The Strange Looking Train from Sweden to Copenhagen! - Øresundståg Review
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In today's video I will be trying out the international service between Southern Sweden and Copenhagen, Denmark. My trip will be from Malmö to Copenhagen in First Class.
Now this is an expensive journey, but is the ride on this international connection any good? And is it worth upgrading to First Class?
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Journey Details:
Origin: Malmö Centralstation
Destination: Københavns Hovedbanegård (Copenhagen main station)
Company: Øresundståg (DSB + SJ)
Train: SJ X31K 'Bombardier Contessa'
Accommodation: First Class Seat (1st)
Distance: 25 miles / 40 kilometres
Price: 186 kr.- (£15.50 / €18.40 / $20.90)
Time: 36m + 5L
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I think it is important to mention why the trip is so expensive. The Öresund bridge is 100 percent user funded. The prices initially covered the construction cost, and more lately the maintenance costs.
No because they scam us!
And because dsb are greedy
@@Giffellover89 Not DSB's fault. DSB don't even run the services which cross the bridge AFAIK.
@@epender DSB does run trains all the way to Malmö c and domestic tickets in Denmark are still more expensive than the ones in sweden
@@Giffellover89 DSB doesn't have anything to do with setting the prices. Those are all part of a national fare scheme determined by the municipalities, the regions, and the state.
The only prices that DSB can set are the Orange discount tickets, which can get really really cheap if you buy a week before.
0:45 Restaurants in Malmö station's food court open for lunch and in the afternoon. It's not common in Sweden to sit down for breakfast in a railway station.
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An interesting thing to mention about the strange looking front of the train is that it is as aerodynamic as a the sharp point of a X2 for instance. The rubber ring captures a cushion of air when the train moves forward that slides thru the air, making it very aerodynamic. The pressure of the rubber ring adapts to the speed of the train. My father was a mechanic on those trains and explained that to me.
Thanks. That's very interesting, and surprising!
Why didn't you show the passage on the inside between two coupled units? That is the most interesting feature of these trains! The whole cab sways to the side. I have travelled on these trains. Called them "Schlauchzug".
Gumminasen. that is what some germans call the IC3 diesel trains and the ER4 electric trains.
@@SimonRaahauge1973 Gummi Nasen translates to “gummy nose”
@@natalialabun4066 Or just 'The rubber nose'.
O I did not know that the whole cab can sway aside. So than, when coupled, you can indeed walk through!
If the driver's cab actually moves (?), it seems quite a complicated solution compared to normal corridor connections, including those used on the southern lines in Britain since 1938 which include driver's cabs. Those again are regularly joined and separated in a couple of minutes. The passage is to the side of the cab.
Took this route a few years back, one interesting feature is the electronic information and reservation displays. When the train reaches the first Danish station the displays change from Swedish to Danish, and vice versa in the opposite direction.
It's just that the reservation displays are never in use and have never ever been in use. At least not on the Swedish side.
@@rickardkarlsson2245 part of the problem with the reservations is because DSB and SJ use different computer systems, so they can't communicate the reservations to each other, and thus you get that issue where only some of the seats can be reserved
@@thesteelrodent1796 yeah but sj doesent controll them in sweden. Skånetrafiken does
@@thesteelrodent1796 the reason for only some seats being reservable is because of DSB 1’ i’m pretty sure. People pay a subscription to be able to sit in 1’ class, so seats have to be available.
Just a guess though
The name "Øresundståg" (literally "Øresund train") is itself a mix of Danish and Swedish. "Øresund" is the Danish spelling, "tåg" the Swedish. If we were to flip them around, we´d have "Öresundstog". (the infix 's' is used to link the two words, thus creating a compound noun).
Travelled from Copenhagen Airport to Kalmar a couple of weeks ago (just shy of 4 hours) in the same seat and it was perfectly comfortable the whole way
Also done this route many times, sometimes falling asleep, which must mean I was pretty comfortable. It is a solid option if travelling to Kalmar from abroad, flying in to Copenhagen rather than Stockholm.
I can confirm that too, having done the Malmo - Kalmar trip on one of these back in 2007. Good way to see the southern Swedish landscape.
As a Swede, I was baffled to hear you state that the train ride was expensive. Compared to what I'm used to paying for other train trips in Sweden, I'd call it dirt cheap.
If 62p/mile is expensive, then what would you consider cheap, and where are trains you consider cheap?
(Also, I would love a video on the X2000, as it is a bit of an icon, and a milestone in Swedish train history.)
For example, a high speed train from Berlin to Munich (linear distance 314 miles) can be had for 99€ in first class, which is 31ct/mile. Paris to Lyon (244 miles) starts from 49€ in first class, almost exactly 20ct/mile. You need to book in advance to get these low prices. If you want to compare regional trains, a train from Amsterdam to Utrecht (22mi) costs 8.40€ (there is no class distinction on that train as far as I can tell), which is 38 ct/mile.
@@Friek555 I Guess it's just me being used to what things cost in general at home, then. Thanks for the elaborate answer! :)
In the UK that seems pretty cheap. My train to work is over a pound per mile.
Det är välkänt att Malmö - Köpenhamn är bland de absolut dyraste tågresorna i Europa... Finns ett flertal reportage i svensk media om det.
@@Friek555 There is actually a class distinction on Dutch trains and the first class version will cost you around 14€, but I like the rest of your explanation of why Scandinavia is expensive to the rest of us 😉
10:31 cameo of the driverless metro 👏
So glad you've posted a new video, been checking every day, great adventures, thank you
What amazed me (as a Salisbury 159 driver), was that the driver's desk and controls swing sideways to enable coupling. I was lucky enough to travel on one that went across on the train ferry from Helsingborg 🇸🇪 to Helsingør 🇩🇰 back in 1999.
Also lucky to experience the loco hauled night sleeper from Hamburg to Køvenhaben via the Puttgarden to Rødby train ferry in 1996. Sad that these have ended.
Yeah, I missed out on most of the train ferries here. Did manage the one from Germany to Denmark though!
Salisbury 159 driver? You must have driven me many times then!
@@SuperalbsTravelsWhere did you get on the trains on my routes?
1999 to 2019 apart from 3 & 1/2 years back at Bomo 2004 to 2007. Had to retire early from Sals due to bad IBS, broke my heart after 31yrs on the railway (started Dec 87 with BR NSE at Bomo).
I just took this train 3 days ago LOL on my holiday to Sweden and then going on THIS EXACT train to Copenhagen.
And YESSS please do make a video on the SJ high speed train (X2) that goes at 125mph (200kph).
The rubber connecting cushions were originally made by a company in Burton Upon Trent for the Danish IC3 multiple unit train. I worked for Danish railways DSB’s head of design, Jens Nielsen, in the late 80s and he was rather proud of the English connection.
Great video, but as another guy wrote, the fold-aside cab unit is a key function.
That's really interesting! Never knew this typically Scandinavian design has its roots in my own country.
Jens Nielsen - together with Niels Tougaard Nielsen, can be seen as the fathers of the IC3 (and later Flexliner family of trains).
But IC3 wouldn't have been such a great train if it wasn't for the 3 main designers Ole Rossel, Anders Løvenkjær and Henrik Priess Christensen ;)
Swadlincote not Burton upon Trent, still being made now.
Great to see these responses! Burton wasn’t far out. My Stafford roots got the better of me, sorry Derbyshire!
I only knew Jens Nielsen, working directly for him in ‘88.
The diaphragm at the end/front of the wagon serves two purposes. One is as you say to connect the wagons, the other is that it makes the train more aerodynamic.
Back in 1995, I rode the former version, the IC3 from Trollhättan to Bonn. Yes, a 20 hour ride.
Living in Israel, I rode these many times since their introduction in 1991, yet some of these are still in service.
I even managed to operate and drive them few times.
This is one of the more interesting rolling stock, and should be preserved.
The IC3 are still the main trains of Denmark, despite being put into service in 1990, I'm sure they still have a lot of time left on the rails, the late 2000's IC4 will probably get scrapped or sold before the IC3s do, because the IC4s are a nightmare in comparison, at least mechanically.
@@epender My few trips in the IC4 (and the IC4-derived local trains - IC2), also showed that they are a nightmare from a comfort point of view. They seem far noisier than the IC3 trains, and the gearshifts are very abrupt, and seem to not be synchronized between the front and back gearbox, causing a shudder through the train as one shifts half a second before the other. For what it's worth, the suspension and seats seem on-par with the IC3 ones, which are still impressive.
I believe the danish railway museum In Odense will get the first rolling example. When retirement come...
But My many trips on the IC3/IR4 were fun.
In fact more comfy than the scandal IC4...
Triangeln is a square that is now shopping mall that, as its name suggests, is shaped like a triangle...sorta. The roads southward to Vellinge-Trelleborg and Oxie-Ystad split there, and a less ancient road eastwards cross the both of them, resulting in a triangular shape. And of course, there's a McDonald's too. Because it's McDonald's, they're all over the place. There's even one in my palace for me and Dennis Rodman
And the train you were on was originally built in Randers, Denmark before the manufacturing was moved to Sweden
We meet again.
Is it true that you are sending 100 thousand troops to Ukraine?
The trains were all built in Sweden by Adtranz (later Bombardier). The only Danish design on these trains is the front rubber design.
Another very well done video. Thank you!
Havn’t read all comments, so sorry for repeating if it’s the case.
The origin of the design, is the old IC3 trains, produced by scandia. (IRC in Fredericia.)
The general design has been re-used in several models. Most notasble the IR4.
As a Swede I must commend you on your very good pronunciations of Swedish and as a former train driver on the Öresundståg system I really enjoyed the video as a whole! Great work!
Thank you very much, glad to hear you enjoyed it.
I totally agree Björn 😁👍
@@SuperalbsTravels One note, though. Triangeln is actually pronounced "Triangelen"
Many thanks! Very informative.
As someone who has grown up with these trains, commuting and travelling with them wherever, I find this really strange that a brit is reviewing them. Makes me feel at home, thank you so much for showing, greetings from Höör
I did this route about 7 years ago. Love 🇩🇰 Denmark
1:57 is the best laugh I've had in a while🤣
...it's because they can fly away and cause an electric arc if they get nestled into the overhead catenary system (15000 volts) - it has happened. Also in København H...
I'm commuting every day in this train and I have to admit as a French guy I love it
Great video..been on this train line over the Öresund lots of times. Fab......Love Malmö.......and Copenhagen 🇸🇪🌁🇩🇰
I just took this train last week! An amazing display of international rail cooperation and an unbeatably fast and comfortable way to travel. Thanks for this video!
Why not, both Europeans !
Quite a decent option when flying from Kastrup, which a lot of people in southern Sweden do.
As a child, I used to take this exact train journey with my parents every year to get to the Copenhagen airport. The only difference is that we would board the train in the station with the triangle pattern, and I loved that station because while you were waiting for the train, there would be these… moving lights? I have no idea how to describe them, but they were in the black lines on the wall. (From the Copenhagen airport we would then travel to Turkey to visit my grandma and grandpa)
Are you talking about triangeln station in Malmö?
@@EliasLarsson-ck6qnMost likely
Another detail about the lights on the walls: When the lights are red, that means a train is coming or that a train left the station. If they are purple or blue, then there are no trains in sight.
I’ve been on this route before but it was so long ago that it was interesting to see this video because it shows how it is now
Yup, I wonder how much it has changed over the years...
Nice video - though I find it a bit odd that you only mention the 1st class price, when you highlighted the similarities between 1st and 2nd class. I have been on this ride several times, and the 1st class doesn’t seem like worth the upgrade, and therefore you should have highlighted that price also.
The 1st class ticket saves you from possibly crowded situations on these trains where seats are typically not reserved...
But yes, 2nd class is cheaper, and has additional discounts for children and families.
A lot of the time, especially during peak travel season. It is jam packed in the 2nd class train. The first class ticket both guarentees a seat, and if you need to work, its far less crowded and loud.
@@vonnikon - However, the majority of people travel 2nd class.
@@peterwhitey4992 1st class on these trains is just a small extra fee to get a guaranteed seat, and avoid crowding.
There is no other difference between 1st class and 2nd class on these trains.
@@vonnikon - I know. I travel on this line myself. The fact is, that the majority of people do not use 1st class on this train. Also, a regular ticket from Copenhagen to Malmö costs 91 dkk, while a first class ticket costs 131 dkk. I consider that a considerable difference.
Last time I was in the area not only had they not started on the fixed link, they hadn't even finish the Great Belt bridge, so it was train ferries to get to Zeeland no matter which direction you approached. It was good fun even if less efficient. Definitely time to revisit. Great video.
That is a long time ago! I believe the Great Belt Bridge (and Tunnel) opened up in 1998, so I would have been ten years old. Now it kind of feels like it’s always been there.
@@meh23p yeah about 1994 I think
In the good old days, you had to arrive in your car ideally a quarter of an hour before the ferry sailed (for an hour!). Today you have passed the Storebælt (Great Belt) before the former waiting time has passed! And this is why no one, actually needing transport, misses the ferries!😄
@@joegrey9807 The tunnel, serving trains, opened in 1997, while the bridge, serving vechicles, opened in 1998.
@@olesrensen7819 ah, yes that makes sense! I meant to say that I travelled in 1994, bad wording on my part.
I liked the indirect lighting over the isle . Thanks for posting.
It's calming isn't it? Thanks!
The design concept is called Flexliner originally developed in Denmark for the IC3 and ER4 type trains It was exported to Israel and build under license in Spain.
A flexliner layout was also chosen for the Øresundstog.
As a commuter who lived in Malmö and worked in København, I travelled on this route almost on a daily basis. The funny bit was there is a loose border control at Hyllie station when you travel Sweden bound of this Öresund train. I was lucky to let go at one night because I didn’t carry other form of ID. I forgot to bring my UK passport with me.
Probably around 2015? Sweden had about 500 000 immigrants that year so eventually they closed the borders, since people freely traveled across europe up here.
*illegal border control. violate schengen right of passage.
@@KungKokkos Still exists, out-of-touch rural Swedes falling for the propaganda. Now the trains just wait at Hyllie for 15 mins for no reason.
Being a regular commuter a few years ago, it pisses me off that part of the train is exclusively 1st class, that NEVER had any passengers in it, when the rest of the train was pretty much full
If it pissed you off, why don't you go murder the train operators?
Why get pissed over the 1st class being empty, I thought people hate sitting next to strangers?
Same, especially from cph central station to lufthavn, so many people pile on top of each other with huge baggage just behind the door but can't use any of those seats ugh
For some people, like elderly, it would be completely impossible to ride a crowded train.
The 1st class option allows them to travel by train without the risk of encountering an impossible situation.
The 1st class ticket is available to you too, if you want to avoid the crowd.
@@vonnikon
_I shouldn't be forced into paying 2.8 times the normal price for NOT being in a crowded situation, caused entirely by some asshole with endless greed_
Also, I was studying back then, so money were already quite tight, where should I get the money to upgrade?
@@MrHack4never it is not 2.8x more. 1st class is just 30-40% more.
Just consider 1st class the normal ticket, and consider 2nd class a low cost option. What is wrong with train operators offering more than one ticket option?
Or go by X2000 instead. It has reserved seats.
Sure, it would be great if we all could ride with 1st class comfort at 2nd class price. But that is not possible, due to basic economics.
Thanks for the interesting video about this international connection.
Great video and very useful info. I will be taking this train on my visit to Scandinavia soon.
SNCB had some similar rubber fronted trains in Belgium and they continued to Luxembourg too.Those sun blinds are bad news as they block the view of the passenger behind or in front too , very undemocratic things.
Some info: these trains were build from 1990 in Denmark by ABB Scandia, which was bought by Adtranz, then Bombardier and now Alstom.
The Flexliner (which is the product name) were originally build as diesel multiple-units but electric versions were introduced shortly after.
The Flexliner was available in two-, three- and four-carriage variants.
The Danish DSB operates IC3's (three-carriage diesel Flexliner) on Hamburg to Copenhagen, they used the ferry between Puttgarden and Rødby till late 2019, till construction work started on the Fehmarn-Rødby tunnel.
One rather specific fact is, that the diesel variants use a mechanical transmission, which is pretty rare for a "modern" intercity train (atleast no other comes to my mind).
This is not entirely true, this is not identical to the IC3, but it has borrowed design elements from IC3, and they are regarded same “family” (Flexliner). But this train was designed specifically for this network, as it should be able to handle the different voltages/frequencies in Denmark and Sweden.
@@MikCph I didn't mean identical but they are similar. I changed the comment now, so it's clearer ;)
The first 65 are built in Kalmar Sweden and was the last trains built in Sweden. The last built were built in Salzgitter Germany. Is not a IC 3 but can be driven together with those trains and has a lower comfort. You should try IC3 that’s real comfort..
@@fredricc5771 Öresundståg are never running coupled with IC3 and probably can't. Only the IR4 trains are often coupled with IC3.
@@mikkolukas You are right about the Öresundståg, but wrong about the IR4. It is actually a Flexliner. Like the IC3 it was built by Scandia in Randers, and the design is almost the same.
I have used this train many times. most times Copenhagen, Kastrup, Malmö and Alvesta. Always on time.
I have been on this line from Copenhagen to Malmö, back in 2001. Back than that city tunnel in Malmö did not yet exist. The Danish-Swedish border is in the middle of the Oresund Bridge. This train is of Danish origin. That bag has the DSB, the Danish national railway logo on it. In 2001 I had a similar, but diesel version as EC (Euro City) from Hamburg to Copenhagen. That train drove on the ferry at Puttgarden, to cross the Femer Belt to Rodby(havn) in Denmark. That is history, they are now building a tunnel at Rodby under the Belt to Puttgarden. For rail and road! To be opened in 2029.
This vídeo was awesome! Seing a train that can travel to another City in 36 minutes is very impressive.
well, the to cities are basically neighbours. :oD
eh, many trains run between cities in much shorter time than that?
In eastern Jutland, there are 15 minutes between each city by train.
Travelled Copenhagen to Gothenburg in June in these trains - return trip - also interailing. 4 hours each way. Seats were getting a litle tiring approaching the 4 hour mark, but substantially better than the UK equivalent. What surprised me was that there were no food and drink services available on the well loaded journeys I travelled on. Subsequent journey Copenhagen to Hamburg was sardine tin busy on a 4 car train.
I noticed at Copenhagen a driver opening the cab inside the large rubber area, stepping around and cleaning the cab window then closing the cab - weird but wonderful.
Yes the entire console and window can be folded to the side. When as a passenger you pass from one train set to another you often don't even notice.
There used to be a service cart with foods and drinks that you could buy, which entered the train in Helsingborg on it's way to Göteborg and some of them, operating the cart walked around the train and served at the seats, while others stayed put at one of the entrance doors. The service was run by Hallandstrafiken mostly for the part where the train was going through Halland, but was cancelled a couple of years ago due to a new director.
You can hear the announcement from one of the rides here at about 0.45 into the clip: ua-cam.com/video/FUILBDX1I8c/v-deo.html
Nice and comfortable indeed.
I like then we have in Denmark, the way they can be linked together and the black ‘muffin’ are blown up to make a perfect fit. The steering console are then opened to the side so it possible to walk through the train set.
I live in Nivå, where many of the Øresundståg terminates on the Danish side of the border (35 km/22 miles north of Copenhagen), so for many years I took this train to work every day.
Some of the trains have now been replaced by older Danish trains, and many people here would prefer the Øresundståg. The comfort is better ind the Swedish trains as shown on this video, even on 2'nd class.
The Danish IC3, though, looks in many ways very similar to the Øresundståg.
Derived from our beloved IR4/IC3
Too bad it cannot couple to these two sets
Just wanted to say, your did a good job with the pronunciations! Most brits don't seem to care so it was actually refreshing to see
A friend of mine was visiting relatives in Denmark and Norway and he used bus and ferry service between the two countries. The intercity buses were comfy and seemed to connect all the towns in both countries every 4 hours and the same goes with the comfy farry which he travelled on in overnight economy class. He's definitely going to be using these same services again. It's way, way better than anything anywhere in BC Canada or Alberta.
I live in a town that is served only by these trains so there's really no other option. They are quite decent for shorter trips and not too bad for longer ones either. Unfortunately, from time to time, they can be very crowded. There is a shortage of train sets so when three sets coupled together would be appropriate there might be just two, or in worst case, only one.
Although 3 sets coupled would be nice, it might be just too long for many of the platforms, 3 sets would be 9 carriages, almost 240 metres in length, upgrades would be needed to some stations, or only certain doors could open (which might not be possible with this train type).
@@epender Do you know which stations need to be upgraded?
@@testcardsandmore1231 I don't know, the English Wikipedia for the Øresundståg says that platform length is the problem but fails to elaborate which ones. It does however mention that some stations in Copenhagen only have one platform which also limits the frequency of service.
I'm sure the most important stations in Copenhagen and Malmö should be long enough to accommodate 3 trainsets so maybe it is a shortage of trains after all, in which case DSB should maybe stop running the Øresundståg shuttle between Copenhagen Airport and Helsingør since they could use any other train for that purpose, but I suppose the IC4 is the only other train they have with a low floor area suitable for luggage.
@@epender I've been told by a train driver that no triple train sets travel further north than Helsingborg on the west coast. Varberg is one of the stations with too short platforms. This station is however under heavy reconstrutcion at the moment so that might change in the future.
Ah yes there is a "shortage of train sets" but during justin bieber and ed sheeren all of sudden they had enough sets, SJ and DSB is a joke
I use this service quite often. There are quite nice trains with a good proportion of table bays exactly aligned with the windows, You can get a good sized case between the seat backs and an airline carry-on will fit safely in the overhead racks.
The down side is that the trains are showing their age. Air con and toilets can be out of order. DSB has the annoying practice of displaying a sign "can be reserved", which means you can sit in an empty seat and never know if you will be turfed out by someone who has reserved it. It should not be possible to reserve seats after the train has started its journey, and the display should indicate where the reservation applies.
Horrible flat weave seat covers instead of proper moquette.
Look on the map shown briefly in this video, it tells you exactly which seats can be reserved. Just avoid those seats and you'll be fine! :)
Looks like a lovely train trip
I first used that train about 20 years ago. I was staying in a hotel right opposite Malmö station, and as part of the hotel deal I got a free pass for as many trips on the Øresundståg as I wanted, so could nip back and forth to Copenhagen all day long. Pretty good deal, especially as the hotel wasn't expensive either!
Things had changed a lot when I returned to Malmö about seven years ago as the tunnel had been built by then. I stayed near Hyllie Station on that trip, so didn't get to see the new, cozy Malmö C Station refit...looks nice though!
The Belgian Class AM96 is often called "Danish Nose" because of similar design.
Im only 20 seconds in but congratulations! You managed to ponounce "Øresundståg" really well. most people just see the Ø and Å as Os and As, even though they are not. And thanks for making a video on a Scandinavian train! they dont get that much coverage and Denmark gets most of it, atleast my home country was included1 xD
Yes, it is quite impressive!
When I was at university (*many* years ago) here in the UK one of my friends was a Swedish guy and he would buy the Svenska Dagbladet, which my friends and I enjoyed looking at. However he also gave us some lessons in Swedish pronunciation so I can make a relatively good stab at most words... this sort of thing is always very useful for me cos I don't like to get these things wrong. Having said that most locals are pretty forgiving of hapless foreigners like me! 😉
PS Nice vid!
One of my favourite trains ever
Very professional video.
This train was originally built and developed in Denmark, due to the geography in DK. We had ferries crossing the Storebelt - and the design made it easy to load the ferries. They were and are still a big success. The factory in Denmark in now closed. The newer trains are now (as far as I know) built in Sweden.
According to Wikipedia (Swedish article X31) they are not built anymore. The last one was delivered back in 2012.
You forgot to really answer why it's so strange looking: You mentioned it for passage between units, but you can't see a door on the front... Does the driven cabin slide away or so?
Nice video overall! I'm glad that you are actually honest that their chairs might not cut it for 1st class on a 4 hour trip. I recently saw another channel say that Stadler FLIRT trains have great seating, which are actually much worse than this. For 30 years, ICE has shown how great chairs look like. Why can't train producers just copy what is working?
@Bert Stevens: The cab actually swings inward to make space for a passage between the cars. The Danish use this design for a an EMU and a DMU class as well. People call them "rubber noses"...
Yes, the driver's cab can be collapsed to the side.
@@bi0530 I've also heard the term "elephant butt" being used. :)
It actually does swing to the side (done manually by the cabin crew, once connected).
You can see a walk through the connected trains here: ua-cam.com/video/dkMjytScmyo/v-deo.htmlm53s
(From an IC3 set, which is *ALMOST* identical in this part)
Hahah, as someone who lives in Lund seeing someone taking this trip and describing everything in meticulous detail makes me smile :)
Haha glad you enjoyed it!
To me it’s BEAUTIFUL 🤩
You should see how they "fold" the train drivers minicabin at the fronts/ends when they connect two train units, so that You can walk between all connected units as if there was no driver cabin in between. This occasion maybe harder to find inside the country, like in Alvesta and other hubs when they dis- or reconnect some units. This is why this train looks so "flat-front". Many people commuting are using these trains daily. Nice video!
That's really cool!
@@SuperalbsTravels (Out of context I hereby post a comment to a comment on this page. Read, learn and act please) If you comment on this or have questions I will happily try to answer
Yes, but it are not just the distance but also the fact that you pass one of the largest infrastructure projects in the world. A bridge, an artificial island and a underwater tunnel, in great speed.
Earlier most would use hours to go via ferry´s or from airport to airport. Comparing the distance with a distance on land on existing old rails are a bit off IMO. Hours are saved and a lot of changing of transport means. The bridge and tunnel are financed by loans backed by the Swedish/Danish state and crossing fees are meant to pay down these long term loans. From opening traffic numbers have been on or above, primarily the latter, calculations. A bridge in and surrounded by saltwater have to be maintained. It have from the beginning been stated that it are built to stand for not under 100 years. Maintenance has therefore been a built in feature from the design/planning phase and some rather smart surveillance features and maintenance options are incorporated. Worth a study in itself.
Danes have for generations built forefront infrastructure projects in demanding places under harsh conditions and today that expertise are used all around the world as the world increasingly too see the benefits such projects can provide. There are a big difference between a cost and an investment. For the users it has meant both time and money saved. Before the project there were worries that the project would hamper local environment, not least underwater. The opposite has turned out to be the case. As with natural reefs, structures attract mussels and seaweed that again provide sanctuaries for the bottom of the aquatic food chain improving the rest of the food chain over time. A fact that also have been documented, are the case with the many off shore windmill parks, Danes have and are building. This project and the huge multi channel underwater tunnel to Germany currently being built are all part of Denmark´s plan to transition to a non fossil fuel society. Globally we all need to transition. It are not a matter of going back to the stoneage, on the contrary. It are a matter of integrating new tech and new knowledge to create a better more interconnected world while we transition. It´s about how we produce and use energy AND move forward.
Denmark have proven that you can decouple emissions from economic growth, something that political left, right and center around the world should take note of. Danes cracked that code and have done so by putting their money where their mouth are.
Denmark/Belgium/Netherlands/Germany a few months ago agreed and signed the North Sea Summit agreement that, in record speed, will transition 230 million (!) high energy using Europeans, or half the European population, from using electricity based on fossil fuels to electricity coming from off shore windmill parks in the North Sea. The worlds, by far, largest transitioning project. On top, inside same deal, the worlds largest hydrogen and similar green fuel production will take place. A smaller portion will ensure unhindered electricity production when the wind does not blow but a much larger portion will be used/sold for emission free transport and heating.
I cant help but mention Ireland here. They have looked at Denmark early on and just announced they will begin to export sustainable electricity, primarily from off shore windmill parks, to France via a undersea cable. Few would have imagined that Ireland would begin to have an income from exporting electricity to France, that have EU´s highest concentration of nuclear plants, 15 years ago. Ireland gains export and France saves money. Transitioning are a benefit. I am sure that it today warms both nations extra much that they do not have to send their money/currency to journalist and politician killing dictators such as POOtin and Bin Salman. If countries like USA/Canada/Australia made a simple copy/paste of the North Sea Summit agreement NOW, we all would benefit and we would have a real chance of saving ourselves from a climate run away, while laughing all the way to the bank on top. The three nations mentioned all have the fossil fuel sector as the most subsidised in their nations today, even surpassing the agricultural sector. I wonder if their taxpayers are aware of that!? ALL coastal nations should make a copy/paste now. Anything else are against the populations true interest. Wanna spend an exponentially higher and higher percentage of their state budgets on floods, draughts, climate refugees, hurricanes etc etc OR invest, create good well paying jobs locally for generations and end our disastrous CO2 emission levels? ANY politicians that do not act on this are either unintelligent or have other masters than the population that put them in office.
WE are out of time, only action and investments now counts.
Finally there is a video of the cab being folded up from the inside: ua-cam.com/video/3IGNCHMyGqY/v-deo.html
@@epender Thanks, that was exactly what I meant. But, this is the first time I would see it also from the inside and the whole process.
@@jangelbrich7056 It's the first time I've ever seen a video on it and it's quite interesting, I thought I should share it :) It's literally as simple as unlocking the cabs of the train and pulling it to the side.
VIA Rail Canada borrowed a similar one of these train sets from Sweden in the 90s. Would have been great if we had ordered a fleet of them. Saw one resting at Toronto Union Station but I believe this model had riveted sides.
That would've been the trusty IC3s, still the backbone of Denmark's railways 32 years later. I knew they were tested in the States, but didn't know about Canada.
Thank you for finnally releasing a video in Denmark! You planning to ride another train?
Öresundståget is a very comfortable and smooth train. I’ve taken this route to and from Kastrup International Airport in Copenhagen two hours north up to Båstad, Sweden (Axelsson the bridge) many times. I live in the United States, but Sweden is my native country. I’m very happy you gave this comfortable train a nice review. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇸🇪🇸🇪
I frequently take that train to båstad from Kastrup too haha
The X31K looks like the kind of train I expect to see built by an alien civilization on another planet as they take me to their overlord 😂it stands out, I'll give them that!
Good things to note:
Danish words are pronouced much softer than nordic words!
In Denmark the train is known as: Litra ET
You can get cheaper fares if you use a rejsekort which is valid from Malmø and from there towards Copenhagen!
DSB sells a Øresundspass which gives you discounts!
Skulle til og sige det samme
@@vitusna Lol
Skånetrafiken sells a 24 hours ticket, that is a better price than Rejsekortet, if you are going both ways in 24 hours.
BTW: The nordics words for squares, has nothing with square (the shape) in them. Means mostly just an open area in a city that is used as a markets (or has been used for such).
I wouldn't fault him. Danish is much harder than Swedish to speak. Rødgrød med fløde!
Danish is a nordic language
Back in 2001 I rode the Diesel variant of this Danish stock, from Hamburg to Copenhagen. That train went on the ferry between Puttgarden Germany and Rodbyhaven Danmark. This service is no longer. They are building a road and rail tunnel there now, to be opened in 2028. I also took a train from Copenhagen to Malmö, but I can not remember what stock it was. I do remember that the Malmö city tunnel did not yet exist, as you also mention it was opened in 2010.
As far as I know the Øresundståg is the only passenger train type to ever run the service over the bridge
As a trainspotter myself i would say that a triple Öresundståg is quite rare! So you we're very lucky that they either coupled in Helsingborg C or didnt couple off at Helsingborg C.
10:10 Fun fact: there is another type of the X31K that is almost identical. It's called X32K and was first a regional train that SJ operated between Karlskrona/Kalmar and Gothenburg. Eventually those trains where converted to being used at the Øresundståg lines.
However, those trains actually features three toilets. The third toilet is located at the Silent Zone.
Important question: Were the silent zone toilets noise insulated, or did you just have to do your business really quietly?
@@epender No, that toilet are located at the entry/exit doors, near the silent zone. Not directly in the silent zone.
@@carlmarlid Oh, that makes sense, I was only joking anyway. 😅 I did wonder how they would work around the toilet flush noise.
The cost varies hugely depending on how you get the ticket, The staff in Denmark were extremely helpful, but using a phone app is even cheaper, unfortunately if you plan on traveling a lot in various Swedish counties you do need different apps. But the savings are worth it. Also traveling as a couple ALWAYS get a Duo ticket, the cost of the 2nd person is significantly lower. Period tickets are good value too.
Yes because the SJ app is a scam
@@noxtrin1878 Yes always use the local, öresundståg for example
@@noxtrin1878 Why would you use an SJ app for these trains?
@@rickardkarlsson2245 before i realised the price difference
I am in Sweden now and I can't have swish because I'm a foreigner and I also don't have a visa card. The only option I have is paying at the store which is always more expensive than in apps. It would be nicer if Sweden would be a bit more foreigner friendly here.
Fun fact… those trains are capable of running under battery power in case of emergency power loss mode and shunting when there is no catenary.
Speaking of SJ X2000 … I ❤️ riding in First Class between Stockholm and Gothenburg 🇸🇪. I made the mistake of trying the Flix train between the two cities only once. Guess I like being spoiled. I hope you get the opportunity to experience it. 😉👍🏻
It really sounds like you're pronouncing the Danish words with a strong Swedish accent.
'Hovedbanegård' is pronounced with a hard 'g' like in English, not the 'hr' throaty sound that is sometimes used in Swedish. The 'd' is soft, meaning that it gets pronounced like the 'th' in English 'that'. I won't even try to explain the vowels, because Danish has 29 vowel sounds whereas English only has 13, so I can't find a good match for most of them.
Also, you should really have tried walking through one of the connections between units! It's the coolest feature of those trains.
The G in Swedish is pronounced hard G or like J (Y in English).
Are you thinking about the G in generell and such words? Those are pronounced that way as they are words from French usually.
Gård has a hard G in Swedish also.
It would have hard due to the length of the fixed link and the fact that part of it is a tunnel, but I still would have loved if they had made a bicycle and pedestrian lane for the crossing as well. Cycling across that must be amazing.
At first they wanted too but I would be dangerous becuase of winds
If the similar Storebælt bridge was a concern to Tour De France riders (some of the best in the world), then I'm sure the Øresundbridge would be too windy for normal riders on the best of days.
In the summertime these trains to / from Gotheburg are fully cramped with people. The stops at Båstad, Halmstad with the famous Tylösand beach , Falkenberg and Varberg are very popular summer resorts and a lot och german and dutch take their bicycles with them. It´s FREE if you carry a ordinary ticket for yourself.
i travelled on this train last week and i loved it
Awesome!
Definitely a good train trip. Hope it runs in off-peak as well as rush hour.🙂
It does
Runs multiple times an hour until midnight and 1am
I think city train lines which stop running at off-peak times are something you'll only find in car centric countries like Canada and the US.
Between midnight and 5 o'clock, there is only an hourly service Copenhagen-Malmö-Lund. People from further north are expected to sleep-over.
Yes it runs every 20 minutes most of the day. Hopefully they'll go back to 10 minutes intervals soon. From 1 to 5 am it is once an hour.
This train is also the best way to get from the airport to Copenhagen city center. Much more space available compared to the metro.
Agree
I went on this at the start on 2020.. just before covid lol. I went from Copenhagen all the way to Gothenburg and it was perfectly fine.
Forever better than a plane ever would be, decent scenery on that trip too as it goes along the coast for a portion of it.
Agreed, a nice ride. :)
Excellent commuter service!
I agree!
It made me chuckle that, as an Englishman, you described the 20eu fee for a 40km journey as 'expensive'. Been a while since you took the train in England?
I'm a fares expert with a discount card. 🤫
@@SuperalbsTravels My comment was more intended as a backhanded dig at UK rail fares. Love your channel btw
I did use this connection to visit Malmö from Copenhagen and have a few remarks… First of all: You are in Denmark as soon as the train reaches the middle of the bridge! All the rest is built in Danish waters! Is this train still running every 20 minutes? Into Sweden the train stops 20 minutes to do passport checks (back in 2017 at least) at the first Swedish station and Copenhagen airport is the first Danish station….
Ahh yes the Syrian refugee "crisis". No that passport check have fortunately been discontinued again.
Yes. There’s a mark on the wall of the tunnel when you cross the border. Yes. There are sporadic passport checks on the Swedish side.
@@markusolofzon There is no mark of the border on the tunnel. The border at the middle of the bridge and is clearly marked with paint in the flag colors on the girders of the bridge, as you can see here: ua-cam.com/video/LE_BlE4DxcA/v-deo.htmlm22s
You are wrong about the border - check for yourself. Both sets of towers are in Sweden.
@@markusolofzon Wrong. The border is about 500 metres West of the western towers.
I was on these! they are super comfortable!!
Good job nice information
Thanks!
My wife and I used these trains a few years ago, firstly to visit Malmo from Copenhagen, and then to reach the airport for our flight home.
On that airport trip, the train was absolutely packed and we were lucky to get off as there are hardly any doors on the trains. Probably the worst designed coaches that I have ever encountered for airport service.
They are not designed as airport trains as such, which is a bit of a problem on the copenhagen-malmo part of the journey.
One of the future plans is to take the night train from Stockholm to Kiruna i think it is. Got to be in the wintertime of course.
If you do, continue on to Narvik in Norway. The views are fantastic!
@@svennoren9047
It must be Narvik then. I will bring my Filippine girlfriend, who’ve never seen snow.
@@kasperkjrsgaard1447 Another bit of advice then: do _not_ go in midwinter. Kiruna is well above the arctic circle, and the sun does not even rise from early december to early january. It is so dark the streetlights stay on around the clock. (You might catch some lovely aurora, though). Instead go in late march. The snow will be there still, and you get bright cheerful sunlight over sparkling snowfields (and possibly aurora during the night).
Snälltåget is just our friendly (pun intended as snäll means friendly/nice) name for the "Schnellzug" in Sweden.
You even used the local accent when you said centralstation, I'm impressed
Thank you!! :)
These trains are a good compromise for long and short distance journeys with very good 2nd class seating and the centre cars being well-suited for those times when I've been loaded with luggage having arrived at Kastrup for onward travel to Malmö. Like others I have used them for both long and short journeys and found them generally good, and often well loaded. Very good review and despite the cost, I recommend serious train travellers to use the Øresund link at least once.
I find these an odd kind of hybrid between EuroCity and S-Bahn .... trying to serve both for international travellers and commuters.
And the difference to first class doesn't seem worth the surcharge.
Many of the iternational travellers on the Oresundstag ARE commuters. There is not much sense/feeling of "internationality" traveling between the Copenhagen metro area and the county of Scania. Distance from Copenhagen to Malmö is shorter than from Malmö to three of thr four largest cities in Scania.
Many of us dont think much about the border at all. Both Denmark and Sweden are in the EU, the Common Market, the Customs Union and the Schengen Area. A lot of Scanians understand Danish and som Danes even understand Scanian Swedish ;-) . After all, it's Swedish with a bit of Danish mix-in and "gutteralization".
Historically, Scania was a part od Denmark until the mid 17th century. One of the most successful ethnic cleansing campains in history made us Swedish, but some of the stains never washed out.. :-) Eg the Scanian flag is a kind of mix of the Swedish and Danish flags. Also, think about this: It's less than 50 km from Malmö to Copenhagen, its more than 500 km from Malmö to Stockholm.
@@davebowman6497 The tariff doesn't seem too attractive though, or is there a cheaper monthly/yearly card?
@@uncinarynin there is a monthly card. also a monthly card for first class. it takes the top of the price.
The surcharge is 3 euros
The number of passengers in first class is usually very limited. *_This_* is what can make it worth paying the surcharge of 3 Euro/30 SEK per county.
You are right about it being an odd S-bahn hybride. It's a compromise, as so much else in the world. The Danes *_needed_* a local train between the airport, Copenhagen and Elsinore. Kalmar, Växjö, Karlskrona, Kalmar, Kristianstad, Helsingborg and Halmstad all preferred *_direct_* trains to the airport, if the alternative was to change trains in Malmö or Lund.
I have travelled on this train many times, I did this journey from Denmark to Sweden when the train went via Helsingnor to Helsingborg via boat. prior to the opening of the bridge.
I did that too, but in the opposite direction from Stockholm to Copenhagen in the mid-1960s. As a 9 year old I though it was seriously cool.
Fantastic video
Thanks so much!
I've always wondered what the Flexliner is like -- its hard to imagine there is an entire rubber-faced full-width diaphragm on the front of every car -- despite the photos I had seen, but I guess there is.
Every train set. I think there are 3 cars per set.
@@pjacobsen1000 or 4 cars for the ER4 electric trains. which on a regular basis are mixed with IC3 diesel trains. quite unique.
@@mikkolukas - You get my point. That big rubber diaphragm. Almost nothing in the USA is that wide, other than permanently-coupled rolling stock like Talgo trains in the Pacific Northwest.
@@mikkolukas This is also wrong. The Contessas are ONLY the Litra ET/X31K. Contessas are formed by taking a Regina trainbody and electronics, and adding a Flexliner front to it.
IC3 (Litra MF), IR4 (Litra ER) and IC2 are all "pure flexliners." In fact, the IC3 and IR4 trains often run coupled to each other, despite IC3 being a diesel unit and IR4 being electric units.
@@wasmic5z Thank you for the correction. I have deleted my comment and will go and fetch another cup of coffee :)
One interesting thing about the power outlets, the ones above the windows are the original ones, of a type only used in Denmark and (I think) Thailand, though they're compatible with other European plugs without a ground pin. The ones between the seats are Schuko type which is the standard used in Sweden and were installed as part of the refurbishment.
The Thai have 220v using the US/JP 2 prong plug.
@@norlockv Thanks, I wasn't sure about that, just remember seeing it somewhere but that was apparently wrong.
@@enemixius hotels will have outlets for the European standard plugs in a combination socket
Your channel is such an amazing discovery, I never thought I would be watching train reviews!
Long distance journeys are quite comfy even in the non-refurbished versions. One can enjoy the ride from Copenhagen to Göteborg which is about 4 hours with good legroom and available toilets with amenities. About the discounts, if you use a Danish Rejsekort, Øresundsbillet or Øresundskort it will be way more cheaper than just buying from a SJ ticket machine. And with one of the last two you can travel in the whole Skåne Region pretty cheap.
Sadly enough, the discount ticket cards were discontinued several years ago. These days the use of a mobile application is what has taken over. The only discounts to my knowledge that are left are for families (20% off if you buy two adults together, a few kids can then travel as well) and for Swedish or Danish students (with the appropriate student id and then only for period tickets).
I have heard a lot of english speaking people trying to say "København", but no one has hit as spot on as you have. Well done!
I have made a 2-part marathon video, about the Øresundståg, free to view on my channel. (i might make a new 2 part version, with better information and editing.)
(just puking here) The pronunciation was awful.
A major problem with these trains is that DSB insist on these trains running as a local service in Denmark, while the transit providers in southern Sweden want them to run express. The interior is a compromise.
The trains were really made for express service with a decent top speed. They really aren’t sprinters. Hopefully DSB will go back to running these trains regionally in Denmark.
They are a lot better than the X3000 trains,
@@physiocrat7143. The X3000s are according to me better in every way…
@@simondahl5437Cluttered interiors. Misaligned windows no luggage space between seat backs and atrocious ride quality like all the Regina trains. And they are no gangways between the units. What's good about them?
Well, from the end of this year they will barely be running in Denmark at all. They're being truncated to Østerport in Copenhagen, so they will only just go into Copenhagen and then turn around to go back to Sweden.
A few trainsets might get used for domestic regional services in Denmark, without going to Sweden at all. But other than that, they're not going to do much in Denmark except for going to the airport and Sweden.
Even now, they no longer run to Helsingør except a few times on the weekends.
@@wasmic5z. Thanks to DSB wanting a monopoly…
Rode this train 4 years ago from malmo to kph and back and i thought it was very comfy! I seem to recall paying around 250 krn/ 25 euro for the trip and it included free pass on all public transport in kph for that day wich was amezing for this value!
Triangel Sq lol very interesting vlog loved it
Thank you!