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  • VOLTAS DISHWASHER (DT85) HONEST REVIEW AFTER THREE MONTHS
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 195

  • @monika_sudan
    @monika_sudan  2 роки тому +2

    You can buy this dishwasher here. amzn.to/3h0ypvz

  • @passionpride2596
    @passionpride2596 3 роки тому +4

    Mubaraka for sweet little baby!😍🤗🌷
    Thanks for explaining! Such a benificial informative video!👏🙏

  • @kanalord4134
    @kanalord4134 2 роки тому +1

    Congrats for being a MOM !! Bosch gives no white stain whatever!! Resume from where ever there was a power failure in Bosch , never starts from beginning !! We use finish powder and rinse aid !!

  • @dr.poonammalik6319
    @dr.poonammalik6319 3 роки тому +1

    I tried fortune,ifb etc which did not work with hard water. Then I tried Finish quantum tabs I am using it with hardest water ..350 tds...leaves no stains.. wonderful results. Remember..finish quantum tabs. No white stains. However to remove white stains from your dishwasher you can use white vinegar or a descaler.

    • @monikachaudhary5965
      @monikachaudhary5965 3 роки тому

      Mere saath ulta hi ho raha hai..i bought mine in April..first two months i used fortune detergent provided by installation guy..it worked fine..after that pack finished i thought i will try finish k products but finish k results bahot bure hain..i am surprised coz ceramic pe roz stains milte hain.jabki main toh saare utensils proper wash kar k load karti hun.inki tarah stained bhi nahi.

  • @debjitroy3321
    @debjitroy3321 Рік тому +1

    Mera kichen top ka depth 45 cm hai mtlb 5 cm chota hai to koi issue hoga kya installation me ??? Please reply 🙏

  • @kalalakshmikaladharan
    @kalalakshmikaladharan 2 роки тому +2

    I'm also living in noida and using the same dishwasher. I don't have these issues. The water is extremely hard here . So u have to keep the salt setting at H3 or above. I have found that H3 is sufficient here and I haven't found any stains or marks till today after 6 months of using this dishwasher. 🙂💕

    • @shwetavineetseth2450
      @shwetavineetseth2450 2 роки тому

      What is your water hardness level ??

    • @kalalakshmikaladharan
      @kalalakshmikaladharan 2 роки тому

      @@shwetavineetseth2450 the TDS in my area is in the range 500 to 700.
      After few trials I have found that the salt level setting H3 is sufficient for me. After every filling, the salt will last for one month when set at H3. I have been using my dishwasher at this setting for the last 8 months. 💕

    • @rajisuji30
      @rajisuji30 5 місяців тому

      I’m using ifb detergent no stain my plates & all😊

  • @poojagaur5073
    @poojagaur5073 3 роки тому +2

    Very very nice. Thanks for reviews. After going through multiple promotional videos, finally got one genuine review of the product by the user.

  • @poojagaur5073
    @poojagaur5073 3 роки тому +1

    Congratulations on being a Mother :) Cheers to be still able to make videos to help all of us. big THANK YOU :) : )

  • @pasupathyvasaha168
    @pasupathyvasaha168 3 роки тому +1

    I just got this machine, thank you so much for making such informative video. Appreciate your efforts so much.

  • @deepakandrewprem
    @deepakandrewprem 3 роки тому

    We bought a machine a few days ago and your videos have been extremely helpful. You have a beautiful presentation style and a very heart warming smile.

  • @rajibganguly6030
    @rajibganguly6030 3 роки тому +1

    congrats Monika....be healthy....be safe with your kid.....I have decided to buy this mchn after watching your vedio... keep it up.... Thank you so much

  • @shalinivij9307
    @shalinivij9307 3 роки тому +2

    Congratulations ! Hope mother and child in good health.
    If we have soft water then also do we need to use salt and rinse it?
    Thank you.

    • @mzanpure
      @mzanpure 3 роки тому

      Yes. Rinse aid is the one giving shine to your utensils.

  • @nirzarivasavada5179
    @nirzarivasavada5179 3 роки тому

    Monika,we are using since 1 year,and we are using Finish Powerball

  • @sangobaksi9685
    @sangobaksi9685 3 роки тому

    Congratulations for baby....your words are encouraging...already ordered one...let see what happens

  • @shwetakashyap4548
    @shwetakashyap4548 3 роки тому +1

    Congratulations new mom🥳
    How ridiculous can people be if they ki aapne khud bartan dhoye ... i mean i m laughing on such people right now !
    Also dear mjhe kabhi kabhi bartan pe white spots ki dikkat kaafi aa jati hai ... may be settings theek naa ho meri ,.. aapki rinse aid aur salt ki setting kya kya hai aur aap spray arms kitne dino mei clean karte ho ???
    Ek baar aur demo kar sakte ho toh plz karna on clean and shine if possible

  • @happymiss8767
    @happymiss8767 3 роки тому +1

    Hi
    So good to see you after so long new momma! ❤️
    Where did you exchange your old aluminium dishes... I have no idea where to convert/replace the dishes

  • @yagneshful
    @yagneshful 11 місяців тому

    Thanks a lot for the informative video.
    Could u please help me out whether we can use cast iron or iron vessel in the dishwasher or not?

  • @kiransinghal4371
    @kiransinghal4371 2 роки тому

    As in washing machine eco means eco friendly neither too much electricity consumption nor water.i hv no dishwasher but fully auto washing machine

  • @rajadey8228
    @rajadey8228 2 роки тому +1

    Mam full load dene ke bad rinse aid kitna ml add karunga one time?

  • @jayaprakashb6414
    @jayaprakashb6414 6 місяців тому

    Pls make it clear that is electricity consumption is 5 to 6 rs per wash in 1.30 hours mode?

  • @arindamduttaroy2184
    @arindamduttaroy2184 3 роки тому

    Madamji i have using dishwasher samsung since 2013. today samsung india no long make dishwasher . but they give service to me. I will agree what you said in video. Best detergent is Finish . but it expensive. i also suggest use dishwater cleaning agent like lg have for period maintainance every 6 month.

  • @kurianify
    @kurianify 3 роки тому

    What about the water and waste plumbing? Are the inlets and outlets situated in the centre of the rear panel or on the side? If side, which side - left or right?

  • @SapnaSingh-tw2lo
    @SapnaSingh-tw2lo 3 роки тому

    I've switched from IFB to Finish.
    I usually choose 35 min cycle, light chali jati hai to ye vahi se start hota hai jaha pause hua tha..I noticed it many times

  • @PradeepKumarNekkanti
    @PradeepKumarNekkanti 2 роки тому +1

    Congratulations first of all for ur momhood.
    Watched ur vid bfr buying and ordered Dishwasher+IFB 3 things..
    Wash is OK to good but leaving white stains on every cookware. Then I watched ur first vid multiple times and ur dishes looked cleaner.. So returned assuming issue with Dishwasher as technician is not knowledgeful on the issue and resolution.

    • @monika_sudan
      @monika_sudan  2 роки тому +1

      There was no problem in dishwasher. It was the detergent that you were using

    • @PradeepKumarNekkanti
      @PradeepKumarNekkanti 2 роки тому

      ​@@monika_sudan Yes, I realized that after lately seeing this vid and ur other video on "Best Dishwasher Detergent" 🙂.
      (almost an year bk) I returned Beko within first week as my mom was not happy with the white coats. There was no reference on web/youtube for those white coats then : ) .
      But I surely believe your First Beko video was a great review/guide/demo for everyone.
      Thanks for your response and Keep doing great content .
      Cheers!

  • @retinalsurgerysimplified4179
    @retinalsurgerysimplified4179 3 роки тому +1

    I bought the voltas beko dishwasher from flipkart. Installation and demo was to be done by the Voltas Beko expert as per the order. The local service centre at Jalandhar refused to install the dishwasher. The person was rude and left the work midway.

    • @venusv601
      @venusv601 Рік тому

      I think it is difficult to use dishwasher

  • @supriyakoki4268
    @supriyakoki4268 Рік тому

    AAP k isaab se koun sa ditergent best hi voltas beko k liya finish or fourtune, AAP ka video dek k hum ne bhi voltas beko dish washer liya hi

  • @sapnagaur9982
    @sapnagaur9982 2 роки тому

    Mai bhi Soch rhi hu, Dishwasher purchase Karne ki liye. Thanks to gave information.

  • @jayaprakashb6414
    @jayaprakashb6414 6 місяців тому

    can pressure cooker be washed ,such a 3 litres, 4 litres?

  • @rajisethi3524
    @rajisethi3524 2 роки тому

    I also want to replace my aluminum utensils. Which kadai and cooker did your buy?

  • @Ravikalavidh1259
    @Ravikalavidh1259 Рік тому

    4:30 u have to tell in detail
    If per unit charge is 5 Rs in ur state
    *Intensive mode -2.66 hour session & 1.25 kWh= i.e. 1.25×2.66=3.3 unit=3.3×5rs= 16.50 Rs per cycle apprx
    *Normal mode--2.5 hours session--1.05kwh=1.05×2.5 hour=2.6 unit =2.6×5Rs--13Rs per cycle apprx
    Like vise
    *Eco mode =10.5Rs per 0.7 kWh consumption for 3 hours cycle
    *Glass care mode= 5.5 Rs per 0.7 kWh consumption for 1.6 hours cycle
    *clean & shine mode= 8.50Rs per 1.15 kWh consumption for 1.5hours cycle
    * mini mode-- 1.5 Rs per 0.52 kWh consumption for 0.6 hours(35 minutes) cycle

    • @nd6717
      @nd6717 Рік тому

      Who told you dishwasher uses 1 unit per hour?

    • @avp.69
      @avp.69 Рік тому

      That's not how it works at all. The wattage stated is the peak wattage, it does not mean it's operating at that wattage for the full duration of the cycle.
      The peak wattage only comes into play when it's heating the water. Once that's done the power consumption drops down drastically as the heater stops and only the washing motor functions which consumes very little power

    • @Ravikalavidh1259
      @Ravikalavidh1259 Рік тому

      @@nd6717 who told u that its not taking ...according to program

    • @Ravikalavidh1259
      @Ravikalavidh1259 Рік тому

      @@avp.69 I have checked with wattage checking device..ur right but it takes exactly what company mentioned...

  • @poojagaur5073
    @poojagaur5073 3 роки тому +1

    I have a question - Is it a good idea to put the cover on dishwasher ? Will it heat the product ? Did you try put it ?

    • @SapnaSingh-tw2lo
      @SapnaSingh-tw2lo 3 роки тому +1

      I've covered my dishwasher...its not heating

    • @poojagaur5073
      @poojagaur5073 3 роки тому

      @@SapnaSingh-tw2lo can u pls share link of the cover...
      Not able to find for 8 place....most of them is for 12

    • @chouhansh
      @chouhansh 2 роки тому

      I'm using the same machine and covered it with this👆

  • @yagneshdave4052
    @yagneshdave4052 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for your detailed information

  • @PalwankarRavi
    @PalwankarRavi 2 роки тому +1

    Thx a lot. Wonderful explanation.

  • @rajadey8228
    @rajadey8228 2 роки тому

    Mam jyada heavy oily kadai, handi direct machine pe dalega na kya primary handy normally wash karke dalna hoga machine pe?

  • @ishakapoor9774
    @ishakapoor9774 3 роки тому

    Thanks for such an honest review.
    I think u can try the soap specially made for dishwasher, it has salt and cleaning agent in it Nd it is placed where u put detergent🙂

  • @subhradip24
    @subhradip24 Рік тому

    Best of luck and congratulations for the parenting experience 😊

  • @nikitapatel9063
    @nikitapatel9063 9 місяців тому

    Mam isme roti banane ka tava rakh sakte hai kya?

  • @AbhijitJoshi_DripGuru
    @AbhijitJoshi_DripGuru 3 роки тому

    Can we use coated vessels with the dishwasher...will coating go away?

  • @ash_shorts1382
    @ash_shorts1382 2 роки тому

    Mam question just came in my mind can we wash coated cookware like ceramic coating or etc? And what is e71 or e? error as I saw in customer review in amazon ?

  • @manjulikesmusic
    @manjulikesmusic 3 роки тому +1

    Is it good to use non stick or hard anodized utensil in this dishwasher??

  • @pn2709
    @pn2709 3 роки тому

    Madam, how difficult (or easy) is the installation? Also, doesn't look like it takes up a lot of space.

  • @maninderkaur8851
    @maninderkaur8851 Рік тому

    Mai to bus salt and rinse and shine dalti hun... I guess it's detergent. M I true?

  • @shraddhasinghal6964
    @shraddhasinghal6964 3 роки тому +1

    Hi dear I am planning to buy this model but want to know regarding size as my kitchen top is exactly 60cm height ... and then the cupboard is there ... so I am bit skeptical . Can you help me in this regards?? And can you pl measure with yours as I can see your storage is also there just above the dishwasher.. please help dear

    • @monika_sudan
      @monika_sudan  3 роки тому

      Hi Shraddha , I am out of station otherwise would have helped you.
      You can do one thing, just check the dimensions of the product on Amazon.

    • @bhaskarjain2002
      @bhaskarjain2002 3 роки тому

      Will surely work. Even our kitchen counter has 60cm height and then cupboard is there. This dishwasher height is 59cm actually, Amazon shows 59.5cm which is wrong.

  • @Lovelotus17
    @Lovelotus17 3 роки тому +1

    Does this model has steam drying ? . If not then how intense is the dryness after wash cycle .

    • @monika_sudan
      @monika_sudan  3 роки тому

      Drying process is not that intense but does the job perfectly. You will always get the dishes dry after every cycle.

  • @shreshthak3461
    @shreshthak3461 3 роки тому

    We have installed this dishwasher today only nd this video has cleared everything 🤩🤩🤩thank you so much

    • @FanofTata
      @FanofTata 2 роки тому

      You installed by yourself or voltas executive done the installation??

  • @jagdeepsinghddi2568
    @jagdeepsinghddi2568 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for valuable information in fact the first thing which I wanted to know was white thing which remains after washing got cleared but I want to know is why detergent is left behind in the slot.

    • @chhayachadha4269
      @chhayachadha4269 3 роки тому +1

      You may be using too much detergent. Try reducing if you are using powder..

    • @jagdeepsinghddi2568
      @jagdeepsinghddi2568 3 роки тому

      @@chhayachadha4269 thanks a lot.

  • @AuditCA84
    @AuditCA84 2 роки тому +1

    In which mode utensils will clean best,? In 35mnt cycle what is the result?

    • @monika_sudan
      @monika_sudan  2 роки тому

      Intensive is best but if you want to spend less electricity then eco mode and 35 min wash cycle you can prefer for slightly dirty dishes.

  • @swatisoft
    @swatisoft 2 роки тому

    So sweet of u very honest ...

  • @madangopal7581
    @madangopal7581 3 роки тому

    Both your videos are nice. Can u also upload. The inlet and outlet connections how its is fixed?

    • @mzanpure
      @mzanpure 3 роки тому

      Just like washing machine.

  • @karanbabakhan
    @karanbabakhan 2 роки тому

    can you put it on top of LG front load washing machine?

  • @arunshankars8398
    @arunshankars8398 3 роки тому +1

    Madam, what brand dishwasher powder do you use ?

    • @monika_sudan
      @monika_sudan  3 роки тому

      Vim tablets. Use half tablet per wash. It gives amazing results.

  • @fernandaampli5517
    @fernandaampli5517 Рік тому

    Porque sua lava-louças ficou manchada de branco?

  • @drpriyankap3008
    @drpriyankap3008 2 роки тому

    Mam mujhe janna hai diswashar on hone ke baad agar pani ki supply band (by mistake, tanki me pani finish) ho jaye to kya hoga.

  • @prakashsurya5659
    @prakashsurya5659 2 роки тому +1

    Can u give solution to my qs why some dishes are not getting cleaned even after soaked so much time in water before in dishwasher

    • @monika_sudan
      @monika_sudan  2 роки тому

      Wrong placement or wrong detergent

  • @ashokchandwani3561
    @ashokchandwani3561 3 роки тому

    Madam ji only 2 person family
    I buy today same is right decision
    Madam 1 time wash
    Salt 1 kg kitne din chalta hai
    Aur rinse aid kitna chalta

    • @monika_sudan
      @monika_sudan  3 роки тому

      It depends. how many times you wash the dishes

  • @dimplesingh3923
    @dimplesingh3923 3 роки тому

    Hello Ma'am, I wanted to ask how do you get dry utensils even on the inside part of the vessels facing down since I have using the machine for a week now and even after using the intensive mode and after the cycle is completed I open the machine after 10 minutes and keep the door a little open for 20-30 minutes before taking the dishes out, the utensils are never completely dry like yours

  • @snehdahiya2713
    @snehdahiya2713 3 роки тому +2

    1st comment, nice to see you after a long time 🥰

  • @963irfan
    @963irfan 3 роки тому

    Hi,
    Could you give a short reply on the effects of the dishwasher on non-stick cookware? Coz you explained regarding steel and aluminium but didnt mention non-stick utensils.
    Thanks in advance.

    • @mzanpure
      @mzanpure 3 роки тому

      Non stick cookware cannot be washed in dishwasher just like Aluminum brass copper and iron utensils.

  • @kshamasharma5703
    @kshamasharma5703 11 місяців тому

    Mam nanstick cooker main whiteness kyu aarhi hai

  • @Jinns_Inns
    @Jinns_Inns 2 роки тому +1

    Can I leave dishwasher overnight working, will it auto off after working?

  • @himanigupta8843
    @himanigupta8843 2 роки тому +1

    Do you rinse vessels before putting in dishwasher

  • @ayushdutta7797
    @ayushdutta7797 2 роки тому

    V nic vlog . How is the customer service of voltas beko ? Installation me do the person comes on time to fix it ?

    • @monika_sudan
      @monika_sudan  2 роки тому

      Don’t worry they come on time to fix it

  • @snehdahiya2713
    @snehdahiya2713 3 роки тому +1

    Nicely explained everything.

  • @mohdafzal6256
    @mohdafzal6256 3 роки тому

    Thanks mam u explain is very good

  • @ronalddias9916
    @ronalddias9916 2 роки тому

    What is the biggest vessel you can wash in voltas 8 place dish washer? And how many?

    • @monika_sudan
      @monika_sudan  2 роки тому

      You can wash 5 litres steel pressure cooker
      Steel Kadhai

  • @saritadewangan1222
    @saritadewangan1222 10 місяців тому

    Soap dispenser ka open hona normal hai kya

  • @shivanihr5879
    @shivanihr5879 2 роки тому

    Hum liquid dishwasher soap use kar sakte hai kya?

  • @manyamsgirl18
    @manyamsgirl18 Рік тому

    Hi how is it working now

  • @SapnaSingh-tw2lo
    @SapnaSingh-tw2lo 3 роки тому +1

    Congrats dear

  • @anibis743
    @anibis743 3 роки тому

    good content
    liked that ----" whayyy thya hyaalll i'will i duuu thyaat !"

  • @s.s.s.77
    @s.s.s.77 2 роки тому +1

    Which table top voltage model no. Is best? Now I will decide to purchase. Plz help

    • @monika_sudan
      @monika_sudan  2 роки тому

      8 place will be the best . One that I reviewed.

  • @moitraarka
    @moitraarka 3 роки тому

    What about the non sticky utensils, can it be used in dishwasher?

  • @riyankaghosh3597
    @riyankaghosh3597 3 роки тому

    Kya hum dishwasher main nonstick ka barthan dho shakti hu??????

  • @rajisethi3524
    @rajisethi3524 2 роки тому

    Also make a video on the dishwasher safe utensils

  • @7tgamer315
    @7tgamer315 2 роки тому

    electricity consumption in 1 wash.. 1:30 min slot?

  • @divyaaggarwal2634
    @divyaaggarwal2634 2 роки тому

    Hi, thanks for making this video ♥️
    Can I wash iron tawa in this dishwasher?

    • @monika_sudan
      @monika_sudan  2 роки тому

      YES

    • @shurbhimundhra3285
      @shurbhimundhra3285 10 місяців тому

      Hi can I wash plastic dabba in this??

    • @divyaaggarwal2634
      @divyaaggarwal2634 10 місяців тому

      @shurbhimundhra3285 you can wash only Tupperware plastic in this. Or whenever you buy any plastic dabba make sure it's dishwasher safe.

  • @bhagwanSingh-vg3sf
    @bhagwanSingh-vg3sf 3 роки тому

    Bolne valo ko bolne do aapne bahut achha bataye 👍👍

  • @rajadey8228
    @rajadey8228 2 роки тому

    Mam how the quality of this dishwasher?
    Meyne gift karunga mery mom ko.
    Pls reply

    • @monika_sudan
      @monika_sudan  2 роки тому +1

      It’s awesome. Just go for it😊. amzn.to/3h0ypvz

  • @samirshah49
    @samirshah49 3 роки тому

    Thank you dear

  • @FanofTata
    @FanofTata 2 роки тому

    Per day 2 times chala sakte he ? Koi problem to nahi aayegi?

  • @geetasingh1590
    @geetasingh1590 3 роки тому

    Thanks ,regards

  • @Ravikalavidh1259
    @Ravikalavidh1259 Рік тому

    Can we wash food processor jars in it?

  • @jagdeepsinghddi2568
    @jagdeepsinghddi2568 3 роки тому

    It is really a fantastic thing for house wifes.Our water is very hard can I keep the hardness to 5.

  • @niteshbhs1
    @niteshbhs1 2 роки тому

    Congratulations madam

  • @madhavirajavolu5987
    @madhavirajavolu5987 10 місяців тому

    Hot water provision is available

  • @ritanjalibabu6941
    @ritanjalibabu6941 2 роки тому

    Meri volltas bekoDt8s Mini programme me 7 se sidhe 1 por jump kar raha hea me kay karu

  • @renunarang8344
    @renunarang8344 2 роки тому +1

    How much water consumption in 35 minutes cycle

  • @prahladyadav8873
    @prahladyadav8873 3 роки тому

    Love 💕 to a mom and new life 🧬 generator

  • @lakh-virsinghsandhu9080
    @lakh-virsinghsandhu9080 2 роки тому

    Thanks mam

  • @piyalibanerjee8916
    @piyalibanerjee8916 3 роки тому

    Can I wash pressure cooker and non stick utensils in this dishwasher?

    • @sapnagaur9982
      @sapnagaur9982 2 роки тому

      Only Steel Cooker, not Non-Stick utensils.

  • @AbcDef-oq3pl
    @AbcDef-oq3pl 5 місяців тому

    small dishwasher height and width in cm

  • @Rohit.Panchal
    @Rohit.Panchal 3 роки тому

    Hii Monika..35 min k mode pe utensils kaisi wash Hoti he??

    • @nainamandal8243
      @nainamandal8243 2 роки тому

      It does not use the detergent.onky water washing as told by the demonstrator

  • @artisaini4346
    @artisaini4346 3 роки тому

    Steel cooker ,oska dhakkan gasket samet dho sakte hain kya

  • @chweetanupama
    @chweetanupama 3 роки тому

    Hi, i am using the same dishwasher. but all my utensils have white stain. and the vessel in which i am making the tea is not at all cleaning properly. please help. i live in noida

    • @arkasarkar3901
      @arkasarkar3901 3 роки тому

      that is probably due to hard water in your area .use water softner or other wise it will damage your hair,washing machine ,dish washer

  • @ankitasharma7985
    @ankitasharma7985 2 роки тому

    Very helpful video 👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @chitralakhotia4531
    @chitralakhotia4531 3 роки тому

    Plz tell the monthly electricity bil if I use it twice a day.we are only 2 in my family

  • @sumanbasu5384
    @sumanbasu5384 3 роки тому

    Are non stick cookwares safe to clean in a dishwasher

  • @saraswatimalakar6151
    @saraswatimalakar6151 3 роки тому

    You are very nice person.

  • @rajnigupta3187
    @rajnigupta3187 2 роки тому

    Difference between Volta’s and bosh.

  • @b.k.pandey8431
    @b.k.pandey8431 3 роки тому +1

    3 hrs ,2 hrs me kitna water barbad hota hoga sochiye

    • @SpeedFreaksDIY
      @SpeedFreaksDIY 3 роки тому +1

      Max 12 litres........ understand the technology behind it...