Throw the Clubhead OUT vs. Pulling the arms DOWN
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- Опубліковано 17 січ 2021
- In this video, Steve demonstrates the difference between pulling the handle of the driver with the arms into the ball, versus the Austin out throw of the clubhead from the top.
The result will be increased clubhead speed, better impact, and a higher angle of attack!
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This is beautiful hand and wrist movement
This is the only thought I warm up with before a round now. Throwing. It's kind of liberating, simple and gets rid of other thoughts. I'm not claiming anything more than the fact that it certainly works for me, and I'm not claiming that it has changed my game; it has simplified it while scores improve during tournament pressure. BTW, this is just a beautiful day here in Ventura County; I think this practice range that Steve is using is in Moorpark, CA. Thanks for the great lesson Mr. Pratt.
Great tip! Can't wait to try it. Thanks!
thank you coach pratt. THE BEST !! definitely seeing myself longggg and str8, any time any course. will pay u a visit soon..
Tried this on the range today and after playing golf for years my whole perception of swinging the club has changed. It seems to help with getting rid of that over the top move too, great tip.
Fascinating! Nicklaus talked about how you cannot release the club too early. Seems consistent with what you are advocating.
Nicklaus said, "if you move to the left side properly" then you can't release the club to early.
I remember that nicklaus statement from his "golf my way" video. However, it is very important to remember that he finished that statement with "as long as you get over to your left side" (for a RH golfer). So if you shift your weight to your left side during the downswing, you can release the club as early as you want in the downswing.
Thank you, thank you! I started doing this style earlier this year after researching golf swing physics and momentum. My ball striking and consistency have gone way up. I've been struggling to explain it to people....they think you are nuts but it really works! Your explanation ties out to my notes of not pulling down with the arms....the body "throws" relaxed arms back behind the ball.
Fantastic. I think a little different by telling myself to "Feel" the club head. I think it's the same as throwing the club at the ball. I'll change my way of thinking to your way for a chage, Keep up your great work. You are my favorite golf source on UA-cam. Thanks, Brad
Excellent video, thank you!
Great explanation. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you...great tip!
Fantastic video so many good thoughts!
love this tip. simple and easy to understand!
Very helpful. Thanks!
Fantastic. What an eye-opener! I've been trying the pulldown forever with not much in the way of results. Finally an epiphany! Thanks!!!
Cheers Joseph!
This video is spot on.
I think Steve does a great job of describing the outhrow here. Hopefully people don’t get confused with it being a cast or throwing away lag. Lag should not be a conscious thought! Great job Steve!
Video was very helpful
Great information. I've been working on shallowing and swinging from the inside and what I've learned is that you MUST turn your body whether you pull or throw. If you do the pull method slowly, the face will square and it's laser straight! If you don't time it write you will slice or shank. What you need to figure out is which is best for YOU. The less flexible may be better at throwing. Notice Steve said he is practicing throwing at the end of the video. it all takes practice!!
It certainly goes against what I’ve been taught before. Thank you!
Wow, that's a great video instruction
Awesome explanation Steve...thanks again. BTW, used this with my driver 10 days ago and was getting Summer yardage in 45* soft conditions. 👍
Very interesting, I will try this
Emphasis also needs to be placed on the turning of the body, as this creates centrifugal force along the shaft as the handle moves around the body rather than towards the ball. This, along with the throw, accelerates the ball even more along the shaft, giving greater clubhead speed.
Excellent!
Thank so much Steve. Amazing instruction. New to golf and now, after hours on the range from your videos, I hit the driver, at 51, 250 -270 when I hit it right. The consistency is getting better and my club head speed in increasing (longer drives).
My drives are noticed by the guys in the mens league. A reward in itself from the work I put in.
To lower scores!
Good job. I wish YT was around when I started playing.
Does this method apply to irons and fairway woods? Thanks!
Fantastic drill and feel. Thanks for suggesting holding at the elbox to get the feeling thus saving me from buying yet another golf tool I don't use
Pure gold
You're obviously right. And well put too as usual. Thank You for doing this, would like You to know that Your teachings have helped my golf a great deal!
so glad i seen this, confirms what i feel . too me it feels like my body pulls my arms and the harder i rotate the faster my body pulls my armsif ijust let my arms relax , great video and explanation
This works real well, must turn with swing
Great man
Throwing/releasing/downhinging (whatever it wants to be called 🤣) is something I wasn’t doing which was causing me not hit the ball effectively. Ever since I came across this motion, I’ve been doing it and have been able to hit balls down range consistently. I feel it and effectively do it with the driver, but I’m still getting used to doing it with irons.
Watched a ton of videos on this and yours is definitely one of the most visually and physically educational. Thanks for this!
Cheers Arnold!
OMG ... THIS REALLY WORKS!!! My driver has been worthless for the last year... this throw out action has got everything working sync!! All I can say is IT REALLY WORKS!!! And it feels so much easier!!!
good stuff
great video thanks. Can't wait to take it to the course. I'm curious, do you use the same feel on greenside bunker shots?
Thanks to this video I now know how my hands contribute to my swing. I used to use the pull down feel which could easily tip the club and disrupt my swing if I was trying to hit a harder or softer shot. With this out throw feel, I can add power and keep everything on plane.
One thing I think should be called out is that proper lower body rotation and sequencing should already be in place to appreciate this move.
True.
I've never asked, but I am curious...what kind of driver is that??
Awesome content and always enjoy watching. It's made a huge difference for me and what I am working on.
Hey Steve what’s your thoughts on using you legs in the golf swing?
Agree Peter Croker the Australian teaches this what he calls A to B
Today at range: lefty facing me, about 55 years old, barrel chested, stiff and locked-in address, arms locked and extended with death grip on club. Hitting driver about 150. He admired one of my drives. (I am 74). I explained the out-throw versus his handle-pulling or stiff yank. Didn’t expect he could do anything with it-as I was explaining I was asking myself why I was doing it--but he surprised me and got it right away, as in from the first! Immediately gained 40-60 yards and half the shots were draws. The guy lit up. I could have charged him for the lesson. BTW: I use Hogan’s explanation for the feel of the out-throw: “I feel like I’m taking an arrow out of a quiver.” In other words, the first move of the hands is not down but backward along the target line and even slightly up, the way you would pull an arrow if you had a quiver strapped across your back. Just one inch will get the club catapulting. I also referred him to your videos on out-throw.
Yes arrow from a quiver is the same phrase Davis Love's dad used....and very accurate in describing the actual forces being applied to the grip.
Does throwing the club applies to iron shot also?
I had some doubts first time I saw this video. It goes against a lot of what other UA-cam golf pros are saying BUT I have to say this REALLY works. I’ve had problems with my driver for a long time but when trying this drill I was hitting balls like a tour pro. It was amazing.
Feels like a cast, but in camera it looked great, crazy stuff
Hi can't argue what the the camera shows, Jack Nicklaus said, he released the club straight away on the down swing. Don't think he worried about lag, it's happened naturally. THANKS 👍
Actually we can argue with what the camera shows. Just like watching a duck glide across the water, you're not getting the full picture on how hard the duck is working under the water.
This reinforces the importance of the turn. Having a good turn and not being rigid with your arms the club will release naturally.
Love it
Looks loke a fairly typical pro swing to me--early weight shift toward target while still finishing backswing.
Does this method apply to irons and fairway woods? Any adjustments needed? Thanks!
Are you adding right hand power for the throw??? Witch hand drive the power or is it both at the same time.
I would pull the arms and slice it everytime, but started throwing the clubhead and have hit the longest and straightest drives of my short golf life. Thanks Steve!
can irons or fairway woods from the deck be hit like this?
This fixed my over the top
I think the trick with this or in general in the golf swing is stop the shoulders for a split second in the down swing wile throwing the club, works for me anyway
will try that
I cant agree wth u more. Tried many movemnts. Stopping split second in downswing while throwing is the best by far. With one caveat, the right hand if youre right hander, has to be very relaxed when throwing. The sequence i used is shift lower body lateral to the left, back shoulder facing the target. After this done (this is where split second waiting is over) then throw club away from target and when the club is abt parellel to ground rotate upper body and start straighting the left foot. Tts the feeling i hv. Ball will fly baby draw and far. It works very well evrytime...when rythm n timing is done correctly
@@sallehandrews6976 Tried it and crushed it. Get this move down and it adds a lot of power.
Is your club getting thrown out directly to the right of you? Around 3 o’clock
Hello Steve!!! Great content as usual. How do you plan the throwing of the club if you want a lower ball flight And lower spin rate ? What changes?
Good question and a topic for a future video.
Can this work in the short game?
Should this work with irons too? Also im a bigger guy from years of powerlifting and can only get to a 3/4 backswing, should the same idea work or should i have the feel of throwing the club out to 1:30
hi Steve thanks a lot it really help me to drive longer. Is it work for all clubs on fairway or it must be changed anything?
Yes it does
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Hi i have a speed whoosh, i thought the idea was to have the ball hit the bottom at the point where a club would hit the ball but I believe you are saying it should be after this is that right? Great lesson too, thanks.
It's a matter of Feel vs. Real. If you practice feeling the the speed whoosh ball is at maximum speed after it passes the ball position you will in reality, when hitting the golf ball, be near maximum speed at the ball.
If you throw the club, can you shape the ball trajectory?
Hi Steve. Is there any prerequisite to have to use the Austin Pivot to gain the benefits of the throw motion you are presenting or is this throw relevant for any type of pivot? It is interesting that I have tried to incorporate your hip movement drills into my swing but I cant seem to make it work fluidly without also including the throw motion. Without a conscious throw the move into my left side seems to stall. The throw seems to force the left hip back or at least seems to match it all up as a smooth continuous motion. Interested in your thoughts if they are all linked together and one cant work without the other?
No you don't need to make the exact backswing pivot...but it helps to at least make a tilt/turn style like Snead to set up the downswing pivot.
Does this work for irons?
Wasn't it Jack Nicklaus who said you can't release the club too soon from the top?
Interesting but for me I think I like the ideal of iniating a pull then add the turn with the throw of hands thru impact. Thank you Steve. Will give it a try and see. I do agree that harpooning the ball down makes no sense.
Turn your lead hand toward the ground in your dowm swing and make sure your wrists are not cupped at the top of your swing.
VERY Great Teaching - thank you. One question; Is it like - only flattening the club with your wrist and without uncocking them and then turn theebody without using the arms at least no feeling og use of arms ?
There is no universal description for feel. What you feel is different than what I feel...which is the the arms get a free ride while a throw out.
@@Inmotion70 Yes that is a very good description. Thank U so much again. -think I got it now thanks to U.
the intro song is a banger
Do you still get an upward aoa with this kind of swing? Seems like this will promote a downward angle for the driver?
Check out the start of all my driver videos...I'm hitting anywhere from +3 to +6.
I am working towards a longer drive - might not be a bad idea to include straighter, too.
Email me at Steve@hititlonger.com and I will send you a free copy of my book on driving it straight. Thanks so much for watching!
"I've got a crap-ton of lag . . . ." :-)
It’s just all interpretation and perspective. Some people think of a pull and throw in different ways that may give different results for each individual person. Not saying this doesn’t work for people, but for me when I think of throwing the club out, I tend to cast outward with a weak heal hit. As opposed for me, thinking of pulling down actually helps me create the speed and then releasing the club into the ball. Then I just make sure my shoulders are properly aligned at impact for an in to out swing. But I do like how you make it apparent that you need to “throw”/release your hands earlier than you think cause I find my problem to be is I let my body and arms get way too far ahead before releasing the club and then I get stuck with face wide open cause I didn’t leave room to release.
It's a good point. You might be doing it really well but perceiving it differently.
Mr. Pratt, so you are throwing the club outwards at the top of swing as you turn?
Yes.
Steve, do you feel like the left side of the body is posting and whipping the right side around? Your swing looks like after the transition from your right side to left side that it is being whipped around by the left side of your body, further whipping your left arm hand release. It looks like that but not sure that is really happening?
You know that's a really good question. If the left hip is driving to 8 (target at 9) then yes it would almost act like a counter-pivot to the right side.
Good video and concept. But not everyone will have that training tool. Any drills to get this feel or something.
I have problems turnover my hand to much and hooking the ball bad
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Sure sounds like something Trump would say. Remember when he looked at the eclipse? Man, woman, person, tv, camera.
@@hutzman7664 ??? Lol
Does the uncocking happen with the trail hand or lead hand?
Thanks 😊
Both together as a couple.
Throw out head from the top changed my swing better than ever.
What's the name of that tool-club with the ball on it and where can I get one?
The Speed Whoosh. Head over to www.hititlonger.com and click on 'pro shop'.
Knew MIKE from his days at Griffith Park GC .Great man R I P .
I didn't hear that he was at Griffith Park. Could you email me Steve@hititlonger.com with any good Mike stories from that era?
“When” do u throw? At top of back swing? Start of down swing? At last parallel?
Start
This is excellent, I have a tendency to pull shots. This stops me doing this.
Speed Whoosh by Momentus , is it out of stock ? I’d like to buy one.
Unfortunately they decided not to sell them to smaller retailers anymore. But the Orange Whip Lightspeed is an equivalent (maybe better) product.
The laws of physics are pretty deterministic :) IN golf the rest is marketing. Let's agree that at impact one has fulled "casted" to make contact. So not casting is not an option. To "cast" too soon loses energy cause it's harder to move a long club fully extended. That is the equivalent of not breaking one's wrists but swinging stiff-wristed. "Casting" too late doesn't allow for the closing of the face - except without some inefficient contortions.
One must time the "cast" for the maximum club-head speed at impact. And that is determined by body rotation and strength.
Good insights Little O
When you say throw out, throw out from where to where? Sternum to behind us, etc.?
Out away from the body i.e. uncock the wrists.
It appears that your throwing motion is led by inner forearms elbows to hands like a baseball pitcher or even better a softball pitcher fast pitch I think at least I do this with my baseball swing a Charley sifford thing swing under his cigar actually goes back to Ben Hogan swing under a cigarette holder helps get on down swing plane I would prefer that kind of pulling rope over shoulder sets up throw but I believe all throwing motions including the jump shot in basketball start off elbow or elbows
The title of this video says it all.
Been doing this with a driver and works well. Does it applies to irons as well? I do the pull for the irons and I’m not sure if that’s the good thing
Yes.
Steve, I think I understand the "throw away" in that it starts immediately with the transition, however, what is the direction of the throw. Should it feel like you're throwing the clubbed and hands to first base, even though your target line is center field? Second, when does the forearm crossover begin in the swing? Before impact, at impact, or at some other point in the downswing? Your videos and teaching of the Austin swing have been eye openers!
FEEL is not universal, so you will have to find your feels as you practice freely throwing the club from the top through impact. The crossover begins just after both arms are fully extended (30 inches after impact).
Steve are you familiar with Dan Martin, a PGA teaching pro in your area? He has a teaching aid, basically a weight on a rope with a grip and describes a way to correctly swing that, I am wondering if you are familiar with it and if that is the same feeling you would advocate.
Yes I know Dan. I would have to see the device but it sounds good.
So what you're telling me there's a release and there's no drag
I find when pulling my hands they get way ahead and leave the face wide open.
To add to my previous question on the throw-away: rather than feeling like you're throwing the club head to first base, should it feel more like you're throwing it behind your right shoulder...like 180 degrees from the target line? Thanks
That is a viable feeling for SOME people. You'll have to dig yours out of the dirt.
Totally buy into this but when I throw the club my hand path is terrible. I don’t shallow the club properly, it ends up away from my body. How do you throw but bring the arms down correctly?
Maybe I throw it in the wrong direction?
That's the body action and the arm path.
Is it cool to have such a closed face at the top?
Its like what the holy grail channel says , the golf swing is out towards the ball not the target ?
3:20
How does one not flip with this action Steve? I can see how it might work with driver but with a short iron?
Try it in the garden without a ball - if you worry about striking a ball you'll slow down and flick. Just swing as hard as you can, like this, throw as you turn. I guarantee you'll hit the ground harder than you were expecting, in a good way, and once you get your timing, in front of where you thought you were going to.
There are lots of people who play this way (even pros) but it helps to be big and strong like you are. A near tour quality pro, David Knighton, at Southern Woods in Homosassa, Florida plays this way. He is very big and strong. David's swing looks effortless, but be will tell you that near impact he is hitting as hard as humanly possible It just looks easy. David can hit the ball almost 300 yards with his right hand only on the driver. I was not strong enough to use this swing. David once reached a long Par 5 with his broken left arm in a cast hanging in a sling from his neck. He missed the eagle putt..... David tried to quality for the U.S. Open at Bay Hill every year but never made it.
Jimmy Ballard teaches the same thing.