I've read all your comments, check out the follow up video where I discuss why Airsoft is better than Paintball. ua-cam.com/video/51xVw6n1_8M/v-deo.html
I do not know why people make these vids. They just cause arguments and are dumb as hell. I play paintball myself, but it would be 20 times better if the video was titles why I play paintball or something. These videos could also cause tension and arguments with the airsoft community, just stop doing it!🤦♂️
@@justrtist6355 Soft. Dialogue is important and you really don't have any right to tell me how to frame my content. I get you care enough to say something but common. This was done as a thought experiment and I have been playing paintball for deadass like 15 years now
@@zeimeen false. Speedqb is alot more popular in states like cali. And speedsoft isn't speedqb. Speedqb is a game speedsoft is a fast paced play style. Take the amount of people who play indoor or in a small outdoors field (most of them) see how many have acually gone to a milsim. And considering the most popular age for airsoft is 12-16 they aren't even old enough to go to a milsim without an adult there. So how can you call yourself "milsim" if you have never gone to a milsim. You can have camo and military gear but if you haven't gone to a milsim you can't call your self a milsim player.
Both take skills. Both action sports. Both Honor based. Both team building. I am an Airsoft player who respects the paintball community, there is no definitive “better” sport imo.Good Video. “Side note, someone told me a certain type of game mode that made me laugh cause someone is gonna be crazy enough to do it. It’s called Alien Vs Predator : Airsoft vs Paintballers.
WillBallForSoup I have playing for 2 years consistently, every other weekend, no tournament, but if anything Airsoft kinda splits into speedsoft(tournament style) and milsim (re-enactment almost). I’m an active duty US Marine, so weapon familiarity and gear load outs were a seamless transition into the sport from my job. A big kicker that you mentioned in a comment earlier is true , mothers of America don’t want their kids to play with Airsoft guns because they look like the real deal, and with the media’s portrayal of guns no parents wants to put their kid in that environment. As if “Airsoft” was a gateway drug to becoming a school shooter. Paintball has been around longer so it’s more of a norm for a family to get together on a Saturday and play. Which I am jealous of.
TheGuardianWolf Echo doesnt really matter about our ROF dude doesnt matter in tournament speedqb since we are only allowed to walk our triggers on semi lol
@@Kalingas yeah ik that. I was saying that in direct response to the paintball versus airsoft. The rof don't matter yes but the range and being able to accurately shoot it makes a world of difference
I don't mind paintball but I enjoy airsoft more because it is cheeper for someone like me who isn't sponsored and when I went paintballing I got destroyed by players who have been playing for a while and got made fun of. When I played airsofters I also got destroyed, but I got welcomed and was tought how to play.
Alex Derk not saying ur wrong about paintball but whatever field u went to is messed up if u got made fun of for getting shot. I have gone to fields where if I got lit up with paint people called me a “maniac” for running around like that. Idk y tho lol
@@alexderk2331 You are probably a huge pussy if you get made fun of, people sense weakness, and I sense a high estrogen load coming from you....time to change your pad...
Nice Vid Fellas! I made the transition from paintball to airsoft when I was younger (couldn't afford it) and have been actively playing airsoft for over a decade and now have a youtube channel dedicated to the more competitive side of things. As much love as I have for the sport the gripe that Ive always had with airsoft is that since there is no sort of marking system (Paint) I felt that there would never be a way that it could truly become "competitive" BUT here I am now, helping out & participating in the main competitive scene in the airsoft community we call SpeedQb. Which basically rooted from a bunch of OG paintball players bringing a speedball style format to the airsoft community...Why? Because surprisingly there was actually a player base out there for it and now its spreading across the nation. I still agree that Paintball is better than Airsoft from a competitive sport aspect & will never forget my roots, but I do definitely see a rise in "competitive airsoft" which is something that has never really existed in the past. Thanks for this video man, always been a fan of paintball media 👌🏾
Maybe you should come at us with a video about why airsoft is better than paintball. I've watched a few Speed airsoft videos. I think it would benefit from a marking system as well and consistent bunkers. Like for us a Dorito is always the same dimensions, same with the tower and temple bunkers. Healthy disagreement and debate is why we put this video out. Maybe the competetive airsoft scene will change and be more like us.
TheDeeMoe personally both sides have there benefits im a magfed player and play magfed events all around the east speedqb is highly entertaining to watch I love the styles your setups have to the point where my magfed setup is pretty much based of a speedqb setup that wearing minimalist gear and short light setups in order to get around the field faster yes there is no residue from the projectile but traccer units are making it alittle easier for players and refs to see the projectiles make impact but I believe the biggest problem with your game is the toxicity of the players specific in speedsoft deemoe there are multiple videos of you getting magdumped by edgy teens that want to get a couple of views on UA-cam and there are hundreds of videos of just airsoft players being toxic don’t get me wrong paintball has there share of bad apples but they are no where near as rampant as airsoft yes it of course is expensive but makes up for it with the fact there are many different play styles and again as stated in the video a better tornument setup other then that both sports are amazing and I hope to both grow
I love how your argument is not supporting one it the other and stating only facts and your background as a player. I agree with everything you said fully. You've experienced both sides of the argument and it makes you a good source of information. Keep it up settling every debate you find. #fortheculture
Okay, here is my two cents on this matter (from an airsofter) It's true, airsoft is an honesty based sport, but I feel that makes it better, because it builds trust between the players, and while it may be different in other countries or clubs, I've personally never really encountered any cheaters or scammers in the three or so years that I've been playing. Everybody who I've met in the sport has been honest and kind, and when I was new to the sport I was helped a lot by the other, more experienced players. Also there are a lot of airsofters who spend thousands of dollars on camera equipment and film their games, like Novritsch, Desertfoxairsoft, House Gamers, Silo, and countless other channels, many of whom have well over 1M subscribers. Airsoft guns are far, FAR more realistic than paintball markers, some airsoft guns can almost perfectly replicate their real firearm counterparts, and while that may not be for everyone, it's certainly something I love about the sport. There is far more variety among airsoft guns and companies than there is in paintball, with almost every well-known firearm being represented by some airsoft counterpart. If you don't like realistic looking ones, there are countless examples of people and companies making airsoft guns that don't look real, and instead look sci-fi, or something. Airsoft is also a hell of a lot cheaper than paintball, I can buy 4000 airsoft bbs for less than $20 USD, but 4000 paintballs would cost hundreds of dollars, and a decent airsoft gun is only slightly more expensive than a decent paintball marker. Another factor is that airsoft guns have far better ballistics than paintball markers, airsoft guns (from what I've seen) have far greater range and accuracy than paintball guns, and airsoft doesn't hurt nearly as much as paintball, which is better for newer players, and just for people who don't want to get covered in bruises. Anyway, this is just my two cents. I'm not dissing paintball, I just think airsoft is better for the reasons I have mentioned. Sorry for writing an essay.
Actually the intent of this video is to create dialogue so I respect the big ole essay! If I were making a video on the other side, paint prices are kinda inaccessible. On average 2,000 balls is about $50 + or - $10 depending what coast you are closer to. As for other points, you contested those are Jake's. But I feel that to get closer to being recognized as a sport paintball needs to move away from replica firearms. I'll always shoot the "space guns" PS: can you recomend some airsoft tournament videos?
Only thing I may disagree with here is the range. First Strike rounds can hit 250 to 300 feet easy from what I've heard. That being said, those are even more expensive than regular paintballs. And accuracy through volume of fire is also acceptable :)
Cryopinacle sure Airsoft has more realistic factor to it and the rounds are way cheaper but I don’t feel like that was the point of the video. I think the point of the video was to show more of like how the paintball community has more to offer like tournament paintball or like he said More reliable BST platforms
Nah bro airsoft bbs are cheaper and paintball ammo is expensive plus is more messy and is cleaner and airsoft has nv tracers and all the realistic stuff
I playd paintball first then switched to airsoft trust me players are more trigger happy in PB. Plus 8 outta 10 players dont warm the balls up before play so when you get shot they are like Shrapnel shots fucking hurts like hell 8n the sides or hands 🙄
@@JasonFolk07 what the fuck are you talking about. Nobody warms their balls. That will make the balls expand which will make them hurt more. The fact that you describe paintball to shrapnel is insane. It does not hurt badly and if it does only for like 10 second. Man up a bit
Paintball versus air soft is like halo versus counter strike or rainbow six siege. Not dissing paint ball i'm just saying it is two different games and two different play styles.
first off i will state i have 6-7 years of paintball and I only played airsoft like 10 times so their is bias i live in Canada and magfed is super large here, it takes normal paintballs and fsr shaped projectiles and in total is much more realistic then most airsoft. for one there is more structure because you can not drop 700bb's so fire fights feel like fire fights with guns/markers that have recoil and take real steel parts and because the mass they carry they are much less effected then light bushes and wind. saying airsoft is more realistic is like saying call of duty is realistic, i have no problem with airsoft and some people do get in groups to play tactically but as a whole it does not feel as realistic as some good magfed
Mumpel Tier I’ve owned and used both air soft guns and paintball markers that are based on ar-15 frames, both were around $7-800. The paintball stuff, in almost all situations has a greater recoil compared to airsoft. It has much larger scale internals, and is using much more air to move a much larger and heavier projectile. And I agree with his point, when using a magfed paintball marker it feels much more genuine than using an airsoft gun. It, in fact, has a greater amount of recoil and a much more accurate (as compared to real steel) magazine size. The size, weight, and feel were also basically exactly the same. Also the paintball stuff had a much larger customization community, with an insane variety of product parts and custom made ones. Though, just the same for both, it depends on whether or not you have an effective team with good communication in a good environment to play against other good players also playing magfed to get the most “”””genuine”””” experience
Yeah paintball is just less realistic and this is coming from a paintball player i would honestly rather play airsoft especially since i dont have to spend so much damn money on paintballs
5010MTB1013 your the person to cheat on an airsoft field because the refs couldn’t catch you cheating i bet they would have caught you in paintball though
I know this vid is kinda old, so my comment probably won’t get any attention, but I’d like to say some stuff as an airsofter heading into paintball. I just competed in my first paintball tournament (2019 winter classic at lonewolf) a few days ago, and it was definitely better than my experience with airsoft. Airsoft seemed to be less social. In the airsoft staging area (at my field anyhow) nobody really talked to anybody outside of their group, but at my local paintball field, everyone talks to everyone. Also, at the winter classic, one of my teammates only brought a co2 gun, so he had to use a rental for a tournament. But, for like 3-5 out of our 8 matches, other teams in higher divisions offered to let my friend use their guns instead of his rental. Basically, the paintball community seems more social and more open to new players, but both communities are great.
Mr.X you can play paintball in the woods paintballs don’t stain and wash off long range depends on what gun you get paintball feels like battle and you can get guns that look like real weapons in paintball if you get mag fed
As a paintballer myself, i feel that this video is exremelly biased towards paintball. You're throwing shit at another community of people that at the end of the day, aren't that much different from us. Plus you're comparing speedballing to airsoft, which is often scenario or milsim based. Speedball games are usually not more than 7 minutes, whereas an airsoft game can span for days at a time. One focuses on agility, and the other focuses on endurance. You can't really compare the two. There should not be a why this is better than that, but more of a mutual respect for both communities. Just do what you like to do, and don't hate on someone for doing something they like. I have seen fat paintballers and i've seen fat airsofters. Shit like this only breeds toxicity. Toxicity only leads to the destruction of a community, which ultimately leads to friendships lost. If you're not in this for fun with your friends at the end of the day, why are you even doing it?
@@senacheshmehkaboodi6867 it’s more exciting but can be compared Bc nascar has a mentally defective cousin dirt oval racing which is kinda fun to watch
I have 20 years paintball exp and about 8 years airsoft. Whats better.. Well at my local fields the FPS limit is like 270 Max. Witch means you need to be around 265. Thats really slow and anyone over like 50 60 feet is a Long ball rainbow shot. Not long ago 300fps and 290s were fine. thats a HUGE change. If you ask me what is Better they Both have strong ups and downs. Cost is about 2x more expensive for paintball. And if you play Sniper you could spend under 40 for a full days play. Most people are UNDER 50 for a Full day play. VS 70 a case and 25 walk on. Some people say its easy to cheat in airsoft. Nobody calls hits... I SAY bull shit... If you go to a Quality airsoft field with good refs and rules there will be Little to zero cheating. Or not enough to care about. In my experience YES I was sure I got that guy but he didnt call it... That happens in paintball just the same. I dont think one is better then the other its all personal taste. However Airsoft IS 100% More tactical and team focused with objectives like a MILSIM. Yes airsoft is WAY WAY more accurate and YES people use optics all the time. If you dont think airsoft is more accurate go check out some airsoft sniper videos of Noverich. He gets head shots at 200 feet all day long. That is IMPOSSIBLE in paintball.... I should make a video on both BC I have played both LOTS... Airsoft is amazing though.
No hate to the paint ball community but I genuinely think airsoft is a better sport. The first reason why I think Air Soft is better than paintball is the cost. You can get 10,000 Airsoft BBs for 15 bucks. While paintball markers can be hundreds of dollars for 10,000 rounds. You also have to clean your equipment every time you go out to play paintball. There’s also the fact that airsoft does not hurt as much as paintball so it’s easier for kids or people that are knew to the spot to get into it. Airsoft guns are also more accurate. Airsoft guns now have flat hop buckings and tight bore inner barrels. My third reason is that Airsoft now has speedQB which if you don’t know, it’s basically speedball. My fourth reason is the diversity in airsoft. You can be a Milsom person that likes long, realistic games or you can be a spead softer and have faster pace more competitive games. There is also a lot more choices in guns you can choose. For example, you can have a sniper, pistol, AR, SMG, LMG, and more. You can also have gas blowback guns, HPA guns, and AEG’s. I also think the argument that the people community is more tightly knit and Air Soft community is a bias statement. I say this because the community depends on what field you go to and energy that you put out. You can have a totally bad experience at this one day but then go back the next day to the same Field and have a way better experience. It all depends on how you see it and the people you choose to play with The advantage that paintball has is there a ranking system. Love the video. Thanks for all the hard work.
Paintball seems like Overwatch whereas it is not as realistic and not as practical but has a large following. Airsoft seems more like rainbow 6 siege because it's more practical and realistic and has a smaller community. Although I can definitely say both are fun.
I play airsoft and i like it because it is an honor system, you have to be able to trust others. Sure thats not always the case but i also like it because it's more tactical. But i want to get into painball.
You guys may notice a section of voice over is missing, this censorship needed to happen because we discussed Paintball markers and Airsoft guns compared to real world firearms. While I don't hate military simulation paintball, the future of our sport is dependent on distancing ourselves from real firearms. It's just an easier sell to the parents of younger players. On the airsoft side, all airsoft guns are near replicas of real firearms.
I dont disagree about it being an easier sell, but I think paintball just needs to accept that it isnt and never will be a large market sport. Play to all aspects of the game, including milsim, because ultimately not that many moms are ever going to even think about their kid and paintball. An even smaller amount of parents that put thought into their kid and paintball will actually care about the "military replica" aspect. So yeah those 5 moms that dont let their kids play cuz the guns are scary probs arent going to be appeased anyway.
I can seriously remember the day my liberal neighbors mom came over and said that her kid wasn't allowed to shoot my 98custom with M4 style stock because it was like "training with a firearm". He was never allowed to go to the field with me and we had a slow falling out from that point forward.
WillBallForSoup i was introduced to the sport about a year ago freshman year by some of my friends who play and I love it, I have an Etha 2 spire ir virtue mask ninja tank and I have the same skill set as my friends who play. And if anything my parents encourage me to play and they want me to play because it’s keeping me happy, active and fit. Just seeing my parents encouraging me to play paintball and my love for the sport, I will never leave. It’s insane to hear that about your neighbors mom tho, it’s really stupid
We were super young, like 13 or something and I only played a hanfull of times a year at big games."I don't want my son to be around guns" was her point of view. Chicago has some super hardcore left wingers
Yes but the problem is that everyone group paintball with airsoft, doesn't matter what you like ir think you airsoft players will always compare yourself to paintball because we work hard to get that notoriety around the world
"We're gonna be going with objective points." Point 2 "the community is more tightknit" cool, please express that for me in an objective measure. Couldn't even make it to number 2.
Jake's point is that he sees more collaboration and vigalance to identify and recover gear from scammers in the PB community compared to the airsoft community. He could have chosen something more objective, but I'm not going to censor the man.
Personally, I disagree. I am fine with paintball, I love both sports, but with these points, I disagree. 1. Nope, people do bat an eye when they get scammed in airsoft. Gear in airsoft is very expensive. People are killed because of scams and oversells. We care too, trust me. 2. We have tournament ranks in airsoft too. You either play a casual, close to unranked matches in video games. Or you can do tournaments. Tournaments are heavily monitored and ranked, cheating can get you banned from almost every field. 3. We have pro media players too. Airsoft is televised elsewhere and there's tons on social media. Not just UA-cam, but almost any platform. Twitch I believe has airsoft. (I think). As a final note: I love both sports. I play primarily airsoft but from time to time I play paintball as well. Both games have pros and cons, ups and downs, and both hurt sometimes. You had some good points, but they had easy solutions. Good video, that's a sub!
This made me look at paintball a little differently, I was pretty dismissive. But saying that, I don't think I can get over the higher cost, it's such a massive drawback, I want to be able to spray bb's into the forest and not have to worry about ammo or c02 costs
Lots of respect to PBRML. I've reached out to some of my industry contacts to get more information. However, everything is being kept very close to the chest at this point in regards to the shut down.
I know this video is 2 years old and not gonna get attention but, I haven't had any experience with either sport but i think with the budget i have I might be able to start paintball better than airsoft, but then again i look at videos on UA-cam so i can get prepared and don't find any on what you'll need to maintain a paintball gun or how to maintain and clean one, or how to start properly with all the gear, and the paint seems a bit expensive sometimes, but idk. I look at the airsoft side and there's more videos out there going in detail with gear and things.
"paintball is more athletic" okay try going on a 20 mile 1 week airsoft military simulation where you're running around with the same gear as legitimate soldiers on missions for an entire week
Right, because you don't need any athleticism to run around with padding and a solid metal gun on an area NOT made out of a bunch of stitched together kids' bouncy houses and is bigger than my playground was in elementary school, correct?
Paintball isn’t better than airsoft, but airsoft isn’t better either. They are 2 different sports and it really depends on what people enjoy. Airsoft is often more customizable, and more realistic. Airsoft is made as a war game, while paintball is made as a hardcore nerf game in a way. Paintball is made as a sport. Its like ballgames, they take lots of skill and athleticism, but are made in a way people will want to watch. Airsoft on the other hand is generally more slower paced and endurance based (other than CQB). In paintball you see tournaments of lots of short fast paced games. In airsoft on the other hand the games are normally longer, and instead of tournaments we have milsims (military simulation games, which can last anywhere from a day to a week) and the pace of the game is based on where you are, the game-mode, how the other players are playing, and your play style. While there are successful airsoft videos and videographers like novrich, jet desert fox, and house gamer airsoft. It’s generally not made to be watched. In paintball every moment is filmed and shown, in airsoft on the other hand, out of hours of playing there might only be half and hour of video worth showing. I. The end which one is better is more a mater of opinion. While there are some facts involved, like airsoft being more realistic, or how paintball has better ways to stop cheating, it dose mostly come down to how people want to play and watch.
You make some good points. Been playing Airsoft for 7 years, never played Paintball even though there are good paintball and Airsoft sites near to me, but the one thing that has put me off trying out Paintball is the cost of ammo. Paintball has to be better for competitive games, although my concern is only having fun and I'm sure I would have a great time playing either Airsoft or Paintball.
@@carsontodd9267 Markers were created for marking cattle. The sport probably started with local farm boys thinking it would be fun to shoot at each other lol.
When he talks about getting spammed, I got pissed. I play airsoft and this guy doesn’t. He doesn’t actually know what the true community is like. The airsoft community always has your back. And to inform you, there are many more veterans and honorable people in airsoft, whole paintball is filled with tons of kids who play fortnite for a living
That’s hilarious Cus almost no children play paintball kids simply can’t afford it I was just at the field last weekend and saw one kid and over 100 adults playing paintball
You forgot to mention that paintball costs more in the long run because of how expensive the paint is compared to the bb's yes airsoft can be very expensive at first but after you buy your gear the bb's cost nothing. Also in airsoft you can use tracer bb's making it very easy to see where the bb's are going and who's hit because of how bright it shines when it hits them. Airsoft can be pretty competitive but not to the point where there's pro players.
@@evanstevens9865 I think there’s more variation in paintball guns because you have speedball style markers and markers that replicate real guns. But there’s more customization with airsoft guns when it comes to attachments. Attachments are more useful on airsoft guns whereas attachments for paintball guns are more often just for show. Like a red dot sight on a paintball gun is useless. Late reply but I fell into the 3am youtube rabbit hole
I enjoy playing paintball, mainly speedball, because it is unlike any other sport/activity. The gun is unlike a real gun, however it is just as customizable and enjoyable to shoot. Every part of your gear allows for high customizability, and their is such a wide range of products and styles, anyone considering the sport is bound to find something they truly enjoy using. The sport requires team tactics, personal finesse, and reactionary thinking. Besides that, it is a very athletically demanding sport for those who want to make it more intensive, and for those who may not be the most athletic, they can still enjoy the sport just as much at their own pace. This allows for a range of versatility among styles of play, and allows a wide range of age groups to be competitive among each other. What other sport can you think of where a team of 5 people with ages from 12, 16, 21, 35, 40, can all be playing on the same team at the same competitive level?
that pretty much describes airsoft just as well. I like both hobbies but i ended up doing airsoft since the paintball comunity is was and is sadly pretty dead where i live.
I totally agree with all of these points. Especially the first two, airsoft is widely known (at least in my area) for cheating. And I’m in a BST group, and found a Etek 4 and Dye Rotor for $300 and delivered perfectly. Also keep up the great content!
Not really (although some players definitely fit in that category lol) but I play airsoft because i like the realism (not wannabe soldier) and it's just having fun, and I can go out for a night play airsoft hop in my car maybe go eat or to the movies. Last time I played paintball it was kinda annoying with all the paint.
These reasons didn’t change anything to a future airsofter’s career. I will still be excited to live my passion using non-dangerous firearms that are way more immersive than any airsoft craft. Although it’s fun knowing different other inventions will still compete for the best shooting sport title in case airsoft becomes illegal.
You've clearly never played airsoft or spent much researching it. All your points are biased and irrelevant, learn to make a proper comparison. Airsoft isn't meant to be paintball, it's what paintball isn't. It's not meant to be a direct upgrade or downgrade, it's just a different flavour. I like both but prefer milsim over speedball, I like moving with a unit of guys that all have specific roles. Its slower yes but that's part of the fun. Either sport is what you make it to be
Airsoft is Astronomically less expensive. Airsoft is insanely more diverse. (Speedsoft and Milsim and Rentals OH MY) Easier to get into/less complex. More customizability across the board. We have CQB, Field, Operations, And Backyard airsoft. Paintball their is one, maybe two kinds of fields. (This one’s petty) Paintball guns look ridiculous
in my opinion, airsoft is no different. this video is mainly based on perspective when the speakers likely lack knowledge on the sport of airsoft. I am a frequent airsoft player and I can ensure you where I play it's literally no different referring to the points made in this video against airsoft. Most airsofters play because of the realism of the sport. What I'm trying to get at is there's no point in comparing the two because they're different sports and even though I said they possess lots of the same things they still are two different sports that offer different things and I don't understand the point of making a video trying to claim one as "better" Thank you
as an airsofter who plays speedsoft, (a type of airsoft game that is nearly identical to tournament styled paintball) i like seeing that all of these fun and athletic traits of paintball are coming over to airsoft and we might even end up getting our own ways to stream speedsoft and just to have a similar platform that tournament styled paintball does. even though i strictly play airsoft, i have no problem with paintball players.
I agree with alot of this but I'd argue that they're mostly based on the maturity of the sport. Airsoft is maturing into speedQB while still keeping milsim and woods ball very much alive. As far as the community sticking up for each other that's a real up that paintball has. How ever in tournament play airsoft will most likely always be on smaller more fast paced fields simply because of the paint vs BB marking system.
The best thing ive seen before with both airsoft and paintball players is that at times ive seen both sports making fun of each other saying who is better but i saw one paintball video that a kid was making fun of paintball telling the youtuber that he need to play a "real sport" like football or basketball and both airsofters and paintballers defended the channel. I remember one airsoft player told the kid that only paintballer and airsofter players can make fun and pick on each other but people in other sports should interfere with the sport and that right there earned my respect with both airsofters and paintballers
I played airsoft alot back in the day until my local field got so toxic that it felt like someone left a bunch of waist barrels everywhere so I stoped playing. But I have only had good experiences playing paintball. Even know I quit airsoft for obvious reasons I still respect it as well as paintball.
I play both Airsoft and Paintball, but I like paintball MORE because it’s harder for players to cheat and not to call hits and get away with it, but in airsoft players can cheat very easily because no marks were left unless you hit their skin.
I disagree with your point on athleticism because in airsoft you have stuff like milsim were you march and run for miles, you also have to carry your gear that can get pretty heavy
Actually in airsoft we have a tournament play style called “speedsoft” or “speedqb” which is very similar to paintball its mostly popular on the west coast, the california area and it involves a 5v5 match that has a similar layout to speedball fields (can, dorito, snake etc.) but instead of pressing the buzzer 1 person from each team is given the task to rush to the flag in the beginning break off of the round to the collect the flag they must take back to the opposite side of theirs. Also to “counter” the problem of people not calling their hits most players use flashlights and or tracer units to track where their rounds are going. As a speedqb player idk why we still have this kind of beef with paintball players but i do highly respect the sport and love both
I thought you guys have more beef with the milsim players. If I was in airsoft I would be in speedqb. The playstyle of speedsoft is better suited than milsim. Milsim seems to be pretentious.
I am an airsofter and I wouldn't disagree with a lot of your points. I think the main problem with airsoft is that our community is smaller, and the fact that we use bbs, not paint something that indeed does make a difference. Airsoft is a sport which is more for fun in my opinion, and something that will never be truely competitive. While, I love Speedqb and think its amazing, airsoft will simply never be able to compete with paintball on the competitive level. Anyway, awesome video I actually enjoyed it!
7 reasons why airsoft is better 1. Its cheaper for better products 2. The projectile isn't the size of 50 cal. 3. The guns look better in airsoft 4. It builds trust (have to call your hit) 5. Can wear pretty much anything without ruining it with pain t 6. Who hides behind balloons in a fire fight? 7. Its not spray and pray for the most part. Much more tactical in airsoft
Are we not going to talk about how much it costs for paintball, just 1000 rounds in paintball costs $30 while in airsoft you can get 10000 rounds for 30 dollars.
SO by my name you can tell i obviously play airsoft. but i didn't stick to airsoft, just because i play it more. yes i played paint ball more, and yes it was a lot of fun, but airsoft and paint ball have a difrent feel. when your on a big map in airsoft, and flank the whole enimie team and end up killing most of them, theirs just something about that that is so satisfying and u cant find else where. but also in paint ball the feeling of lineing up with ur guns pointed down, and the sound of the wistle blowing and u sprinting to where ever ur going, and calling out the enimes is also something like nothing else. I will say paint ball is really fun because of the team work, but airsoft is also fun because u can play it how u want to, for example i play as a "speed softer" (which is coppied from speed ball in paintball) and its a fast paced style of play. and yes paint ball had woods ball for those who like military simulation. i think that both are really fun, and if u havnt tried out both u have no room to be talking.
At the cost of half the players cheating lol that's not fun and it can be more realistic that just makes you a psychopath for wanting to shoot someone lol ( just kidding) but airsoft is trash and takes no skill.
I personally like airsoft more than paintball. I’ve played paintball for 1 year and if I’m being honest, it got boring. Not because it wasn’t fun I was just scared because I shot In the neck so I would always stay in the back. So when I started to play airsoft, I had more fun because it was more realistic and i loved that. I’ve played airsoft for 3 years and enjoyed everytime I played. That’s my personal opinion
As an airsofter, I enjoy airsoft more because it's more realistic. Yes, there's flaws, biggest one is probably calling shots. But technology is evolving.
I’ve played airsoft for quite a few years, and I feel most of the points made in this video would be valid if it weren’t for the fact that “competitive” airsoft isn’t really that huge. Just look at the views and video saturation of “airsoft tournament” vs “milsim” or “sniping” its a massive gap. Airsoft is marketed mostly as a military simulation (although it will never be truly accurate mad respect to those who serve) and I’ve read a lot of the comments basically saying the same thing. If you live in Cali you probably think competitive airsoft is huge. Go basically anywhere else and it’s non existent. Also the whole “the average airsoft player is 12-16” is definitively not true. Like at all. Maybe in the us it might be, but literally anywhere else in the world it’s probably 18+. I’ve been to every field in my state and it’s 80% people in their 20s. That’s my little opinion thanks for reading.
i don’t know much about airsoft but ik in paintball you can sign up for a redit and facebook bst and buy a older high end tournament setup for 600 and it would be a awesome setup
Tournaments in airsoft really aren't popular among the majority of the players of airsoft, unlike paint ball, where if you play paintball whether you are a casual player or not, you are probably well aware of the professional fields in paintball.
I like both airsoft and paintball but i will say paintball imo has airsoft beat. No matter how good your airsoft gun is you still won't be able to paint splatter people. So if you get someone out in airsoft they are more likely to cheat because not everyone plays by the rules unfortunately
I’ve played both and paintball is much more expensive and the reason I like airport better is because of how much cheaper it is and it doesn’t make your clothing dirty.
As an airsofter personally I play airsoft instead of paintball because I love the military. I've grown up in a military family and military history and uniforms, gear, etc. So I play airsoft for re-enactment purposes and the weapons. I've had many chances to play paintball but the same Interest is just not there. I don't intend to continue playing airsoft after highschool because it's just a hobby that I'm going to replace. I also don't do airsoft competitively nor do I take it seriously. I have nothing against paintball it's just not my cup of tea.
My 86 cents is that airsoft is for more realistic action. There is so many types of guns. For example ive seen WW2 reenactments and Vietnam reenactments. I think paintball is more of a sport. I think the best way to determine which one is "better" is to get some paintball teams with their paintball guns vs some airsoft guys with their airsoft guns and see who wins. You know
Side note, I do wish that there was some ranking system or gameplay organization. I hate when my team is made up of a 10 year old kid who has never even shot a nerf gun, 3 teenage speedsofters that think we are playing paintball, 3, 40 year old ex military milsim guys and a dude renting a gun who doesn’t even leave the respawn because he’s too scared to get hit.. at least if it was divided up by age everyone would have a better time. P.S. kids 14 and younger never call their hits
It just depends on your budget, and more importantly: your community. Neither one sport is truly better; it just depends on those two aforementioned things.
Ok so im leaving America and Moving to the Philippines and I wanted to join a team but couldn't and so I went on facebook and one post opened up sooo many options for me. This is why I love paintball becuase of how much people care about other people and will help them as much as they can.
Also u cant say anything about airsoft if u havent been to a field, my field has profesinal people take our photos while we are playing and they send them to us
I personally like paintball because of the markers and just the paintballs in general. I can see why people would like airsoft better but it all depends on personal experience and opinion
I believe we are comparing apples to oranges here. Comparing a sport to a hobby...of course paintball is superior. You need to compare paintball to the competitive Airsoft games that have risen lately, Speedqb.
Actually, because airsoft is not commonly played as speedsoft, a more accurate comparison would be the large paintball tournaments compared to the huge airsoft milsim events like Armored War 8, which had over 3000 players, and involved tanks, armored vehicles, and aircraft.
I've read all your comments, check out the follow up video where I discuss why Airsoft is better than Paintball. ua-cam.com/video/51xVw6n1_8M/v-deo.html
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I do not know why people make these vids. They just cause arguments and are dumb as hell. I play paintball myself, but it would be 20 times better if the video was titles why I play paintball or something. These videos could also cause tension and arguments with the airsoft community, just stop doing it!🤦♂️
@@justrtist6355 Soft. Dialogue is important and you really don't have any right to tell me how to frame my content. I get you care enough to say something but common. This was done as a thought experiment and I have been playing paintball for deadass like 15 years now
I feel like most of these points are around tournament airsoft wich is almost non existent
I did some background research and watched a few airsoft tournament videos. They apparently are a thing.
Nope
There is speedqb tournaments all the time
@@TGWecho and speedqb is just such a small comunity compared to milsim. Airsoft does not equal speedsoft
@@zeimeen false. Speedqb is alot more popular in states like cali. And speedsoft isn't speedqb. Speedqb is a game speedsoft is a fast paced play style. Take the amount of people who play indoor or in a small outdoors field (most of them) see how many have acually gone to a milsim. And considering the most popular age for airsoft is 12-16 they aren't even old enough to go to a milsim without an adult there. So how can you call yourself "milsim" if you have never gone to a milsim. You can have camo and military gear but if you haven't gone to a milsim you can't call your self a milsim player.
Both take skills.
Both action sports.
Both Honor based.
Both team building.
I am an Airsoft player who respects the paintball community, there is no definitive “better” sport imo.Good Video.
“Side note, someone told me a certain type of game mode that made me laugh cause someone is gonna be crazy enough to do it. It’s called Alien Vs Predator : Airsoft vs Paintballers.
Thanks for chiming in with a reasonable point of view. Curious if you have played an airsoft tournament? How did it go?
WillBallForSoup I have playing for 2 years consistently, every other weekend, no tournament, but if anything Airsoft kinda splits into speedsoft(tournament style) and milsim (re-enactment almost). I’m an active duty US Marine, so weapon familiarity and gear load outs were a seamless transition into the sport from my job. A big kicker that you mentioned in a comment earlier is true , mothers of America don’t want their kids to play with Airsoft guns because they look like the real deal, and with the media’s portrayal of guns no parents wants to put their kid in that environment. As if “Airsoft” was a gateway drug to becoming a school shooter. Paintball has been around longer so it’s more of a norm for a family to get together on a Saturday and play. Which I am jealous of.
Airsoft will win lol. We have insane rof and range compared to paint ball
TheGuardianWolf Echo doesnt really matter about our ROF dude doesnt matter in tournament speedqb since we are only allowed to walk our triggers on semi lol
@@Kalingas yeah ik that. I was saying that in direct response to the paintball versus airsoft. The rof don't matter yes but the range and being able to accurately shoot it makes a world of difference
I don't mind paintball but I enjoy airsoft more because it is cheeper for someone like me who isn't sponsored and when I went paintballing I got destroyed by players who have been playing for a while and got made fun of. When I played airsofters I also got destroyed, but I got welcomed and was tought how to play.
Alex Derk not saying ur wrong about paintball but whatever field u went to is messed up if u got made fun of for getting shot. I have gone to fields where if I got lit up with paint people called me a “maniac” for running around like that. Idk y tho lol
By that I mean that people didn’t care if I was bad they saw me covered in paint and they were always nice
@@fez8154 yeah maybe but that is the only field near me so I choose airsoft.
Alex Derk exactly
@@alexderk2331 You are probably a huge pussy if you get made fun of, people sense weakness, and I sense a high estrogen load coming from you....time to change your pad...
Nice Vid Fellas!
I made the transition from paintball to airsoft when I was younger (couldn't afford it) and have been actively playing airsoft for over a decade and now have a youtube channel dedicated to the more competitive side of things. As much love as I have for the sport the gripe that Ive always had with airsoft is that since there is no sort of marking system (Paint) I felt that there would never be a way that it could truly become "competitive" BUT here I am now, helping out & participating in the main competitive scene in the airsoft community we call SpeedQb. Which basically rooted from a bunch of OG paintball players bringing a speedball style format to the airsoft community...Why? Because surprisingly there was actually a player base out there for it and now its spreading across the nation. I still agree that Paintball is better than Airsoft from a competitive sport aspect & will never forget my roots, but I do definitely see a rise in "competitive airsoft" which is something that has never really existed in the past. Thanks for this video man, always been a fan of paintball media 👌🏾
Maybe you should come at us with a video about why airsoft is better than paintball. I've watched a few Speed airsoft videos. I think it would benefit from a marking system as well and consistent bunkers.
Like for us a Dorito is always the same dimensions, same with the tower and temple bunkers.
Healthy disagreement and debate is why we put this video out. Maybe the competetive airsoft scene will change and be more like us.
Ohh and got you on that Sub 💯
TheDeeMoe personally both sides have there benefits im a magfed player and play magfed events all around the east speedqb is highly entertaining to watch I love the styles your setups have to the point where my magfed setup is pretty much based of a speedqb setup that wearing minimalist gear and short light setups in order to get around the field faster yes there is no residue from the projectile but traccer units are making it alittle easier for players and refs to see the projectiles make impact but I believe the biggest problem with your game is the toxicity of the players specific in speedsoft deemoe there are multiple videos of you getting magdumped by edgy teens that want to get a couple of views on UA-cam and there are hundreds of videos of just airsoft players being toxic don’t get me wrong paintball has there share of bad apples but they are no where near as rampant as airsoft yes it of course is expensive but makes up for it with the fact there are many different play styles and again as stated in the video a better tornument setup other then that both sports are amazing and I hope to both grow
I love how your argument is not supporting one it the other and stating only facts and your background as a player. I agree with everything you said fully. You've experienced both sides of the argument and it makes you a good source of information. Keep it up settling every debate you find. #fortheculture
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Okay, here is my two cents on this matter (from an airsofter)
It's true, airsoft is an honesty based sport, but I feel that makes it better, because it builds trust between the players, and while it may be different in other countries or clubs, I've personally never really encountered any cheaters or scammers in the three or so years that I've been playing. Everybody who I've met in the sport has been honest and kind, and when I was new to the sport I was helped a lot by the other, more experienced players.
Also there are a lot of airsofters who spend thousands of dollars on camera equipment and film their games, like Novritsch, Desertfoxairsoft, House Gamers, Silo, and countless other channels, many of whom have well over 1M subscribers.
Airsoft guns are far, FAR more realistic than paintball markers, some airsoft guns can almost perfectly replicate their real firearm counterparts, and while that may not be for everyone, it's certainly something I love about the sport. There is far more variety among airsoft guns and companies than there is in paintball, with almost every well-known firearm being represented by some airsoft counterpart. If you don't like realistic looking ones, there are countless examples of people and companies making airsoft guns that don't look real, and instead look sci-fi, or something.
Airsoft is also a hell of a lot cheaper than paintball, I can buy 4000 airsoft bbs for less than $20 USD, but 4000 paintballs would cost hundreds of dollars, and a decent airsoft gun is only slightly more expensive than a decent paintball marker.
Another factor is that airsoft guns have far better ballistics than paintball markers, airsoft guns (from what I've seen) have far greater range and accuracy than paintball guns, and airsoft doesn't hurt nearly as much as paintball, which is better for newer players, and just for people who don't want to get covered in bruises.
Anyway, this is just my two cents. I'm not dissing paintball, I just think airsoft is better for the reasons I have mentioned. Sorry for writing an essay.
Actually the intent of this video is to create dialogue so I respect the big ole essay! If I were making a video on the other side, paint prices are kinda inaccessible. On average 2,000 balls is about $50 + or - $10 depending what coast you are closer to. As for other points, you contested those are Jake's. But I feel that to get closer to being recognized as a sport paintball needs to move away from replica firearms. I'll always shoot the "space guns" PS: can you recomend some airsoft tournament videos?
Only thing I may disagree with here is the range. First Strike rounds can hit 250 to 300 feet easy from what I've heard. That being said, those are even more expensive than regular paintballs. And accuracy through volume of fire is also acceptable :)
Cryopinacle sure Airsoft has more realistic factor to it and the rounds are way cheaper but I don’t feel like that was the point of the video. I think the point of the video was to show more of like how the paintball community has more to offer like tournament paintball or like he said More reliable BST platforms
If you're looking for airsoft tournaments look into the speedqb tournaments on youtube.
For 2000 paintballs it only costs me around 25€ so its more like €50 rather than hundreds thats what it is in europe anyway
"Why shooting someone with paint is better than shooting someone with plastic”
Nah bro airsoft bbs are cheaper and paintball ammo is expensive plus is more messy and is cleaner and airsoft has nv tracers and all the realistic stuff
@@gerzz9308 okay but how much are those attachments?
@@ThugPepe69 like 50-70 bucks not that much
I playd paintball first then switched to airsoft trust me players are more trigger happy in PB. Plus 8 outta 10 players dont warm the balls up before play so when you get shot they are like Shrapnel shots fucking hurts like hell 8n the sides or hands 🙄
@@JasonFolk07 what the fuck are you talking about. Nobody warms their balls. That will make the balls expand which will make them hurt more. The fact that you describe paintball to shrapnel is insane. It does not hurt badly and if it does only for like 10 second. Man up a bit
Paintball versus air soft is like halo versus counter strike or rainbow six siege. Not dissing paint ball i'm just saying it is two different games and two different play styles.
first off i will state i have 6-7 years of paintball and I only played airsoft like 10 times so their is bias
i live in Canada and magfed is super large here, it takes normal paintballs and fsr shaped projectiles and in total is much more realistic then most airsoft.
for one there is more structure because you can not drop 700bb's so fire fights feel like fire fights with guns/markers that have recoil and take real steel parts and because the mass they carry they are much less effected then light bushes and wind.
saying airsoft is more realistic is like saying call of duty is realistic, i have no problem with airsoft and some people do get in groups to play tactically but as a whole it does not feel as realistic as some good magfed
Mumpel Tier
I’ve owned and used both air soft guns and paintball markers that are based on ar-15 frames, both were around $7-800. The paintball stuff, in almost all situations has a greater recoil compared to airsoft. It has much larger scale internals, and is using much more air to move a much larger and heavier projectile.
And I agree with his point, when using a magfed paintball marker it feels much more genuine than using an airsoft gun. It, in fact, has a greater amount of recoil and a much more accurate (as compared to real steel) magazine size. The size, weight, and feel were also basically exactly the same. Also the paintball stuff had a much larger customization community, with an insane variety of product parts and custom made ones.
Though, just the same for both, it depends on whether or not you have an effective team with good communication in a good environment to play against other good players also playing magfed to get the most “”””genuine”””” experience
Yeah paintball is just less realistic and this is coming from a paintball player i would honestly rather play airsoft especially since i dont have to spend so much damn money on paintballs
5010MTB1013 your the person to cheat on an airsoft field because the refs couldn’t catch you cheating i bet they would have caught you in paintball though
@@raisinbran4989 Airsoft guns can also be full metal...
I know this vid is kinda old, so my comment probably won’t get any attention, but I’d like to say some stuff as an airsofter heading into paintball. I just competed in my first paintball tournament (2019 winter classic at lonewolf) a few days ago, and it was definitely better than my experience with airsoft. Airsoft seemed to be less social. In the airsoft staging area (at my field anyhow) nobody really talked to anybody outside of their group, but at my local paintball field, everyone talks to everyone. Also, at the winter classic, one of my teammates only brought a co2 gun, so he had to use a rental for a tournament. But, for like 3-5 out of our 8 matches, other teams in higher divisions offered to let my friend use their guns instead of his rental.
Basically, the paintball community seems more social and more open to new players, but both communities are great.
I actually read every comment fam. I'm glad your first paintball event was a positive experience and the local scene embraced you.
At the end of the day it's whatever you enjoy more... I know that's cheesy but I mean there really is no "this is better then this"
My way of looking at it is more 'Paintball is better for me and here's why' but it's ok for others to have their own preferences.
I would just git a Dye Rize or a 98 custom and play recreational paintball at a local field for a while to get into the atmosphere
airsoft is da best
@@marqusparkergaming5622 how when he said it’s better for him smh 🤦🏾♂️ ignorant 🙄
@@e-jeezybeats1591 stfu
Reasons Airsolfs are better
Longer range
Way cheaper ammo
Clean sport
Feels like a battle
Realistic weapons
Can play on the forest
Mr.X you can play paintball in the woods paintballs don’t stain and wash off long range depends on what gun you get paintball feels like battle and you can get guns that look like real weapons in paintball if you get mag fed
@@Jw0ndr nope
Mr.X tell me what I said wrong lol
@@Jw0ndr you said that they look like real guns .hmmm ok whatever
Mr.X if you get mag fed they could
As a paintballer myself, i feel that this video is exremelly biased towards paintball. You're throwing shit at another community of people that at the end of the day, aren't that much different from us. Plus you're comparing speedballing to airsoft, which is often scenario or milsim based.
Speedball games are usually not more than 7 minutes, whereas an airsoft game can span for days at a time. One focuses on agility, and the other focuses on endurance. You can't really compare the two.
There should not be a why this is better than that, but more of a mutual respect for both communities. Just do what you like to do, and don't hate on someone for doing something they like. I have seen fat paintballers and i've seen fat airsofters.
Shit like this only breeds toxicity. Toxicity only leads to the destruction of a community, which ultimately leads to friendships lost. If you're not in this for fun with your friends at the end of the day, why are you even doing it?
Nice coment dude :)
I agree
It's Nerf or nothing. But I agree
As an airsofter I agree its like comparing rugby to US football
Speedball sucks lol just kidding but when i played woodland was my fav longer games and camo 😁
those comparisons are like comparing nascar with rally
Rally is better than nascar tho
@@senacheshmehkaboodi6867 it’s more exciting but can be compared Bc nascar has a mentally defective cousin dirt oval racing which is kinda fun to watch
More like rally to LARPers
Oh look a weird milsim kid😂
also my favorite thing they said is "the bbs are so small so people never feel them" no offense but that is a huge noob comment
M4Airsoft they made 2 videos
@@ayeshasaini3393 i know but still any hard core airsoft players would agree
facts
I know
It’s also true.. I play Airsoft every weekend I never feel them and the refs never dress anything
"here are the objective reasons" and then proceeds to list a load of subjective stuff. Lul.
I have 20 years paintball exp and about 8 years airsoft. Whats better.. Well at my local fields the FPS limit is like 270 Max. Witch means you need to be around 265. Thats really slow and anyone over like 50 60 feet is a Long ball rainbow shot. Not long ago 300fps and 290s were fine. thats a HUGE change. If you ask me what is Better they Both have strong ups and downs. Cost is about 2x more expensive for paintball. And if you play Sniper you could spend under 40 for a full days play. Most people are UNDER 50 for a Full day play. VS 70 a case and 25 walk on. Some people say its easy to cheat in airsoft. Nobody calls hits... I SAY bull shit... If you go to a Quality airsoft field with good refs and rules there will be Little to zero cheating. Or not enough to care about. In my experience YES I was sure I got that guy but he didnt call it... That happens in paintball just the same. I dont think one is better then the other its all personal taste. However Airsoft IS 100% More tactical and team focused with objectives like a MILSIM. Yes airsoft is WAY WAY more accurate and YES people use optics all the time. If you dont think airsoft is more accurate go check out some airsoft sniper videos of Noverich. He gets head shots at 200 feet all day long. That is IMPOSSIBLE in paintball.... I should make a video on both BC I have played both LOTS... Airsoft is amazing though.
Well said! I appreciate people that talk from experience and use common sense 👍
TY. I know most paintball players look down on airsoft players for some reason. Both are fantastic to play.
One aspect where the two are very similar is the satisfaction of lighting up cheaters until it hurts too much and they finally call it.
No hate to the paint ball community but I genuinely think airsoft is a better sport.
The first reason why I think Air Soft is better than paintball is the cost. You can get 10,000 Airsoft BBs for 15 bucks. While paintball markers can be hundreds of dollars for 10,000 rounds. You also have to clean your equipment every time you go out to play paintball. There’s also the fact that airsoft does not hurt as much as paintball so it’s easier for kids or people that are knew to the spot to get into it.
Airsoft guns are also more accurate. Airsoft guns now have flat hop buckings and tight bore inner barrels.
My third reason is that Airsoft now has speedQB which if you don’t know, it’s basically speedball.
My fourth reason is the diversity in airsoft. You can be a Milsom person that likes long, realistic games or you can be a spead softer and have faster pace more competitive games. There is also a lot more choices in guns you can choose. For example, you can have a sniper, pistol, AR, SMG, LMG, and more. You can also have gas blowback guns, HPA guns, and AEG’s.
I also think the argument that the people community is more tightly knit and Air Soft community is a bias statement. I say this because the community depends on what field you go to and energy that you put out. You can have a totally bad experience at this one day but then go back the next day to the same Field and have a way better experience. It all depends on how you see it and the people you choose to play with
The advantage that paintball has is there a ranking system.
Love the video. Thanks for all the hard work.
I feel that with all my experiences with both paintballers are more welcoming and nicer
I totally ageee
Paintball seems like Overwatch whereas it is not as realistic and not as practical but has a large following. Airsoft seems more like rainbow 6 siege because it's more practical and realistic and has a smaller community. Although I can definitely say both are fun.
this is prolly the best way to compare the 2!!
I play airsoft and i like it because it is an honor system, you have to be able to trust others. Sure thats not always the case but i also like it because it's more tactical. But i want to get into painball.
Speedy yea I agree completely
Btw I’m subbing to you because y not
painball...
More tactical is funny to day Cus no way it is
My biggest reason I play Speedsoft (the speedball of airsoft) is it is so much cheaper and it was way easier to start airsoft
relatable
You guys may notice a section of voice over is missing, this censorship needed to happen because we discussed Paintball markers and Airsoft guns compared to real world firearms. While I don't hate military simulation paintball, the future of our sport is dependent on distancing ourselves from real firearms. It's just an easier sell to the parents of younger players. On the airsoft side, all airsoft guns are near replicas of real firearms.
I dont disagree about it being an easier sell, but I think paintball just needs to accept that it isnt and never will be a large market sport. Play to all aspects of the game, including milsim, because ultimately not that many moms are ever going to even think about their kid and paintball. An even smaller amount of parents that put thought into their kid and paintball will actually care about the "military replica" aspect. So yeah those 5 moms that dont let their kids play cuz the guns are scary probs arent going to be appeased anyway.
I can seriously remember the day my liberal neighbors mom came over and said that her kid wasn't allowed to shoot my 98custom with M4 style stock because it was like "training with a firearm". He was never allowed to go to the field with me and we had a slow falling out from that point forward.
WillBallForSoup thay has to be the most stupid thing I’ve ever heard hahaha
WillBallForSoup i was introduced to the sport about a year ago freshman year by some of my friends who play and I love it, I have an Etha 2 spire ir virtue mask ninja tank and I have the same skill set as my friends who play. And if anything my parents encourage me to play and they want me to play because it’s keeping me happy, active and fit. Just seeing my parents encouraging me to play paintball and my love for the sport, I will never leave. It’s insane to hear that about your neighbors mom tho, it’s really stupid
We were super young, like 13 or something and I only played a hanfull of times a year at big games."I don't want my son to be around guns" was her point of view. Chicago has some super hardcore left wingers
*talks about how “bad” airsoft is yet has never played airsoft is*
I know right?
Ikr?
Exactly. This guy needs to get a life
how do you know he has never played airsoft lol
Caleb Is Bad At PB oh I don’t know maybe because his channel is a paintball channel and he hates on airsoft all the time?
imo
the sports are different and people like different things
Yes but the problem is that everyone group paintball with airsoft, doesn't matter what you like ir think you airsoft players will always compare yourself to paintball because we work hard to get that notoriety around the world
Wtf does the second reason have to do with airsoft?!
"We're gonna be going with objective points."
Point 2 "the community is more tightknit" cool, please express that for me in an objective measure.
Couldn't even make it to number 2.
Jake's point is that he sees more collaboration and vigalance to identify and recover gear from scammers in the PB community compared to the airsoft community. He could have chosen something more objective, but I'm not going to censor the man.
Screw soup
@@karlmarx1423 screw u
Personally, I disagree. I am fine with paintball, I love both sports, but with these points, I disagree.
1. Nope, people do bat an eye when they get scammed in airsoft. Gear in airsoft is very expensive. People are killed because of scams and oversells. We care too, trust me.
2. We have tournament ranks in airsoft too. You either play a casual, close to unranked matches in video games. Or you can do tournaments. Tournaments are heavily monitored and ranked, cheating can get you banned from almost every field.
3. We have pro media players too. Airsoft is televised elsewhere and there's tons on social media. Not just UA-cam, but almost any platform. Twitch I believe has airsoft. (I think).
As a final note: I love both sports. I play primarily airsoft but from time to time I play paintball as well. Both games have pros and cons, ups and downs, and both hurt sometimes. You had some good points, but they had easy solutions. Good video, that's a sub!
This made me look at paintball a little differently, I was pretty dismissive. But saying that, I don't think I can get over the higher cost, it's such a massive drawback, I want to be able to spray bb's into the forest and not have to worry about ammo or c02 costs
people saying airsoft is better because they don't leave bruises on you, it's cheaper, depends more on honor system. LMAO MAN UP AND PLAY PAINTBALL
PBRML was also a good commenter. Always quick to do reviews and commenting on pro matches
Lots of respect to PBRML. I've reached out to some of my industry contacts to get more information. However, everything is being kept very close to the chest at this point in regards to the shut down.
WillBallForSoup man that sucks. I love his content it actually brought me into paintball. I wish we could get some info
Did GI sue him lol
Yeah he quit UA-cam now it sucks
if you ever find out please let us know
I know this video is 2 years old and not gonna get attention but, I haven't had any experience with either sport but i think with the budget i have I might be able to start paintball better than airsoft, but then again i look at videos on UA-cam so i can get prepared and don't find any on what you'll need to maintain a paintball gun or how to maintain and clean one, or how to start properly with all the gear, and the paint seems a bit expensive sometimes, but idk. I look at the airsoft side and there's more videos out there going in detail with gear and things.
"paintball is more athletic" okay try going on a 20 mile 1 week airsoft military simulation where you're running around with the same gear as legitimate soldiers on missions for an entire week
I’m pretty sure paintball has events like that as well
There are paintball players that do wear kitted our military gear for events and re-enactments
haha larper
syncdi idk anybody be role playing
syncdi I don’t role play, I just stick to local paintball fields
Right, because you don't need any athleticism to run around with padding and a solid metal gun on an area NOT made out of a bunch of stitched together kids' bouncy houses and is bigger than my playground was in elementary school, correct?
Paintball isn’t better than airsoft, but airsoft isn’t better either. They are 2 different sports and it really depends on what people enjoy. Airsoft is often more customizable, and more realistic. Airsoft is made as a war game, while paintball is made as a hardcore nerf game in a way. Paintball is made as a sport. Its like ballgames, they take lots of skill and athleticism, but are made in a way people will want to watch. Airsoft on the other hand is generally more slower paced and endurance based (other than CQB). In paintball you see tournaments of lots of short fast paced games. In airsoft on the other hand the games are normally longer, and instead of tournaments we have milsims (military simulation games, which can last anywhere from a day to a week) and the pace of the game is based on where you are, the game-mode, how the other players are playing, and your play style. While there are successful airsoft videos and videographers like novrich, jet desert fox, and house gamer airsoft. It’s generally not made to be watched. In paintball every moment is filmed and shown, in airsoft on the other hand, out of hours of playing there might only be half and hour of video worth showing. I. The end which one is better is more a mater of opinion. While there are some facts involved, like airsoft being more realistic, or how paintball has better ways to stop cheating, it dose mostly come down to how people want to play and watch.
Don't mind me just an air soft player
So am i
You make some good points. Been playing Airsoft for 7 years, never played Paintball even though there are good paintball and Airsoft sites near to me, but the one thing that has put me off trying out Paintball is the cost of ammo. Paintball has to be better for competitive games, although my concern is only having fun and I'm sure I would have a great time playing either Airsoft or Paintball.
Let's agree on a common enemy.... Woods ball
Correct me if I'm wrong but. Wasnt woodsball how paintball started?
@@carsontodd9267 yeah. Wasn't milsim how airsoft started
@@TGWecho Never played it. I'm a paintballer. Wouldnt know
@@carsontodd9267 ok
@@carsontodd9267 Markers were created for marking cattle. The sport probably started with local farm boys thinking it would be fun to shoot at each other lol.
When he talks about getting spammed, I got pissed. I play airsoft and this guy doesn’t. He doesn’t actually know what the true community is like. The airsoft community always has your back. And to inform you, there are many more veterans and honorable people in airsoft, whole paintball is filled with tons of kids who play fortnite for a living
That’s hilarious Cus almost no children play paintball kids simply can’t afford it I was just at the field last weekend and saw one kid and over 100 adults playing paintball
I like airsoft better because it feels more realistic
Paintballer 45 Xd you don’t have giant fucking hoper in on it
Paintballer 45 Xd btw I’m not saying that in a mean context
legit try playing magfed bro
RonnieBavs I mean the guns
legit yeah I think magfed is the best of both worlds tho. It’s realistic, but it solves the cheating problem of airsoft
I airsoft. But my problem is there is no por airsoft
You forgot to mention that paintball costs more in the long run because of how expensive the paint is compared to the bb's yes airsoft can be very expensive at first but after you buy your gear the bb's cost nothing. Also in airsoft you can use tracer bb's making it very easy to see where the bb's are going and who's hit because of how bright it shines when it hits them. Airsoft can be pretty competitive but not to the point where there's pro players.
and airsoft guns don't look ridiculous like paint ball guns
Tracers mainly only work inside thoygh
@@evanstevens9865 that’s an opinion, not a fact. Just like how I think paintball guns look cooler
@@xela79 fair enough but you have admit that there is alot more variation in airsoft, both are great tho
@@evanstevens9865 I think there’s more variation in paintball guns because you have speedball style markers and markers that replicate real guns. But there’s more customization with airsoft guns when it comes to attachments. Attachments are more useful on airsoft guns whereas attachments for paintball guns are more often just for show. Like a red dot sight on a paintball gun is useless. Late reply but I fell into the 3am youtube rabbit hole
paintball players are less toxic then airsoft players but paintball is so expensive
I like going against Good players so I can improve
You get better fast by playing against players that are better than u not only In airsoft and paint ball but other things too
The first reason is stupid there are cheaters in both. And my friend Casey got scammed and he was ingnored
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I enjoy playing paintball, mainly speedball, because it is unlike any other sport/activity. The gun is unlike a real gun, however it is just as customizable and enjoyable to shoot. Every part of your gear allows for high customizability, and their is such a wide range of products and styles, anyone considering the sport is bound to find something they truly enjoy using. The sport requires team tactics, personal finesse, and reactionary thinking. Besides that, it is a very athletically demanding sport for those who want to make it more intensive, and for those who may not be the most athletic, they can still enjoy the sport just as much at their own pace. This allows for a range of versatility among styles of play, and allows a wide range of age groups to be competitive among each other. What other sport can you think of where a team of 5 people with ages from 12, 16, 21, 35, 40, can all be playing on the same team at the same competitive level?
that pretty much describes airsoft just as well. I like both hobbies but i ended up doing airsoft since the paintball comunity is was and is sadly pretty dead where i live.
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As an Airsoft player I can agree with a lot of this, but the fact that you guys have real life skill based match making
I totally agree with all of these points. Especially the first two, airsoft is widely known (at least in my area) for cheating. And I’m in a BST group, and found a Etek 4 and Dye Rotor for $300 and delivered perfectly.
Also keep up the great content!
I've bought 1200$ SSG and it arrived perfectly
What's more accurate? Paint ball guns, or airsoft guns? Also which one shoots farther?
Paintball better than airsoft :D good joke :D
Who is the guy you mentioned working for HK? Would love to see some of the videos you refer to. TIA
Airsoft is either edgy 13 year old or wanna be soldiers
I'm 15, not edgy, play at a tournament level, and don't have any interest in becoming a soldier
hey echo :)
@@beebo4481 heyro
Not really (although some players definitely fit in that category lol) but I play airsoft because i like the realism (not wannabe soldier) and it's just having fun, and I can go out for a night play airsoft hop in my car maybe go eat or to the movies. Last time I played paintball it was kinda annoying with all the paint.
ZRock7771 yea I don’t have anything against airsoft paintball is just more popular where I am and I like knowing that I hit someone with the paint
These reasons didn’t change anything to a future airsofter’s career. I will still be excited to live my passion using non-dangerous firearms that are way more immersive than any airsoft craft. Although it’s fun knowing different other inventions will still compete for the best shooting sport title in case airsoft becomes illegal.
Wanna hear a joke “airsoft”
*cough* woods ball *cough*
@Chef G's Pyrotechnics hell yeah!
@Chef G's Pyrotechnics that's cool. I have a few polarstars. And a few SSG/dsg and hi capas! My home field is Nashville Airsoft though
*salty*
You've clearly never played airsoft or spent much researching it. All your points are biased and irrelevant, learn to make a proper comparison.
Airsoft isn't meant to be paintball, it's what paintball isn't. It's not meant to be a direct upgrade or downgrade, it's just a different flavour. I like both but prefer milsim over speedball, I like moving with a unit of guys that all have specific roles. Its slower yes but that's part of the fun. Either sport is what you make it to be
I would rather play airsoft since not everyone has the same exact gun.
@Bugler55 But doesn't that make it boring?
@Bugler55 I can understand that.
I think because paintball if you get hit people will know
Airsoft is Astronomically less expensive.
Airsoft is insanely more diverse. (Speedsoft and Milsim and Rentals OH MY)
Easier to get into/less complex.
More customizability across the board.
We have CQB, Field, Operations, And Backyard airsoft. Paintball their is one, maybe two kinds of fields.
(This one’s petty) Paintball guns look ridiculous
I quit air soft cause I found paintball more fun
in my opinion, airsoft is no different. this video is mainly based on perspective when the speakers likely lack knowledge on the sport of airsoft. I am a frequent airsoft player and I can ensure you where I play it's literally no different referring to the points made in this video against airsoft. Most airsofters play because of the realism of the sport. What I'm trying to get at is there's no point in comparing the two because they're different sports and even though I said they possess lots of the same things they still are two different sports that offer different things and I don't understand the point of making a video trying to claim one as "better" Thank you
as an airsofter who plays speedsoft, (a type of airsoft game that is nearly identical to tournament styled paintball) i like seeing that all of these fun and athletic traits of paintball are coming over to airsoft and we might even end up getting our own ways to stream speedsoft and just to have a similar platform that tournament styled paintball does. even though i strictly play airsoft, i have no problem with paintball players.
I have played airsoft and paintball for a long time and I don’t think one is better than the other,they both are great hobbies or sports to do👍🏻
Is airsoft cheaper than paintball?
Yep way cheaper
I have been playing paintball since i was 13 but i just recently got into airsoft and i love both sports evenly.
I agree with alot of this but I'd argue that they're mostly based on the maturity of the sport. Airsoft is maturing into speedQB while still keeping milsim and woods ball very much alive. As far as the community sticking up for each other that's a real up that paintball has. How ever in tournament play airsoft will most likely always be on smaller more fast paced fields simply because of the paint vs BB marking system.
I do wonder with airsoft, how do they even feel hits if they have full masks and military chest rigs on? The bbs just don't have any momentum.
The best thing ive seen before with both airsoft and paintball players is that at times ive seen both sports making fun of each other saying who is better but i saw one paintball video that a kid was making fun of paintball telling the youtuber that he need to play a "real sport" like football or basketball and both airsofters and paintballers defended the channel. I remember one airsoft player told the kid that only paintballer and airsofter players can make fun and pick on each other but people in other sports should interfere with the sport and that right there earned my respect with both airsofters and paintballers
I played airsoft alot back in the day until my local field got so toxic that it felt like someone left a bunch of waist barrels everywhere so I stoped playing. But I have only had good experiences playing paintball. Even know I quit airsoft for obvious reasons I still respect it as well as paintball.
I play both Airsoft and Paintball, but I like paintball MORE because it’s harder for players to cheat and not to call hits and get away with it, but in airsoft players can cheat very easily because no marks were left unless you hit their skin.
I disagree with your point on athleticism because in airsoft you have stuff like milsim were you march and run for miles, you also have to carry your gear that can get pretty heavy
paintball is more a team sport than airsoft
Actually in airsoft we have a tournament play style called “speedsoft” or “speedqb” which is very similar to paintball its mostly popular on the west coast, the california area and it involves a 5v5 match that has a similar layout to speedball fields (can, dorito, snake etc.) but instead of pressing the buzzer 1 person from each team is given the task to rush to the flag in the beginning break off of the round to the collect the flag they must take back to the opposite side of theirs. Also to “counter” the problem of people not calling their hits most players use flashlights and or tracer units to track where their rounds are going. As a speedqb player idk why we still have this kind of beef with paintball players but i do highly respect the sport and love both
I thought you guys have more beef with the milsim players. If I was in airsoft I would be in speedqb. The playstyle of speedsoft is better suited than milsim. Milsim seems to be pretentious.
pichum4st3r i wasnt talking about speedqb beefing with paintball im talking about the whole sport in general beefing with paintball
@@Kalingas Oh. You said "as a speedqb player" not as an airsoft player in general.
I am an airsofter and I wouldn't disagree with a lot of your points. I think the main problem with airsoft is that our community is smaller, and the fact that we use bbs, not paint something that indeed does make a difference. Airsoft is a sport which is more for fun in my opinion, and something that will never be truely competitive. While, I love Speedqb and think its amazing, airsoft will simply never be able to compete with paintball on the competitive level. Anyway, awesome video I actually enjoyed it!
7 reasons why airsoft is better
1. Its cheaper for better products
2. The projectile isn't the size of 50 cal.
3. The guns look better in airsoft
4. It builds trust (have to call your hit)
5. Can wear pretty much anything without ruining it with pain t
6. Who hides behind balloons in a fire fight?
7. Its not spray and pray for the most part. Much more tactical in airsoft
Are we not going to talk about how much it costs for paintball, just 1000 rounds in paintball costs $30 while in airsoft you can get 10000 rounds for 30 dollars.
SO by my name you can tell i obviously play airsoft. but i didn't stick to airsoft, just because i play it more. yes i played paint ball more, and yes it was a lot of fun, but airsoft and paint ball have a difrent feel. when your on a big map in airsoft, and flank the whole enimie team and end up killing most of them, theirs just something about that that is so satisfying and u cant find else where. but also in paint ball the feeling of lineing up with ur guns pointed down, and the sound of the wistle blowing and u sprinting to where ever ur going, and calling out the enimes is also something like nothing else. I will say paint ball is really fun because of the team work, but airsoft is also fun because u can play it how u want to, for example i play as a "speed softer" (which is coppied from speed ball in paintball) and its a fast paced style of play. and yes paint ball had woods ball for those who like military simulation. i think that both are really fun, and if u havnt tried out both u have no room to be talking.
These aren’t even resins airsoft is so much more realistic and the bullets are more fun and the game it’s self is much more affordable
At the cost of half the players cheating lol that's not fun and it can be more realistic that just makes you a psychopath for wanting to shoot someone lol ( just kidding) but airsoft is trash and takes no skill.
I personally like airsoft more than paintball. I’ve played paintball for 1 year and if I’m being honest, it got boring. Not because it wasn’t fun I was just scared because I shot In the neck so I would always stay in the back. So when I started to play airsoft, I had more fun because it was more realistic and i loved that. I’ve played airsoft for 3 years and enjoyed everytime I played. That’s my personal opinion
So do you actually aim or is it more of a point and shoot kind of thing
You aim down your barrel and watch your streams. Adjust based on where your paint is landing.
@@WillBallForSoup good to know I have never played paintball although I have played airsoft just with friends and family in my backyard
As an airsofter, I enjoy airsoft more because it's more realistic. Yes, there's flaws, biggest one is probably calling shots. But technology is evolving.
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I’ve played airsoft for quite a few years, and I feel most of the points made in this video would be valid if it weren’t for the fact that “competitive” airsoft isn’t really that huge. Just look at the views and video saturation of “airsoft tournament” vs “milsim” or “sniping” its a massive gap. Airsoft is marketed mostly as a military simulation (although it will never be truly accurate mad respect to those who serve) and I’ve read a lot of the comments basically saying the same thing. If you live in Cali you probably think competitive airsoft is huge. Go basically anywhere else and it’s non existent. Also the whole “the average airsoft player is 12-16” is definitively not true. Like at all. Maybe in the us it might be, but literally anywhere else in the world it’s probably 18+. I’ve been to every field in my state and it’s 80% people in their 20s.
That’s my little opinion thanks for reading.
The difference is airsoft is more of a simulation game and airsoft is a lot more of an open and easier sport to join
i don’t know much about airsoft but ik in paintball you can sign up for a redit and facebook bst and buy a older high end tournament setup for 600 and it would be a awesome setup
The second point with the bst is something I never realized how true it is until you said it
Tournaments in airsoft really aren't popular among the majority of the players of airsoft, unlike paint ball, where if you play paintball whether you are a casual player or not, you are probably well aware of the professional fields in paintball.
Airsoft is in my opinion a lot better but it is interesting to see what points paintballers have on this matter
I like paintball more because of its competition scene and community
I like both airsoft and paintball but i will say paintball imo has airsoft beat. No matter how good your airsoft gun is you still won't be able to paint splatter people. So if you get someone out in airsoft they are more likely to cheat because not everyone plays by the rules unfortunately
I’ve played both and paintball is much more expensive and the reason I like airport better is because of how much cheaper it is and it doesn’t make your clothing dirty.
As an airsofter personally I play airsoft instead of paintball because I love the military. I've grown up in a military family and military history and uniforms, gear, etc. So I play airsoft for re-enactment purposes and the weapons. I've had many chances to play paintball but the same Interest is just not there. I don't intend to continue playing airsoft after highschool because it's just a hobby that I'm going to replace. I also don't do airsoft competitively nor do I take it seriously. I have nothing against paintball it's just not my cup of tea.
This is the problem I have with airsoft. Airsoft is realistic in the same way M1 Medieval is realistic. It just looks realistic.
My 86 cents is that airsoft is for more realistic action. There is so many types of guns. For example ive seen WW2 reenactments and Vietnam reenactments. I think paintball is more of a sport. I think the best way to determine which one is "better" is to get some paintball teams with their paintball guns vs some airsoft guys with their airsoft guns and see who wins. You know
Your idea of seeing which is better makes no sense, it’s all about having fun, not literally beating someone in a battle
@@xela79 that's weird I must have made that comment when I was tired. That's not something I would say. Cuz I do think they are both for fun.
Side note, I do wish that there was some ranking system or gameplay organization. I hate when my team is made up of a 10 year old kid who has never even shot a nerf gun, 3 teenage speedsofters that think we are playing paintball, 3, 40 year old ex military milsim guys and a dude renting a gun who doesn’t even leave the respawn because he’s too scared to get hit.. at least if it was divided up by age everyone would have a better time. P.S. kids 14 and younger never call their hits
It just depends on your budget, and more importantly: your community. Neither one sport is truly better; it just depends on those two aforementioned things.
My opinion is that airsoft is a hobby and speedball is a sport
Ok so im leaving America and Moving to the Philippines and I wanted to join a team but couldn't and so I went on facebook and one post opened up sooo many options for me. This is why I love paintball becuase of how much people care about other people and will help them as much as they can.
In airsoft there air paint bbs or explosive bbs that make a spark but they are not really used
I think we can agree both sports are equally good in their own right. Have fun in whatever you play
Also u cant say anything about airsoft if u havent been to a field, my field has profesinal people take our photos while we are playing and they send them to us
I personally like paintball because of the markers and just the paintballs in general. I can see why people would like airsoft better but it all depends on personal experience and opinion
I believe we are comparing apples to oranges here. Comparing a sport to a hobby...of course paintball is superior. You need to compare paintball to the competitive Airsoft games that have risen lately, Speedqb.
Actually, because airsoft is not commonly played as speedsoft, a more accurate comparison would be the large paintball tournaments compared to the huge airsoft milsim events like Armored War 8, which had over 3000 players, and involved tanks, armored vehicles, and aircraft.