I love to see more attention for LoR. I feel like this game is so slept on. It is solid mechanically, has great art and effects, and is super free to play friendly.
Absolutely agree. I was playing for a month, mostly path of champions. New expansion came out and I could easly craft the top meta decks to join everyone, not spend 2 years of playing just to catch up. Too bad I'm bored of playing pvp card games. LoR just came out when most of poeple were already burned out. too bad, fantastic game tho
I played runetetta since beta and let me tell you, 2/3 times between expansions game is great! But that time period after new set release and before balance patch was (at least until previous autumn when I quit runeterra) was ALWAYS awful. Devs want people to play with new toys but always screw and for a good month game is unplayable because some combination of new cards create unstoppable monstrosity that terrorises ladder until patch. EVERY.SINGLE.FUCKONG.TIME Maybe this year they stopped doing this, I don't know, but it used to be my main reason I dropped it
@@curiavoca Every single card game had a moment when they evolved too far and got complicated. Does that mean every card game is bad tho? + most of the new mechanics are good and interesting to play with, and nothing (except ionia) is uninteractive, which makes the matches way more interesting than playing cards untill Odin drops turn 8 or you see Sif turn 10 and instantly surr. I think the only moment like that I had with the game was the Azir/Irelia incident and... I dont want to talk about that one. But in HS, MtG, Gwent or Snap you had many...
@cyberpr0phet i don't play MTG but ionia is the "you can't play the game" region and they have frying units "elusive" which can only be blocked by other elusive units
It's a crime that path of champions was untouched. Genuinely one of the most fun pve experience I've had in a card game that makes we wish MTG Arena or Master Duel would have something like this.
LoR is mechanically, in my opinion, the best card game that exists. Skill decides the vast majority of games, not who drew better or who went first. Their mana system is unmatched and the balance within the game is fantastic. Sure, metas always exist, but you can climb to Masters with just about anything if you are good enough. Kudos to the devs on this one.
The thing is, with the existence of meta decks, there’s always a balance patch, variety update, or expansion every month to change it, so it’s almost impossible for one deck to stay tier 0 for more than a few weeks
Totally agree, not only is it possible to climb with pretty much any kind of deck, with how F2P friendly is, you can try any decks without spending money
@@MerolLord that’s why Path of Champions is so good. You can play it for weeks and weeks and get so many cards from the weekly vault that you’re almost guaranteed a deck that’s good, not to mention you get so much knowledge about the various archetypes, interactions, and synergies from playing it. It’s easily the best part about LoR, and makes it so easy to start because you get all the experience without any of the competitiveness. Plus, since every deck you play there is different, you complete quests so fast it’s nutty.
please tell me wtf do i do if the enemy draws their champion before i draw mine? i feel like games are decided so fast by snowballing champions. also unlike HS i cant for the live of me craft the decks i want unless i spend money.
@@h.benali8304 1, you might need to mulligan harder for your champions, or look for a deck that isn’t as reliant on them, and 2, I dunno I’ve never had that problem.
One of this game's biggest successes in my opinion is just how much it has done for League of Legends' lore - expanding it really well and making more people interested. We get introduced to a lot of different characters and creatures and we get to know more about the relationships between them and champions we already know with the voicelines in the game. I've been quite interested in the lore since waay back but especially after they ditched summoners and they started paying more attention to it. For a long time I've wanted something that would let me experience the world of League outside of just the game itself and this game and Arcane both made me happy for this reason and hopefully Arcane season 2 and the upcoming Riot MMO bring more attention to League lore because I think the world of Runeterra is really well crafted and deserves it.
I would go as far as to say Legends of Runeterra single handily made me care about Riot as a company. Back when they were just the "League of Legends" company, I really didn't care about the world they were building. Why should I? Runeterra with its exceedingly high production quality and legitimately excellent storytelling made me invested, and now I keep a close watch on what Riot Forge is up to.
To me it seems now that they gave up a little about giving lor through LoR because of arcane's success. For example path of champions started having stories in it but they just stopped with that
17:11 it's literally the exact same in Magic, you just didn't realize it because there's an "auto pass" turned on by default. In magic you literally pass priority to the other player after anything happens basically. Technically you would be hitting that button like 10x more in magic if you didn't have the auto pass thing enabled by default.
This game has an auto pass as well, the big difference is you're able to go back and forth playing sorcery speed spells and creatures in each round, as opposed to only being able to interact with your opponent's turn at instant speed in MTG
@fish_in_distress Yes, the point is Rarran is acting like you have to hit the Pass button a lot in this game but not so much in a similar game like MTG. What he isn't realizing is that he would be hitting Pass WAAAAY more in MTG if the auto pass feature wasnt enabled by default and wasn't hidden in the background.
@@SmashCentralOfficialRight, but the auto-pass in Magic also covers a lot more because you can basically only interact at instant speed during your opponents' turn, and you're less likely to have an instant (i.e. something you may be able to use) than in Runeterra, where, since you *may* be able to use something basically always, you have to pass much more often. Now, if you turn auto-pass off, they're both probably about the same, and, in fact, magic is probably worse because of the phase structure.
@@SaberToothPortilla I haven't played Magic, but yea, every deck in Lor has cheap spells. From a competitive standpoint, you should keep auto-pass off especially if you run few spells, like combat tricks of Champ spells. I do think Auto-pass improves the experience for Casual play, or grinding ladder
Long time card game player. Played tons of them, but Runeterra is definitely my favourite by a huge margin. I find what Rarran says around 16:40 about the button interesting. LoR is definitely the most intense and involved TCG in the sense that it has the least downtime and most shared considerations you have to make. And that's definitely its most polarizing element. The exact thing that some people don't like about it is exactly what its fans value most about it. It just feels inherently more competitive and involved than most other TCGs. Stuff like spell mana inherently requires you to consider future turns while playing for instance, which at the highest levels of play you should be doing in other TCGs as well. Stuff that's optional but optimal in other card games is more inherent and necessary to all levels of play in LoR. It's not the most complex card game, but it's probably the sweatiest for better or for worst.
I come from magic and I definitely agree with your take. The biggest difference in this game is that there is no "may" ability: if you play a card it has it does what it says. It makes sequencing much more important. Win cons also change the game a lot. The damage/draw spells in LoR are actual dogshit in Magic, but the units are regularly more powerful than creatures are. This as well as LoR being an online game (constant balance changes and erattas) makes alternate win cons much rarer and less effective than straight combat. Making almost every deck win in the same way (not strategy, just combat) makes it feel much sweatier for sure.
@@mateodejesus5426 There being no may abilities is almost entirely by design. Runeterra uses a very streamlined "open gamestate/closed gamestate" system where you can only manually make choices or selections during the open gamestate, and then everything resolves automatically once the gamestate closes. Spells and skills use the stack and targets or conditions can be selected, but triggers are instant and automatic. Unlike magic you weave abilities onto the stack as it resolves or make selections/pick targets with triggers as the stack resolves. It's kind of like you're building a giant rude Goldberg stack of effects and consequences where each one recontextualizes all the ones before it. It has far fewer big decisive effects or blow outs, but it also generally has more triggers with more knock on effects during a stack resolution total. The heart of the game is in the minutia. Sequencing 3 spells and all of your blockers exactly right to flip your champion mid combat to give it +1/1 to dodge removal is a semi-common game determining occurrence. There's also a small element of "playing against your own cards" because again, there's no may effects and everything is mandatory. Like the spells where you must spend all of your mana in order to play them, so if you want to spend less mana on them you need to sequence other cards in front of them. Or that declaring an attack with a unit will cause damage to the enemy units, including ones that gain bonuses when they're damaged, and you can't decline to have it hit them. Or that lots of cards will determine the unit they effect with a condition like strongest or weakest instead of targeting, and who they'll hit are subject to change mid stack resolution. That, and the shared round initiative pass system means there's an action economy and taking actions is a resource too, it isn't just mana and card advantage. Playing 4 slow spells (sorceries) in a turn gives your opponent a massive advantage because you've opened 4 stacks and given them 4 actions of their own to develop. Lots of ineividual cards can be threats, answers to threats, answers to other answers, or a combination of the three. Tempo is so massively important that trading down in terms of both mana and cards can situationally be a game winning play surprisingly often. It's also much more bluffing friendly, because of how being proactive versus being reactive with spells works. If I had to sum it up in a pithy little remark, it's for people who fucking love "fair" magic. It's MtG for MtG players who fucking love green stompy, boros weenies, gruul midrange, rakdos goodstuff, izzet combo that specifically doesn't have infinites, and Selesniya ramp. It's like if MtG limited was a constructed format. Creatures are good, removal is bad, but because it's constructed and not draft you get to actually indulge your build arounds and synergies. It's Magic if combat math is your favourite part of Magic.
The reason LoR is not more popular is because Riot does very little to promote it. TFT is an example, very early on nobody would play it if it wasn't in the League client, yet the league client doesn't make any mention of LoR. LoR is like the third child that the parents didn't want but had anyway, which sucks because to me it is the best card game out there.
Billion percent true. Sometimes I ask myself, what if it was the opposite? What if LoR was in the League client and TFT was standalone. I doubt that TFT would be as popular. Think of all the free marketing the game gets by just being a click away for the entire League playerbase. Sure, not everyone will like it, but there is literally no barrier of entry compared to LoR.
Kinda sad it seems like Rarran didn't touch the Challenges tab because they are "basically" an extended tutorial and are amazing at teaching you the ins and outs of each keyword, and it updates with each new keyword. It even helped me notice a cool detail about a keyword I thought I already knew, that being Overwhelm able to not be blocked if the blocker dies before the attack is made (such like a spell killing the opposite minion)
^True facts of the 21st century right here. 💯 I've been playing since season 2's preseason(ig just before rarran) and let me tell you... I feel my lifespan diminish with every click, and league is VERY click intensive.
Been waiting for this video. This is dope. *Just finished watching the video and getting to plat that fast is impressive considering you haven't played it recently. Keep up the good work and you'll be at masters in no time!
One of the things I love the most about LoR is that it possible to climb with pretty much any kind of deck, and with how F2P friendly is, you can try any of those decks without spending money, it's really fun to constantly brew and try new things, from meme decks to meta decks they are all really easy to build after you hoard up a decent collection with the weekly vaults. In any other card game crafting decks is such a big time/money commitment it becomes really hard to try new things or invest on a offmeta deck, I love HS and MTG but it always bums me out I can't build fun brews without spending hundreds of dollars, with how little F2P rewards they give, it forces you to spend all of it on meta decks
We happily welcome you into the world of LoR content-creators if you want to make more videos on it. Weve recently lost some big streamers (swim, mogwai, grapplr) and just from your interactions with snnuy i know you are the guy to fill the void! glad you enjoy lor, i hope it stays that way ^^
Man, it feels so good hearing all this good stuff about my favourite card game. Thanks for such a great job sharing this experience with others. Your content as always slaps❤❤❤
LoR is soo good. 4/5 games feels like been dictated by good plays and missplays. Art, music, climate, this game is brilliant and I am happy to see you doing some content on it
Me as a Magic Player, i realy enjoy Path of Champion. Taking some time of pvp just with the twist to also play a great card game is awesome. Riot did great with this one.
I geniuenly love both Hearthstone and Legends of Runterra. Hearthstone because I like to make goofy decks, Runeterra for fully thematic ones. One of the reasons why I love Runeterra is that it encourages vastly different playstyles with it's myriad of champions. The different 'regions' are not limited to one playstyle and you can mix and match them as you please. For example: Bilgewater decks can focus on black powder & explosives with Gangplank at the helm, oblitirate your own deck to summon enormous sea monsters with Nautilus OR you can make a deck that's all about brawling & intimidation with a group of shark people who have the freaking Undertaker (Jack) as their leader. Though my personal favorite deck as of right now is overcoming the odds with Pantheon (THE gigachad of League) and his band of followers. Also Path of Champions is legit addicting and was my gateway to enjoying card-based roguelikes such as Monster Train and Erannorth Chronicles.
Please do make more LoR content! There aren't a ton of youtubers who do highly edited content like yours for LoR, it's definitely a niche that can be filled!
One other huge thing HS innovated on was doing tons of game mechanics that really only work on digital (Lots of random effects and card generation). It's interesting to see how LoR handles the format, and the hero animations are a pretty huge
16:55, I think the word would be "engaging" the game definitely needs pretty much your full attention at all times. But its good, I really enjoy the Path of Champions stuff
LoR definitely took inspiration from Eternal(another card game) in relation to the weekly chest. Glad they did. For me, i stopped playing HS because of UiS and there was too much content being thrown at me. The game treated me too much like a addict. LoR and path of champions are genuinely amazing
This deserves a like just for that tier list, haha. Definitely agree with everything you said as a fellow long time League of Legends player. Seeing all the champions and art has been super awesome, and I love playing the game even if I just get on to play PvE sometimes.
@@umarmars47 Runeterra of course but Master duel is similar in terms of F2P with the crafting system i was able to craft a meta deck in a 4 days basically . But you have to play like mad around those days and spend your gems wisely on packs .
I gave up on runeterra despite thinking it's a great game because i felt like "it makes me think too much", like it was tiring for me, the way you explained the issue of the pass mechanic was perfect and translated my feelings on the game very well
Whoaaaa rarran playing runeterra! I sincerely believe LoR is the best game out there, no hate for others (i played MTG for 20 years and hearthstone for 4! Others for very little). I love that people are giving LoR more attention, it really deserves it
As someone that started playing during the beta, i love seeing this game getting more popular. It sucks that It has a small team working rn compared to back in the day, but they seriously do an amazing job. Also more lor on your channels means more collabs with sunny right?
I came to lor years ago as a HS fan who couldn’t really get to loving the game due to the, at the time, prohibitive monetization you had to go through before getting viable fun decks. Add to it the advent of the patches meta and there was good reason to start looking at other TCGs. LoR is fantastic in the ease of crafting that it gives new players. The back and forth action model of the game was unintuitive at first coming from HS, but over time I’ve started to see it as perhaps LoR’s greatest feature. The interactibility that the game grants each and every player, (mostly) irrespective of the deck that they play is far more engaging than HS ever allowed itself to be. I very much recommend playing this game, even if you want a more laidback format of play for a casual game. Super stoked for more LoR content wherever possible. Cheers!
i do recommend that u also try Path of Champions, its one of few reasons i actually play this game alot, as someone that played this game since foundation, Path of Champions was one of the best additions in my opinion to make me come back and play this game alot.
This was such a fun watch. As a shadowverse player and someone who's played LoL a bit too much, when they announced this game you know I was playing day 1. As a Shen one trick, theory crafting a deck around him was really fun. There was so much right about this game but the one thing I lost interest in was how when a new expansion came out, it never really changed my optimised Shen deck most times. Dont get me wrong, it was cool to see these LoL champions translated into a card game, but I never wanted to play them personally. I know its probably a me thing about just playing one champ though. But in Shadowverse and its rotation format, every new expansions means a new period to theory craft decks, and every class gains new tools that you have to learn and adapt to. That said i also hope you cover Shadowverse the same way here and I'm super down for your raw opinion of the game (the good and the bad). And yes I know LoR has a rotation format too but it was much later than its release.
It's an underrated aspect of HS for me that I love the characters from WoW (except Malfurion, who is a whiny baby), so I like you being honest about the characters drawing you in.
17:07 "The button" Lol man, this button got the best of me sometimes😂 is fun how there are similarities with lol gameplay, this game is veeery attention rewarding, just like league formula itself
16:25 thats actually the main reason I switched back to HS and then Master Duel. I love cards game but I like to play them the most during drinking my coffé or eating alone at night 😂
22:00 there is crafting in this game. Those green shards can be used to craft any card including champions. You get green shards from duplicates. Thanks for covering the greatest card game ever made that makes no money.
LoR has a few anti-afk features 1) while the turn timer is long enough, if you time out once, your next timers is like 1/10 or 1/5 the length... it's nuts. this resets once you manually pass again 2) if the game sees you afk for 2 of your rounds {having the Attack Token twice}, it will auto-surrender you 3) if your opponent notices you are afk.. which is easy because of the timer. it's actually in their best interest, to do nothing on your turn/round, causing a mutual pass, and getting the attack token back
The thing about Legends of Runeterra is that they actually studied other card game, see what people disliked about those card game, then add those fixes into Legends of Runeterra at launch. Like for example, the dev knew your point would go to waste when the turn ends in Hearthstone, that's why they added the spell point. The dev knew you would feel helpless when it's your opponent turn, biggest example of that is Yugioh, something even Yuguoh fan disliked about Yugioh, so they made you both take turns just using 1 cards at a time instead which helps to be fair as possible since that makes it easier to defend but also more engaging which can either be bad or good thing depending on your taste, for me I like that it's more engaging, it might jabe something to di with thr fact that card games was my childhood before mobile was ever a thing, so I prefer to go at it non-stop rather than wait during my opponent turn though, plus I think better defense is nicer too, in Yugioh although rare, there was a back to back duel and that was the best duel I ever had, but in LoR I get to do that more often, just less epic but also less wait time. That does mean it's not as simple as Hearthstone but it's still more simple than most other popular card game though, it's like in a perfect middle ground in my opinion. They even said they aren't gonna cut the server of the game because they love this game themselves. They even made this the most F2P friendly live-service card game out there, literally. Now that's passion. And this is coming from someone who don't like MOBA, as in I'm not a fan of League. Sadly they seen to be pretty bad with advertising though, that's why it's not popular, not because it's more engaging with the button, I actually like that for the reason I stated above, if you don't like it then that's just your personal taste, not why it's not popular, it's not popular because of the advertisement. For example they didn't even put LoR button in LoL menu for couple years after launch, they only added that recently in fact, whereas something like LoL Tactics had that since launch instead, that should tell you everything. Lol 😂
I think your thoughts on "the button" (i.e. priority) is very interesting. I didn't consider before how passing priority could be annoying. Unfortunately though, I think card games that use priority will always have to function that way. If you didn't get priority, things would always resolve before you can respond to them. It would no longer be a pro-active game by design, and would defeat the purpose of "fast" spells altogether.
Cool vid dude, I'm glad you enjoyed LoR. You explained the differences in appeal to the card game audience really well. Definitely looking forward to more of you content!
Would absolutely love to see more Runeterra content from you, and its never a bad idea to try to diversify your content a bit, especially with how volatile blizzard has been recently
I'd love to see more LoR content by you! Your videos with Snnuy are always great, and now that you're playing the game again, it'd be cool to see you do some challenges with Snnuy! He made a video where he had to win 3 games on 3 different monitors all at once, and it was nuts. I don't expect you to have to do the same, but I just wanted to use an example. Maybe you could make a video where you guys have to draft a deck, or spin a wheel to see what champs you make a deck around. Anything could be fun, and I'd definitely watch!
Runeterra legit might be the only card game I reinstall. I've generally quit all of the major ones due to the chase (the need to keep up with meta especially post rotations). But runeterra is just so fun
Yes, please more content for LoR! Great game that has a lot of different play styles! Interested in seeing more dives into this game! There is the single player content, the tournament content, 2 player co-op mode, and the for fun lab content all to choose from on top of the "regular" 1v1 normals and ranked options.
I'd love for you to make more Legends of Runeterra content. I just started playing it myself, and having youtuber I know jump onto it with me would be the absolute best!
You should try out the Path of Champions (PvE) gamemode. THAT is being slept on. It's a massive single player subgame to Legends of Runeterra, similar to the likes of Slay the Spire but with about 20 times more content and you can just play it for free. You can get different powers, put items on cards, get absolutely ridiculous combos and face absolutely ridiculous enemies. Barely anybody seems to notice it when it in my opinion is clearly the best game in its entire genre
Runeterra is cool cause it’s the closest you can get to an irl card game with all the passing back priority and interaction without all the annoying stuff like manually keeping track of health
I absolutely agree on the 'intrusive' button thing. It feels more like a game that is better on PC because it commands too much attention. The game is great, I've been playing since launch, but I always prefer some random gacha whenever I try to play it on phone. The complicated deck building helps a lot, but because its so attention-hungry it's not fit for on the go casual gameplay. Hope you continue with it. LoR is usually slept on because people tend to have the perception of it being a cheap cashgrab card game when it's really solid all around since League is so much bigger.
I played a massive amount of hearthstone, then took a break and played duelyst. After that I went back to hearthstone and took a break to play runterra. Then I went back to duelyst and then hearthstone. It's like a cycle.
I got into YUGIOH duelmasters from you lol, I ran that Salamangreat deck to eat too I played hearthstone years ago, Yugioh as a kid and when duel links came out and magic is my fav card game out of them all but I’ve recently been addicted to master duels. You trashing it got me into it
i played LoR from Bilgewater to the Irelia nerfs, then i quit because the dev team was catering to a few streamers and they didnt even make the effort to try and hide it, whatever these few dudes wanted from the balance team they got it. I hoped that the game would get better sometime and seeing it so it makes me want to go back and play it
Watching someone get blown out by judgment for the first time is always a treat 😂
We've all been there
I still remember Kripp getting hit with the Fiora Judgement combo back in the day. That was lovely.
Funny thing if he precommited the darkness on attack and got the second one from senna, it would be no problem at all :D
I wish I was never there
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I love to see more attention for LoR. I feel like this game is so slept on. It is solid mechanically, has great art and effects, and is super free to play friendly.
Absolutely agree. I was playing for a month, mostly path of champions. New expansion came out and I could easly craft the top meta decks to join everyone, not spend 2 years of playing just to catch up. Too bad I'm bored of playing pvp card games. LoR just came out when most of poeple were already burned out. too bad, fantastic game tho
I played runetetta since beta and let me tell you, 2/3 times between expansions game is great! But that time period after new set release and before balance patch was (at least until previous autumn when I quit runeterra) was ALWAYS awful. Devs want people to play with new toys but always screw and for a good month game is unplayable because some combination of new cards create unstoppable monstrosity that terrorises ladder until patch. EVERY.SINGLE.FUCKONG.TIME
Maybe this year they stopped doing this, I don't know, but it used to be my main reason I dropped it
@@curiavoca lol no. Best card game by far gg ez.
@@curiavoca show me on this doll where seraphine hurt you
@@curiavoca Every single card game had a moment when they evolved too far and got complicated. Does that mean every card game is bad tho? + most of the new mechanics are good and interesting to play with, and nothing (except ionia) is uninteractive, which makes the matches way more interesting than playing cards untill Odin drops turn 8 or you see Sif turn 10 and instantly surr. I think the only moment like that I had with the game was the Azir/Irelia incident and... I dont want to talk about that one. But in HS, MtG, Gwent or Snap you had many...
I see you picked up the Ionia hatred after just 10 hours, excellent 😂
This is a no "pink region" zone
there is no Ionia in Runeterra @@dankmemes8254
We always hate Ionia in this house
Just Started LoR, picked Ionia. Is it smth like blue mana in MtG?))
@cyberpr0phet i don't play MTG but ionia is the "you can't play the game" region and they have frying units "elusive" which can only be blocked by other elusive units
It's a crime that path of champions was untouched. Genuinely one of the most fun pve experience I've had in a card game that makes we wish MTG Arena or Master Duel would have something like this.
Rarran mentioned he played it a year ago and therefore didn't want to touch it for this video
It took him a few years after the Hearthstone PvE modes were released for him to play those modes.
I wish Master Duel had more formats than just "Wild", a PVE one would be cool but it also needs draft and Edison/Goat
@@valkuilI remember him saying that he doesn't remember it at all so it doesn't matter lol. Kinda sad he didn't olay it
Normally if you're playing a pvp game, specially coming from one of the most competitive out there, you'd want to play pvp
I'd really love to see more runeterra content from you, man!
LoR is mechanically, in my opinion, the best card game that exists. Skill decides the vast majority of games, not who drew better or who went first. Their mana system is unmatched and the balance within the game is fantastic. Sure, metas always exist, but you can climb to Masters with just about anything if you are good enough. Kudos to the devs on this one.
The thing is, with the existence of meta decks, there’s always a balance patch, variety update, or expansion every month to change it, so it’s almost impossible for one deck to stay tier 0 for more than a few weeks
Totally agree, not only is it possible to climb with pretty much any kind of deck, with how F2P friendly is, you can try any decks without spending money
@@MerolLord that’s why Path of Champions is so good. You can play it for weeks and weeks and get so many cards from the weekly vault that you’re almost guaranteed a deck that’s good, not to mention you get so much knowledge about the various archetypes, interactions, and synergies from playing it. It’s easily the best part about LoR, and makes it so easy to start because you get all the experience without any of the competitiveness. Plus, since every deck you play there is different, you complete quests so fast it’s nutty.
please tell me wtf do i do if the enemy draws their champion before i draw mine? i feel like games are decided so fast by snowballing champions.
also unlike HS i cant for the live of me craft the decks i want unless i spend money.
@@h.benali8304 1, you might need to mulligan harder for your champions, or look for a deck that isn’t as reliant on them, and 2, I dunno I’ve never had that problem.
One of this game's biggest successes in my opinion is just how much it has done for League of Legends' lore - expanding it really well and making more people interested. We get introduced to a lot of different characters and creatures and we get to know more about the relationships between them and champions we already know with the voicelines in the game. I've been quite interested in the lore since waay back but especially after they ditched summoners and they started paying more attention to it. For a long time I've wanted something that would let me experience the world of League outside of just the game itself and this game and Arcane both made me happy for this reason and hopefully Arcane season 2 and the upcoming Riot MMO bring more attention to League lore because I think the world of Runeterra is really well crafted and deserves it.
I would go as far as to say Legends of Runeterra single handily made me care about Riot as a company. Back when they were just the "League of Legends" company, I really didn't care about the world they were building. Why should I? Runeterra with its exceedingly high production quality and legitimately excellent storytelling made me invested, and now I keep a close watch on what Riot Forge is up to.
@@webbowser8834I can say the exact same thing
To me it seems now that they gave up a little about giving lor through LoR because of arcane's success. For example path of champions started having stories in it but they just stopped with that
@@Eagle-Flywell after the recent lore update LoR became much more important
@@MrWTFgameplay what exactly do you mean? You mean the asol poc update?
I am impressed that you condensed 10 hours into 23 minutes! Hope to see you play more LoR in the future!
Hi Roly
17:11 it's literally the exact same in Magic, you just didn't realize it because there's an "auto pass" turned on by default. In magic you literally pass priority to the other player after anything happens basically. Technically you would be hitting that button like 10x more in magic if you didn't have the auto pass thing enabled by default.
This game has an auto pass as well, the big difference is you're able to go back and forth playing sorcery speed spells and creatures in each round, as opposed to only being able to interact with your opponent's turn at instant speed in MTG
totally xD
@fish_in_distress Yes, the point is Rarran is acting like you have to hit the Pass button a lot in this game but not so much in a similar game like MTG. What he isn't realizing is that he would be hitting Pass WAAAAY more in MTG if the auto pass feature wasnt enabled by default and wasn't hidden in the background.
@@SmashCentralOfficialRight, but the auto-pass in Magic also covers a lot more because you can basically only interact at instant speed during your opponents' turn, and you're less likely to have an instant (i.e. something you may be able to use) than in Runeterra, where, since you *may* be able to use something basically always, you have to pass much more often.
Now, if you turn auto-pass off, they're both probably about the same, and, in fact, magic is probably worse because of the phase structure.
@@SaberToothPortilla I haven't played Magic, but yea, every deck in Lor has cheap spells. From a competitive standpoint, you should keep auto-pass off especially if you run few spells, like combat tricks of Champ spells. I do think Auto-pass improves the experience for Casual play, or grinding ladder
Long time card game player. Played tons of them, but Runeterra is definitely my favourite by a huge margin. I find what Rarran says around 16:40 about the button interesting. LoR is definitely the most intense and involved TCG in the sense that it has the least downtime and most shared considerations you have to make. And that's definitely its most polarizing element. The exact thing that some people don't like about it is exactly what its fans value most about it.
It just feels inherently more competitive and involved than most other TCGs. Stuff like spell mana inherently requires you to consider future turns while playing for instance, which at the highest levels of play you should be doing in other TCGs as well. Stuff that's optional but optimal in other card games is more inherent and necessary to all levels of play in LoR. It's not the most complex card game, but it's probably the sweatiest for better or for worst.
You should look into Digica. The memory system is the best mana system Ive seen in any card game
I come from magic and I definitely agree with your take. The biggest difference in this game is that there is no "may" ability: if you play a card it has it does what it says. It makes sequencing much more important. Win cons also change the game a lot. The damage/draw spells in LoR are actual dogshit in Magic, but the units are regularly more powerful than creatures are. This as well as LoR being an online game (constant balance changes and erattas) makes alternate win cons much rarer and less effective than straight combat. Making almost every deck win in the same way (not strategy, just combat) makes it feel much sweatier for sure.
@@mateodejesus5426 There being no may abilities is almost entirely by design. Runeterra uses a very streamlined "open gamestate/closed gamestate" system where you can only manually make choices or selections during the open gamestate, and then everything resolves automatically once the gamestate closes. Spells and skills use the stack and targets or conditions can be selected, but triggers are instant and automatic. Unlike magic you weave abilities onto the stack as it resolves or make selections/pick targets with triggers as the stack resolves. It's kind of like you're building a giant rude Goldberg stack of effects and consequences where each one recontextualizes all the ones before it. It has far fewer big decisive effects or blow outs, but it also generally has more triggers with more knock on effects during a stack resolution total. The heart of the game is in the minutia. Sequencing 3 spells and all of your blockers exactly right to flip your champion mid combat to give it +1/1 to dodge removal is a semi-common game determining occurrence. There's also a small element of "playing against your own cards" because again, there's no may effects and everything is mandatory. Like the spells where you must spend all of your mana in order to play them, so if you want to spend less mana on them you need to sequence other cards in front of them. Or that declaring an attack with a unit will cause damage to the enemy units, including ones that gain bonuses when they're damaged, and you can't decline to have it hit them. Or that lots of cards will determine the unit they effect with a condition like strongest or weakest instead of targeting, and who they'll hit are subject to change mid stack resolution. That, and the shared round initiative pass system means there's an action economy and taking actions is a resource too, it isn't just mana and card advantage. Playing 4 slow spells (sorceries) in a turn gives your opponent a massive advantage because you've opened 4 stacks and given them 4 actions of their own to develop. Lots of ineividual cards can be threats, answers to threats, answers to other answers, or a combination of the three. Tempo is so massively important that trading down in terms of both mana and cards can situationally be a game winning play surprisingly often. It's also much more bluffing friendly, because of how being proactive versus being reactive with spells works.
If I had to sum it up in a pithy little remark, it's for people who fucking love "fair" magic. It's MtG for MtG players who fucking love green stompy, boros weenies, gruul midrange, rakdos goodstuff, izzet combo that specifically doesn't have infinites, and Selesniya ramp. It's like if MtG limited was a constructed format. Creatures are good, removal is bad, but because it's constructed and not draft you get to actually indulge your build arounds and synergies.
It's Magic if combat math is your favourite part of Magic.
Have you tried Flesh And Blood TCG?
Rarran complimenting the runeterra tutorial is wild when you play the leauge tutorial
The reason LoR is not more popular is because Riot does very little to promote it. TFT is an example, very early on nobody would play it if it wasn't in the League client, yet the league client doesn't make any mention of LoR. LoR is like the third child that the parents didn't want but had anyway, which sucks because to me it is the best card game out there.
Billion percent true. Sometimes I ask myself, what if it was the opposite? What if LoR was in the League client and TFT was standalone. I doubt that TFT would be as popular. Think of all the free marketing the game gets by just being a click away for the entire League playerbase. Sure, not everyone will like it, but there is literally no barrier of entry compared to LoR.
started it, loved it for months, but in part the problem is that its a riot title, i cant get my friends from hearthstone to try it, no
i would play more lor if it was on the client tbh@@demonseed360
To be fair, TFT was popular even before it was on league client. I remember the 8 hour queues to get on pbe before it even released properly
They hate it because it nets very little profit objectively.
Kinda sad it seems like Rarran didn't touch the Challenges tab because they are "basically" an extended tutorial and are amazing at teaching you the ins and outs of each keyword, and it updates with each new keyword. It even helped me notice a cool detail about a keyword I thought I already knew, that being Overwhelm able to not be blocked if the blocker dies before the attack is made (such like a spell killing the opposite minion)
They used to update with each new keyword, they stopped doing them with the last 2 or 3 expansions
yes please, more runeterra stuff.
I'm all here for the crossover episodes bby
Never played runeterra, league of legends or even seen the show. This looks fun and I Would love to see more content
highly recommend runeterra and the tv series, but stay away from league if you care about your sanity xd
^True facts of the 21st century right here. 💯 I've been playing since season 2's preseason(ig just before rarran) and let me tell you... I feel my lifespan diminish with every click, and league is VERY click intensive.
>insert the league bad comment here
Been waiting for this video. This is dope. *Just finished watching the video and getting to plat that fast is impressive considering you haven't played it recently. Keep up the good work and you'll be at masters in no time!
I cant believe rarran actually became one of the few elite players of the game who spent money... almost only 10% of players have achieved this
One of the things I love the most about LoR is that it possible to climb with pretty much any kind of deck, and with how F2P friendly is, you can try any of those decks without spending money, it's really fun to constantly brew and try new things, from meme decks to meta decks they are all really easy to build after you hoard up a decent collection with the weekly vaults. In any other card game crafting decks is such a big time/money commitment it becomes really hard to try new things or invest on a offmeta deck, I love HS and MTG but it always bums me out I can't build fun brews without spending hundreds of dollars, with how little F2P rewards they give, it forces you to spend all of it on meta decks
We happily welcome you into the world of LoR content-creators if you want to make more videos on it. Weve recently lost some big streamers (swim, mogwai, grapplr) and just from your interactions with snnuy i know you are the guy to fill the void! glad you enjoy lor, i hope it stays that way ^^
runeterra is better than hearthstone :) (thanks for all the likes greatly appreciated 👍)
Yeah, first to be gay
@@bobbooker1948 D: :C
Better at being bad, yes
Agree runterra is better
better at being unfun
Man, it feels so good hearing all this good stuff about my favourite card game. Thanks for such a great job sharing this experience with others. Your content as always slaps❤❤❤
LoR is soo good. 4/5 games feels like been dictated by good plays and missplays. Art, music, climate, this game is brilliant and I am happy to see you doing some content on it
Me as a Magic Player, i realy enjoy Path of Champion. Taking some time of pvp just with the twist to also play a great card game is awesome. Riot did great with this one.
Fun facts from me :
1 year Runeterra : cards complete
1 year Marvel Snap : 3 more cards
I geniuenly love both Hearthstone and Legends of Runterra. Hearthstone because I like to make goofy decks, Runeterra for fully thematic ones.
One of the reasons why I love Runeterra is that it encourages vastly different playstyles with it's myriad of champions. The different 'regions' are not limited to one playstyle and you can mix and match them as you please.
For example: Bilgewater decks can focus on black powder & explosives with Gangplank at the helm, oblitirate your own deck to summon enormous sea monsters with Nautilus OR you can make a deck that's all about brawling & intimidation with a group of shark people who have the freaking Undertaker (Jack) as their leader.
Though my personal favorite deck as of right now is overcoming the odds with Pantheon (THE gigachad of League) and his band of followers.
Also Path of Champions is legit addicting and was my gateway to enjoying card-based roguelikes such as Monster Train and Erannorth Chronicles.
I love your content and your personnality, and LoR is my favorite card game so obviosly I would LOVE the mix of the two. Keep the great work ❤️
Please do make more LoR content! There aren't a ton of youtubers who do highly edited content like yours for LoR, it's definitely a niche that can be filled!
One other huge thing HS innovated on was doing tons of game mechanics that really only work on digital (Lots of random effects and card generation). It's interesting to see how LoR handles the format, and the hero animations are a pretty huge
That tierlist joke was perfetly edited very funny
16:55, I think the word would be "engaging" the game definitely needs pretty much your full attention at all times. But its good, I really enjoy the Path of Champions stuff
LoR definitely took inspiration from Eternal(another card game) in relation to the weekly chest. Glad they did. For me, i stopped playing HS because of UiS and there was too much content being thrown at me. The game treated me too much like a addict. LoR and path of champions are genuinely amazing
I'd LOVE to see more runeterra content from ya
Every time I see an LoR video from you in my recommended it just sparks joy within me. Great stuff, Rarran, keep it coming
Please more, this is genuinely so fun to watch.
This deserves a like just for that tier list, haha. Definitely agree with everything you said as a fellow long time League of Legends player. Seeing all the champions and art has been super awesome, and I love playing the game even if I just get on to play PvE sometimes.
Love the content, i stopped mid 2nd VOD, but was really entertaining to watch you enjoy Volibear and hate on pink region 😂
"If you play Ionia, you can go fu-"
Procedes to show himself playing Ionia Targon
love that tierlist. its pretty accurat. also love to see more content of LoR.
After years of playing Yu-Gi-Oh, no other card game can faze me in terms of complexity.
Runeterra vs yugioh which is better to rank up fast if you're F2P player?
@@umarmars47 Runeterra of course but Master duel is similar in terms of F2P with the crafting system i was able to craft a meta deck in a 4 days basically . But you have to play like mad around those days and spend your gems wisely on packs .
I gave up on runeterra despite thinking it's a great game because i felt like "it makes me think too much", like it was tiring for me, the way you explained the issue of the pass mechanic was perfect and translated my feelings on the game very well
Always good to see you giving some love to other games brother but my god is your humor just delightful; i lost my shit at the "basically" counter
"Careful! Next game, if you don't win, you lose!" mhm... yes...
Floor is made of floor
sunny would be proud of that tierlist
Whoaaaa rarran playing runeterra! I sincerely believe LoR is the best game out there, no hate for others (i played MTG for 20 years and hearthstone for 4! Others for very little). I love that people are giving LoR more attention, it really deserves it
As someone that started playing during the beta, i love seeing this game getting more popular. It sucks that It has a small team working rn compared to back in the day, but they seriously do an amazing job. Also more lor on your channels means more collabs with sunny right?
Rarran big time lurker and I'm loving the new games, switching it up is great even if it isn't the highest view videos
I came to lor years ago as a HS fan who couldn’t really get to loving the game due to the, at the time, prohibitive monetization you had to go through before getting viable fun decks. Add to it the advent of the patches meta and there was good reason to start looking at other TCGs. LoR is fantastic in the ease of crafting that it gives new players.
The back and forth action model of the game was unintuitive at first coming from HS, but over time I’ve started to see it as perhaps LoR’s greatest feature. The interactibility that the game grants each and every player, (mostly) irrespective of the deck that they play is far more engaging than HS ever allowed itself to be. I very much recommend playing this game, even if you want a more laidback format of play for a casual game.
Super stoked for more LoR content wherever possible. Cheers!
i do recommend that u also try Path of Champions, its one of few reasons i actually play this game alot, as someone that played this game since foundation, Path of Champions was one of the best additions in my opinion to make me come back and play this game alot.
This was such a fun watch. As a shadowverse player and someone who's played LoL a bit too much, when they announced this game you know I was playing day 1. As a Shen one trick, theory crafting a deck around him was really fun. There was so much right about this game but the one thing I lost interest in was how when a new expansion came out, it never really changed my optimised Shen deck most times. Dont get me wrong, it was cool to see these LoL champions translated into a card game, but I never wanted to play them personally. I know its probably a me thing about just playing one champ though. But in Shadowverse and its rotation format, every new expansions means a new period to theory craft decks, and every class gains new tools that you have to learn and adapt to.
That said i also hope you cover Shadowverse the same way here and I'm super down for your raw opinion of the game (the good and the bad). And yes I know LoR has a rotation format too but it was much later than its release.
he got to the class explanation and there's a basically counter. This is a good video
I'm actually already here for your rare Runeterra videos so seeing more of them would be fucking fantastic. ♥
It's an underrated aspect of HS for me that I love the characters from WoW (except Malfurion, who is a whiny baby), so I like you being honest about the characters drawing you in.
17:07 "The button"
Lol man, this button got the best of me sometimes😂 is fun how there are similarities with lol gameplay, this game is veeery attention rewarding, just like league formula itself
16:25 thats actually the main reason I switched back to HS and then Master Duel.
I love cards game but I like to play them the most during drinking my coffé or eating alone at night 😂
22:00 there is crafting in this game. Those green shards can be used to craft any card including champions. You get green shards from duplicates. Thanks for covering the greatest card game ever made that makes no money.
You right! Thats my bad!
@Rarran also there is wildcard which allows you to trade it for the same rarity of said wildcard and the green shards which you get from dupes
Fire Video I wish more people play Legends of Runeterra in the future. It's really nice what they do with the Lore in the game.
LoR has a few anti-afk features
1) while the turn timer is long enough, if you time out once, your next timers is like 1/10 or 1/5 the length... it's nuts. this resets once you manually pass again
2) if the game sees you afk for 2 of your rounds {having the Attack Token twice}, it will auto-surrender you
3) if your opponent notices you are afk.. which is easy because of the timer. it's actually in their best interest, to do nothing on your turn/round, causing a mutual pass, and getting the attack token back
"volibear i hardly knew her" got me weak
The thing about Legends of Runeterra is that they actually studied other card game, see what people disliked about those card game, then add those fixes into Legends of Runeterra at launch.
Like for example, the dev knew your point would go to waste when the turn ends in Hearthstone, that's why they added the spell point. The dev knew you would feel helpless when it's your opponent turn, biggest example of that is Yugioh, something even Yuguoh fan disliked about Yugioh, so they made you both take turns just using 1 cards at a time instead which helps to be fair as possible since that makes it easier to defend but also more engaging which can either be bad or good thing depending on your taste, for me I like that it's more engaging, it might jabe something to di with thr fact that card games was my childhood before mobile was ever a thing, so I prefer to go at it non-stop rather than wait during my opponent turn though, plus I think better defense is nicer too, in Yugioh although rare, there was a back to back duel and that was the best duel I ever had, but in LoR I get to do that more often, just less epic but also less wait time. That does mean it's not as simple as Hearthstone but it's still more simple than most other popular card game though, it's like in a perfect middle ground in my opinion.
They even said they aren't gonna cut the server of the game because they love this game themselves. They even made this the most F2P friendly live-service card game out there, literally.
Now that's passion. And this is coming from someone who don't like MOBA, as in I'm not a fan of League. Sadly they seen to be pretty bad with advertising though, that's why it's not popular, not because it's more engaging with the button, I actually like that for the reason I stated above, if you don't like it then that's just your personal taste, not why it's not popular, it's not popular because of the advertisement. For example they didn't even put LoR button in LoL menu for couple years after launch, they only added that recently in fact, whereas something like LoL Tactics had that since launch instead, that should tell you everything. Lol 😂
Thx for LoR content, every single LoR gamer appreciate your work to make good ccg more popular❤
I think your thoughts on "the button" (i.e. priority) is very interesting. I didn't consider before how passing priority could be annoying. Unfortunately though, I think card games that use priority will always have to function that way. If you didn't get priority, things would always resolve before you can respond to them. It would no longer be a pro-active game by design, and would defeat the purpose of "fast" spells altogether.
Cool vid dude, I'm glad you enjoyed LoR. You explained the differences in appeal to the card game audience really well. Definitely looking forward to more of you content!
I never really thought about the button thing, but now that you said it, it kinda makes sense
6:40 good tier list, snnuy would definitely aproof
Meme decks in this game rock! You can even win sometimes against meta decks!
"It's fun to play the class but when you're going against it you'll probably hate it."
Pink region, pink region, pink region....
Would definitely be great to see you expand into this space
The tutorial is way better than the HS one, cuz is dynamic and give you current cards, not only basic cards
I wish this game had more people playing it. So much love put into this game.
Having played LoR from the beginning, I've grown frustrated and stopped playing, but you reminded me that it's still a great game at the core
Would absolutely love to see more Runeterra content from you, and its never a bad idea to try to diversify your content a bit, especially with how volatile blizzard has been recently
i'd love to see more of Legends of Runeterra tbh
I'd love to see more LoR content by you! Your videos with Snnuy are always great, and now that you're playing the game again, it'd be cool to see you do some challenges with Snnuy! He made a video where he had to win 3 games on 3 different monitors all at once, and it was nuts. I don't expect you to have to do the same, but I just wanted to use an example. Maybe you could make a video where you guys have to draft a deck, or spin a wheel to see what champs you make a deck around. Anything could be fun, and I'd definitely watch!
Welcome dude! Love your vids
Darkness is my favorite deck too! It is so much fun to just completely cobtrol and bully my opponent untill they surrender!
Runeterra legit might be the only card game I reinstall. I've generally quit all of the major ones due to the chase (the need to keep up with meta especially post rotations). But runeterra is just so fun
Yes, please more content for LoR! Great game that has a lot of different play styles! Interested in seeing more dives into this game! There is the single player content, the tournament content, 2 player co-op mode, and the for fun lab content all to choose from on top of the "regular" 1v1 normals and ranked options.
6:43 so you've fully mastered this game in a few hours. Impressive!
I'd love for you to make more Legends of Runeterra content.
I just started playing it myself, and having youtuber I know jump onto it with me would be the absolute best!
"The goal of the game, just like in every other card game, is to kill your opponent"
Lorcana (Pixelborn) video when ?
You should try out the Path of Champions (PvE) gamemode. THAT is being slept on. It's a massive single player subgame to Legends of Runeterra, similar to the likes of Slay the Spire but with about 20 times more content and you can just play it for free. You can get different powers, put items on cards, get absolutely ridiculous combos and face absolutely ridiculous enemies.
Barely anybody seems to notice it when it in my opinion is clearly the best game in its entire genre
Runeterra is cool cause it’s the closest you can get to an irl card game with all the passing back priority and interaction without all the annoying stuff like manually keeping track of health
“I’ve never played a game that demanded that you interact with a button so often”
Clearly has never felt the pain of a single MTGO game
Weirdest part of runeterra is that its struggling because its too free2play friendly xD
Sunny would be proud of that tier list
More Runeterra content is welcomed
I absolutely agree on the 'intrusive' button thing. It feels more like a game that is better on PC because it commands too much attention.
The game is great, I've been playing since launch, but I always prefer some random gacha whenever I try to play it on phone. The complicated deck building helps a lot, but because its so attention-hungry it's not fit for on the go casual gameplay.
Hope you continue with it. LoR is usually slept on because people tend to have the perception of it being a cheap cashgrab card game when it's really solid all around since League is so much bigger.
I played a massive amount of hearthstone, then took a break and played duelyst. After that I went back to hearthstone and took a break to play runterra. Then I went back to duelyst and then hearthstone.
It's like a cycle.
16:30 the thing is that this is why i play Runeterra instead of the other card games. More interaction between me and my opponent. No solitary turns.
You promise and now I wanna see the "original" content of LoR you planned
tbh i was waiting for a Snnuy boss fight at the end, but at least now there's gonna be more context for the card ranking collabs lol
LOR has the turn dynamics of MTG, the passive mana of HS and the rule 32 art of Yu-Gi-Oh.
We're nearing the bottom of the barrel, we might get Artifact soon
called it
Damn, I need more of these LoR videos from you
I got into YUGIOH duelmasters from you lol, I ran that Salamangreat deck to eat too
I played hearthstone years ago, Yugioh as a kid and when duel links came out and magic is my fav card game out of them all but I’ve recently been addicted to master duels. You trashing it got me into it
Been playing sett sivir recently a lot. I gotta say, proud that I don't run deny in my ionia deck.
Been wanting to get into runeterra for a while never did, I would watch you play it. It would help me get into it
Did he end up discoverying the PVE mode? Good lord is it the perfect mobile card game
I need more of LoR! Keep up the good work :)
i played LoR from Bilgewater to the Irelia nerfs, then i quit because the dev team was catering to a few streamers and they didnt even make the effort to try and hide it, whatever these few dudes wanted from the balance team they got it. I hoped that the game would get better sometime and seeing it so it makes me want to go back and play it