not wanting to choke the vibration of the shell. Also, what kind of glue do you use to apply the wood wrap?

    • @stdrumsgmbh
      @stdrumsgmbh  Рік тому

      we actually offer thin wooden veneers like that in our shop: stdrums.com/en/c/wrap/real-wood-veneer they come with a thin nonwoven layer on the back that makes it easier to use them. The ones in the video where made without this nonwoven, but we can't sell them individually unfortunately. If you are looking for a certain type of wood veneer that is not in our shop you can send us a picture of the type of finish you are looking for via email, then we can check if we can source a veneer like that. For the veneers with the nonwoven layer we recommend the same 3M Scotch-weld 30 glue that we recommend for our drumwraps. You can use our contact form on the bottom of the page at stdrums.com thanks!