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EBAY Tire Balancer Calibration! - One Year Review of the Inexpensive Mayflower & XK Tire Machines
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In this video I give detailed instructions on how to properly calibrate the eBay or Mayflower tire changer and balancer. There is very limited information on how to do this and the customer support language barrier can be confusing and frustrating. I also go over what I think about these machines after owning them for a year!
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Great video, especially for calibrating the balancer. Plain, simple and to the point. Well spoke and easy to hear.
Bonus points for not wasting time telling us about crap we don't care about.
Thank you.
Thank you for this. I set up my machine by your instructions, and it's working great.
One tip for your viewers, when you level the machine, don't put level the top of the machine. Level the spindle instead. The plastic top of my machine was a couple of degrees misaligned from the spindle.
Good advice! I figured there was a better way to level it. Makes sense that the spindle should be the leveling point. 🤙🏻
I have the same combo package and love them. I added an air hose with a shut off valve to the tire machine so I can unhook my air hose to fill the tire without losing all the air in the machine. I did not like the tire filling hose that came with the machine. I do not have my balancer bolted down and it works fine. I do have it on a level surface and I make sure it does not wobble while in use. It is nice to be able to change my own tires. If I pick up a nail in my tire it is easy to pull the tire off, patch the tire and reinstall and balance it. For what the tire shops charge to mount and balance tires this machine pays for itself pretty quickly.
This was very easy to understand, unlike other videos on this subject, you have sold me on these machines, Thanks, Good job!
It seems to be a little glitch with these balancers. I bought the 960-680 combo a few weeks ago. I calibrated mine immediately. What I noticed was that sometimes when you spin the wheel and add the appropriate weights and then spin it again, the machine tends to want a 1/4 ounce opposite of where you placed the first weights. When that happens simply add 1/4 ounce less weight than what it initially calls for. For example, if it wants a 1.75 ounce on one side and a 1 ounce on the other side, instead use a 1.5 ounce and a .75 ounce, seems to zero out every time. But also like you said, a .25 ounce is splitting hairs, I’ve balanced thousands of tires and I would argue anything under an ounce wouldn’t be noticeable going down the road. I just like it to zero out or it annoys me lol. One immediate issue I saw with the balancer is the fact it only came with 3 cones, the biggest will not be big enough in many cases if you balance a lot of tires. Mayflower makes a fourth cone that I bought immediately but I think that one may even be too small in some rare cases. I believe you can buy other brand cones online, as long as it’s for a 36mm shaft like these machines are. Looking at the cones on your machine I’m guessing you also bought some bigger ones?
These actually came with all of the cones you see in the video. It appears that some come with only a few. I have used the larger cone it came with to do truck wheels on full size Chevys and Toyotas.
Price for this?
If the wheel that you used for calibration was out of balance by .25 ounces, would that cause the glitch you are referring to?
Thanks for the info.. looking at buying one of these machines... had a thought... maybe paint that calibration weight with fluorescent paint... to make it stand out.. just a thought
Thanks for the tutorial. Iam picking up one today .I just need a steel rim now.
Thanks for watching!
My 215/45ZR-17's balanced first time with no issues. The 255/40ZR-17's however, not so much. Couldn't get anything consistent and kept chasing the weights around until I came here and read comments. I shimmed and leveled the rotor shaft....that accomplished squat. I finally subtracted 0.25 ounce from the measurements and everything locked right in. At worst, it said it needed 0.25 ounces in the location where I'd subtracted it. But I wasn't falling for that, since every time I added what it SAID to add, it then turned around and said it needed some monstrous amount of weight someplace else.
Hi, great video, thanks. I have the same machine and Iv had the same problems mainly because like you said the language barrier is awful. I finally found a video that explains how to calibrate these machines. You can find the video on you tube BC 988 tooLots china.
Before you start to calibrate , the first thing you do is to input the three wheel parameters, second, you make sure there are no weights on the wheel. Third, you press c and f to start calibration and the rest is putting the calibration weight from one side to the other. I tried it this way and it’s been zeroing perfect. Try it out and see how it works for you. If you have any questions feel free to contact me.
Cant find the video you mentioned. 🤷🏻
Just add .25 less than what it tells you, works every time
Thanks great video helped me a lot my instructions couldn't be read to make sense
Great video. I have the same set up. The calibration in the manual is not explicitly clear. I think it would be cool if you would go thru every setting. I hope you are getting paid for this!
That’s not a bad idea. Maybe I’ll make a video on all of the different wheel weight options and basic use. Don’t get paid for these videos, besides a very, very small ad percentage. So every video “like” and channel subscription makes it worth it!
Thanks for the video and thanks for the tips on how to secure the balancer. The shims were very useful
Glad it helped!
Great video! Thanks! I just purchased this combo to mount and balance my track tires. I will be referring to this video if I have any issues.
Paint your calibration weight blaze orange and label it CALIBRATION 🙂👍
☝️This guy! I give you the unofficial best comment of the video thus far. 🔥
@@SignMeUpDesigns Careful, paint has weight.
5:00 the wheel weight tool is made by gear wrench. All tool brands rebrand it. Snap on does make an original design that I prefer but it’s $80
I knew a few different companies had similar designs. Some are probably identical with different branding. I don’t believe I’ve seen the snap on tool before. I’ll have to check it out.
Great video. Now I know how to calibrate mine!
I intend to buy this. Glad I found this video
I’ve had the same wheel balancer now for a few years. Was skeptical when I bought them because I actually replaced two Coats
machines with them. LOL they work great I’ve done over 100 tires. I have a specific smaller rim that I use to calibrate the machine so every now and then I will use that same rim and re-calibrate the machine I have the rim marked where the weights go and so far it’s recalibrated it to the same exact spot every time. Pleased with the purchase. The color was perfect my friend made me Bluepoint stickers and I put them on the front. LoL tire machine I purchased with the cheetah built into it. It works pretty damn good large tires I need a second cheetah but that goes for any large tire
Great video and information. Thank you. I'm planning on buying one within a year or so.
I just got mine and it’s absolutely amazing. Iv worked with all kinds of tire machines but this one is the best and you can’t beet the price.
@@roberthayes5037 thanks. All I see now are the Mayflower ones at about $1800.
Awesome video, thank you for the information!
Im using this balance machine for last five years on my shop and still working excellent and tires changer broke down after few months
The tire changer actually broke down on us after about a year or so too. Some of the cheap, plastic air lines on the turn table broke and leaked all of the air out. My local air fitting supplier didn’t have the exact parts but I was able to make some brass fittings work to the tune of $100. It was an annoying fix since I had to totally disassemble the top of the machine but now I shouldn’t have to worry anymore.
Thank you, cause I've been looking at these,
Had the same issue with mine, thanks for the video, hopefully this will resolve the issue.
Good luck!
You need to do a factory calibration. One step above that one.. I have a different model (Brite) It's been excellent, and now can balance factory 106 mm Toyota truck rims perfect. Along with most Motorcycle rims/ tires . You cannot include all the China models /clones in the same boat.. Most the time the balancers are pretty good, but the mounting of the rim on the balancer is the true problem. Getting consistent readings with these machines takes quality setup. in the area of mounting plates/cone styles/etc.. I took my larger cone, and turned it to fit the center hub, and turned it to fit the Toyota center hub, and use a cheap China adjustable finger plate. I get 2 thousands run-out out of the rim with that setup.. That is way better then most rims built anywhere in the world.. Balance out perfect, and as good or better then super high-end machines..
I did try doing the calibration without a tire on the rim.. Not a good idea, because it caused the chasing weight issue that the machine never had. Remounted the test rim, and tire.. all zero's, and easy to get there again..
Any link to the step above factory calibration? I'd really like to try that.
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Little different machine, but gives you a idea of the extra steps involved. Not sure if mayflower has the Manual on line hat is closer to your unit?
Thanks man have same machines now calibrated
Thank you, I was thinking to buy a cheap machine like this to personal use. I just subscribed to you channel .👍🏻
Thanks for the sub!
Hello,
I've purchased this same combo, was wondering about the different setting on display, what's fine for, or the F button is is that used for calibration, also getting and adaptor for doing motorcycle rims
Thanks for the vid, any help would be appreciated
I have a XinKong SBE 680 wheel balancer. I can't get it into the Calibration page. I hit C and F simultaneous. I may momentarily see the Calibrate/Calibrate and then it falls back to the set up pages (Width, Diameter, etc.) but can't get the calibrate option. Please help.
How do I change from SAE to Metric? I've seen a 180 and I can't figure out where that's suppose to bring me. What is that (Grams, Metric. sae, fractions?)?
Can anyone help me? My machine reads in grams..I'd like to switch the settings from grams to oz. How do you do it?
Press the C button to swap G for OZ
Thanks!
sorry meant to send 5 and thanks again
Thank you so much!!
Very similar to how the old coats cal method works
Paint the calibration weight red 🙏🏻🙌
I have the same one and as you know the tire changer doesn’t open enough to clamp 20” wheels from the outside. I know the sell some type of adapter for it but I don’t know if I’m looking at the right ones. The only ones I see are the ones that say motorcycles and atv adapters, do you happen to know which ones are the ones I need in Oder to be able to clamp 18” 20” wheels and bigger from the outside? Thank you
There’s an upgraded version of this machine (with the bead blaster) that is advertised to work up to 20” outside clamping and 24” inside clamping. I would bet that if you could find the parts for the upgraded machine that they would fit right into your machine.
Hello from Connecticut, Very helpfull video. Can you do a skid steer tire with this Tire Changer. Maybe like a 10x16.5 Thanks Greg
I would think so. I know it will definitely outside clamp a 10” wheel and even one that tall shouldn’t be a problem. Let us know if anyone knows for sure.
AWESOME video!!! Thanks!
Weaver balancers say you have to use a steel rim and tire to do the calibration and not an aluminum one. Why would that matter? I called and asked the guy and he said you have to but could not tell me why? Just trying to understand.
I’m sure other balancers have different ways to calibrate. I can’t speak on the weaver machines, but Hunter balancers required an entirely different procedure than this cheap Chinese machine. This procedure for this machine worked well for me and the balancer still works fine to this day.
This 180 that comes up on the righthand side "window" ; on the lefthand side has a rotating dashs rotating in a rectangular pattern. What is this? "180" what's that?
I’ve read your other comments as well and it sounds to me like the software for your machine is different than the machine in this video. I’ve never noticed a 180 message similar to the one you describe. Unfortunately I won’t be able to help with your questions, but maybe someone else can comment appropriately.
My wheel wobble when I do mines tried to tighten up tighter and the center weight got stuck. I took forever to pull off
Maybe a bent wheel? Or the centering cone isn’t the right size. Good luck!
Thanks bro “ I have a sunny brand Chinese tire machine, looks exactly like yours and would like to get parts for it but don’t seem to find any for Sunny brand .. maybe I can use some from your brand . Is there a particular company you use ? Hopefully they can help me.. appreciate it..👍
I’m sure they’re pretty similar, if not identical. I haven’t needed any additional parts since the original setup so I couldn’t tell you where to go for ordering. Good luck. Let us know if you find somewhere. I’m sure a bunch of would benefit from that info.
Hey great video man I’ve been looking on buy these. Just one question what kind of compressor are you running the tire changer with?
We have a 2 stage Kobalt that runs our whole shop. But these machines don’t need that much. I feel like a simple 20 gallon or better would run it.
Thank you very much for this video. What if I don’t have that 3.5 weight anymore. Can I just use a regular 3.5 weight?
No! You will damage the machine if you put other weight! Only the one that came with a machine.
Of course!
Can you replace low profile tires like corvette tires on that machine
Yes. The lowest profile I have done is a 40 series sidewall. It’s not the easiest but it can be done.
I lost my manual to this machine. Was there a specific size wheel to calibrate the machine with?
Nope. Any wheel will work, but I’ve found a 15” with or without the tire mounted is the best choice.
Does Anybody know where you can get parts for this model machine I have the exact same one
I don’t think there is anywhere available unfortunately. I had some pneumatic fittings go bad and was able to source them locally. A lot of the Chinese parts will interchange with readily available ones.
@@SignMeUpDesigns Thankyou
How about the duck head since is metal I'm sure it scratches wheels? I seen some plastic heads. And are the clamps that hold the wheel all plastic or are they metal with a plastic sleeve on? Thank you
The duck bill is metal but it does not damage wheels. You can set the depth and inward stop point so that it does not contact the wheel. I’ve done hundreds of tires and haven’t scratched a wheel yet. The clamps that hold the wheel are metal but the machine also came with plastic sleeves if you care to run them. The sleeves work for inside or outside clamping protection.
@@SignMeUpDesigns thank you. What's the lowest profile you done?
I’ve done a 35 series on I believe an 18” wheel car tire. I’ve also done a 260/35/18 motorcycle tire. Biggest was a 35” tire on a 20” rim. The machine handled all of them fine.
How's the balancer? Still holding up? Any problems? It actually balances good? No vibrations at high speeds? Thank you.
What is the widest tire or rim that you can balance? My tires are 15" wide.
I haven’t tried a 15” wide. I’ve definitely done a 12” wide on a 35” tire but I wouldn’t try to go much larger than that with this machine. I think you could do 15” wide. Your issue would be the tire size. The neck of the machine doesn’t sit far enough back to do any larger.
@@SignMeUpDesigns My 15" wide tires are only 26" diameter so it sounds like it would work fine.
Is the machines still holding up and would you buy them again?
Still holding up. I had to replace some cheap air valves on the mounting machine which involved pulling the turntable. About $50 in parts locally and 3 hours of time but used all brass instead of plastic. Otherwise no issues. The balancer still fails to “zero out” on bigger wheels and tires but I haven’t had any vibrations afterwards. Would I buy again, yes if I was in the same budget. For daily use I would spend up on name brand machines. For a hobbyist like me these are worth the hassle. All things considered, I’ve only spent $50 and a little time on maintenance over 3+ years. These have more than paid for themselves.
I did all . I keep getting a error 8
If your machine is the same as these and you get that error then there must be an issue with the hardware. If they are less than a year old reach back out to the company you purchased them through. They should be able to help and send you replacement parts for free. Good luck!
How much floor space do you need for each of the machines?
The balancer needs about 2 feet on each side, the mounter needs about 3 feet wide and 2 feet deep.
Man, that combo is now $2000. I should have bought them three years ago when they were $1300...
Inflation hits hard these days!
Sounds like you bought that from a great eBay seller do you happen to have a link to his page on eBay and thanks for the great video
Sorry I don’t. But I can remember that the listing had a technical question phone number listed in the description. That’s the number I used to get everything squared away. Good luck!
do you have customer service info. my turn table quit. im looking for service manual
xkusausa@gmail.com
$1300 bucks before the chinese tariffs. Now its $2k.
So wild. Inflation has hit hard the past few years.
I bought these machines last week and am in the middle of the set up phase with the crappy Chinese instructions. How did you ground the machines? Mine has a ground terminal sticking out the side and says to ground the machine?
I don’t recall having to do that on my machines...maybe this is a new feature they recently implemented. It may even be an optional safety feature in case of lightning or power surges to redirect the power away from the machine. Sorry, wish I could help further.
@@SignMeUpDesigns bro would you please email me and help me with some questions on setting mine up? I can send pics to compare to yours on the difference. These Chinese instructions are trash! gallacmic@yahoo.com
How often do you need to calibrate?
It really depends on how much use they get. I normally recalibrate every 10 sets of tires, some busier use may need monthly calibration.
Did anyone figure out how to change the units of weight from grams to ounces. The manual I got is printed really light and can't tell what buttons to push.
How can I get that replacement weight. I lost mine. Any help please
@@10percent48 There's nothing special about the calibration weight. Just get a 3.5 ounce or 100 gram weight to replace it.
Thanks man
@@10percent48 Order from China, $10 for a pair.
How wide and tall are the machines?
Measurements are approximate - Tire mounting machine is 64" tall x 30" wide. Balancer is 37" x 37".
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how to buy in eBay in India
Sorry, I don’t think I can help you with that.
These Mayflower machines won't work on 8 lug wheels or dually wheels.
No they won’t with the adapters they send with the machines. I think you can buy a bigger cone, but I honestly wouldn’t trust these machines with heavy duty truck wheels and tires.
The adapters for the balancer are about $200 for the 1-ton wheels with the big 6.5" hole in the middle. No reason why it can't do them I would think. They say up to 150lb wheel/tire combo is ok.
Just need the 5.5" balancer cone $40/Amazon and the changer should be the 950 and up
Name brand dosent matter quality is almost the same brands dont matter people make it matter bc there foolish
Hello bro I send you a email my name is koka so if you can check it👍
Thank you for this. The directions it came with are straight trash
Nice video. Lose the music though.
😂 I’d like to think my music tastes and editing have gotten a little better in the past couple years. Thanks for the feedback. 🤙🏻
@@SignMeUpDesigns I still enjoyed the video lol. Could just be me. Music is so distracting.
Thanks!