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Wasn't big and strong as Foreman, wasn't natural as Ali, but he had the drive, fire in the belly and a heart of a lion. As Big George said: "They stopped the fight, but they didn't stop Joe Frazier - I knocked that man down 6 times, and he was still looking for me. He was the bravest fighter I've ever seen". Rest in peace smokin' Joe, You were the real people's champ.
I met Joe Frazier 3 months before he passed away.. I was stationed at Nellis AFB and just happened to be working on a Saturday. My retirement ceremony was coming up soon so I went to the ticketing agency on base to price tickets for my family.. As I walked into the building in uniform I recognized the Champ sitting at a table signing autographs. I immediately payed my respects to the Champ.. Such a beautiful person, friendly, and had a big hearty laugh. I called my Mentor back at my hangar.. I was so siked up.. Chief you gotta come over her right NOW!!! We took pics with the Champ and he signed my boxing gloves that I had been working out with in my Muay Thai class. Beautiful memory with class act Champion.. Smokin Joe Frazier.. Rest Peacefully Champ.. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
You were privileged Mike. As a nine-year-old in Ireland I saw this fight - to my old man's credit he let me stay up late to watch it. Loved Joe Frazier. A real honest to God champion with no airs or graces.
@@thinkofitthisway7804 Bro.. it was a Blessing and Honor to meet the Champ.. I normally didn't work on weekends but this was one of weekends whereas we had to play a supporting role for fighter pilots. To walk into that building and see him sitting there at a table.. 😳😳 I'm STILL in awe!!! 💯
@@copperfish543 Meeting the Champ with my Mentor Chief Marion right there was an incredible experience. As excited and humbled as we were to meet him, he was the same way with us. The Champ was a huge supporter of the military and was grateful that we protected our country as well as him and his family. His laugh was so infectious!! Incredible man, courageous spirit, and a absolute vicious left hook in the ring! 💯💪🏾🥊 Rest in Power Champ 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@Manish Mims I can see the Champ doin that, he was rather unique!! 😁 I was stationed in Germany for 6 years and I would see people using Mayo on fries instead of ketchup. I tried it after two years.. it was actually not bad... Never would it replace ketchup tho! 🤣😂
@@texasblackchip-gregmoore9871 preach. Smokin Joe didn't get nearly the love or respect he deserved. Clubber Lang from Rocky 3 reminded me of a really angry Joe Frazier.
its his trade mark althoug it was a strange technique because he finish the punch off balance, it was a legendary hook but far from perfect. in fact i think it was a great form for him but no one else. he also have a great waist movement that help him a lot after the left hook when he miss, i mean he punch and immediatly goes down and swing his full body in a circle, that amazing. and he do it so well that sometimes he K.O. someone and didnt know because he was doing that elusive movement.
i will never forget when joe was asked if he was willing to die and go out for the 15th round in the 3rd ali fight and he said yes with no hesitiation. it is amazing the mindset they develop rising to that level of athlete.
@@realchristianmusicchannele9532 Nope. And he would have incurred untold damage to his health. Both his eyes were closing and Ali was teeing off on them with his right hands on Frazier's face trying to close those eyes with those rights leads. Frazier's trainer did the right thing.
He gets up like it was a lucky shot to the chin in the early rounds. So unbelievably impressive. As more of a Frazier fan than an ali fan that first fight is my favorite obviously
Yeah both of them beat up on each other really good in that fight, but that knockdown punch probably was no different than the other left hooks throughout the fight, it just happened to catch Ali moving backwards and Ali went down but obviously not extremely hurt because he got right up and fought okay for the rest of the round, but yeah I scored the fight for Frazier the same way as the ref did 8-6-1. No telling how the fight would have went if it was both of them in their prime. I mean yeah this was Frasier's prime but Ali's prime little more like it was in the 60s when he had his full speed and reflexes and didn't get hit hardly at all. I honestly don't think he would have got hit with even half those left hooks
Not only that Frazier beat on him the rest of the round. He lands another lefthook that whip Ali's head up in the air. I thought Ali's head would go into orbit.
Ali did dirty to liston and Frazier. Fixed or humiliated and bullied the whole family using his fame. Dirty one. Never be proud of him if you like goodness.
Rocky wasn't completely based on Joe it was predominantly based on Chuck Wepner who fought Ali and though being completely out matched skill wise managed to knock Ali down. The only thing stallone stole from Joe was mainly being from Philly and probably some training bits. If you look up Wepner he was most of character and plot. Stallone interviewed lots of pro boxers while researching the script and he borrowed bits off lots of fighters but most assume he is based on Joe because of it being based in Philly
@@seaniekay we know the history of the movie. That's not the point. The point is racist white folks put up a statue of a fictional character & never thought to honor the real heavyweight champion Smokin' Joe. It took BHop to get Frazier statue made & placed at the Philly Sports Complex.
This generation of fighters were made of different stuff, literally nothing short of death could stop them! That hook that frazier put ali down with, would've knocked a bull out! True gladiators.
Fighters were getting paid scraps compared to today's fighters. 1 loss to a contender would send you down a long way. Basically these guys were fighting for their livelihood
@@ascendantking2178 Considering that they clearly deserved more pay than many of today's fighters it's just stupid right? Some of these today would go some of the fight and then from 1 punch will fall down and that be it. These old era footages of boxing seem like boxers aim to win or die trying.
Joe Frazier - An incredible fighter with the meanest left hook in the history of the sport, an amazing man who dedicated his entire life to become a champion.
🥊Frazier hurts every time he thinks of Ali. His hostility still rages within. It's a consuming, ugly bitterness he has carried for decades, the result of the hurtful things Ali has said. He insulted his intelligence, his character and his lack of black pride. Ali called Frazier ugly and ignorant and, most disturbingly, an Uncle Tom. Frazier, the son of South Carolina sharecroppers, was deeply wounded by Ali's ridicule which was accepted as socio-political fact and isolated Frazier from the black community. Ali somehow succeeded in making a fight between two African - American men a matter of black and white. Throughout the black community, he was an object of derision and scorn because of the way Ali treated him, it was cruel. The hatred grew intensely within Frazier. He was unable to compete with Ali's eloquence, but he had a left hook that could do the talking for him. Frazier, with loating in his heart and thunder in his Everlast gloves, punished Ali for the things he said. Notice after Ali vs Frazier 1 fight announcers said Frazier was feeling sic in his corner and he just wanted to go back to dressing room. That's because Joe couldn't slow his heart and nervous system back down to a resting state. Joe already had history of high blood pressure and diabetes, he spent nearly two weeks in the hospital for exhaustion, blood pressure, diabetes and kidney problems.. BUT BUT when he was in his 40s Joe was out dancing and singing in the clubs while Ali couldn't talk and his tremors were getting worse. Younger folks haven't a clue what Ali actually did to Joe, let me explain by saying it's exactly like today's Hollywood liberal cancel culture. Frazier hated that Louisville Lip and before fight he got on his knees and prayed to God that he could make Ali perish. Personally i have to admit, everytime Frazier smacked Ali i cheered, We All Cheered, MILLIONS CHEERED
It's called promotion, and mental war games. He made fun of Liston (big ugly bear), Foreman (Mummy with no boxing ability) etc... He even wanted Chuck Wepner to call him the N word on national television to sell the fight better. It just business, and Frazier didn't understand that. In regards to making fun of Ali and claim Frazier had it better. He was living in his gym and near broke towards the end. Ali may have not been all there mentally and physically, but is praised as the greatest all over the world. Sometimes great sacrifice in life, comes at a price. Ali was special, and helped the sport more than any other fighter in history.
🌐 When a simple man is put on tv most of his lifetime and praised by so many you should ask yourself, what is the purpose behind this demigod? The social engineering around Ali was incredible. The media hype built him up so audience viewers became entranced hypnotized and mesmerized from the entertainment and viewed his fights as iconic historic events even when he was losing and being rocked senseless. Ali was chosen by the system and turned into a left wing political pawn, that's why he has an $85 million dollar museum in Louisville KY. Where is Louis Marciano Frazier and Holmes museums? At least Joe Louis was buried in Arlington National Cemetery with full military honors unlike Clay who dodged. Elijah Mahomud convinced Clay to dodge cause he was their meal ticket, so Clay faked being Minister so he could dodge Nam while preaching cancel culture towards the white man who he called "Devil's." But it all backfired. He thought he was going to be gifted special exemption cause he was champ, Nope. 51,038 white soldiers vs 7,243 black soldiers were killed during Vietnam war so don't complain about racial inequality. Jackie Robinson said, "Ali's stand was hurting his race who were, unlike him, fighting in Vietnam. The tragedy to me is, Cassius has made millions of dollars off the American public, and now he's not willing to show his appreciation to a country that's giving him, in my view, a fantastic opportunity." At that time being drafted was the Law. When Clay refused induction someone had to take his place. What if that someone was You? I served in Nam shoulder to shoulder with black men who were "The Greatest" authentic heroes of America, not that privileged two-faced bigoted racist who turned his back to his own people once his boxing license was reinstated. The lottery chose me right outta highschool and my parents didn't have money to send me to Canada or bribe a doctor for medical excuse. Blame the politicians and military industrial complex, not the young innocent teenage kids who were family, friends and neighbors. Good men who did their best in a bad situation who were sent there to fight for the ideal of freedom of people everywhere. Dad told me, "son, it's the's law, go fight hard, and represent your country well." So i fought hard, and represented my flag proudly. What would You have done? Donald J. T. avoided Nam and the world hates him, Cassius Clay resists and becomes a famous civil rights activist and legendary antiwar hero. Today BLM is painted on every basketball court and I'm supposed too become less white and reprogrammed, something is twisted. Ali's legend is far greater than the actual reality of his career lik' gettin rocked by 185 lb fighters and outscoring flat-footed sluggers. I stepped through those ropes 24 times and it's not that difficult after first several fights. What's difficult is working a common job 10 hours a day for 50 years to pay mortgage and put food on the table for your children.
Frazier was special, and he-whooped his arse. Made him wear-pampers and be spoon-fed before he was 50. In the end Joe wanted to live in his gym where it was comfortable. And i assure-ya he always had 500 dollars in-pocket. Yes Ali is known around the globe only because his generation is still alive. Give it another another generation and all his media-hype will all but disappear!!! Except for his inner-circle of folk who'll attempt in vain,, to-turn him into false prophet-demigod
Ali closed the show in the 3rd fight, made Frazier quit in his corner. In regards to your opinion on the Vietnam war. Ali made the right decision and took a stand for what he believed in. Unlike in WW2, where we were attacked. The Vietnamese did nothing to us, and we had no business being there. It's not our responsibility to risk our lives for an unworthy cause. In the end, the war was proven to be a mistake by America and Ali was cast back in the spotlight once again. Ali, like Mike Tyson. Are iconic sports figures in the US, that brought popularity and attention to our great sport. I'm too young to of had the privilege of watching Ali, but thankfully I was able to watch Tyson before he retired.
To me, Joe Frazier was the embodiment of the American Dream. Came from abject poverty, faced a ton of hardship and adversity early in his life, but thru his sheer power of will and belief in himself, he became a legend. And what's more, thru it all, the people who knew him describe him as a good man who was kind, generous, & loyal. There will never be another Joe Frazier. Such a shame the city of Philadelphia did him so dirty in the end. That man is a real American sports hero.
Joe Frazier was so fucking great at boxing he burned his body out just so that he could teach a lesson to Ali. It wasn't about revenge. It was about sportsmanship. Because of that, I hold it in my heart he is the best boxer in the heavyweight division.
American dream? What for an African American 🤔 I don't think so.... when he was champ he was treated by the police the same as any African American I those days...
Smokin Joe didn't knock his opponents out in the early rounds, but he'll beat the ever living shit out of his foes till his last breath.. plus he's a one tough son of gun and a heart of a Lion, eye of the Tiger and a bite of a Jaguar.. RIP CHAMP Smokin Joe
His opponents were also a lot tougher, it’s not that he couldn’t knock them out, it shows how much better the opponents were. They could take big punches and were also good enough to move and dish out their own punishment.
@@82dupontbut every bodyshots were dealing damages to his opponents resulting in wearing out their breathe and endurance.. more like the bodyshots were intentional to punish them
There’s not a man that’s ever stepped into a boxing ring that I respect more than Joe Frazier. What a heart of a lion he had. The guy just WOULD NOT quit. And has as much class as anyone I’ve seen. What a man.
Frazier was before my time but I love watching his highlights because he was a monster. He was a terminator machine that always came forward. He didn’t have reverse in his transmission. Joe was also a great human being. He paid Ali’s bills and helped him financially. It’s a shame the way Ali disrespected him.
That's a lie. Joe didn't pay Ali's bills. It was said that he either loaned or gave Ali money on a couple of occasions, but to say he financially carried Ali is a gross exaggeration.
@@lwmson really? and you KNOW this how? you are Ali's CFO?? Given how kind Joe is and how he talked to the president to get Ali re-instated and the fact that this narrator stated it as such, I tend to think it is true. However, in Ali's mind (as the narrator stated) he was merely promoting the fight....
@@colin-manyeates-clan5221 And are you Frazier's CFO? No one really knows for sure how much money Joe lent/gave to Ali, but I seriously doubt that he was financially supporting Ali's during his exile. For one, Joe wasn't rich at that time and it's hard to imagine anyone being that generous. I freely admit that I don't know exactly how much money he gave to Ali and I doubt if anyone truly does. But I do know that Joe's efforts to facilitate Ali's return to the ring by lobbying Nixon and Congress were not out of generosity or the kindness of his heart. Joe knew that the bout between him and Ali would be the biggest gate in history as it would be the first time that two undefeated heavyweight champs squared off in the ring. That said, Joe knew it would result in a highly lucrative payday for him, the likes of which he couldn't make with any other fighter. He was in this for his own personal gain.
My grandfather always said Ali’s greatness and hype always overshadowed how good Joe was. He said if Frazier was born in a different time he would have gotten the love and appreciation he deserved- this from a man who watched, Sugar Ray Robinson in his prime👊🏿
I'm 66 and I can remember watching all these great fighters with my dad. So many of them in black and white. I can remember listening to fights on the radio too. Thanks a million to the people responsible for this great video. This brought back so many wonderful memories. You have a new subscriber.
I thought Joe was the coolest man alive when I was young. He is by far my most heart felt athlete of all time, there's not even a close second. I miss Joe.
I started practicing my left hook because of legendary boxers like Joe, and I'm right handed. I think my left hook is stronger than my right now because of it
Smoke was one of the all time greats. His was the greatest left hook in history and he had the cardio to match Marciano despite being a much bigger man. Let's not forget how he handed Ali his first loss through a completely dominant performance (Ali was 3 and a half years post lay off and it showed) and how he fought blind in Manilla, already having had one all but blind eye and having the other swelled by Ali enough from the 13th onwards that he couldn't barely see the punches to avoid them. While Ali collapsed to the canvas after his victory, Joe stood, having fought to the end to plead with Eddie Futch to carry on despite his complete lack of sight. Had his good eye not been swelled? Who knows what would have happened. One of the true, all time greats and a top 3 fighter from the Golden Age along with Ali and Foreman.
Had his good eye not swelled it would have been 2-1 to Joe Frazier and anybody that knows this true champion and fighter would agree. Even with his bad eyes if he would have gone back out I still think he would have prevailed because I think he was much tougher mentally than Ali.
Joe Frazier will always be the greatest for me, and I count it 2 for Joe because in the thrilla in manilla Ali was shouting cut my gloves off and Joe was shouting don't you dare stop it, for me that tells the winner.
Joe Frazier fought younger bigger stronger tougher and better fighters (Bonavena,Chuvalo Quarry) than Marciano did and actually beat the then Undefeated 29 year old Muhammad Ali FOR REAL! in the Fight of the Century......not some fake racist biased great white hope computer Superfight. Frazier's ONLY DEFEATS were to a Undefeated Prime Powerhouse Big George Foreman (WHO HAVE KILLED THE ROCK LOL!) and in Epic Wars to Muhammad Ali. "Marciano is an all timer." for beating up OLD TIMERS! Rocky was slow, & his punch is this era would be overrated he was too small, & got hit too often. People are CRAZY enough 2 believe he'd beat a prime Tyson or Ali. I saw this man's fights and I don't see what the big deal about him was except for a big punch against old worn out Heavyweights like Joe Louis worn out Light heavyweights like Archie Moore and Ezzard Charles. Marciano’s Overrated PADDED record can be summed up with a title of a movie “No Country for Old Men”
@@WZ912 While I do still love Marciano and think he had a granite chin, one of the hardest punches in history and a legendary cardio and work rate similar to smoking Joe, I love your enthusiasm for smoking Joe. In my opinion, had he approached Big George with that stick and move style of the second fight but in the sunshine showdown, where he was younger, had better vision, was pre-Manila and had more power, I genuinely reckon if he could have just drawn Big George into a longer fight (they were literally the polar opposite, with smoke being just as much of a killer in round 15 as 1 whereas Big George was definitely more the type to get his man out of the gate, like the 2 rounds it took for Ken Norton and Frazier, with only 5 rounds for Lyle), I feel he would have had a chance to take him. And that's in all respect to Big George, who I truly feel was the hardest puncher in boxing history and a top 5 heavyweight GOAT. But it really frustrates me when people say Joe would have lost 10/10 times to Big George. It was the classic 'styles make fights' and it showed when an older, post Manila, worse vision Frazier was quite even with Foreman until the 5th round of their rematch.
What a great video - thank you!!! Love Joe Frazier - he had the "Eye of the Tiger" and made the absolute most of his skills! He was a gentleman and fantastic athlete too! RIP "Smokin Joe".
@@kuhanblock9380 Yeah considering Joe Frazier fought younger bigger stronger tougher and better fighters (Bonavena,Chuvalo Quarry) than Marciano did. Then actually beat the then Undefeated 28 year old Muhammad Ali FOR REAL! In the Fight of the Century......not some fake racist biased great white hope computer Superfight.
I remember my father brothers and I would watch the Wide World of Sports to watch Smokin Joe. Mr Frazier was our favorite ❤ God blessed this man with something that can never be taught
Joe frazier has always been more of a hero to me than Ali because he never dissed any of his opponents to sell tickets to his fights. Unfortunately hard work and humility does not get noticed in a media obsessed world,just look where he came from man!
Man I gotta say thanks for the video. It's criminal that there isn't more stuff like this about Smokin' Joe. The obstacles he had were tremendous and he ran straight through them like an unstoppable tank.
Joe Frazier is my favorite boxer. I loved his relentless, attacking style. He gave Ali a good beating in their first fight. I think Ali always knew that Frazier was trouble.
This man was Ali's kryptonite. He was the first of several champions trained by the legendary Eddie Futch to beat him, and he deserves to be held up as one of the all-time greatest heavyweights, alongside Joe Louis, Ali, George Foreman, Lennox Lewis and Rocky Marciano.
"Smokin" Joe Frazier PRO record: 32-4-1, KO's 27 / Title record: 10-2-0, KO's 8) Amateur record: 38-2. - 1964 Olympic heavyweight gold medalist. - Heavyweight Champion of the World: 1968-1973 (10-1-0, KO's 8). - Most notable victories: Mohammad Ali, Jimmy Ellis x2, Bob Foster, George Chuvalo, Jerry Quarry x2, Buster Mathis, Oscar Bonavena x2, Eddie Machen, Doug Jones Joe Bugner. - Most notable losses: Mohammad Ali x2 & George Foreman x2.
@@7415_Gamer Yes that is fully true. He lost only to the best at the time, beside that he and Holmes never fought! And in my opinion, only Foreman was his kryptonite. He had always a decent chanse against Ali and even could be argued he got wrong against ALi in the 2nd and 3rd match. In the 2nd Ali just clinched and hanged on him with-out the referee doing anything and the 3rd was closer but while Frazier's eye biew was shut, ALi was near done and completely exhausted. Frazier had one more round in himself but Ali not. And they stoped the fight in favour of ALi who could literally barelly stand up!
Yes, Joe was undersized heavy weight boxer, closer to a cruiser weight ...not much over 200 LBs....but extremely tough guy, make no mistake about that, but Not enough close to TYSPN!!
I mean, Joe was a really good boxer nonetheless, closer to a cruiser weight, tougher than nails for a relatively small on statue guy...No disrespect, but he was NO mole Tyson. Tyson would have easily handled joe..Joe would have been down on his A** in the 1 st round if he fought ( Tyson in prime years)..make no mistake about that fact!
@@daviddavis3389 Well, that could be discussed in many ways of views with Joe Frazier vs. Mike Tyson. They are similar in many ways and would create a very interesting fight and both would land some bombs. However, while Tyson may have veen physically stronger and possibly be a better dodger of straight punches then Frazier, that would not be the issues here. What would be the issues is speed, stamina and mentallity. Frazier had all that. Tyson had it but with conditions. Tyson was mentally more fragile and was a bulle fighter, who would mentally decline when the going gets tough. Frazier was the opposite. He was like a machine who did not stop until he could not go on. There was no quitting in him. You had to blast him, wutch was not something no one could do beside Foreman or have the capacity of doing enough to win a decision (Mohammad Ali) Tyson admired Frazier's career greatly and was mighty impressed of his old work ethics. Tyson could get sloppy with his training - Frazier was always sharp and diciplined. If they fought, I believe both men had a punchers chanse, but if Tyson did not catch Frazier early, I believe Frazier would take Tyson out in after middle rounds just because of his mentallity and aggression would still be strong while Tyson would back-down and question himself and his chanses. See, both would go for same angles and both are aware of that and both would try to counter each-other BUT Frazier's mean body shots would make Tyson buckle sooner or later. Larry Holmes who sparred with Joe Frazier on many ocassions for the 3rd Ali fight said that Frazier was the meanest body puncher he ever fought and that Tyson could never match that in body shots. Frazier was like a machine and near broke Holmes ribbs more then once.
It's insane how some of the most amazing boxers of all time came from a background of deep poverty and struggle. It's amazing how boxing(and sports in general) provided a way to escape suffering and tragic how some of these legends' families and friends probably never had the opportunity to similarly improve their lives.
Sugar Ray Robinson said, he hated his job. What is amazing about, when people have to fight, because they are poor? It would be amazing, if nobody needed to fight, only people who want to fight.
their hard upbringing is precisely why they were so good. hard manual labor and being on the brink of constant survival is perfect training for boxing.
@@trollchong8017 It's amazing that sports and arts are often incredibly meritocratic. There are few other places where a poor man could get rich and actually rise out of poverty. Statistically speaking it doesn't happen often. It would indeed be amazing if poverty didn't exist and nobody had to fight or do other dangerous jobs to improve his life but I think the fact that sports offered people like Jack Johnson a way to reach things that other men of his race and class who might have worked equally as hard and were equally as talented couldn't have dreamed of.
@@JM-bl3ih I disagree. Hard manual labour and being on the brink of constant survival are excellent ways to destroy your health physically, mentally and shorten your lifespan by decades. Working class boxers become boxers because they see no other path to making good money.
ennie.@@depaola63 I saw Hagler get hit with a punch that literally shook the ring when he fought Bennie Briscoe. Hagler looked at him and laughed, At that point I started praying for Bennie
While Ali was phenomenal I always liked Joe a bit more. He didn't have Ali's verbal ability but his dogged determination and toughness were more then enough for anybody. I always loved Joe and Tyson cause they were smaller fighters who used great head movement to get inside then went to work. The Frazier left hook was a thing of beauty to watch. A prime Frazier vs prime Tyson would have been an interesting fight to behold. Tysons power was frightening but something tells me Joe's toughness would have given iron Mike some trouble.
Tyson had great power and was a fast starter--but Joe was tougher. Tyson didn't have the greatest chin, Frazier was knocked down 6 TIMES by George Foreman and he wouldn't quit!! The Frazier of 71' vintage would've weathered Tyson's early barrage and that meat-cleaver left hook combined with killer body shots would ultimately KO Tyson in about 10 rounds.
One of the things Tyson noticed about Ali was that Ali was the kind of fighter that would not give up. It's one of those vids where Tyson gets emotional talking about Ali, and he says "Ali is on a completely different level from you and I." And no doubt Frazier was the same way. These guys would rather be beaten to a pulp and yet keep pushing forward than give up. They're admirable qualities only fighters like Ali and Frazier have. Still, even with that being said, I think Tyson would win against Frazier because he was also very fast. But we'll never know, the same way we don't know who'd win with Ali vs Tyson.
It can and will always be debated, but I could see Frazier beating Tyson. Could be wrong, but Joe had a swarming style that I think could have got him inside to deliver body shots that could have been devastating. On the other hand, Tyson had a rare combination of speed, power, and ferocity that few could equal. Frazier was a boxing equivalent of the Energizer battery. No matter how many times he went down, he never stayed down... no matter how hard he got hit, he just kept coming and coming. Stronger chin, imo, than Mike. I'd go with Tyson early or Frazier late. If Joe answers the bell in round 4 or 5... I think Tyson would be in trouble.
@@jarvisyoung8350 That's the key--Frazier being able to withstand Tyson's early round attack. I think the Joe Frazier of March 1971 vintage would be too tough and too well conditioned for Tyson--and Joe would win a war of attrition with a later round (around the 10th) KO.
I've always loved Frazier. Brutal puncher and really never talked shite. One of the greatest of all times. Thank you for spotlighting him, he deserves it. I just subscribed. 👍🙏
Efrain, philidephia was Joe's adopted home city.. Joe had to flee his home town due to go Etting onto some of trouble, to therefore his family sent him to the city of brotherly love for him to take refuge ...it's reputed that some bars guy were pursuing him...Joe was born in Beaufort, South Carolina, the deep Racist South..
Old school heavyweights (1900s - early 70s) were the embodiment of grit and toughness. Frazier has always been one of my favourites, and one of the greatest swarmers of all time.
I think any old-school HW boxer could put a real ass whipping on any of those bouncers forced upon boxing fans today. Heck, I even think those guys would dominate UFC too. The amount of grit they had was insurmountable.
Right nobody could train for that Hook, because for sure it was coming. Forman I believe didn't train for it either. Just my opinion. Forman was just a big powerful boxer with a far greater reach.
When Ali said "Don't you know you're in here with god tonight!" and Frazier replies saying "God picked the wrong night". That was it. You know in that moment these are the two best fighters on the planet and they can be beaten by only each other. One guy who knows he is the God of boxing and the other guy is just not there to lose. Frazier lived the hard life, paid his dues with an early age. You cannot beat a man like that by sheer speed and skill. That's a savage in there, and you have to match their strength, their heart, their endurance to have a chance at winning. Ali just underestimated Frazier on this occasion. Legendary stuff. God bless both their souls.
Coldest line in the history of trash talk . I’m with you I think right then Ali knew the head games wouldn’t work. Joe was not gonna be stopped. A true man.
Frazier is one of my favorite boxers. That bobbing movement made him iconic and his heart as a champion is legendary. Armed with a killer left hook a trully amazing warrior.
I really admire Smokin' Joe. He always seemed to be an honorable man. Ali's attitude towards him, after Joe managed to get his license back, was really a shame. Greeting from Argentina, the land of Sergio Bonavena, Carlos Monzón and Nicolino Locche (and sorry for the band english)
Have seen all his fights that are available on tape, disc, online, etc. and he is hands down the most exciting fighter I've ever seen! Speed, power, endurance, will, he had it all, and I don't believe any heavy in history could have taken the Joe Frazier who beat Ali in their first fight!
He was the man but watch Joe Frazier versus George Foreman. Big George was Fraziers better from the beginning to the end. Just a bad matchup for Frazier being so big against a smaller heavyweight with a big heart like Frazier.
@@chancegoode173 Yep, those Foreman fights were massacres! He was the only man who went after George and for Foreman, it was perfect! I still believe that the Joe from his first Ali fight would have won though!
What about his stamina his work rate and second to his hook his toughness. Fighters like joe could only be stopped by someone like Foreman who had extra ordinary power, that’s how tough joe was
@@lanatana3867 that's not an offensive weapon tho man, not something that can be taught. All the greats had those same attributes in some quantity or another. As far as offensive his right hand was more of a swat than anything most of the time. His jab was non existent in alot of his fights. He was almost a one handed fighter in a sense. Everything was predicated on him landing that left hook. Not tryin to demean or disrespect him or anything just sayin to me that makes his left hook even more impressive and if it's not the best in heavyweight history it's damn sure top 3
I love this man so much, it hurts me when he's not regarded like he should be. the man who threw every punch with ill intent, I can't recall seeing him throw a jab.
I was an Ali fan my whole life but this guy here is something else. The energy, speed, drive, momentum, and power was incredible. So humble and stoic. One of the goats for sure.
I know a guy who was hitch-hiking in Philly (he was born in Philly) back in the day, and a nice car pulled up and gave him a ride. It was Joe Frazier. He said he was the nicest guy. Many years later, I was in an area called “Cubao,” having dinner with some friends. We were eating in a restaurant in a shopping center called the “Ali Mall”. It never occurred to why it was named that until I saw all these framed Black & White photos in this one section. The photos were of Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier and right across the mall, clearly visible, was the arena where the “Thrilla in Manila” took place🇵🇭
Fraziers craft is under rated, most of all his defense. Many of those KO left hooks were counters that never could have happened if he had a lesser defense. It’s interesting to think how Ali and Frazier would have been viewed in history if Frazier would have won thier last fight, wen Ali was in the process giving up and Angelo Dundee argued with him long enough for Fraziers corner to stop the fight under protest from Frazier.
Hey man, you know and so do I if Joe was allowed to fight that last round it would have been 2-1 to him and history would have been different. Read Ali's book because it was Joe Frazier that took him 'closest to death' in his words, and in round 15 in Manilla it would have been death or glory for Joe, and I choose to think it would have been glory.
@@davidgray8654 I agree Joe never would have surrendered. And if he would have come away besting Ali in the trilogy history may see him as the better of the two. I think it’s disrespectful to joe the way they talk as if Ali was so much more skilled, that’s not true, they’re were both very skilled, just different styles Ali was more evasive and Frazier was an aggressive style mainly because his smaller size which required him to fight on the inside.
Joe Frazier was one of the true throwback, hard-working, fearless, wrecking machine kind of fighter. Never ducked anyone and was the first-ever to beat the greatest. Smoking Joe was and will always be among the greatest to ever grace us with his larger-than-boxing persona and one of the hardest punchers ever. His left hook was perhaps the most feared in the heavyweight division in those days. Long live his memory.
Joe was everything mentioned below in previous comments . Joe was outside the ring a caring and sentimental, sensitive man with a heart of gold . Rip Joe thanks for the boxing gold, your with God now I am sure.
" See Joe Frazier's just the kind of target that a good boxer like myself wants. He don't duck, his head is always open, he's flat footed, he don't move, I'm gonna have a picnic with him." - Muhammad Ali pre Fight of the Century 1971 "It was like death. Closest thing to dyin' that I know of." -Muhammad Ali post Thrilla in Manila 1975
I grew up watching ABC sports and their boxing programming and back then you could watch a title fight within a day or two of the fight going down or sometimes even on a live broadcast. Just sit and watch it on your television in the privacy of your own home without paying for anything. I've always been a contrarian and because everybody liked Muhammad Ali so much I decided that my guy was going to be Joe Frazier. Fraser was an amazing fighter with as much speed and skill as power but of course he was overshadowed during those years of his fighting for heavyweight glory. I think he was a top 10-15 heavyweight of all time and was only held back by his smaller size and by the fact that the heavyweight division was stacked during those years. Guys like Kenny Norton would have been incredible champions if they hadn't had all of the other fighters to be measured against from the same era. I can remember my incredible excitement watching Frazier beat Muhammad Ali to the shock and dismay of everyone else. It's strange to think about it this way but I think if Joe had been a light heavyweight he would have been the greatest of all time. Now being a top 10 heavyweight is still better than being the number one light heavyweight. That's just the way it works in boxing.
It's ironic how much people praise Muhammad Ali for his kindness and his love for all black people, and then hear him talk about other black men so disparagingly. I've lost a lot of respect for Muhammad Ali over the years. When he wasn't womanizing, he was out insulting his own people calling them monkeys and slaves and Uncle Tom's. I think Joe Frazier was a better champion. I also think Muhammad Ali was afraid of Joe Frazier. Muhammad Ali never put Frasier on his back. But he certainly laid Muhammad Ali out
losing respect because Ali because he was promoting fights lol? Makes 0 sense. Ali still apologized for the rest of his life to Frazier who openly forgave him (despite sometimes sliding in jabs at Ali). And okay, Ali's womanizing and cheating on his wives is a valid argument for disliking him, Ali's sex addiction began when he was 16 the night before he Kent Green beat him via TKO, but that was also caused by a fellow boxer who brought himself and Ali to two prostitutes, not Ali himself. (Ali discussed this in his Seven and Two chapter in his 1975 autobiography). Ali was also never afraid of Joe Frazier, the only man that ever gave Ali the slightest fear was Sonny Liston, and even then it wasn't to a massive degree. Apart from that Ali was an outstanding human being. He donated millions of his own and raised even more, stood up against Vietnam, rescued a suicidal man from a ledge, rescued hostages, and so much more. Don't lose respect for Ali because he did bad things, he was a human being and had his faults and he recognized and apologized for them later in life, something that most people could never do.
Ali didn't call nobody a slave. He called dudes like patterson and terrel am uncle Tom because they would Care more about white people's opinion than their own and would call him clay
BTW ali was never afraid of frazier. After the first fight. Joe was in a hospital Over a month with life threatening injures while ali was out in a few days
Yeah, and he took Frazier best punch flush "Leaping left hook" and got up in a few seconds. Frazier never was able to stop Ali, but Ali made him quit in his corner. The greatest won in the end.
This man was the only fighter I ever saw that wasn't afraid of fighting anybody in his era!! He had 4 loses and it was from Ali and Foreman... The 2 righters everybody was afraid of... He fought foreman twice in his prime... Absolutely in my opinion the biggest heart ever... I watched him continue to be brave over and over again
Legendary defense. It takes alot of head movement skills to fight like that. Especially when you dont use a highguard. Having his hands down allowed him to guard his body. Then he would slip under your shots when you went to the head. Hes my favorite.
Because of his size and style he took more punishment than any other fighter I've ever seen he was amazing tough as they come with an iron jaw. He only knew one way to fight one style and he just kept coming no reverse gear lol. God rest his soul in peace
I remember watching this fight live on ABC 7 with my dad. My dad was for Ali but I was full on, without a doubt, a Frazier fan to the max. I told my dad before the fight, that Ali would go down once before the fight was over from a left hook. Well, history speaks for itself, because Ali did go down from several vicious left hook. I was hoopin' and hollarin' as my dad got madder and madder at me. hahahaha. My dad couldn't believe that anyone could knock Ali out or down, but Frazier did and it was a beautiful shot. I was so happy that night, and very proud of my little 9 year old self. lol. Frazier was relentless ( always coming forward no matter what or who was in front of him). He hated Ali for the things he said about him after helping Ali stay afloat (broke ass) before his come back. Joe felt betrayed and he should have, after all the nasty things Ali said about him in press conferences. I remember the things Ali said and it really pissed me off. Even as a 9 year old kid, i could decipher between what was good sportsmanship, as opposed to the evil, wicked, vicious and disgusting remarks made by Ali, Joe wasn't expecting Ali to go as far as he did, crossing a line, by saying the things he did, after doing what he did for Ali. He took it deeply personal and that's how he fought and BEAT Ali, the first time. He was not to be stopped and it showed. RIP, Frazier. You were my favorite and always will be "SMOKIN' JOE".
Joe had a lot of disdvantages only 6 foot =182 centimeters and a right eye that was almost blind and a left arm which he could not stretch and still he was a true heavy weight worldchampion , if Joe was 4 inches=10 cm taller he would have destroyed all his opponents, every single one of them , what a true MAN he was !!!
I met him as a 10 year old after his boxing career was done. I still do not know how anyone could have hurt him. He was do unbelievably thick and just as kind with me...
I love Joe Frazier! He is a hero of boxing and deserves to be remembered for that! A small slice of his heroism was Jerry Quarry. Quarry fought EVERYBODY that was anybody in the heavyweight division. Quarry fought Floyd Patterson, twice. Fought Joe Frazier himself, twice! Muhammad Ali, twice. That is how tough Quarry was and how special Joe Frazier was to beat a man like that!
I really like the fact that Joe Frazier didn’t try to make excuses and just dealt with whatever was in front of him. Head on as if his life depended on it. He literally boxed angry with devastating results. Also him beating down disrespectful Ali is the cherry on top
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Joe Frazier was a man who came from the dirt and never got changed by money or fame, 1 of the nicest humans boxing has ever seen.
A man of honor, meek (power under control) , one of the last after Ali changed the boxing atmosphere for the worst. According to Thomas Sowell.
@@realchristianmusicchannele9532 Here Is Someone Who Is Informed
I agree
He really was amazing 🥲
Thomas Sowell knows what he's talking about.
Wasn't big and strong as Foreman, wasn't natural as Ali, but he had the drive, fire in the belly and a heart of a lion. As Big George said: "They stopped the fight, but they didn't stop Joe Frazier - I knocked that man down 6 times, and he was still looking for me. He was the bravest fighter I've ever seen".
Rest in peace smokin' Joe, You were the real people's champ.
Spot on 💯
How Foreman didn't kill him is a testament to how tough Joe was....
Joe was the personification of not giving a shit about damage. Joe would come for you, always.
Much respect Joe but Saint Clair Ali will forever always be the people's champ. End of story.
@@C-bo2584 No he won't; Joe Frazier is WAY more interesting than Ali. Everybody back then wanted to see Frazier kick Ali's ass. And he did too.
I met Joe Frazier 3 months before he passed away.. I was stationed at Nellis AFB and just happened to be working on a Saturday. My retirement ceremony was coming up soon so I went to the ticketing agency on base to price tickets for my family.. As I walked into the building in uniform I recognized the Champ sitting at a table signing autographs. I immediately payed my respects to the Champ.. Such a beautiful person, friendly, and had a big hearty laugh. I called my Mentor back at my hangar.. I was so siked up.. Chief you gotta come over her right NOW!!! We took pics with the Champ and he signed my boxing gloves that I had been working out with in my Muay Thai class. Beautiful memory with class act Champion.. Smokin Joe Frazier.. Rest Peacefully Champ.. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
You were privileged Mike. As a nine-year-old in Ireland I saw this fight - to my old man's credit he let me stay up late to watch it. Loved Joe Frazier. A real honest to God champion with no airs or graces.
@@thinkofitthisway7804 Bro.. it was a Blessing and Honor to meet the Champ.. I normally didn't work on weekends but this was one of weekends whereas we had to play a supporting role for fighter pilots. To walk into that building and see him sitting there at a table.. 😳😳 I'm STILL in awe!!! 💯
I wish I would of met the guy, he has my respect, coming from working on a farm.
@@copperfish543 Meeting the Champ with my Mentor Chief Marion right there was an incredible experience. As excited and humbled as we were to meet him, he was the same way with us. The Champ was a huge supporter of the military and was grateful that we protected our country as well as him and his family. His laugh was so infectious!! Incredible man, courageous spirit, and a absolute vicious left hook in the ring! 💯💪🏾🥊 Rest in Power Champ 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@Manish Mims I can see the Champ doin that, he was rather unique!! 😁 I was stationed in Germany for 6 years and I would see people using Mayo on fries instead of ketchup. I tried it after two years.. it was actually not bad... Never would it replace ketchup tho! 🤣😂
“Left hook so perfect it even looked good when he missed” now that’s Epic...😎✅
That's poetry
Joe Fraser didn’t get the credit he deserved but out of it came Mike Tyson
@@texasblackchip-gregmoore9871 preach. Smokin Joe didn't get nearly the love or respect he deserved. Clubber Lang from Rocky 3 reminded me of a really angry Joe Frazier.
its his trade mark althoug it was a strange technique because he finish the punch off balance, it was a legendary hook but far from perfect. in fact i think it was a great form for him but no one else. he also have a great waist movement that help him a lot after the left hook when he miss, i mean he punch and immediatly goes down and swing his full body in a circle, that amazing. and he do it so well that sometimes he K.O. someone and didnt know because he was doing that elusive movement.
i will never forget when joe was asked if he was willing to die and go out for the 15th round in the 3rd ali fight and he said yes with no hesitiation. it is amazing the mindset they develop rising to that level of athlete.
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Do you think he would have won if he kept fighting?
@@realchristianmusicchannele9532 Nope. And he would have incurred untold damage to his health. Both his eyes were closing and Ali was teeing off on them with his right hands on Frazier's face trying to close those eyes with those rights leads. Frazier's trainer did the right thing.
@some Xud do you think if he did give up he would have lost the title of best in the world?
@some Xud I don't think so either, unfortunately most people do.
How Ali was able to get up after that shot, not to mention having endured 14 other rounds of punishment, I'll never know. Two legendary warriors.
Their Trilogy is the best in boxing IMO!!!
He gets up like it was a lucky shot to the chin in the early rounds. So unbelievably impressive. As more of a Frazier fan than an ali fan that first fight is my favorite obviously
Yeah both of them beat up on each other really good in that fight, but that knockdown punch probably was no different than the other left hooks throughout the fight, it just happened to catch Ali moving backwards and Ali went down but obviously not extremely hurt because he got right up and fought okay for the rest of the round, but yeah I scored the fight for Frazier the same way as the ref did 8-6-1. No telling how the fight would have went if it was both of them in their prime. I mean yeah this was Frasier's prime but Ali's prime little more like it was in the 60s when he had his full speed and reflexes and didn't get hit hardly at all. I honestly don't think he would have got hit with even half those left hooks
Not only that Frazier beat on him the rest of the round. He lands another lefthook that whip Ali's head up in the air. I thought Ali's head would go into orbit.
Ali did dirty to liston and Frazier. Fixed or humiliated and bullied the whole family using his fame. Dirty one. Never be proud of him if you like goodness.
"I smoke on the mic like Smokin' Joe Frazier!"
~ Inspeckta Deck
Joe Frazier is the real Rocky story. He is Philly boxing. Respect to the ancestor 👊🏾
A Real Boxer who fought the real Apollo Creed Aka Muhammad Ali
Rocky wasn't completely based on Joe it was predominantly based on Chuck Wepner who fought Ali and though being completely out matched skill wise managed to knock Ali down. The only thing stallone stole from Joe was mainly being from Philly and probably some training bits. If you look up Wepner he was most of character and plot. Stallone interviewed lots of pro boxers while researching the script and he borrowed bits off lots of fighters but most assume he is based on Joe because of it being based in Philly
@@seaniekay we know the history of the movie. That's not the point. The point is racist white folks put up a statue of a fictional character & never thought to honor the real heavyweight champion Smokin' Joe. It took BHop to get Frazier statue made & placed at the Philly Sports Complex.
@@xman333 not all white folks are racist
@@seaniekay emphasis on racist white folks never said all. Now you're reaching.
This generation of fighters were made of different stuff, literally nothing short of death could stop them!
That hook that frazier put ali down with, would've knocked a bull out!
True gladiators.
Fighters were getting paid scraps compared to today's fighters. 1 loss to a contender would send you down a long way. Basically these guys were fighting for their livelihood
@@ascendantking2178 exactly.
Even breath couldn't stop them
@@ascendantking2178 And now we have So many belts and as fans figuratively have to fight to get the right if not Wanted 🥊fights🥊 😆
@@ascendantking2178 Considering that they clearly deserved more pay than many of today's fighters it's just stupid right? Some of these today would go some of the fight and then from 1 punch will fall down and that be it. These old era footages of boxing seem like boxers aim to win or die trying.
“God picked the wrong night.” Epic.
It was in that moment he knew he fucked up. Fight was over .
Joe Frazier - An incredible fighter with the meanest left hook in the history of the sport, an amazing man who dedicated his entire life to become a champion.
🥊Frazier hurts every time he thinks of Ali. His hostility still rages within. It's a consuming, ugly bitterness he has carried for decades, the result of the hurtful things Ali has said. He insulted his intelligence, his character and his lack of black pride. Ali called Frazier ugly and ignorant and, most disturbingly, an Uncle Tom. Frazier, the son of South Carolina sharecroppers, was deeply wounded by Ali's ridicule which was accepted as socio-political fact and isolated Frazier from the black community.
Ali somehow succeeded in making a fight between two African - American men a matter of black and white. Throughout the black community, he was an object of derision and scorn because of the way Ali treated him, it was cruel. The hatred grew intensely within Frazier. He was unable to compete with Ali's eloquence, but he had a left hook that could do the talking for him. Frazier, with loating in his heart and thunder in his Everlast gloves, punished Ali for the things he said.
Notice after Ali vs Frazier 1 fight announcers said Frazier was feeling sic in his corner and he just wanted to go back to dressing room. That's because Joe couldn't slow his heart and nervous system back down to a resting state. Joe already had history of high blood pressure and diabetes, he spent nearly two weeks in the hospital for exhaustion, blood pressure, diabetes and kidney problems..
BUT BUT when he was in his 40s Joe was out dancing and singing in the clubs while Ali couldn't talk and his tremors were getting worse. Younger folks haven't a clue what Ali actually did to Joe, let me explain by saying it's exactly like today's Hollywood liberal cancel culture. Frazier hated that Louisville Lip and before fight he got on his knees and prayed to God that he could make Ali perish.
Personally i have to admit, everytime Frazier smacked Ali i cheered, We All Cheered, MILLIONS CHEERED
It's called promotion, and mental war games. He made fun of Liston (big ugly bear), Foreman (Mummy with no boxing ability) etc... He even wanted Chuck Wepner to call him the N word on national television to sell the fight better. It just business, and Frazier didn't understand that.
In regards to making fun of Ali and claim Frazier had it better. He was living in his gym and near broke towards the end. Ali may have not been all there mentally and physically, but is praised as the greatest all over the world. Sometimes great sacrifice in life, comes at a price. Ali was special, and helped the sport more than any other fighter in history.
🌐 When a simple man is put on tv most of his lifetime and praised by so many you should ask yourself, what is the purpose behind this demigod? The social engineering around Ali was incredible. The media hype built him up so audience viewers became entranced hypnotized and mesmerized from the entertainment and viewed his fights as iconic historic events even when he was losing and being rocked senseless.
Ali was chosen by the system and turned into a left wing political pawn, that's why he has an $85 million dollar museum in Louisville KY. Where is Louis Marciano Frazier and Holmes museums? At least Joe Louis was buried in Arlington National Cemetery with full military honors unlike Clay who dodged.
Elijah Mahomud convinced Clay to dodge cause he was their meal ticket, so Clay faked being Minister so he could dodge Nam while preaching cancel culture towards the white man who he called "Devil's." But it all backfired. He thought he was going to be gifted special exemption cause he was champ, Nope. 51,038 white soldiers vs 7,243 black soldiers were killed during Vietnam war so don't complain about racial inequality.
Jackie Robinson said, "Ali's stand was hurting his race who were, unlike him, fighting in Vietnam. The tragedy to me is, Cassius has made millions of dollars off the American public, and now he's not willing to show his appreciation to a country that's giving him, in my view, a fantastic opportunity."
At that time being drafted was the Law. When Clay refused induction someone had to take his place. What if that someone was You? I served in Nam shoulder to shoulder with black men who were "The Greatest" authentic heroes of America, not that privileged two-faced bigoted racist who turned his back to his own people once his boxing license was reinstated.
The lottery chose me right outta highschool and my parents didn't have money to send me to Canada or bribe a doctor for medical excuse. Blame the politicians and military industrial complex, not the young innocent teenage kids who were family, friends and neighbors. Good men who did their best in a bad situation who were sent there to fight for the ideal of freedom of people everywhere.
Dad told me, "son, it's the's law, go fight hard, and represent your country well." So i fought hard, and represented my flag proudly. What would You have done? Donald J. T. avoided Nam and the world hates him, Cassius Clay resists and becomes a famous civil rights activist and legendary antiwar hero. Today BLM is painted on every basketball court and I'm supposed too become less white and reprogrammed, something is twisted.
Ali's legend is far greater than the actual reality of his career lik' gettin rocked by 185 lb fighters and outscoring flat-footed sluggers. I stepped through those ropes 24 times and it's not that difficult after first several fights. What's difficult is working a common job 10 hours a day for 50 years to pay mortgage and put food on the table for your children.
Frazier was special, and he-whooped his arse. Made him wear-pampers and be spoon-fed before he was 50. In the end Joe wanted to live in his gym where it was comfortable. And i assure-ya he always had 500 dollars in-pocket. Yes Ali is known around the globe only because his generation is still alive. Give it another another generation and all his media-hype will all but disappear!!! Except for his inner-circle of folk who'll attempt in vain,, to-turn him into false prophet-demigod
Ali closed the show in the 3rd fight, made Frazier quit in his corner. In regards to your opinion on the Vietnam war. Ali made the right decision and took a stand for what he believed in. Unlike in WW2, where we were attacked. The Vietnamese did nothing to us, and we had no business being there. It's not our responsibility to risk our lives for an unworthy cause. In the end, the war was proven to be a mistake by America and Ali was cast back in the spotlight once again.
Ali, like Mike Tyson. Are iconic sports figures in the US, that brought popularity and attention to our great sport. I'm too young to of had the privilege of watching Ali, but thankfully I was able to watch Tyson before he retired.
Smokin Joe was my favorite heavyweight champion. His left hook was an art form.
I think the only left hook better and that's arguably is Ray Robinson
@@lavaughnfla518 at HW his left hook is unmatched
Tuas wasn't bad either...
I would argue Tommy Morrison threw the most picture perfect left hook at heavyweight. It was like watching Ken Griffey Jr swing a bat.
@@Sunflex404 when he threw it
So much respect for Joe Frazier one of the most honest fighters ever
To me, Joe Frazier was the embodiment of the American Dream. Came from abject poverty, faced a ton of hardship and adversity early in his life, but thru his sheer power of will and belief in himself, he became a legend. And what's more, thru it all, the people who knew him describe him as a good man who was kind, generous, & loyal. There will never be another Joe Frazier. Such a shame the city of Philadelphia did him so dirty in the end. That man is a real American sports hero.
A true warrior inside AND outside the ring. Frazier's story is so inspirational.
Why is the American dream coming from trajedy? I guess as a black man that's the best we can get.
Joe Frazier was so fucking great at boxing he burned his body out just so that he could teach a lesson to Ali.
It wasn't about revenge. It was about sportsmanship.
Because of that, I hold it in my heart he is the best boxer in the heavyweight division.
@@Samuel-lq7kp Joe was the true Philly hero.
American dream? What for an African American 🤔 I don't think so.... when he was champ he was treated by the police the same as any African American I those days...
Smokin Joe didn't knock his opponents out in the early rounds, but he'll beat the ever living shit out of his foes till his last breath.. plus he's a one tough son of gun and a heart of a Lion, eye of the Tiger and a bite of a Jaguar.. RIP CHAMP Smokin Joe
Love this comment bro!
That statue in Rocky 3 in Philly was really meant 4 Smoking Joe Frazier.
His opponents were also a lot tougher, it’s not that he couldn’t knock them out, it shows how much better the opponents were. They could take big punches and were also good enough to move and dish out their own punishment.
@@82dupontbut every bodyshots were dealing damages to his opponents resulting in wearing out their breathe and endurance.. more like the bodyshots were intentional to punish them
There’s not a man that’s ever stepped into a boxing ring that I respect more than Joe Frazier. What a heart of a lion he had. The guy just WOULD NOT quit. And has as much class as anyone I’ve seen. What a man.
Belethor: “Looking to protect yourself or do some damage?”
Frazier: “yes”
*Frazier as he bombards you with a plethora of left hooks to the body and head* 'EVERYTHING'S FOR SALE'
Frazier was before my time but I love watching his highlights because he was a monster. He was a terminator machine that always came forward. He didn’t have reverse in his transmission. Joe was also a great human being. He paid Ali’s bills and helped him financially. It’s a shame the way Ali disrespected him.
Ali was a mouthy POS, end of story.
That's a lie. Joe didn't pay Ali's bills. It was said that he either loaned or gave Ali money on a couple of occasions, but to say he financially carried Ali is a gross exaggeration.
@@lwmson really? and you KNOW this how? you are Ali's CFO?? Given how kind Joe is and how he talked to the president to get Ali re-instated and the fact that this narrator stated it as such, I tend to think it is true.
However, in Ali's mind (as the narrator stated) he was merely promoting the fight....
@@colin-manyeates-clan5221 And are you Frazier's CFO? No one really knows for sure how much money Joe lent/gave to Ali, but I seriously doubt that he was financially supporting Ali's during his exile. For one, Joe wasn't rich at that time and it's hard to imagine anyone being that generous.
I freely admit that I don't know exactly how much money he gave to Ali and I doubt if anyone truly does. But I do know that Joe's efforts to facilitate Ali's return to the ring by lobbying Nixon and Congress were not out of generosity or the kindness of his heart. Joe knew that the bout between him and Ali would be the biggest gate in history as it would be the first time that two undefeated heavyweight champs squared off in the ring. That said, Joe knew it would result in a highly lucrative payday for him, the likes of which he couldn't make with any other fighter. He was in this for his own personal gain.
@@lwmson Yeah you are right. By joes own admission, he gave him some money on 1 or two occassion. To say that Joe payed Alis Bills is just stupid.
My grandfather always said Ali’s greatness and hype always overshadowed how good Joe was. He said if Frazier was born in a different time he would have gotten the love and appreciation he deserved- this from a man who watched, Sugar Ray Robinson in his prime👊🏿
I'm 66 and I can remember watching all these great fighters with my dad. So many of them in black and white. I can remember listening to fights on the radio too. Thanks a million to the people responsible for this great video. This brought back so many wonderful memories. You have a new subscriber.
I thought Joe was the coolest man alive when I was young. He is by far my most heart felt athlete of all time, there's not even a close second. I miss Joe.
Joe was the true champion of that era. Skills, drive, and an honorable man. No other compares in all categories.
Let's go you did one of my favorite fighters of all time. He is the reason why I started boxing.
I started practicing my left hook because of legendary boxers like Joe, and I'm right handed. I think my left hook is stronger than my right now because of it
Smoke was one of the all time greats. His was the greatest left hook in history and he had the cardio to match Marciano despite being a much bigger man. Let's not forget how he handed Ali his first loss through a completely dominant performance (Ali was 3 and a half years post lay off and it showed) and how he fought blind in Manilla, already having had one all but blind eye and having the other swelled by Ali enough from the 13th onwards that he couldn't barely see the punches to avoid them. While Ali collapsed to the canvas after his victory, Joe stood, having fought to the end to plead with Eddie Futch to carry on despite his complete lack of sight. Had his good eye not been swelled? Who knows what would have happened. One of the true, all time greats and a top 3 fighter from the Golden Age along with Ali and Foreman.
Had his good eye not swelled it would have been 2-1 to Joe Frazier and anybody that knows this true champion and fighter would agree. Even with his bad eyes if he would have gone back out I still think he would have prevailed because I think he was much tougher mentally than Ali.
Joe Frazier will always be the greatest for me, and I count it 2 for Joe because in the thrilla in manilla Ali was shouting cut my gloves off and Joe was shouting don't you dare stop it, for me that tells the winner.
Joe Frazier fought younger bigger stronger tougher and better fighters (Bonavena,Chuvalo Quarry) than Marciano did and actually beat the then Undefeated 29 year old Muhammad Ali FOR REAL! in the Fight of the Century......not some fake racist biased great white hope computer Superfight. Frazier's ONLY DEFEATS were to a Undefeated Prime Powerhouse Big George Foreman (WHO HAVE KILLED THE ROCK LOL!) and in Epic Wars to Muhammad Ali.
"Marciano is an all timer." for beating up OLD TIMERS!
Rocky was slow, & his punch is this era would be overrated
he was too small, & got hit too often.
People are CRAZY enough 2 believe he'd beat a prime Tyson or Ali.
I saw this man's fights and I don't see what the big deal about him was except
for a big punch against old worn out Heavyweights like Joe Louis worn out Light heavyweights like Archie Moore and Ezzard Charles.
Marciano’s Overrated PADDED record can be summed up with a title of a movie “No Country for Old Men”
If Joe was allowed to continue.
He could have died from more repeated blows to the head from the G.O.A.T
That's why Eddie Futch is "Papa Smurf"
@@WZ912 While I do still love Marciano and think he had a granite chin, one of the hardest punches in history and a legendary cardio and work rate similar to smoking Joe, I love your enthusiasm for smoking Joe. In my opinion, had he approached Big George with that stick and move style of the second fight but in the sunshine showdown, where he was younger, had better vision, was pre-Manila and had more power, I genuinely reckon if he could have just drawn Big George into a longer fight (they were literally the polar opposite, with smoke being just as much of a killer in round 15 as 1 whereas Big George was definitely more the type to get his man out of the gate, like the 2 rounds it took for Ken Norton and Frazier, with only 5 rounds for Lyle), I feel he would have had a chance to take him. And that's in all respect to Big George, who I truly feel was the hardest puncher in boxing history and a top 5 heavyweight GOAT. But it really frustrates me when people say Joe would have lost 10/10 times to Big George. It was the classic 'styles make fights' and it showed when an older, post Manila, worse vision Frazier was quite even with Foreman until the 5th round of their rematch.
What a great video - thank you!!! Love Joe Frazier - he had the "Eye of the Tiger" and made the absolute most of his skills! He was a gentleman and fantastic athlete too! RIP "Smokin Joe".
His left hook was a masterpiece and also his stamina.
I'd say he had more stamina than Rocky Marciano considering he was heavier and more active
@@kuhanblock9380 Yeah considering Joe Frazier fought younger bigger stronger tougher and better fighters (Bonavena,Chuvalo Quarry) than Marciano did. Then actually beat the then Undefeated 28 year old Muhammad Ali FOR REAL! In the Fight of the Century......not some fake racist biased great white hope computer Superfight.
@@kuhanblock9380 then that's not more stamina because you're putting other things into the equation.
I remember my father brothers and I would watch the Wide World of Sports to watch Smokin Joe. Mr Frazier was our favorite ❤ God blessed this man with something that can never be taught
I'd never heard about Joe helping Ali with his bills while he was suspended. What a class act.
Yeah and Ali showed his appreciation by disparaging him to no end. Joe was a true man Ali was a piece of trash .
@@zman8340 bruh thats a show to sale tickets. ali trash? stfu
@@CHENOTV fight of the century no pay per view , they didn’t need to sell shit.Ali was womanizing trash
and then had to put up with endless abuse from Ali!!!
Joe frazier has always been more of a hero to me than Ali because he never dissed any of his opponents to sell tickets to his fights. Unfortunately hard work and humility does not get noticed in a media obsessed world,just look where he came from man!
Yes ! Frazier true mans man , Ali all trash no substance.
never be another like him, respect to the champ.
Man I gotta say thanks for the video. It's criminal that there isn't more stuff like this about Smokin' Joe. The obstacles he had were tremendous and he ran straight through them like an unstoppable tank.
Joe Frazier is my favorite boxer. I loved his relentless, attacking style. He gave Ali a good beating in their first fight. I think Ali always knew that Frazier was trouble.
Ali already mentioned that Joe has the heaviest left hook punch.
This man was Ali's kryptonite. He was the first of several champions trained by the legendary Eddie Futch to beat him, and he deserves to be held up as one of the all-time greatest heavyweights, alongside Joe Louis, Ali, George Foreman, Lennox Lewis and Rocky Marciano.
Ali's real kyroptine was eddie futch
@@ascendantking2178 Quite possibly so.
And Mike Tyson The fuck wrong with you
He was beautiful in his determination. Never backed up, never layed down
And Tyson Fury, and the Klitchkos. Did you stop watching boxing in 1990?
Joe Frazier's willpower is unbreakable, even a powerhouse like Big George Foreman coundn't knock him out unconscious.
"Smokin" Joe Frazier
PRO record: 32-4-1, KO's 27 / Title record: 10-2-0, KO's 8)
Amateur record: 38-2.
- 1964 Olympic heavyweight gold medalist.
- Heavyweight Champion of the World: 1968-1973 (10-1-0, KO's 8).
- Most notable victories: Mohammad Ali, Jimmy Ellis x2, Bob Foster, George Chuvalo, Jerry Quarry x2, Buster Mathis, Oscar Bonavena x2, Eddie Machen, Doug Jones
Joe Bugner.
- Most notable losses: Mohammad Ali x2 & George Foreman x2.
He lost to good boxers.
@@7415_Gamer Yes that is fully true. He lost only to the best at the time, beside that he and Holmes never fought!
And in my opinion, only Foreman was his kryptonite. He had always a decent chanse against Ali and even could be argued he got wrong against ALi in the 2nd and 3rd match.
In the 2nd Ali just clinched and hanged on him with-out the referee doing anything and the 3rd was closer but while Frazier's eye biew was shut, ALi was near done and completely exhausted. Frazier had one more round in himself but Ali not. And they stoped the fight in favour of ALi who could literally barelly stand up!
Yes, Joe was undersized heavy weight boxer, closer to a cruiser weight ...not much over 200 LBs....but extremely tough guy, make no mistake about that, but Not enough close to TYSPN!!
I mean, Joe was a really good boxer nonetheless, closer to a cruiser weight, tougher than nails for a relatively small on statue guy...No disrespect, but he was NO mole Tyson. Tyson would have easily handled joe..Joe would have been down on his A** in the 1 st round if he fought ( Tyson in prime years)..make no mistake about that fact!
@@daviddavis3389 Well, that could be discussed in many ways of views with Joe Frazier vs. Mike Tyson.
They are similar in many ways and would create a very interesting fight and both would land some bombs. However, while Tyson may have veen physically stronger and possibly be a better dodger of straight punches then Frazier, that would not be the issues here.
What would be the issues is speed, stamina and mentallity. Frazier had all that. Tyson had it but with conditions. Tyson was mentally more fragile and was a bulle fighter, who would mentally decline when the going gets tough. Frazier was the opposite. He was like a machine who did not stop until he could not go on. There was no quitting in him. You had to blast him, wutch was not something no one could do beside Foreman or have the capacity of doing enough to win a decision (Mohammad Ali)
Tyson admired Frazier's career greatly and was mighty impressed of his old work ethics. Tyson could get sloppy with his training - Frazier was always sharp and diciplined.
If they fought, I believe both men had a punchers chanse, but if Tyson did not catch Frazier early, I believe Frazier would take Tyson out in after middle rounds just because of his mentallity and aggression would still be strong while Tyson would back-down and question himself and his chanses. See, both would go for same angles and both are aware of that and both would try to counter each-other BUT Frazier's mean body shots would make Tyson buckle sooner or later.
Larry Holmes who sparred with Joe Frazier on many ocassions for the 3rd Ali fight said that Frazier was the meanest body puncher he ever fought and that Tyson could never match that in body shots. Frazier was like a machine and near broke Holmes ribbs more then once.
Joe Frazier is one of my favorite boxers of all time
It's insane how some of the most amazing boxers of all time came from a background of deep poverty and struggle. It's amazing how boxing(and sports in general) provided a way to escape suffering and tragic how some of these legends' families and friends probably never had the opportunity to similarly improve their lives.
Sugar Ray Robinson said, he hated his job. What is amazing about, when people have to fight, because they are poor? It would be amazing, if nobody needed to fight, only people who want to fight.
their hard upbringing is precisely why they were so good. hard manual labor and being on the brink of constant survival is perfect training for boxing.
@@trollchong8017 It's amazing that sports and arts are often incredibly meritocratic. There are few other places where a poor man could get rich and actually rise out of poverty. Statistically speaking it doesn't happen often. It would indeed be amazing if poverty didn't exist and nobody had to fight or do other dangerous jobs to improve his life but I think the fact that sports offered people like Jack Johnson a way to reach things that other men of his race and class who might have worked equally as hard and were equally as talented couldn't have dreamed of.
@@JM-bl3ih I disagree. Hard manual labour and being on the brink of constant survival are excellent ways to destroy your health physically, mentally and shorten your lifespan by decades. Working class boxers become boxers because they see no other path to making good money.
@@JM-bl3ih I agree bro.
most youngsters will never know...
It breaks my heart to look back on the way ali treated Frazier after helping him survive during his exile yet doesn't get near the recognition
Ali was a dirt bag , Frazier was a man .
Joe was NO JOKE! For real! He was up there with the best of them!
One of my all time favs.R.I.P. Champ.🥊
Frazier & Hagler for me don't get enough love
Absolutely 🌟💪💪
My two favorites by a mile
ennie.@@depaola63 I saw Hagler get hit with a punch that literally shook the ring when he fought Bennie Briscoe. Hagler looked at him and laughed, At that point I started praying for Bennie
While Ali was phenomenal I always liked Joe a bit more. He didn't have Ali's verbal ability but his dogged determination and toughness were more then enough for anybody. I always loved Joe and Tyson cause they were smaller fighters who used great head movement to get inside then went to work. The Frazier left hook was a thing of beauty to watch. A prime Frazier vs prime Tyson would have been an interesting fight to behold. Tysons power was frightening but something tells me Joe's toughness would have given iron Mike some trouble.
Tyson had great power and was a fast starter--but Joe was tougher. Tyson didn't have the greatest chin, Frazier was knocked down 6 TIMES by George Foreman and he wouldn't quit!! The Frazier of 71' vintage would've weathered Tyson's early barrage and that meat-cleaver left hook combined with killer body shots would ultimately KO Tyson in about 10 rounds.
One of the things Tyson noticed about Ali was that Ali was the kind of fighter that would not give up. It's one of those vids where Tyson gets emotional talking about Ali, and he says "Ali is on a completely different level from you and I."
And no doubt Frazier was the same way. These guys would rather be beaten to a pulp and yet keep pushing forward than give up.
They're admirable qualities only fighters like Ali and Frazier have. Still, even with that being said, I think Tyson would win against Frazier because he was also very fast. But we'll never know, the same way we don't know who'd win with Ali vs Tyson.
It can and will always be debated, but I could see Frazier beating Tyson. Could be wrong, but Joe had a swarming style that I think could have got him inside to deliver body shots that could have been devastating. On the other hand, Tyson had a rare combination of speed, power, and ferocity that few could equal. Frazier was a boxing equivalent of the Energizer battery. No matter how many times he went down, he never stayed down... no matter how hard he got hit, he just kept coming and coming. Stronger chin, imo, than Mike. I'd go with Tyson early or Frazier late. If Joe answers the bell in round 4 or 5... I think Tyson would be in trouble.
@@jarvisyoung8350 That's the key--Frazier being able to withstand Tyson's early round attack. I think the Joe Frazier of March 1971 vintage would be too tough and too well conditioned for Tyson--and Joe would win a war of attrition with a later round (around the 10th) KO.
@@GrubKiller436if Tyson could beat Joe.. it's clear that Tyson could easily beat Ali too
A pure warrior. One of the greatest performances ever in march 71.
I've always loved Frazier. Brutal puncher and really never talked shite. One of the greatest of all times. Thank you for spotlighting him, he deserves it. I just subscribed. 👍🙏
The toughest man to ever come from the city of brotherly love, Joe worked hard for every fight💯
Efrain, philidephia was Joe's adopted home city.. Joe had to flee his home town due to go Etting onto some of trouble, to therefore his family sent him to the city of brotherly love for him to take refuge ...it's reputed that some bars guy were pursuing him...Joe was born in Beaufort, South Carolina, the deep Racist South..
Typo: some bad guys were after him.
Joe Frazier is probably my favorite fighter and what I try to be in boxing
FINALLY I WAS WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO SO LONG!!! GOD BLESS CAN‘T WAIT TO WATCH IT!!💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
me too
Same dude
Old school heavyweights (1900s - early 70s) were the embodiment of grit and toughness. Frazier has always been one of my favourites, and one of the greatest swarmers of all time.
Yeah and they all would have lost to the heavyweights 2000 to present.
I think any old-school HW boxer could put a real ass whipping on any of those bouncers forced upon boxing fans today. Heck, I even think those guys would dominate UFC too. The amount of grit they had was insurmountable.
This man went toe to toe with Muhammad Ali for 41 rounds, he has to be one of the best boxers ever.
The one hook everyone knew was coming but couldn’t stand against
Except Big George Foreman.
Right nobody could train for that Hook, because for sure it was coming. Forman I believe didn't train for it either. Just my opinion. Forman was just a big powerful boxer with a far greater reach.
@@mikaels6009 foreman had a nasty uppercut which was the kryptonite to Frazier’s bobbing & weaving
"God picked the wrong night"
🥊 ❤️ 🥊
and they reckon Ali was witty and sharp!! does make me wonder what that reply did to Ali, in his mind??
@@davidgray8654 yo sorry for late reply, yes man I believe he managed to get inside of his head on that one. After all he was human .
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When Ali said "Don't you know you're in here with god tonight!" and Frazier replies saying "God picked the wrong night". That was it. You know in that moment these are the two best fighters on the planet and they can be beaten by only each other. One guy who knows he is the God of boxing and the other guy is just not there to lose. Frazier lived the hard life, paid his dues with an early age. You cannot beat a man like that by sheer speed and skill. That's a savage in there, and you have to match their strength, their heart, their endurance to have a chance at winning. Ali just underestimated Frazier on this occasion. Legendary stuff. God bless both their souls.
Coldest line in the history of trash talk . I’m with you I think right then Ali knew the head games wouldn’t work. Joe was not gonna be stopped. A true man.
But against George Foreman he looked very pathetic and got knocked out ridiculously again and again.
@@vijayvijay4123 right and Ali beat Forman …. So ??????
@@zman8340 Ali avoided rematch against Foreman.
@@zman8340 he dodged rematch against Foreman
Frazier is one of my favorite boxers. That bobbing movement made him iconic and his heart as a champion is legendary. Armed with a killer left hook a trully amazing warrior.
The most relentless boxer I’ve ever seen
No. It was Jerry q at Quarry...one of the best White Boxers( pugilist) certainly of the 70s...tough, tough and underrated fighter on my opinion.
I should get a mural on my wall with that thumbnail. Rest Easy Joe Fraizer. You are one of the best Heavyweights.
Beauty to watch and listen. Thanks for another masterpiece 🤜🤛
I really admire Smokin' Joe. He always seemed to be an honorable man. Ali's attitude towards him, after Joe managed to get his license back, was really a shame. Greeting from Argentina, the land of Sergio Bonavena, Carlos Monzón and Nicolino Locche (and sorry for the band english)
Have seen all his fights that are available on tape, disc, online, etc. and he is hands down the most exciting fighter I've ever seen! Speed, power, endurance, will, he had it all, and I don't believe any heavy in history could have taken the Joe Frazier who beat Ali in their first fight!
He was the man but watch Joe Frazier versus George Foreman. Big George was Fraziers better from the beginning to the end. Just a bad matchup for Frazier being so big against a smaller heavyweight with a big heart like Frazier.
@@chancegoode173 Yep, those Foreman fights were massacres! He was the only man who went after George and for Foreman, it was perfect! I still believe that the Joe from his first Ali fight would have won though!
The Ali who fought Cleveland williams and George Forman would've beaten that joe
Ahhh Perfect timing! Finally some Smokin Joe, Yes sir Thank you Rhythm. Great thumbnail
My all-time favorite heavyweight, RIP Smokin Joe.
I grew up watching these fights with my dad. An incredible time for boxing. Joe was amazing!
Given that Joe Frazier was almost blind in one eye makes his career and legacy even more great in my opinion
Such a respectful and strong man, may his soul rest in peace.
He came up with counters that a goat could managed to eat... best line of the series.
Smokin Joe....One of the true diamonds of the sport....I was a fan to the end...RIP Joe.....
The fact that his left hook was his only serious offensive weapon makes it even more impressive
What about his stamina his work rate and second to his hook his toughness. Fighters like joe could only be stopped by someone like Foreman who had extra ordinary power, that’s how tough joe was
@@lanatana3867 that's not an offensive weapon tho man, not something that can be taught. All the greats had those same attributes in some quantity or another. As far as offensive his right hand was more of a swat than anything most of the time. His jab was non existent in alot of his fights. He was almost a one handed fighter in a sense. Everything was predicated on him landing that left hook. Not tryin to demean or disrespect him or anything just sayin to me that makes his left hook even more impressive and if it's not the best in heavyweight history it's damn sure top 3
R.i.p Joe Frazier legend gone but never forgotten 🕊️
I love this man so much, it hurts me when he's not regarded like he should be. the man who threw every punch with ill intent, I can't recall seeing him throw a jab.
I was an Ali fan my whole life but this guy here is something else. The energy, speed, drive, momentum, and power was incredible. So humble and stoic. One of the goats for sure.
Frazier is my favorite fighter mostly because of the way he conducted himself both in and out of the ring. Pure class
I know a guy who was hitch-hiking in Philly (he was born in Philly) back in the day, and a nice car pulled up and gave him a ride. It was Joe Frazier. He said he was the nicest guy. Many years later, I was in an area called “Cubao,” having dinner with some friends. We were eating in a restaurant in a shopping center called the “Ali Mall”. It never occurred to why it was named that until I saw all these framed Black & White photos in this one section. The photos were of Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier and right across the mall, clearly visible, was the arena where the “Thrilla in Manila” took place🇵🇭
This video has made me appreciate Joe Fraizer very much. He was a true champion.
My favorite heavy. Heart of a true hero.
Took some serious stones to hang and fight in the Ali/Frazier era.
Great video thanks for uploading it. Frazer one of the hardest men ever to put on boxing gloves. Rip Smoking Joe
Fraziers craft is under rated, most of all his defense. Many of those KO left hooks were counters that never could have happened if he had a lesser defense. It’s interesting to think how Ali and Frazier would have been viewed in history if Frazier would have won thier last fight, wen Ali was in the process giving up and Angelo Dundee argued with him long enough for Fraziers corner to stop the fight under protest from Frazier.
Hey man, you know and so do I if Joe was allowed to fight that last round it would have been 2-1 to him and history would have been different. Read Ali's book because it was Joe Frazier that took him 'closest to death' in his words, and in round 15 in Manilla it would have been death or glory for Joe, and I choose to think it would have been glory.
@@davidgray8654 I agree Joe never would have surrendered. And if he would have come away besting Ali in the trilogy history may see him as the better of the two. I think it’s disrespectful to joe the way they talk as if Ali was so much more skilled, that’s not true, they’re were both very skilled, just different styles Ali was more evasive and Frazier was an aggressive style mainly because his smaller size which required him to fight on the inside.
Joe Frazier was one of the true throwback, hard-working, fearless, wrecking machine kind of fighter. Never ducked anyone and was the first-ever to beat the greatest. Smoking Joe was and will always be among the greatest to ever grace us with his larger-than-boxing persona and one of the hardest punchers ever. His left hook was perhaps the most feared in the heavyweight division in those days. Long live his memory.
Smokin Joe was simply amazing. To this day I watch his videos
Joe was everything mentioned below in previous comments . Joe was outside the ring a caring and sentimental, sensitive man with a heart of gold . Rip Joe thanks for the boxing gold, your with God now I am sure.
" See Joe Frazier's just the kind of target that a good boxer like myself wants. He don't duck, his head is always open, he's flat footed, he don't move, I'm gonna have a picnic with him." - Muhammad Ali pre Fight of the Century 1971
"It was like death. Closest thing to dyin' that I know of." -Muhammad Ali post Thrilla in Manila 1975
Smoking Joe is no joke, you don't remain the same after facing Frazier
I grew up watching ABC sports and their boxing programming and back then you could watch a title fight within a day or two of the fight going down or sometimes even on a live broadcast. Just sit and watch it on your television in the privacy of your own home without paying for anything. I've always been a contrarian and because everybody liked Muhammad Ali so much I decided that my guy was going to be Joe Frazier. Fraser was an amazing fighter with as much speed and skill as power but of course he was overshadowed during those years of his fighting for heavyweight glory. I think he was a top 10-15 heavyweight of all time and was only held back by his smaller size and by the fact that the heavyweight division was stacked during those years. Guys like Kenny Norton would have been incredible champions if they hadn't had all of the other fighters to be measured against from the same era. I can remember my incredible excitement watching Frazier beat Muhammad Ali to the shock and dismay of everyone else. It's strange to think about it this way but I think if Joe had been a light heavyweight he would have been the greatest of all time. Now being a top 10 heavyweight is still better than being the number one light heavyweight. That's just the way it works in boxing.
make you're size an advantage, a la iron mike. if mike was regularly proportioned he would not be implement the style he does.
Joe is born and raise in South Carolina. He is from there but lived in Philly
@@gilbertjenkins5002 that's pretty cool cuz I live in North Carolina. He's a Carolina brother.
It's ironic how much people praise Muhammad Ali for his kindness and his love for all black people, and then hear him talk about other black men so disparagingly. I've lost a lot of respect for Muhammad Ali over the years. When he wasn't womanizing, he was out insulting his own people calling them monkeys and slaves and Uncle Tom's. I think Joe Frazier was a better champion. I also think Muhammad Ali was afraid of Joe Frazier. Muhammad Ali never put Frasier on his back. But he certainly laid Muhammad Ali out
losing respect because Ali because he was promoting fights lol? Makes 0 sense. Ali still apologized for the rest of his life to Frazier who openly forgave him (despite sometimes sliding in jabs at Ali). And okay, Ali's womanizing and cheating on his wives is a valid argument for disliking him, Ali's sex addiction began when he was 16 the night before he Kent Green beat him via TKO, but that was also caused by a fellow boxer who brought himself and Ali to two prostitutes, not Ali himself. (Ali discussed this in his Seven and Two chapter in his 1975 autobiography).
Ali was also never afraid of Joe Frazier, the only man that ever gave Ali the slightest fear was Sonny Liston, and even then it wasn't to a massive degree.
Apart from that Ali was an outstanding human being. He donated millions of his own and raised even more, stood up against Vietnam, rescued a suicidal man from a ledge, rescued hostages, and so much more. Don't lose respect for Ali because he did bad things, he was a human being and had his faults and he recognized and apologized for them later in life, something that most people could never do.
Ali didn't call nobody a slave. He called dudes like patterson and terrel am uncle Tom because they would Care more about white people's opinion than their own and would call him clay
BTW ali was never afraid of frazier. After the first fight. Joe was in a hospital Over a month with life threatening injures while ali was out in a few days
Yeah, and he took Frazier best punch flush "Leaping left hook" and got up in a few seconds. Frazier never was able to stop Ali, but Ali made him quit in his corner. The greatest won in the end.
This man was the only fighter I ever saw that wasn't afraid of fighting anybody in his era!! He had 4 loses and it was from Ali and Foreman... The 2 righters everybody was afraid of... He fought foreman twice in his prime... Absolutely in my opinion the biggest heart ever... I watched him continue to be brave over and over again
Legendary defense. It takes alot of head movement skills to fight like that. Especially when you dont use a highguard. Having his hands down allowed him to guard his body. Then he would slip under your shots when you went to the head. Hes my favorite.
Because of his size and style he took more punishment than any other fighter I've ever seen he was amazing tough as they come with an iron jaw. He only knew one way to fight one style and he just kept coming no reverse gear lol. God rest his soul in peace
Frazier and Tyson in their prime would be an amazing contest
I can't believe I've never heard of quarry, what a warrior he was in thay fight with smokin Joe
I'd highly recommend looking into him! Most boxing fans and historians rank him as one of if not the best heavyweight to not win the title.
I remember watching this fight live on ABC 7 with my dad. My dad was for Ali but I was full on, without a doubt, a Frazier fan to the max. I told my dad before the fight, that Ali would go down once before the fight was over from a left hook. Well, history speaks for itself, because Ali did go down from several vicious left hook. I was hoopin' and hollarin' as my dad got madder and madder at me. hahahaha. My dad couldn't believe that anyone could knock Ali out or down, but Frazier did and it was a beautiful shot. I was so happy that night, and very proud of my little 9 year old self. lol. Frazier was relentless ( always coming forward no matter what or who was in front of him). He hated Ali for the things he said about him after helping Ali stay afloat (broke ass) before his come back. Joe felt betrayed and he should have, after all the nasty things Ali said about him in press conferences. I remember the things Ali said and it really pissed me off. Even as a 9 year old kid, i could decipher between what was good sportsmanship, as opposed to the evil, wicked, vicious and disgusting remarks made by Ali, Joe wasn't expecting Ali to go as far as he did, crossing a line, by saying the things he did, after doing what he did for Ali. He took it deeply personal and that's how he fought and BEAT Ali, the first time. He was not to be stopped and it showed. RIP, Frazier. You were my favorite and always will be "SMOKIN' JOE".
Ali was trash as human
Joe Frazier is one of those fighters that all students of Boxing should study intently.
The footage available is ahhhhhhhhmazing. An honor to be able to watch this footage.
Joe's performance in that first Ali fight, is arguably the best performance ever in Heavyweight history. Ali was never beating Joe, that night.
THANK YOU SO MUCH for doing my all time favorite boxer Smokin' Joe!!! Rhythm Boxing makes the best boxing videos on UA-cam or anywhere else. Period.
Joe Frazier one of the best infighters in boxing !
He goes fishing with an uppercut and winds up with a hook on the cheek."
Wordsmith.
Joe had a lot of disdvantages only 6 foot =182 centimeters and a right eye that was almost blind and a left arm which he could not stretch and still he was a true heavy weight worldchampion , if Joe was 4 inches=10 cm taller he would have destroyed all his opponents, every single one of them , what a true MAN he was !!!
I met him as a 10 year old after his boxing career was done. I still do not know how anyone could have hurt him. He was do unbelievably thick and just as kind with me...
He doesn't even look 205 pounds in that busters fight
He prolly lied to get the fight with that big man
What a Legend !? Rip Smoking Joe💯❤️🙏🏽🕊️
The narration fit the video footage of this in absolute perfection 💯.
OUTSTANDING 🥊🥊🥊!!!
I love Joe Frazier! He is a hero of boxing and deserves to be remembered for that! A small slice of his heroism was Jerry Quarry. Quarry fought EVERYBODY that was anybody in the heavyweight division. Quarry fought Floyd Patterson, twice. Fought Joe Frazier himself, twice! Muhammad Ali, twice. That is how tough Quarry was and how special Joe Frazier was to beat a man like that!
I really like the fact that Joe Frazier didn’t try to make excuses and just dealt with whatever was in front of him. Head on as if his life depended on it. He literally boxed angry with devastating results. Also him beating down disrespectful Ali is the cherry on top
Quarry and Frazier was a dream fight. They were tailor made for one another.