Reload is the better version to play on merit (not personal preference as many can have their own opinion) for the majority of people as it’s widely available on all consoles and even if it costs a bit buy, people who enjoy p3 and its characters will make it worth it to them as a individual as personal preference doesn’t exist for many of them even with the cutscenes being different most don’t really care nor notice a lot of the time they just enjoy the game. In terms of many aspects recommending FES to anyone who is on the more modern side of the persona series so 98% of them, would find it aggravating and harsh with most of them seeing reloads gameplay changes as their more desired version especially with the graphical elements and better voice acting quality as many don’t like to go back to ps2 games with slow ui and choppy voice acting.
Thank you so much for the careful review. I can't wait to se you cover the Dragon Quest games. I really hope you can cover every game like you did for Final Fantasy.
That might be a bit of a tall order, given that unlike Final Fantasy, there's seemingly no PC or modern console ports of Dragon Quest 4-9. It's possible that 4-7 might be earmarked for the HD-2D treatment, but that would likely be a couple years off. 8 is a 3D game which I hope to see ported in a manner similar to Minstrel Song someday. And 9 is also 3D, but given it being last and designed for DS, it would likely be a long time before we see 9 if at all.
@@Nathaniel_E_Dearing Right, I meant it as an "eventual" process. The Final Fantasy games weren't covered back to back or even in order so I'm fine with waiting. He already covered DQ11. I already know about the series pretty extensively, but I like hearing the in-depth review and frequently point out the channel to those looking for options.
@@jikmjuhn All the same, I do hope to see the rest of the Dragon Quest series on Switch eventually. Given how popular it is in Japan, you would think that we would have at least gotten the mobile versions of them years ago. But instead, it was just the first 3, and the first 3 again years later. Here's hoping for an announcement soon, as 4, 6, and 7 do have anniversaries next year. Also: wasn't Chrono Trigger 1995? because that could mean we finally see it return next year as well.
Here's the biggest change - The Answer FES is INCLUDED in the FES P3. DLC Answer has to be bought separately, even for P3R Digital Deluxe owner. Screw Altus and their greedy practices.
@@Parth1713 yeah I can understand the answer being a dlc but since the base game was already 70 dollars and then you can't just buy the answer you have to get the expansion pass for another 35 dollars it's ridiculous how much it costs
To be fair, the answer wasn't originally included on the PS2 either and was sold as an expansion in Japan. Overseas you had to rebuy the entire game to get the extension. This is literally mentioned at the start of the video. I also hate Atlus dlc practices though, but we have to keep with the facts.
The Answer wasn't included on PS2 either until FES. In Japan it released as a standalone expansion exactly like this did, basically as an add-on disc for P3 vanilla. Western players had to buy the whole game again for this content
Having beaten the PS2 version of The Answer, I recommend just watching the cutscenes on UA-cam. Don't buy the first release of any Atlus game or pay full price for one. Just emulate the original.
18:50 An "answer" for which to recommend? Hmm... It would be cool to get a more in-depth look at Reload's writing changes both in Reload and specific to the localization as a separate video, but I get these are pretty time consuming to make.
@@Suprapika basically, the answer is trying to show how people process grief, but sometimes people don’t process it in the best way and might act irrationally because of it. There are debates on how characters were written because of this.
@@pokestar9994 The thing is the English localization did exaggerate a lot. There are some changes that aren't due to the localization since the Japanese script itself changed, but the localized version of OG P3's Yukari, Junpei, and even to some extent Akihiko are pretty different than what was in the Japanese script. For example, people got mad when Akihiko's famous AOA line got changed, but that line was always a fabrication of the PS2 localization. The Reload version of that line is the correct one. Which then gets into a muddier conversation about localization because people genuinely liked that fabrication. Same for lines like "Stupei Ace Defective".
Feels like if you played a version with Episode Aigis | The Answer then you should probably just stick with that same version. I managed to beat the Reload version a few weeks ago and enjoyed it well enough, but... man, this play through has at least shown me that I was right in liking 4 and 5 more than 3 after all these years (I never even completed the base game for 3 before Reload). It wasn't bad, but it wasn't as satisfying of an experience + ending.
9:56 talking about the anime cutscene, do you feel that the animation quality of EP Aigis Reload felt worse compared to the base game (Reload) and EP Aigis Reload opening? Idk but I somehow see some lazy shots, etc.
Thank you for pointing out that Reload localization is actually better. There are many confused "translators" who have spread a lot of misinformation. That was the thing I noticed too when playing Reload compared to FES is that the Reload localization is way more accurate to the Japanese script than the FES localization. Reload's version of The Answer is a re-written script in Japanese, but the localization is pretty accurate. As for the changes, I think one they took a different direction to focus more on the party's grief, and I think probably they would have ran into the issue with that one scene because of the CERO system rating changes. Persona 3 FES was rated CERO B, Persona 3 Reload was rated CERO C. That means even with the changes hey made, they had to bump up the rating and they probably didn't want to bump it up further. The rating system in Japan and the West is pretty different and generally it seems that Japanese publishers don't care if a game gets an M rating in the West, but they do care if they have to bump up the rating in Japan. Also I think AI control in FES is terrible. It's completely counter intuitive to how the battle system works because you want to manipulate Down status in your favor, but you can't do that if you can't control when enemies recover from Down. FES's battle system IMO makes way more sense on solo MC runs.
That last bit, it's mostly going to boil down to turn orders. Harder to take into account but is possible even in more casual runs. It sure can work but it won't be fun to take into account for many. Metis being a wind/ice mage is definitely intended because those two being on one member allows you to do some management into intentionally attacking down'd opponents and knocking then down again. Something along those lines. Personally I prefer direct commands but for the most part, the AI will be more than sufficient to get through the game. The degree of enjoyability and investment is just going to differ per person.
The video literally did state that Reload's localization is better in *minor* ways. It's not "way more accurate" in most cases like you said. Reload's localization is in fact mostly the same as Portable's localization, which is in itself nearly identical to FES's localization. Changes like more proper usage of last names and honorifics are good obviously, but it doesn't take away from how the story and character writing are conveyed, which are already pretty solid in the original games. So honestly, saying it's "way more accurate" almost feels like misinformation in itself.
On a completely different note: Could you do something for Tomb Raider someday? I'm curious how the comparison of the first 3 goes when the Wii version is added to the equation. Plus, there's the port of 4-6 on the way, so...
I haven't gotten Episode Aigis simply because of the price point and the decision to screw over customers. I'm more than glad to hear its very much the same. Makes it much easier to pass on it entirely.
I can't believe they had the guts to create and add the worst ATLUS superboss design ever on this. I'm impressed. Hopefully that doesn't happen ever again.
The story of episode Aigis has never been the problem, it is not a perfect story it is not as good as the third semester of P5 royal but it was not bad. The real problem was the gameplay and difficulty, the non controllable party members and other game machanics were not made with the New difficulty in mind and the fact that there was no compendium made it even worse
You could change the title to "Which Version of Episode Aigis (The Answer) Should You Play? - Here Is the Answer"
Atlus were having a field day when they were making up these names 😂
This is some evangelion level writing (not)
I live for these videos, really appreciate the time you take to make these.
Reload is the better version to play on merit (not personal preference as many can have their own opinion) for the majority of people as it’s widely available on all consoles and even if it costs a bit buy, people who enjoy p3 and its characters will make it worth it to them as a individual as personal preference doesn’t exist for many of them even with the cutscenes being different most don’t really care nor notice a lot of the time they just enjoy the game. In terms of many aspects recommending FES to anyone who is on the more modern side of the persona series so 98% of them, would find it aggravating and harsh with most of them seeing reloads gameplay changes as their more desired version especially with the graphical elements and better voice acting quality as many don’t like to go back to ps2 games with slow ui and choppy voice acting.
Thank you so much for the careful review. I can't wait to se you cover the Dragon Quest games. I really hope you can cover every game like you did for Final Fantasy.
That might be a bit of a tall order, given that unlike Final Fantasy, there's seemingly no PC or modern console ports of Dragon Quest 4-9. It's possible that 4-7 might be earmarked for the HD-2D treatment, but that would likely be a couple years off. 8 is a 3D game which I hope to see ported in a manner similar to Minstrel Song someday. And 9 is also 3D, but given it being last and designed for DS, it would likely be a long time before we see 9 if at all.
@@Nathaniel_E_Dearing Right, I meant it as an "eventual" process. The Final Fantasy games weren't covered back to back or even in order so I'm fine with waiting. He already covered DQ11. I already know about the series pretty extensively, but I like hearing the in-depth review and frequently point out the channel to those looking for options.
@@jikmjuhn All the same, I do hope to see the rest of the Dragon Quest series on Switch eventually. Given how popular it is in Japan, you would think that we would have at least gotten the mobile versions of them years ago. But instead, it was just the first 3, and the first 3 again years later. Here's hoping for an announcement soon, as 4, 6, and 7 do have anniversaries next year. Also: wasn't Chrono Trigger 1995? because that could mean we finally see it return next year as well.
Here's the biggest change - The Answer FES is INCLUDED in the FES P3. DLC Answer has to be bought separately, even for P3R Digital Deluxe owner. Screw Altus and their greedy practices.
@@Parth1713 yeah I can understand the answer being a dlc but since the base game was already 70 dollars and then you can't just buy the answer you have to get the expansion pass for another 35 dollars it's ridiculous how much it costs
To be fair, the answer wasn't originally included on the PS2 either and was sold as an expansion in Japan. Overseas you had to rebuy the entire game to get the extension. This is literally mentioned at the start of the video. I also hate Atlus dlc practices though, but we have to keep with the facts.
The Answer wasn't included on PS2 either until FES. In Japan it released as a standalone expansion exactly like this did, basically as an add-on disc for P3 vanilla. Western players had to buy the whole game again for this content
@@icedcapplord710 bro I already said that
You said it yourself dumbass, it was included in FES, not Persona 3
Having beaten the PS2 version of The Answer, I recommend just watching the cutscenes on UA-cam. Don't buy the first release of any Atlus game or pay full price for one. Just emulate the original.
18:50 An "answer" for which to recommend? Hmm...
It would be cool to get a more in-depth look at Reload's writing changes both in Reload and specific to the localization as a separate video, but I get these are pretty time consuming to make.
I don't know anything about the "controversy" in The Answer, is it easy enough to look up? This video has me curious.
The controversy is to do with the story and how the characters act. It’s hard to go into without spoilers.
@@pokestar9994 I see, I guess I'll just have to find out the long way, then.
@@Suprapika basically, the answer is trying to show how people process grief, but sometimes people don’t process it in the best way and might act irrationally because of it. There are debates on how characters were written because of this.
@@pokestar9994 The thing is the English localization did exaggerate a lot. There are some changes that aren't due to the localization since the Japanese script itself changed, but the localized version of OG P3's Yukari, Junpei, and even to some extent Akihiko are pretty different than what was in the Japanese script. For example, people got mad when Akihiko's famous AOA line got changed, but that line was always a fabrication of the PS2 localization. The Reload version of that line is the correct one. Which then gets into a muddier conversation about localization because people genuinely liked that fabrication. Same for lines like "Stupei Ace Defective".
Feels like if you played a version with Episode Aigis | The Answer then you should probably just stick with that same version.
I managed to beat the Reload version a few weeks ago and enjoyed it well enough, but... man, this play through has at least shown me that I was right in liking 4 and 5 more than 3 after all these years (I never even completed the base game for 3 before Reload). It wasn't bad, but it wasn't as satisfying of an experience + ending.
9:56 talking about the anime cutscene, do you feel that the animation quality of EP Aigis Reload felt worse compared to the base game (Reload) and EP Aigis Reload opening? Idk but I somehow see some lazy shots, etc.
Thank you for pointing out that Reload localization is actually better. There are many confused "translators" who have spread a lot of misinformation. That was the thing I noticed too when playing Reload compared to FES is that the Reload localization is way more accurate to the Japanese script than the FES localization. Reload's version of The Answer is a re-written script in Japanese, but the localization is pretty accurate. As for the changes, I think one they took a different direction to focus more on the party's grief, and I think probably they would have ran into the issue with that one scene because of the CERO system rating changes. Persona 3 FES was rated CERO B, Persona 3 Reload was rated CERO C. That means even with the changes hey made, they had to bump up the rating and they probably didn't want to bump it up further. The rating system in Japan and the West is pretty different and generally it seems that Japanese publishers don't care if a game gets an M rating in the West, but they do care if they have to bump up the rating in Japan.
Also I think AI control in FES is terrible. It's completely counter intuitive to how the battle system works because you want to manipulate Down status in your favor, but you can't do that if you can't control when enemies recover from Down. FES's battle system IMO makes way more sense on solo MC runs.
That last bit, it's mostly going to boil down to turn orders. Harder to take into account but is possible even in more casual runs. It sure can work but it won't be fun to take into account for many. Metis being a wind/ice mage is definitely intended because those two being on one member allows you to do some management into intentionally attacking down'd opponents and knocking then down again. Something along those lines.
Personally I prefer direct commands but for the most part, the AI will be more than sufficient to get through the game. The degree of enjoyability and investment is just going to differ per person.
The video literally did state that Reload's localization is better in *minor* ways. It's not "way more accurate" in most cases like you said. Reload's localization is in fact mostly the same as Portable's localization, which is in itself nearly identical to FES's localization.
Changes like more proper usage of last names and honorifics are good obviously, but it doesn't take away from how the story and character writing are conveyed, which are already pretty solid in the original games. So honestly, saying it's "way more accurate" almost feels like misinformation in itself.
On a completely different note: Could you do something for Tomb Raider someday? I'm curious how the comparison of the first 3 goes when the Wii version is added to the equation. Plus, there's the port of 4-6 on the way, so...
I haven't gotten Episode Aigis simply because of the price point and the decision to screw over customers. I'm more than glad to hear its very much the same. Makes it much easier to pass on it entirely.
I think both versions are good in they're own ways one isn't better than the other they're just different
I can't believe they had the guts to create and add the worst ATLUS superboss design ever on this. I'm impressed.
Hopefully that doesn't happen ever again.
did they change the ending? Im still mad about door-kun
No
@@TheJigsawKiller So now they're charging you money to make the story worse.
@@Agent789_0 Worse how?
Could you cover Persona 5 x ?
I barely know anything about it, only saw the trailer once
It's a crappy gacha mobile game, not worth the time
@@TheNameIsSR 😔 oh
@@SpJrD yeah I'm disappointed too, but it is what it is. And what it is, is a cash grab
The story of episode Aigis has never been the problem, it is not a perfect story it is not as good as the third semester of P5 royal but it was not bad. The real problem was the gameplay and difficulty, the non controllable party members and other game machanics were not made with the New difficulty in mind and the fact that there was no compendium made it even worse
Neither ✌️
Aigis? No. WEgis. 💙
Stop saying fez
That's how you pronounce it, FES is short for "Festival"