UK Unveils SIXTH-GENERATION FIGHTER Concept
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2018
- In a demonstration of the UK’s leading industrial combat air capabilities, Defence Secretary, Gavin Williamson revealed a next-generation fighter jet concept model.
The concept model showcases UK intent, world leading technical capability and industrial expertise, and will help the UK to deliver next generation combat air capability by 2035.
Video released by BAE Systems, Ministry of Defence
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For those who want a bit of context, this is intended to replace the Eurofighter Typhoon, not the the F-35. Thought details are unclear, what will most likely be the case is the F-35 will be a multi role fighter bomber as well as the compliment of the UK's Naval arm, whilst the Tempest will replace the Typhoon as the dedicated air to air fighter. Another thing to point out is the name which follows another RAF plane from WW2, the ledgendery CAS Typhoon, which was replaced by the Tempest.
The UK has created so many powerful and iconic aircraft. We've been out of the game for a while doing collaborative projects such as the Typhoon, Tornado and F-35 (15% of each airframe is being built in the UK), so it's good to see us once again making another entry into the annals of jet history.
And for those squealing that the UK 'can't afford this', grow a brain. Nations like South Korea, Turkey and Japan are building their own 5th and 6th generation fighters. Russia who is still making next gen aircraft has an economy smaller than SOUTH KOREA'S and that is about to be bypassed by MEXICO. Start having a bit more faith in your own country.
Wanderer628 Russia is failing at its 5th gen, it needed Indian money. Japan has given up on the X2. South Korea isn't even going for internally stowed weapons. Turkey has only just begun. Not very convincing a smaller nation can build alone.
We've seen what Russia can do with a similar defense budget, I think they could definitely build this, but a 2035 target date seems too easy.
World is changing, alliances are going to fail. That little island has lasted this long for a reason, know when shit is about to get fucked and prep for it.
@@davidhouseman4328 as far as i´ve read after funding from india stopped they stated that tey will invest in 6th gen fighters instead of 5th gen.
@@warandwar227 Given India pulled out because the SU57 wasn't good enough and they are behind in UCAVs it seems unlikely anything they are working on will justify 6th gen.
Any one else see shades of F23 black widow about our new stealth fighter can’t wait to see it fly Great Britain will be one of the worlds leading aerospace countries again
Yep they tend to get a good hold and quick advancement in the beginning but at the end it usually gets cornered by Americans or sometimes Russians but still very very cool and advanced fighter they have here
Glad about this, lets continue to develop and strengthen our armed forces into the future.
China s replacement for the J-20 is the 6th generation J-50 Trident that can fly at mach 6 speed.The J-20 with the WS-15 engines can super cruise without afterburner at mach 2.5 speed.The J-20 has terahertz radar that can see stealth airplanes.The longer body J-20 has two bay,one for four short range PL-12 (150 miles) and another for four longer range PL-21 (300 miles).The US F-22 has four AIM AAM that has a range of 100 miles at jess than mach 3 speed
The J-28 which flew at mach 6 speed for several hours and landed on September 9,2015 was shown on CCTV-13 and reported by two newspaper that was quickly censored..China has the graphene alloy material ,scram engines and graphene-carbided coating to build a J-50 that will be the replacement for the J-20B with canards.The second stage of the DF-17,the Starry Sky-2 and the Lingyun-1 are the maneuvering scram jet engine
The UK 6th generation Tempest is a concept.China s 6th generation stealth J-28 flew at mach 6 speed and landed on September 18,2015. Typed Wang Zhenguo and VLRAAM into your computer to find more information on China s 6th generation airplanes.The PL-21 VLRAAM that flew at mach 6 speed is based on the turbo-scram jet engine.
Corrine Tsang is that the jet that can take on 5 F-22s at the same time
Corrine!! This occured on Sept 18, 2005 ( almost 3 yrs ago )Why no videos showing the J-50 flying and landing??? I searched the web and didn't find one video showing the J-50 Flying, landing or taxening on a runway, only concept looking pictures.So the way it looks to this titearsedmurican,China's J-50 is a wishful thinking concept just like the UK's Tempest is a concept.
The Dark Sword that flies at mach 6 speed is based on the J-50 with two canards and two turbo-scram jet engines.The stealth airplane that flew on September 18,2015 was shown on CCTV-13 and reported by two newspaper that was quickly censor.Typed Wang Zhenguo into your computer and VLRAAM to find more information on China s 6th generation airplanesThe following are China s 6th generation missiles and drones DF-17,PL-21,Starry Sky-2,Lingyun-1,Dark Sword,Cloud Sword and Star Sword
The J-50 used two scram jet engine that was designed by Wang Zhenguo
The J=28 and the J-50 is a 6th generation fighter based on Wang Zhenguo scram jet engine in the PL-21 and Starry Sky-2.thay flies at mach 6 speed.China s 7th generation airplane is based on the Jia Geng No.1 missile that flies at mach 11 speed.
Build at least one. I’ll go and take a photo from other side of earth.
Typed Wang Zhenguo into your computer.Popular Science (US) and MSN (Canada) wrote an article on him winning the Reng Fu Award for his scram jet engine with pictures of how it works on October 9,2015 47 days after the J-28 flew
Look at the shape. That's what a 5th gen aircraft looks like. A 6th gen fighter doesn't has horizontal or vertical stabilizers at the back.
a) You are clearly just here to hate on Britain; just another Indian nationalist troll who hates the UK. There are Indian nationalists hating on Britain on all kinds of varied British military and history related videos, so unless you just hate reality and facts then go pester and spam somewhere else.
b) There is no universally agreed upon set of defining features and aspects to a gen 6 aircraft so a range of options are being tested and tried out.
You do not know what makes the full array of forms of what gen 6 can or cannot be so STOP pretending you do.
Gen 6 aircraft are being planned to enter service in the mid 2030's to 2040's.
Strong design plans are in place due to military powers obviously predicting they will need more time to develop technology. There are things on the way that we might not even have built yet. There are going to be step changes in the potential load outs and weapon systems on all future aircraft.
This UK Tempest 6th gen concept has a lot of backing behind it. It will be useless putting a Gen 5 into service in 2035-2040 because by then, all Gen 4 aircraft will be being retired (even the upgraded ones) in the UK e.g. the Eurofighter Typhoon will be retired in 2040. With the numerous tech upgrade refits they've had and newer built ones having better gear, they are sometimes informally regarded as ''Gen 4 .5'' in quality, because as dogfighters they can beat basically anything out there, at close to medium range. F-22A Raptors are widely considered the best fighters in the world due to their superior stealth and ability to avoid the dogfight at longer range. They are just about the only real threat to a top line fully upgraded Eurofighter - though F-35 variants also stand a good chance, and the Su-35. Very little competition - at least now.
But in 2040?
By 2040, the Gen 5 will be maturing rapidly having begun as a process since the turn of the millennium. That means now, the Gen 5 process is well over two decades old. Well over. Plans were being drawn up in the 90's. Gen 5 are coming to fruition now but they are still going to age fast. They will be used widely for over 50-60 years from now around the world, and don't get me wrong; very few powers can even afford them, and to even get them is a huge victory for some nations. As the decades go on, weaker and poorer nations might be able to get 2nd hand Gen 5 aircraft in the future. But as the value and cutting edge of gen 5 aircraft deteriorates. Gen 6 will have to step in to take the top spot. It is a complicated and expensive problem, finding the balance.
Tempest will be Britain's (hopefully) answer to that problem. For example, technology innovations might speed up immensely or, alternatively slow down due to the sheer difficulty of advancing to higher and higher levels. This stuff is getting like sci-fi tech now. Pretty out there.
However, Tempest's current design will of course lean closer to gen 5 design features. But just because it ''looks Gen 5'' doesn't mean it is. That is simply not how it works.
Also, perhaps some Gen 5 features are the apex design by chance, and that they are fairly carried on and continued into Gen 6 designs. If it ain't broke etc. You can't just shit out a sci-fi concept and call it a Gen 6. It has to be a natural evolution from the previous generation(s)
In 2018, most countries can't even get Gen 4 aircraft. Most middling powers are using legacy era aircraft, even stuff from 50 years ago. In 2040, most middling powers might be able to get their hands on Gen 4, and a few might have Gen 5. But the top powers? They will have Gen 6, definitely. Can't possibly not have them, they'd lose their strategic advantage, it is simple logic.
Britain is the 5th or 6th most powerful country in the world, economically and militarily. It will have Gen 6 in an up to date way, in time for 2040. 22 years from now, is a good amount of time. Most countries aren't even able to seriously plan for Gen 5 let alone Gen 6. Britain is. We are strong enough to do that and thankfully our historic and world-renowned aviation industry is actually capable of providing, especially if we can get funding and development deals and support from Sweden and/or Japan in some proposed ideas already being rumoured. Britain will struggle to make the Tempest on their own but they can do it.
c) In many ways, the Gen 5 development struggles for the past decades has probably got a lot of the hard work for Gen 6 out of the way. By which I mean, in the far future people will likely look back at Gen 5 and Gen 6 as quite similar in the evolutionary scale of military fighter aircraft, for various reasons. It is a balancing act which juggles time and money.
Trillions go into Gen 5 programmes e.g. F-35 and F-22...
They are rightly and widely called over the budgets first hoped for in the 90's and earlier, and are hugely controversial.
Gen 5 mistakes and overruns on costs running into the hundreds of billions of dollars over budget, have taught the developers and aviation industry countless lessons and hard earned, hard won lessons. That will speed up the Gen 6 process as a beneficial rebound effect. They were in uncharted territory making Gen 5's. Now we have a basis to leap forward again.
Gen 6 is coming.
Hello Mr,
I don't hate anyone. Yes I am Indian and I love my nation but that doesn't mean I hate other nations. Back to our topic of discussion. Has Britian ever buit a 5th gen aircraft? As far my knowledge Britian has contributed in the 4th gen aircraft called, "Eurofighter Typhoon". Now they are directly building a 6th generation aircraft without even having the technological knowhow of it's previous generation. ??? Although, I agree with you that there is no defination of 6thGenFA but I would like to state USA's aircrafts as the benchmark because they are the only one to do anything first and have the most technical prowess. They are the first and only nation to have a 5thGenFA fully working. Not only USA had the structure but also the engine ready. And it is a big deal! Engine is the most complex thing! Russian and Chinese 5thGenFA are not stealthy enough and most importantly their engine is of 4thGenFA. The VCE engine said to have in the Tempest is made into reality only by the American companies. As they have successfully designed a 5thGenFA, USA is the only nation that can pave way for 6thGenFA: USA's Boeing F/A-XX. The most important aspect of a 6thGenFA is it's stealthyness. By removing the horizontal and vertical stablizers you reduce the em backscatter reducing it's radar cross section similar in the case of a stealth bomber. The AI can be developed later and make it work on autopilot like in an UAV (India will be doing that for our Tejas. Not big task imo). Now, the question remains about direct energy weapons which is also a feature of the 6th gen. UK's Dragonfire is a Land to Air DEW. If successful, it would come in service in mid 2020's states an article. However it would be interesting to see how fast Brits will be able, if it is possible to make the Land to Land variant first, to make an Air to Air variant before 2035.
There probably won't BE and 6th gen fighters. USA (and India, iirc) are already working on drone fighter capability. Why train pilots when computers can handle more G's, make faster decisions, are constantly aware of ALL the information being presented to them and making and adjusting calculations at speeds far faster than humans are capable of and they never need to sleep or eat, need zero training time, and can outfly a human 10/10 times?
The future of air warfare, if it even continues to be a thing, will be a few pilots in maxed out stealth craft (not fighters as they don't need to fight) dictating tactics to 4-5 drone wingbots from a safe distance and escorted by even more drones.
carnades
It's a 5th Gen aircraft....not a 6th.....but it looks very promising. As with the Eurofighter Typhoon (which was once known as the Agile Combat Aircraft and once had twin tail fins), this design will change over time....
If it ends up having the features they're planning on then it'll most likely be classed as a 6th gen fighter. Directed energy weapons and the ability to switch between manned and unmanned modes seem to be some of the main features a lot of 6th gen fighters are targeting.
It will be 6th gen get over it
Look at the shape. That's what a 5th gen aircraft looks like. A 6th gen fighter neither has horizontal nor vertical stabilizers at their back.
a) You are clearly just here to hate on Britain; just another Indian nationalist troll who hates the UK. There are Indian nationalists hating on Britain on all kinds of varied British military and history related videos, so unless you just hate reality and facts then go pester and spam somewhere else.
b) There is *no universally agreed upon set of defining features and aspects to a gen 6 aircraft* so a range of options are being tested and tried out.
You *do not know what makes the full array of forms of what gen 6 can or cannot be* so STOP pretending you do.
Gen 6 aircraft are being planned to enter service in the mid 2030's to 2040's.
Strong design plans are in place due to military powers obviously predicting they will need more time to develop technology. There are things on the way that we might not even have built yet. There are going to be step changes in the potential load outs and weapon systems on all future aircraft.
This UK Tempest 6th gen concept has a lot of backing behind it. It will be useless putting a Gen 5 into service in 2035-2040 because by then, all Gen 4 aircraft will be being retired (even the upgraded ones) in the UK e.g. the Eurofighter Typhoon will be retired in 2040. With the numerous tech upgrade refits they've had and newer built ones having better gear, they are sometimes informally regarded as ''Gen 4 .5'' in quality, because as dogfighters they can beat basically anything out there, at close to medium range. F-22A Raptors are widely considered the best fighters in the world due to their superior stealth and ability to avoid the dogfight at longer range. They are just about the only real threat to a top line fully upgraded Eurofighter - though F-35 variants also stand a good chance, and the Su-35. Very little competition - at least now.
But in 2040?
By 2040, the Gen 5 will be maturing rapidly having begun as a process since the turn of the millennium. That means now, the Gen 5 process is well over two decades old. Well over. Plans were being drawn up in the 90's. Gen 5 are coming to fruition now but they are still going to age fast. They will be used widely for over 50-60 years from now around the world, and don't get me wrong; very few powers can even afford them, and to even get them is a huge victory for some nations. As the decades go on, weaker and poorer nations might be able to get 2nd hand Gen 5 aircraft in the future. But as the value and cutting edge of gen 5 aircraft deteriorates. Gen 6 will have to step in to take the top spot. It is a complicated and expensive problem, finding the balance.
Tempest will be Britain's (hopefully) answer to that problem. For example, technology innovations might speed up immensely or, alternatively slow down due to the sheer difficulty of advancing to higher and higher levels. This stuff is getting like sci-fi tech now. Pretty out there.
However, Tempest's current design will of course lean closer to gen 5 design features. But just because it ''looks Gen 5'' doesn't mean it is. That is simply not how it works.
Also, perhaps some Gen 5 features are the apex design by chance, and that they are fairly carried on and continued into Gen 6 designs. If it ain't broke etc. You can't just shit out a sci-fi concept and call it a Gen 6. It has to be a natural evolution from the previous generation(s)
In 2018, most countries can't even get Gen 4 aircraft. Most middling powers are using legacy era aircraft, even stuff from 50 years ago. In 2040, most middling powers might be able to get their hands on Gen 4, and a few might have Gen 5. But the top powers? They will have Gen 6, definitely. Can't possibly not have them, they'd lose their strategic advantage, it is simple logic.
Britain is the 5th or 6th most powerful country in the world, economically and militarily. It will have Gen 6 in an up to date way, in time for 2040. 22 years from now, is a good amount of time. Most countries aren't even able to seriously plan for Gen 5 let alone Gen 6. Britain is. We are strong enough to do that and thankfully our historic and world-renowned aviation industry is actually capable of providing, especially if we can get funding and development deals and support from Sweden and/or Japan in some proposed ideas already being rumoured. Britain will struggle to make the Tempest on their own but they can do it.
c) In many ways, the Gen 5 development struggles for the past decades has probably got a lot of the hard work for Gen 6 out of the way. By which I mean, in the far future people will likely look back at Gen 5 and Gen 6 as quite similar in the evolutionary scale of military fighter aircraft, for various reasons. It is a balancing act which juggles time and money.
Trillions go into Gen 5 programmes e.g. F-35 and F-22...
They are rightly and widely called over the budgets first hoped for in the 90's and earlier, and are hugely controversial.
Gen 5 mistakes and overruns on costs running into the hundreds of billions of dollars over budget, have taught the developers and aviation industry countless lessons and hard earned, hard won lessons. That will speed up the Gen 6 process as a beneficial rebound effect. They were in uncharted territory making Gen 5's. Now we have a basis to leap forward again.
Gen 6 is coming.
Weren't we due to build a jet with the Japanese?
Peter Peterson we were looking at it. I think the idea is to get something going so we are controlling the direction and other countries can see what they are buying into.
I think theyre just gonna by the yf-23. Which is a smart idea. Go rising sun.
Kyle Simon they're looking at it but there's still a lot of development that would be needed, all the electronics would be updated. If it's only for the limited number Japan would want it's going to be very expensive.
Article 9 of Japan's constitution prohibits Japan from doing a lot of stuff militarily but one of the things prohibited by Article 9 is Japan's ability to export military equipment to foriegn countries.
This is why Japan couldn't participate in the development phase of the F-35 program and just had to buy the F-35 as is. Japan's constitution prohibited Japanese companies from sharing their military technology, designs and expertise (as that would violate Article 9's prohibition of weapons exports), hence Japanese companies were not allowed to participate in the project.
Trekkie down under article 9 gets reinterpreted all the time. Exports restrictions were loosened in 2014.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26830504
F22 Sista here. This won't surely replaced the F35 scenario. US it's on it's 7 Gen Aircraft already in works. The 6th G supposed to come out last year but then.. they re-designed it after it came out due to similarity of the F35 and F22 plus it's weapons bay being small to carry loads of weapons. lol But good enough. Too bad though.. it's going to take sometime to see this shit.
'Sixth generation' lmao
Fools Gold Found who knows what will define 6th gen. It could be directed energy weapons or optionally unmanned both of which are possibilities for this aircraft.
A new generation fighter isn't defined by its features. A new generation is simply just that, a new type of aircraft (air frame and engines) to better the one it replaces and/or challenges, regardless of secondary tech features it may have.
ƒяεεÞФϻ ƒîgнтεя a new generation is a step change in ability. That's why we have 4.5 or 4+ planes running around. They were new airframes and engines, better than before. But they were just an improvement on the same idea so didn't warrant a new generation.
David Houseman A new generation aircraft is built when the current avionics, airframe and engines are no longer capable of incorporating new, up to date systems. So a new generation of aircraft (new advanced engines, airframe and avionics) are built to accommodate these new systems. Although these new features/systems help give the new gen an advantage over the new, old or obsolete, they aren't what define it as a next gen aircraft, despite the fact that the new gen aircraft was designed and built to implement these new technologies. It's a new generation of aircraft for new technologies.
Plenty of cash for playing War Games and build pointless weapons no money for elderly and NHS
Umm..we have no money in the UK. This will never get built.
Max Steele Plenty of money just most of it gets wasted.
We have money but we need to use it more wisely
If countries like South Korea and Turkey can afford it so can we. Grow up.
What? What planet are you living on? I think our spending priorities alone in the UK on more important matters, dictate this project will be stuck in development hell for decades. Your obviously a fanboy judging by your other comments. I think it is you which needs to grow up mate! Cya...
Yep, very true...but money would be better spent on what forces we have now..the Army alone needs better kit...Were still using varients of the FV432's..and they are 50+years old.