classique camera manufacturers... i would make camera per use cases with a animal name for exemple and then increment the version/edition per year or so.
5D full frame, 6D full frame, 7D aps-c… I guess the odd one is the new R8 replacing the rp . Back in the DSLR times canon didn’t have a cheaper full frame alternative whereas these days competition has forced them to have a cheaper “6D”. My guess
"Fix this, it's annoying" - every review needs this segment, including Chris' still photography review. Worth doing some back-and-forth mode switching (aperture priority auto ISO to flash manual to sports shutter priority to self timer and back again) for stills to look for weird annoyances, defaults and disabled functionality in a lot of cameras. Examples of bad designs for still photography seen in the wild: - self timer stays on when turning the camera off and on again (bad - you can lose a shot by missing a moment if you forget to turn the timer off, conversely you don't "lose" a posed timer shot when it turns off by itself, you just try again) - turning on flash requires dialing through the entire ISO range to reach base ISO from auto ISO every time (it's annoying) - daylight flash overexposes the image because the camera forces flash sync speed instead of delivering HSS at high shutter speed (especially for entry level cameras) - camera forces flash off in macro because it assumes internal flash is used (to prevent casting a shadow from the lens) - unexplained disabled featured (needs "why is this disabled" tooltip in menus)
It feels like the main purpose of the R8 is to make the R6 II a more attractive camera. Canon probably want us to go play with the R8 then say wow, the R6 II is a such great camera with better screens better EVF, butter control layout and buttons.....
I disagree. I'm looking for a entry level full frame camera. As an amatuer this gives me most of what I need at $1k less. Thats pretty compelling. The cheapest Sony is the A7C which doesn't do 4k60. And even the newer A7IV has a crop. So I imagine the rumored A7CII will be close to $700 more and only do 4k60 with a crop. The only downside at this point in lense selection.
@@richrollin4867 IBIS and IS into that term bring more stability. With IBIS - 4.5 stops, with IBIS - IS combined - up to 7.5 stops. It's *not* an advantage, it's what it was going on since xx years this way, Canons 28-135 IS USM came out into 1998, and featured IS (Image Stabilizer, also it was good only for roughly 2 stops). Canons EF 75-300/F4-.5.6 IS USM was 1995 the #1 lens with IS, from Canon.
About the weird naming scheme, it's the "7" that's the odd one out. They should have dropped the idea coming the dslr and go with two digits scheme only for aps-c, like R10 is the top of the line, then R20, R30 etc, following by Mark II, III, IV as they're doing with FF models.
The nice thing about the Canon R8 is it will force Nikon to up their game with the Z5 II coming out later this year. The Z5 has better ergonomics, two card slots, IBIS, a larger battery and now the availability of third party lenses. Nikon will have to upgrade the auto focus and video specs, but the result will be a very professional full frame camera for the same price as the R8. While the Canon R8 looks to be a great entry level full frame camera, the lack of IBIS and two card slots is a deal breaker for many professionals. Thanks for the competition Canon!
Yes, but the Z5 is already ahead in a few aspects... mainly dual card slots and IBIS. The Z5 is more so designed for stills shooters with the ability to shoot things like 4k with a heavy crop (one of its biggest drawbacks). The burst rate is slow, but nothing that we didn't have in DSLR days (and people still got great wildlife shots with 4-5 fps). Nikon does need to improve their AF system, but I think that will not come to the Z5, as I suspect there will never be a Z5 II. What there will be is the Z6 III (And the Z6 II will become the new middle-of-the-road FF camera for those who want more than entry level, but not the latest version either for cost reasons). Followed by a Z8 (which I'm thinking will be a mini Z9 with some limitations -- and then possibly a Z7 III which I'm predicting will get a little improvement in AF (but not to the Z9 or Z8 level) but a resolution bump (to 60MP using Sony's 60MP sensor found in the A7 IV and V). Part of the reason we won't likely see a Z5 II is that Nikon would have to put a different sensor in it, which isn't the end of the world, but the most logical choice would be to give it the Z6 sensor, but then that makes you wonder who would buy a Z6 series body if the two have the same sensors and the two could do 4k (the reason the Z5 has the heavy crop is due to the readout speed of the older FSI sensor -- presumably the same one found in the D750 with modifications for on-sensor AF -- presumably cannot perform a full sensor readout that would be fast enough unless it did something like line-skipping which people hate).
@@HR-wd6cw Canon R8 is much lighter camera than the Z5, I guess thats what Canon wanted to go for, a super lightweight full frame camera, it weights almost as much as the Sony ZV-E1 at 461g, lighter than even the Sony A7c although it lacks IBIS which both the Sony bodies do have for similar weight.
Hundreds of different R-cameras but not much lenses and cutting of 3rd party manufacturers. The new cameras are clearly aimed at people just buying a kit and that's it.
0:36 I will continue to say this but the RF 85mm F2 IS Macro is an underrated gem and I find those who trash it are not the target audience. It is an excellent street-level lens.
@@Barricade217 I use it with the R6 and I have to ask, exactly how fast-moving are we talking? Because if you are taking photos of running dogs on a field the 70-200 (EF or RF) is the better option for sure but as a general purpose street lens, I never had any issues. Even a fast police car became a nice, dramatic photo for me. And taking photos at the local aquarium, the 70-200 was left in the bag.
@@JonathanLundkvist I shoot a lot of concert stuff, having an 85 f/2 would be pretty nice, however the AF just isn’t fast enough. It hunts a lot Another issue I have is, that I shoot video. Every video I’ve seen mention the focus motor is pretty loud and you’ll hear it clear as day in your shot
Had to pause the video right there and check the comments to see if someone had said this. I agree. I hate the "x million dots" that camera manufacturers are stuck using.
@@themediocrephotographer1301 , z6 was sold for about 1000$ 24 mpx, full frame bsi cmos, 10 fps, 4k. 1/8000 mecanical, better evf. The sell point for canon is its autofocus and digic x.
@@planetfun85 They did cut it back a bit too much. Obviously trying to protect the R6II I didn't expect 2 slots, but the lack of IBIS and the small battery well they could have given one of those, the battery has no place on any camera it's pretty bad on the RP let alone this!
I’m curious how this compares to the R7. I know that’s an APS-C sensor but for the same price it offers: IBIS, dual-card slot, joystick, weather sealing, higher MP sensor, higher shooting speeds. And now you can get a speed booster for it.
@@alvareo92 10-20mm lenses for ef-s mount cameras arent too expensive. Canon makes one, so do sigma and tamron. Otoh the benefits for apsc is in wildlife and sports photography. Turns your everyday 70-200mm into something real special.
The R7 gets its auto focus system from the R3. While the R8 gets its auto focus system from the R6 Mark2. So was wondering if there is a significant difference in the Subject Detection Auto Focus performance between the R7 & R8. And yes... thanks for yet another highly informative review!
3:58 In addition to cutting the bokeh, EFCS (electronic front curtain shutter) may also introduce an artificial chromatic aberration, because the curtain and CMOS are not on a same vertical plain. An example of chromatic aberration introduced by a high speed EFCS is your sony 35 1.4GM review.
Nikon now needs a Z5 II without the 4K crop. I still think, because of the weather sealing, dual card slots, and IBIS, the Z5 might be a better option for a lot of people. If you are willing to buy used, you can do even better like the Z6 II for a similar price to the R8 or maybe a Sony a7 III for less.
Avoid the Z5 as it struggles in medium indoor light focusing, especially with slower glass. I've been shooting Nikon ML's for three years (DSLR's since 2000,) and they've left the chat. Canon and Nikon are only an option if you want to part with $10,000+ to build a kit. My A7C bridges the gap between the Z50 and Z7II and has more reliable AF. It also has affordable native f2.8 Tamron zoom lenses for it, and f1.x primes that fit in a regular jacket pocket.
@@skyrunr Do you even have a Z5? It doesn't struggle at all, even in harsh lit rooms , the new update also improved low light focusing , although Nikon hasn't mentioned it in the log. It now has the same Z6ii AF in normal shooting conditions too. Even with F4 glass it's lot snappier in focusing.
@@Blitz_Shorts Everything focuses under normal shooting conditions these days. The Z6II is a low bar for AF-C tracking. It depends on the level of reliability and speed you need. Given the Z6II's hardware differences, the Z5 shouldn't be close in low light. The Z30 keeps up with the Z7II, but that doesn't mean either are remotely as reliable as my current A7C. Not a single feature has trickled down to the II's from the Z9. Linear focusing doesn't count. Nikon still doesn't make a single FX body with an articulating screen. I say this as their biggest fan. I have a bag of z-glass waiting for the next body, but not a 61mp one. :)
I do have the RP and honestly, despite lacking 2 megapixels (which isn't much, let's be honest), the R8 seems like a worthy successor, especially in the video front. I still don't like the LP-E17, only +1 fps burst rate is laughable (40 fps electronic makes up for it though). EFCS is kinda annoying but that really what makes this camera incredibly compact, even compared to some APS-C cameras (if you look closely there's no "body" underneath the mount, it's extraordinary). Auto Focus improvement is a further plus too. edit: a freaking micro-HDMI replaces the mini-HDMI. wtf canon.
Super aggressive price point for the specs, especially video. Battery life is going to be the main concern but I hear you can charge over USB at least. Also looking forward to overheating measurements in 4K.
Cripple hammer really hit the batteries this time. We canon r users have to really move up to the r 6 or r 6 ii. Was really hoping for a horizontal upgrade path.
In UK R8 costs £1700 and Lumix S5II £2000. The choice is obvious, you get much more from Panasonic and you have access to excellent and affordable Sigma lenses! I have Canon M50 but this is most likely the last Canon I bought. If this camera was £1200 that could make sense but still you need to fork out £3000 for nice 24-70f2.8 lens from Canon when excellent sigma 24-70 costs £1050. Do the math yourself. Bye Canon!
Yes there’s no choice whatsoever, why would you get this over the S5ii in the U.K. or indeed the new R50 over one of the 3 Nikon APS-C or the Sony or Fuji? The R8 and the new R50 seem massively overpriced for such crippled cameras compared to the competition.
I wish it was that simple, while the S5ii has a number of advantages, it is also using a lot older sensor. Despite the r8 not having IBIS, it is very tempting for me (I am also after a small camera).
Youre ignoring the massive amount of EF lenses on the new and used market, both by Canon and 3rd parties like Sigma. I can get the R8 and a used Canon 50mm f1.2 L lens for a bit over 2 grand. Thats pretty nice.
@@mattm3023 does it focus well in video? I have heard that only RF glass has good auto focus, old lenses have old motors and are either too slow or too noisy.
If they had fitted IBIS they’d have a real winner. No IBIS in a modern full frame does not compute, aside from shaving a small amount of cost and not cannibalising the sales of much more expensive cameras. For hybrid and video shooters, there’s no comparison here compared to the S5ii. Another issue with Canons is the third party lenses. I have a Nikon Z30 and Panasonic G9. The Nikon APSC cameras have the fabulous Viltrox lenses, in particular the 13mm F1.4. The LUMIX has the Sigma 16mm.
Thanks for the review ! With Canon is that we keep getting back to the same problem : lens diversity. Especially at this price point where affordable quality lenses from 3rd party manufacturers is greatly needed.
Exactly. I am not buying anything new from canon, unless they allow 3rd party manufacturers to produce RF lenses. What is a entrylevel fullframe good for, when any good lens from canon costs $2000+ and I have to buy mediocre f2 lenses. I made a mistake of buying R6 and fully switching to RF mount. Now I have worse lenses I had with my DSLR. Not everyone is from USA. I make median sallary in my country, witch is 1000€ a month and I will never justify buying 2800€ lens for my photography hobby.
Agreed they need more affordable lenses. But in their defense the A7CII is rumored to have 4k60 crop and going to cost $2200. So you're talking about the R8 as an arguable better camera that is $700 cheaper. That $700 will go a decent way towards a buyers first lense or two. By then their should be more options.
At 9:02 you mention 4 channel audio capabilities on the hot shoe (cold shoe?) mount on top of the camera. However, I cannot find any lavalier microphone product that uses this shoe exclusively for the power source and data transfer. Every lavalier microphone I have found has to be plugged into the audio jack of the camera, which is inconvenient and seemingly unnecessary if you own this camera. Do you know of any reasonably-priced lavalier microphones (less than $200) that don't require a separate plug in to the audio jack? Or is this mostly a high-priced professional option?
Let's be honest, this is mostly a good video camera . For photography, c'mon, no proper weather-sealing, one card slot, no mechanical shutter, abysmal battery life, and worst of all, lack of third party lenses, and the RF glass among the most expensive, almost twice the price of this body. A second hand Sony A7RIII, A7III, will be cheaper and will offer you a plethora of compatible lenses. I know Canon AF is great, but that just a part of the equation.
"RF glass among the most expensive, almost twice the price of this body" Really? The only RF lenses you see are the $3000 ones? There at least 10 RF lenses prices under $500, anything from 15mm to 800mm.
Nice quick review. At $1499 it is really a great camera. I researched Sigma fp, which is about the same cost but lack the AF and other still photo features. This is a very good starter for full frame. It makes a lot sense to have this and use the saved money on a better lens, which R8 can take full advantage with the same sensor as R6 ii.
Just get a used S5 for 1100$. If you don't need good video AF it's perfect! For photo it's totally fine amd it has killer video features that even 2500$ sony/canon cameras do not have :)
The main reason people buy the sigma FP now is it’s ability to record CinemaDNG. Effectively making it one of the smallest full frame cinema cameras available. If photos are your priority, there are better options.
3rd party manufacturers like Neewer will make a vertical grip for the R8 so battery life will be double and it will be fine for big hands. they already make one for the RP using the 2.5mm socket on the side to control the vertical shutter. Might even fit on the New R8 assuming the body is exactly the sames, which it seems to be. Only downside of 3rd party grips are the grips needs to be removed to access the SD card.
No, it's not. It's got a crap EVF, no IBIS, no mechanical shutter, a toy battery from a crop sensor camera, one card slot and no weather sealing. It's a stripped down and crippled entry level camera that should be about $800. The Nikon Z5 with its 3.69 milldot EVF, IBIS, 1/8000s mechanical shutter, dual card slots, full sized battery and weather sealing is an entry level pro camera and its $300 cheaper than the R8. You have to move up to the $2500 R6II to get the same features you get in the $1200 Z5. Canon is overpriced.
I have R6 and RP combo for work. R8 looks promising as a secondary/support camera. Unfortunately the price is kinda unattractive since you can almost get a nice used R6 for that cost.
I have been thinking about getting Canon Eos R, I know its an older camera but has a lot of good features and good capabilities overall. I waited for the announcement of R8. It would be amazing if you would make a short video on the comparison or even if you could just reply to this comment stating what would be your choice between Eos R and Eos R8. I'd greatly appreciate it.
@@sadovski.pavel.photography To add to your point about "great autofocus". The need for "great autofocus" should be when we shoot something that move REALLY FAST like birds or sports or indoor actions at lower light because if we shoot portraits, landscape, or even street photography, even a Nikon D2X can autofocus just fine.
@@thegrayyernaut no, great AF is not only speed, it is overall performance, eye detection, subject tracking and so on. I currently shoot with both R and R6 and I can assure you - Eos R AF sucks even comparing to R6 mark 1.
One thing that would speak for the original R is the body design. Of course the R didnt have a joystick as well, but it´s still a fairly professional-grade camera with a big grip, good battery (LP-E6N(H)) and is overall relatively robust. You get the top LCD and the touchbar (if used in combo with the "Lock" button) can be useful as well. The screen on the R has a pretty high resolution by the way - same as the R5, so better than both R6 & R6 Mk II. The video with 1080p ALL-I is pretty high quality if you need it, in 4K you´ll of course have to work with the crop. Depends on what you want to shoot with it. If you shoot a lot of landscape, travel or simple portraits, I´d probably pick the R over the R8. You have a bit more resolution and the body is solid. I always found the R´s AF perfectly useable for everything that is within a "normal" range of photography. The R only struggles hard with moving subjects due to the low framerate. Even if the AF keeps tracking, you´ll likely miss the subject after the first shots as the viewfinder refresh is too slow.
@@sadovski.pavel.photography I'll consider it a problem with my skills. AF Speed is something I can't hone, the other qualities of my photo's focus, if failed, are on me.
Is the rolling shutter in 4k30 and 4k60 still bad on the R8? I do aviation videos and the rolling shutter on airshows destroys my footage because any vibrations at longer zoom ranges (150mm for example) makes the planes deform. That is one of the reasons why I still have my Sony RX10IV, which handles it way better than any Canon I've used.
Funny to see that, when Olympus introduced the trains, planes, cars tracking AF features back in the EM1X era, everybody made fun of it. And, now... Even Canon has it
Since it has Canon RP body, i actually wondering if it can record in 1080p when you use EF/EF-S lens. RP does shoot in 1080p but 720p when you use EF/EF-S lens which is a downsize to me
This could make a good upgrade for me, already got a lighter tripod and a couple of the same batteries from my 200Dii. Mainly I just want video with a lot more dynamic range, and the choice of higher frame rate too. I’d be looking at buying the variable aperture 24-105, it’s just a question of what the camera gets priced at in Australia.
I would have happily bought the RP ages ago if they hadn't crammed in the ancient 6DII's sensor with its limited dynamic range. Despite the higher price tag, I think the more modern sensor and AF make the R8 a more appealing option for shooters considering their first full-frame camera. I still wish that Canon had a proper counterpart to Sony's A7C though.
The intro hits the nail on the head: the utter lack of mid-rage primes e.g. f1.4. Consider the 50mm prime options, a bargain basement pancake lens or a giant $2,200 f 1.2 showcase lens.
I feel like Canon isn't taking the camera game seriously. I have Fuji crop sensors in the XS-10 or X-T3 but in many ways I get more. I used to have a EOS RP and after watching this video, I still feel like the new R8 isn't tempting at all.
I have the same photo of the hallway taken in 2016. The best part is that there are postcards being sold of Charleston with a photo of the same hallway, also photos in hotels. Maybe a famous place, I don't know.
Hi, just got a new Canon R8 body, and on setting up I am facing several issues. Please help. I am using the Canon R8 with a Viltrox adaptor and Sigma 17-50 f/2.8 and Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 lens. Below are the issues: 1. While trying to set 'Image Quality', the image size is showing as 3744x2496 instead of 6000x4000 for both Raw and JPEG. 2. Under JPEG, only L and S2 are enabled, with rest of the options like M and S1 disabled for selection and grayed out. 3. Under 'Cropping/aspect ratio' only 1.6 (1.6x crop) is available for selection. Rest of the options (Full, 1:1, 4:3 and 16:9) are disabled for selection and grayed out. This issue is only when the Sigma lens is on. 4. On selecting 'Cropping/aspect ratio' as Full with the Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 lens on, I am getting heavy vignetting both from the EVF and LCD, as well as in the Image. This goes away after I zoom 15mm.
It was a bit distracting to not have the sensor part first. When Chris started to talk about the body I thought I missed something. Had to stop and quickly google if it was Fullframe to have that bit of missing context.
Great video thanks for the review. Is it just me or is this just the canon RP with upgraded firmware? And if that is the case, could most of these features could have just happened with firmware updates. I own several in the canon lineup and love them all, I just wonder because, there are not many firmware updates as there are always new camera releases.
In terms of sensor, AF and processing power the R8 is a huge upgrade over the RP. I doubt that the processor could handle the new subject recognition, even the current implementation of eye tracking is pretty slow. However the RP has been crippled by firmware. They could probably enable the dual pixel AF in 4K, make the electronic shutter available in all modes, add the focus guide and other stuff via software update. But they want you to buy a new camera instead. It's a shame.
One of the things I missed when downgrading from the R5 to the RP was the ability to add cropping information (not aspect ratio), which would show guide lines and 'pre-crop' the RAW file when importing to LR. I liked being able to add cropping info for 5:4. Is that available for the R8?
I currently have the EOS RP and was thinking of getting the R8. I am in no way a professional I am an average joe taking photos at Disneyland and so on. Would it be an upgrade in your opinion? And Would you upgrade from the RP? TIA
@@kevins8575 To repeat myself, i like the size as a secondary camera. The R6 is roughly the same size as the R5, so it makes more sense to go for an extra R5 then.
Hi, I have a technical question! Why Jordan doesn't use voice isolation technology (like voice isolation in Davinci resolve) to missed environment noises? Ah, sorry, my English is awful.
The insane compromises people are willing to go through just so they can have a (poor) full frame sensor at the price of a can of pringles is mind-boggling. Just get an X-T5 for $200 more JFC
Seems pretty decent. Generally a smarter option than going with the RP if the user does anything with video but in this tier and extra $500 is quite a bit. Though it's kind of sad the EVF and ergonomic benefits require going up to the R6ii (or getting an R6 if available).
There's a way to control AF points and select a subject without using a touchscreen, at least it works with the Eos R. One can assign an af selection initiation to one of 4 buttons of the D-pad (I assigned it to the Up button), and then you have a 4-way "joystick" to move AF-points or select your subject, or to magnify liveview image. When you got used to this method it works fairly quick. And you have 3 other buttons left to assign other functions.
@@sadovski.pavel.photography Least that is an option then, I'd have no problems using a D pad v a joystick. Thought it might have made sense to have designed it for that, and added a few extra buttons to compensate.
Very informative review, as someone with an EOS RP, I do wonder where to put my 50mm f1.8 stm and my 24-105 stm. Do I put the 50mm on the RP or the R8 ?
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i wanted to buy this R8 but Im really curious with the effect of its first curtain / electronic shutter in strobe photography. No one demonstrate this in youtube. Does it matter if I use F1.4/1.8 + 1/8000 shutterspeed using strobe?
No Ibis in 2023 is a no-go. When we went with Canon, we had to accept at least one crippled feature on every enthusiast camera launched since 2000. This is so annoying.
11:15 The Z5 has A LOT more on the R8 than just nicer controls and a better EVF. It also has IBIS, an actual mechanical shutter that goes to 1/8000s, a full sized battery, dual card slots and its weather sealed. All for $300 less than the crippled R8, which should sell for around $800 for what little you get. I chose the Z5 over the R8 and Im primarily a Canon shooter. Do better Canon.
Seriously considering the R8 because of USB-C power and limitless, per say, record time. I have a Ninja V, so single card slot is not an issue. But, can the R8 record to both the SD card and external recorder?
Can you burst SLOWER than 40 fps with the e-shutter? On the R5 & R6, there is no fps control, it's just full blast. Canon really needs to offer a slower silent burst rate than 20 or 40 fps. That's way more frames per "moment" than you might want in work like theater or weddings.
You can choose from different burst modes which roughly translate into 40fps, 20fps and 5fps like on the R6 II. At least that is what I heard from someone who was able to test the R8.
R5 = full frame
R6 = full frame
R7 = APS-C
R8 = full frame
what a weird naming scheme
Should be RP mark 2, but I understand they're trying to simplify the line.
Makes the R8 look like an afterthought because the r5, r6, and r7 are in line with their dslr predecessors (5d(ff), 6d(ff) and 7d(aps-c).
R10 APS-C, R33 APS-C and R66 will be full-frame 😛
classique camera manufacturers...
i would make camera per use cases with a animal name for exemple and then increment the version/edition per year or so.
5D full frame, 6D full frame, 7D aps-c… I guess the odd one is the new R8 replacing the rp . Back in the DSLR times canon didn’t have a cheaper full frame alternative whereas these days competition has forced them to have a cheaper “6D”. My guess
"Fix this, it's annoying" - every review needs this segment, including Chris' still photography review. Worth doing some back-and-forth mode switching (aperture priority auto ISO to flash manual to sports shutter priority to self timer and back again) for stills to look for weird annoyances, defaults and disabled functionality in a lot of cameras.
Examples of bad designs for still photography seen in the wild:
- self timer stays on when turning the camera off and on again (bad - you can lose a shot by missing a moment if you forget to turn the timer off, conversely you don't "lose" a posed timer shot when it turns off by itself, you just try again)
- turning on flash requires dialing through the entire ISO range to reach base ISO from auto ISO every time (it's annoying)
- daylight flash overexposes the image because the camera forces flash sync speed instead of delivering HSS at high shutter speed (especially for entry level cameras)
- camera forces flash off in macro because it assumes internal flash is used (to prevent casting a shadow from the lens)
- unexplained disabled featured (needs "why is this disabled" tooltip in menus)
They really should have upgraded the battery. It's not just an inconvenience. The battery life on my RP is atrocious.
haha do you know Canon is really good at making a imperfection camera? haha
Shot 500 photos yesterday with the my Sony A7iii and it still has 88% battery life remaining.
@@YaYousef5 yea lol my a7 iii for some reason takes so many shots before it goes out
So people will buy canon r6 mk ii lmao
This Body is far more efficient than the RP but I still think the battery should have been bigger.
It feels like the main purpose of the R8 is to make the R6 II a more attractive camera. Canon probably want us to go play with the R8 then say wow, the R6 II is a such great camera with better screens better EVF, butter control layout and buttons.....
Lol. I agree.
I hope those who play with r8 and r6ii, also play with s5ii then 'wow..... Canon is really good at annoying customers'
I disagree. I'm looking for a entry level full frame camera. As an amatuer this gives me most of what I need at $1k less. Thats pretty compelling. The cheapest Sony is the A7C which doesn't do 4k60. And even the newer A7IV has a crop. So I imagine the rumored A7CII will be close to $700 more and only do 4k60 with a crop. The only downside at this point in lense selection.
@@richrollin4867 IBIS and IS into that term bring more stability. With IBIS - 4.5 stops, with IBIS - IS combined - up to 7.5 stops. It's *not* an advantage, it's what it was going on since xx years this way, Canons 28-135 IS USM came out into 1998, and featured IS (Image Stabilizer, also it was good only for roughly 2 stops). Canons EF 75-300/F4-.5.6 IS USM was 1995 the #1 lens with IS, from Canon.
@@cjenkins79 you can get a7iv with sigma 24-70 2.8 for 300$ less than r8 with 24-70. in no way r8 is a good deal
About the weird naming scheme, it's the "7" that's the odd one out. They should have dropped the idea coming the dslr and go with two digits scheme only for aps-c, like R10 is the top of the line, then R20, R30 etc, following by Mark II, III, IV as they're doing with FF models.
You're right!
The nice thing about the Canon R8 is it will force Nikon to up their game with the Z5 II coming out later this year. The Z5 has better ergonomics, two card slots, IBIS, a larger battery and now the availability of third party lenses. Nikon will have to upgrade the auto focus and video specs, but the result will be a very professional full frame camera for the same price as the R8. While the Canon R8 looks to be a great entry level full frame camera, the lack of IBIS and two card slots is a deal breaker for many professionals. Thanks for the competition Canon!
Yes, but the Z5 is already ahead in a few aspects... mainly dual card slots and IBIS. The Z5 is more so designed for stills shooters with the ability to shoot things like 4k with a heavy crop (one of its biggest drawbacks). The burst rate is slow, but nothing that we didn't have in DSLR days (and people still got great wildlife shots with 4-5 fps). Nikon does need to improve their AF system, but I think that will not come to the Z5, as I suspect there will never be a Z5 II. What there will be is the Z6 III (And the Z6 II will become the new middle-of-the-road FF camera for those who want more than entry level, but not the latest version either for cost reasons). Followed by a Z8 (which I'm thinking will be a mini Z9 with some limitations -- and then possibly a Z7 III which I'm predicting will get a little improvement in AF (but not to the Z9 or Z8 level) but a resolution bump (to 60MP using Sony's 60MP sensor found in the A7 IV and V).
Part of the reason we won't likely see a Z5 II is that Nikon would have to put a different sensor in it, which isn't the end of the world, but the most logical choice would be to give it the Z6 sensor, but then that makes you wonder who would buy a Z6 series body if the two have the same sensors and the two could do 4k (the reason the Z5 has the heavy crop is due to the readout speed of the older FSI sensor -- presumably the same one found in the D750 with modifications for on-sensor AF -- presumably cannot perform a full sensor readout that would be fast enough unless it did something like line-skipping which people hate).
I think Nikon might just call it Z6III instead of Z5II........
Looking forward to the same video mode as CanonR8
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Canon R8 is much lighter camera than the Z5, I guess thats what Canon wanted to go for, a super lightweight full frame camera, it weights almost as much as the Sony ZV-E1 at 461g, lighter than even the Sony A7c although it lacks IBIS which both the Sony bodies do have for similar weight.
Nothing really special about the R8... it's middle of the pack. I think the Z6 II is about equal, and i'd even say the Z5 about as good.
As a canon r7 user I’ll save up for a r6 mark ii
Yea me too
I have the r6 mark II and do not regret it. Upgraded from the RP.
Hundreds of different R-cameras but not much lenses and cutting of 3rd party manufacturers. The new cameras are clearly aimed at people just buying a kit and that's it.
All EF and EF-S lenses are compatible just use Canon's inexpensive lens adapter.
@@video_logicnot ef-s only ef. However, there’s an endless number of ef lenses both affordable and expensive as hell to equip the r series canons.
All ef lenses will work with the adapter
0:36 I will continue to say this but the RF 85mm F2 IS Macro is an underrated gem and I find those who trash it are not the target audience. It is an excellent street-level lens.
The AF is just not quick enough for fast moving subjects.
@@Barricade217 I use it with the R6 and I have to ask, exactly how fast-moving are we talking?
Because if you are taking photos of running dogs on a field the 70-200 (EF or RF) is the better option for sure but as a general purpose street lens, I never had any issues. Even a fast police car became a nice, dramatic photo for me. And taking photos at the local aquarium, the 70-200 was left in the bag.
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I shoot a lot of concert stuff, having an 85 f/2 would be pretty nice, however the AF just isn’t fast enough. It hunts a lot
Another issue I have is, that I shoot video. Every video I’ve seen mention the focus motor is pretty loud and you’ll hear it clear as day in your shot
@@Barricade217 Ah yes. I completely agree its not a video lens.
@@Barricade217 what camera do you use? Did you tweek your af settings?
Thanks for showing the screen resolutions by height and width instead of just dots. Way easier to understand.
Had to pause the video right there and check the comments to see if someone had said this. I agree. I hate the "x million dots" that camera manufacturers are stuck using.
Dont ever understate the imagination of canon when it comes to cripling cameras: el 1st shuter, 6fps, low battery power, etc...
Segmentation. More money.
Dude what camera from other brands is this hood at the price point tho?
@@themediocrephotographer1301 , z6 was sold for about 1000$ 24 mpx, full frame bsi cmos, 10 fps, 4k. 1/8000 mecanical, better evf. The sell point for canon is its autofocus and digic x.
@@planetfun85 They did cut it back a bit too much. Obviously trying to protect the R6II
I didn't expect 2 slots, but the lack of IBIS and the small battery well they could have given one of those, the battery has no place on any camera it's pretty bad on the RP let alone this!
They probably employ a global team of few 1000 people just on their R&D Camera Cripple team.
I’m curious how this compares to the R7. I know that’s an APS-C sensor but for the same price it offers: IBIS, dual-card slot, joystick, weather sealing, higher MP sensor, higher shooting speeds. And now you can get a speed booster for it.
R7 is better but it’s also bigger, heavier and you don’t get ff sensor is what it seems like.
The R7 is better for sports and wildlife photography.
APS-C so as always it mostly depends on how much you need the wide-to-normal focal lengths for your work
@@alvareo92 10-20mm lenses for ef-s mount cameras arent too expensive. Canon makes one, so do sigma and tamron.
Otoh the benefits for apsc is in wildlife and sports photography. Turns your everyday 70-200mm into something real special.
The R7 gets its auto focus system from the R3. While the R8 gets its auto focus system from the R6 Mark2. So was wondering if there is a significant difference in the Subject Detection Auto Focus performance between the R7 & R8.
And yes... thanks for yet another highly informative review!
Quality Review from the best in the Field. Keep it up guys
I like how Chris and Jordan secretly showed us the rolling effects from 5:42 onwards. Really clever stuff.
3:58 In addition to cutting the bokeh, EFCS (electronic front curtain shutter) may also introduce an artificial chromatic aberration, because the curtain and CMOS are not on a same vertical plain. An example of chromatic aberration introduced by a high speed EFCS is your sony 35 1.4GM review.
Nikon now needs a Z5 II without the 4K crop. I still think, because of the weather sealing, dual card slots, and IBIS, the Z5 might be a better option for a lot of people.
If you are willing to buy used, you can do even better like the Z6 II for a similar price to the R8 or maybe a Sony a7 III for less.
Avoid the Z5 as it struggles in medium indoor light focusing, especially with slower glass.
I've been shooting Nikon ML's for three years (DSLR's since 2000,) and they've left the chat. Canon and Nikon are only an option if you want to part with $10,000+ to build a kit. My A7C bridges the gap between the Z50 and Z7II and has more reliable AF. It also has affordable native f2.8 Tamron zoom lenses for it, and f1.x primes that fit in a regular jacket pocket.
@@skyrunr Do you even have a Z5? It doesn't struggle at all, even in harsh lit rooms , the new update also improved low light focusing , although Nikon hasn't mentioned it in the log. It now has the same Z6ii AF in normal shooting conditions too. Even with F4 glass it's lot snappier in focusing.
@@Blitz_Shorts Everything focuses under normal shooting conditions these days. The Z6II is a low bar for AF-C tracking. It depends on the level of reliability and speed you need. Given the Z6II's hardware differences, the Z5 shouldn't be close in low light. The Z30 keeps up with the Z7II, but that doesn't mean either are remotely as reliable as my current A7C.
Not a single feature has trickled down to the II's from the Z9. Linear focusing doesn't count. Nikon still doesn't make a single FX body with an articulating screen. I say this as their biggest fan. I have a bag of z-glass waiting for the next body, but not a 61mp one. :)
I do have the RP and honestly, despite lacking 2 megapixels (which isn't much, let's be honest), the R8 seems like a worthy successor, especially in the video front. I still don't like the LP-E17, only +1 fps burst rate is laughable (40 fps electronic makes up for it though). EFCS is kinda annoying but that really what makes this camera incredibly compact, even compared to some APS-C cameras (if you look closely there's no "body" underneath the mount, it's extraordinary). Auto Focus improvement is a further plus too.
edit: a freaking micro-HDMI replaces the mini-HDMI. wtf canon.
Super aggressive price point for the specs, especially video. Battery life is going to be the main concern but I hear you can charge over USB at least. Also looking forward to overheating measurements in 4K.
Cripple hammer really hit the batteries this time. We canon r users have to really move up to the r 6 or r 6 ii. Was really hoping for a horizontal upgrade path.
How is the editing of the video files? Do you still need an m1? Are the codecs easy to work with?
I got the answer: you need an M chip.
In UK R8 costs £1700 and Lumix S5II £2000. The choice is obvious, you get much more from Panasonic and you have access to excellent and affordable Sigma lenses! I have Canon M50 but this is most likely the last Canon I bought. If this camera was £1200 that could make sense but still you need to fork out £3000 for nice 24-70f2.8 lens from Canon when excellent sigma 24-70 costs £1050. Do the math yourself. Bye Canon!
Yes there’s no choice whatsoever, why would you get this over the S5ii in the U.K. or indeed the new R50 over one of the 3 Nikon APS-C or the Sony or Fuji? The R8 and the new R50 seem massively overpriced for such crippled cameras compared to the competition.
I wish it was that simple, while the S5ii has a number of advantages, it is also using a lot older sensor. Despite the r8 not having IBIS, it is very tempting for me (I am also after a small camera).
@@markdurdle7710 for me the lens lineup would be the deciding factor. i feel like thats where L-mount has an advantage
Youre ignoring the massive amount of EF lenses on the new and used market, both by Canon and 3rd parties like Sigma. I can get the R8 and a used Canon 50mm f1.2 L lens for a bit over 2 grand. Thats pretty nice.
@@mattm3023 does it focus well in video? I have heard that only RF glass has good auto focus, old lenses have old motors and are either too slow or too noisy.
It's 8 months later, reviews have been positive, I just ordered it. I can live without what the R6 MkII offers, especially for about half the cost.
If they had fitted IBIS they’d have a real winner. No IBIS in a modern full frame does not compute, aside from shaving a small amount of cost and not cannibalising the sales of much more expensive cameras. For hybrid and video shooters, there’s no comparison here compared to the S5ii.
Another issue with Canons is the third party lenses. I have a Nikon Z30 and Panasonic G9. The Nikon APSC cameras have the fabulous Viltrox lenses, in particular the 13mm F1.4. The LUMIX has the Sigma 16mm.
Not just shaving cost but also size and weight. Even then I would be very surprised if the Mark II didn't have it either
The Canon yacht R8 does have Joy stick for autofocus. It's the up down side to side
This. Works pretty well, not so fast as the joystick, but it's just an option. It's a shame that it isn't mentioned...
If you do not need 4k60 10 bit, Canon R for $100 less I think makes more sense, or even Panasonic S5 (which has IBIS).
You 2 should start making travel videos. I was impressed by what I saw of Charleston . Looks like a beautiful place.
Thanks for the review !
With Canon is that we keep getting back to the same problem : lens diversity. Especially at this price point where affordable quality lenses from 3rd party manufacturers is greatly needed.
Sony goes for lenses, Canon for cameras. I wish we could have both.
When I last looked into third party solutions, I only saw canon suing and threatening companies to stop making new lenses.
again, canon forcing that crap LPE17 battery on people. They learned nothing from the RP backlash.
Exactly. I am not buying anything new from canon, unless they allow 3rd party manufacturers to produce RF lenses.
What is a entrylevel fullframe good for, when any good lens from canon costs $2000+ and I have to buy mediocre f2 lenses.
I made a mistake of buying R6 and fully switching to RF mount. Now I have worse lenses I had with my DSLR.
Not everyone is from USA. I make median sallary in my country, witch is 1000€ a month and I will never justify buying 2800€ lens for my photography hobby.
Agreed they need more affordable lenses. But in their defense the A7CII is rumored to have 4k60 crop and going to cost $2200. So you're talking about the R8 as an arguable better camera that is $700 cheaper. That $700 will go a decent way towards a buyers first lense or two. By then their should be more options.
At 9:02 you mention 4 channel audio capabilities on the hot shoe (cold shoe?) mount on top of the camera. However, I cannot find any lavalier microphone product that uses this shoe exclusively for the power source and data transfer. Every lavalier microphone I have found has to be plugged into the audio jack of the camera, which is inconvenient and seemingly unnecessary if you own this camera. Do you know of any reasonably-priced lavalier microphones (less than $200) that don't require a separate plug in to the audio jack? Or is this mostly a high-priced professional option?
Do you prefer R7 over R8 or not?
Was it shot magically last autumn or you do have spring now there? 🙃
Let's be honest, this is mostly a good video camera . For photography, c'mon, no proper weather-sealing, one card slot, no mechanical shutter, abysmal battery life, and worst of all, lack of third party lenses, and the RF glass among the most expensive, almost twice the price of this body. A second hand Sony A7RIII, A7III, will be cheaper and will offer you a plethora of compatible lenses. I know Canon AF is great, but that just a part of the equation.
"RF glass among the most expensive, almost twice the price of this body"
Really? The only RF lenses you see are the $3000 ones? There at least 10 RF lenses prices under $500, anything from 15mm to 800mm.
Nice quick review. At $1499 it is really a great camera. I researched Sigma fp, which is about the same cost but lack the AF and other still photo features. This is a very good starter for full frame. It makes a lot sense to have this and use the saved money on a better lens, which R8 can take full advantage with the same sensor as R6 ii.
Just get a used S5 for 1100$. If you don't need good video AF it's perfect! For photo it's totally fine amd it has killer video features that even 2500$ sony/canon cameras do not have :)
I’ve also been considering the fp. In my country it’s cheaper body-only than the R8. The swivel-screen is helpful imo.
The main reason people buy the sigma FP now is it’s ability to record CinemaDNG. Effectively making it one of the smallest full frame cinema cameras available. If photos are your priority, there are better options.
I lived in that area of Charleston for nearly a decade. Fun seeing you guys there!
3rd party manufacturers like Neewer will make a vertical grip for the R8 so battery life will be double and it will be fine for big hands. they already make one for the RP using the 2.5mm socket on the side to control the vertical shutter. Might even fit on the New R8 assuming the body is exactly the sames, which it seems to be. Only downside of 3rd party grips are the grips needs to be removed to access the SD card.
This is quite a negative review. I’ve got the R8 and love it. Would even say its an entry level Professional camera.
No, it's not. It's got a crap EVF, no IBIS, no mechanical shutter, a toy battery from a crop sensor camera, one card slot and no weather sealing. It's a stripped down and crippled entry level camera that should be about $800. The Nikon Z5 with its 3.69 milldot EVF, IBIS, 1/8000s mechanical shutter, dual card slots, full sized battery and weather sealing is an entry level pro camera and its $300 cheaper than the R8. You have to move up to the $2500 R6II to get the same features you get in the $1200 Z5. Canon is overpriced.
Isn't the "wibbly wobbly" distortion at the edges in video caused by digital IS, rather than IBIS?
Nope. It’s the ibis. No issues on the R5C either
Oversampled uncropped 4k60fps video and 40fps electronic shutter stills for $1500 is pretty impressive. That battery makes me cry though.
Even Jordan didn’t care about the r8 by easily getting distracted 😂
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You can use the dials to adjust the af point if you get off the main info screen to the af screen
The state of the art AF was all over the place in this one.
You can use the d pad to select focus points
You guys are the best, with banter back and forth. Looks like a great camera
I have R6 and RP combo for work. R8 looks promising as a secondary/support camera.
Unfortunately the price is kinda unattractive since you can almost get a nice used R6 for that cost.
I have to try out if you can set a control button to toggle between autofocus modes directly. It was not possible on the RP.
Looks great, but I’d miss that AF joystick
I have been thinking about getting Canon Eos R, I know its an older camera but has a lot of good features and good capabilities overall. I waited for the announcement of R8. It would be amazing if you would make a short video on the comparison or even if you could just reply to this comment stating what would be your choice between Eos R and Eos R8. I'd greatly appreciate it.
If you don't need a great fast autofocus and don't shoot video - buy Eos R.
@@sadovski.pavel.photography To add to your point about "great autofocus". The need for "great autofocus" should be when we shoot something that move REALLY FAST like birds or sports or indoor actions at lower light because if we shoot portraits, landscape, or even street photography, even a Nikon D2X can autofocus just fine.
@@thegrayyernaut no, great AF is not only speed, it is overall performance, eye detection, subject tracking and so on. I currently shoot with both R and R6 and I can assure you - Eos R AF sucks even comparing to R6 mark 1.
One thing that would speak for the original R is the body design. Of course the R didnt have a joystick as well, but it´s still a fairly professional-grade camera with a big grip, good battery (LP-E6N(H)) and is overall relatively robust. You get the top LCD and the touchbar (if used in combo with the "Lock" button) can be useful as well. The screen on the R has a pretty high resolution by the way - same as the R5, so better than both R6 & R6 Mk II.
The video with 1080p ALL-I is pretty high quality if you need it, in 4K you´ll of course have to work with the crop. Depends on what you want to shoot with it.
If you shoot a lot of landscape, travel or simple portraits, I´d probably pick the R over the R8. You have a bit more resolution and the body is solid. I always found the R´s AF perfectly useable for everything that is within a "normal" range of photography.
The R only struggles hard with moving subjects due to the low framerate. Even if the AF keeps tracking, you´ll likely miss the subject after the first shots as the viewfinder refresh is too slow.
@@sadovski.pavel.photography I'll consider it a problem with my skills. AF Speed is something I can't hone, the other qualities of my photo's focus, if failed, are on me.
Is the rolling shutter in 4k30 and 4k60 still bad on the R8? I do aviation videos and the rolling shutter on airshows destroys my footage because any vibrations at longer zoom ranges (150mm for example) makes the planes deform. That is one of the reasons why I still have my Sony RX10IV, which handles it way better than any Canon I've used.
R8 replaced rp? I can't wait for z5 2
Nope. R8 replaces the R. RP is still around at the sub $1k level.
Funny to see that, when Olympus introduced the trains, planes, cars tracking AF features back in the EM1X era, everybody made fun of it. And, now... Even Canon has it
The R8 has Full HD 180p as well and there is no 4K 60 recording limit per se, it just will overheat eventually.
Since it has Canon RP body, i actually wondering if it can record in 1080p when you use EF/EF-S lens. RP does shoot in 1080p but 720p when you use EF/EF-S lens which is a downsize to me
This could make a good upgrade for me, already got a lighter tripod and a couple of the same batteries from my 200Dii. Mainly I just want video with a lot more dynamic range, and the choice of higher frame rate too. I’d be looking at buying the variable aperture 24-105, it’s just a question of what the camera gets priced at in Australia.
Holy cow. R8 is truly out
I would have happily bought the RP ages ago if they hadn't crammed in the ancient 6DII's sensor with its limited dynamic range.
Despite the higher price tag, I think the more modern sensor and AF make the R8 a more appealing option for shooters considering their first full-frame camera.
I still wish that Canon had a proper counterpart to Sony's A7C though.
The intro hits the nail on the head: the utter lack of mid-rage primes e.g. f1.4. Consider the 50mm prime options, a bargain basement pancake lens or a giant $2,200 f 1.2 showcase lens.
$1199 USD. Body only. Not too shabby.
I feel like Canon isn't taking the camera game seriously. I have Fuji crop sensors in the XS-10 or X-T3 but in many ways I get more. I used to have a EOS RP and after watching this video, I still feel like the new R8 isn't tempting at all.
I have the same photo of the hallway taken in 2016. The best part is that there are postcards being sold of Charleston with a photo of the same hallway, also photos in hotels. Maybe a famous place, I don't know.
Hey, does this camera have an AF joystick? The review left me wondering, because they only mentioned it doesn't… what, five times? Six times?
indeed. AF joystick is a bit overweighted, especially nowadays with touch screen and intelligent AF
It does not have an AF joystick J.L.! For the seventh time!
Hi, just got a new Canon R8 body, and on setting up I am facing several issues. Please help.
I am using the Canon R8 with a Viltrox adaptor and Sigma 17-50 f/2.8 and Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 lens. Below are the issues:
1. While trying to set 'Image Quality', the image size is showing as 3744x2496 instead of 6000x4000 for both Raw and JPEG.
2. Under JPEG, only L and S2 are enabled, with rest of the options like M and S1 disabled for selection and grayed out.
3. Under 'Cropping/aspect ratio' only 1.6 (1.6x crop) is available for selection. Rest of the options (Full, 1:1, 4:3 and 16:9) are disabled for selection and grayed out. This issue is only when the Sigma lens is on.
4. On selecting 'Cropping/aspect ratio' as Full with the Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 lens on, I am getting heavy vignetting both from the EVF and LCD, as well as in the Image. This goes away after I zoom 15mm.
It was a bit distracting to not have the sensor part first. When Chris started to talk about the body I thought I missed something. Had to stop and quickly google if it was Fullframe to have that bit of missing context.
This video quality looks pretty good. I know you can't compare, but it sort of reminds me of the old 5d. In that sense, I think this will do well.
Great video thanks for the review. Is it just me or is this just the canon RP with upgraded firmware? And if that is the case, could most of these features could have just happened with firmware updates. I own several in the canon lineup and love them all, I just wonder because, there are not many firmware updates as there are always new camera releases.
In terms of sensor, AF and processing power the R8 is a huge upgrade over the RP. I doubt that the processor could handle the new subject recognition, even the current implementation of eye tracking is pretty slow. However the RP has been crippled by firmware. They could probably enable the dual pixel AF in 4K, make the electronic shutter available in all modes, add the focus guide and other stuff via software update. But they want you to buy a new camera instead. It's a shame.
One of the things I missed when downgrading from the R5 to the RP was the ability to add cropping information (not aspect ratio), which would show guide lines and 'pre-crop' the RAW file when importing to LR. I liked being able to add cropping info for 5:4. Is that available for the R8?
yes it is available in r8
Colours in video are beautiful. Thanks for the review boys.
I currently have the EOS RP and was thinking of getting the R8. I am in no way a professional I am an average joe taking photos at Disneyland and so on. Would it be an upgrade in your opinion? And Would you upgrade from the RP? TIA
I like the size. Tempted to use this as a second camera in addition to the R5. But incompatible battery systems ruins it of course.
Exactly ! That’s what I was thinking too
If you're shooting with an R5, this is probably not a camera for you - the R6 mk II may be.
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To repeat myself, i like the size as a secondary camera. The R6 is roughly the same size as the R5, so it makes more sense to go for an extra R5 then.
Would be interesting to see a comparison between R8 and S5 II
S5 deatroys canon
Hi, I have a technical question! Why Jordan doesn't use voice isolation technology (like voice isolation in Davinci resolve) to missed environment noises? Ah, sorry, my English is awful.
Why is the screen smaller than the Canon 90D?? It has less screen size. There’s a huge black chunk on the left.
The insane compromises people are willing to go through just so they can have a (poor) full frame sensor at the price of a can of pringles is mind-boggling. Just get an X-T5 for $200 more JFC
Seems pretty decent. Generally a smarter option than going with the RP if the user does anything with video but in this tier and extra $500 is quite a bit. Though it's kind of sad the EVF and ergonomic benefits require going up to the R6ii (or getting an R6 if available).
especially because you can get the RP used for a third of the price
Canon EOS R8: No IBIS, lens-based stabilization only. Almost bought this camera until I saw this. Good to do some research first. 🙂
Love my R8, it's still a great camera
Hello . Canon r8 + ef rf adapter+ tamron 24-70 f2.8 g2 + canon ex 430 Speedlite?
will the mount hold it?
and grip camera R8 ?
There's a way to control AF points and select a subject without using a touchscreen, at least it works with the Eos R. One can assign an af selection initiation to one of 4 buttons of the D-pad (I assigned it to the Up button), and then you have a 4-way "joystick" to move AF-points or select your subject, or to magnify liveview image. When you got used to this method it works fairly quick. And you have 3 other buttons left to assign other functions.
Is there a way to do it with the D pad just as the AF point selection? In other words you don't have to press a button first?
@@MrBazReviews Yes, you can directly use D pad to move AF point, but in this case you lose 3 custom buttons.
@@sadovski.pavel.photography Least that is an option then, I'd have no problems using a D pad v a joystick. Thought it might have made sense to have designed it for that, and added a few extra buttons to compensate.
Hi, just curious regarding losing the histogram and horizon level when start recording, do you also lose the gridline too?
Very informative review, as someone with an EOS RP, I do wonder where to put my 50mm f1.8 stm and my 24-105 stm. Do I put the 50mm on the RP or the R8 ?
I took 700 photos with a single battery still showing 2 lines out of 3. How was that possible?
R6 MK II sensor in it?? Holy shit!!
Lol this camera looks awful
stuck between R10 or R8 or R50 ? I do lot of travelling and shoot wildlife and landscape. Not professional though. please suggest.
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i wanted to buy this R8 but Im really curious with the effect of its first curtain / electronic shutter in strobe photography. No one demonstrate this in youtube. Does it matter if I use F1.4/1.8 + 1/8000 shutterspeed using strobe?
Still trying to decide whether to get the Nikon Z5 or wait till April for Canon's R8. Any thoughts?
On my Canon RP, the dual pixel autofocus doesn’t work when shooting in 4K. Does 4K recording on the R8 have any autofocus limitations?
No Ibis in 2023 is a no-go. When we went with Canon, we had to accept at least one crippled feature on every enthusiast camera launched since 2000. This is so annoying.
Thanks! How are the colors on this camera for video? Are they the same as the Canon R5 out of camera?
I confused whether i buy Lumix s5 ii or canon eos R8, please make comparison about those 2 🥲
Why are reviews never in HDR? I'm looking for a camera that does HDR well. No way of seeing that here, or in any other of the videos.
2:26 Jordan "..Governor of California" it's Carolina 😂
So say I’m upgrading from the T3i from 2011…. The R8 seems like a crazy good upgrade?
11:15 The Z5 has A LOT more on the R8 than just nicer controls and a better EVF. It also has IBIS, an actual mechanical shutter that goes to 1/8000s, a full sized battery, dual card slots and its weather sealed. All for $300 less than the crippled R8, which should sell for around $800 for what little you get. I chose the Z5 over the R8 and Im primarily a Canon shooter. Do better Canon.
Seriously considering the R8 because of USB-C power and limitless, per say, record time. I have a Ninja V, so single card slot is not an issue. But, can the R8 record to both the SD card and external recorder?
Cool review! How does it compare to fujifilm x-s10 considering they are so similarly priced?
Wish you keep the models up while you talk about it because I heard the shutter makes no noise
When will Canon replace the R8 or do we think it will be manufactured for some time yet?
Can you burst SLOWER than 40 fps with the e-shutter? On the R5 & R6, there is no fps control, it's just full blast. Canon really needs to offer a slower silent burst rate than 20 or 40 fps. That's way more frames per "moment" than you might want in work like theater or weddings.
You can choose from different burst modes which roughly translate into 40fps, 20fps and 5fps like on the R6 II. At least that is what I heard from someone who was able to test the R8.
Is this the replacement for the RP or is there still an RP (version 2) expected?
It has RPs body, RPs battery, 2.36M EVF, single curtain shutter, 24mp... and it replaces R? At this point Canon just insults our intelligence...
It replaces the RP, I don't know why he says R... It has the exact same body as RP so it obviously is replacing that...
@@DigitalStaffCanon said it replaces the r in their official statement so he is correct
Is the AF better than on the Sony a 7c? Same Price…
hey, how do you see it compared to the original r6?