Rightfully so the man has fought hundreds of battles and duels, felled the mightiest champions in over a dozen kingdoms and not a single drop of his blood has ever been spilled, he is literally a semi-invincible demigod.
...and yet, he himself robs his glory with how he treats Hector's body... That's the foolishness of youth...a blindness to how our own actions rob ourselves of glory.
@@stevewhitaker1705 He takes it from Hector's hands at the last moment at 03:53. So he basically killed him with his own weapon ... talking about disrespect lol, Achilles was a beast!
@@jeremyridge1332better footwork, better balance, better agility, better fighting experience, better endurance, better form.. achilles was a pro player, that maxed out all of his stats and emblems 😂😂😂 while hektor was good, he can't keep up!
@@deanjelbertaustria6174 achilles is a literal demigod, the fact he was breathing pretty heavily towards the end of the fight shows Hector was indeed a great warrior. No man on earth could fight Achilles and live
Not often you got the actual actors do the entire fight scene and it also ends up being one of the best shot fight scenes in movie history. Hats off to Pitt and Bana. Absolute legends.
Top notch choreography and expertly shot. Compare this to most modern "shaky-cam" fight scenes; this is light years better. You can clearly see where each fighter is, what they're doing, why they are doing it. There's no ridiculous gymnastics, no stupid jokes or one-liners. As the fight drags on, exhaustion starts to kick in, even for Achilles. The breathing becomes heavier, the moves, especially Hector, become sloppy and less focused. Most modern fight scenes everyone just kinda walks away like it's no big deal. This one actually has weight and feel to it. Beautiful sequence.
Back when i used to do kick boxing, just fighting 3 minute rounds was exhausting. That was with 14 oz gloves. I can't imagine fighting (for your life) swinging several pound weapons and shields
Achilles is a demigod and above all loved by the gods, that battle was won by the gods.Hector knew he would die in any case and the gods would never allow Hector to scratch Achilles, but Hector managed to cut the armor, and this shows his great skill
Hector is the favorite of Apollo or the son of Apollo depending on which version you read. Apollo kills Achilles by guiding the arrow of Paris, or by becoming Paris depending on version. "The gods" are always fighting with each other and do not make unanimous decisions like all preferring Achilles.
This whole scene is incredibly well done. The subtle music (drumming), the sound of the attacks, blocks, and clangs, the movement is flashy but not to the point of disbelief, and there are stakes for both men since this takes place well into the last bit of act 2. Favorite scene in the movie for me.
I'd say the entire movie is well done... Hollywood won't produce anything like this anymore... it's all fucking comic superhero's... coz we need to match our movies to the degrading infantile culture and decay.
@@stijnvdv2 Ironically the Iliad was as close as you could get to a superhero story in that time period. Marvel films seem totally overdone at this point though. Superhero film aren't doing so hot at the minute so I can imagine they'll die back again soon.
@@stijnvdv2 If you think there is some vast difference between classical epics and modern super hero stories, you aren't very educated on the matter. The quality of the writing may be better in one versus the other, but the content is very similar.
Hector is the only man truly respected in the Iliad. Family man, husband, father, soldier, prince, dutiful son. He fights for his country only, not for spoils or glory. Somehow or another "hector" became a pejorative, a synonym for bully. He's the only man in the Epic I have respect for.
I respect Achilles wishing to be remembered and always fighting to be the best, but I agree that Hector was a solid man in most iterations of the Trojan War
@@gonyx4 it is literally impossible in real politics. Most empires perform some sort of provocation before invasion. Usually killing own noble like he was killed by nearby country. In XX it they explode something on own territory and find proof how it was enemy's doing. Troy was very rich city, worth invading.
"If they ever tell my story let them say I walked with giants, men rise and fall like the Winter wheat but these names will never die... Let them say I lived in the time of Hector, tamer of horses...let them say I lived in the time of Achilles..." Odysseus
It is the best line in the movie though, and I think it's the last one. Man, David Benioff sure can write a decent script when he puts his head into it (Probably because his heart is into it).
Achilles was a demigod who fought a mortal but highly skilled Hector,we must give it to Hector,he showed much bravery and courage in fighting a demigod like Achilles.
@@jackkim1997 if this is true, then the director of this movie was super inconsistent with their themes. Achilles himself at times in the film talks himself down as just a very skilled warrior. He describes himself as mortal.
@@justinjohnson3645 Ancient Greek gods were mortals, they only had very very long lives. What I've said is not a contradiction. And Achilles was a demigod. If Achilles was not a demigod in the movie then the movie was not about the Iliad and the war between greeks and troyans.
3:34 Love how even though Hector is outmatched, Achilles realizes this is the only warrior who's actually lasted this long with him. Achilles looks at him through the heavy breathing like "just die already".
Yea. In the opening, he asks if there is truly nobody else to fight him and prove a challenge. And in Hector, he finds that challenge. Yes Hector was outclassed but there would never be another to make him have to work hard for a victory in a duel. I love that touch.
Achilles even calls Hector "brother" in the movie when he returns his body to King Prium. In the end, Achilles respected Hector for who he was, and what he represented - country, honor, and family
This duel is incredible because it feels so evenly matched but at the same time it is clear that Achilles is in control. Hector is the only fighter that blocks several of his signature moves. And also there are some moments where if it were anyone else in Achilles's place they would be dead. Like at the point where Hector draws his sword.
Yes definitely. Achilles dodged so many attacks it’s ridiculous how skilled of a fighter he was. You can train a whole lifetime to defeat Achilles and still wouldn’t win lol
Brad Pitts physic and athleticism in this dual is very impressive. From just an athlete’s point of view, i can appreciate the choreography that this is actually him performing these lunges and strikes. It also helps to sell the fact that Hector is in way over his head.
Hector is an incredible fighter and even Achilles admitted that. But you can see the difference in skill, Achilles was just really on a league of his own.
Achilles fought hundreds of battles and duels and felled the mightiest champions of multiple kingdoms and not a single drop of his blood was ever spilled. He is a literal demigod.
Hector is rational human, living and fighting for the country and family. Honourable, respectful. Achilles is a savage animal in human form, vengeful, living for himself, and fighting for killing. Respects only his own pack of wolves.. The author of the epics (Homer) described gods and demigods very much as beings of instincts and animalistic passions. And then he contrasts them with humans; if humans succumb to fight with animalistic passions directly, humans will loose. In order to conquer them, humans must use different skills.
It was unfair to begin with. Achilles is a demigod. The fact that Hector accepted his challenges knowing full Achilles will kill him takes balls of titanium. And he went that long with a demigod.
It's little thing's like that in Films that pass me by but now you've said it I can see exactly what you mean. I wish I had more of an eye for this kind of thing.
Hector was against all odds when fighting a demigod, but he most certainly didn't make it easy for Achilles, which was pure testament to his fighting skill. Achilles was the Greatest Warrior, but Hector was the Greatest Hero.
Cool detail in this fight is, you can see Hektor becoming tired as fight went on, and Achillies is basically demigod so he has unnatural stamina. Just before Achillies stabs him with the spear, you can see how tired Hektor was. It's kinda nice detail.
@@abharpI thought Bronze was weaker than Iron, and easier to bend 🤔 Interesting, I'll have to look into that. Then again, Achilles was given special armor by the Gods so, who knows, maybe he really DID just have a different kind of material for his sword than all the others, who knows.
Horrible fight scene I hated what they did. Hector and Achilles are wearing the same armor, fighting on the same field and using the same weapons but they portray it as if Achilles wasn’t wearing his armor the hector would have got him or if hector didn’t trip on that rock he could of gotten Achilles. Achilles managed to avoid the rocks and hector had the same protection and Achilles won because he was the better warrior he had the upper hand the entire fight.
The first time I saw this fight I was like "WTF they just pulled their swords out of thin air!" Now, like 20 years later, I finally see that they had them behind their shields at the beginning!
Usually no man can last even more than a swing against Archilles as shown earlier in the film. He did great for fighting so long & so many exchanges even made Archilles breathing quite hard there.
Well said. When he returns to his tent afterwards, you see him wash his face and recuperate though he looks visibly tired. He underestimated Hector in my opinion.
@@cassavaman3784 He also feels sorry for killing him but why? Hecor thought he killed Achilles but it was his stupid nephew who stole Achilles' armour. Why be angry at Hector? Guy did his duty and fought for his kingdom.
The chereographer for Achilles movements did a fantastic job. Achilles' motion was fluid, precise, and definitive. He made hector look like he was just spamming attacks. The level of skill displayed by Achilles was truly leagues above Hector's.
@2:02 I always found fascinating how the design of the greek shield help with versatility by using the spear. in that position you still can protect yourself and at the same time strike with the spear.
I sticked a shovel i used to clear off the snow of my grandads grave in my left foot after finishing the job, thankfully my boots were thick enough and i didn't cut off my foot in half
@@MrMatalo123 I have no memories of that. I remember Achilles dragging Hector's body around the city after defeating him but not cowardice from Hector. Are you positive ?
No matter how many times I watch this scene, I can't help myself and always hope Hector to win. I know the lore is different. But in this movie, he was the true hero.
This is completely wild for me. I watch this film every year for the last 15 years and never once I thought about Hector winning but it's cool to comment about the movie and see other people's perspective
@@MrConhobar ..that and, in the movie, Troy be acting like their side is righteous. Troy got massacred over dude that can't fight stealing another dude's wife. The depth it pissed me off that Paris ends up killing Achilles is ridiculous.
@@andrewvincent7299 I kind of disagree , sure Hector being the elder had that disposition but Paris was also exceptionally lazy and reckless when it came to women . Look at Patroclus for comparison, he was younger and wasn’t groomed to rule yet he was way more dutiful and actually offered a fight to Hector of all peoples .
i love this fight scene so much. it's perfect. at the start of the fight you can clearly see the two men are virtually equals. as the fight wears on, though, you see luck and fatigue start to kick in. hector is a noble, a man of privilege. Achilles is a man forged entirely by war. he has no noble blood nor claim to a throne. he has his ability to fight. at the end hector loses because hes tired, not because he's a lesser fighter. the illiad describes the fight as a duel of both mortals and gods. when the gods abandon hector and only then can Achilles kill him.
How infuriating it must be to swing at someone who moves with such skill and grace and how terrifying it must be to know this same man will plunge his steel in your flesh and butcher your dead body.
Well, it's the bronze age so weapons are not THAT heavy, but considering that men were considerably small back then, they required good physics, something the greeks excelled into.
Fun fact: Brad Pitt and Eric Bana made a agreement where in every hard blow you should pay $100 and every light blow $50. Pitt ended up paying Bana $750, while Bana didn't owe Pitt anything.
I love the sounddesign of that movie so much. So different from everything else I know from movies. Really metallic, but also when they cross their spears is a real joy to hear
Hector showed strength, courage and honor. Achilles was blinded by hatred. At the end, they were equal as man, but Hector wasn't a demigod and his mortality got him tired meanwhile Achilles was just getting started, combat was sealed since their birth.
First you never read the Iliad of Homer. Second you're idiot who toot the part of someone without knowing the real story. Aphrodite sait to Hector that he can defeat Achilles after he was running 10 times the walls of Troy to escape from Achilles chasing him. Achilles knew that he will die in Troy just not from whom and when. Achilles was living like was his last moment. Achilles was more than brave and he was not immortal. He was demigod but not immoral. Read Iliad
I love the drum beat playing in the back. Each note tells of measurements, cultural story and discipline that go well with accuracy of skill of the duel. Then when the woman’s cry begins- pure sadness, pain and unfairness people had to go through in the ancient world. Amazing scene. Hector looked at death and drew his sword ready to die but before that he would fight. Absolute balls, and Achilles is scary as shit
seriously. there's no reason not to just shoot achilles down while he's standing there vulnerable since your armies are going to fight to the death anyway.
"A tragedy that inspired Shakespeare, Akira Kurosawa Japanese Cinema and modern storytelling like Game of Thrones. The legendary meeting of two Ancient warriors, both of them great men. Bounded together as soul brothers in all but name before time began but doomed to be born on earth fighting for different sides of War. Cursed are the friends that fight against each other needlessly."
Hector wasn't no pushover, the ONLY thing that got him was his fear, he paused and got gripped with fear for a slight second, and as they say, on the battlefield, that's eternity
I’d say it was a bit more than that. Maybe we can attribute his fear to his overall performance, but everything about the depiction of this fight showed an Achilles with the dominant control of the situation. Hector was burning through his energy a lot faster just trying to hold on while Achilles maintained his control, form and pace throughout. Barring an error on Achilles’ part, it was only a matter of time till Hector had nothing left. Still a hell of a fight.
@@blakebowles7818 nah man, I have had to thumbs down that shit.. y'all always putting extra in a fight, it's a movie, I enjoyed it for what it was, not that extra passionate tiger bs, nah u see the truth is these ppl used shady means to win, and now days if u use a poison dart instead of ur sword, it's cowardly... 😂 U won't understand what I'm sayin so lets jus agree to disagree, I'm not the UA-camr arguing type.. I stand by my fuckin words lol
One of my favourite things about this fight is that it highlights something the film has been, somewhat, subtly showing off throughout it's run time; that Achilles is on a completely different level to anyone else. All through the film we see Achilles, almost involuntarily, maybe even subconsciously, making movements with his body that either move him out of harms way, or take a blow on his shield or an armoured part of his body. Then the film gives us this duel. The two greatest warriors from either side facing off against each other, and it become clear very quickly that Hektor doesn't stand a chance. He throws everything he's got at Achilles and we see, more clearly, what the film has been showing us about the way Achilles fights, we see those inhuman movements that keep him from harm (one of the more noticeable ones is at 3:32, where it almost looks like his leg is pulled out of the way by some unseen force), and we see the way Achilles needlessly flourishes almost every blow because he knows he can't be harmed. But, despite all this, the film does Hektor a service that the original poem didn't. It, not only, let's Hektor have a fight with Achilles (in the poem he runs away until Achilles manages to catch him), but it lets him actually land a blow that gives Achilles a moment of pause.
I remember the interviews with Brad Pitt and Eric Bana after this scene was shot. They revealed that they had quietly agreed to go all-out in this fight scene, risking injury to give it all teh realism they could. Those blows against one another were full-force
The fact he barely breaks a sweat and dominates the majority of the fight against "the best he fought" Hector, considered the best warrior in the world by those unaware of Achilles, shows just the elite level Brad Pitts Achilles is at..
I love how in the moments before the fight, Eric Bana walks though and pretty much says goodbye to eveyone! "And don't forget to water my Azaleas now!" Hahahhahahha!
Despite anything else, I actually think even with Achilles bluster at Hector, he respected him deep down. Hector fought with honor. Achilles soiled his name when he dragged Hector's body and paraded it. It was the move of a coward, and dishonored himself as a whole as Achilles was a Myrmidon and the demigod son of Peleus King of Myrmidon and Thetis the Nereid.
Eveeyone is talking about hector and what not but what about the dude that got killed with flying arrows when he saw the many ships coming towards trojan unexpectedly he was kool too
The moment at 3:40 after cutting Achilles armor, fighting with a demigod for three minutes straight. He picked up his broken spear and fights like hell again, and you see in Achilles face that this is the greatest man he's ever fought. Without the God's he would have lost. Achilles would never acknowledge such a thing but you see it in his expression in that moment.
Hector was the real hero in this movie,fought for honor and love to which he died at the hands of someone he knew he could never defeat portraying how brave and courageous he also was 💪🏻✌️
I really enjoyed this cut scene of Troy. Hector was a great leader and brother, only if hus brother wasn't such a... well, little immature fool. But then he still fought to protect him and his mistress. That aside, i thoroughly enjoyed how well executed the beginning and the transition between each character. Also, the way Achilles style and his hamdle of the spear to measure distance and to get a good read on his opponant . Then after switching to his sword which i gotta say, "the way he utilized and incorporated his strikes like a scorpions stinger a type of extension to get close to his opponent. But how he used his sword kind of makes me wonder how the Achilles fought... mustve been a spectacle to watch .
I remember watching this at the movie theater when it first came out. Every time the swords and shields made contact it felt like it rocked the whole theater. I heard somewhere that this was filmed in middle of summer during the blazing heat and that Brad Pitt needed and oxygen mask because he smoked a lot of cigarettes.
I was 20 when I first watched this. I was in Mexicali. I’m 39 now and it makes way more sense. The amount of prince warriors that went down in front of their father, general, and all their people is innumerable.
One of the best 1v1 fights in cinematic history here. We thank you Paris for being such a screw up and allowing this scene to come into fruition.
Psssh. Princess bride
Heh lol
That Paris the coward who couldn't face his own battles like a man? Yes, we thank him
Пересматриваю который раз и не могу понять откуда у них одновременно появились мечи.
@@andrewmetl3445 that’s messed up dude I would never call you something as mean as that.
'"There are no covenants between lions and men." said Achillies to Hector.' Actual quote from the Illiad.
It’s “there can be no covenants between men and lions.” But pacts between lions and men sounds way cooler LOL
@@moe3005 Amen
@@moe3005 translations always imprecise, who knows what blind ol homer was saying lol
The dumb American audience isn't going to know what a "covenant" is, except some basic bro going "Dude, that's what they called the aliens in Halo!"
@@moe3005 You realize the Iliad was not written in English, right?
"Won't let a stone take my glory"😳😳😳 man, the kind of confidence Achilles had
Rightfully so the man has fought hundreds of battles and duels, felled the mightiest champions in over a dozen kingdoms and not a single drop of his blood has ever been spilled, he is literally a semi-invincible demigod.
When you're good and you know it, you can say it.
I'm that good in certain areas, swordfighting is not one of them, and will say it when it's fun.
The son of a goddess has certain advantages
...and yet, he himself robs his glory with how he treats Hector's body...
That's the foolishness of youth...a blindness to how our own actions rob ourselves of glory.
Because he can die only by being hit at his heels. How possible is that though? Every other part of his body is immortal
I love how Achilles stays perfectly on tempo with the soundtrack drums, while Hector is gradually starting to drag his tempo struggling to keep up.
Great fight but when you watch the end of the fight Achilles didn't have a spear in his hand
@@stevewhitaker1705 He takes it from Hector's hands at the last moment at 03:53. So he basically killed him with his own weapon ... talking about disrespect lol, Achilles was a beast!
It appears that Achilles has the better foot work and endurance as Hector eventually fatigues.
@@jeremyridge1332better footwork, better balance, better agility, better fighting experience, better endurance, better form.. achilles was a pro player, that maxed out all of his stats and emblems 😂😂😂 while hektor was good, he can't keep up!
@@deanjelbertaustria6174 achilles is a literal demigod, the fact he was breathing pretty heavily towards the end of the fight shows Hector was indeed a great warrior. No man on earth could fight Achilles and live
Ten seconds into the fight.
Hector's first thought: this guy is definitely NOT like his cousin
Nah, he thought of his own sword and Achilles sword and nothing else.
@@BaconSprintnah, he talked too much before fighting. he forgot his code.
@@GodsOfWar666 Yeah Hector almost looks drunk here in comparison to when he was fighting on the first day
Ten seconds into the fight. Hector... Shit! I ain't coming out of this alive. 😢😢😢
Many people don't get this, Hector is the real hero,he knows he will lose but still faces Achilles
Indeed
There are no heroes at war. Especially a pointless one like this.
@@Harry-ey8tp the war was started by Menelaus. The Greeks are the aggresors. Defenders are always the heroes.
@@selfdescedgelord7699 That would be true, however the Troyans arrogance was their downfall if only they had pay to Paris when he said "Burn it"
Except he's a huge ass coward in the book. Literally runs from Achilles
Eric Bana played a perfect role here. Shout out to the actor, what an amazing performance.
Absolutely
Not often you got the actual actors do the entire fight scene and it also ends up being one of the best shot fight scenes in movie history. Hats off to Pitt and Bana. Absolute legends.
Top notch choreography and expertly shot. Compare this to most modern "shaky-cam" fight scenes; this is light years better. You can clearly see where each fighter is, what they're doing, why they are doing it. There's no ridiculous gymnastics, no stupid jokes or one-liners. As the fight drags on, exhaustion starts to kick in, even for Achilles. The breathing becomes heavier, the moves, especially Hector, become sloppy and less focused. Most modern fight scenes everyone just kinda walks away like it's no big deal. This one actually has weight and feel to it. Beautiful sequence.
I hope you are not trying to mock the Bourne movies with that shaky cam comment lol
well, you should've seen Jackie Chan's movies
And not only all of that, but their swings are all going for the kill. Truly a masterclass of a scene
Light years is a unit of distance, not time.
Back when i used to do kick boxing, just fighting 3 minute rounds was exhausting. That was with 14 oz gloves. I can't imagine fighting (for your life) swinging several pound weapons and shields
Achilles is a demigod and above all loved by the gods, that battle was won by the gods.Hector knew he would die in any case and the gods would never allow Hector to scratch Achilles, but Hector managed to cut the armor, and this shows his great skill
So why the fuck gods allowed paris to kill achilles then ??? Oh let me gues s the gods were sleeping ?
@@ttjoker4 because he was smashing a sweet piece of ass.
Hector is the favorite of Apollo or the son of Apollo depending on which version you read. Apollo kills Achilles by guiding the arrow of Paris, or by becoming Paris depending on version. "The gods" are always fighting with each other and do not make unanimous decisions like all preferring Achilles.
TTJOKER4 Relax lady. It’s a book.
@@jonahmosher3314 get your facts straight girl. It is a myth.
This whole scene is incredibly well done. The subtle music (drumming), the sound of the attacks, blocks, and clangs, the movement is flashy but not to the point of disbelief, and there are stakes for both men since this takes place well into the last bit of act 2. Favorite scene in the movie for me.
I'd say the entire movie is well done... Hollywood won't produce anything like this anymore... it's all fucking comic superhero's... coz we need to match our movies to the degrading infantile culture and decay.
Don't forget, the harmonic resonance of Achille's sword. What a fight sequence!
@@stijnvdv2 Ironically the Iliad was as close as you could get to a superhero story in that time period. Marvel films seem totally overdone at this point though. Superhero film aren't doing so hot at the minute so I can imagine they'll die back again soon.
@@stijnvdv2 If you think there is some vast difference between classical epics and modern super hero stories, you aren't very educated on the matter. The quality of the writing may be better in one versus the other, but the content is very similar.
And where guys like you when they are making bullshit modern movies…gotta wonder huh
Hector is the only man truly respected in the Iliad. Family man, husband, father, soldier, prince, dutiful son. He fights for his country only, not for spoils or glory. Somehow or another "hector" became a pejorative, a synonym for bully. He's the only man in the Epic I have respect for.
He personifies all of the positive aspects of masculinity.
He lost, that's why he became the bad guy, but he was a solid one, the mortal that defied the god's favorite and held his ground.
He was to be the KIng of Troy but ended up dying on the altar of Paris' boner. What a damn shame.
@@JLuisSM195
True, stood to fight a legend like Achilles. Lose or no, he fought well
I respect Achilles wishing to be remembered and always fighting to be the best, but I agree that Hector was a solid man in most iterations of the Trojan War
Paris killed Hector and his entire city the moment he decided to take a married woman with him to Troy
God I hated Paris.
That was an excuse for that war, not the reason.
In real life this was like a years long conflict. It wasn’t some great battle.
@@Knuckles2761 Ever heard the expresion "dont give him an excuse"?
@@gonyx4 it is literally impossible in real politics. Most empires perform some sort of provocation before invasion. Usually killing own noble like he was killed by nearby country. In XX it they explode something on own territory and find proof how it was enemy's doing. Troy was very rich city, worth invading.
Hector is the man! Dude knew he could not defeat Achilles, a demigod, but he went all in nonetheless. Shows true strength, courage, and honor.
More like shows stupidity. If he knows he could not defeat Achilles, why fight him? Honor is for the stupid
He lost dork. The fool who thought he killed Achilles
In the actual story, Hector fought Ajax twice and was almost beaten except for assistance from the gods
In the lore he ran way like a coward and Achilles drag him
@@taafeen5502 no read the Iliad read it in Greek
Underrated performance of the actors of Hector's Wife and Father. Really added a lot of emotion to the fight scene.
Thats peter otool. How did you not know who he is
I do know ;)
@@poorfordtransitowner1627 Peter O'Toole*
And paris
Peter the Great 👍
I just realized this, when Hector says "I've seen this moment in my dreams" and then talks about funeral arrangements, he already knows :(
"If they ever tell my story let them say I walked with giants, men rise and fall like the Winter wheat but these names will never die... Let them say I lived in the time of Hector, tamer of horses...let them say I lived in the time of Achilles..." Odysseus
chills. "men rise and fall like the winter wheat!" since I was a boy, ive felt that!
It is the best line in the movie though, and I think it's the last one.
Man, David Benioff sure can write a decent script when he puts his head into it (Probably because his heart is into it).
Achilles was a demigod who fought a mortal but highly skilled Hector,we must give it to Hector,he showed much bravery and courage in fighting a demigod like Achilles.
he wasn't a demigod in the movie, this is a much more "human" version than the original writing.
His mother was Thetis, a titan, even in the movie.
@@jackkim1997 if this is true, then the director of this movie was super inconsistent with their themes. Achilles himself at times in the film talks himself down as just a very skilled warrior. He describes himself as mortal.
@@justinjohnson3645 Ancient Greek gods were mortals, they only had very very long lives. What I've said is not a contradiction. And Achilles was a demigod. If Achilles was not a demigod in the movie then the movie was not about the Iliad and the war between greeks and troyans.
"demigod" there are no such things as gods, boy
3:34 Love how even though Hector is outmatched, Achilles realizes this is the only warrior who's actually lasted this long with him. Achilles looks at him through the heavy breathing like "just die already".
Yea. In the opening, he asks if there is truly nobody else to fight him and prove a challenge. And in Hector, he finds that challenge. Yes Hector was outclassed but there would never be another to make him have to work hard for a victory in a duel. I love that touch.
Achilles even calls Hector "brother" in the movie when he returns his body to King Prium. In the end, Achilles respected Hector for who he was, and what he represented - country, honor, and family
and in 2:50 you can see that Hector ""almost"" gets achilles. He skratches his chest armor a couple of times.
Achilles was playing with him the entire battle
@@josendAchilles was playing
This duel is incredible because it feels so evenly matched but at the same time it is clear that Achilles is in control. Hector is the only fighter that blocks several of his signature moves. And also there are some moments where if it were anyone else in Achilles's place they would be dead. Like at the point where Hector draws his sword.
Yes definitely. Achilles dodged so many attacks it’s ridiculous how skilled of a fighter he was. You can train a whole lifetime to defeat Achilles and still wouldn’t win lol
Brad Pitts physic and athleticism in this dual is very impressive. From just an athlete’s point of view, i can appreciate the choreography that this is actually him performing these lunges and strikes.
It also helps to sell the fact that Hector is in way over his head.
As a kid I would watch this movie, and the build up to this fight is perfection. I love this movie. Truly one of the best fights in cinema.
Hector is an incredible fighter and even Achilles admitted that. But you can see the difference in skill, Achilles was just really on a league of his own.
He's a demigod. What did you expect? Be no different if Hector fought Hercules.
Achilles fought hundreds of battles and duels and felled the mightiest champions of multiple kingdoms and not a single drop of his blood was ever spilled. He is a literal demigod.
Hector is rational human, living and fighting for the country and family. Honourable, respectful.
Achilles is a savage animal in human form, vengeful, living for himself, and fighting for killing. Respects only his own pack of wolves..
The author of the epics (Homer) described gods and demigods very much as beings of instincts and animalistic passions. And then he contrasts them with humans; if humans succumb to fight with animalistic passions directly, humans will loose. In order to conquer them, humans must use different skills.
Achilles is a demigod.... Obviously he'll have Greater skill than any mortal..
It was unfair to begin with. Achilles is a demigod. The fact that Hector accepted his challenges knowing full Achilles will kill him takes balls of titanium. And he went that long with a demigod.
I'm surprised Andromache didn't throw Paris and Helen off the top of that tower after this.
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When Helen comes over to "comfort" her when she collapses, I was like B*TCH YOU GOT SOME NERVE!!
I like how they show Priam at 1:45 ; you can see how proud he is of Hector
It's little thing's like that in Films that pass me by but now you've said it I can see exactly what you mean. I wish I had more of an eye for this kind of thing.
Priam is a dumbass in this movie. I don't know about the Illad.
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Hector was against all odds when fighting a demigod, but he most certainly didn't make it easy for Achilles, which was pure testament to his fighting skill.
Achilles was the Greatest Warrior, but Hector was the Greatest Hero.
"I won't let a stone take my glory". That hits every time i watch this
No one likes you, Jew
When you know you're a badass haha.
One of the most well choreographed 1to1 combat in a cinema.
Dude lost a good brother over SIMPING, and more.
All facts
Its not Simping when she actually sleeps with you.
@@ElBombastico883OK incel, keep thinking that
Everybody lost everything because he couldn't keep it in his pants, as someone here already mentioned.
Nothing new under the sun
Who was the fight choreographer for this? This is fire! One of the best fight scenes ever
Yeah , this is one of the best one on one fights ever. Looks legit .
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Cool detail in this fight is, you can see Hektor becoming tired as fight went on, and Achillies is basically demigod so he has unnatural stamina. Just before Achillies stabs him with the spear, you can see how tired Hektor was. It's kinda nice detail.
Achilles was pissed because Hector killed his b*tt buddy.
@@perniciouspete4986 bet you wouldn't say that to Achilles's face
Achilles had iron weapons vs bronze
@@abharpI thought Bronze was weaker than Iron, and easier to bend 🤔
Interesting, I'll have to look into that. Then again, Achilles was given special armor by the Gods so, who knows, maybe he really DID just have a different kind of material for his sword than all the others, who knows.
Horrible fight scene I hated what they did. Hector and Achilles are wearing the same armor, fighting on the same field and using the same weapons but they portray it as if Achilles wasn’t wearing his armor the hector would have got him or if hector didn’t trip on that rock he could of gotten Achilles. Achilles managed to avoid the rocks and hector had the same protection and Achilles won because he was the better warrior he had the upper hand the entire fight.
The first time I saw this fight I was like "WTF they just pulled their swords out of thin air!" Now, like 20 years later, I finally see that they had them behind their shields at the beginning!
Usually no man can last even more than a swing against Archilles as shown earlier in the film.
He did great for fighting so long & so many exchanges even made Archilles breathing quite hard there.
Well said. When he returns to his tent afterwards, you see him wash his face and recuperate though he looks visibly tired. He underestimated Hector in my opinion.
@@cassavaman3784 thanks man i totally forgot about this comment 🫡🤣
@@cassavaman3784 He also feels sorry for killing him but why? Hecor thought he killed Achilles but it was his stupid nephew who stole Achilles' armour. Why be angry at Hector? Guy did his duty and fought for his kingdom.
Achilles was playing, he wanted to give honor to Hector anyway but obviously he wasn't good enough
Probably the best duel in cinematic history, perfectly built up and then the execution of the sword and board fighting is fantastic.
The chereographer for Achilles movements did a fantastic job. Achilles' motion was fluid, precise, and definitive. He made hector look like he was just spamming attacks. The level of skill displayed by Achilles was truly leagues above Hector's.
CGI. Ever read Homer?
@@toomanyhobbies2011was not cgi. This movie is from 2004.
hector was just spamming R1 the whole time. Achilles conserved his stamina bar by using special attacks.
Hector was a good soldier but achilles had anger & revenge im his mind! Both were good, epic scene! Achilles one the greatest of all time!
@@TheAdatto 😂
@2:02 I always found fascinating how the design of the greek shield help with versatility by using the spear. in that position you still can protect yourself and at the same time strike with the spear.
Oh yeah, that caught my attention right away, smart design
0:44 I imagine myself doing that scene and sticking that spear in my right foot
xD haha
Or maybe in his Achilles. Movie ended 😂
I sticked a shovel i used to clear off the snow of my grandads grave in my left foot after finishing the job, thankfully my boots were thick enough and i didn't cut off my foot in half
😂That's exactly what I thought😂
@@mrSargi7 Did your Grandad hate snow or something because in all fairness, he doesn't sound like he'd be too bothered about it now?.
I remember the first time I saw this and I didn’t know who to root for. Honestly hoped it ended in a tie or something
Love this scene. Great performance by both actors.
Hector, the chad who rose to the occasion
Achilles: He was the best fighter I ever faced
Hector: *Lasts 4 mins and scratches his armor*
No one else came close, Hector did.
In the book Achiles chases Hector around the city because hector lost his shit the moment he saw Achiles charging at him from across the field LOL!
@@MrMatalo123Ayo, for real 👀 dang, I suppose even Hector had his limits when it came to battle 😅
Awwww, is the Modern "Greek" sad because throughout history the Greeks we're a bunch of other Nations b*tches??
@@MrMatalo123 I have no memories of that. I remember Achilles dragging Hector's body around the city after defeating him but not cowardice from Hector. Are you positive ?
Not hard to believe Brad Pitt was 41 when TROY was filmed ... This scene, with Eric Bana (not Banana) was very well done 🎥
You just couldn't resist huh 😂
Really though, Eric Bana is bananas attractive 😂
No matter how many times I watch this scene, I can't help myself and always hope Hector to win. I know the lore is different. But in this movie, he was the true hero.
Really sad scene first time watched it almost a few drops 🥹
This is completely wild for me. I watch this film every year for the last 15 years and never once I thought about Hector winning but it's cool to comment about the movie and see other people's perspective
Incredible & without the level of CGI we're bombarded with today.
Hector was a good man
But a very wooden actor
In the actual Illyad Achilles comes to challange him and he doesn't want to fight Achilles so Achilles has to chase him around Troy like 5 times.
@@MrConhobar
..that and, in the movie, Troy be acting like their side is righteous.
Troy got massacred over dude that can't fight stealing another dude's wife. The depth it pissed me off that Paris ends up killing Achilles is ridiculous.
But Achilles was better
@@EMirandaTX Just a better fighter given his godly status.
Crazy how much different Paris was to Hector
Hector was groomed to rule after Priam whereas Paris was not. That is why there is such a difference in the sense of duty they have between them.
Paris was a spoiled little brat...
Like the difference between William and harry
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@@andrewvincent7299 I kind of disagree , sure Hector being the elder had that disposition but Paris was also exceptionally lazy and reckless when it came to women .
Look at Patroclus for comparison, he was younger and wasn’t groomed to rule yet he was way more dutiful and actually offered a fight to Hector of all peoples .
i love this fight scene so much. it's perfect. at the start of the fight you can clearly see the two men are virtually equals. as the fight wears on, though, you see luck and fatigue start to kick in. hector is a noble, a man of privilege. Achilles is a man forged entirely by war. he has no noble blood nor claim to a throne. he has his ability to fight. at the end hector loses because hes tired, not because he's a lesser fighter. the illiad describes the fight as a duel of both mortals and gods. when the gods abandon hector and only then can Achilles kill him.
3:40 to 3:46 is excellent footwork and defense by Achilles while being on his back foot going backwards.
How infuriating it must be to swing at someone who moves with such skill and grace and how terrifying it must be to know this same man will plunge his steel in your flesh and butcher your dead body.
I like the way Hector dodges Achilles swift attacks. His reflexes are impressive and I like how he charges towards Achilles at the end.
Paris started the war for Hector, and Patroclus continued the war for Achillies
this comment is underrated , its sick honestly
Well-said
Still one of the best fighting one on one in cinematic history!! Brad Pitt was perfect to this role!
thank all before woke culture, would not be possible today.
Pretty impressive how they're dexterously and lethally handling the spears with one hand! If you've ever held an original one, those are heavy.
Did you ever handle one of those in battle at that time.?
@@williambaglme819 In fact, I was there in that battle particularly
Well, it's the bronze age so weapons are not THAT heavy, but considering that men were considerably small back then, they required good physics, something the greeks excelled into.
This movie has exceptionally good fight choreography and is very underrated. This scene is amazing. Eric Bana was awesome in this. So was Brad Pitt.
Fun fact: Brad Pitt and Eric Bana made a agreement where in every hard blow you should pay $100 and every light blow $50. Pitt ended up paying Bana $750, while Bana didn't owe Pitt anything.
Even funner fact: This fight scene was choreographed by a director of choreography and you are completely full of b.s.
@@Markitup532 Just search it online if you don't believe on me, imbecile.
I've seen the video too.
That doesnt make any sense
So Bana blew Pitt for $750 ?
one of the few instances where the characters taking off their helmets to show their faces for the cameras is well-motivated in-universe.
lol yeah. Great point. MCU basically all about contrived taking off of masks just to show the actors faces.
It's good writing, you'd be surprised when you look up the writer 😂
The most exciting fight I've ever seen ⚔
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The reaction shots of Diane Kruger and Siri Svegler really sell the emotional impact of this fight.
I love the sounddesign of that movie so much. So different from everything else I know from movies. Really metallic, but also when they cross their spears is a real joy to hear
This fight is better than the actual one. I cant imagine achilles chasing hector around the castle
*Benny Hill music playing in the background* lol 😂
If I was hector:
(Achilles shows up alone, calling HECTOR!
Hector: ARCHERS!😂
That wouldn't be right because Paris already broke the rules of a duel. If he did that, his whole family will lose all respect.
@@escamunicha4276 I’m playing but seriously Achilles at the time said he cannot be killed, I would want to test if that’s true😂
2:19 just a savage move 🤘🏼
Hector showed strength, courage and honor. Achilles was blinded by hatred. At the end, they were equal as man, but Hector wasn't a demigod and his mortality got him tired meanwhile Achilles was just getting started, combat was sealed since their birth.
In the movies Achilles is human
@@TheMETALICA40 In the movie his mother is also Thetis, the Titan. He is absolutely a demigod in the film, but it's not a main theme of the script.
@@dioseoloreturns No hes not...He explains that to a kid in the very beggining of the film.
First you never read the Iliad of Homer. Second you're idiot who toot the part of someone without knowing the real story. Aphrodite sait to Hector that he can defeat Achilles after he was running 10 times the walls of Troy to escape from Achilles chasing him. Achilles knew that he will die in Troy just not from whom and when. Achilles was living like was his last moment. Achilles was more than brave and he was not immortal. He was demigod but not immoral. Read Iliad
@@dioseoloreturns Thetis she's not titan but fairy.
I watched this 100 times back in the day … I’d just replay it over and over.
"Yeah, that's right. I'm putting this stone right here"
Achilles the night before the fight
I love the drum beat playing in the back. Each note tells of measurements, cultural story and discipline that go well with accuracy of skill of the duel. Then when the woman’s cry begins- pure sadness, pain and unfairness people had to go through in the ancient world. Amazing scene. Hector looked at death and drew his sword ready to die but before that he would fight. Absolute balls, and Achilles is scary as shit
I mean honestly, Hector broke a pact to save Paris, so Paris should’ve bow and arrowed for his brother too.
seriously. there's no reason not to just shoot achilles down while he's standing there vulnerable since your armies are going to fight to the death anyway.
@@scottmatheson3346 There's this thing called honour, something you probably and most men don't understand in the modern age
This movie is soo underrated it's unbelievable!
"A tragedy that inspired Shakespeare, Akira Kurosawa Japanese Cinema and modern storytelling like Game of Thrones. The legendary meeting of two Ancient warriors, both of them great men. Bounded together as soul brothers in all but name before time began but doomed to be born on earth fighting for different sides of War. Cursed are the friends that fight against each other needlessly."
All of those were made before this movie...
And the actual story of troy wasn't really that directly influental to any of the works named...
@@sudanemamimikiki1527 actually I think you’ll find it was one of the most influential pieces of writing ever
Love how Hector is like: *"Fuck it! I'm gonna lose anyway so let's play dirty!"* and grabs the broken spear!
Achilles still had no fear, walked right up to him took the spear and then the final blow with the sword
I simply love this fight scene. My only criticism is: I doubt the Greeks would not have followed Achilles to see what he intended to do.
They probably thought he was gonna go to the beach and reenact that one meme... You know the one 😂
Hector wasn't no pushover, the ONLY thing that got him was his fear, he paused and got gripped with fear for a slight second, and as they say, on the battlefield, that's eternity
I’d say it was a bit more than that. Maybe we can attribute his fear to his overall performance, but everything about the depiction of this fight showed an Achilles with the dominant control of the situation. Hector was burning through his energy a lot faster just trying to hold on while Achilles maintained his control, form and pace throughout. Barring an error on Achilles’ part, it was only a matter of time till Hector had nothing left.
Still a hell of a fight.
@@blakebowles7818 nah man, I have had to thumbs down that shit.. y'all always putting extra in a fight, it's a movie, I enjoyed it for what it was, not that extra passionate tiger bs, nah u see the truth is these ppl used shady means to win, and now days if u use a poison dart instead of ur sword, it's cowardly... 😂 U won't understand what I'm sayin so lets jus agree to disagree, I'm not the UA-camr arguing type.. I stand by my fuckin words lol
@@duaneninjaray You sound like a caveman
Still one of the best fights in a movie I ever seen.
@3:33 I like how it shows Achilles breathing hard - it represents his first time being challenged and facing a legit contender in Hector
Achilles got lucky that Hector didn't activated his Hulk mode.
Greatest fight scenes in cinema history. It feels like watching real hecktor vs Achilles from ancient era
One of my favourite things about this fight is that it highlights something the film has been, somewhat, subtly showing off throughout it's run time; that Achilles is on a completely different level to anyone else.
All through the film we see Achilles, almost involuntarily, maybe even subconsciously, making movements with his body that either move him out of harms way, or take a blow on his shield or an armoured part of his body. Then the film gives us this duel. The two greatest warriors from either side facing off against each other, and it become clear very quickly that Hektor doesn't stand a chance. He throws everything he's got at Achilles and we see, more clearly, what the film has been showing us about the way Achilles fights, we see those inhuman movements that keep him from harm (one of the more noticeable ones is at 3:32, where it almost looks like his leg is pulled out of the way by some unseen force), and we see the way Achilles needlessly flourishes almost every blow because he knows he can't be harmed.
But, despite all this, the film does Hektor a service that the original poem didn't. It, not only, let's Hektor have a fight with Achilles (in the poem he runs away until Achilles manages to catch him), but it lets him actually land a blow that gives Achilles a moment of pause.
Wolfgang was a genius directing this film, one of the greatest war movie ever
cause of this movie Hector became my personal favorite of historic warriors!
I remember the interviews with Brad Pitt and Eric Bana after this scene was shot. They revealed that they had quietly agreed to go all-out in this fight scene, risking injury to give it all teh realism they could. Those blows against one another were full-force
Awesome fight to watch. I remember there was a meme of a guy hoping Jon Snow vs. The Night King would be this good.
Agreed, the producers could've have at least given us a "Trial By Combat" between Jon Snow and Grey Worm🤷💯
This quality.. it's.. amazing..
The fact he barely breaks a sweat and dominates the majority of the fight against "the best he fought" Hector, considered the best warrior in the world by those unaware of Achilles, shows just the elite level Brad Pitts Achilles is at..
From Illad Achilles was around 32 years old and Hector being 43 roughly, Hector was a great man
I love how in the moments before the fight, Eric Bana walks though and pretty much says goodbye to eveyone! "And don't forget to water my Azaleas now!" Hahahhahahha!
Despite anything else, I actually think even with Achilles bluster at Hector, he respected him deep down. Hector fought with honor. Achilles soiled his name when he dragged Hector's body and paraded it. It was the move of a coward, and dishonored himself as a whole as Achilles was a Myrmidon and the demigod son of Peleus King of Myrmidon and Thetis the Nereid.
How has there not been a better 1v1 fight scene with a swords after so many years??
Hector and his wife - the only two likeable charakters here...
And Achilles. Always a pleasure watching him fight. 😂
Priamus and Achilles as well he's just grieving because of his cousin
The kings a good dude
Eveeyone is talking about hector and what not but what about the dude that got killed with flying arrows when he saw the many ships coming towards trojan unexpectedly he was kool too
The moment at 3:40 after cutting Achilles armor, fighting with a demigod for three minutes straight. He picked up his broken spear and fights like hell again, and you see in Achilles face that this is the greatest man he's ever fought. Without the God's he would have lost.
Achilles would never acknowledge such a thing but you see it in his expression in that moment.
Hector was the real hero in this movie,fought for honor and love to which he died at the hands of someone he knew he could never defeat portraying how brave and courageous he also was 💪🏻✌️
Funny how much of a coward he is in the book.
I really enjoyed this cut scene of Troy. Hector was a great leader and brother, only if hus brother wasn't such a... well, little immature fool. But then he still fought to protect him and his mistress.
That aside, i thoroughly enjoyed how well executed the beginning and the transition between each character. Also, the way Achilles style and his hamdle of the spear to measure distance and to get a good read on his opponant . Then after switching to his sword which i gotta say, "the way he utilized and incorporated his strikes like a scorpions stinger a type of extension to get close to his opponent. But how he used his sword kind of makes me wonder how the Achilles fought... mustve been a spectacle to watch .
Alot of people dont know achilles placed that stone there the night before
Quite underestimated comment here! 😁
lmao
He also made sure Hector was facing the sun during their fight
@@christophervillanueva9257 Considering Apollon, the sun god, was supposed to favor Hector in this fight, this sounds all the more ironic! 😁
I remember watching this at the movie theater when it first came out. Every time the swords and shields made contact it felt like it rocked the whole theater. I heard somewhere that this was filmed in middle of summer during the blazing heat and that Brad Pitt needed and oxygen mask because he smoked a lot of cigarettes.
I was 20 when I first watched this. I was in Mexicali. I’m 39 now and it makes way more sense. The amount of prince warriors that went down in front of their father, general, and all their people is innumerable.
mexicali suuuuucks.
U was 20 at the time, did you have a hard on foe Helen too hahah
Probably the first fight ever where I didn't want either side to win or lose.
Always had mad respect for Hector
Throughout this entire movie, Peter O'Toole looks like he just ate some bad fish.
Achilles at 2:23 is just a perfect shot. A war machine and just laser focused on the goal.
And now his name is known for weakness. That your Achilles heel homie. Props to Hector. 😂
So much death, suffering and destruction because of one person's inability to control the horny.
But dude, she's really hot...
No it's all because of the hoooooooo it's always the hoooooo hahaha
@@oraleholmes1263 hooooooo = coochie?