The NIER: AUTOMATA ANIME Deserved Better | Animation Spotlight
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2023
- Canipa breaks his hiatus to talk about how sad he is about NieR: Automata Ver 1.1a's hiatus.
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Sources and Further Reading:
Answerman that compiles info on Winter delays - www.animenewsnetwork.com/answ...
Tomohiko Ito talking about struggles in the anime industry (including at A-1 Pictures) www.dailyshincho.jp/article/2...
Thread from SakugaBlog's Kvin running down Wonder Egg Priority's similar production issues: / 1410396850025340932
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Intro:
Animated by Christian Maize (@CookieficationJ)
Music by Steven Kelly (@Sarifus)
Produced for The Canipa Effect
Anime series featured in this video (chronologically):
NieR: Automata Ver 1.1a
The Detective is Already Dead
The Seven Deadly Sins
Tomo-chan is a Girl!
Persona 5: The Animation
Maquia: When the Promised Flower Blooms
86
Mirai
Ayakashi Triangle
UniteUp
The Misfit of Demon King Academy 2
Saekano: How to Raise a Boring Girlfriend
Lycoris Recoil
Sword Art Online
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
Music:
Copied City
Memories of Dust (Medium) (Instrumental)
Alien Manifestation (Instrumental)
Weight of the World (FFXIV Instrumental)
All footage is used for the purpose of review and is fair use. - Фільми й анімація
I'm back! This one's less research-heavy than my usual work and it was meant to be a kind of inbetweener video released in March where I talk through how sad I am about the NieR: Automata anime. But then I got really busy, outsourced all the editing, and thankfully I still got it out faster than NieR episode 9!
But yeah, we're back on track! I refuse to become one of those people who's like "I used to make UA-cam videos but then I grew up and got a real job"! I can do both! I've got some free time, I'm working with new editors, and I'm ready to talk about anime that actually makes me happy - aka Heavenly Delusion. As always, a massive, massive thanks to the Canipa Effect patreons who are paying for these videos to get edited. It's a process that I've been really overprotective of in the past, but I think they both did an amazing job!
The more I hear about how fucked up anime industry is, the more I love Kyoto Animation studio.
Kyoto animation is still the best working environment in the industry. Ufotable is a close second unless they end up like a1 and shaft because of evilplex
@@catlike9444 ain't no way ufotable has better working conditions for workers considering how good the quality is
@CJ they do, the way thier environment works plus overall less projects that doesn't forces them outsource their work like other studios, (mappa) and the studio itself is laid out in such a way that everyone their can have better teamwork and connections. That's in house studios for you
@@catlike9444 Why single out mappa as if they are the only one to do heavy outsourcing, when it's a practically an industry common? Hell, mappa hasn't really done a fully outsourced episode in a while aside from one Vinland Saga episode done at Geno studio.
@Carlos Cauan true it's most common for studio that are not in house or are very overworked
I guess you can say the anime staff was carrying "The weight of the world" while adapting Nier
The 3D models weren't created by A1 Pictues, only the small robots and Pascal were, and they look really good, the 3D models were carried over from the game, that's why they look super weird, basically they were told to port the 3D models from thegame and not edit them at all, like not do any cell shading.
How do you Know?
The only thing I wanted more from the show was more day-to-day moments that we didn't get to see in the game.
Ep8 was really good for that. I really don't see how they're gonna cover the rest of the game though. (Unless it really was meant to be 24 eps)
@@TheCanipaEffect I think it's meant to be 26 eps? I'm purely basing on the fact that the puppet show adapt the endings from the game and there's 26 endings lol
@@TheCanipaEffect Ok ok ok hear me out: NieR with Houseki No Kuni-like animation and a work environment like Kyoto Animations.(mentioned in the comments)
@@myusername3689 I wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiish!
@@TheCanipaEffect
Even with 26 episodes it seems like rushing through the game's plot. (I'll try to avoid spoilers) but
So far we've had
Episode 1: Prologue/Intro mission
Episode 2: The City Ruins, Resistance and Plato
Episode 3: The Desert and Adam
Episode 4: The Theme Park and Beauvoir
Episode 5: Pascal's village
Episode 6: YoRHa Stage Play/Manga adaptation
Episode 7: The Forest Kingdom and A2
Episode 8: The Flooded City but no Grun (yet at least)
My speculation, hopes and fears for the rest of the half season/Cour and Cour 2
Episode 9: Search for 9S and The Copied City
Episode 10: Kierkegaard and the Factory Cult
Episode 11: A certain someone using Grun as a Mech instead of the multilegged goliath like in the game.
Episode 12: Sunken City, Ending A/B.
Episode 13: Start of Route C and the Bridge scene (from 9S's perspective)
End of Cour 1
Episode 14: The Descent and Bridge scene (from 2B's perspective)
Episode 15: The Desert and Hegel
Episode 16: A2 reunites with Lily, YoRHa stage play continued (from A2's perspective, showing more of A4 and explaining how A2 survived)
Episode 17: The Meat Box
Episode 18: The Soul Box
Episode 19: Memory Cage and Memory Thorn adaptations (9S's nightmares thanks to hacking into Emil allowing him to re-live memories of previous lives)
Episode 20: The God Box
Episode 21: The Tower
Episode 22: The Terminals
Episode 23: Ending C This is where things get weird, they can't really have both C and D, but I expect something,
Episode 24: Ending D again, they have to choose one, or make something completely new.
Episode 25: Ending E might not be enough material for an entire episode based on this part
Episode 26: Concert Epilogue Adaptation (With the True Ending that was actually voiced on stage, not the fake ending from the script)
Still seems too rushed to me, I don't think there's enough time in 26 episodes to really capture NieR Automata, and they didn't give the studios enough time to even make the best anime they could with that runtime, Especially with what they were seemingly forced to do to the Flight Units.
Glad the 86 comparison got brought up. Ishii may have managed to mask some episodes with raw artistic talent, but it's sad it had to come to that.
A shame that Aniplex didn't allow them to do what they wanted to with the show with a better schedule...
It's remarkable how well they have managed to make the anime, despite the limitations. Many anime with poor production schedule won't even be half as good if not for the staff working on the project!
ANIPLEX common L
Feels like Re Zero, shenanigans, but the staff loves the project and tries their best. Imagine if things went very smothly.
I am scared for the anime industry. It seems like as time passes on, the people working behind it that actually care are getting stretched so thin due to the production companies incompitence to make a good schedule for animators, directors and artists across the medium to make high quality products.
I think it's mostly just shitty companies like ANIPLEX. Others have their own misses and hits (The best one is TWIN ENGINE)
@@user-og6pb6dd5p the best one is EGG Firm so far.
@@mohamedmaher5511 What is that company?
This is the case for basically every industry right now. Seems like this with almost everything.
@@user-og6pb6dd5pit's the company producing Mushoku Tensei. Idk how they're the best but they sure aren't angels.
I actually like the anime, and episode 2,4, and 8 were really spectacular to me. But i understand your issues because they are real.
I just hope the anime comes back stronger with more time given to the creators because its obvious this ending will be different.
Also the slower episodes are slick awesome too. Like....idk i like it, i jsut want to finish it.
It seems clear theyll have covered most of the story by like..... episode 15 so im curious how the last third of the season will be.
i'm about to watch it cuz it's only 8 episodes. Is it good?
@@potatomatop9326 I think it's good, but this video is accurate in its criticism. I'm hoping the second half will have had more time taken. But dude def watch if you've played the game, because it's def good and it's clearly a different timeline 😆
@@YungGokuOver Been looking at this, Demon Slayer, Spy X, Chainsaw and Ranking of Kings. Ranking seems to be the most balanced one when it comes to length and i'm looking for this 90's ps1 jrpg/adventure feeling...
@@potatomatop9326A lot of reviewers are deliberately looking for flaws as they have to. Also, they have seen a ton of stuff which makes them aware of a lot of minor details which we don't notice. If you are new to anime, this is a really good watch in my honest opinion.
As someone who has not played the game , I honestly have been really enjoying this anime and am looking forward for it to return
play the game. you're robbing yourself of a unique experience in a medium far better than TV anime
@@3babylon3
Nah, for now the anime has better writing.
@@idk-ye7urthat’s insane
Why would you watch the anime when it is a sequel to the game, without having played the game?
How many delays are it gonna take for aniplex to simply change their model? Literal definition of insanity
Yo Ty!
@@chromafirehello sakif
@@lowdistortion Didn't expect to find your comment on a Canipa video.
@@chromafire I've been subbed for a long while now. Ever since his video on you know who 😅
@@lowdistortion 😂
Thanks for the video man. Companies like ANIPLEX (specially ANIPLEX), kadokawa, kondansha etc...are destroying the anime industry. Btw a suggestion, will you ever do a video about TWIN ENGINE and their way of management? And basically the EOTA studio for their Small to average subsidairy studios and the way of Marketing?
Yeah it's really really stupid and greedy to the core. My biggest fear is what's aniplex next victim if a1 gose out. Please not ufotable.
@@Mika2ndlife lol
@@catlike9444 ufo is in the production committee. So i don't think if there is any problem, it will be Extreme or Something
@@Mika2ndlife not Really man. I Don't know much. Btw i actually 90 percent of the things from these channels and also canipa. Sometimes when I'm interested in Something (like TWIN ENGINE plan), i will read the article about it (but mostly I'm not interested, I'm lazy to do it🗿). Or a few good leakers.
@@Mika2ndlife i can say TWIN ENGINE is probably the best company in production committees compared to others. Btw both bugfilms and kafka are their subsidairies. Same with colorido studio and geno
I'm glad my sequence made the cut as the "15 seconds of 2b swishing her sword"
Good to have you back!!
When the first episode aired and it was a near replicant (this is a bar) of the prologue of Automata I feel like people really overreacted. We knew from what was said before, and was announced before its airing that it would not just be the game's story slapped on TV. The anime was good, faithful, and original... However....... As this video so beautifully points out, so very very disappointing and unfortunate... I hope it somehow recovers and surprises everyone with the remainder.
This company having the rights of twisted wonderland scares me because I'm really looking forward to the anime but being under these guys I fear it will suffer the same destiny
So ... question.
Has there been any news about when the Automata anime continues?
It would be really cool to see it come back at june, now that the new anime season begins
I was so excited for both this anime and "Misfit of Demon King Academy”. I’ve dropped both; I’m not waiting indefinitely for new episodes.
ANIPLEX is cancer
I like this anime, it is beautiful. I recently subscribed to your channel! Also it's great that your own mum supports your channel. That's great man! Does she give you some great ideals about anime and making UA-cam videos? This is awesome man.
Nah, she just thought it would be funny and then never unsubscribed lol. I think of it as still receiving pocket money, even though I'm 27.
@@TheCanipaEffect Well she must enjoy your videos and anime!
This was an unexpected topic, but really glad that you've decided to talk about Nier Automata, probably one of my biggest disappointment of this year...
Last thing I heard is ep 9 is back on the air on 23/7.
Nier Automata is one of the most stylish and best animated games out there. It's a masterpiece.
The anime absolutely does not do it justice. Like it's not BAD, but it's certainly not GOOD.
Hold up. No. No that's not- there is no way that flight suit was modeled in house.
I have ripped the model from the game.
I have thrown it in blender with a base light.
It looks *exactly* the same.
Maybe the Simone Model was in house
The robots were definitely made in house.
But that flight suit had to be ripped from the game.
It's in-house and im pretty sure they
producers of nier had a livestream where they literally discussed their process of making it look "closely" to the game.....
It's really depressing how aniplex is screwing over a1 pictures 😢
And cloverworks
Cloverworks is probably one of the best modern studios. It's Crazy What they do evne under ANIPLEX
@A1000 cloverworks is pretty good but I have a lack of trust, just me through because it's very hard to forget what happened to tpn s2 because no info came that explained what the hell happened
@@catlike9444 I don't think you can really pin anything that happened to Promised Neverland's story on CloverWorks. It was likely either Shueisha or Aniplex that tried to push foward for an original story for whatever reason. Specially considering the manga's author Kaiu was also responsible in writing the season.
@Carlos Cauan oh okay but why do similar events happen with wonder egg priority and shadow house or are those aniplex reasons as well.
They will release episodes 9 to 12 at the end of July... they are calling them thr final episodes of Season 1, when it was inititially 24 episodes of a stand alone series
Seeing this i want to know your thaughts on Heavenly Delusion thats airing this season, its a show with proper production time and has put production IG back on the track after haikyu for me
You're in luck! That's what I'm making next.
@@TheCanipaEffect Can't wait
@@catlike9444 yea
Me too!!
@@Parshwa_Nathwanithey were always doing great things tho (not fell off as some Geniuses says), but usually it won't get much popular
@@user-og6pb6dd5p it's not like they fell off but they didn't shine either, all of their productions didn't have that charm you know, like it just attracts you and not storyvise but visually
I loved the anime. I feel like a lot of the criticisms are nitpicky. I especially liked the episode with Lily/A2's past. I really hope they successfully release the second season.
For me, I never play the game before. But when I watch the anime version of Nier Automata series I instantly fall in love with it. At least I can re-watch the episode of the Nier Automata.
It looks like they just released the final 4 episodes at once but it is also getting a second cour at least. It's not like the show itself was bad. I only watched up to episode 3 or so but the background work, the level to detail to the games were pretty great. Just its schedule was severely messed up.
Would you say a similar issue was present with the Shenmue anime? I think that was one of the better video game based anime that we've gotten.
This video make me wonder if you ever going to make video about Black Clover? Like seriously the story about the production issues of that series is kinda infuriating and inspiring at the same time
While I really enjoy the NieR Automata anime for what it is and its effort to incorporate story elements not included in the game, the hiatus on its production really zaps the momentum this version of the story should have. Aspects of the anime feel more lively and the unexpected differences and references were an absolute treat. The episode depicting the Pearl Harbor descent mission was a definite stand out, and episode 8 ending on a cliffhanger that was legitimately creepy was a cool experience. It's just a shame that the genuine effort being put in to capture the essence of the game and even expand on it in certain ways is completely overshadowed by the delays. My hope is that we'll get more episodes because the anime, even as it is now, still has potential to be something special but it's hard to know if this anime will be able to get its feet off the ground at this point. I hope it does. NieR Automata is one of my favorites stories in general, and seeing it as an anime really was a treat. Seeing the nods toward side quests, certain weapon stories, and the way they're trying to combine route A and B into one was exciting. As you said in this video, it wasn't just a rehashing of the game. It felt like it had new things to say but it simply couldn't get there fully. Too many outside factors are pulling it down, and I don't know if the anime is popular enough to withstand it. I hope that there's enough love for it that the production will pick back up and we can get the rest of the story in this format, but there's no way to really know right now and that's kinda sad. This anime definitely deserved better.
Thanks for the nice video! Best wishes and God bless you. :)
Will Metal Gear Risinig anime be possible?
is it so difficult to just make a show, complete a show and then release the show? if you stagger it by one season and plan ahead then you can still hit the release windows you want. there might be some reason why they cant do that, which might be a topic for a future video if you happen to know about it?
I wasn't expecting much from the animation and I got my hopes up for the story after episode 2 but the rest was just ok... and then it went on hiatus... twice.
in defense for the stiff animations during TALKING scenes. aniamation is hard and expensive. plain and simple. if you want smooth fight scenes, you need to cut corners. and what better way to cut time and money is to barely animate the scenes that don't need overtop or even any moevement at all, which is for the better considering how underpaid the animtors are. also the fact that simply, the more detailed the art style is = harder is to animate, case in point: castelvania. lots great animation, spliced in with some animation thats slightly more 'stiff' or barely moving.
Not gonna lie this reccommended analysis made me wish they adapted more of
The routes
My god, it’s been a while - eh, mate?
aside from episode 1's cgi, there were no issues with the series at all. when all 12 episodes are out, the hiatus issues will not matter in the slightest.
Im still waiting for the s2 of 86, tho that might never happen I guess :')
This was a fun anime. Too bad it didn't get the full treatment! And now we only get... what... 9 episodes?
8 episodes. It still didn't finished
I'm not entirely sure that these breaks aren't Yoko Taro using the anime industry itself to tell a story. Twisting the medium he's using to tell a story that fucks with your expectations is his specialty, after all.
The Nier anime could’ve been THE anime of the season, but instead it’s just another one.
I really hoped we'd get a lot of creative shots and scenes like, idk, messing with the colors and lightning.
But you know, the thing I hated to most this far is them reusing the ost from the game. Whats even the point of using the ost from the game if you're doing nothing with it, thats just lazy tbh.
And I mean it, using the songs without their original meaning and reasons to be in X place is an example of how to NOT implement original soundtrack in other media. Imagine using the force theme from star wars in a random scene just because... yes? same thing here.
I was absolutely blown away by the animation of episode one tbh
I was absolutely underwhelmed by the animation of episode one tbh
The first episode was by far the worst episode tbh
I always hear stuff about how some anime get delayed because they dont have time slots for anime.
Does.....japan not have their own streaming service? I've never heard western cartoons deal with that problem
I mean western cartoons are a bit worse in that regards since they’d just cancel the project if it doesn’t do well (like they did with shows like Pantheon and Inside Job)
I’d rather deal with delays than see a show get cancelled right off the bat.
@@Grudgebearer47 Yeah, but it's still another breed of incompetence when your show has only aired 3 episodes but you have to stop airing because the production was so rushed hardly anything was done
It did. But I laugh at all the blind fanboys who saw the initial trailer and thought otherwise, that it was already a masterpiece. I hope fans learn to judge the quality of an anime production better.
Fr, I was really worried about the anime and I was right to do so
Why do they not use the game's 3d models in the anime? It would save time and work, and still look good.
The 3d models can be cell-shaded, if the animators want a cartoony look.
Some anime have (like Persona 5), but it often involves a lot of conversion and adding details. Most game models are not meant to be seen as close as anime's are. And the rigs are often only suited for the motions they plan on doing in the game, not the other things they might use them for in an anime.
Yes.
Why is Tomo-chan catching strays?
Is there a reason anime productions air whilst still in production? Wouldn't it be better for everyone if the shows "went gold" like good games do before release? The quality would be higher, no risk of delays occuring if anything goes wrong, and just a healthier, less stressful working environment over all for the team.
Just greed. Like in the videogame industry.
Anime productions air between yearly seasons. They aren't like videogames where they can develop and release a game whenever they like, they have tight schedules and impossible deadlines they need to accomplish. Or else it doesn't make money
I understand that, so why not have your productions offset by a season, so that as the next season rolls around, the scheduled show only needs a final polish, and isn't in the middle of production. You would also avoid hiatus that last as long as a season does, like Nier is currently dealing with. Treat them like a film production. A film doesn't make it to the big screen until it's finished, and the little screen should be no different.
@@Jacob-yx7dt The problem you're ignoring at large here is that there's simply way too many anime being made at once, every single season you get around 40-50 anime being released, and animation studios by themselves don't have near the amount of staff needed to make them in time. Resulting in productions having to start late because their key staff is busy with something else, or just outsourcing to companies that are already occupied with outsourced works from other companies
@@Jacob-yx7dt because it’s a tv anime production that has to air at some point in a specific tv channel
The anime is the best video game adaption yet
I bet you never played the games, otherwise you wouldn't say that.
@@tuikyo What a dumb comment.
The anime perfectly adapts the game and changes things to make a new story
@@novustalks7525 "To make a new story". I'll leave it at that, you clearly have no idea about this franchise.
@@tuikyo Unlike you I'm a massive fan of nier. Don't comment unless you actually have something of worth to say
@@novustalks7525 I played every Drakengard and NieR game, read all the sidematerial and watched all the stageplays. You probably don't even know what branches are that the anime is referring to indirectly all the time.
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So fucking frustrated with what happened with this anime…I’m sure yoko taro is pissed, and likely will NEVER deal with the anime side of Sony again.
The story of Nier Automata and all its elements shouldn't be learn about through an anime but the only the game itself in my opinion, it's even sadder that they messed up the production itself
It once again comes back to a studio having poor production management.
He literally said ANIPLEX. Are you saying the Studio?
I feel bad video game adaptations have been around almost as long as Japan has been making games.
I think it was too much of a quota to complete due to the management and it shows like still frames are too common and even if there was action, it was all over in a minute or less
And I still waiting for the return of chadnos...and still nothing
I agree with animation cgi was very awkward
Ahh So the full-time UA-cam experiment didn't work out then.😢 Good luck
What happened to Nier is exactly what I expected in video game adaptation. Can be great but strive for mediocrity. They should just listened to Yoko Taro and make an original story as all video game adaptation except for VN is just average to bad by following the game story as it's never meant to be.
So are you completely ignoring that the point of this video is talking about the series' production issues, and not that the adaptation itself is terribly made? I don't know where this "strive for mediocrity" point comes from when the staf is actively trying to make it interesting, but can't because of said issues.
@@carloscauan7967 You completely ignoring the fact that by following to game story is the reasons why the production issue happened in the first place and the best part of the anime is the few original content that's in the anime. If only they just made a whole original story for the anime and pacing the action scenes as to be more manageable, I believe this issue will not be this severe.
Nier Automata was always going to be a hard adaptation, Nier's story, world and characters seems to be intrinsically designed around the fact that it is a game, it understands that it is a game: From the UI to the ending, everything that makes Nier fun and interesting, is _because_ Nier Automata is a game, not in spite of it. The Last of Us works as an adaptation, due to the fact that the story of the Last of Us was something that could be told in any medium. Making it a game makes it more interactive, sure, but the Last of Us could be a book, movie, TV Series, or even a Visual Novel, and the story would still be intriguing and the characters could still be themselves.
Now imagine trying to write a book about Nier Automata's story, sure--Some of it would crossover well, but then you ask the readers to re-read the entire book from 9S's perspective, with only slight variation. Now you're trying to justify a reason for the characters to go on a fetch quest. Now you're trying to write the ending, where two robots are fighting falling credits. You have to change the story to make it fit the medium, if not, it won't work.
An Anime gives visuals to this story, and Okabe's music certainly adds the atmosphere. But Nier is an ever changing world, showing the Flooded City before in a few clips, doesn't carry the same impact when you don't get to run around it yourself, and just take things slow and examine your surroundings, I can't imagine many Anime Only viewers caring at all when the entire city is uprooted and destroyed.
What I'm trying to say, is for the Anime to work, they needed to focus strongly on what makes a Nier Anime good, not what makes a Nier Story good. To justify the existence of a Nier Anime, it needed to stand out from the game, and--There was promise on that front. Episode 2, as you mentioned was really well done. I went out of Episode 1, not sure if I wanted to continue this Anime, but Episode 2 hooked me despite that. There were a few more moments of brilliance later on, but nothing was more than serviceable at best. The Animation, was okay when it was good, but never anything special. The CG was jarring, and I've been able to stomach most CG in Anime without problem.
I don't need every Anime to be a Sakuga Fest, but if it's not fun to look at, if it's _only_ fun to watch because I liked the game, why bother? I know what Nier Automata's story has in store, so I was compelled to keep watching, but if I were a first time viewer, I'd be asking: "Is this what those Nier fans have been clamoring over all this time?"
I watched the Mario Movie this week for the first time, and I came out of it understanding why the critics didn't enjoy it. It wasn't a good movie, the pacing was awful, the jokes often didn't land, the story was bland, and the characters were pretty much one noted. I didn't leave the Mario movie with intrigue, I watched it, and it left my mind. No questions about the story, during the movie itself I wasn't given a moment to think about what I was watching, it just kept going: And then it was over.
However, the fact that the Mario Movie, _wasn't a good movie_ doesn't change the fact that it was a _Great Mario Movie,_ when I saw Mario carrying the Mini Mushroom, I excitedly knew what would happen when he ate it. The countless references kept a smile on my face the entire movie, I loved that they didn't shy away from the fact that the Mario universe, is a video game universe first and foremost. Hearing the music I've been listening to my whole life throughout various games, made me a bit emotional. This film, didn't need to explain _why_ a Mario movie needed to be made, even though I had been asking myself that question for years, once I watched it, I understood the hype, I understood why a Mario movie was a good idea. It may not be my favorite movie, not by a long shot -- I even prefer the Sonic movie's in many ways, and I'm not a big fan of them either, but I'm glad we got a Mario Brother's Movie.
All this to say: Nier Automata never had to be a good _Anime_ to be a good _Nier Anime._ And it failed on both fronts--It could have been at least okay if the production wasn't so poorly managed, but now: Even if the next episodes release, and they somehow have the best Animation I've ever seen, I'll always have a sour taste on my tongue for this show. It's not that I hate the Anime, it's not so bad that I get to laugh at it, it's just that I feel nothing but disappointment and apathy for this adaptation. And the last thing Nier should _ever_ be, is forgettable.
And unfortunately, Forgettable is all this Anime will ever be.
I disagree on the Mario movie outright not being a good movie. It's obviously tailored towards fanservice the most, but I don't think the movie as a whole deserves to not be considered good.
I aint reading allat
“Why make anime better when people will watch if either way 😀”
The only thing I like about the anime of nier is B2
Honestly, this, imo, is less of a case of the anime industry being shit, and more Aniplex specifically being shit.
Becauee CLW/A-1 basically are subsidiaries of Aniplex, they can't refuse whatever production that Aniplex offers. And unlike CLW, which has invested in Spy x family, A-1 is still dealing with the problems of being a subsidiary of Aniplex.
Yeah but some other production committees are also destroying the anime industry. And you're right about spy x family with cloverworks. Damn, The trailer was released by TOHO, not ANIPLEX, man i really want to see them to get rid of ANIPLEX's bullshits. They are already one of the best studios that can deliver Quality (has probably one of the best APs in Terms of connections). You think they can someday get rid of being an ANIPLEX subsidairy? They are still getting fucked, they only have 2 APs and doing more than Mappa. But yeah A-1 situation is probably worse. Man i want to see cloverworks full potential without ANIPLEX
@@user-og6pb6dd5p They can't get rid of it, they're under Aniplex. It's almost impossible for A-1 to be not under aniplex, especially how their big hit series', they've not invested in.
@@raawesome3851 ik. What about cloverworks? There is not a way for to be a studio on their own? They invested in spy x family as you said right?
@@user-og6pb6dd5p well, their producers were smart and invested smart. A-1, not so much.
@@raawesome3851 i hope they can be studio of their own tho. They are one of the best studios in Terms of consistency in Quality in these horrendous schedules and works. They probably know they can't continue like this anymore. They only have 2APs. What do you think?
The game can't be adapted, best you can do is translate, it's just a video game esque video game and nothing would work as well if you were to remove the video game part.
Best they could have done is do a cyberpunk and adapt another story from the universe
The Nier anime was going in a new direction until the hiatus
@Serocco idk, most seems to be the same events besides like... Lily replacing Anemone and Jackass being an actual character
It would've been more interesting if they made an anime based on the kingdom of night
Sounds like A1 was... carrying the weight of the world.
The vid content got spoiled because of the wall of sub at the start. I'm ngmi bros
Remember Dragon Ball Super’s absolutely horrible schedule that took literally 2-3 years to stabilize? Yeah glad no one learned from that……..
dude, so many spoilers playing on your background
I like how Nier fans likes that the anime ver is quite different from the game while also integrating some stories from the stage plays and such whereas FF7 fans when it comes to FF7 Remake... 💀
As an FF7 fan, I'm also very happy with FFVII Remake. There are just some people who have very specific inflexible ideas of what adaptation should be.
I just call it another Nier ending
How have you done a spotlight on the sheep fast food cash grab Pokémon. Yet you haven’t done digimon the movie. That is pure perfection. pLus the same director as Belle and summers wars (digimon our war game 2.0), Mira I, boy and the beast etc etc etc. Digimon is leagues better than Pokémon. I seen you did tri. But that was a let down. What about Kizuna???? also you should prolly dive into made in abyss again. The movie and season 2. Your videos are great.
While I agree that the delays are a shame and that something very wrong is going on at Aniplex, I think you're exaggerating when calling it disappointing . The anime is great and looks better than 95% of other animes. Except for episode 1 which was really bad, Nier looks very good at his highs and looks ok at his lows which is enough for the audience to enjoy the show.
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This game was better in the 90s when it was called Red Ninja on ps2
The Moral of a story is aniplex is evil
I see, so outsourcing and lean business models. Sounds truely penny-pinching.
It’s just pointless to make anime or movies out of already cinematic games.
Nier Automata has no business being an anime. It was meant to be enjoyed as a game.
I really think it had a shot of being a good anime, and although the 1:1 adaptated episodes were less interesting, the episodes where they changed things up were really exciting. In fact, the scene the show left on before being delayed was really interesting!
Glad I'm not the only one upset at the lack of fight scenes. I get that it's okay to cut out fight scenes which don't advance plot or character development, but come on! In the last episode they skipped over so many big battles to get to the "Adam kidnapping 9S" stuff.
86 wasn't my cup of tea but it was very well made and I was expecting the same high quality with Nier. It's unfortunate both were plagued by incompetence from the animation studio.
Nier Automata Anime has been very hit or miss. I definitely like whenever they depart from the game to "recontextualize" themes and characters.
Haha, I have my problems with Lycoris Recoil's writing, I wouldn't call the show great or a masterpiece. And saying "at least it was able to air 12 episodes" isn't a low bar we should be accepting.
Ngl i kinda wish they did a drakengard anime
Also want a drakengard 3 remake
It's just a bunch of cutscenes from the game clubbed together. Looked great in the game, but poor for an anime. I got bored quick.
Aniplex literally is using AI-generated frames in Fate/Grand Order, so yeah, we'll only go downhill from here.
I wish they didn’t make an anime, I couldn’t even get through episode 1 and every clip I see just makes me hate the way they did 9s’s character.
GRR! YOU'RE BETTER THAN CLICKBAIT CANIPA!
And what's disappointing about the animation...? It looks really good. Many of the best scenes are direct replicas of scenes from the game.
Cgi bad
Good bait sir
how 'bout you watch the whole thing first. It's been 8 minutes since upload.
cute Claudia pfp
@@nelisezpasce Ten q!
This is why I never ever trust A1 animations, Mashle feels so stilted and awkward.. they just never know how to adapt anything I swear
That is a problem with with them being under Aniplex and thus constantly being given poor schedules to make their series, not as if the people who work there are a bunch of incompetent fools who don't know how to make anything.
Did you Watched The video? It's literally ANIPLEX? You're blaming the Studio?
Blame aniplex. A1 adaptation of kaguya sama (from s1 to s3) and the movie are fenomenal
Bruh
@@arthursemeghinigallo3336i think because Dr movie also helped because no way it can be like this under ANIPLEX
A little premature statment.
The greatest problem I had with the anime is the fact that they shy away from any combat scenes unless absolutely necessary. They always skip the complex stuff and go to good ol reliable talk talk talk. Unfortunately talk alone could not carry this and the impression that the show left me with is that it simply didn't have the budget or the talent behind it to properly convey the story on a level that the game did and I really enjoyed the game and its story. It really leaves you with a bittersweet taste.
So.... did you just not watch the video where he explicitly mentioned the terrible schedules, and that the anime does have really great staff overall?
Fair enough, now that I've re-read my comment it does come off that way, but making good schedules and coordinating people is a talent in of itself.