Nokia Makes Its First Repairable Phone - Nokia G22 Teardown And Repair Assessment

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  • @wtfiswiththosehandles
    @wtfiswiththosehandles Рік тому +840

    I feel like we've done a full circle. This looks almost as repairable as phones from 10-15 years ago before everyone decided that back panel needs to be metal or glass.

    • @s2000.
      @s2000. Рік тому +53

      Exactly what I thought. It reminded me of my old samsungs and sonys that I pulled apart for fun.

    • @MrGeforcerFX
      @MrGeforcerFX Рік тому +43

      all the cheaper android phones are still plastic, and they are just as repairable as this thing for the most part.

    • @kaguraschimizu4609
      @kaguraschimizu4609 Рік тому +32

      @@MrGeforcerFX but that ”Genuine OEM parts” though

    • @opposedscroll7596
      @opposedscroll7596 Рік тому +11

      ​@@MrGeforcerFX Yep this is not much different than any other budget Xiaomi phone internally

    • @GityaLIVEdnb
      @GityaLIVEdnb Рік тому +8

      full on bs. no better than any on the market right now since it needs heat and tools!!!
      its only the officially support to repair but nothing else! software support is basic too

  • @soupdrinker72
    @soupdrinker72 Рік тому +1725

    I hope they release phones like this with higher end specs

    • @LprogressivesANDliberals
      @LprogressivesANDliberals Рік тому +86

      I would switch. I still have a iPhone X but I dislike apples non def or 3rd party repairs so I’m looking for a alternative soon. Using my consumer dollars well

    • @lrc3847
      @lrc3847 Рік тому +28

      That and Dex Mode, it would sell a lot

    • @K_240YT
      @K_240YT Рік тому +35

      Exactly, making low end and middle range phones won't get them anywhere

    • @CL-yp1bs
      @CL-yp1bs Рік тому +51

      Absolutely!!! So tired of these cool phones that can be repaired having crap specs.

    • @sihamhamda47
      @sihamhamda47 Рік тому +28

      Yeah imagine Nokia phone with Snapdragon 8 gen 2 or latest Mediatek Dimensity

  • @centurybug
    @centurybug Рік тому +279

    I really appreciate this effort. More than anything, it shows how anti-repair the rest of the industry has become. Nokia didn't even necessarily do anything with the hardware itself to encourage repairability, they just didn't actively make repair hard or impossible.
    Think of the millions if not hundreds of millions of dollars companies put into development aimed at taking away consumers' ability to repair their own phones.

    • @50z10_patpat
      @50z10_patpat Рік тому +8

      It's really funny because budget samsung phones are more "repairable" than g22. you can also find service orig parts and level 1 repair manual for them, although not as easily. moreover, unlike g22, for samsung phones, along with level 1, you will find level 3 manual that explains how to do more detailed diagnostics of your smartphone. although, like in g22, you will not be able to do it through the soldered protective shields on the motherboard, but at least the motherboard will not be a magic black box.

    • @brendorockz
      @brendorockz Рік тому +2

      Yer i agree they should have taken inspiration from smart phones 10 years ago with removable backs and everything should be plugged in like a desktop.

  • @Rendaime
    @Rendaime Рік тому +175

    4:19 Hugh I would not recommend removing this single pin connector as you did. You can see in the video the actual top of the connector bending; making it more difficult to reconnect later in time. The way I have found best is either use the pointed end of the spudger or needle nose tweezers and apply leverage at the piece of the connector that spans outward toward the cable. Slightly bending this part of the connector allows for easier reconnection later.
    Plus I have found if you find a stubborn connector and apply to much pressure in the way you have shown, it can permanently break the tip of the connector.
    Love the videos man. You make repair videos enjoyable.

    • @Piohm
      @Piohm Рік тому +7

      Good tip. I have had trouble with those round little connectors not staying in place once reattached. 😢 I wished I had known they could bend this easily.

    • @eugyscan
      @eugyscan Рік тому +3

      I saw that too, the method you described facilitates the removal of the connector aswell

    • @Fmsrttm
      @Fmsrttm Рік тому +6

      The little nipple antenna connectors are such a pain

    • @AbRaSkZo
      @AbRaSkZo 7 місяців тому

      I once even broke off the connector from the PCB with that method

  • @john_hunter_
    @john_hunter_ Рік тому +32

    They should be looking at upgradability as well as repairs. If they had a consistent internal layout, they could create upgrade components that boost the physical performance of the phone by simply swapping out the main board.

    • @Kalvinjj
      @Kalvinjj Рік тому +4

      Heck they could make their own production cheaper with that, reduces tooling costs while still providing a wider model range.

  • @user-cb2fo8js9i
    @user-cb2fo8js9i Рік тому +28

    Its a step in the right direction, my s9 plus is almost 5 years old and still going strong.. with a custom rom and the battery replaced it still does what a 2023 flagship would, and has a sd slot..

    • @denist.8058
      @denist.8058 Рік тому +2

      And the headphone jack

    • @xmlthegreat
      @xmlthegreat Рік тому +4

      Yeah I think when I'm that LTT video someone said that the S9 was peak mobile design, this is what they meant. It had everything, every option you could want or use.

    • @recruit7416
      @recruit7416 Рік тому

      ​@rizqanarti got redmi chinese phone, no issues so far, 3 years of owning it, maybe you got unlucky

  • @kirilnikolovski81
    @kirilnikolovski81 Рік тому +411

    This is a great first step in the self repair direction. Sure it's not great but it's a start that only 1 other company does this. The design is good, very basic and simplifies the internals and great that they are distributing the parts through ifixit.
    Well done Hugh, have you had you hands on a farefone yet?

    • @tylern6420
      @tylern6420 Рік тому +3

      the only real companies that have fully repairable things are framework since everything is modular and can be serviced with a screwdriver and their modules (but does it really count since they do laptops?), Nokia with this phone and probably something else

    • @robinsattahip2376
      @robinsattahip2376 Рік тому

      Who is the other company, please? thank you.

    • @kirilnikolovski81
      @kirilnikolovski81 Рік тому +1

      @@robinsattahip2376 Hugh mentioned them in his video. Farefone

    • @thicksy
      @thicksy Рік тому +4

      @@robinsattahip2376 fairphone

    • @lenlowe332
      @lenlowe332 Рік тому +4

      He has a video with the Fairphone 4.

  • @user-bp8yg3ko1r
    @user-bp8yg3ko1r Рік тому +113

    Oh what I would give for a modernized Galaxy S5 with a user removable backplate/battery, SD card slot, audio port and compact size + water resistance...
    It even had an IR blaster... Superb video Hugh!

    • @alee14389
      @alee14389 Рік тому +6

      Ii just got a Galaxy Xcover6 Pro. Awesome phone.

    • @swecreations
      @swecreations Рік тому +4

      Samsung Galaxy XCover 6 Pro and the XCover lineup in general is what you're looking for.

    • @jelle1611
      @jelle1611 Рік тому +2

      Well that's the issue, you can't have a removable backplate whilst also wanting water resistance. That's not how that works haha.

    • @krollpeter
      @krollpeter Рік тому +5

      @@jelle1611 It does not need to be very resistant.

    • @user-bp8yg3ko1r
      @user-bp8yg3ko1r Рік тому +12

      @@jelle1611 You literally have that on the Galaxy S5, Fairphone 4 and the XCover series.

  • @charlesswansonii9319
    @charlesswansonii9319 Рік тому +118

    I currently have a Motorola moto g pure and, honestly, if anything ever happens to it, I think the Nokia G22 will make a great replacement with this kind of repairability. Bonus points for the recyclable friendly packaging and the partnership with iFixit for replacement parts. This has been a strong first showing for this kind of budget phone for me and I hope it leads to more from Nokia in the future. Thanks for your hard work on the video!

    • @SlartiMarvinbartfast
      @SlartiMarvinbartfast Рік тому +2

      I have a two year old Motorola and intend to replace it with a far more repairable phone when the time comes - whether that will be a Fairphone 4, Nokia G22 or other repairable phone remains to be seen, it depends what's available at the time. I do know that it won't be an Apple phone though, Apple's devices are so anti-repair, wasteful, anti-environment and expensive that they'll need to drastically and permanently change their ways to make me even consider one of their products.

    • @scarecrow5848
      @scarecrow5848 Рік тому +1

      @@SlartiMarvinbartfast plus apple keeps removing features and ruining the industry. its seriously awful.

    • @zakofrx
      @zakofrx Рік тому +1

      Shame that they are a Chinese Company /made...

    • @victorkreig6089
      @victorkreig6089 Рік тому +1

      ​@@zakofrxHMD is not a Chinese company of any kind they are Finnish

    • @Enlight_Entertain
      @Enlight_Entertain Рік тому

      dont go with nokia. I came from nokia 8 sirrocco to moto g9 play and still very happy

  • @KsizaBoid
    @KsizaBoid Рік тому +7

    I repair phones for living and I've seen a lot of phones with the same level of repairability.
    The only new thing that Nokia is offering here is that you can buy parts directly from the official distributor, which is good for the customer. But the phone is still rather hard to dis- and reassemble for a person who never did something similar.

  •  Рік тому +7

    Love to still see mostly stock Android without unnecessary bloatware on the new Nokia models. Same for headphone jack.
    And the repairability (or at least letting users buy replacement parts) is another plus.

  • @Boogie_the_cat
    @Boogie_the_cat Рік тому +46

    Thank you for covering this. I had no idea Nokia was doing something like this. It's a step in the right direction, and since no other company is encouraging repair like this, I'm hoping they will continue to offer geniune parts. I know there are still some people that (me included) value sd card slots, headphone jacks, genuine repair parts and easier self repair that doesn't void a warranty.

    • @charlesrodriguez7984
      @charlesrodriguez7984 Рік тому +2

      It certainly helps break up the throwaway culture that modern companies’ smartphones have created.

    • @Hfil66
      @Hfil66 Рік тому

      "no other company is encouraging repair like this," seems to ignore the Fairphone (which to my mind does it better, but at a cost).
      Had you said no other big name company is doing this it might be another matter, but it is incorrect to say no other company is doing this.

    • @iannicolson
      @iannicolson Рік тому

      @@Hfil66 Google Pixel 2 and up are now included in such a program. Apple also has their thing.

  • @babyear5228
    @babyear5228 Рік тому +149

    As somone who repairs and resells phones and computers I'd say it's about as easy to repair as most modern budget phones however unlike most modern budget phones Nokia is encouraging users to have a go at repairing it which I support.

    • @charlesrodriguez7984
      @charlesrodriguez7984 Рік тому +6

      @@perdiddlepanskew8018 now we need companies like apple and Samsung to allow third party repairs and easy access to parts.

    • @babyear5228
      @babyear5228 Рік тому +3

      @@charlesrodriguez7984 yes, here in the UK I can actually buy Samsung original parts brand new from Repair Outlet. And apple needs to stop locking parts to iPhones and making them so difficult to repair.

    • @krollpeter
      @krollpeter Рік тому +2

      I guess not many end-user will dare to open these. But the Nokia parts are relatively reasonably priced, and there are instructions. That makes life of repair shops so much easier and repairs worthwhile.
      Support the local handyman!

    • @victorkreig6089
      @victorkreig6089 Рік тому

      ​@@charlesrodriguez7984Apple just spent hundreds of millions and several years trying to fight right to repair
      They will not

    • @babyear5228
      @babyear5228 Рік тому +1

      @@krollpeter I agree!

  • @MilesProwerTailsFox
    @MilesProwerTailsFox Рік тому +37

    inside info: battery glue degrades almost at the same rate the battery does so it will still be strong enougth to hold it but when the battery is old the glue will be softer and easier to take out the battery, new batteries have a little bit of glue that helps the old glue get stronger again

  • @chrisdown2591
    @chrisdown2591 Рік тому +12

    WOW, Awesome move NOKIA! Hope you push the same approach to your more flagship phones, I will definitely take a look!

    • @SlartiMarvinbartfast
      @SlartiMarvinbartfast Рік тому

      Yup, major Kudos to Nokia for doing this. I hope that this is expanded upon and other manufacturers start to go down this route.

  • @jimhalpert9421
    @jimhalpert9421 Рік тому +10

    This is awesome. Just making the replacement parts available and not locking them down via software binding is such a huge step in the right direction. I almost don't care if the repair itself is easy or not, this is just a question of skill.

    • @user-fs8rn4cb6c
      @user-fs8rn4cb6c Рік тому

      Wouldn't consider "not locking them down" as a "huge step". It's still a common sense and it should remain as one. Only Apple and Samsung are locking down the components so far, other OEMs are cool with it.

    • @50z10_patpat
      @50z10_patpat Рік тому +4

      I didn't saw anything awesome in the video, except for the marketing. typical design and typical solutions that are now in every budget and ultra-budget phone. the fact that Nokia posted a level 1 repair manual and gave to reseller service parts is great, but other manufacturers have this too, although not on a massive scale. What's really interesting is whether Nokia will allow G22 owners to flash their phones themselves without having to download a cracked OST and firmware from indian bloatware sites, as is the case with other models, or whether repairability* will remain a pretty inscription on a recycled cardboard box

  • @wolfb531
    @wolfb531 Рік тому +3

    Hugh The pull tabs are not made to pull up on the battery. They are actually made to be removable from under the battery. If you pull them straight out to the side it should pull the glue out from under the battery, hence releasing the battery.

  • @robinsattahip2376
    @robinsattahip2376 Рік тому +6

    Even if it's simply not made to hinder repairs like Apple it would be an improvement. Great to see someone going that way. My next phone will be a Nokia. Yes, they have not put software in it designed to reject replacement parts. It does not have to be easy, it just has to be possible. People with no electronics experience should not be attempting to repair any modern device, that applies to anything made after the era of vacuum tubes, "No user-serviceable parts inside" is fine. It would be quick work for a technician.

  • @letsrugem
    @letsrugem Рік тому +10

    Finally, this is debut repairable phone from Nokia. Can't wait to see next version of Nokia, gonna get one in hand soon.

  • @schrodingerscat1863
    @schrodingerscat1863 Рік тому +16

    The fact they are not coding parts to the phone, allowing easy replacement from donor devices and OEM replacement parts readily available, is a killer feature in my eyes. This together with an unlockable boot loader it would feel like I actually owned the device rather than just paying to be allowed to used it until the manufacturer says otherwise.

  • @DesertNinja650
    @DesertNinja650 Рік тому +8

    Way to go Nokia! As a current S22 Ultra owner, I am actually considering buying this phone as my every day phone and just use my ultra as a digital camera. I like that a flagship company is providing effort to right to repair.
    I'd like to see upgradeable parts. That would be sweet! (Better cameras, larger unibody for larger battery, motherboard upgrade options for larger storage and faster processors in the same form factor, backwards compatible parts, higher res screens, etc. Nokia has the market share to make this happen. Soon to come, gone are the days of disposable $1k smartphones. The economy won't allow it. Repairability is key, look at the automotive market.

    • @xmlthegreat
      @xmlthegreat Рік тому +1

      Repairability was key, until Apple decided to say "screw the customer!"

    • @ryshellso526
      @ryshellso526 Рік тому

      Look into the pinephone. ;)

    • @jamesbrendan5170
      @jamesbrendan5170 11 місяців тому

      just... don't.

  • @defnotatroll
    @defnotatroll Рік тому +4

    Respect to Nokia for doing this but this phone will not sell enough for the repairability to actually matter. We need a big flagship that follows this philosophy

  • @Mobin92
    @Mobin92 Рік тому +7

    I'm still hoping for a phone where the backplate is just held on with small screws. Looks nice and is easy to remove.

  • @sirgavalot
    @sirgavalot Рік тому +14

    I watch this on my equally (actually being watched more of this video i would say significantly more easily, glue-free) repairable and environmentally friendly Fairphone 4, and I'm kinda disappointed it's not mentioned. Though it's nice another companies getting in on the market. Certainly Nokia aren't going to compete directly with Apple and Samsung on being high-end phone producers, repairability is something those 2 don't compete on

    • @flamestoyershadowkill6400
      @flamestoyershadowkill6400 Рік тому +3

      the problem it is that there is no american distribution channel

    • @sirgavalot
      @sirgavalot Рік тому +1

      @@flamestoyershadowkill6400 after having posted that I kinda remembered the phone came straight from Fairphone in the Netherlands, and that getting one to Oz or the US or wherever might be a bit harder than getting to post-brexit Britain...

  • @Iisakki3000
    @Iisakki3000 Рік тому +5

    Now let's hope they make a repairable flagship.

    • @Knaeckebrotsaege
      @Knaeckebrotsaege Рік тому

      Doesn't even need to be a full-on flagship IMHO, but something better than this bottom-barrel junk would be a good start. You know.. something _desirable_ *and* repairable. Cause this thing sure as hell is _only_ the latter lol

  • @Poorgeniu5
    @Poorgeniu5 Рік тому +183

    Can we give Nokia a bit more applause for keeping their boot-loader unlocked?

    • @divyamthakur
      @divyamthakur Рік тому +39

      nokia does not allow the bootloader to be unlocked. the setting enables the bootloader unlocking tool to unlock the device's bootloader but the actual tool remains with Nokia and isn't supplied to the end consumers unless you're using some shady 3rd party service (many of which are paid btw)

    • @zahedchowdhury0
      @zahedchowdhury0 Рік тому +13

      The bootloader cannot be unlocked on Nokia phones without dodgy software or Nokia internal

    • @Jbrimbelibap
      @Jbrimbelibap Рік тому +9

      ​@@divyamthakur Bruh so not only is the phone trash it's actually even more trash than expected

    • @M1U5T0N3
      @M1U5T0N3 Рік тому +3

      @@Jbrimbelibap You'll never buy a Nokia if You wanna keep You Phone for more than the usual Android/Security Updates... Hugh was just wrong at the End. Repaiarabilty alone is just wort smth if You drop Your Phone like once a Month... And even in this Case, You would end up better with an insurance (Costs, Time, Knowledge of repairs)

    • @Jbrimbelibap
      @Jbrimbelibap Рік тому +5

      @@M1U5T0N3 You'll never buy a nokia if you understand the most basic of specifications

  • @vivekjain9890
    @vivekjain9890 Рік тому +7

    Maybe the battery adhesive degrades with time, so it's easier to replace after use

    • @50z10_patpat
      @50z10_patpat Рік тому

      nope. it remains the same. huge plus - if you do it right it stays in one piece. minus - maybe you'll need to do it with couple phones to get it right. its a bit easier as on video. also after replacing its still adhesive enough to hold new battery so you'll dont need to glue it or something

  • @uabir8338
    @uabir8338 Рік тому +2

    The main concern is the availability of GENUINE/HIGH QUALITY repair parts which they have fixed given priority to.
    This is a clear win for the consumers.
    Personally like FAST phones so this is not for me, wish they would launch a TOP end phone.

  • @samik83
    @samik83 Рік тому +4

    Actually not that bad at all. If you make it super easy to repair, you'll start to compromise on the size of the phone.
    Just getting the back off with out having to use a heat gun is a huge plus.

  • @sigismvnd
    @sigismvnd 11 місяців тому +6

    Warning to anyone thinking about buying this phone. Contrary to what the video says, the bootloader can not be unlocked. Nokia/HMD was just very lazy and kept the flag enabled tricking Android into saying that OEM unlocking is supported. It is not. I have tried. Even with the leaked Unisoc private keys. Nokia/HMD or Unisoc have changed the keys probably. So be warned.

  • @iggysixx
    @iggysixx Рік тому +2

    Color coded screw sizes is actually a good idea (as someone who's repaired quite a few iPhones, among other things).
    Would be great if they color matched the holes they go into.
    As for your critique; it's their first effort.
    Also; "plastic clips are something older low budget smartphones have had for years...":
    . From what I can see in your video, the sides that hold rhe clips are quite a bit more flexible, reducing the chance of breaking anything off... Which is QUITE a difference from these older low budget smartphones

  • @badmanners7652
    @badmanners7652 Рік тому +1

    Nokia bringing back the capital letters in QUALITY. I'd like to see more of this old-school brand and their interesting new ideas for sure!

  • @valkasolidor6727
    @valkasolidor6727 Рік тому +6

    I will definitely give more notice to Nokia phones if they continue on this path, whether I might wish to repair my phone or not.

  • @Alex-jd8if
    @Alex-jd8if Рік тому +14

    wish more companies did this

    • @dneth19
      @dneth19 Рік тому

      yes but not with such hilarious e waste grade specs though

    • @xmlthegreat
      @xmlthegreat Рік тому +1

      ​@@dneth19 what are you talking about

    • @dneth19
      @dneth19 Рік тому

      @@xmlthegreat I'm talking about the specs of this phone. specially the SOC which is unisoc

  • @bapt_andthebasses
    @bapt_andthebasses Рік тому +2

    Who remembers the LG G4 and its awesome single camera and detachable back? Too bad the SoC fried itself. That was my favourite Android phone.

  • @noelomondi4849
    @noelomondi4849 Рік тому +2

    Instead of pulling the pull tabs vertically, pull them horizontal to the phone, the stretch is much more apparent when pulling it horizontally, this has worked for me on a couple of phones

  • @zumuvtuber
    @zumuvtuber Рік тому +14

    It's a good start, but it definitely leaves a lot to be desired. Like others have commented, smartphones used to be even more repairable than this. I do hope Nokia (and others) not only continue, but also improve their efforts in making more repairable phones.

    • @Knaeckebrotsaege
      @Knaeckebrotsaege Рік тому +1

      I'm still waiting for the day when manufacturers will present us with phones that are _desirable_ *and* repairable. Cause this abomination sure as hell is _only_ the latter with its junk specs (720p screen, noname SoC, useless camera, shared slots, no compass, etc.)

    • @victorkreig6089
      @victorkreig6089 Рік тому

      You're leaving out the fact that they are doing this in the modern industry
      Thanks to China getting any of these features is a nightmare in itself yet they got so many of them.
      It is not profitable for most manufacturers so they won't do it, Nokia will be alone in this endeavor no matter how many Chinese bots try to sing the praises of the most destructive phone companies the industry has ever had to endure

  • @ReadTheBible8
    @ReadTheBible8 Рік тому +2

    Thank you sir for an interesting UA-cam channel. I’m really getting bored with other channels explaining iOS betas and fortune tellers predicting iPhone 15 specs. Keep up the good work. Thanks.

  • @fusionsniping3741
    @fusionsniping3741 Рік тому +1

    Honestly a decent concept, with some improvement over time, a simple but useful phone experience, with specs for standard phone use, nothing overly powerful that you don't need as the average user.

  • @3m4il
    @3m4il 10 місяців тому +2

    10/10 to Nokia for caring and making a difference. And 10/10 to Hugh for his endless work bringing issues to light.

  • @TheUltimateRecycler
    @TheUltimateRecycler Рік тому +6

    I am pleased companies are at least trying to reverse the trend and allow DIY repairs! That's a good start! Thanks Hugh 😊

    • @charlesrodriguez7984
      @charlesrodriguez7984 Рік тому +2

      Yes R2R is a must. I’m in full support of it.

    • @jamesbrendan5170
      @jamesbrendan5170 Рік тому +1

      Nah, they're just taking advantage of us. HMD (the company that makes Nokia phones for Nokia) and to a lesser extent, Nokia, are trashy companies that go to EXTREME lengths just to keep their phones' bootloaders locked. I actually even asked them to unlock my phone's bootloader (which is the Nokia X10), but they kept on using the "security" and "stability" excuses.

  • @ragnnohab
    @ragnnohab Рік тому +4

    Needing tools just to remove the back of a phone should disqualify it from any "repairable" claims. We had back plates you could remove with a fingernail not even 10 years ago, this reeks of someone telling Nokia to make a phone user "serviceable" while they kick and scream every step of the way.

  • @fleetcore5516
    @fleetcore5516 Рік тому +1

    Good on them, they could take some pointers from LG's V20, like the removable back panel for easy battery access. And use the pads and pins method for how the battery connects, that would eliminate the need for glue.

  • @amirulhakim268
    @amirulhakim268 Рік тому

    2:15 dont you get butterfly stomach seeing the white background Nokia Battery, felt like im in my teen years again haha

  • @knockeddownanotch
    @knockeddownanotch Рік тому +9

    for some reason i wish there was a camera review.
    that's the main thing people want aside from 'fast enough' and 'enough space': whether the camera photo & video quality is any good. combined with its repairability, that would be enough to evaluate.

    • @ZX3000GT1
      @ZX3000GT1 Рік тому +4

      It's a phone, not a camera

    • @charlstonrequiez4626
      @charlstonrequiez4626 Рік тому +1

      It's using a Samsung ISO Cell sensor, meaning it could take decent images and videos, but the video recording is only limited to 1080p 30fps.

    • @knockeddownanotch
      @knockeddownanotch Рік тому +1

      @@ZX3000GT1 "the best camera is the one you have with you."

    • @ZX3000GT1
      @ZX3000GT1 Рік тому

      @@knockeddownanotch Well, it's still funny that you buy a smart *phone* and care more about camera lol

    • @knockeddownanotch
      @knockeddownanotch Рік тому

      @@ZX3000GT1 not at all. but if all the phones phone (even the dumb ones), then one asks, "what else does this phone do?"

  • @killerwebz
    @killerwebz Рік тому +6

    Good start Nokia, you might be getting some of your old customers back!! I use to love my Nokias. I wonder if they will bring back the snake game ?!?!😜🤣😂🤣

  • @edwardfletcher7790
    @edwardfletcher7790 Рік тому +2

    This is a good return to repairability, modern phones are a NIGHTMARE....

  • @_Devil
    @_Devil Рік тому +1

    Let's hope Nokia and be the trendsetters for the Era of Reparability. We need more companies to make their phones like this!

  • @shogun2215
    @shogun2215 11 місяців тому +6

    This is not a repairable phone designed by engineers, this is a sort of repairable phone where the marketing team decided they needed repairablity. There's so many braindead design choices here.

  • @dash8brj
    @dash8brj Рік тому +5

    Well done nokia. I agree a slide off back panel and less glue on the battery would be ideal, but at leat they are offering spare parts and no software locks although you weren't able to test this due to not having a second handset to swap parts with. Hint Hint Apple :P

    • @xmlthegreat
      @xmlthegreat Рік тому +1

      There are no real software locks on other Android phones either, unlock bootloader is a standard option in every android device in the developer options.

  • @NeonNightmares
    @NeonNightmares Рік тому +1

    I really envy Nokia for going this way. With these insane flagship phones that come out every year and nobody really needs this feels like the way to go.

  • @angryzombie8088
    @angryzombie8088 Рік тому

    Nokia was my first phone & this move in this age is something that deserved respect.

  • @ReadTheBible8
    @ReadTheBible8 Рік тому +4

    Just wondering if the screen,camera etc… is paired to the motherboard. Can you interchange parts from another phone being the same model ?

  • @Green_House
    @Green_House Рік тому +10

    Looks like a nice basic phone that I would buy (and dare I say, all most people really need). Great video! You do a good job and I always look forward to your informative videos on Saturday. 🙂

  • @haruyanto8085
    @haruyanto8085 Рік тому

    Seeing this, is like seeing an old friend from high school who was the popular kid in class but then fell off near senior class but picking themselves up again in university.

  • @woutdezeeuw1604
    @woutdezeeuw1604 Рік тому

    What grinds my gears is that hardware is considered obsolete/written off after 3 years while still working absolutely fine. My iPhone SE 2016 model still works perfectly fine 7 years later in 2023, after putting in a new battery last year.

  • @mokisan
    @mokisan Рік тому +4

    Also it has fm radio. Life saving for regions like japan.

    • @tylern6420
      @tylern6420 Рік тому +1

      Because of the jingle of doom?

    • @LabArlyn
      @LabArlyn Рік тому +1

      I once bought an ex japanese flagship phone, but I didn't see there was radio feature on it.

    • @tylern6420
      @tylern6420 Рік тому +1

      The Jingle of doom is obviously the japanese earthquake warning system
      It starts off with an otherwise innocuous jingle but then news channels will cut to outside and a map and then everything will start shaking and everything will be alarmingly alarmed because Japan is more prone to earthquakes than usual

  • @jeremyoboe
    @jeremyoboe Рік тому +2

    Wouldn't it be awesome if a phone maker made a flagship phone with a removable back/battery with a headphone jack and an SD card slot, or at least 1TB of storage.

    • @Farquad76.547
      @Farquad76.547 Рік тому

      1gb isn’t enough for me

    • @doru10922
      @doru10922 Рік тому +1

      ​@@Farquad76.547 I think he wanted to say a higher number

    • @jeremyoboe
      @jeremyoboe Рік тому +1

      Oops! Meant 1TB 🤣

  • @sagitta98
    @sagitta98 Рік тому +1

    I wish Nokia success with this take. I also hope one day they could revive N-Gage to compete on current gaming phone market.

  • @olafcoleman9438
    @olafcoleman9438 Рік тому +1

    This just pushed Nokia from top five to number 1. This is HUGE!!!

  • @applerepair1138
    @applerepair1138 Рік тому +3

    Do you have any plans on reviewing the framework laptop? It’s similar to this in many ways. I’d love to see your opinion on it

  • @MrAceyJay
    @MrAceyJay Рік тому +13

    I've recently given up on Nokia as their software support is nothing like what they claim. Delayed or just plain missing monthly updates, their Android 13 releases were incredibly buggy taking far too long to fix basic usability issues which should have been identified and resolved during their beta programs. And I'd be surprised if the bootloader is actually unlockable. Just because the option is there in developer options doesn't mean the bootloader can be unlocked. Nokia has removed bootloader unlock support from their bootloader for several years now.

    • @victorkreig6089
      @victorkreig6089 Рік тому +3

      Uh, you don't get to complain about removal of bootloader while sitting there and WANTING android 13
      Their android one program works great, you throw a launcher on it and go anyone complaining does not use their phones properly and have no right to complain

    • @MrAceyJay
      @MrAceyJay Рік тому

      @@victorkreig6089 I don't recall saying I wanted Android 13. What I want is when a manufacturer promises monthly security updates they keep their promise. Too many members of the Android One program are not living up to their obligations.
      As a user and supporter of Nova Launcher for 10 years who has dabbled with rooting and even rolling my own custom ROM in my android history I am intrigued how I am not using my phone properly?

    • @victorkreig6089
      @victorkreig6089 Рік тому +1

      @@MrAceyJay the security updates you worry about protect things you shouldn't have on your phone to begin with, banking or personal information in general are a no brainer.

    • @MrAceyJay
      @MrAceyJay Рік тому

      @@victorkreig6089 Again you misunderstand me. I believe in holding corporations to the promises they make. If they say they will release monthly security updates then they should be held to that. If they are unable to achieve that they should not make those statements. In doing so they are lying to their customers. I respect and reward honesty. When a company consistently fails to deliver on their promises and offers no explanation then I will take my business elsewhere.

    • @mardus_ee
      @mardus_ee Рік тому

      ​@@MrAceyJay With Android, the updates are dependent not on the manufacturer, but the operator, who has the final word.
      The manufacturer may create a ready-to-release update, but the operator calls the shots.

  • @Shubhamabrahamajj76
    @Shubhamabrahamajj76 Рік тому +1

    Nokia could really use this tag line. The best durable and repairable smartphone. And make a grand come back from the dead.

  • @Primus_075
    @Primus_075 Рік тому +1

    My Last phone was a Nokia and they have been on a good path lately. If only they started matching the price to performance of the competition in the budget to Mid range They'll be huge success

  • @walpoleandworcester
    @walpoleandworcester Рік тому +5

    Pretty decent looking phone and repairable too. I hope to see more stuff like this but higher end.

  • @technoman9000
    @technoman9000 Рік тому +6

    Wow, it even has a headphone jack. Impressive!

    • @yaboiavery5986
      @yaboiavery5986 Рік тому +1

      It's nice seeing a company recognize us as a market haha

    • @charlesrodriguez7984
      @charlesrodriguez7984 Рік тому +2

      @@yaboiavery5986 I hate that everyone followed apple and removed ports and sd card slot from phones.

    • @yaboiavery5986
      @yaboiavery5986 Рік тому +1

      @@charlesrodriguez7984 same here man

    • @MLX1401
      @MLX1401 Рік тому

      All Nokia phones come with a headphone jack and yes, I like my old headphones too 😄

  • @StuTubed
    @StuTubed Рік тому +2

    The clips on the rear panel are, in my eyes, a good compromise between easy to remove when you need to, without being so easy that you end up fiddling with it like I would tend to do on the battery covers for my remotes etc. Still don't understand why manufacturers insist on using strong adhesive for their batteries though. There's just no need for it. For the fact that it has a headphone jack and an unlocked bootloader alone, I would 100% have picked this phone if I hadn't already committed to a 24 month contract with my Pixel 7.

  • @worldcitizenoss
    @worldcitizenoss Рік тому

    At last they offer the option to unlock the bootloader.
    My Nokia 3.1 plus did get updates for about three years. No repair needed. Is now a potential insecure device.
    With a potential longer life of the Nokia G22, via alternative OSes. It is very helpful that parts are available.

  • @yjk_ch
    @yjk_ch Рік тому +5

    I would've really loved if back panel just comes off like old phones(before Galaxy S6), but even this one is still million times better than glued ones.
    Sometimes I miss the days when you could just remove battery cover and unscrew to get to internals(and you don't have to mess with glued lithium battery).

  • @supaschwamal
    @supaschwamal Рік тому +3

    Why the plastic clpis? Why not just use screws if it's intended to be opened?

    • @idr121
      @idr121 9 місяців тому

      Mine was so tight it tore the bits into half lmao

  • @twinsen04
    @twinsen04 Рік тому

    One thing I hope both consumers and manufacturers understand is that right to repair should be about repair shops and regular professionals being able to repair your phone. While it's nice to be able to fix your own phone very few people are interested, have the know-how or the time and patience. If you want your screen replaced, you go to a corner repair shop, "like in the good old days", and they could do the job in minutes for a very small price.
    For lower end phones it means making genuine parts available and making the phone easy to get into non-destructively, for higher end phones and devices it also means providing schematics.

  • @ibazur
    @ibazur Рік тому +2

    7:20 I would not be sure about that, fact that android toggle with 'bootloader unlock' exist, does not necessarily mean that in fact bootloader is unlockable, looking at recent released models (Nokia 8.3, G50, X10, X20) none of these are unlockable with official tools. During the unlock procedure via fastboot, besides doing the usual 'fastboot flashing unlock' (previously "fastboot oem unlock" you have additionaly flash phone with binary that matches the SN/IMEI of the phone that's being unlocked... which can be provided only by HMD.

  • @petemarfatia8725
    @petemarfatia8725 Рік тому +15

    Thanks Hugh, really enjoying your content. Hey would you consider doing an episode where you rank the top 5 most user repairable phones please? It's a significant criteria in consideration of purchase for some of us.

  • @roerae9423
    @roerae9423 Рік тому +4

    I remember the time when phones are so easy to disassemble. You just need your hands. As tech getting more advanced, the more complicated they become.

  • @mightyskull
    @mightyskull Рік тому

    Ah, Sunday morning makes me look towards sunny Australia & Hugh Jeffreys' videos

  • @louisax4058
    @louisax4058 Рік тому +1

    Accessibility to oem parts for average people is huge, one of the reasons i haven't replaced my Samsung batteries is that i can't find OEM ones.

  • @De4dSp0t
    @De4dSp0t Рік тому +4

    Honestly if they make a 90-120hz display and mid/mid-high specs and wireless charging, I'll gladly purchase a phone like this.

  • @rickgrimes931
    @rickgrimes931 Рік тому +4

    I think this is a great start, but it only is half repairable. I hope that future versions give us some options to put our own image on it like Graphene or Lineage. That would make it truly worth while.

    • @sanchayanghosh7434
      @sanchayanghosh7434 Рік тому +1

      The bootloader is unlockable which usually means you get support for custom bootloaders and you can put your own rom in it

  • @Sceme1991
    @Sceme1991 Рік тому +2

    Could you do a video on the Samsung XCover 6 Pro? It's one of the rare modern devices with removable battery and it's supposed to be somewhat easy to repair aswell.

  • @FractalPrism.
    @FractalPrism. Рік тому

    back in 2002 nokia had its super popular small phones, replacing the battery took less than 10 seconds total:
    open panel, take out battery, put in new battery, close panel
    done

  • @hilmyakatsuki1665
    @hilmyakatsuki1665 Рік тому +4

    Android versions are important. Sometimes some privacy/security features are added to newer version of android. Also, android 12 has a lot of bugs that were fixed with android 12L and 13. Android 14 will have better back gesture with predictive back gesture. Also, sometimes older android versions may don't get proper security fixes or limited fixes with no proper alternative work around that impacted features as those are rewritten and added to newest android versions

  • @9an13l
    @9an13l Рік тому +4

    Could corporations circumvent repairabillity by bottlenecking spare part production? I have this cynical gut feeling that the PR departments will use "plausible deniability" as say: your phone is fully repairable, too bad we didn't allow for enough spare part production or something along those lines

  • @younissumaling8744
    @younissumaling8744 Рік тому +1

    Nokia been watching hugh’s videos alright

  • @hehe42069-k
    @hehe42069-k Рік тому

    i let out an audible "oh come on" when the plastic clips came into the picture lol.
    good start for a repairable phone but there's better ways of going about this im sure.

  • @KristianYordanov
    @KristianYordanov Рік тому

    The Nokia manager to his team: Guys, we all know that we are not capable of coming up with something interesting and innovative, so we can make the most simple and easy to repair phone. Genius sometimes lies in the simple things.😅

  • @MirelRC
    @MirelRC Рік тому

    That's what I like. It is a really good example of how to make a decent repairable smartphone.

  • @imNickolo
    @imNickolo Рік тому

    Removable batteries may made a comeback in years time ❤❤❤ I miss old time when you can just replace the battery when it’s old or have short battery life.

  • @banksiasong
    @banksiasong Рік тому

    Apple and Samsung have to go 'Back to the Future', upscaling repairable old favourites without them having to make a coffee.

  • @yourtags4876
    @yourtags4876 Рік тому

    aw man is nokia realli making a comeback with this phone? high end phone with removeable battery, sdcard, headphone jack,, and 66watt charger is a dream phone

  • @srivatsarupadhya6116
    @srivatsarupadhya6116 Рік тому +2

    I think the Moto xt2025 had a nice design. It had a removable battery just like the ones in the old Nokia phones.

  • @vikrantmore8174
    @vikrantmore8174 Рік тому +1

    I'm a die hard Nokia fan. I own Nokia Asha 502, Nokia 3, Nokia G20 and Nokia 8 Sirocco.
    My only complaint is software repairability.

  • @highpriestofseti
    @highpriestofseti 8 місяців тому

    tip, the green adhesive sticker you don't need to losen, it's used to lift up the battery.

  • @gaius_enceladus
    @gaius_enceladus Рік тому

    This is *great* to see!
    Good on you, Nokia - you're on the right path with this!

    • @jamesbrendan5170
      @jamesbrendan5170 Рік тому

      Maybe for repairability, NOT so much for custom firmware/software to extend the device's support, because its bootloader is awfully locked down by its manufacturer, HMD (who uses the Nokia branding.) If you want to unlock it, you'll have to go through very sketchy software that will even ask you to pay them to unlock its bootloader.

  • @mermaidinamanhole5796
    @mermaidinamanhole5796 Рік тому

    Somehow one if not the first step towards phones with easy replaceable parts. In the future I hope phones will be like PCs wherein specs and parts can be upgraded at the owners discretion, easily. This will break the cycle of practice of those top industry companies.

  • @rahul_2321
    @rahul_2321 Рік тому +1

    Now we need a phone that's as repairable with flagship performance

  • @enzoruberto
    @enzoruberto Рік тому

    This phone is the new standard for repairability on the business side, now we need one that is also repairable in the literally meaning of the word

  • @lejoshmont2093
    @lejoshmont2093 4 місяці тому

    I would certainly consider this device when shopping in a budget category. If it is priced similarly to phones with other specs I think it is a win.

  • @stompchomper6411
    @stompchomper6411 Рік тому +2

    Have you had a look at the xcover6 pro? I'm in Australia and I found one at a local Samsung shop. It's an odd phone, easy to disassemble and repair, but Samsung Australia will absolutely not help you to do so.
    No parts, no manuals, you have to use their repair service if you want legitimate parts. I asked for a spare battery (the whole point of this phone) and the poor idiot in the Samsung shop had to fill out a repair order form, and I had to wait two weeks for the battery to come into the country, arrive at their repair partner and then posted to the Samsung shop in question.

  • @urbexandbrokenthings4806
    @urbexandbrokenthings4806 Рік тому

    i am sold!!!! i want to thank them for going in the right direction

  • @Techsperts_kenya
    @Techsperts_kenya Рік тому

    I believe the stickers on screws are not liquid indicators, they are warranty stickers and since the phone has warranty after self repair, I don't see the need of having them. The liquid indicators are on the sub-board and motherboard have a square shape.