And according Niki Lauda's friends, Vettel was the first choice for the 2018 Mercedes next to Hamilton (during 2017 winter testing), but Vettel was convinced of Ferrari's pace that year and the continuation of their pace in 2018 as well! And Vettel wanted to win with Ferrari more than with Mercedes! SADLY! Edit: I am not exactly sure this is true, but I have read quite a few articles about this!
Gernot Stocker Was he? I don't recall him being brought up as a proper candidate at the time. It was (or at least appeared to be) between Pascal Wehrlein and Bottas.
@@TheJokerit19 There are some articles about it from 2016, but in german. One of the articles mentiones that Mercedes called Renault and asked for his release, but Renault declined. The article also mentiones that Lauda thinks that Wehrlein could be a good replacement.
@@nav7903 Vettel threw away 2017 and 2018 all on his own, Mercedes made a shit ton of mistakes both years but still easily won. Rosberg would've still won, albeit by a lesser margin than Hamilton.
The thing is, Schumi inputs made Merc what it is right now. As much as id love to see back then Heidfeld there it would certainly delay Merc rise to power.
I remember being dead excited for Perez and Mclaren in 2013 after they both had great 2012 seasons, but that was the year McLaren's drop in form started, similar to Ferrari this year.
fenhen Alonso was 3rd in the World Championship with McLaren in 2007, won two races with Renault and scored a pole in 2008 and 2009, he became 2nd in the World Championship with Ferrari in 2010 and 2012 and almost became World Champion twice there...
That's not the case. The "one time" was Flávio's proposition to Senna but they may have really been working behind the scenes to get him to join (hence him telling him about his sponsorship)
According to John Barnard’s book, it was actually a possibility in as Senna talked to Barnard whilst the latter was at Benetton in 1990, and was interested in joining because Barnard was the most innovative technical director at the time. (He introduced the carbon fibre composite chassis and the semi-automatic gearbox) Barnard was honest though and told Senna that Benetton was going to take a few more years to be competitive and he was better off staying at McLaren; as it happens Barnard fell victim to Briatore’s politics and left midway through the ‘91 season.
@@GeriatricFan1963 it's amazing how Barnard basically always attracted himself to political situations, given his Benetton time being bookended with Ferrari
@@brenanconroy4052 I truly believe that had Enzo Ferrari not died in 1988 (only 2 years after signing Barnard) then the power struggle between FIAT and Piero Lardi Ferrari (Who clashed with Barnard) would not have happened; with Enzo still at the reigns, he'd have got the team to rally behind Barnard and they'd have fought Ferrari for titles way more consistently from '89 through to the early 90's. Such a shame that we never got to see Prost and Barnard at Ferrari; I think Senna and McLaren would have had an even tougher time in 1990. Instead, a rogue faction in Ferrari led by Piero Lardi hired Harvey Postlethwaite to build a secret car, which basically became the blueprint for the 1990 Tyrrell; an absolutely huge waste of resources which really shows just how much of a mess Ferrari became once Enzo passed away.
Martin Brundle revealed on Sky in the 'Secret Cinema' feature they've been doing with Hamilton that he was also involved in that 2005 contract issue between Hamilton and McLaren after Anthony Hamilton asked him for advice and still has all the contracts that Hamilton had faxed him.
2002 - Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Toyota) (not so much a nearly signed, but more a 'nowhere else to go' situation at the time) 1978/9 - James Hunt (Ferrari) 1977 - Chris Amon (Wolf) 2014 - Rubens Barrichello (Caterham) 2014 - Nico Hulkenberg (Lotus) 1994 - Ayrton Senna (Ferrari) 1950 - Stirling Moss (Ferrari) (I don't think technically F1, but certainly could have led to something) 1962 - Stirling Moss (Ferrari) (this one was definitely for F1) 2000 - Mika Hakkinen (Ferrari) 1967 - Chris Amon (McLaren) 1997 - Damon Hill (Benetton/Ferrari/Stewart/McLaren) 2005 - Pastor Maldonado (Minardi) 1996 - Taki Inoue (Minardi) 2013 - Luiz Razia (Marussia) 2005 - Anthony Davidson (Williams) 2015 - Giedo van der Garde (Sauber) 2014 - Sergey Sirotkin (Sauber) 2008 - Ralf Schumacher (Force India/Toro Rosso/McLaren) 2009 - Bruno Senna (Brawn GP) 2010 - Anthony Davidson (Virgin/Lotus) 2012 - Kimi Raikkonen (Williams) 2014 - Pastor Maldonado (Ferrari) 1987 - Didier Pironi (AGS) 1998 - Jos Verstappen (Tyrrell) 1962/3 - Ricardo Rodriguez (Lotus) 1960 - Jim Clark (Aston Martin)
Button to Williams (2005 and 2006) Villeneuve to Benetton (2001) Sutil to McLaren (2008) Ralf Schumacher to Force India (2008) Maldonado to Renault (2016)
we all know Mercedes without Lewis would be nowhere. Its only hamiltons and bottas' driving genius that keep merc halfway competitive. Bottas and ham are the best of this Generation
@@heliumtrophy Yes, I read it in Sir Jackie's autobiography about the almost signed moment... Il Commandatore was so furious, it plays some twists years later.
@@HaraiGoshi345 Actually, he already went to Maranello and discuss terms with Enzo. So take what you may; going as far as that is not exactly "never interested."
In 1992 i was offered a drive for Williams. I chose to play my cards aggressively and told them i wouldn't do it for anything less then 1.2 million a race... I really thought i had them in a position where they couldn't say no. Turns out they just laughed at me and said that driving the food catering company truck wasn't even a salary position and that it started at $12 an hour with free lunch on race day after a 90 day probationary period from time of hire.
I remember reading an article in 2008 where Ross Brawn was trying to coax Alonso to Honda for the next season. I was laughing at how absurd it sounded. Funny how things could have turned out.
Not a chance, with McLaren and Williams dommination in the late 80s. I mean there's a reason why Schumi took most of his Benetton staff with him to Ferrari, instead of just going alone..
Orcawhale & margus I agree with both of u guys, he would have suffered the same fate as all the other top Ferrari drivers It's easier to name who did win a title with Ferrari rather than who didn't (some serious name in the long list)
Maldonardo to Ferrari could be a good one for a part 2. Schumacher to Williams for 1996 also deserves a look. I once saw an interview wit Jochen Mass where he said Schumacher had asked him wether to go to Williams or Ferrari, with Mass saying he himself would try to become a hero at Ferrari. What a prediction.
Ronnie Peterson had already made contract to drive McLaren for the 1979 season, but that was never to happen. Also, Williams nearly got Mika Häkkinen driving them for 1993 season but there was some contract dispute with Lotus.
Yep people forget that Hill was in the right place at the right time for 1993. If it had been a year earlier Blundell would have got it. If i recall it was a straight choice between Damon and Brundle for the '93 drive. McLaren tried to sign Herbert for '94 as he worked well with Mika in '92 but Lotus wouldn't release him then Prost refused to come back and Brundle got the drive.
Mika Häkkinen to WIlliams for 1993 season. Apparently that contract was almost signed but Williams had missed out on officially announcing their drivers for that season and thus Lotus team boss at that time managed to blocked Häkkinen from moving to Williams cause they really wanted to keep him after his great performances in 1992 season with the team. Ofc that then resulted Mika leaving the team anyway to become Mclaren test driver for 1993 season. In my understanding Häkkinen really was Williams number 1 choice to partner with Prost for 1993, not Brundle, nor Damon Hill. Also several ways Kimi's career could have went after 2009 season: -Kimi to Mclaren in 2010 -Kimi to Williams in 2012 -Kimi to Red Bull in 2014
Nigel Mansell mentioned Arrows approached him twice during his career. In 1984 and 1990. Other near misses you could mention are Innes Ireland for BRM 1962; Jochen Rindt for Brabham in 1970; Mario Andretti or Alan Jones to Ferrari in 1978; Gilles Villeneuve for McLaren in 1982; Mika Hakkinen to Williams for 1993 and for 2005; Heidfeld missing out on McLaren seat etc; Chris Amon turning down several offers etc. Alonso and Red Bull talks.
Thackwell (ignoring 3 ftps in '80, 83 and '84!) Greg Moore Gonzalo Rodriguez Bert Fabi Morris Sala Andy Wallace Benoit Treluyer Tom Kristensen Marco Apicella (ignore Monza '93) Paul Tracy Sam Hornish Helio Castroneves Scott Dixon Gil de Ferran Esteban Guerrieri Enrique Mansilla
@@chamindujanith6337 Yes. How he got the drive at Brabham is a story in itself. Bernie Ecclestone was pleased Warwick didn't call the team after de Angelis died as others had done wanting the drive. So Ecclestone chose Warwick.
Jenson Button to Williams (twice in 2 years) After the summer break of 2004, news broke that Jenson Button was going to return to the team that gave him his F1 debut in 2000, Williams. Not only was the sport stunned and slightly bemused by this news, as he was having the season of his life up to then, but the team he was with at the time, BAR, disputed the contract he'd signed with Williams. It went to the Contract Recognition Board, which ruled in BAR's favour, though Button and Williams said that he would be with the team in 2006. However, 12 months on, Button changed his mind about who he wanted to drive for. Williams were losing their supply of BMW engines from 2006 and he felt it was better to stick with BAR that would be rebranded as Honda in 2006. He paid Williams millions in compensation out of his own pocket and remained with the team until the end of his championship winning season in 2009
Another suggestion I have, Derek Warwick to Lotus (what would have been the first time). After the Works Renault team pulled out at the end of 1985, Derek Warwick signed a contract to join Lotus as team mate to Ayrton Senna. There was just one problem, Senna blocked the move. Supposedly it was because he felt that Lotus was no good at running two competitive cars, but in actuality, it was because he felt that because Derek was on the rise at the same time as Senna, Senna felt that Warwick was too close in terms of competitiveness compared to him. Given how Derek was subsequently lumbered with often hopelessly uncompetitive machinery in his time in F1, it would have been interesting to see how Derek Warwick would have fared against Senna
Some extra "almost" cases: 1. Jan Lammers to Ferrari. Jan Lammers almost was signed by Ferrari in 1982, as Ferrari was looking for a driver to fill the seat of Gilles Villeneuve after his fatal crash in Zolder. Lammers would test the Ferrari before signing, but broke his thumb in a crash just before the test would be done. Injured and unable to test, Ferrari had no other option than to look further. 2. Verstappen to Mclaren. In 1993, Jos Verstappen was as big as a hype as Max was when he joined F1. Verstappen had a test in Estoril with Footwork, where he was quicker then the regular racedrivers of the team and drove a laptime that would have given him an exeptionally good grid position in the race, that wad held just that weekend before. Many F1 teams were interested in signing Verstappen, and Mclaren offered Jos a test. Dennis wanted to sign Jos a a testdriver for 1994, but Flavio Briatore was the one who knicked Jos from Mclaren just in time. Benneton offered Jos a testcontract for 1994, to prepare him for a garantied Benneton race seat in 1995. After Benneton J.J. Letho broke his neck in a crash, Jos was catapulted in F1 as the replacement. A unique chance, but also a move that eventually broke his career. The wild and unexperienced Verstappen could not keep up with Schumacher due beginner mistakes and a car that was designef for Schumacher, and lacked a lot of updates compared to the German. Verstappen managed to get better during the season, with 2 podiums. Verstappen expected to keep his Benneton seat for 1995, as was promised in his contract. But the team chose the more ecperienced Herbert, and Briatore put Verstappen in a Simtek. From that moment on, Verstappen never got another chance in a top team car. Although he was close to sign with Mclaren, Sauber or Jordan for 1997, he choose to sign with Tyrrell, which turned out to be a mistake since that team would loose the Yamaha engine. 3. Senna to Ferrari. It is by now a pretty well known story, but Senna planned to join Ferrari for 1996 to end his career with. Williams proved to be the dominant team and Senna expected to win 1994 and 1995 title. After 1995, Senna would have wanted to move to Ferrari to drive his last years in F1 with. Unfortunally, faith decided otherwise. 4. Mansell to Jordan. After Mansell left Mclaren after a couple of races in 1995 in the failed concept of the '95 car, Mansell tried one last time. In 1996 he tested a Jordan. Benson & Hedges wanted him in the car in 1997 as replacement for Brundle or Barrichello. Mansell decided not to sign and never intended another try to make an F1 comeback.
I love these types of videos. Amazing to think Porsche and Footwork/Arrows could have become a powerhouse if they had Mansell and Newey paired with a Porsche engine that actually worked. Success often breeds success.
Senna to Benetton? Or to Penske in the Indycar-series? Its tragic that every of these alternatives would have saved his life and would gave him a winning-package. He picked death instead.
Ronnie Pererson was going to McLaren in 1979, and the announcement was made in Monza, two days before his fatal crash. Gunnar Nilsson was hired by Arrows in 1978 before he was ill with testicular cancer and eventuallly died of the disease, in october 1978.
Takuma Sato to Toro Rosso in 200...9(?) that went as far as him testing the car was a weird one. There were also rumours of Olivier Panis moving to Ferrari to replace Irvine for 1998 after his superb start to 1997, with them deciding on Barrichello after Panis couldn't replicate that form post leg break.
Hello, Regarding Senna to Benetton : 1- The first contact that Senna had with Benetton ( ex Toleman) was at Monaco GP 1990 where Senna invited John Barnard at home to discuss the subject. John Barnard himself advised Senna that technically Benetton would not be ready for him. 2- Senna that year was in contact with all 4 top teams, Benetton did not was stopped soon, but also Williams, Ferrari and McLaren. 3- The closest to be signed was Ferrari and we all know what happened : politics at Ferrari side 4- The contacts between Senna and Benetton ( Briatore) went public in July 1993 when Schumacher declared, I will tried to translate it in English as precise as possible cause I have read the declaration in French at that time : if Senna comes to Benetton, he will destroy the mood within the team. So yes, in the plans of Briatore, Senna was supposed to drive alongside Schumacher who was under contract till 1995. And seems that Schumacher was not happy to have Senna as a teammate. Spoon face's fans always forgot about this. This is part of a long series of blocking from Spoon face ( although in that case, if Senna wanted , Spoon face would not have been able to block ) : Johnny Herbert ( who after having being faster in Argentina , had no more access to Schumacher telemetry and got basically forward fired ) Mika Hakkineen in 2000 Juan-Pablo Montoya in 2001 Jacques Villeneuve in 1997 5- For the record, Senna was aware that Benetton had signed with Renault in early 1994 before even Williams would learn it Regarding replacement to Mansell : In order of preference of Frank Williams : 1- Mika Hakkinen 2- Mark Blundell 3- Martin Brundle It's only because the move from Mika Hakkinen has been sabotaged by Peter Collins , who 1- Threatened Williams who at that time missed the deadline for the subscription to FIA 2- Spread rumours about Mika Hakkinen being totally dumb in settings a car , more than actually he was 3- things taking time till Williams started to ask more (British) people in his team 4- Williams asking Prost ( in French and Prost replying in English) : Prost politically responded that he would prefer Damon Hill who would not be a threat as Mika Hakkinen . He wait for Williams to talk about rumours ( from Peter Collins) to use as an argument after saying, that Hakkinen was fast ( he could not denied it) 5- Meanwhile, Ligier who was also in touch with all 3 : Mika, Martin and Mark , signed the lasts But choice of Frank Williams was 1/ Mika 2/ Mark 3/Martin 4/ Patrese ( who already signed with Benetton and did not wanted to use any clause to cancel the move) . . . . Damon Hill
Apparently there was a plan to move Jeff Gordon from NASCAR to BAR-Honda with a year or 2 in CART/Indy Car in between as his training platform into open wheel formula cars. Gordon backed out for a few reasons including Hendrick, his NASCAR team, offering him a fat new contract to keep him there.
Marko tried to lure Montoya to RB for 2007 but JPM had already made his mind up to leave F1. It would have been Juan Pablo who got the top cars likely alongside Vettel. That would have been very interesting, as I think we would all agree Monster was a level above Webber.
Senna move to Bennetton is well known in Brazil, Briatore called lot of sponsorship from Brazilian industries/business to help him, but most of the Brazilian money makers wanted to see him on Williams, and maybe Ferrari. We know what happened
Villeneuve with Benetton/Renault for 2001. He received two similar contracts from Benetton and BAR but choose to stay with BAR because Craig Pollock said the team would have collapsed without him. Years after Jacques admitted his instinct told him to leave for Benetton. And considering how his career went after that, it's clearly the turning point of his career. And reputation...
Senna's attempted move to Ferrari for 1995 season (as described by Luca di Montezomolo in recent podcast) should be on the list, if not top of the list
In 94 it has been said, that Senna was going to be moving to Ferrari had he not died at Imola before he could switch teams after talking with Ferrari on the 27th of April..
I remember Dutchman Jan Lammers being on a short list at Scuderia Ferrari, late 1982. Just before he would go on audience with Il Commendatore in Maranello, Lammers broke his thumb. Mario Andretti filled the gap and took pole at Monza.
When the 2006 season began, Alonso had already signed the deal with McLaren for 2007. For a while, it was rumoured that Kimi Raikkonen could have been his replacement. Again, when Kimi Raikkonen was considering his return to F1 for 2012, he negotiated with Lotus, but also with Williams. I also remember at the end of 2013, when Raikkonen announced his departure from Lotus to Ferrari, Eric Boullier suggested the Genii Capital Board to hire Nico Hulkenberg for 2014. They went with Pastor Maldonado, because they needed his money.
I think the 2005 button move to Williams should be added in the next video. Yes I know button raced for Williams in his first F1 season in 2000, but the big contract controversy put pay to him returning there in 2005
@@doublecub In my undersanding Red Bull considered Kimi for 2014 season, NOT for 2012. 2013 was the year Webber was gonna walk out after what happened in Malaysia (mutli 21) but instead of going for Kimi, Red Bull offered the seat to Ricciardo who was ofc part of their young driver program and they have stuck to their young driver program ever since. I remember this clearly because there was heck of speculation going on whether Kimi would go to Red Bull or Ferrari. For 2012 the only 2 teams that were speculated were Williams and Lotus.
Jenson Button to Toro Rosso for 2009, Rubens Barrichello to McLaren in 2010 and Felipe Massa to McLaren in 2010 and 2014. Wasn't Hulkenberg also linked with Ferrari around the same time as Mercedes interest?
Verstappen to Jordan could have appeared 3 times! Jordan was interested in signing in 2004 alongside Heidfeld, I think he even did the shakedown at Silverstone.
@@jamesdyer7960 A pity we never found out. Villeneuve in a Tag-Porsche McLaren could have been epic, although fuel economy driving in the mid 80s might not have been to his liking.
@@gorkab8461 He would have detested the fuel saving garbage but loved full boost balls out qualifying!!! Interestingly Prost may never have got a drive in '84, as if Gilles had signed it would likely have been as Lauda's teammate in '82. Maybe the TAG engine would have come on stream earlier with a real ace like GV in the team.
Fun fact: Hamilton almost went to Red Bull to replace Mark Webber but The Founder offered Webber loyalty and he continued with Red Bull til 2013 and with Hamilton with Mercedes anyway in that season. Another one was Alonso with Brawn GP (Mercedes) WTF1 mentioned Alonso as “The King of Bad career choices” as he decided to go back to Renault from McLaren rather then join the Honda or Brawn GP team but other than behind the Robert Kubica going to Ferrari Alonso was the Biggest What If he signed with Brawn GP and won that Third title (Sorry Button but I had to be said) and furthermore he could have stayed with Brawn that would become Mercedes and he would have won more than 3 Championships
I watched the '97 race at Monaco yesterday. And the commentator said it was almost sure that Hill would've drove for Stewart in '97 instead of Arrows, but the payment he wished for was too high for Stewart... So they went for Barrichello and Magnussen.
There was a rumour in those days of Nelson Piquet would replace Capelli for 1992 and 1993 at Ferrari... But Piquet crashed at Indy 500... Could not confirm about this...
Mika Häkkinen was on his way to Williams twice, but the deal fell through both times. He had already signed with Williams for 1993, but because Williams screwed up their entry, Lotus managed to block the move, Williams went with Damon Hill instead and Mika ended up as McLaren’s test driver before replacing Michael Andretti near the end of the season. He was in talks with Williams again for 2005, but I believe he felt he was too out of shape for F1 and went to DTM instead.
Hello guys , Regarding Senna and Benetton : it should have been next to Schumacher. One evidence for that is a declaration of Schumacher in July 1993 where he said that it would be bad for the team as Senna would destroy the atmosphere within the team. The argument advanced by Schumacher is showing a clear concern that Senna would have been next to him. Moreover, Schumacher was in contract with Benetton till 1995. It has been signed in 1991 and might have some clause updated during time regarding performance bonuses but the main line was written in 1991. Everyone was aware that Schumacher was with Benetton till 1995 included. When Dennis approached Schumacher in late 1993 (I think December) in that famous recorded conversation, it was never an approach for 1994 nor 1995 but after that , after the Benetton contract Also, Senna has discussed with Benetton, in particular John Barnard in 1990, cause Senna's contract of 3 years (1988,1989,1990) was ending at the end of that year. He also discussed with Williams in a more advanced way, and with Ferrari in a very much advanced way. Regarding second seat at Williams for 1993. The 2 years contract of Prost with Williams ( 1993 and 1994, finally he retired at the end of 1993) was signed at Mexico 1992. Senna was among the first who had knowledge of that ( he was also aware that Renault had signed with Benetton before even Williams was aware of that) For the second seat, when it was clear that Mansell will leave cause the way he was treated, ( the famous press conference of Monza 1992 tells a lot) and knowing that there was a veto against Senna and Mansell from Prost, at least for 1993 and that veto against Mansell has been left by Prost, then Williams was interested by Mika Hakkinen . Mika Hakkinen was in a typical 3 years beginner contract in midfield which through contract, allows the young driver to liberate himself from the contract if he pays some amount, generally decreasing through time. An example of that if Senna with Toleman . Toleman behaviour was unfair and ridiculous when punishing Senna for talking with Lotus and not allowing him to run the Italian GP at Monza in 1984. Williams was willing to pay, but Peter Collins (the manager, not the world champion) did not wanted Mika Hakkinen to leave. Williams has missed the deadline for filling the application for the 1993 entries and the FIA bureaucracy wanted all F1 teams to unanimously accept their entries for that. (Today, in Formula Parking Monotype by Duracell called "F1", you can change the name of a team just by being a sponsor , so this is the other extreme of a "Sport" which is in totally decline, but that's another subject) and Peter Collins used this as a threat against Williams. So during this battle, Williams started to include others options , Hill and Brundle. When Prost was asked ( this is in video of testing, where frank Williams talks to Prost in French, and Prost replies to Williams in English, as courtesy) between Hill and Hakkinen. The discussion ( at least from what is shown in the documentary about Williams preparing 1993) , Williams is starting that all the engineers at Williams are pushing for Hill. Then he said Mika is very fast ... but the same voice are telling me that he does not understand the car. Indeed, Peter Collins was also using his influence to weaken Mika reputation in order to keep him under contract. Prost is not clearly responding but he gives a preference in a very political manner and his preference was for Hill. When Williams said Mika, he asked "Hakkinen" ? It is very obvious I feel that Williams at that time might have understood the game of Williams but there was another aspect . The entries problem. Williams ha fought as much as possible but gave up and finally having Hill already in the team, they went with him. But he was announced very late, meaning he was never the first choice for Williams. Mika Hakkinen was the first choice for Williams to second Prost when it was clear that Senna was vetoed by Prost, Mansell had enough, Patrese already signed with Benetton ( by the way, they asked him to consider staying when he was at a very much advanced level of discussion with Benetton and Briatore telling him in his languorous and malicious manner that Benetton needed him, he decided to sign ) , so Williams number one choice was Mika and far behind, Hill and Brundle. Mika was so far first choice that Williams begged him to stop discussing with Ligier. For Mika, the relation with Peter Collins was so bad ( can you imagine a manager trying to retain you by mouthing on you in the paddock directly or using people ?) that anything was better than Lotus.
Ayrton Senna met Luca Cordero di Montezemolo and Jean Todt in a certain acetaia in Serramazzoni, Italy three days before the race in Imola to finalize a transfer for 1995 - they cheered with a spoon of 1960 Acceto to greet the ocassion, and then with a glass of wine. They were in contact for a number of years, but the key breakthrough came after the Pacific GP, when both Senna and JT were flying back in the same plane to Europe. Berger would be out and Ferrari's lineup for 1995 would consist out of Jean Alesi and Ayrton Senna. Money was no problem, and Ferrari accepted to take Ayrton's race engineer and trainer/masseuse/chef with him.
" Top 10 moments Hulkenberg missed out on the podium "
#1 Germany 2019
Fucking savage
@@pablojimenez2035 You are new to F1, aren't you?
*_Top 10 moments Hulkenberg missed out on the podium_*
...except that you could only count 5 or 6 at the most...
In his whole F1 career...
*”Top 10 times Hulkenberg bottled a podium”
Hülkenberg was Mercedes' first choice for 2017, but they couldn't get him out of his renault contract.
And according Niki Lauda's friends, Vettel was the first choice for the 2018 Mercedes next to Hamilton (during 2017 winter testing), but Vettel was convinced of Ferrari's pace that year and the continuation of their pace in 2018 as well! And Vettel wanted to win with Ferrari more than with Mercedes! SADLY!
Edit: I am not exactly sure this is true, but I have read quite a few articles about this!
Link to the articles please
@@swapnilnayak2449 Just like Jean Alesi. Choosing his heart to go to Ferrari, than signing with Williams.
Gernot Stocker Was he? I don't recall him being brought up as a proper candidate at the time. It was (or at least appeared to be) between Pascal Wehrlein and Bottas.
@@TheJokerit19 There are some articles about it from 2016, but in german. One of the articles mentiones that Mercedes called Renault and asked for his release, but Renault declined.
The article also mentiones that Lauda thinks that Wehrlein could be a good replacement.
Imagine the alternate universes from all of these. Hulkenberg World Champion with Mercedes. Kubica and Alonso in Ferrari together.
what about senna still being alive in the san marino gp during the 1994 season if he signed for benetton
Rosberg would cruise to 6 WDCs if Hulkenberg was his team-mate.
@@vivvysaur21 Rosberg wouldn't have won 6 Vettel would've won 2017 and 2018, yes Rosberg would've won 2014 and 2015
@@vivvysaur21 Not necessarily!
@@nav7903 Vettel threw away 2017 and 2018 all on his own, Mercedes made a shit ton of mistakes both years but still easily won. Rosberg would've still won, albeit by a lesser margin than Hamilton.
Nick Heidfeld to Mercedes in 2010 if Schumi didn't come back.
That's a story that should have been mentioned.
@@ChampCarforlife yeah imagine Heidfeld in the hybrid era in a Mercedes
Also Heidfeld to Mclaren 2002 ;)
Also heard about in 2009 jenson button nearly went to Mercedes over rosberg before going to McLaren
The thing is, Schumi inputs made Merc what it is right now. As much as id love to see back then Heidfeld there it would certainly delay Merc rise to power.
Juan Pablo Montoyota.
@Lord Mahaveer Maldonado if Juan was to get Juan point from Round Juan, would the Juan point be from judge Juan, Juan?
I hate you.
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Here’s a video idea - F1 driver moves that showed promise but failed spectacularly
#1 Alonso to McLaren
#2 Alonso to McLaren (again)
#3 Alonso to Ferrari
#4 Alonso to Renault
#5 Alonso to Renault (again!)
I remember being dead excited for Perez and Mclaren in 2013 after they both had great 2012 seasons, but that was the year McLaren's drop in form started, similar to Ferrari this year.
fenhen Alonso was 3rd in the World Championship with McLaren in 2007, won two races with Renault and scored a pole in 2008 and 2009, he became 2nd in the World Championship with Ferrari in 2010 and 2012 and almost became World Champion twice there...
I feel we are talking about Vettel here....
Adrián García vettel to ferrari is definitely one of them, imo
"Top ten times Nigel Mansell announces he is retiring from F1"
I feel like Flávio Briatore talking to Senna one time doesn’t really count as ‘Senna nearly signing for Benetton’.
That's not the case. The "one time" was Flávio's proposition to Senna but they may have really been working behind the scenes to get him to join (hence him telling him about his sponsorship)
According to John Barnard’s book, it was actually a possibility in as Senna talked to Barnard whilst the latter was at Benetton in 1990, and was interested in joining because Barnard was the most innovative technical director at the time. (He introduced the carbon fibre composite chassis and the semi-automatic gearbox) Barnard was honest though and told Senna that Benetton was going to take a few more years to be competitive and he was better off staying at McLaren; as it happens Barnard fell victim to Briatore’s politics and left midway through the ‘91 season.
@LCP excuse me?
@@GeriatricFan1963 it's amazing how Barnard basically always attracted himself to political situations, given his Benetton time being bookended with Ferrari
@@brenanconroy4052 I truly believe that had Enzo Ferrari not died in 1988 (only 2 years after signing Barnard) then the power struggle between FIAT and Piero Lardi Ferrari (Who clashed with Barnard) would not have happened; with Enzo still at the reigns, he'd have got the team to rally behind Barnard and they'd have fought Ferrari for titles way more consistently from '89 through to the early 90's. Such a shame that we never got to see Prost and Barnard at Ferrari; I think Senna and McLaren would have had an even tougher time in 1990. Instead, a rogue faction in Ferrari led by Piero Lardi hired Harvey Postlethwaite to build a secret car, which basically became the blueprint for the 1990 Tyrrell; an absolutely huge waste of resources which really shows just how much of a mess Ferrari became once Enzo passed away.
Martin Brundle revealed on Sky in the 'Secret Cinema' feature they've been doing with Hamilton that he was also involved in that 2005 contract issue between Hamilton and McLaren after Anthony Hamilton asked him for advice and still has all the contracts that Hamilton had faxed him.
2002 - Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Toyota) (not so much a nearly signed, but more a 'nowhere else to go' situation at the time)
1978/9 - James Hunt (Ferrari)
1977 - Chris Amon (Wolf)
2014 - Rubens Barrichello (Caterham)
2014 - Nico Hulkenberg (Lotus)
1994 - Ayrton Senna (Ferrari)
1950 - Stirling Moss (Ferrari) (I don't think technically F1, but certainly could have led to something)
1962 - Stirling Moss (Ferrari) (this one was definitely for F1)
2000 - Mika Hakkinen (Ferrari)
1967 - Chris Amon (McLaren)
1997 - Damon Hill (Benetton/Ferrari/Stewart/McLaren)
2005 - Pastor Maldonado (Minardi)
1996 - Taki Inoue (Minardi)
2013 - Luiz Razia (Marussia)
2005 - Anthony Davidson (Williams)
2015 - Giedo van der Garde (Sauber)
2014 - Sergey Sirotkin (Sauber)
2008 - Ralf Schumacher (Force India/Toro Rosso/McLaren)
2009 - Bruno Senna (Brawn GP)
2010 - Anthony Davidson (Virgin/Lotus)
2012 - Kimi Raikkonen (Williams)
2014 - Pastor Maldonado (Ferrari)
1987 - Didier Pironi (AGS)
1998 - Jos Verstappen (Tyrrell)
1962/3 - Ricardo Rodriguez (Lotus)
1960 - Jim Clark (Aston Martin)
Those Maldonaldo ones have to be cap right
2009 - Takuma Sato (Toro Rosso)
2001 J. villeneuve McLaren
1997 Verstappen Sauber
11. Kimi Raikkonen nearly got his drink, gloves, and steering wheel
Ice cream is also important.
And his sunglasses
and a normal wheel
Ideas for next time:
Webber to Renault
Herbert to Ferrari/Williams/McLaren
Karthikeyan to Spyker
Perez to Ferrari
Hamilton to BMW
Kobayashi to Ferrari
Button to Williams (2005 and 2006)
Villeneuve to Benetton (2001)
Sutil to McLaren (2008)
Ralf Schumacher to Force India (2008)
Maldonado to Renault (2016)
Taki Inoue to Minardi (1996)
Heidfeld to McLaren (2002)
Timo Glock to Jordan (2005)
Don't forget Jackie Stewart to Ferrari just before he signed for Tyrell
Also:
Patrese to Williams (1995)
Brundle to Ligier (1997)
Perez to Ferrari? I didn't know that.
Part 2 should include Sebastien Loeb almost swapping from WRC to Toro Rosso.
Don't forget Valentino Rossi from MotoGP to Ferrari.
Kimi Räikkönen to Williams in 2012. He could have done good things with that car.
Or to Red Bull for 2014.....wonder how that would have went for him.
A few more interesting ones that almost happeened: Jean Alesi to Williams in 1991, Michael Andretti to Ferrari in 1992, Rick Mears to Brabham in 1982
Mears would have been a great signing but Brabham only wanted a no.2 to Piquet.
Al unser jr williams..M.Schumacher mclaren, paul tracy benetton..Helio Castroneves toyota..jose maria lopez renault(it counts!)
Honestly I wonder how successful Hulkenberg would’ve been at Mercedes cause he’s a good driver but I wonder if they would be as dominant
I'm pretty sure he would have beaten Rosberg
@@zurafar6954 eh Rosberg would probably have beaten him most of the years and Vettel would've probably won 2018
@@redbullsauberpetronas unfortunately we will never know
@@zurafar6954 Fortunately more like.
we all know Mercedes without Lewis would be nowhere. Its only hamiltons and bottas' driving genius that keep merc halfway competitive. Bottas and ham are the best of this Generation
Senna to Ferrari for 95 and 96 97 imagine Ferrari getting both Senna and Schumacher Ferrari only can dream.
they would have managed it horribly though
I knew none of this and Im surprised number 1 wasnt Dennis trying to bring Schumacher at McLaren alongside Hakkinen as a teammate for the 2000 season.
Tiago GTSport
Ferrari tried to do the same thing but with Mika joining Michael
It's rumored the German said no
Nick Heidfeld would have raced for McLaren-Merc in 2002 or 03, but Kimi got the drive, and the rest was history.
I stil have a model McLaren car with him in it. Quik Nick.
Jackie Stewart to Ferrari, just before he signed with Tyrell.
Il Commendatore never forgave that move.
@@heliumtrophy Yes, I read it in Sir Jackie's autobiography about the almost signed moment... Il Commandatore was so furious, it plays some twists years later.
Wan R He was never interested
@@HaraiGoshi345 Actually, he already went to Maranello and discuss terms with Enzo. So take what you may; going as far as that is not exactly "never interested."
1. Hulk to Merc
2. Hulk to Ferrari
3. Hulk to Haas
4. Hulk to Williams
5. Hulk to *insert team here*
well, technically, he was in Williams before. And he said he was too ambitious to drive for Haas, so he prefered to not be on F1 grid, lol
Hulk to Andrea Moda
In 1992 i was offered a drive for Williams. I chose to play my cards aggressively and told them i wouldn't do it for anything less then 1.2 million a race... I really thought i had them in a position where they couldn't say no. Turns out they just laughed at me and said that driving the food catering company truck wasn't even a salary position and that it started at $12 an hour with free lunch on race day after a 90 day probationary period from time of hire.
Best thing I've read all week 😂
Brilliant 😂
Alonso to Brawn GP for 2009.
Also to Red Bull for 2009
I remember reading an article in 2008 where Ross Brawn was trying to coax Alonso to Honda for the next season. I was laughing at how absurd it sounded. Funny how things could have turned out.
You missed Ayrton Senna to Ferrari
yes it was very close
Kimi to McLaren 2010
How about a raikkonen return to McLaren in 2010 before Jenson was confirmed
Damn I wish Bellof hadn’t had raced at Spa he would’ve been world champion
Haha he wouldn’t. He wouldn’t have been able to stop Ayrton
More like another Ferrari casualty.
Not a chance, with McLaren and Williams dommination in the late 80s.
I mean there's a reason why Schumi took most of his Benetton staff with him to Ferrari, instead of just going alone..
Orcawhale & margus
I agree with both of u guys, he would have suffered the same fate as all the other top Ferrari drivers
It's easier to name who did win a title with Ferrari rather than who didn't (some serious name in the long list)
Barrichello to Caterham in 2014 was funny one. The deal was done and evertything, but then the team got bankrupt.
Who was he gonna replace?
Not sure, I think it was for one race only tho as he just wanted to say goodbye to his fans at Interlagos.
He could’ve raced for mclaren In 2010 but had signed for Williams already
Maldonardo to Ferrari could be a good one for a part 2. Schumacher to Williams for 1996 also deserves a look. I once saw an interview wit Jochen Mass where he said Schumacher had asked him wether to go to Williams or Ferrari, with Mass saying he himself would try to become a hero at Ferrari. What a prediction.
Ronnie Peterson had already made contract to drive McLaren for the 1979 season, but that was never to happen.
Also, Williams nearly got Mika Häkkinen driving them for 1993 season but there was some contract dispute with Lotus.
Yep people forget that Hill was in the right place at the right time for 1993. If it had been a year earlier Blundell would have got it. If i recall it was a straight choice between Damon and Brundle for the '93 drive.
McLaren tried to sign Herbert for '94 as he worked well with Mika in '92 but Lotus wouldn't release him then Prost refused to come back and Brundle got the drive.
Heard a rumor that Jacques Villeneuve was considered for coulthards McLaren seat for 1999. that would have been a strong line up for mclaren.
Mika Häkkinen to WIlliams for 1993 season. Apparently that contract was almost signed but Williams had missed out on officially announcing their drivers for that season and thus Lotus team boss at that time managed to blocked Häkkinen from moving to Williams cause they really wanted to keep him after his great performances in 1992 season with the team. Ofc that then resulted Mika leaving the team anyway to become Mclaren test driver for 1993 season.
In my understanding Häkkinen really was Williams number 1 choice to partner with Prost for 1993, not Brundle, nor Damon Hill.
Also several ways Kimi's career could have went after 2009 season:
-Kimi to Mclaren in 2010
-Kimi to Williams in 2012
-Kimi to Red Bull in 2014
- Button back to Williams (was it 2004?)
- Schumi to partner Mika at McLaren in '98
- Kimi back to McLaren in 2010
Nigel Mansell mentioned Arrows approached him twice during his career. In 1984 and 1990.
Other near misses you could mention are Innes Ireland for BRM 1962; Jochen Rindt for Brabham in 1970; Mario Andretti or Alan Jones to Ferrari in 1978; Gilles Villeneuve for McLaren in 1982; Mika Hakkinen to Williams for 1993 and for 2005; Heidfeld missing out on McLaren seat etc; Chris Amon turning down several offers etc. Alonso and Red Bull talks.
Schumacher in Ferrari 2009???
Oh yeah and then he had an accident with his motorbike right ? And Ferrari signed Fisico
Luca TV I only know that he had a small fracture on his neck.
No, Schumacher to BrownGP, but he met with an accident and they signed button.
Great idea! How about a top 10 of F1 drivers that should have made it to the series? You can start with Tom Kristensen
Throw Scott Dixon in there too
Aslak Vind Can we include drivers like Sarrazin and Lotterer who deserved a full time drive?
Paul Tracy also another on that list, was potentially being lined up by Benetton for ‘95
Thackwell (ignoring 3 ftps in '80, 83 and '84!)
Greg Moore
Gonzalo Rodriguez
Bert Fabi
Morris Sala
Andy Wallace
Benoit Treluyer
Tom Kristensen
Marco Apicella (ignore Monza '93)
Paul Tracy
Sam Hornish
Helio Castroneves
Scott Dixon
Gil de Ferran
Esteban Guerrieri
Enrique Mansilla
Imagine if Benetton had a driver lineup of Schumacher and Senna in 1994, that would have been a god damn dream team
Helmut Marko to Ferrari, he has already signed the contract but had a crash were he lost an eye
Hill’s rumoured move to McLaren for 1998
he was offered contracts by nearly all teams on the grid as he had driven for arraws before from prost,stewart,jordan and mclaren
How about two of the most famous American F1 almost weres? Parnelli Jones to Lotus and Rick Mears to Brabham.
Dixon had a test back in '04 with Williams too. He could have had a decent-to-good career in F1.
Jos Verstappen almost drove 2004 for Jordan.
Schumacher to Williams was another big almost move
4:49 "OH SO CLOSE!"
Part 2.
1. Vettel to Mercedes in 2018
2. Hamilton to Red Bull in 2012/2013
3. Bottas to Ferrari in 2016
4. Button to Mercedes in 2010
This videos are life. Thanks for those.
Also, Derek Warwick signed for Lotus for 1986 but was vetoed...
He was Patrese's number 2 that year after Elio De Angelis(Nigel Mansell Dominator) died
@@chamindujanith6337 Yes. How he got the drive at Brabham is a story in itself. Bernie Ecclestone was pleased Warwick didn't call the team after de Angelis died as others had done wanting the drive. So Ecclestone chose Warwick.
Jenson Button to Williams (twice in 2 years)
After the summer break of 2004, news broke that Jenson Button was going to return to the team that gave him his F1 debut in 2000, Williams. Not only was the sport stunned and slightly bemused by this news, as he was having the season of his life up to then, but the team he was with at the time, BAR, disputed the contract he'd signed with Williams. It went to the Contract Recognition Board, which ruled in BAR's favour, though Button and Williams said that he would be with the team in 2006. However, 12 months on, Button changed his mind about who he wanted to drive for. Williams were losing their supply of BMW engines from 2006 and he felt it was better to stick with BAR that would be rebranded as Honda in 2006. He paid Williams millions in compensation out of his own pocket and remained with the team until the end of his championship winning season in 2009
Another suggestion I have, Derek Warwick to Lotus (what would have been the first time). After the Works Renault team pulled out at the end of 1985, Derek Warwick signed a contract to join Lotus as team mate to Ayrton Senna. There was just one problem, Senna blocked the move. Supposedly it was because he felt that Lotus was no good at running two competitive cars, but in actuality, it was because he felt that because Derek was on the rise at the same time as Senna, Senna felt that Warwick was too close in terms of competitiveness compared to him. Given how Derek was subsequently lumbered with often hopelessly uncompetitive machinery in his time in F1, it would have been interesting to see how Derek Warwick would have fared against Senna
Alesi nearly went to Williams as many others have noted. But what about Derek Warwick to Lotus Renault only to be vetoed by Senna?
Warwick to Ferrari in May 82
Some extra "almost" cases:
1. Jan Lammers to Ferrari.
Jan Lammers almost was signed by Ferrari in 1982, as Ferrari was looking for a driver to fill the seat of Gilles Villeneuve after his fatal crash in Zolder.
Lammers would test the Ferrari before signing, but broke his thumb in a crash just before the test would be done.
Injured and unable to test, Ferrari had no other option than to look further.
2. Verstappen to Mclaren.
In 1993, Jos Verstappen was as big as a hype as Max was when he joined F1.
Verstappen had a test in Estoril with Footwork, where he was quicker then the regular racedrivers of the team and drove a laptime that would have given him an exeptionally good grid position in the race, that wad held just that weekend before.
Many F1 teams were interested in signing Verstappen, and Mclaren offered Jos a test.
Dennis wanted to sign Jos a a testdriver for 1994, but Flavio Briatore was the one who knicked Jos from Mclaren just in time. Benneton offered Jos a testcontract for 1994, to prepare him for a garantied Benneton race seat in 1995.
After Benneton J.J. Letho broke his neck in a crash, Jos was catapulted in F1 as the replacement. A unique chance, but also a move that eventually broke his career. The wild and unexperienced Verstappen could not keep up with Schumacher due beginner mistakes and a car that was designef for Schumacher, and lacked a lot of updates compared to the German. Verstappen managed to get better during the season, with 2 podiums.
Verstappen expected to keep his Benneton seat for 1995, as was promised in his contract. But the team chose the more ecperienced Herbert, and Briatore put Verstappen in a Simtek.
From that moment on, Verstappen never got another chance in a top team car.
Although he was close to sign with Mclaren, Sauber or Jordan for 1997, he choose to sign with Tyrrell, which turned out to be a mistake since that team would loose the Yamaha engine.
3. Senna to Ferrari.
It is by now a pretty well known story, but Senna planned to join Ferrari for 1996 to end his career with. Williams proved to be the dominant team and Senna expected to win 1994 and 1995 title. After 1995, Senna would have wanted to move to Ferrari to drive his last years in F1 with.
Unfortunally, faith decided otherwise.
4. Mansell to Jordan.
After Mansell left Mclaren after a couple of races in 1995 in the failed concept of the '95 car, Mansell tried one last time.
In 1996 he tested a Jordan. Benson & Hedges wanted him in the car in 1997 as replacement for Brundle or Barrichello.
Mansell decided not to sign and never intended another try to make an F1 comeback.
I love these types of videos. Amazing to think Porsche and Footwork/Arrows could have become a powerhouse if they had Mansell and Newey paired with a Porsche engine that actually worked. Success often breeds success.
I feel like you could've included Maldonado to Ferrari in 2014.
Kubica to Ferrari still hurts me to this day. I feel he could have been champion by now
Lord Mahaveer Maldonado I mean 2012, 2017 and 2018 Ferrari were decent. He had similar talent to Vettel or Alonso
@@joshpotts5063 You sure? Kubica was outqualified by Heidfeld as teammates
Senna to Benetton? Or to Penske in the Indycar-series? Its tragic that every of these alternatives would have saved his life and would gave him a winning-package. He picked death instead.
Great list. Senna Benetton is the one that blows me away.
Irvine to Jordan 1999 and 2003, Barrichello to mclaren 1995,roland ratzenberger jordan 1992, mika salo jordan 1991
Great videos, look forward to these everytime you post them. Thankyou!
Ronnie Pererson was going to McLaren in 1979, and the announcement was made in Monza, two days before his fatal crash.
Gunnar Nilsson was hired by Arrows in 1978 before he was ill with testicular cancer and eventuallly died of the disease, in october 1978.
This was awesome! Thanks for the compilation ;)
Takuma Sato to Toro Rosso in 200...9(?) that went as far as him testing the car was a weird one. There were also rumours of Olivier Panis moving to Ferrari to replace Irvine for 1998 after his superb start to 1997, with them deciding on Barrichello after Panis couldn't replicate that form post leg break.
Hello,
Regarding Senna to Benetton :
1- The first contact that Senna had with Benetton ( ex Toleman) was at Monaco GP 1990 where Senna invited John Barnard at home to discuss the subject.
John Barnard himself advised Senna that technically Benetton would not be ready for him.
2- Senna that year was in contact with all 4 top teams, Benetton did not was stopped soon, but also Williams, Ferrari and McLaren.
3- The closest to be signed was Ferrari and we all know what happened : politics at Ferrari side
4- The contacts between Senna and Benetton ( Briatore) went public in July 1993 when Schumacher declared, I will tried to translate it in English as precise as possible cause I have read the declaration in French at that time : if Senna comes to Benetton, he will destroy the mood within the team.
So yes, in the plans of Briatore, Senna was supposed to drive alongside Schumacher who was under contract till 1995.
And seems that Schumacher was not happy to have Senna as a teammate.
Spoon face's fans always forgot about this.
This is part of a long series of blocking from Spoon face ( although in that case, if Senna wanted , Spoon face would not have been able to block ) :
Johnny Herbert ( who after having being faster in Argentina , had no more access to Schumacher telemetry and got basically forward fired )
Mika Hakkineen in 2000
Juan-Pablo Montoya in 2001
Jacques Villeneuve in 1997
5- For the record, Senna was aware that Benetton had signed with Renault in early 1994 before even Williams would learn it
Regarding replacement to Mansell :
In order of preference of Frank Williams :
1- Mika Hakkinen
2- Mark Blundell
3- Martin Brundle
It's only because the move from Mika Hakkinen has been sabotaged by Peter Collins , who
1- Threatened Williams who at that time missed the deadline for the subscription to FIA
2- Spread rumours about Mika Hakkinen being totally dumb in settings a car , more than actually he was
3- things taking time till Williams started to ask more (British) people in his team
4- Williams asking Prost ( in French and Prost replying in English) : Prost politically responded that he would prefer Damon Hill who would not be a threat as Mika Hakkinen . He wait for Williams to talk about rumours ( from Peter Collins) to use as an argument after saying, that Hakkinen was fast ( he could not denied it)
5- Meanwhile, Ligier who was also in touch with all 3 : Mika, Martin and Mark , signed the lasts
But choice of Frank Williams was
1/ Mika
2/ Mark
3/Martin
4/ Patrese ( who already signed with Benetton and did not wanted to use any clause to cancel the move)
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Damon Hill
Apparently there was a plan to move Jeff Gordon from NASCAR to BAR-Honda with a year or 2 in CART/Indy Car in between as his training platform into open wheel formula cars. Gordon backed out for a few reasons including Hendrick, his NASCAR team, offering him a fat new contract to keep him there.
Marko tried to lure Montoya to RB for 2007 but JPM had already made his mind up to leave F1. It would have been Juan Pablo who got the top cars likely alongside Vettel. That would have been very interesting, as I think we would all agree Monster was a level above Webber.
Jenson to Ferrari for 2014, he wrote about it in his book
Senna move to Bennetton is well known in Brazil, Briatore called lot of sponsorship from Brazilian industries/business to help him, but most of the Brazilian money makers wanted to see him on Williams, and maybe Ferrari. We know what happened
Villeneuve with Benetton/Renault for 2001. He received two similar contracts from Benetton and BAR but choose to stay with BAR because Craig Pollock said the team would have collapsed without him.
Years after Jacques admitted his instinct told him to leave for Benetton. And considering how his career went after that, it's clearly the turning point of his career. And reputation...
Senna's attempted move to Ferrari for 1995 season (as described by Luca di Montezomolo in recent podcast) should be on the list, if not top of the list
In 94 it has been said, that Senna was going to be moving to Ferrari had he not died at Imola before he could switch teams after talking with Ferrari on the 27th of April..
Paul Tracy to Benetton 1994... what could've been
Wasn't he a tester in that team in 1994?
I remember Dutchman Jan Lammers being on a short list at Scuderia Ferrari, late 1982. Just before he would go on audience with Il Commendatore in Maranello, Lammers broke his thumb. Mario Andretti filled the gap and took pole at Monza.
When the 2006 season began, Alonso had already signed the deal with McLaren for 2007. For a while, it was rumoured that Kimi Raikkonen could have been his replacement.
Again, when Kimi Raikkonen was considering his return to F1 for 2012, he negotiated with Lotus, but also with Williams.
I also remember at the end of 2013, when Raikkonen announced his departure from Lotus to Ferrari, Eric Boullier suggested the Genii Capital Board to hire Nico Hulkenberg for 2014. They went with Pastor Maldonado, because they needed his money.
Valentino Rossi to Ferrari ❤️ That would've been awesome!!!
I think the 2005 button move to Williams should be added in the next video. Yes I know button raced for Williams in his first F1 season in 2000, but the big contract controversy put pay to him returning there in 2005
Derek Warwick staying at Renault instead of moving to Williams
I remember reading that Ferrari also wanted Senna for that 94 season. Not sure if there is any truth to that.
Schumacher to Mclaren for 1996, Heidfeld to Mclaren instead of Kimi.
After his victory in Spain, Pastor Maldonado was flirting with Ferrari and almost signed a contract for 2014.
Alesi to Williams
Didn't Kimi almost joined redbull?
correct for the 2012 season
Lofi Juice and then RedBull would have fired the reigning double World Champion or Mark Webber ? No !
@@Luca33600 yh its true tho they would have got rid of webber
@@doublecub In my undersanding Red Bull considered Kimi for 2014 season, NOT for 2012. 2013 was the year Webber was gonna walk out after what happened in Malaysia (mutli 21) but instead of going for Kimi, Red Bull offered the seat to Ricciardo who was ofc part of their young driver program and they have stuck to their young driver program ever since.
I remember this clearly because there was heck of speculation going on whether Kimi would go to Red Bull or Ferrari. For 2012 the only 2 teams that were speculated were Williams and Lotus.
Senna to Indy? Were there anything real in there or just speculation to get a better deal with McLaren?
Carlos Ferrari I think that was to put pressure on Ron Dennis.
Jenson Button to Toro Rosso for 2009, Rubens Barrichello to McLaren in 2010 and Felipe Massa to McLaren in 2010 and 2014. Wasn't Hulkenberg also linked with Ferrari around the same time as Mercedes interest?
Scott Dixon to Williams in 2004
''What?!'' That one caught me off guard :D
Read this as he said it lol
Senna at benneton with Schumacher would have been epic.
Webber to Ferrari from 2013, Raikkonen to Red Bull from 2014
Just realised Bellof kind of drove for Mercedes.
Verstappen and Jordan had talks for 2004
Verstappen to Jordan could have appeared 3 times! Jordan was interested in signing in 2004 alongside Heidfeld, I think he even did the shakedown at Silverstone.
Bruno Senna was in line to join Honda for 2009 with JB until the team pulled out and Rubens Barrichello stayed on which turned to Brawn Gp.
Moss to Ferrari, Stewart to Ferrari, Senna to Ferrari, and my favourite...
Gilles to McLaren for 1983
Apparently the deal was done... Before Imola it was a consideration, after Imola it was a definite!
@@jamesdyer7960 A pity we never found out. Villeneuve in a Tag-Porsche McLaren could have been epic, although fuel economy driving in the mid 80s might not have been to his liking.
@@gorkab8461 He would have detested the fuel saving garbage but loved full boost balls out qualifying!!! Interestingly Prost may never have got a drive in '84, as if Gilles had signed it would likely have been as Lauda's teammate in '82. Maybe the TAG engine would have come on stream earlier with a real ace like GV in the team.
Fun fact: Hamilton almost went to Red Bull to replace Mark Webber but The Founder offered Webber loyalty and he continued with Red Bull til 2013 and with Hamilton with Mercedes anyway in that season.
Another one was Alonso with Brawn GP (Mercedes) WTF1 mentioned Alonso as “The King of Bad career choices” as he decided to go back to Renault from McLaren rather then join the Honda or Brawn GP team but other than behind the Robert Kubica going to Ferrari Alonso was the Biggest What If he signed with Brawn GP and won that Third title (Sorry Button but I had to be said) and furthermore he could have stayed with Brawn that would become Mercedes and he would have won more than 3 Championships
I watched the '97 race at Monaco yesterday. And the commentator said it was almost sure that Hill would've drove for Stewart in '97 instead of Arrows, but the payment he wished for was too high for Stewart... So they went for Barrichello and Magnussen.
Senna to Benetton for '94: if only it had happened. Hamilton to Williams and Mansell to Arrows: probably fortunate it didn't happen. 🤔
NASCAR champion Jeff Gordon to BAR
Alboreto to Williams in 1988
There was a rumour in those days of Nelson Piquet would replace Capelli for 1992 and 1993 at Ferrari...
But Piquet crashed at Indy 500... Could not confirm about this...
Mika Häkkinen was on his way to Williams twice, but the deal fell through both times. He had already signed with Williams for 1993, but because Williams screwed up their entry, Lotus managed to block the move, Williams went with Damon Hill instead and Mika ended up as McLaren’s test driver before replacing Michael Andretti near the end of the season. He was in talks with Williams again for 2005, but I believe he felt he was too out of shape for F1 and went to DTM instead.
Hello guys ,
Regarding Senna and Benetton : it should have been next to Schumacher. One evidence for that is a declaration of Schumacher in July 1993 where he said that it would be bad for the team as Senna would destroy the atmosphere within the team.
The argument advanced by Schumacher is showing a clear concern that Senna would have been next to him.
Moreover, Schumacher was in contract with Benetton till 1995. It has been signed in 1991 and might have some clause updated during time regarding performance bonuses but the main line was written in 1991.
Everyone was aware that Schumacher was with Benetton till 1995 included. When Dennis approached Schumacher in late 1993 (I think December) in that famous recorded conversation, it was never an approach for 1994 nor 1995 but after that , after the Benetton contract
Also, Senna has discussed with Benetton, in particular John Barnard in 1990, cause Senna's contract of 3 years (1988,1989,1990) was ending at the end of that year. He also discussed with Williams in a more advanced way, and with Ferrari in a very much advanced way.
Regarding second seat at Williams for 1993. The 2 years contract of Prost with Williams ( 1993 and 1994, finally he retired at the end of 1993) was signed at Mexico 1992.
Senna was among the first who had knowledge of that ( he was also aware that Renault had signed with Benetton before even Williams was aware of that)
For the second seat, when it was clear that Mansell will leave cause the way he was treated, ( the famous press conference of Monza 1992 tells a lot) and knowing that there was a veto against Senna and Mansell from Prost, at least for 1993 and that veto against Mansell has been left by Prost, then Williams was interested by Mika Hakkinen .
Mika Hakkinen was in a typical 3 years beginner contract in midfield which through contract, allows the young driver to liberate himself from the contract if he pays some amount, generally decreasing through time.
An example of that if Senna with Toleman . Toleman behaviour was unfair and ridiculous when punishing Senna for talking with Lotus and not allowing him to run the Italian GP at Monza in 1984.
Williams was willing to pay, but Peter Collins (the manager, not the world champion) did not wanted Mika Hakkinen to leave. Williams has missed the deadline for filling the application for the 1993 entries and the FIA bureaucracy wanted all F1 teams to unanimously accept their entries for that. (Today, in Formula Parking Monotype by Duracell called "F1", you can change the name of a team just by being a sponsor , so this is the other extreme of a "Sport" which is in totally decline, but that's another subject) and Peter Collins used this as a threat against Williams. So during this battle, Williams started to include others options , Hill and Brundle.
When Prost was asked ( this is in video of testing, where frank Williams talks to Prost in French, and Prost replies to Williams in English, as courtesy) between Hill and Hakkinen. The discussion ( at least from what is shown in the documentary about Williams preparing 1993) , Williams is starting that all the engineers at Williams are pushing for Hill. Then he said Mika is very fast ... but the same voice are telling me that he does not understand the car. Indeed, Peter Collins was also using his influence to weaken Mika reputation in order to keep him under contract. Prost is not clearly responding but he gives a preference in a very political manner and his preference was for Hill. When Williams said Mika, he asked "Hakkinen" ? It is very obvious
I feel that Williams at that time might have understood the game of Williams but there was another aspect . The entries problem. Williams ha fought as much as possible but gave up and finally having Hill already in the team, they went with him. But he was announced very late, meaning he was never the first choice for Williams. Mika Hakkinen was the first choice for Williams to second Prost when it was clear that Senna was vetoed by Prost, Mansell had enough, Patrese already signed with Benetton ( by the way, they asked him to consider staying when he was at a very much advanced level of discussion with Benetton and Briatore telling him in his languorous and malicious manner that Benetton needed him, he decided to sign ) , so Williams number one choice was Mika and far behind, Hill and Brundle. Mika was so far first choice that Williams begged him to stop discussing with Ligier.
For Mika, the relation with Peter Collins was so bad ( can you imagine a manager trying to retain you by mouthing on you in the paddock directly or using people ?) that anything was better than Lotus.
Ayrton Senna met Luca Cordero di Montezemolo and Jean Todt in a certain acetaia in Serramazzoni, Italy three days before the race in Imola to finalize a transfer for 1995 - they cheered with a spoon of 1960 Acceto to greet the ocassion, and then with a glass of wine. They were in contact for a number of years, but the key breakthrough came after the Pacific GP, when both Senna and JT were flying back in the same plane to Europe. Berger would be out and Ferrari's lineup for 1995 would consist out of Jean Alesi and Ayrton Senna. Money was no problem, and Ferrari accepted to take Ayrton's race engineer and trainer/masseuse/chef with him.
Alonso to Red Bull 2009 if i’m not wrong Alonso wanted at least 2 year contract but Red Bull were only willing to offer 1 year contract