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  • @larryhouse3776
    @larryhouse3776 2 роки тому +1068

    That transmission sound at high speed was awesome.

    • @jwilson2793
      @jwilson2793 Рік тому +25

      Gotta love straight cut gears

    • @dudders___1684
      @dudders___1684 Рік тому +15

      love it, Sounds like a jet turbine spooling up

    • @Nsodnoajdjksl
      @Nsodnoajdjksl Рік тому +2

      And even better, the GTR goes real fast in Heat.

    • @Andy_King2424
      @Andy_King2424 4 місяці тому +3

      227 mph

    • @Wafflelover344
      @Wafflelover344 14 днів тому

      @@dudders___1684 My thoughts exactly. Is there a supercharger irl that sounds like that?

  • @mattryletdj
    @mattryletdj 2 роки тому +1172

    0:05 the stock m3 is shocked

    • @dsomgi7633
      @dsomgi7633 2 роки тому +134

      it's not stock m3, but stock e46 probably with 2.0

    • @andre7089
      @andre7089 2 роки тому +7

      @chr0mer LMFAOOO

    • @andre7089
      @andre7089 2 роки тому +11

      @chr0mer e46 said 🥸🫠🙄🙄

    • @twistedaxles9126
      @twistedaxles9126 2 роки тому +10

      He was so mesmerized that he almost ran into the SUV

    • @nathanamaral5766
      @nathanamaral5766 2 роки тому +37

      The one at 0:34 tho, was all like 😭😭

  • @user-gh4of6ce3t
    @user-gh4of6ce3t 2 роки тому +2082

    The sound is actually good. After nfs carbon this car lost it's classic sound. But here we are again.

    • @HeroManNick132
      @HeroManNick132 2 роки тому +49

      And you comment that after 2 years when this game came out lol.

    • @Grgur911
      @Grgur911 2 роки тому +40

      did carbon ruin the sound, idk I never unlocked it in carbon

    • @gabrielevalentini4438
      @gabrielevalentini4438 2 роки тому +21

      You know this is the actual sound from the game right? They didn't edit nothing lmao

    • @emekaasiegbu3697
      @emekaasiegbu3697 2 роки тому +13

      It's still not good

    • @Silence867
      @Silence867 2 роки тому +7

      @@Grgur911 vice versa, you can try it right at the beginning of carbon career for a bit.

  • @supersnow17
    @supersnow17 Рік тому +563

    Have to admit. One of the only few new NFS games that captured the spirit of the original but updating it for modern times. And this is someone who LOVES how loud Carbon's GTR is.

    • @Deeps429
      @Deeps429 Рік тому +24

      Looked up real thing and holy crap does Heat's sound like it.

    • @cornedbeef4332
      @cornedbeef4332 Рік тому +8

      @Daniel Parker naw, not the engine. This m3 has a meatier, lower rumble to it, like American v8s. The real gtr racecar had a higher pitched, higher revving v8. The transmission sound tho is pure secks.

    • @edwpolanco
      @edwpolanco 8 місяців тому +3

      ​@cornedbeef4332 agreed. I honestly think the gear whine in this game sounds better than the old ones.

    • @billyhatcher643
      @billyhatcher643 6 місяців тому +1

      Yep carbon maybe not well liked but the engine sounds are amazing

    • @rolando9023
      @rolando9023 3 дні тому

      ​@@cornedbeef4332doesn't make it any less of a monster

  • @andre7089
    @andre7089 2 роки тому +514

    The straight cut gears sound is on point

  • @Rumcajss23
    @Rumcajss23 Рік тому +185

    0:14 Hear the power of this car!

  • @vobihy7858
    @vobihy7858 2 роки тому +223

    man if you would sit in a spaceship travelling through space.. no jokes this is insane

    • @MizzardLetsPlay
      @MizzardLetsPlay Рік тому +2

      I friggin love the high pitch hissing that comes from the car along with the roaring of the engine. I literally bought a better engine, but put it away and returned to this one just becase the sound brought joy to my gameplay

  • @goodtimesbro9635
    @goodtimesbro9635 2 роки тому +311

    Even tho it isn't the original sound it still sounds really good

    • @johannesborn8042
      @johannesborn8042 2 роки тому +5

      Wdym not original

    • @goodtimesbro9635
      @goodtimesbro9635 2 роки тому +12

      @@johannesborn8042 It doesn't really sound like the first game need for speed most wanted 2012 but it still sounds good

    • @muhammadmuneeb5214
      @muhammadmuneeb5214 2 роки тому +132

      @@goodtimesbro9635 How old are you? This car came from nfs mw 2005.Mw 2012 is a joke.

    • @mohtaufiqurrochman9034
      @mohtaufiqurrochman9034 2 роки тому +59

      @@goodtimesbro9635 since 2012 the developer always used the street version or M3 E46 of the car with an i6 engine. The original sound from 2005 was most wanted and carbon has to sound from the original racing version of M3 called M3 GTR that competes under the FIA GT championship. if u say the sound isn't the same as i6 you are completely wrong because the M3 GTR always used V8, not i6 engine. also if u hear something like a flute sound when u reach 5th gear that is called straight cut gears that mostly applied on GT racing cars, u can hear it on every car, especially FIA GT3 race cars. so it's obvious why they choose i6 engine sound because it's from M3 streetcars, not M3 GTR race cars

    • @goodtimesbro9635
      @goodtimesbro9635 2 роки тому +2

      @@mohtaufiqurrochman9034 I guess that makes sense

  • @Drogbaonly
    @Drogbaonly Рік тому +39

    0:05 the first stock M3 shocked
    0:37 now it's the second one

  • @M4DAttack
    @M4DAttack 7 місяців тому +32

    0:13
    My ps4 when I start up rdr2

  • @uvrays6336
    @uvrays6336 2 роки тому +355

    I think nfs heat has achieved the sense of speed and aggression after a long time. I think it's just me or all the other nfs games have lost that essence of speed (after nfs carbon of course)

    • @isomericgamer6644
      @isomericgamer6644 2 роки тому +68

      Prostreet, Undercover, World, The Run, Most wanted 2012 have nailed the sense of speed imo.

    • @uvrays6336
      @uvrays6336 2 роки тому +3

      @@isomericgamer6644 agreed 🤌

    • @wolverine9743
      @wolverine9743 2 роки тому

      Yeaa

    • @siavashkiamousavi1283
      @siavashkiamousavi1283 2 роки тому +9

      I'd say after the blackbox era it lost it I haven't played heat tho so I can't say anything about that one

    • @danielstokker
      @danielstokker 2 роки тому

      The sense of speed you get here is unrealistic to say the least this is not at all how speed is experienced

  • @yuanmanilag1648
    @yuanmanilag1648 2 роки тому +126

    The Sound From NFS Heat Is Actually Close To The Most Wanted Version

    • @nothingbutenes7813
      @nothingbutenes7813 2 роки тому +13

      Not even a bit. Are you guys joking? The shortcut gear sounds more like a gas tube is releasing the air out. And the engine sound is not even close. You should check out the mw 2005 sounds and the j.Hans Stuck's bmw m3 gtr video. Then u'll realize

    • @yuanmanilag1648
      @yuanmanilag1648 2 роки тому +38

      @@nothingbutenes7813 Well I'm Just Tellin My Opinion Jeez Calm Down Man.......

    • @alicemargatroid3777
      @alicemargatroid3777 2 роки тому +3

      @@nothingbutenes7813 It sounds almost the same as Mostwanted 2005 to me, right?

    • @HeroManNick132
      @HeroManNick132 2 роки тому +2

      @@yuanmanilag1648 The NFS MW 2005 sound is from TVR Cerbera, while this is a different sound but not from TVR Cerbera like the NFS MW 2005 one or the NFS Carbon that got mixed with Jaguar XK.

    • @HeroManNick132
      @HeroManNick132 2 роки тому +2

      @@nothingbutenes7813 Nah the NFS MW 2005 sound is this: ua-cam.com/video/0vZSX9tKc0k/v-deo.html Even in the files says it is from TVR Cerbera. The only time where they used the actual M3 GTR sound is just in 1 cutscene when we got even the cockpit view from the car, despite they did also the mistake that they used the interior from the street version and not the race version. Same in NFS Carbon.

  • @mandar_desai34
    @mandar_desai34 2 роки тому +87

    That whine!😍

    • @zackbarlow3216
      @zackbarlow3216 Рік тому

      I know right

    • @Blaze-xy3sz
      @Blaze-xy3sz Рік тому

      Late but you might like this
      ua-cam.com/video/FstXpvGzxZI/v-deo.html

  • @orexxio
    @orexxio Рік тому +31

    An OG V8 GTR sound, just so gorgeous

  • @yfi62dortoh
    @yfi62dortoh Рік тому +26

    It’s really cool to see this again. This was the first video of the m3 gtr released before the games launch and it sent me into shock with hype for the game. Heat is the best nfs game in recent memory and I’m so mad at EA for scrapping the best team they’ve had in years.

  • @oyen162
    @oyen162 Місяць тому +3

    Damn the gear sound it's insane

  • @ablordenutefe2046
    @ablordenutefe2046 2 місяці тому +3

    The most iconic car in racing game history 💪🏾

  • @meh...4966
    @meh...4966 8 місяців тому +8

    Sounds so damn good. I’ve never played heat or any nfs past 2010 tbh, but that straight cut gear whine with the engine sound took me back to MW 2005

  • @roxor8486
    @roxor8486 2 роки тому +21

    Straigth to my "see again" list. Everyone should hear this sound once in a while.

  • @unabotelladeagua3698
    @unabotelladeagua3698 2 роки тому +19

    * _hearing satisfaction_ *

  • @Shomai4you
    @Shomai4you 2 місяці тому +2

    The straight cut gears tho 🔥🔥

  • @dylanthe77villan93
    @dylanthe77villan93 Рік тому +3

    god, it's so simple how you can make a man happy.

  • @WubbaDubba5361
    @WubbaDubba5361 2 роки тому +135

    One thing NFS always did right was the sounds, Most Wanted 2012 had the best sounds imo

    • @HeroManNick132
      @HeroManNick132 2 роки тому +23

      True but not the M3 GTR.

    • @Zyntherion2202
      @Zyntherion2202 2 роки тому +30

      @@HeroManNick132 Yeah, the GTR in that game has an inline 6 instead of a Flat-plane V8

    • @eriktenhag2022
      @eriktenhag2022 2 роки тому +1

      @@Zyntherion2202 in mw12?

    • @Zyntherion2202
      @Zyntherion2202 2 роки тому

      @@eriktenhag2022 yep

    • @alicemargatroid3777
      @alicemargatroid3777 2 роки тому +2

      @@HeroManNick132 The Mostwanted 2012 BMW M3 GTR is a real BMW M3 GTR.
      If you look closely at the interior, it has a roll cage and buttons.
      Sure, the engine sound is i6, but that's unavoidable.
      And NFS 2015 and NFS PAYBACK are fake BMW M3 GTR.

  • @Dany_edits
    @Dany_edits 6 місяців тому +8

    The pure sound of the beast 🤤🔥

  • @ayushchoubey635
    @ayushchoubey635 8 місяців тому +4

    Transmission is just 😍

  • @zetsuboukibou1975
    @zetsuboukibou1975 Рік тому +2

    First when I heard the whistle sound or racing gearbox sound or whatever it is,I was just dropping tears and re watched this video like 10 times

  • @Kain1805
    @Kain1805 Місяць тому +1

    My god the sound in Heat is so beautiful, going from "brrrrrmmmm" to the iconic whine, might be even better than the original for me

  • @TunahanBayrak7
    @TunahanBayrak7 6 днів тому

    That whistle amazes me man

  • @InfinityPark889
    @InfinityPark889 Рік тому +6

    0:13 the sound of the gear 😱😱😱😱

  • @THUNDERZVOICE
    @THUNDERZVOICE 2 роки тому +34

    Although it doesn’t have the same sound as the real life and nfsmw 2005 version, it’s close enough and that’s what really matters

    • @zdendas13v2
      @zdendas13v2 Рік тому

      They took the mw 05 sound from a TVR Cerbera

    • @TheNicoxoxD
      @TheNicoxoxD Рік тому

      @@zdendas13v2 still mimics better the original sound than this

    • @zdendas13v2
      @zdendas13v2 Рік тому

      @@TheNicoxoxD yea but carbon is the most realistic

    • @TheNicoxoxD
      @TheNicoxoxD Рік тому +2

      @@zdendas13v2 actually mw is lot more realistic, carbon uses a different engine sound file for the revs and the sound is off by minus 2000~ rpm it revs really low, on most wanted you can clearly hear the engine going up to 8500, the louder whine don't make the sound more realistic on carbon

    • @TheNicoxoxD
      @TheNicoxoxD Рік тому

      @@zdendas13v2 because the gtr is like a ferrari screamer on real life despite having a v8, any american v8 rumble sound like in heat or unbound is so wrong

  • @ljmzdev
    @ljmzdev Рік тому +24

    The sound from NFS MW 2005 is nostalgic and very relaxing, but this one still is incredibly on point to the real life sound of this car. Both are awesome.

  • @_ertugrul_727
    @_ertugrul_727 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks man

  • @headhunter531
    @headhunter531 Рік тому +28

    No matter what people say, NFS games will have better sounding cars than Forza till the end of times.

  • @tardarsauce1842
    @tardarsauce1842 2 роки тому +8

    Loved that transmission whine

  • @Sbinnala
    @Sbinnala 3 місяці тому +1

    This is quite literally the E9X M3 sound. That’s exactly what it sounds like in real life.

  • @NemaMarcell
    @NemaMarcell 10 місяців тому +8

    In the newer nfs games this car lost it's legendary sound, but i have to admit it still sounds good. The sad thing is when you change engine, it loses its whine 😢

    • @mr_me6230
      @mr_me6230 9 місяців тому +3

      Drive manual transmission and go at higher rpm if you want it whine

  • @thatshaydude5082
    @thatshaydude5082 Рік тому +2

    dont mind me adding this to my music playlist

  • @HeroManNick132
    @HeroManNick132 2 роки тому +9

    Video: *uploaded 2 years ago.*
    Comments: *oldest - 2 months ago*
    Welcome to YT recommendations.

  • @gvsingh8750
    @gvsingh8750 Місяць тому

    That whine at high speeds always reminds me of a certain impending phone call regarding a huge oil slick 😅.

  • @fredx8109
    @fredx8109 Рік тому

    very relaxing 🥶🤯

  • @LastDriveOfCarsimulator2
    @LastDriveOfCarsimulator2 3 місяці тому +1

    Noice my friend completed heat a while ago his ps4 Its exactly like showed on his ps4 he only got nfs heat as his only game unfortunately😢

  • @FernandoSilva-eo5uy
    @FernandoSilva-eo5uy 2 місяці тому +1

    Com esse som, parece que vai sair voando a qualquer momento

  • @raheem794
    @raheem794 Рік тому +2

    I miss the old BMW sounds honestly with its screaming alien engine and it's demon transmission and the way the turbo squealed like the car was gonna explode 😂

  • @shaikabdulraheem1540
    @shaikabdulraheem1540 6 місяців тому +3

    0:36 did anyone see one bmw m3 faces the other 😂

  • @barimi7809
    @barimi7809 5 днів тому +1

    thats my favourite car and the sound

  • @themuhammad1
    @themuhammad1 2 роки тому +13

    The wini sound of this car comes from transmission being sequential unlike normal transmission which is gated.

    • @HeroManNick132
      @HeroManNick132 2 роки тому +7

      Finally anyone understands that this sound doesn't come from turbo or supercharger as some people still believing till today which is ridiculous.

    • @chrissss696
      @chrissss696 2 роки тому +2

      It's not really the fact that it's sequential, but the fact that it uses straight cut gears, which make more noise

    • @themuhammad1
      @themuhammad1 2 роки тому

      @@chrissss696 i forgot to mention

  • @Weirdoh8er
    @Weirdoh8er 8 місяців тому +1

    You know it's a racecar when the transmission is louder than the engine

  • @The_real_paill_neverdies
    @The_real_paill_neverdies 2 місяці тому

    They still got that famous straight cut whine dayummm

  • @ahmetbaltac1415
    @ahmetbaltac1415 Рік тому +3

    now i took my daily dose of m3 gtr sound, see you tomorrow guys

  • @amishpandey6996
    @amishpandey6996 3 місяці тому +2

    It's like a fucking missile

  • @nikitabktxo5
    @nikitabktxo5 2 роки тому +3

    When stock bmw horns, I am feeling like I have sudennly woken up from a dreaming)

  • @ciornyjvoron971
    @ciornyjvoron971 4 місяці тому

    With this car you can literally exceed the boundaries of existence. No joke, I was going so much fast that my game crashed lol

  • @JamesSmith-dn6ei
    @JamesSmith-dn6ei Рік тому

    I like the ringing sound when you go up high speed

  • @TracerX
    @TracerX Рік тому +8

    The sense of speed is really good in this game. Thank you Amazon for the free copy!

    • @tgtme
      @tgtme Рік тому +1

      Wait, aren't your profile picture about those 2 birds from the back of Delsin Rowe's vest?

    • @TracerX
      @TracerX Рік тому

      @@tgtme Yeah

    • @tgtme
      @tgtme Рік тому

      @@TracerX Delsin needs a sequel... 😭

    • @TracerX
      @TracerX Рік тому +1

      @@tgtme Agreed..... We need a new game.

    • @tgtme
      @tgtme Рік тому

      @@TracerX If Cole can get a sequel, then why Delsin can't?!

  • @naruhodoryuichi_daniel
    @naruhodoryuichi_daniel 2 роки тому +2

    I RLY LIKE IT!!!)))00))0

  • @ufukthegreat0
    @ufukthegreat0 Рік тому +3

    The engine sounds similar to the real life GTR. That straight cut gearbox doesn't with real life match though.

  • @yurialexandre2037
    @yurialexandre2037 2 роки тому +19

    I really expected that the car would fly with that engine sound

    • @HeroManNick132
      @HeroManNick132 2 роки тому

      Bruh... You really wished that every car became a plane, right?

    • @2Drexxed
      @2Drexxed Рік тому

      Wasn’t that good anyways :(

  • @H982_FKL
    @H982_FKL 2 роки тому +3

    It sounds very real

  • @DerangedJoker97
    @DerangedJoker97 8 місяців тому +1

    The Whine is brutal

  • @prodeagle607
    @prodeagle607 Рік тому +2

    plot twist: the brakes are more expensive than the engine

  • @nexus3756
    @nexus3756 6 місяців тому +1

    I fucking love this sound.

  • @kamyarmusavi3020
    @kamyarmusavi3020 Рік тому +1

    That sound...
    I lost my minde

  • @rhmonii
    @rhmonii 2 роки тому +21

    I just felt for a moment that it will fly
    NFS was a super games but carbon was the last amazing game

  • @exokirhxx4137
    @exokirhxx4137 3 місяці тому

    Fun fact: This car is naturally aspirated. The "supercharger" whine ur hearing is actually the straight cut gears from the m3's racing transmission

  • @siilenxo
    @siilenxo 15 днів тому

    That 5th gear tho 😮‍💨

  • @RWSK007
    @RWSK007 5 місяців тому +2

    SHE'S BEAUTIFUL, SHE'S A LEGEND !!!

  • @someguyidk2
    @someguyidk2 23 дні тому

    The scream man

  • @Garth_Brown
    @Garth_Brown 11 місяців тому

    BMW Starship! Take Off! BEAUTIFUL!

  • @hamma5834
    @hamma5834 3 місяці тому

    That kettle whining sound makes feel some heavy stuff man😢

  • @alicemargatroid3777
    @alicemargatroid3777 2 роки тому +10

    Like sound!!

  • @denisham1313
    @denisham1313 2 роки тому +1

    Топ!!!

  • @highoctanesynx7950
    @highoctanesynx7950 2 роки тому +4

    Thats how i remember most wanted 2005 looking like in...well.... 2005

    • @HeroManNick132
      @HeroManNick132 2 роки тому

      Why every game that has the M3 GTR has to be refered to NFS MW 2005? Like just because it got more popularity there doesn't mean it was the first racing game to introduce it. God damn it!

    • @highoctanesynx7950
      @highoctanesynx7950 2 роки тому +5

      @@HeroManNick132 this specific looking M3 GTR was introduced in mw, nothing to do with the car itself

    • @HeroManNick132
      @HeroManNick132 2 роки тому

      @@highoctanesynx7950 Yeah, and? Too overrated livery.

    • @chromatizer7932
      @chromatizer7932 2 роки тому

      @@HeroManNick132 Nah.

    • @HeroManNick132
      @HeroManNick132 2 роки тому

      @@chromatizer7932 You keep denying it because everytime where there is an M3 GTR it has to be the NFS MW 2005 version which got wrecked like in 2006 by Cross lol.

  • @dariusheavy9923
    @dariusheavy9923 Рік тому +2

    0:13 *agressive shifting intensifies*

  • @vakarisradzevicius1869
    @vakarisradzevicius1869 7 місяців тому

    I used this car in every race i bean i love this car my fav

  • @aflahbariq374
    @aflahbariq374 Рік тому +1

    The top speed is 230 mph/ 370 kmh. If the road was longer, maybe he could go at 400 kmh / 248 mph

  • @gokuentofficial2005
    @gokuentofficial2005 2 роки тому +4

    0:36 BMW M3 E46 and BMW M3 GTR basically the same car, just tuned

  • @Bionic8J
    @Bionic8J 8 місяців тому

    Just love how that whining sound is supposed to be the gearbox and not the supercharger

  • @dogukanyamac3249
    @dogukanyamac3249 5 місяців тому +1

    The weeeeee 🥹

  • @XdeathKillerX727
    @XdeathKillerX727 2 місяці тому

    Razor bein so quiet these days😂

  • @fatb874
    @fatb874 Рік тому +2

    Que pro

  • @chefcomtechmike6303
    @chefcomtechmike6303 Рік тому

    Try adding the Ultimate Single Turbocharger which makes it sound even more awsome

  • @unknown_profile.
    @unknown_profile. Рік тому +1

    My God, what a brake hahaha

  • @JONNYTV69
    @JONNYTV69 3 місяці тому

    My alarm 🗿

  • @snickers7494
    @snickers7494 2 роки тому +1

    Good day everyone and welcome to 2FastAir lines, please fasten your seatbelts and sit comfy, were about to take off.

  • @canberkguven9060
    @canberkguven9060 2 роки тому +1

    Straight cut gears shown themselves after 5th gear

  • @kur0man166
    @kur0man166 Рік тому +1

    Finally the V8 Sound is back

  • @user-db2bi3td4z
    @user-db2bi3td4z Рік тому +1

    0:36
    Stock Bmw : "Oh, I need go to the gym."

  • @user-hz4tc2pf3x
    @user-hz4tc2pf3x 2 місяці тому

    Maaan those exauhst pops

  • @YTSeiyaGoFire
    @YTSeiyaGoFire 3 місяці тому

    I prefer the whine from nfs mw but the motor sound is great, the sence of speed and agression is inmense, i love it, it feels a bit more faster than in nfsmw

  • @akhil_1210
    @akhil_1210 Рік тому +1

    Trust me. Stock sounds much better. Mainly because of the slow shifting you'll get eargasm at 7000 rpm when the supercharger is at its peak decibels

  • @starpixel3998
    @starpixel3998 Рік тому

    bro the thing sounds like a jet engine

  • @manfredrrs1376
    @manfredrrs1376 2 роки тому +2

    F1 😍

  • @horvisnone4997
    @horvisnone4997 2 роки тому +3

    I bought this game for my PS4 but I haven't played it yet

    • @HeroManNick132
      @HeroManNick132 2 роки тому +1

      Lol then give it to me.

    • @hawken796
      @hawken796 2 роки тому

      It's one of the best street racers. Play it

  • @hankrocheong8576
    @hankrocheong8576 2 роки тому +1

    *Suspect Silver BMW*

  • @JaredRouse8465
    @JaredRouse8465 Рік тому

    Damn, how fast you can make this car go when fully modified? And make it have a 8 gear transmission as well?

  • @user-er6en9mv5q
    @user-er6en9mv5q Рік тому

    Поздно появляется звук механики

  • @marh122
    @marh122 Рік тому

    what is that high pitch sound, which component is responsible for that, i know its not a turbo, but i found something about the transmission ?

  • @blyad2137
    @blyad2137 7 місяців тому +1

    I mean, it's not bad

  • @TheKenners
    @TheKenners 4 місяці тому +1

    0:11 acá es donde la trasmisión hace su trabajo 👹👹👹☠️☠️☠️

  • @theplaceholder3
    @theplaceholder3 10 місяців тому +1

    I still can’t believe EA decided this game wasn’t worth it and quit development early