Very interested to hear about Stefano. I find it much harder to pinpoint specific things about his style than I do with many other climbers. Alternatively, learning just what makes Toby Roberts so good would be fun (and timely if you get it filmed quickly enough).
PLEASE do a Toby episode!! It’d also be fun to see a deep dive into Toby Segar and get to know how the parkour experience translates to climbing technique
Toby’s mental strength is one of the greatest imo. You’ll see him visibly struggling on a boulder but he’ll somehow push through in the end. Seems like he’s able to use 100% of effort all of the time.
@@nattokami9598 Agreed, he's got more grit than just about anyone. I thought Erin showed excellent mental strength as well, particularly on the lead wall in the finals. Maybe it's something they're training effectively on team GB.
I like the format because it helps educate people like me about different climbing styles, and that can help us to better understand our own strengths and weaknesses. This in turn, I believe, can allow us to train and practice in ways more optimal for our progressions.
It would be interesting to see some more specific climbers, as learning the intricacies of that can give insight into how to get better in niche habilities. Like how Ai Mori climbs as a short climber, how Janja has a very quikc and interesting solutions to problems, always focusing on what she does best or how a crack climber like Pete Whitaker approaches problems due to his way of finding jams and specific patterns that non-crack climbers rarely see
I really appreciate the well-thought-out structure of this video. You explain everything very clearly and quickly, which makes these videos feel like an efficient work-of-art. Keep it up!
Really appreciate this format! Pinpoints several techniques and provides information on how to train for them both on and off the wall. Top quality stuff!
Such a good example about how strength and technique are not opposites, rather they are complimentary. Having enough strength opens up new movements to you, and thus new solutions to problems. Very similar to how finger strength lets you use holds in new ways. Also this series is awesome. Please do more! Sorato Anraku!
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: the bodyweight overhead press 1rm is terrific climbing side quest. It ticks so many of the boxes mentioned in this video, it pairs well with climbing and it’s really really cool.
I'm gonna say I find this format quite interesting. I don't believe i'm "gonna climb like Magnus" after watching it, but I believe the analysis is of value
Doing tricep kickbacks as shown in 1:54 will not adequately train your triceps. If you want to effectively train your triceps, tricep pushdown, skullcrushers, or close-grip bench will do a wonderful job.
What an extraordinary format! The combination of analysis and training suggestions is so good and unique. I'd love to see the best in their speciality: Anna Hazelnut for slabs, Tomoa Narasaki for Parcours Style, Aidan Roberts for his control style, Adam Ondra for using his legs, Janja Garnbret as maybe the most complete athlete, Will Bosi cause he is such a nice person and so strong, Pete for sure, the crack king, there are so many people one can learn from, I feel there's potential for 100+ videos like this ❤.
Love this concept! Would love to see the analysis of how to climb like the Olympic participants as well! There'd be unlimited content haha Toby, Sora, Jakob, Adam, Alberto, Colin, Hamish, Tomoa. The females would also be so interesting as their styles are so different and some are quite short + have different body types. The queen Janja, Brooke, Jessica, Ai, Erin, Oceania, Oriane, Chaehyun, Miho. You could even analyze their bouldering vs lead.
Thanks. Lots of content but not easy to use unfortunately. We really don't like to pull content off other channels without prior permission and the IFSC are unlikely to give us access. Magnus kindly gave us the green light to use his content and we'll stick to athletes that are happy for us to use their personal content.
@@LatticeTraining Thanks for the context. That's unfortunate that getting permissions for footage and such is a barrier, but it's even more amazing that you've come up with such good concepts working with such restrictions!
@@LatticeTraining Erin's recently started her own channel & has burst onto the scene like a meteor this past year. I'd love to see you telling us how and why
This was an interesting format. Found this very useful. Would love to see similar analysis on other world class climbers and how their strengths compare/differ.
In a way I'd be really interested to see an analysis of Janja, how she's able to just be so ridiculously strong and fluent in movement. Another one - Toby Roberts. Obviously Ollie's worked with him so I'm sure he can share extensive insights into his physical training, movement patterns, and other elements such as route reading.
Cool concept! Adam ondra next! About the front lever, since its a lat exercice whats your definition of core strength? Anything between shoulder and hips? Including lats?
Great point, I would call the front lever a pulling exercise. So not strictly core strength. Nevertheless, a great exercise for climbing in roof terrain.
I've found I can use "press moves" on a lot of bouldering and sport route sets in Colorado; Inside and outside. I climb 5.12/5.13 and V9/V10. Shouldery moves cause strain at times (healed from 4mm supraspinatus tear). I've realized I need to focus on shoulder strengthening, and practice general constraint whilst climbing to avoid connective tissue injury. Most importantly, I do my best to listen to connective tissue strain.
On the pogo topic, something you didn't mention that I notice strong climbers like Magnus (and any pro really) doing is an "arm pogo" (for lack of a better word). By "arm pogo" I mean they release the hand they're moving early, letting the hand on that side dangle away from the wall as far as possible, and then they swing towards the next hold from this position to generate extra momentum.
Interesting analysis and role models are great to have, but in the end I just want to be the best myself I can be. Developing your own style of climbing and watching yourself progressing is such a joy.
For sure! Define your own style. I think myself and many others look at these role models for inspiration and will cherry pick stuff the enjoy. I love how Magnus pogos stuff but I prefer to twist and flag my way up stuff.
Tricep kickbacks are a horrible exercise. The force curve is terrible, it's insanely easy to cheat by "throwing" the weight up. Skull crushers are much easier to control and harder to cheat
@@lawsong6663 with weight training it mostly happens unconsciously, with folks who don’t have a lot of lifting experience. They don’t realize they’re cheating.
This is some good insight, I actually have a few climbs at my local gym that I think would benefit from a few of these styles, including the clamping and pogo, I will give them a shot, thanks!
Very entertaining video! Quite obviously useless for us climbers who are not Magnus imo (whatever the level) but super fun to watch! I would definitely enjoy more 💪
Great video format! There's loads of potential good ones to look at. As a fan of slabs I'd definitely like one on Anna H! A side benefit of watching this particular video (Magnus) is that it's made me realise I've got more opportunities than i thought i had. I'm mostly weak AF in the 'typical' climbing muscle groups, and in my fingers (I'm still a novice, and i also have crappy tendons and ligaments because of joint hypermobility). But I *do* have substantial muscle mass and strength in my triceps and delts, and i love pressing moves. I've also got fairly strong legs. I'm thinking i should maybe chuck out my disdain for comp-style boulders and give them more of a look... 🤔 Another request: please consider analysing someone who's really good despite having a neutral or even negative ape index (not sure offhand which elite climbers fit this category). At 5' 7" I'm not especially short or tall, but i have long legs, a short torso, and neutral ape index, and often get scuppered by short *and* tall beta... 🥲
Core strength with regards to the front lever, one should really consider inverted rows first. Could even go so far as a static hold/lock off in that inverted position. I do like the idea of these videos, but I would consider reaching out to a local certified strength and conditioning coach and collab. List exercises in a VB-V5-V10+ progression style per category. They may be able to offer insights that take this information sharing to the next level.
The tricep kickback is a terrible tricep exersice. There is no tension at the bottom and the most tension at the top where we are mechanically disadvantaged. I'd replace it with a dip variation and ad an overhead pressing motion like a pike push-up or any overhead press with weights.
Its actually great exercise with a cable though. Since its one of the few common tricep exercises that also targets the long head. With dumbells sure its sub par.
@@janmarecek8473 Granted, I suspect most climbing gyms won't have a cable machine though. With dumb bells I'd still go for an overhead extension like a French Press or a Skull Crusher/JM Press type movement.
I've always been concerned that building muscle requires eating as surplus of calories... but right now I'm trying to burn some of my excess fat. And I don't think you can do both. Am I off base here?
Tricep kickback is the worst exercise ever invented. No loading on the stretched portion of the muscle. Very weird resistance curve, very hard to progress. Just stick with dips and presses...
The kickback is a perfectly fine exercise for people who are not accustomed to training triceps. It’s more comfortable for many than an overhead extension (best) and more accessible than a dip with fewer other limiting factors than either a dip or a press. Also, isolation exercises tend to play better with vigorous climbing than compounds.
You neglected to mention that Magnus removes his shirt for more power.
🤦 can't believe we missed that one.
@@LatticeTraining was pretty dissapointed ngl :(
😂😂😂😂😂 not happening any time soon
Very interested to hear about Stefano. I find it much harder to pinpoint specific things about his style than I do with many other climbers.
Alternatively, learning just what makes Toby Roberts so good would be fun (and timely if you get it filmed quickly enough).
infinite forearm endurance but def would be nice to have a more detailed explanation
PLEASE do a Toby episode!! It’d also be fun to see a deep dive into Toby Segar and get to know how the parkour experience translates to climbing technique
His training in Japan 😅
Toby’s mental strength is one of the greatest imo. You’ll see him visibly struggling on a boulder but he’ll somehow push through in the end. Seems like he’s able to use 100% of effort all of the time.
@@nattokami9598 Agreed, he's got more grit than just about anyone.
I thought Erin showed excellent mental strength as well, particularly on the lead wall in the finals. Maybe it's something they're training effectively on team GB.
I like the format because it helps educate people like me about different climbing styles, and that can help us to better understand our own strengths and weaknesses. This in turn, I believe, can allow us to train and practice in ways more optimal for our progressions.
It would be interesting to see some more specific climbers, as learning the intricacies of that can give insight into how to get better in niche habilities. Like how Ai Mori climbs as a short climber, how Janja has a very quikc and interesting solutions to problems, always focusing on what she does best or how a crack climber like Pete Whitaker approaches problems due to his way of finding jams and specific patterns that non-crack climbers rarely see
I really appreciate the well-thought-out structure of this video. You explain everything very clearly and quickly, which makes these videos feel like an efficient work-of-art. Keep it up!
Thanks for the high praise!
I like this format and am letting you know that you should do another one :).
Vote for Anna, or Alex Megos maybe.
Really appreciate this format! Pinpoints several techniques and provides information on how to train for them both on and off the wall. Top quality stuff!
Great format! The hive demands more
Such a good example about how strength and technique are not opposites, rather they are complimentary. Having enough strength opens up new movements to you, and thus new solutions to problems. Very similar to how finger strength lets you use holds in new ways.
Also this series is awesome. Please do more! Sorato Anraku!
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: the bodyweight overhead press 1rm is terrific climbing side quest. It ticks so many of the boxes mentioned in this video, it pairs well with climbing and it’s really really cool.
I'm gonna say I find this format quite interesting. I don't believe i'm "gonna climb like Magnus" after watching it, but I believe the analysis is of value
Doing tricep kickbacks as shown in 1:54 will not adequately train your triceps. If you want to effectively train your triceps, tricep pushdown, skullcrushers, or close-grip bench will do a wonderful job.
Love this new series - short and punchy and the analysis of top climbers is really fascinating
What an extraordinary format! The combination of analysis and training suggestions is so good and unique.
I'd love to see the best in their speciality: Anna Hazelnut for slabs, Tomoa Narasaki for Parcours Style, Aidan Roberts for his control style, Adam Ondra for using his legs, Janja Garnbret as maybe the most complete athlete, Will Bosi cause he is such a nice person and so strong, Pete for sure, the crack king, there are so many people one can learn from, I feel there's potential for 100+ videos like this ❤.
Love this concept! Would love to see the analysis of how to climb like the Olympic participants as well! There'd be unlimited content haha
Toby, Sora, Jakob, Adam, Alberto, Colin, Hamish, Tomoa. The females would also be so interesting as their styles are so different and some are quite short + have different body types. The queen Janja, Brooke, Jessica, Ai, Erin, Oceania, Oriane, Chaehyun, Miho. You could even analyze their bouldering vs lead.
Thanks. Lots of content but not easy to use unfortunately. We really don't like to pull content off other channels without prior permission and the IFSC are unlikely to give us access. Magnus kindly gave us the green light to use his content and we'll stick to athletes that are happy for us to use their personal content.
@@LatticeTraining Thanks for the context. That's unfortunate that getting permissions for footage and such is a barrier, but it's even more amazing that you've come up with such good concepts working with such restrictions!
@@LatticeTraining Erin's recently started her own channel & has burst onto the scene like a meteor this past year. I'd love to see you telling us how and why
This was an interesting format. Found this very useful.
Would love to see similar analysis on other world class climbers and how their strengths compare/differ.
In a way I'd be really interested to see an analysis of Janja, how she's able to just be so ridiculously strong and fluent in movement.
Another one - Toby Roberts. Obviously Ollie's worked with him so I'm sure he can share extensive insights into his physical training, movement patterns, and other elements such as route reading.
Listen to their pod!
Aidan Roberts would be another good one. He's become the king of static through recent projects
I believe they've already made several videos regarding his finger strength and mobility which defines his style
Really liking this format guys!! Please do more of these of other famous climbers. 😊👍
That’s quite an insightful breakdown!
Do more of these!! This was a super awesome to explain technique with people we are super familiar with
Cool concept!
Adam ondra next!
About the front lever, since its a lat exercice whats your definition of core strength? Anything between shoulder and hips? Including lats?
Great point, I would call the front lever a pulling exercise. So not strictly core strength. Nevertheless, a great exercise for climbing in roof terrain.
I think he more meant body tension rather than core strength here.
I've found I can use "press moves" on a lot of bouldering and sport route sets in Colorado; Inside and outside. I climb 5.12/5.13 and V9/V10. Shouldery moves cause strain at times (healed from 4mm supraspinatus tear). I've realized I need to focus on shoulder strengthening, and practice general constraint whilst climbing to avoid connective tissue injury. Most importantly, I do my best to listen to connective tissue strain.
Nice. Yes love focused analysis.
On the pogo topic, something you didn't mention that I notice strong climbers like Magnus (and any pro really) doing is an "arm pogo" (for lack of a better word). By "arm pogo" I mean they release the hand they're moving early, letting the hand on that side dangle away from the wall as far as possible, and then they swing towards the next hold from this position to generate extra momentum.
Great format, thanks a lot! Alex Megos would be super interesting
Oh and don't forget Magnus crazy finger strength. He can lift 100kg or so on a 20mm edge… this is nuts but a great lifetime goal
He did a 1 finger pull-up with his middle finger hooked onto Jujimufu’s middle finger from a rooftop!
Interesting analysis and role models are great to have, but in the end I just want to be the best myself I can be. Developing your own style of climbing and watching yourself progressing is such a joy.
For sure! Define your own style. I think myself and many others look at these role models for inspiration and will cherry pick stuff the enjoy. I love how Magnus pogos stuff but I prefer to twist and flag my way up stuff.
Tricep kickbacks are a horrible exercise. The force curve is terrible, it's insanely easy to cheat by "throwing" the weight up. Skull crushers are much easier to control and harder to cheat
Or close-grip bench, or dips. Either way you get amazing tricep work, plus pecs, which is one of the few muscle groups not stressed much by climbing.
You get what you want out of your own training. Why on earth would you consciously cheat if youre trying to improve?
@@lawsong6663 with weight training it mostly happens unconsciously, with folks who don’t have a lot of lifting experience. They don’t realize they’re cheating.
This is some good insight, I actually have a few climbs at my local gym that I think would benefit from a few of these styles, including the clamping and pogo, I will give them a shot, thanks!
Great video , exited for this series
Super video. Such a good format for technique explanations, always good to learn by example. Stefano next please!
Wonderful format, please make more!
Would love to hear what Magnus thinks of this analysis-and if he'd add to the list 😀
Exactly!
Yes! More please!
Can you please do Matilda Söderlund's style?
Hers is so unique and graceful, but absurdly powerful.
Great vídeo, make more pleaseeer
I'll vote for Will Bosi since he mostly does the the kind of climbing I really like as well. But honestly any for this style of video is pretty cool.
Very good format!!
I would be very interested in a Will Bosi focused video
Great video, would love to see more targeted videos like it.
Very entertaining video! Quite obviously useless for us climbers who are not Magnus imo (whatever the level) but super fun to watch! I would definitely enjoy more 💪
a how to climb like anna hazelnut video would be amazing. theres a surprisingly small amount of info on youtube about that style of climbing
Great video format! There's loads of potential good ones to look at. As a fan of slabs I'd definitely like one on Anna H!
A side benefit of watching this particular video (Magnus) is that it's made me realise I've got more opportunities than i thought i had.
I'm mostly weak AF in the 'typical' climbing muscle groups, and in my fingers (I'm still a novice, and i also have crappy tendons and ligaments because of joint hypermobility).
But I *do* have substantial muscle mass and strength in my triceps and delts, and i love pressing moves. I've also got fairly strong legs. I'm thinking i should maybe chuck out my disdain for comp-style boulders and give them more of a look... 🤔
Another request: please consider analysing someone who's really good despite having a neutral or even negative ape index (not sure offhand which elite climbers fit this category).
At 5' 7" I'm not especially short or tall, but i have long legs, a short torso, and neutral ape index, and often get scuppered by short *and* tall beta... 🥲
I liked it do more of these please will bosi next plz
Great series
Thanks for the great video! Could you do one on Kim Jain?
It would be great to see one about will bosi!!!
hi lattice training do you need thumbnail designer?
Core strength with regards to the front lever, one should really consider inverted rows first. Could even go so far as a static hold/lock off in that inverted position.
I do like the idea of these videos, but I would consider reaching out to a local certified strength and conditioning coach and collab. List exercises in a VB-V5-V10+ progression style per category. They may be able to offer insights that take this information sharing to the next level.
Do more of those and analyze the Olympics - with jazz music!
The tricep kickback is a terrible tricep exersice. There is no tension at the bottom and the most tension at the top where we are mechanically disadvantaged. I'd replace it with a dip variation and ad an overhead pressing motion like a pike push-up or any overhead press with weights.
Its actually great exercise with a cable though. Since its one of the few common tricep exercises that also targets the long head. With dumbells sure its sub par.
Yeah it's not great, but very entry level and we wanted a range of options.
@@LatticeTraining yeah thats for sure a valid reason
@@janmarecek8473 Granted, I suspect most climbing gyms won't have a cable machine though. With dumb bells I'd still go for an overhead extension like a French Press or a Skull Crusher/JM Press type movement.
@@LatticeTraining Fairplay.
Cool Format! Please do Dave Graham :)
Loved it very much
Do more!!!
Great video👍🏻
yes very nice video more of this
I've always been concerned that building muscle requires eating as surplus of calories... but right now I'm trying to burn some of my excess fat. And I don't think you can do both. Am I off base here?
Great video! But front level is not actually very core heavy apparently
Yeah true, its a lat dominant movement.
Ghisolfi ❤
Moreeeee
Anna Hazelnut please!
Do Colin Duffy!
I wish I was such a climbing Chad that a training channel would produce a whole video highlighting my awesomeness.
Could you do one of Janja? Pleaseeeeeeee 🥹🥹🥹🥹
So you're saying, to climb like magnus we must BE magnus 🤔
You missed out on his Pinch strength? Compared to his peers that's the grip position that he usually has an advantage with.
summary:
Get good!
Tricep kickback is the worst exercise ever invented. No loading on the stretched portion of the muscle. Very weird resistance curve, very hard to progress. Just stick with dips and presses...
The kickback is a perfectly fine exercise for people who are not accustomed to training triceps. It’s more comfortable for many than an overhead extension (best) and more accessible than a dip with fewer other limiting factors than either a dip or a press. Also, isolation exercises tend to play better with vigorous climbing than compounds.
+1 for Anna
Too pumpi music. Feel like a 5 sec short. A a full video
How to Climb like Magnus Midtbø? You can't.
no don't climb like magnus use your feet he's never been injured 😂
Would love one for Anna, I need to get better at slab
Yes, definitely one for the Queen of Slab.