Turandot Final Scene (Jonas Kaufmann and Asmik Grigorian)

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  • Jonas Kaufmann (Calaf) and Asmik Grigorian (Turandot) perform in Claus Guth's production of Turandot at the Wiener Staatsoper, conducted by Marco Armiliato.
    December 2023
    Filmed by ORF
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  • @haraldgeiger5936
    @haraldgeiger5936 Місяць тому +9

    Asmik is a incredible!

  • @eugeniocattaneo2555
    @eugeniocattaneo2555 3 місяці тому +16

    Ascoltiamo con gli occhi chiusi...

  • @natalijaargenta959
    @natalijaargenta959 3 місяці тому +18

    I saw Asmik Grigorian sing the role in Palermo where they set the opera in the space age.....it was truly hideous staging except for her magnificent performance. This set is equally grotesque in a different way. I hate these modern avant-garde directors ruining the beauty by their art gallery staging. I want to see epic sets as well as hear the singers. Such a tragedy.

    • @haraldgeiger5936
      @haraldgeiger5936 Місяць тому +2

      Could not agree more.

    • @pitrescatorce16
      @pitrescatorce16 27 днів тому +1

      Lots of us are the same opinion.

    • @paoladatodi8626
      @paoladatodi8626 21 день тому

      @@pitrescatorce16 grottesco per esempio con quei pupazzi, ma la recitazione, la regia mimica mi pare efficace. E'in chiave psicanalitica, Vienna la patria di Freud...i gesti di lei sono quelli di chi pian piano si libera dall'inibizione. Magari l'ultimissima scena non convince: hanno fretta, più lei (una volta disinibita...) che lui di ehm ehm..., senza tante cerimonie? o addirittura rinunciano al potere e vanno a vivere da persone comuni (ciò che darebbe luogo a nuovi problemi di Stato...)?

    • @michaelacuna7252
      @michaelacuna7252 11 днів тому

      I agree but I saw Netbreko at the Statsoper lin a space production. She was fine but her costumes worked against her. Dumb.

    • @user-vu3qv1wq7q
      @user-vu3qv1wq7q 4 дні тому

      I went to the Staatsoper last night & found the production convincing & Grigorian was magnificent - the audience was delighted.

  • @aliciasarramida
    @aliciasarramida 4 місяці тому +20

    Wonderful!!! thank you for sharing ♥

  • @user-gl3zk1dd3z
    @user-gl3zk1dd3z 2 місяці тому +7

    Thank you very much for sharing. I saw this twice at our beloved Staatsoper. She knocked it out of the park, if you like her. Yes, the staging and his form, but I really enjoyed it. And nice to see here. Thank you again.

  • @tovehansen6613
    @tovehansen6613 3 дні тому

    THATS A GREAT SCENE FRom TURANDOT SI WUDERFULL TENOR VOICE WOW ❤🙏🏻regard from DANMARK 🇩🇰

  • @etienneprinsloo6799
    @etienneprinsloo6799 4 місяці тому +14

    We were there, it was fantastic, enjoyed every second of the performance.

  • @09lohengrin
    @09lohengrin 4 місяці тому +13

    Impressive!

  • @carinfoce9641
    @carinfoce9641 4 місяці тому +8

    Most enjoyable! Thanks!

  • @Dylonely42
    @Dylonely42 15 днів тому

    Astonishing duet !

  • @rosy3385
    @rosy3385 4 місяці тому +18

    Les voix sont belles évidemment mais quelle mise en scène minable !!! ça ne fait pas rêver une Turandot comme celle-ci dans une telle mise en scène !

    • @Culture_maven
      @Culture_maven 4 місяці тому +5

      I was dubious and saw it live and it worked. Whole thing was fabulous.

    • @PascalBrissaud
      @PascalBrissaud 13 днів тому

      Turandot n’a rien qui doive faire “rêver”. Cette mise en scène, d’une rare profondeur psychologique, est aussi intelligente que sensible et cohérente.

  • @ilyeserzsebet2993
    @ilyeserzsebet2993 4 місяці тому +8

    Egyszerűen gyönyörű! Megható! Köszönöm!

  • @user-ec2wi8qd3s
    @user-ec2wi8qd3s Місяць тому +6

    I do not agree. Jonas is still one of the best. He has some better days. Nothing to do with his age...he has health problems and had to cancel many concerts...

    • @evakiseleva8570
      @evakiseleva8570 Місяць тому

      !!!

    • @evakiseleva8570
      @evakiseleva8570 Місяць тому +2

      Thank you for this opinion! Totally agree! The is one of the most fantastic timbres ever and tecnically very equipped but you need to catch him in his healthy days

  • @SilfredoSerrano
    @SilfredoSerrano 4 місяці тому +16

    So, this is the original Alfano ending before it was sliced up.

    • @Yves_Ka
      @Yves_Ka 4 місяці тому +1

      yes - however there are small omissions- At the end Turandot and Calaf should sing "Ertenita". There is a complete version here on YT: ua-cam.com/video/Q09_thEg6AA/v-deo.htmlsi=tii9gjlD_uPNyGQ8

    • @gonzalocuadra8657
      @gonzalocuadra8657 4 місяці тому +1

      No, this is not the final escene by Alfano.

    • @Yves_Ka
      @Yves_Ka 4 місяці тому

      @@gonzalocuadra8657 OK Wiseguy - so who do you think wrote the music???

    • @oscarjupither2294
      @oscarjupither2294 3 місяці тому +2

      @@gonzalocuadra8657 Yes, it is the one and only original Alfano ending!

  • @filosoforvgsapereaude5020
    @filosoforvgsapereaude5020 Місяць тому +2

    Esta ópera de Puccini pudo ser la mejor pero no la terminó. Gran obra

  • @alessandrolombardi5339
    @alessandrolombardi5339 3 місяці тому +6

    ... and finally, after 100 years, the last enigma of Turandot has been solved ... finally well done!😅

    • @DucDeE
      @DucDeE 3 місяці тому

      Do you mean the riddle of this cryptic production? Please tell me because I just can't solve it 😅

  • @SilfredoSerrano
    @SilfredoSerrano 4 місяці тому +5

    Wait, which version of the finale is this? This doesn't sound like the standard. She's singing different notes...

    • @Yves_Ka
      @Yves_Ka 4 місяці тому +9

      This is the original Alfano ending and not the Toscaninni edited version you most pobably know

    • @furrybear57
      @furrybear57 3 місяці тому

      @@Yves_Ka Call them Alfano I and Alfano II.....and I'll keep Alfano II

  • @XPRT10R
    @XPRT10R 4 місяці тому +20

    It's quite impressive the way he manages to sound so throaty and so nasal at the same time.

    • @tg92277
      @tg92277 4 місяці тому

      Both qualities fall under the same heading of "hardness", as Shakespeare would put it. It's pretty common to hear one accompanied by the other

    • @jefolson6989
      @jefolson6989 Місяць тому

      Haha, he could do with some forward placement, mask vibrations, whatever to brighten his voice and produce squillo. It seems to me his technique would be damaging and unsustainable. Muscular and confined to the mechanism plus some manufactured chest resonance. I have to commend him. Singing that way would quickly make hamburger out of most tenors.

  • @Olgaalwina
    @Olgaalwina 4 місяці тому +6

    einfach enorme ....!

  • @LubovKaretnikova
    @LubovKaretnikova 2 місяці тому +3

    What a wonder!🎉❤ bravi!!!

  • @brunopicaude3092
    @brunopicaude3092 4 місяці тому +37

    Encore une scénographie qui va s'ajouter à la liste des horreurs qui ne cesse plus de s'allonger.

    • @marioarkus6930
      @marioarkus6930 4 місяці тому +5

      La scénographie et toute la conception scénique.

    • @AndreEssen
      @AndreEssen 3 місяці тому

      @@marioarkus6930 ich kann noch die Inszenierung von Kosky in Amsterdam hinzufügen, wo ich mich wirklich geärgter habe, soviel Geld ausgegeben zu haben. Die Komplette Bühne war nur nach vorne nicht abgeschlossen, dementsprechend laut war es bei den Chören!
      Je peux aussi ajouter la production de Kosky à Amsterdam, où j'étais vraiment ennuyé d'avoir dépensé autant d'argent. La scène entière n'était pas fermée au public, donc les chœurs étaient bruyants !

  • @AnaLuiza-rl9ee
    @AnaLuiza-rl9ee 2 дні тому

    Público é igrato ao criticar Jonas..
    Ele já nos deu muito de si nos palcos...sem ele a ópera atual não tem sentido...

  • @karilamminpaa8987
    @karilamminpaa8987 4 місяці тому +8

    Unique in every way . Gratitudine !

  • @sumiokuge
    @sumiokuge 2 місяці тому

    More dramatic, less operatic. I don't know whether I am excited at it or I am enjoying it, though I am satisfied. This stage may be something similar to the New Bayreuth of 1950s.

  • @vitanaumaviciene3175
    @vitanaumaviciene3175 25 днів тому

    Labai nedėkinga yra Turandot bet kokiai solistei. Sunki tokia neaiškios pikčiurnos rolė, o ir partitūra tik balso drąskymas. Asmik atliko nuostabiai ir tarsi pateisino Turandot tokį šaltumą ir piktumą.
    Gaila, bet pasidžiaugti operos vizualu niekaip nepavyko.

  • @robertvandertoorn3306
    @robertvandertoorn3306 4 місяці тому +3

    Enczenierung sieht aus ob man in Nord Korea ist

  • @federicofielitz7673
    @federicofielitz7673 4 місяці тому +5

    No conocía a Asmik Grigorian. Me encantó el el rol de Turandot y Jonas también.

  • @bodiloto
    @bodiloto 2 місяці тому +5

    Due voci poco adatte a questo repertorio, purtroppo.
    il vecchio

  • @fauredaniel57
    @fauredaniel57 2 місяці тому +1

    la hicieon con el mismo decorado de West Side Story, para ahorrar unos pesitos

  • @ibnhazm
    @ibnhazm 4 місяці тому +18

    Creo que la pena de muerte debería establecerse temporalmente para algunos directores de escena.

    • @aci1970
      @aci1970 3 місяці тому

      Y yo creo que la pena de muerte es por los comentarios exagerados en UA-cam. Como la hacemos?
      *Algunos commentan para no hacer otra cosa. Pena de muerte? En serio? Te parece que es algo apropiado de bromear?

    • @dianadainotto7817
      @dianadainotto7817 3 місяці тому

      @@aci1970es en sentido figurado ☺

    • @aci1970
      @aci1970 3 місяці тому

      @@dianadainotto7817 Como? No es en serio? Y yo que creía...🙄

    • @minodoraroman8864
      @minodoraroman8864 2 місяці тому

      😂😂😂bravissimo.

  • @Dylonely42
    @Dylonely42 15 днів тому

    6:44

  • @micky4fun
    @micky4fun Місяць тому +1

    Being a progressive thinking individual, I find this to be an interesting re-interpretation of the famous opera. But, sorry, but I think I will stick to the more traditional versions of Turandot. P.S.: I am a great Jonas Kaufmann fan.

  • @Dylonely42
    @Dylonely42 15 днів тому

    8:34

  • @user-pw7tn6js1x
    @user-pw7tn6js1x 4 місяці тому +10

    Театр оперный должен не только радовать слух, заставлять переживать сюжет, но и давать определенные эмоции визуальные. В данном случае визуальные эмоции отрицательные, что накладывается и на восприятие всего остального действа. Очень жаль, что постановка вне времени, отсутствие соответствующих декораций и костюмов стали повсеместны в оперных театрах, лишая возможности погрузиться в определенную эпоху , связанную с сюжетом оперы. Этот спектакль именно такой и его не спасают даже знаменитые певцы.

  • @gerontius3
    @gerontius3 4 місяці тому +12

    This is pretty wonderful. Asmik's acting is absolutely Oscar worthy (as usual). Kaufmann is also quite good though of course I imagine this with Asmik and Franco Corelli...................

  • @delrimario
    @delrimario 4 місяці тому +7

    Muy buenos cantantes. La produccion y la Regie una mierda.

  • @dgmelvin
    @dgmelvin 3 місяці тому +5

    Great singing and acting. I do hope that the odd stage design made more sense when seen in total. I found it quite distracting coming in at the end. But, what voices!

    • @nikashman5775
      @nikashman5775 3 місяці тому +1

      I was amazing. The sets and costumes gave the sense of an oppressive regime, created by Turandot who was then trapped in it. Kaufmann's not the greatest actor, but I adore him. Grigorian was spectacular. And the score, just when you think it's getting a bit cacophonous you find tears pricking your eyes.

  • @kurtgarmaker3719
    @kurtgarmaker3719 3 місяці тому +2

    Both are very good. But they should not be dinging this opera.. it tears the throat out. Callas sang this role often in the beginning and she did not like it and hoped that it would not ruin her voice . That's a big red stop sign . As a matter of fact tell me one Puccini opera ( and God knows I love him) that is good for your voice .

    • @music0326
      @music0326 3 місяці тому

      My favourite, Manon Lescaut :)

  • @lillacacchione2429
    @lillacacchione2429 4 місяці тому +2

    Bravissimi 👏👏👏

  • @breizhmabroy
    @breizhmabroy 4 місяці тому +2

    c pénible lui vraiment, tant à écouter que regarder. elle magnifique, effortless

    • @chantalbeckmann8022
      @chantalbeckmann8022 4 місяці тому

      ce n' est pas un rôle pour lui....il faut réécouter P. Domingo et dans une mise en scène autrement plus enthousiasmante ( au Met )

  • @user-ec2wi8qd3s
    @user-ec2wi8qd3s Місяць тому +2

    She does not have the voice of a "principessa di gelo"...

  • @user-lk1zn5cm4z
    @user-lk1zn5cm4z 3 місяці тому +3

    this is NOT Turandot.

  • @JamesPortoraro
    @JamesPortoraro 3 місяці тому +1

    I forgot to say "cheap"

    • @enricoluccarini3626
      @enricoluccarini3626 2 місяці тому +2

      Those two don't come cheap! Nor does the stage director.

  • @CarlosDIASPRO
    @CarlosDIASPRO 4 місяці тому +7

    Si no fuera por la música ésta opera hubiera fracasado,no entiendo quién es el ignorante que hizo ésta puesta,creo que si hubiera estado en el teatro me levanto y pido me devuelvan el importe de mi ticket, debería haber pena de muerte para los directores de escena, escenógrafo incluido.

  • @elisaalvarezbeca1549
    @elisaalvarezbeca1549 4 місяці тому +5

    Awful production😢 good singers ,not so good for Jonas this Calaf. ❤

  • @elizabethwallace7495
    @elizabethwallace7495 17 днів тому

    Beautiful singing--weirdest stage production every imagined1

  • @orientaldagger6920
    @orientaldagger6920 3 місяці тому +1

    The music is terrible? This is Puccini? Sounds like Alban Berg.

    • @masonevans779
      @masonevans779 3 місяці тому +2

      Funny you mention that… Puccini was slightly influenced by the second Vienense school, which Berg was part of. You can hear this influence during the first act of the opera with the use of atonality during the scene where all the spirits of the dead princes are trying to warn Calaf. Moreover, Turandot was premiered in 1924, around the same time as Wozzeck. With that being said, this is an edited version of the original Alfano ending (because Puccini died before finishing the score as I am sure you know) which is very theatrical compared to later Toscanini approved version.

    • @orientaldagger6920
      @orientaldagger6920 3 місяці тому

      @@masonevans779 I suppose when you are dead no one can stop some other hack from finishing your work. It just sounds weird and doesn't follow Puccini's music. You go from Nessun Dorma to this? Come on.

  • @coragazmen7073
    @coragazmen7073 2 місяці тому +1

    Terrible production,how could they modernize a beautiful opera like this,if it is not Jonas singing,it would be a flop,even Jonas looks like he is bewildered and asmik can sing but her acting is so so.I was thinking going to see it in June but coming from Canada would not be worth it.sorry I was waiting for Jonas as calaf but this production doesn’t suit him at all. 13:18

  • @josecarrerastema8654
    @josecarrerastema8654 2 місяці тому +2

    Che regia orribile,ma perché?

  • @vickiw3335
    @vickiw3335 2 місяці тому +7

    What a hideous production. I love that Asmik is doing Butterfly but I think Turandot is not the right choice for her yet. She needs to protect her incredible gift. She is already adding heavier roles too soon IMHO. She is a great artist!!

  • @art7695
    @art7695 4 місяці тому +8

    Kaufmann is a great singer in german repertoire but in italian operas is voice doesn't match similar results. Grigorian is not Turandot (Caballé too has sung Turandot and my comment at that time was the same) but is one of the few great singers . Let's hope she doesn't destroy her voice with wrong repertoire. Grigorian, in any case, much better than Kaufmann .

  • @javierrosell7782
    @javierrosell7782 3 місяці тому +1

    Bien Kauffman siempre tuvo problemas técnicos con su voz pero el público oyente no apreciaba esos errores que con el tiempo le traerían problemas con su voz y en esta ópera se le nota forzado y cansado y pierde la línea melódica de esta ópera y la soprano ni que hablar para esta obra la soprano tiene que tener un poco de fuerza y color de mezzosoprano pero hasta el coro se siente desgastado esta ópera bien conocida por su famosa aria Nessun Dorma es muy fuerte esta presentación no cubren buenos comentarios una puesta en escena que es una falta de respeto a los que aprecian el arte de la lírica mis respetos a sus comentarios esta es mi opinión pero no supera a la versión de Corelli y la Nilsson

  • @josepacifico-mc9pr
    @josepacifico-mc9pr 4 місяці тому +2

    DIOS MIO, PERO QUE ESPANTO!!!!!, empezando por los "" cantantes TERROFICAMENTE ESPANTOSOS, y lo demás, bueno, SIN PALABRAS!!!!!....

  • @GarethRickards
    @GarethRickards 3 місяці тому +5

    Horrible production, a soprano who should have been singing Liu, and a woeful Kaufmann, far past his sell-by date.

    • @enricoluccarini3626
      @enricoluccarini3626 2 місяці тому

      The Liu was Alagna's pretty little Russian wife.

    • @barbarachmielewska3233
      @barbarachmielewska3233 2 місяці тому

      @@enricoluccarini3626 Aleksandra Kurzak is POLISH, not Russian!!!

    • @MsCollin11
      @MsCollin11 28 днів тому

      ​@@barbarachmielewska3233 she is not too good either.......

  • @ESilva-qv1uv
    @ESilva-qv1uv 4 місяці тому +11

    Awful production and singers far from their fach. Pity Asmin has decided to sing Turandot. Not for her. Jonas is throaty, with that voce ingolata. Not good, sorry to say that. I love both singers, though.

  • @lz43p15
    @lz43p15 3 місяці тому +1

    Corelli Nilson per ora non raggiungibili specie x Kaufmann

  • @user-qv6sg6ku5v
    @user-qv6sg6ku5v 4 місяці тому +40

    Pressed and strangled voice. Just a constant squeeze. If Jonas Kaufmann had made his debut in Turandot earlier, he would have been a wonderful Calaf. Now he is too old for this role because his voice no longer has the clarity and brilliance it once did. What a pity !

    • @marinacaracciolo5940
      @marinacaracciolo5940 4 місяці тому +12

      Eppure ha avuto un successo straordinario, un motivo ci sarà... Il suo è un Calaf maturo, la sua voce è bronzea, ancora e sempre mirabile. La sua resta una eccellente prestazione e interpretazione.

    • @minodoraroman8864
      @minodoraroman8864 4 місяці тому

      Il publicco e spesso snob.

    • @ghislaineaerts2330
      @ghislaineaerts2330 4 місяці тому +2

      Subliem

    • @ghislaineaerts2330
      @ghislaineaerts2330 4 місяці тому +3

      Sublime vertolking Proficiat

    • @meisterwue
      @meisterwue 4 місяці тому +11

      You are right about Mr Kaufmann.....more than right. And Mrs Grigorian is no real principessa di morte

  • @t.alajosvarga6175
    @t.alajosvarga6175 3 місяці тому +1

    Blödsinn!!

  • @JamesPortoraro
    @JamesPortoraro 3 місяці тому +7

    Here we go with the stupid sets and idiotic costumes. Poor Puccini. Total lack of respect. Apparently designing awful "modern" sets guarantees success. Shame on Vienna

  • @Shahrdad
    @Shahrdad 2 місяці тому

    I like her, but he just bellows.

  • @thomasdahlen8533
    @thomasdahlen8533 4 місяці тому +12

    Terrible production and bad singers , Kaufmann and Grigorian are overestimated singes in these roles.Marton , Carreras and Riciarelli with Maazel were lovely to hear and see.Corelli and Nilsson , superstars between 1959 to 1973 are still best of singers in Turandot.This is Scheisse as they say i german.Who pays a lot of money for this ?

    • @ESilva-qv1uv
      @ESilva-qv1uv 4 місяці тому +2

      You are so right. I've made a similar comment.

    • @aci1970
      @aci1970 3 місяці тому +2

      People who are not stuck in 20th century?

    • @kurtgarmaker3719
      @kurtgarmaker3719 3 місяці тому +1

      Marton burned her voice out with this role. She did not have a good high C after this opera . So don't offer her up as a better singer than this singer in this video.

  • @pitrescatorce16
    @pitrescatorce16 27 днів тому

    Puccini would be offended by such an awful setting!

  • @Porn05Mouth
    @Porn05Mouth 4 місяці тому +5

    It absolutely SUCKS that Asmik and Jonas didn’t sing the descant at the end for the broadcast. I saw them live on 22 December where they DID sing it (as verified by house recording), and I nearly fell out of my seat because it was so thrilling. Was monumentally bummed to watch the broadcast only for them to stop singing completely after her “Il suo nome è amore.” At least audio exists I guess. Jonas was in much better voice on 22 December than on 16 December when this was broadcast, apparently.
    Asmik is a triumph in this role. Her acting is incomparable to any Turandot I’ve ever seen. Glad there’s a video (even if it’s not perfect).

  • @wuaaron808
    @wuaaron808 Місяць тому +1

    barely adequate for Liu.

  • @jamesmertins1618
    @jamesmertins1618 4 місяці тому +3

    Kaufmann is too old,how the hell is he going to sing Enzo in Gioconda with this voice.

    • @kurtgarmaker3719
      @kurtgarmaker3719 3 місяці тому +1

      Gioconda is not Turandot. This opera should not be sung by any singer who cares about their voice