Personally I think it's also very possible that Dragon is actually Xebec's son and Luffy's mother was/is a Monkey D. as Garp never called Dragon his son but rather said "your father" to Luffy many many years ago when they first met after a long time.
What Rocks and Luffy does are pretty similar if you look at it from the WGs point of view. They have both declared war on the WG and have done stuff that would be considered terrorist acts. The key difference is Morgans showing Luffy in a good light. I am pretty sure many stuff we know about Rocks is pure propoganda by the WG since conveniently we heard nearly everything from the Marines and the old pirates in his crew do not talk about him. It would be infinitely more interesting if his crew actually saw Rocks as a Joyboy candidate and the one that would bring the dawn before he went somewhat misled by whatever he had learned about the truth of the world. I think he was a sort of proto-Pirate King who knew the truth of the world and most importantly Imu and he took the steps to change the world. Even him wanting to become the King of the World implies that he is aware of the existence of a King of the World (Imu). The main difference probably was that Roger and Luffy had the innate ability to gather allies wherever they go while Rocks went the full force way and wanted to replace Imu to bring the change he desired. I did write this comment before I watched the video so we'll see how much our ideas matched :)
I believe that Rocks having Whitebeard on his crew means a lot just knowing the type of person Whitebeard was. That's the true hidden gem. Why would he join Rocks holding the morals that he did? He is all about family and forgiveness
Man I've had this same issue this whole time. Like the rest of them fit. But white beard doesn't. He would have known about roger why would he not have joined him knowing his crew was decent in comparison
@SmEiF- it could be that Rocks had a Luffy like quality of being able to make allies of the worst pirates and I believe that was through possibly having a similar dream to Roger and Luffy. This could also tie in to Shanks motives and personality.
What if we just haven’t heard much of WB’s previous mindset… maybe he used to be more of a negative person and seeing the type of crew that Rocks became made him never want that again
It would be really badass if Rocks ends up being a prisoner held somewhere in Mariejois. I think this might be your strongest theory yet. Rocks being a good guy is something that hasn't ever crossed my mind and I'm actually mad now seeing the signs lol. This would be perfectly in line with everything that's been set up. I wonder if Xebec had a Devil Fruit or if he was just a Haki monster.
Thanks John, I'm glad you liked it. I think Rocks being a good guy is more likely than him being a bad guy, because of who it is that paints him as a bad guy and it would be consistent with Roger and Luffy. One thing that makes One piece is so good is that nothing is ever black and white you have to take the nuances into account. I think he definitely had a devil fruit tho
Anyone ever notice how the Xebec black and white pic looks like he is holding on to a person? The white spot on the left that is his hair looks like a little arm with a sleeve.
that makes sense Rocks was a hero. it has already been stated in the series millions of times that "heroes" can be labelled as "villains" and vice versa.
If Rocks was alive today, he'd be too old to do anything much more unless he is such a Haki Monster like Garp that being kept in Mariejois didnt matter. But I'd rather like the idea more that Rocks really is dead, he aint coming back, but the way he was painted was wrong and that he was actually a hero trying to liberate the world away from Imu and the dastardly world government that doesn't want anyone to know their entire existence. It's just wild. I'd hope to god that by the end of it all; that we see Luffy and Shanks topple this corrupt system down .
I think it would be very iconic if Luffy at the end war with the WG is with a Rocks parallel type of team with his owns times counterparts all being on his side: Luffy (Rocks), Law (Whitebeard), Shiki (Kidd), Bonney (Big Mom), Hancock (Shakky), Kaido (Momonosuke), Captain John (Buggy), Miss Bakkin (Stussy) And the Strawhats crew being the counterparts of Roger's crews which would be like Roger and Rocks teaming up against the WG instead of fighting.
I’ve actually been tossing around and leaning towards this idea of Rocks just being another form of the will of D told in the eyes of the victor: the govt. they’re already saying Luffy’s evil for attacking Egghead/ painting a bad picture of the reality. The point about MLK and Malcom X really hit that point home.
Rocks bounty will not have been issued as high because that would mean they would have to acknowledge rocks existence. He was cancelled for a reason and his bounty won't have been increased too much. Buggy will be who's connected to rocks along with dragon.
Given that Shakky was the former ruler of the Amazon Lily based off the Greek Amazon tribe of female warriors I believe she is based off the mythical Greek empress of Penthesilea who carried a big axe I believe that she worked on the Rocks Crew as Silver Axe. Furthermore in myths she is the daughter of Ares because of this I believe she is the daughter of the Mars gorosei and this how Xebec learnt of God Valley.
I always said Rocks was either a necessary evil or a secret hero who turned or maybe the government twisted who he really was as they tend to do,he may have found the One Piece first and instead or waiting like Roger he too action,which goes back to Martin n Malcom
I love this theory! The parallel with censorship really drives the thought across. Now I am pretty sure Xebec was one of the good ones! (In his own way lol)
Bro, this is officially your second best video on the channel after that 1 hour theory video I would have watched this video earlier, but my sister had a birthday and the guests just arrived when you released the video, but it doesn't matter. I can't wait for the second part, I have high expectations, but since I've been watching you, you've never disappointed me, so I know it's going to be great
I appreciate you bro as always coming in clutch with the support and I’m glad you enjoyed it! The Part 2 might not be for a little while because I’m still working on the script but in the meantime I got other fire theory and analysis videos and power scaling of course coming to the channel. But when that Part 2 drops trust me it’ll be better than this one! Thanks for your support as always brother and happy birthday to your sister!
@@natureboyOP I always support quality youtubers It doesn't matter, it's worth the wait, release it when it's perfect, you don't have to rush My sister thanks you
Deffinitely think there is more to the Rocks story than we know. I think we got what is told to Navy at the time which is clearly not the truth. I wonder if Garp and Roger witnessed the power of the Gorosie or Uma which had to be covered up. Perhaps this is why Garp stays in Navy and may be a head of SWORD and lead Roger to seek out Laugh Tale.
- Xebec + imu = shanks Xebec tried to rescue imu but failed and framed by the WG that he wants to be king of the world. - Maybe the WG doesnt want imu to be taken away because she is the next candidate to be rule the WG. 🤷♀️🤔🤷♀️
I find it interesting that Caribou looks eerily similar to Rocks D Xebec’s silhouette. So does Dragon. Same goes with Killer. He looks like Shiki the Lion. Both Xebec’s and killers face are always masked. Even when killer fights Zoro in Wano without his mask, he still has bandages wrapped around his face and head so we never get to see what’s truly underneath. Clones? Offspring? The original? ??? There’s something going on.
Both Roger and Garp fought together to stop Rocks. That means what ever Rocks was doing, neither the freest man, nor the government agreed with whatever he was trying to do. Maybe like akainu goes too far for justice. Maybe Rocks goes to far for freedom? Is that even possible?
That’s definitely possible but it was long before Roger was even close to being pirate king. And Garp hates talking about that moment. I honestly think they regret taking down Rocks or at the very least just wish he didn’t have to go after the slaves as well then maybe he’d be more justified
one piece episode 437 in the first secne there was a frozen man who looks like xebec and the prisoned guy said : "he maybe died or keept frozen for the future
Dude! Nature boy! I have beeeeen trying to say rocks was actually a hero surrounded by people who had bad dreams and he failed as a result Because luffys crew all has honorable dreams that can work in times of peace While from what weave seen from rocks crew, they all had dreams that only worked during the governments dusk, and not in the new romance dawn
What if rocks new about IMUs fruit instead of taking control the will of IMU fruit consuming him. Just like job boy, the world gov gorasei knew IMU would return
Does anyone believe rocks was a former user of the Yami Yami no mi? I thinking blackbeard found out about it by finding some way to study rocks and his history
ngl for being the nature boy you got surprisingly little nature visible in your Vids. I mean even Tekking has a Plant. Go record a vid in the forest fr😂
Oda did work closely with the producers for that film. But either way I think Rocks Shiki and God Valley will all make a return to the story in real time
rocks wanted ims job huh? then ironically? the baby the "victors" found grows up to be present for the demise of 3 former rocks pirates all yonko even if it's Mr world wide peace shanks, seems more like 5 old men are my captains, what be thy bidding, sir uranus?
14:51 is more relevant than ever now after yesterdays chapter lol
Another example is Nolan the liar. A true good person who tried to help the shandians but he's tarnished throughout history.
Personally I think it's also very possible that Dragon is actually Xebec's son and Luffy's mother was/is a Monkey D. as Garp never called Dragon his son but rather said "your father" to Luffy many many years ago when they first met after a long time.
What Rocks and Luffy does are pretty similar if you look at it from the WGs point of view. They have both declared war on the WG and have done stuff that would be considered terrorist acts. The key difference is Morgans showing Luffy in a good light. I am pretty sure many stuff we know about Rocks is pure propoganda by the WG since conveniently we heard nearly everything from the Marines and the old pirates in his crew do not talk about him.
It would be infinitely more interesting if his crew actually saw Rocks as a Joyboy candidate and the one that would bring the dawn before he went somewhat misled by whatever he had learned about the truth of the world. I think he was a sort of proto-Pirate King who knew the truth of the world and most importantly Imu and he took the steps to change the world. Even him wanting to become the King of the World implies that he is aware of the existence of a King of the World (Imu).
The main difference probably was that Roger and Luffy had the innate ability to gather allies wherever they go while Rocks went the full force way and wanted to replace Imu to bring the change he desired.
I did write this comment before I watched the video so we'll see how much our ideas matched :)
I believe that Rocks having Whitebeard on his crew means a lot just knowing the type of person Whitebeard was. That's the true hidden gem. Why would he join Rocks holding the morals that he did? He is all about family and forgiveness
Man I've had this same issue this whole time. Like the rest of them fit. But white beard doesn't. He would have known about roger why would he not have joined him knowing his crew was decent in comparison
@SmEiF- it could be that Rocks had a Luffy like quality of being able to make allies of the worst pirates and I believe that was through possibly having a similar dream to Roger and Luffy. This could also tie in to Shanks motives and personality.
Same here. Ive always seen Pops as kind of a mis-match. Shaki as well.
What if we just haven’t heard much of WB’s previous mindset… maybe he used to be more of a negative person and seeing the type of crew that Rocks became made him never want that again
@Beatsify I hear you but what could have been the motive for a 180 change in WB. That reason keeps eluding me
Rocks:
,,Aight me mateys we gonna become the greatest heroes ever..."
The crew:
,,Yo wtf"
Rocks:
,,...BY RULING THE WORLD!!!"
Outta all the UA-camrs I view, you’re the first who’s finally said this. THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY THEORY
It would be really badass if Rocks ends up being a prisoner held somewhere in Mariejois.
I think this might be your strongest theory yet. Rocks being a good guy is something that hasn't ever crossed my mind and I'm actually mad now seeing the signs lol. This would be perfectly in line with everything that's been set up.
I wonder if Xebec had a Devil Fruit or if he was just a Haki monster.
Thanks John, I'm glad you liked it.
I think Rocks being a good guy is more likely than him being a bad guy, because of who it is that paints him as a bad guy and it would be consistent with Roger and Luffy.
One thing that makes One piece is so good is that nothing is ever black and white you have to take the nuances into account. I think he definitely had a devil fruit tho
I think he had a specific devil fruit since his crew consisted all devil fruit eaters,similar to how shanks has a crew of non devil fruit eaters
Idk man the fact that roger and garp worked together tells me he was probably the most evil guy out there
Anyone ever notice how the Xebec black and white pic looks like he is holding on to a person? The white spot on the left that is his hair looks like a little arm with a sleeve.
that makes sense Rocks was a hero. it has already been stated in the series millions of times that "heroes" can be labelled as "villains" and vice versa.
If Rocks was alive today, he'd be too old to do anything much more unless he is such a Haki Monster like Garp that being kept in Mariejois didnt matter. But I'd rather like the idea more that Rocks really is dead, he aint coming back, but the way he was painted was wrong and that he was actually a hero trying to liberate the world away from Imu and the dastardly world government that doesn't want anyone to know their entire existence. It's just wild. I'd hope to god that by the end of it all; that we see Luffy and Shanks topple this corrupt system down .
I think it would be very iconic if Luffy at the end war with the WG is with a Rocks parallel type of team with his owns times counterparts all being on his side: Luffy (Rocks), Law (Whitebeard), Shiki (Kidd), Bonney (Big Mom), Hancock (Shakky), Kaido (Momonosuke), Captain John (Buggy), Miss Bakkin (Stussy)
And the Strawhats crew being the counterparts of Roger's crews which would be like Roger and Rocks teaming up against the WG instead of fighting.
I like that a lot
@@natureboyOP Do you have a discord to share theories?
@@Cornexium Not yet I’m very unfamiliar with how discord works still. But I have my own discord you can dm if you’d like natureboy#4917
I’ve actually been tossing around and leaning towards this idea of Rocks just being another form of the will of D told in the eyes of the victor: the govt. they’re already saying Luffy’s evil for attacking Egghead/ painting a bad picture of the reality. The point about MLK and Malcom X really hit that point home.
Thanks Morgan and yeah with what we know about how the WG operates in One Piece it’s very possible it went down like that
Rocks bounty will not have been issued as high because that would mean they would have to acknowledge rocks existence. He was cancelled for a reason and his bounty won't have been increased too much.
Buggy will be who's connected to rocks along with dragon.
Given that Shakky was the former ruler of the Amazon Lily based off the Greek Amazon tribe of female warriors I believe she is based off the mythical Greek empress of Penthesilea who carried a big axe I believe that she worked on the Rocks Crew as Silver Axe. Furthermore in myths she is the daughter of Ares because of this I believe she is the daughter of the Mars gorosei and this how Xebec learnt of God Valley.
Very interesting theory!
Omg. Her as Silver Axe is amazing
I always said Rocks was either a necessary evil or a secret hero who turned or maybe the government twisted who he really was as they tend to do,he may have found the One Piece first and instead or waiting like Roger he too action,which goes back to Martin n Malcom
Yeah that’s the general feeling I get from his character. It’s not like the WG are a trustworthy organization to begin with
I love this theory! The parallel with censorship really drives the thought across. Now I am pretty sure Xebec was one of the good ones! (In his own way lol)
Thanks Dylan! I’m glad you enjoyed it and I’m glad I could offer a new perspective into Rocks
Awesome content I just subscribed keep it up
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Bro, this is officially your second best video on the channel
after that 1 hour theory video
I would have watched this video earlier, but my sister had a birthday and the guests just arrived when you released the video, but it doesn't matter.
I can't wait for the second part, I have high expectations, but since I've been watching you, you've never disappointed me, so I know it's going to be great
I appreciate you bro as always coming in clutch with the support and I’m glad you enjoyed it!
The Part 2 might not be for a little while because I’m still working on the script but in the meantime I got other fire theory and analysis videos and power scaling of course coming to the channel. But when that Part 2 drops trust me it’ll be better than this one!
Thanks for your support as always brother and happy birthday to your sister!
@@natureboyOP I always support quality youtubers
It doesn't matter, it's worth the wait, release it when it's perfect, you don't have to rush
My sister thanks you
@@MirisljaviTvor 🙏🏾
Deffinitely think there is more to the Rocks story than we know. I think we got what is told to Navy at the time which is clearly not the truth. I wonder if Garp and Roger witnessed the power of the Gorosie or Uma which had to be covered up. Perhaps this is why Garp stays in Navy and may be a head of SWORD and lead Roger to seek out Laugh Tale.
- Xebec + imu = shanks
Xebec tried to rescue imu but failed and framed by the WG that he wants to be king of the world.
- Maybe the WG doesnt want imu to be taken away because she is the next candidate to be rule the WG.
🤷♀️🤔🤷♀️
Awesome as always
My boy Blanchard! Appreciate you
@@natureboyOP you welcome anytime
There is no anime that can give me goosebumps as much as one piece. It's number 1 to me
Easily number 1
Shiki is plotting something
I find it interesting that Caribou looks eerily similar to Rocks D Xebec’s silhouette.
So does Dragon.
Same goes with Killer. He looks like Shiki the Lion.
Both Xebec’s and killers face are always masked. Even when killer fights Zoro in Wano without his mask, he still has bandages wrapped around his face and head so we never get to see what’s truly underneath. Clones? Offspring? The original? ???
There’s something going on.
Interesting point, I never thought of that before
Both Roger and Garp fought together to stop Rocks. That means what ever Rocks was doing, neither the freest man, nor the government agreed with whatever he was trying to do. Maybe like akainu goes too far for justice. Maybe Rocks goes to far for freedom? Is that even possible?
That’s definitely possible but it was long before Roger was even close to being pirate king. And Garp hates talking about that moment.
I honestly think they regret taking down Rocks or at the very least just wish he didn’t have to go after the slaves as well then maybe he’d be more justified
one piece episode 437 in the first secne there was a frozen man who looks like xebec and the prisoned guy said : "he maybe died or keept frozen for the future
Usually theories are far fetched or stupid. This one rocks (get it?)
Nicely done 😂
Dude! Nature boy!
I have beeeeen trying to say rocks was actually a hero surrounded by people who had bad dreams and he failed as a result
Because luffys crew all has honorable dreams that can work in times of peace
While from what weave seen from rocks crew, they all had dreams that only worked during the governments dusk, and not in the new romance dawn
Yeah and they all had selfish dreams except Whitebeard and most likely Rocks himself. Well said bro!
What if rocks new about IMUs fruit instead of taking control the will of IMU fruit consuming him. Just like job boy, the world gov gorasei knew IMU would return
Does anyone believe rocks was a former user of the Yami Yami no mi? I thinking blackbeard found out about it by finding some way to study rocks and his history
it could be possible
ngl for being the nature boy you got surprisingly little nature visible in your Vids. I mean even Tekking has a Plant. Go record a vid in the forest fr😂
Lmfao 😂 I’m dead
Great
If that's the case, Rocks may be Previous user of Nika fruit.
Could be
Gorosei said they havent found the fruit in 800 years cant be rocks
Broooo why does everyone says “Rocks is dead, at least Sengoku says he is..”😂 like no one believes Rocks is dead 1:17
Amazing analysis
Thank you!
This makes perfect sense
I’m glad you enjoyed it
@@natureboyOP started going down the rabbit hole like I did with ohara
Great example my guy
Thank you
What if Rocks was actual Rocks
I know Strong World isn't cannon but what if the floating island is God Valley?
Oda did work closely with the producers for that film. But either way I think Rocks Shiki and God Valley will all make a return to the story in real time
ROCKS IS LUFFY GRANDPA
Nice theory
Thank you!
ROCKs could be Garp's Cousin or Brother, and the true father of Dragon...
Nah bro, garp himself tell that luffy is the child of his child.
I also think maybe rocks is previous Yami yami no mi user
It’s very likely
this is wrong rocks just had ptsd and was on that chopper shit
Rock was manipulated by shiki
Buggy’s son
This whole video has s just…. damn
Rocks is joyboy
Imagine why garp saved celestial dragons at god valley while we all know he hates them the most🤔
Exactly
He was very young at that time n didn't knew much
rocks wanted ims job huh?
then ironically? the baby the "victors" found grows up to be present for the demise of 3 former rocks pirates all yonko even if it's Mr world wide peace shanks, seems more like 5 old men are my captains, what be thy bidding, sir uranus?
Nature boy you lowkey resemble my older brother are you Somali?
I am lol
@@natureboyOP Great video bro Ramadan Mubarak
i feel like im the only one who thinks imu is a girl
Most likely that’s the case
The more I listen to this, the more it's like Andrew Tate's situation right now.
This happens everyday in the real world
what