Lmao true. I hope they polish auto play a little bit to the point that it's not necessarily better and accurate than manual, but just a bit more on point and efficient
I swear in hsr crit value is almost not important at all. They giving free crit like it's nothing. E6 hunt march has *40* cdmg for free for a free char 🤯
Feixiao + Moze is so fun because it's literally like Moze > Moze > Moze > Feixaio > Aventurine back to back, then Feixiao's turn starts and it's likely Feixiao and Moze again. Literally "haha team go brrrrrrt" that FUA already is but now on steroids. It also being good damage and synergistic to Feixiao is just a bonus on top.
I'm planning to run her with e0s1 Topaz + Moze with Ratio's sig once Topaz's banner comes live. In his CE video with Moze, he did this line up against Kafka and manage to 0 cycle which is crazy for a robinless comp and being triple dps.
she's really fun to use, i use her with march hunt, sparkle, and fu xuan and i really like when the follow up come out one by one still can clear MOC because i need more do relic farming but i finally can clear current apo
"The current MoC is too weak for feixiao" "Powercreeping her won't be too easy" Mihoyo: hey let's make elite have 5M HP and boss have 10M HP in MoC. And then let's make a character that can deal 3M dmg in 1 hit in E0S0
I've never 0 cycled before, nor have I ever really tried. I 0 cycled both MoC 11 and 12 with just 1 attempt each with Feixao's premium team with Topaz S1 being the only extra investment.
Which is 90% out of our control. Getting a relic set and planer set with crit and sufficient spd is complete nightmare when there's so many trash substats exists and even if you get lucky enough to get such piece, rng ruins it completely.
bro i currently have 150 spd by sacrificing attack rope but have 148 with attack rope. what is the best speed threshhold for max actions, is it 160? feixao is the only one i seriously considered for advanced speed tuning others i just take whatever rolls i can.
The recent stream where you didn’t miss a single 50/50 for E6 Fei Xiao and then proceeded to get S5 for her right after without losing as well was so insane. I was so hype!
FINALLY SOMEONE THAT COVERS YANQING'S LC AS PART OF THE OPTIONS, SO FAR ALL THE OTHER CCs ALL SKIPPED YANQING'S LC FOR SOME REASON. Sorry I only have either cruising or yanqing's lc as options for my feixiao so that is why I was trying to find a cc that will touch on this. THANK YOU POKKE
@@panpan9140 ye ik but i need to cope as my s5 cruising is on march so I was just wondering if yanqing's lc was a viable option since none of the other ccs i watched touched on his lc at all.
It's because she values crit rate more, a statstick with crit dmg main stat like Sleep Like the Dead ends up being just that, and pretty redundant as the second part will also pretty much never happen. March probably uses it better because she cycles through the 3 turn cooldown faster with the advance.
The difference is, Feixiao doesn't care who she hits with her skill and follow-up, they all count as stacks for her ult, Seele however loses a good portion of her dps if she can't take out the mob
Fe Xiao vs Ratio comparison was not included despite promised in pull analysis. I am currently trapped in the dilemma of E0S0 Fe Xiao and replace Ratio OR E1S1 Topaz and skip Fei Xiao in the 5 star FUA team. Currently everyone is E0S0 so Ratio doesn’t have guaranteed FUA.
Go for feixiao she's really good and does way more damage than ratio in my personal experience. Just replaced Ratio with feixiao and with no other changes went from 4-5 cycle moc to 0 cycles. Insane stuff.
@@TheRealLapdepends tbh. You have Aventurine? With e0S1 Topaz and him, that’s enough debuffs for Ratio. On the other hand, Feixiao doesn’t NEED debuffs for her personal max damage and she won’t get power crept until at least halfway through the 3.x patches.
Mihoyo: “How do we powercreep FUA/Break meta?” Intern: “Just introduce summons…” Mihoyo: “Let’s bring in more rows for enemies & also have summons to increase the party size to be over 5 characters (shoutout NUMBYS)”
Whether she’s worth it or not is completely up to you and your account, she’s definitely better than ratio but if you already have him it’s a more of a decision
Excellente! Another smashing video... Wish you cud have added more of the runs at the end for noobs like me. 😊... Pls pls add the entire video of those runs with runes. Pls
I almost passed on her because i just got sparkle for DHIL and jiaoqiu for archeon so really don't need a new DPS super bad. But between how the game seems like it slowly going back to single target focus/hypercarry meta along with the summon mechanics we'll be getting in Greece (her stacks will proc with every summon action) so her being in FUA team isn't necessary, I decided to pull her. Can already tell im not going to be regretting it.
@@Badieon About time people understand most big claims like that are a huge stretch because the game is better balanced and nuanced than that. It's just glazing, he does that every time.
yeah, in the feixiao reddit/discord the guide and calculations have moze being less than 10% worse than topaz. i cannot believe he is actually 20% better than her
@@MaineOneV1they were completely wrong on zenless zone zero calcs for zhu yuan best light cones, they didnt even know the difference between combat attack and normal attack boosts
never thought i'd see another broken dps as acheron. but i think feixiao is even more busted than acheron. I have them both at e0s1. Feixiao is so stupidly busted lmao its so fun
Feixiao seems like a blast to play! 🎉 I love characters that can just keep attacking and make things interesting. 🌪️ It’ll be fun to see how she shakes up team comps too. Do you guys think she’ll change the meta in a big way? 🤔
feel very sorry for people that want to run follow-up team, but does not have adventurine, he is the most needed in the team comp for his shield and follow-up att, me too personally
Lmaooo, I hit 137 speed off of subs, atk boots 3.4K atk, 100.2/110. The cv looks really funny but I know my FUA team gear and lc gives almost 200 crit dmg. This is also a PSA to fua players, cr is far more valuable than CD.
“Powercreeping her won’t be too easy” Oh boy. I remember when they said the same thing about Jingliu. They even said the same thing about Acheron. Now everyone considers Feixiao the best DPS. She’ll get powercrept in 3.x. I guarantee you. HSR always finds a way to powercreep already strong characters.
Actually, DHIL was considered the unit that scaled better into the future. Jingliu got a lot of free stats, but she also scaled poorly because of that + being so reliant on her enhanced form.
Moze without a doubt is one of the strongest 4*s in the game, but I just can't believe he provides around 20% more team damage than Topaz. I can agree that he gives more personal damage, but his team's total team damage is stronger than Topaz's? Obviously the CN analysis know their stuff so I'm not gonna just say they're wrong, but what about everyone else? I'm seeing guides and calculations from the Feixiao discord/reddit saying Topaz over Moze in the BIS team. The difference between them is generally less than 10% though, which shows how strong Moze is, but they're really saying he's that much better? Why is the consensus so different?
She quickly became my favorite unit in hsr. Her playstyle and animations are insanely good, even her idle animations are w rizz, but her character and lore are my favorite by far. Acheron seemed a bit too edgy for my liking imo
I know it's not that deep,but calling her story edgy is insane work. Like did you even read through the dialogue? Did you understand what it was all about? You can like vanilla ice cream without having to shit on chocolate ice cream yk
I sometimes think they googled on the Internet edgy misunderstood swordsman and copied and pasted it on Acheron character sheet. It's that or she is someone's 8th grade self insert from their chunni days. I still cringe at the whole it was two slashes the second one was just faster. That whole sequence was bad ass and u just ruined it by saying the cringest thing u could of said. Feixiao knows she is a bad ass and what does she do. She humble brags. Which is hilarious and her loud, boastful personality u just can't help but fall in love with her character. #MyGeneralcan'tbethisCute lol
@user-jq2rq3mx1v read all the dialogs, watched all cutscenes, and I still feel like she's edgy. Not just in the plot, but also character design. She's purple w a katana and turns black and red. As you said, it's not that deep friend :)
@ravenwong651 I honestly don't mind dialogue that's exaggeratory and performative such as that, but it's the combination of everything that gets me. Her appearance, the way she speaks, and being an emanator of Nihility and IX. It just reminds me of a 14 year old emo drama/theater kid personally
I was wondering this too. I know that no spd subs w/ spd boots is 137, but if we're talking about atk boots I'm not sure if getting above the 134 breakpoint is necessary?
@@MereleFerele I know that there are sub break points, where you can shave some time (like, 128 speed is enough, if you go for 3 actions in 0th and 1st cycles, instead of two actions in 0th and one in 1st), but I still don't get why it may be 137 specifically for the content
18:31 - Moze's damage dealt in a team being only 15% lower than FEIXIAO is not being talked about enough if that is true... WTF?? Edit: Nvm, i just remembered how ratio's work, its still pretty impressive though as a 4 star dps compared to the top dps in the game
I just did inert salsotto for more fua and ultimate damage, the duran set only gives her what 25% crit damage which even with a 1:2 it still doesn't hit half the time so that 15% bonus ultimate damage would be better imo
Duran gives 25% FuA DMG and 25% overall Crit DMG. It’s clearly better as you should be focusing on reaching 90+ Crit Rate and letting (with premium team) Robin’s talent and A4, Topaz’s E1/S1, Aventurine Ult, and Feixiao’s own A4 to make up for the lower base Crit DMG.
The damage increase from signature lc is ≈20%. And the difference is not even that insane compared to Acheron and her signature lc which is 30% damage increase
@@ch1dd Moze is enourmously advantaged in situations where he doesn't have to reapply his mark. If the target dies before he can do his FuAs you wasted damage and have a significant downtime where the enemy is not debuffed, also until you place another mark he doesn't benefit in any way from the allies' attacks unlike Topaz and March.
i´m curious how the rates for moze are in comparison to the other characters. i just got 4 luka´s, 3 asta´s and a xueyi... and ZERO copies of moze... thats kinda messed up...
10 everything, but if you must leave one at 8 just leave skill. Talent has a damage buff aside from the multiplier, and ult is the main source of damage.
Remember when people kept dooming over and over and over and would not shut up about how bad hunt is and that feixiao would be an ez skip because hunt=bad. This is what you guys get now, you guys asked for this powercreep.
What exactly makes moze stronger than topaz specifically? It’d be odd for a 4-star to just have straight up better multipliers than a limited 5-star, even a 1.x one. Idk anything about moze so what’s up with that?
It depends on your investment on Topaz. If your Topaz is E1S1 she's a direct upgrade especially on Ratio Teams. At E0S1 she's surpassed by E6S1 (Worrisome) Moze but she's better than him at E2. At E0S0, Moze E2 is better. I believe there's a comparison sheet online. For Ratio specifically it's because of the debuffs. For Feixiao I'm not sure.
he does deal more damage, BUT he is sp negative, harder to manage and needs E6 to be overall better which is already the same as getting a 5*, also his debuff needs to be reapplied and as Pokke said because of the fixed action value he goes practically after everyone. Topaz provides comfortability and the 100% uptime on the debuff
The goat gallagher, lingsha if you'll get her later, march preservation if you have the brains for it and isn't using hunt march, luocha. Rest is rest, just don't use huohuo
@@NM-kx8ud ah, my bad 😅 I didn't have alot of time when I saw this video, so i kinda just skimmed through what i needed to know. I completely missed on the sustain part of the team comps section, but thank you all in the replies for enlightening me anyway, really appreciate it!
I'm sorry, Boothill is still king of single target DPS. Feixiao and Acheron's DPS is so backloaded by their ultimate stacks. Meanwhile, every turn with Boothill I am doing enough damage to wipe an enemy off the screen. The issue at hand isn't total damage, it's the effective damage distribution. It doesn't matter if you can hit 1+mil damage on Feixiao ultimate if you overkill with that damage. Boothill is able to evenly distribute smaller bursts of damage but is then immediately able to swap to his next target when he is finished. Meanwhile, I have to wait for Acheron or Feixiao's stack count to do comparable damage later in the turn cycle. Getting off damage earlier can make or break a clear, whether it's for a 0 cycle or min clear cycle for newer players.
@@TryingjoinaclanNo she is not. Boothill's drawback is that he typically needs some weaker targets to get his 3 stars to show up. On the other hand, unlike Fei Xiao and a lot of other dps, he needs no investment into crit rate or crit damage. Pros and cons with Boothill vs Fei Xiao.
keep in mind fart team is literally just followup team with a little more backloaded damage, but with robin's presence normal fuas can also hit like trucks and eliminate trash mobs, so disregarding investment feixiao does better damage overall in her best team vs boothill.
E6 firefly, Lunae, Acheron, Feixiao are eternally op because they are a couple times stronger than current top dps at e0-1 that we have right now and if they ever make that not op then 70% of our units we have right know wont be close of clearing anything. So by logic yeah, especially since feixiao is raw crit dps colorless damage
I have one issue with this entire video, I understand adventurine is the best support for her, but mabye showcase a team recommendation or showcase without him, this video makes it look like i have to have him
Lingsha is a limited break synergistic focused healer only reason to pull her is luxury in break teams and shouldnt be relevant to pull outside of that due to other stronger options.
dr. ratios cone is way smarter to invest in. i'm assuming ur not a spender - ratios cone is not only almost as good as feixiaos on her (the difference is minuscule), it's also incredibly versatile. you can put it on moze, march, feixiao and on ratio himself of course. meanwhile feixiaos cone is tailored specifically for her and while the dmg is slightly better (literally only by 1% if you run moze / topaz with ratio cone) it's not versatile at all - no other character wants to use it. tl;dr if you LOVE feixiao you can go for it but it's better to wait for ratios rerun and get his one
@@LadyYunalescain a nutshell, he joined a tournament with another youtuber, and the other guy went into the tournament with underleveled characters (i think they were lvl 75 with lvl 70 light-cones) and traces weren't at max, the winners would get 10k dollars so each of them would have gotten 5k but pokke lost because of the other guy, and the other guy said pokke was at fault because he didn't tell him to max his traces This is just according to what I read in other comments, I don't know the whole story
Since when is Acheron " the auto play champion"?- more like ulting into a single half dead tv champion
Lmao true. I hope they polish auto play a little bit to the point that it's not necessarily better and accurate than manual, but just a bit more on point and efficient
Not even half dead. She'll ult on a TV that my lvl 20 Arlan could kill with a sneeze
@@robilala2135 autobatle will never check to make sure Robin’s skill is up if she can use ult, it’s so annoying how often it wastes damage
Ahh yes the Acheron experience 😭😭
Yeah. And E'ing into the left most mob when she could hit all 3 😂 Acheron experience
10:50
"our current endgame content too weak for feixiao"
i heard this line as well last year,
it was inhibitor lunae
Oh how the mighty has fallen...
I also heard that about Jingliu...
when MOC 10 was the hardest content in the game
very odd statement , i am personally not very impressed with feixiao , i dont think she even surpass boothill
@@potatopcgamer739me neither
@@potatopcgamer739well according to the numbers this video presents she does
Honkai star rail will find a way to powercreep 3 attacks/fua per turn.
Like how they power crept free 50 crit rate and 4k attack every skill.
I swear in hsr crit value is almost not important at all. They giving free crit like it's nothing. E6 hunt march has *40* cdmg for free for a free char 🤯
they just need supports tailored for them
Eh it's still up to your build, imagine not building your characters 💀
Jingliu never gets 4k attack lol.
I look for high multipliers now before pulling. Anything that does above 600% and is frequent enough.
She's such a fun character in follow up spamming follow ups
Feixiao + Moze is so fun because it's literally like
Moze > Moze > Moze > Feixaio > Aventurine back to back, then Feixiao's turn starts and it's likely Feixiao and Moze again. Literally "haha team go brrrrrrt" that FUA already is but now on steroids.
It also being good damage and synergistic to Feixiao is just a bonus on top.
Did a comp with March 7, Topaz, and feixiao earlier just to see and the number of follow up attacks was fucking hilarious!
I'm planning to run her with e0s1 Topaz + Moze with Ratio's sig once Topaz's banner comes live. In his CE video with Moze, he did this line up against Kafka and manage to 0 cycle which is crazy for a robinless comp and being triple dps.
she's really fun to use, i use her with march hunt, sparkle, and fu xuan and i really like when the follow up come out one by one still can clear MOC because i need more do relic farming but i finally can clear current apo
"The current MoC is too weak for feixiao" "Powercreeping her won't be too easy"
Mihoyo: hey let's make elite have 5M HP and boss have 10M HP in MoC. And then let's make a character that can deal 3M dmg in 1 hit in E0S0
😂😂😂😂😂
Let's also lock the toughness bar to troll Firefly and Boothill because why not
"But sir how about balancing? Other hyper carries will experince hell will 10million hp enemies"
"Balancing? Whats that?"
I enjoy these unit analysis videos so much more than the reaction stuff. I just love classic mellow Mr Pokke.
I've never 0 cycled before, nor have I ever really tried. I 0 cycled both MoC 11 and 12 with just 1 attempt each with Feixao's premium team with Topaz S1 being the only extra investment.
5:21 Elation Bronya goes wild
"we have Sparkle at home"
speedtuning section is really helpful, hope mr pokke talk this detailed in future videos.
Which is 90% out of our control. Getting a relic set and planer set with crit and sufficient spd is complete nightmare when there's so many trash substats exists and even if you get lucky enough to get such piece, rng ruins it completely.
bro i currently have 150 spd by sacrificing attack rope but have 148 with attack rope. what is the best speed threshhold for max actions, is it 160? feixao is the only one i seriously considered for advanced speed tuning others i just take whatever rolls i can.
Getting an E6 4* is way harder than a base Topaz. You might even get her LC by the time you get halfway there for Moze. She's also way more flexible.
i managed to get e2s1 feixiao before e6 moze
E2 is enough. Anything else after E2 is self damage.
I got his E9 before I got my second limited char (I didn't get her)
I agree I did 50 pulls on the Feixiao banner and I didn't get a single copy of Moze
True, i only got up to E4 Moze with 180 pulls. Insane. Its like the rate up for 4* doesnt exist.
Thanks for the very indepth video, as a new player the part about speed tuning was eye opening
Thanks Mr.Pokke!!! i understand the guide 🎉
I want a boss that have Yunli's counter mechanic for each attack they receive.
Oh how funny you mention that
the guy with a shilder of belobog, but his is just a elite
@@zikstreme unfortunately only counter once per turn
Aventurine will still get more shield stacks...
@@ravenwong651 he keeps countering unless you break him or kill his minions (im pretty sure)
"our current endgame content is too weak for feixao"
HSR 3.5
"our current endgame content is too strong for feixao"
i swear i hear that back i 1.5 when jingliu and IL brute force was a thing 😂
Every patch that goes by I'm more and more satisfied after pulling ratios lc
I always wait till you drop CN analysis video, thank u pokke ❤
if you use eagle set on Moze, he goes right up the action bar after he exits prey mode.
The recent stream where you didn’t miss a single 50/50 for E6 Fei Xiao and then proceeded to get S5 for her right after without losing as well was so insane. I was so hype!
Skill issue by my part then (i lost the 75/25 to gepard LC)
@@g.p.b7244give it to aventurine.
@@g.p.b7244 us vro us 😭😭 I lost to yanking and gepard both at the same didn't get her
@@g.p.b7244 atleast you have good LC for her BiS sustain
He pulled for his own account and got E2 btw. Won all 3.
FINALLY SOMEONE THAT COVERS YANQING'S LC AS PART OF THE OPTIONS, SO FAR ALL THE OTHER CCs ALL SKIPPED YANQING'S LC FOR SOME REASON. Sorry I only have either cruising or yanqing's lc as options for my feixiao so that is why I was trying to find a cc that will touch on this. THANK YOU POKKE
That was s5 btw
@@panpan9140 ye ik but i need to cope as my s5 cruising is on march so I was just wondering if yanqing's lc was a viable option since none of the other ccs i watched touched on his lc at all.
It's because she values crit rate more, a statstick with crit dmg main stat like Sleep Like the Dead ends up being just that, and pretty redundant as the second part will also pretty much never happen. March probably uses it better because she cycles through the 3 turn cooldown faster with the advance.
Sleep like the dead will always be a decent stat stick for hunt characters that want crit
@@jereg4662 Well.. okay..? But then that doesn't help you at all, since it's S5 in the video, and obviously the LC is viable. Why would it not ?
feixiao being able to one shot mobs with her FuA will be crept just like Seele's oneshots will skill.
The difference is, Feixiao doesn't care who she hits with her skill and follow-up, they all count as stacks for her ult, Seele however loses a good portion of her dps if she can't take out the mob
Fe Xiao vs Ratio comparison was not included despite promised in pull analysis.
I am currently trapped in the dilemma of E0S0 Fe Xiao and replace Ratio OR E1S1 Topaz and skip Fei Xiao in the 5 star FUA team.
Currently everyone is E0S0 so Ratio doesn’t have guaranteed FUA.
Go for feixiao she's really good and does way more damage than ratio in my personal experience. Just replaced Ratio with feixiao and with no other changes went from 4-5 cycle moc to 0 cycles. Insane stuff.
@@Mads-nb3cu Would vertical investment in Topaz be more suitable given the summon meta we are going into?
@@TheRealLap Definitely replace Ratio with Feixiao, especially if your premium FuA team is currently all e0s0.
id rather invest in topaz fua util than get another dps when i already have a top tier unit in dr ratio but that’s just me.
@@TheRealLapdepends tbh. You have Aventurine? With e0S1 Topaz and him, that’s enough debuffs for Ratio. On the other hand, Feixiao doesn’t NEED debuffs for her personal max damage and she won’t get power crept until at least halfway through the 3.x patches.
She's the best dps in the game for sure. Robin+feixiao is the best duo in the game rn.
Its because feixao gets 3 attacks every turn with Robins ult.
The synergy is insane.
@@Resh-3221u can do that with acheron though its just not newrly as broken and im an acheron simp
@@deanthelemur1716 dw one day we'll get our dedicated acheron harmony / sustain
@@Nova-ey9vgthat's literally just jiaoqiu
No
Mihoyo: “How do we powercreep FUA/Break meta?”
Intern: “Just introduce summons…”
Mihoyo: “Let’s bring in more rows for enemies & also have summons to increase the party size to be over 5 characters (shoutout NUMBYS)”
Nice video 🎉
I don't believe in this "hard to power crept" bs anymore.
Needed this🤣 managed to get robins e1 so now the question is if she’s worth getting over ratio.
For sure, she can use ratios lc very well too if you have it
Hell yeah, Ratio bout to get to Ratio'd by Feixiao, she's insanely better.
Look at the video where aventurine want a harem team...😂
Whether she’s worth it or not is completely up to you and your account, she’s definitely better than ratio but if you already have him it’s a more of a decision
If you have ratio lc or can get her lc, yes otherwise na
Excellente! Another smashing video... Wish you cud have added more of the runs at the end for noobs like me. 😊... Pls pls add the entire video of those runs with runes. Pls
10:14 I think u meant 2.9 million instead of 290 million
Don't worry, 3.5 MoC will have 290 million HP
@@Morkins324where 50 million damage per ult is now the norm
I almost passed on her because i just got sparkle for DHIL and jiaoqiu for archeon so really don't need a new DPS super bad. But between how the game seems like it slowly going back to single target focus/hypercarry meta along with the summon mechanics we'll be getting in Greece (her stacks will proc with every summon action) so her being in FUA team isn't necessary, I decided to pull her. Can already tell im not going to be regretting it.
Of course I'd lose the 50/50 for the current most broken dps in HSR to Yanqing...
I'm sorry, sounds like you won, congrats on the yanKING.
Hey, he's this patch's hero, show some respect to our boy
.."uncontested single target dps..." he forgot about Bootyhilll :(
Sure she might be slightly better at ST, but saying "uncontested" is a huge stretch
@@Badieon About time people understand most big claims like that are a huge stretch because the game is better balanced and nuanced than that. It's just glazing, he does that every time.
@@Badieon ST?
@@tkr3399single target
@@tkr3399 Single Target
That CN math doesn't match any of the other math I've seen on the Topaz/Moze/March calcs
yeah, in the feixiao reddit/discord the guide and calculations have moze being less than 10% worse than topaz. i cannot believe he is actually 20% better than her
@@dom4257 CN is always right just trust it
@@MaineOneV1they were completely wrong on zenless zone zero calcs for zhu yuan best light cones, they didnt even know the difference between combat attack and normal attack boosts
@@MaineOneV1having blind faith is just dumb… never have blind faith
@@dom4257how about march?
Why was Topaz light cone not considered for Feixiao? It has high crit rate, follow-up dmg buff and has crit dmg buff that the team can benefit from
Does the 137 speed tuning on Feixiao with March 7th still apply if I'm not using Aventurine as Sustain?
never thought i'd see another broken dps as acheron. but i think feixiao is even more busted than acheron. I have them both at e0s1. Feixiao is so stupidly busted lmao its so fun
And eventually a DPS is gonna be released that's even more busted than Feixao, that is the life of a gacha DPS
@@SmashTheAdam welp they laggin on powercreeping kafka though. busted dot dps when?
@@SmashTheAdamya in 3.0 it will be summon meta so feixiao as hunt will just fall out anyway
What about speed tuning with Moze? Same as Topaz?
Feixiao seems like a blast to play! 🎉 I love characters that can just keep attacking and make things interesting. 🌪️ It’ll be fun to see how she shakes up team comps too. Do you guys think she’ll change the meta in a big way? 🤔
feel very sorry for people that want to run follow-up team, but does not have adventurine, he is the most needed in the team comp for his shield and follow-up att, me too personally
Lmaooo, I hit 137 speed off of subs, atk boots 3.4K atk, 100.2/110. The cv looks really funny but I know my FUA team gear and lc gives almost 200 crit dmg.
This is also a PSA to fua players, cr is far more valuable than CD.
Ok?
@@NM-kx8ud ah yes thanks for the reminder I forgot the psa
@@michaelyang838 what reminder?
bro, what is your skincare routine?
As expected from arbiter general. Lore accurate general finally.
“Powercreeping her won’t be too easy”
Oh boy. I remember when they said the same thing about Jingliu. They even said the same thing about Acheron. Now everyone considers Feixiao the best DPS. She’ll get powercrept in 3.x. I guarantee you.
HSR always finds a way to powercreep already strong characters.
if we go by history of hsr since she is hunt she gonna get powercrept by destruction who use summon as follow up(new planar set as clue)
She might be the Neuvelette of HSR. He has yet to be power crept in the Genshin Impact for awhile now.
@@tilting_cat3344wouldn’t that benefit her though since it means the summons would have their own actions thus giving her more stacks?
@@BlackZeroEX gonna be sp negative
Actually, DHIL was considered the unit that scaled better into the future. Jingliu got a lot of free stats, but she also scaled poorly because of that + being so reliant on her enhanced form.
hello please add timestamps for your guides
No speed tuning for moze team?
Moze without a doubt is one of the strongest 4*s in the game, but I just can't believe he provides around 20% more team damage than Topaz. I can agree that he gives more personal damage, but his team's total team damage is stronger than Topaz's? Obviously the CN analysis know their stuff so I'm not gonna just say they're wrong, but what about everyone else? I'm seeing guides and calculations from the Feixiao discord/reddit saying Topaz over Moze in the BIS team. The difference between them is generally less than 10% though, which shows how strong Moze is, but they're really saying he's that much better? Why is the consensus so different?
Yo I just used feixio sparkle Clara and loucha and it did very good, Clara did better than my e6 march 7th
March7th 60%cdmg buff is insane
@@saltygamers888 I get it but Clara got me ultimates faster I cleared it a round faster on auto
My Clara is so bad,my March 7th easily does like 400k with enhanced basics lol
Where is the speed tuning for Moze Feixiao team though? :c
I made my first 0 cycle with her it's amazing
I would love to see a Feixiao/Jiaoqiu showcase from someone, ANYONE
She quickly became my favorite unit in hsr. Her playstyle and animations are insanely good, even her idle animations are w rizz, but her character and lore are my favorite by far. Acheron seemed a bit too edgy for my liking imo
I know it's not that deep,but calling her story edgy is insane work. Like did you even read through the dialogue? Did you understand what it was all about? You can like vanilla ice cream without having to shit on chocolate ice cream yk
I sometimes think they googled on the Internet edgy misunderstood swordsman and copied and pasted it on Acheron character sheet. It's that or she is someone's 8th grade self insert from their chunni days. I still cringe at the whole it was two slashes the second one was just faster. That whole sequence was bad ass and u just ruined it by saying the cringest thing u could of said. Feixiao knows she is a bad ass and what does she do. She humble brags. Which is hilarious and her loud, boastful personality u just can't help but fall in love with her character. #MyGeneralcan'tbethisCute lol
No one:
Acheron: Trust me in that monochrome world exists a fleeting red hue
@user-jq2rq3mx1v read all the dialogs, watched all cutscenes, and I still feel like she's edgy. Not just in the plot, but also character design. She's purple w a katana and turns black and red. As you said, it's not that deep friend :)
@ravenwong651 I honestly don't mind dialogue that's exaggeratory and performative such as that, but it's the combination of everything that gets me. Her appearance, the way she speaks, and being an emanator of Nihility and IX. It just reminds me of a 14 year old emo drama/theater kid personally
Can anyone explain why Feixiao needs 137 speed specifically? I missed that point, if it ever was in the video
I was wondering this too. I know that no spd subs w/ spd boots is 137, but if we're talking about atk boots I'm not sure if getting above the 134 breakpoint is necessary?
@@MereleFerele I know that there are sub break points, where you can shave some time (like, 128 speed is enough, if you go for 3 actions in 0th and 1st cycles, instead of two actions in 0th and one in 1st), but I still don't get why it may be 137 specifically for the content
Robin's ultimate does buff Moze.
Thank god, there is many LC subsditutes for her cuz I'm pretty poor in the Hunt LC departement.
Burst
18:31 - Moze's damage dealt in a team being only 15% lower than FEIXIAO is not being talked about enough if that is true... WTF??
Edit: Nvm, i just remembered how ratio's work, its still pretty impressive though as a 4 star dps compared to the top dps in the game
I just did inert salsotto for more fua and ultimate damage, the duran set only gives her what 25% crit damage which even with a 1:2 it still doesn't hit half the time so that 15% bonus ultimate damage would be better imo
Duran gives 25% FuA DMG and 25% overall Crit DMG. It’s clearly better as you should be focusing on reaching 90+ Crit Rate and letting (with premium team) Robin’s talent and A4, Topaz’s E1/S1, Aventurine Ult, and Feixiao’s own A4 to make up for the lower base Crit DMG.
As usuall I recommend to play with 1.5x for normal pokke experience
Why atk boots on march?she will make less stacks for fei
you lost me at requiring a specific other 5* to be a t0 unit
Aiyo MrPokke, you didnt cover the SUPA BREAK Fexiao build and comp.
It’s not great, her toughness breaking scaling disappears the moment target breaks.
I use her with yunli and its insane
is feixao the nuivillete of honaki starbucks insane (shes not)
11:45 Doesnt these damage numbers included her LC ? Is it the same if she runs the herta shop Hunt LC ?
The damage increase from signature lc is ≈20%. And the difference is not even that insane compared to Acheron and her signature lc which is 30% damage increase
The Moze's calculations done one a single target in a game where you never fight a single target are so stupid
Every hunt only fights a single target when you think about it, except for seele. I don't know what you find stupid about it.
@@ch1dd Moze is enourmously advantaged in situations where he doesn't have to reapply his mark. If the target dies before he can do his FuAs you wasted damage and have a significant downtime where the enemy is not debuffed, also until you place another mark he doesn't benefit in any way from the allies' attacks unlike Topaz and March.
Man, I’m bout to Burst
Ambasing
Why the 143-145 speed? Is it some kind of special breakpoint for Feixiao teams?
Pretty sure 143 is the next breakpoint for speed after 135
i´m curious how the rates for moze are in comparison to the other characters. i just got 4 luka´s, 3 asta´s and a xueyi... and ZERO copies of moze... thats kinda messed up...
out of 200ish pulls I only got 1 singular moze. it's ABYSMAL and the amount of lukas will give me nightmares for days.
100 pulls 4 Luka, 1 Asta, 3 Moze.
4 mozes in 200 pulls, but I did get like 8 astas despite having E6 before that and Lukas as well
@ninestar @kokoro212 T________T maybe ill get lucky in the next 80 pulls...................
can a
feixiao
bronya
adventurine
march 7th imaginary team work?
Guys how many traces should I level for Feixiao? 8/10?
10 everything, but if you must leave one at 8 just leave skill. Talent has a damage buff aside from the multiplier, and ult is the main source of damage.
Level talent and ult, skill is optional but nice if you can get it.
@@ch1ddhow can you expect anyone to 10/10/10 traces 😂😏
@@Frou-hsr By Farming. There's a lot of characters that I have maxed Talents....Kinda wish I can refund some cuz I am never using Seele ever.
@@Frou-hsrdps always 10/10/10 unless ur newbie
16:39 Support Daniel? How?
She doesn't need it but she likes it lol
Why 137 speed on Feixiao and not 134 like usual?
Cause her base speed is 112.
Nvm it's just her base speed with speed boots. Can't get lower than 137
Remember when people kept dooming over and over and over and would not shut up about how bad hunt is and that feixiao would be an ez skip because hunt=bad.
This is what you guys get now, you guys asked for this powercreep.
21:44 March just completely ignored 😭
On my channel you can see not only zero cycle 12 floor, but enemies even do zero attack.
7:17 Thanks MrYappe, but arent every hunt char has "stable" damage?
seele with no resurgence = damage drop
boothill with no break/any break resistent content = damage drop
What exactly makes moze stronger than topaz specifically? It’d be odd for a 4-star to just have straight up better multipliers than a limited 5-star, even a 1.x one. Idk anything about moze so what’s up with that?
It depends on your investment on Topaz. If your Topaz is E1S1 she's a direct upgrade especially on Ratio Teams. At E0S1 she's surpassed by E6S1 (Worrisome) Moze but she's better than him at E2. At E0S0, Moze E2 is better. I believe there's a comparison sheet online.
For Ratio specifically it's because of the debuffs. For Feixiao I'm not sure.
he does deal more damage, BUT he is sp negative, harder to manage and needs E6 to be overall better which is already the same as getting a 5*, also his debuff needs to be reapplied and as Pokke said because of the fixed action value he goes practically after everyone. Topaz provides comfortability and the 100% uptime on the debuff
@@tuananhdang7385moze is sp neutral
@@tuananhdang7385 He's sp neutral
Why is March 7th running ATK boots instead of SPD boots? :(
more damage from her FUA/EBA/Ult, speed not that importnat since Feixiao hits frequently to give her the stacks needed for the free turn.
Ok those supports are not E0 supports. There's no way
Yangqing LC is better than stellar sea?? I might use that then
Only at s5
the video answers alot about feixiao's topaz alternatives, but what about aventurine? what can be used instead of him?
whatever works, though gallagher is probably 2nd best cause his action advance helps generate stacks for feixiao
The goat gallagher, lingsha if you'll get her later, march preservation if you have the brains for it and isn't using hunt march, luocha. Rest is rest, just don't use huohuo
Pay attention
@@NM-kx8ud ah, my bad 😅
I didn't have alot of time when I saw this video, so i kinda just skimmed through what i needed to know. I completely missed on the sustain part of the team comps section, but thank you all in the replies for enlightening me anyway, really appreciate it!
18:09 Moze generates a skill point every time he launches a FUA from his talent (I think it's a trace)
yep. once per turn tho
Once per turn is not enough
Yeah but it's only once per turn and he also really wants to spam skill on his turn, so it just ends up making him SP neutral.
He generates it once per turn. So he's basically SP neutral.
So she doesn't need like topaz to be really good?
I'm sorry, Boothill is still king of single target DPS.
Feixiao and Acheron's DPS is so backloaded by their ultimate stacks. Meanwhile, every turn with Boothill I am doing enough damage to wipe an enemy off the screen. The issue at hand isn't total damage, it's the effective damage distribution. It doesn't matter if you can hit 1+mil damage on Feixiao ultimate if you overkill with that damage. Boothill is able to evenly distribute smaller bursts of damage but is then immediately able to swap to his next target when he is finished. Meanwhile, I have to wait for Acheron or Feixiao's stack count to do comparable damage later in the turn cycle.
Getting off damage earlier can make or break a clear, whether it's for a 0 cycle or min clear cycle for newer players.
fei at e0s0 stacks faster and goes more times then a fast boothill, shes better in every aspect
@@TryingjoinaclanNo she is not. Boothill's drawback is that he typically needs some weaker targets to get his 3 stars to show up. On the other hand, unlike Fei Xiao and a lot of other dps, he needs no investment into crit rate or crit damage.
Pros and cons with Boothill vs Fei Xiao.
@@TOTGodofWar investment isnt the convo here lmao
keep in mind fart team is literally just followup team with a little more backloaded damage, but with robin's presence normal fuas can also hit like trucks and eliminate trash mobs, so disregarding investment feixiao does better damage overall in her best team vs boothill.
@@TOTGodofWar Stop coping. Fei better
as auto rail player I feel this :(
Why do you recommend 137 speed insead of 134?
Her base spd is 112 so with just a spd boot she will be at 137 spd
No live translation pog
Is e6 Feixiao eternally OP? I don't wanna stop at e0 and have to cope with every new dps like you guys 😂
well no, e6 any dps won't be eternally OP
E6 firefly, Lunae, Acheron, Feixiao are eternally op because they are a couple times stronger than current top dps at e0-1 that we have right now and if they ever make that not op then 70% of our units we have right know wont be close of clearing anything. So by logic yeah, especially since feixiao is raw crit dps colorless damage
Yo its F A R T
It's FARM for me (Moze instead of Topaz)
Followup are fun teams. 😂
Soooo topaz isnt her core teammate?
I have one issue with this entire video,
I understand adventurine is the best support for her, but mabye showcase a team recommendation or showcase without him,
this video makes it look like i have to have him
It literally said what sustain to use instead of him…
@@NM-kx8udyeah but it didn’t actually showcase how differently teams performs without his FuA
Bronya is better than sparkle for feixiao.
I use her with clara 😅and sushang
nah i pull her becaus ipull topaz and nver use her and the reason i pull her even i didt need becaus topASS have numby
how about lingsa?
Lingsha is a limited break synergistic focused healer only reason to pull her is luxury in break teams and shouldnt be relevant to pull outside of that due to other stronger options.
i don’t care about the current meta i am not pulling fua characters
huohuo sp unfriendliy ofc xD speed her up and she's sp positive dude
E0 huo huo is not sp positive lol. She’s sp neutral tho.
Just no dude. There are much better tools for the job
Someone pls tell me if her LC is worth I'm so tempted to pull for it but it'll take all i have and im not guaranteed
dr. ratios cone is way smarter to invest in. i'm assuming ur not a spender - ratios cone is not only almost as good as feixiaos on her (the difference is minuscule), it's also incredibly versatile. you can put it on moze, march, feixiao and on ratio himself of course. meanwhile feixiaos cone is tailored specifically for her and while the dmg is slightly better (literally only by 1% if you run moze / topaz with ratio cone) it's not versatile at all - no other character wants to use it. tl;dr if you LOVE feixiao you can go for it but it's better to wait for ratios rerun and get his one
If you have ratio LC you can use it instead... all 4 stars LC are bad for her
@@johnnnie Thanks for the articulate explanation it calmed down my gamba nerves a lot
@@chomosuke0720 yw :)
Not for the price you'll have to pay.
inb4 the upgrading traces comment
Context?
@LadyYunalesca watch his I am Disappointed video
You are the upgrading traces comment
@@LadyYunalescain a nutshell, he joined a tournament with another youtuber, and the other guy went into the tournament with underleveled characters (i think they were lvl 75 with lvl 70 light-cones) and traces weren't at max, the winners would get 10k dollars so each of them would have gotten 5k but pokke lost because of the other guy, and the other guy said pokke was at fault because he didn't tell him to max his traces
This is just according to what I read in other comments, I don't know the whole story
10:03 I see boothill hit 1.1m on hoolay with his basic attack WITH a sustain lmfao feixiao shit