Why I Don't Think Halo is Dead
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2023
- I've seen the sentiment floating around that Halo is dead. I ran a poll on my Community tab to see what my audience thinks, and over half the votes said, "yes, Halo is dead."
In this video I give a shot of optimism and why I think no, Halo isn't dead.
Twitch: / frogarchistyt - Ігри
Hey! Great video!
Thanks for the shoutout for Crash!!
Just released episode 2!
Definitely subscribed 😊
Your Machinima is great, really brings back the nostalgia.
Heyo, I literally just watched it the other day
absolutely loving crash! and can't wait for more, keep it up b00mrang!
It’s not “dead”. It just went from a power house franchise with a huge active player base and culture to a niche older video game with a cult following that’s split up into two sides. An All-star to a role player. As long as MCC has somewhat of an active player base, I’ll still be here.
I love how level-headed this take is, and it's one I agree with wholeheartedly, as a longtime fan who just recently came back. The series is still here, it's just not the media dominator it once was, and that's okay. Hell, recently I became better friends with a couple guys I've known for a year simply by realizing we all still love Halo.
I've been playing Halo with my best friend since 2004 until today, it's our favourite game and every time we play we only play Halo and we can't stop because it's so much fun together. Thank you for keeping another part of the beautiful community alive.
That's a lifelong friend right there.
@@Sketchy_2 no kidding. I wish I had a friend like that lol.
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stg frog is underrated
@@phraeci9070 110%
Dude this comment made me sub 🤣
@@KusholaCam LMAOOO, it's always funny as hell to try to be first and say it
I think as long as there are people like us, who enjoy playing the games, we continue to play the games, halo won't die. It surely isn't nearly as popular as it was in its golden era but I don't think it's dead. I think halo still have ample life in it.
2 takeaways… Halo isn’t dead and frog is a closet Taylor Swift fan
She makes some great songs, Anti-hero is fantastic.
@@ano_nym shes shit
I fully agree that halo isn’t dead. For example, I myself am a brand new halo fan. Infinite is my very first halo game, and I didn’t even buy the campaign at first. I actually just played multiplayer, and found it so fun that I bought MCC, and played every single Halo game apart from 5 which isn’t on PC. And now I’m playing halo almost every day, so it’s hard for me to even remotely think that Halo is dead, even from just a personal standpoint
Welcome aboard, Spartan! My first game was Nov 15 2001. Squad up!
Woah, now that’s impressive. Thanks for the welcome!
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@@paperclip6377 Forerunners were never human. Ever. Humans invade Forerunner territory while attempting to escape the Flood. That's what started the Human/Forerunner war that ultimately led to humans being devolved and planted on some back water rock called Erde-Tyrene. Halo:CE was supposed to be "one and done". It's massive success was unexpected. A lot of the "lore" was written on the fly and even Bungie's lore contradicts itself between Halo 2 and Reach.
@@paperclip6377 last century. Yeah. Keep up. You still post on Myspace too?
Halo never dies, it's just MIA.
Facts 💯
MIA for 6 years but yeah
Thats just a cope from the UNSC
@joeeljalapeno1816 you mean like Gta taking over a decade? Or what about elder scrolls 6?
The Hell Divers captured and executed Masterchief.
The first two minutes of this video perfectly summarize my thoughts on Halo's death. There are a ton of multiplayer games with dedicated audiences that get shut down entirely when they still have a following and to claim Halo is "dead" ignores that the servers for MCC and Infinite are still up and there is still a dev team committed to making content for the franchise.
why'd you have to remind me that the tv show exists man, i had just managed to forget about it
You need to remember to find the Halo, win the war
@@Thomas-9177 Find the Makee, clap the cheeks
I was not born at the right time to see the halo hype but through MCC I was able to see how the games were and how halo 3 is THE most popular halo but I wish I was born early to live it all through for the first time
How young are you?
2007 with Halo 3 on Xbox 360 live was something 🥇🏆🎯
Halo 3 was one of those things that made 2007 and 08 such a great time. I regret not having Steve and Jen sign that instead of Halo 4, I'm sure it would be worth more.
No bro, you didnt see the glory of halo 3 private matches, so much stuff going on, it was like gmod in the sense of variety
Halo MCC is really unique in the fact that there really aren’t any other franchises that have an all in one package with full multiplayer support. I also really appreciate how 343 has expanded the original games with extra skulls, optional weapon skins and armor, tons of new forge pieces, and even new maps
You bring up a good point that I hadn't really considered regarding the MCC. On top of it bringing back the various Halos for those that loved them, it made it easier to bring in others who may have missed the lime light. For example, last year my girlfriend and I played through all the Bungie Halos in release order and she liked it enough that she wanted to do it again but on legendary, we're up to Delta Halo so far but if not for MCC she likely never would have gotten to play any of them.
I've said it before, but as someone who enjoys Halo and niche anime fighting games, I think its crazy how often people think Halo is dead. Like sure the numbers aren't as high as they used to be, but it's not like I have to join a discord server and ask if anyone wants to play to actually get a match.
I found ur channel about a week ago, and I gotta say, probably one of the best channels I've found in the last 4 years. Keep up the great content my man, I hope you blow up (in popularity).
Remember Halo is the kind of game where their were several Fan projects working on remaking Halo, Instillation 01 and Halo 3 online. Fan said they would make it them selves if 343 would not, and their are not many franchises out their that you find that kind of dedication. Halo is one of the lucky few out that that dose have that kind of dedication.
Yeah I agree with you. I'm not a Halo mega fan really, but I still really enjoy the campaigns. I also really liked Halo Infinite's campaign after 4 and 5 left me pretty cold, so I think Halo is heading in the right direction. Halo custom maps are also starting to really improve, which could mean theoretically infinite (heh) halo campaign experiences. I thought New Covenant was pretty decent, but a campaign mission that came out a few days ago called "Kill Billus" really impressed me. Maybe you could do a video on custom Halo maps some time in the future?
I feel TOADally the same frog
booooo
i was too young to be playing the halo 2 and 3 boom but regardless halo ce was my first game i ever played and like yourself i’m hopeful that it isn’t dead and it somehow returns to its former glory
Just did a CE legendary (Boom skull on) run with a college friend that never played and it was one of the funniest/funnest experiences I’ve had. Highly recommend 😂💯
Halo CE is still one of the best games ever made.
I love Halo. I will always love Halo. So in my eyes, Halo will never be dead.
It is worth remembering that UA-cam and the internet in general tend to amplify the extremist negative sentiments; "343 KILLED HALO AND HERE'S WHY IT WILL NEVER COME BACK" will always attract more attention than "A statistical analysis of Halo player numbers". I know the player numbers really have dropped and views on content are down but there are many older games that have small but fairly resilient communities decades after their release, I wouldn't really worry about Halo disappearing, even if it seems less and less likely it will ever return to its heyday.
I heavily recommend the Halo Reach Mythic Overhaul from MythicJacqui and the GeneralKidd mods that change the player character to your custom character in 3, ODST (Firefight character replacing Rookie), Reach (Multiplayer elite replacing Six), and 4 for mods.
Quite annoying seeing people saying halos dead, then when a small update drops they say its back cycle and repeat
Thank you being the youtuber this community needs, but does not deserve by a mile.
You’re completely right, especially about MCC saving halo. Just a few days ago my buddy and I were talking about how we wish we could play infection again like in the halo 3 days.. so we loaded up MCC just to see if there was a playlist and there was. We got to have a nice little nostalgia trip and play some new stuff we hadn’t played before, it was great. Definitely warmed my cold heart for a few hours lol
Didn't play 5, didn't enjoy 4 very much, but Infinite really nails a lot of the aesthetic that previous games messed up on, for whatever that's worth. The battlepass might be every legacy titan's biggest challenge tbh
Edit: tbf! Infinites battlepass is the best as far as never going away, unlike other games
I'd agree, we still have a lot to work on but I think infinite will get better
@@Minebrawlzzzat this point it's guaranteed that with s5 will come firefight so yeah, it will get better
@@paperclip6377so would you rather they just stop working on the game
@@paperclip6377 yeah but it has launched and they can't turn back time literally the only thing 343 can do is work to make the game better
@@paperclip6377 yeah but it did happen and nothing can be done about it so why complain about something that can't be changed
As a Titanfall 2 and Infinite player i can agree
I'm particularly happy that people go back and post videos and talk about combat evolved and the other older games. It's nice to see people still so fond of them
I'm happy I was there during the time Halo was at the biggest. I feel sorry for newer Halo fans not being there & not seeing it when it was that huge
I also want to point out that
Halo has been known for large maps with crazy amount of player ability to move around
Even in small rooms, example CE I forgot the level but it the ones where u use suit emoji built in by Cortana
To blow up some cores or something
U got three way move to kill baddies
Left or right or straight through the center, not recommend the latter
Even on single pathways there always cover and ability to doge enemies
Especially the flood jumping around like monkeys on cocaine
So when Halo Infite camping had free roam, it was revolutionary
as wells adding back old weapons from nearly 20 years ago at least I think so
Thank you for opening my and many others’ eyes and explaining it so well! I have officially been gifted hope for Halo!
Halo won't be dead for me as long as I can play split-screen co-op with my dad.
Rest in peace Infinite and 5
It's such a breath of fresh air to find a video not trying to stir up some emotion or fishing for views, and just overall not overdramatic about Halo's current state. Great video, awesome job for being the person to help people get their head out of the twitter feed and look at the whole picture. Love your content man keep it up!
People on the internet LOVE saying that something is dead the minute that public interest moves on from it. I've heard people say that WoW is dead when it still has the playerbase and income of a small country, and hackers have been trying to put the final nail in Titanfall's coffin for literal years. Player count has nothing to do with whether a game is "dead" to the internet, it's all about marketability. If you're can't bring in hundreds of thousands of viewers on Twitch by streaming something, people will say it's dead and dismiss it. That's what's happening with Halo Infinite right now; it had its moment in the light when it released, and now that everyone knows it's not bringing anything new or trendy to the market, they've moved on to something that does.
I can't remember where I saw it, but at some point a few months after Cyberpunk 2077 released I saw a video or a post that was like "Is Cyberpunk 2077 dead?"
Yunno, Cyberpunk 2077, the singleplayer-only game.
That's when I was like "Okay. I get it now." It's not about the amount of players or the size of the community, at least not directly, it's about how successful or trendy it is.
I agree. While things are not looking good now, with all the updates. The community can be involved more with the games now. For MCC we have mods, for infinite we have forge. While it's far from perfect, I think it's still a fun time, at the end of the day, I think that's what matters most.
The community want a game that has content and features that are on par for a game that came out 15 years ago. It’s a flagship franchise. It’s not a lot to ask
Crash Site itself isn't cut content, but the assets within it are. The mission objectives and dialogue were done from scratch as a showcase of the content and a proof of concept for what can be done with the content released.
This is the best halo video I have ever seen it drops into detail on how it isn’t dead thank you so much for showing people it isn’t dead!
Where can I find this mod for CE that gives graphics from Halo 3? Is it usable in MCC?
I can't agree more. It's the biggest problem that drives the issues around gaming as a whole. I was born in the late 90's and I've watched gaming change over and over. Expectations have changed wants and needs have changed. The company's that make the games have changed and I think people can't expect it or are like me and you start to grow up. Like my opinion of the golden age was halo 3 to black ops 3 anything after has never come close.
I haven’t played Battletech yet, but 40k has always felt sorta like Command and Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars. The units die fast and take damage that limits their effectiveness. I’ve explained 40k this way to my friends to help them understand the game better. The units are like the “health” bar, where units that act like tokens pretty much have models removed to represent damage/effectiveness. Something they still have difficulty is the multiple rolls to kill anything though
Thank you for this video fellow optimist. Every community could use a bit of positivity.
The growth of this channel proves its not dead!
I’ve start playing halo mcc in 2021 before the release of halo infinite, the og trilogy was really great for it’s time and it’s still holds up well to this day.
“Want to know if we’re dying?”
“I know we’re dying, I want to know if we’re dead”
My halo spirit will never die but hope it gets better again someday
People calling the Halo franchise dead are either coping that Halo may not be for them or they don´t like the fact that other people may like Halo Infinite.
Halo will always be alive as long as the community persists.
Finally, an island of positivity in a vast sea of negativity. Someone who truly gets it. Thank you for this.
I'll see you in three months when we get yet another shit sandwich and told it's gold
For real, this video was a breath of fresh air
@@paperclip6377 the lore has been improved and the games have been great!
Honestly this video isn’t even copium. It’s just logic. Subbed!
Speaking facts. I still love halo. I was practically raised on halo since I was 10. I'm 22 now. I will never stop interacting with and loving halo.
Hey Frog! Halo is most definitely not dead and clearly by your fast climbing sub count this is true! Keep it up, new sub
You make an excellent point. I haven’t played a halo game in years because I don’t own an Xbox, but I still very much consider myself a halo fan. I watch the vidoes, I read all the books and comics, and in that regard I think 343 has been doing a decent job.
I never actually got to play halo multiplayer because I was too busy as a kid playing campaign missions over and over. Redownloaded Halo MCC the other day and been having a blast experiencing the multiplayer side of all of the games.
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I disagree with the thing about a large amount of people weren't invested. There were so many people that were invested. Video games that you play for days and days aren't just a song that you listen to. especially back in the day where games where so much more niche.
e.g: Playing football for 4 years of your life and then stopping just to hear that there is a new massive world championship, will not result in the average person having the feeling of apathy. If something was so good that you made memories, spoke to people, made friends and spent days participating in it, you wouldn't just move on and become apathetic towards it. You would always at least get a bit of nostalgia thinking about it and when hearing that.
In halo's case its not like the millions of people that played back in the day are just dead. Most of the people are still in their 20-30's and play games. Those millions still exist and crave or are at least interested in going back to relive that feeling. (or at least used to be)
For some reason a lot of people are still trying to find "why" the recent game is dead or dying. How can so many fans not see or at least understand why so many of us are mad. This thing that we all love has just been tarnished over and over with constant lies, false promises and disappointments. I have gone from hope, anger, sadness and finally to apathy.
Halo infinite was it for me. I played for a bit and then stopped caring and never came back on.
Its not that people weren't invested. Its those people that once were have now been driven to a point of absolute indifference.
like me.
My favorite response when someone says halo is dead is I still get matches. When they say the game sucks I tell them I still have fun with it
Halo isn't what it used to be that's for sure. But the amount of Halo content that exists, is still being made, and the sheer amount of views it gets shows how much people absolutely adore this franchise and so badly wish it to be as great as it once was. Halo is my favorite sci-fi universe, more than star wars, more than 40k, it's what I grew up with, and just like with many other people around my age (29) it helped get me through a lot of rough times growing up. I love Halo, and I'm never giving up on it. Just like Sgt. Johnson said "Don't EVER let her go"
From some leaks I heard like a halo manga is being made like all of the good things from halo legend in it
I find this "Halo is Dead" craze (and general negative attitude in the community) incredibly tiring . People have been saying halo is dead since Halo 2, so it's hard to take seriously at this point. If you really hate the new games that much, just go play something else. 343 has been in control of the franchise since 2011, and that's unlikely to change any time soon.
I personally enjoy Infinite quite a lot, and I don't think the excessive amount of hate is justified at all, and there is still a lot of Halo content besides it. Halo modding adds a ton of free new content for the old games, and I wish the community would talk about it more. Anything but the endless "halo dead, 343 bad lmao".
That, and I think all this Halo is Dead talk is ironically scaring away new players. Why would you try out a game if all you hear about it is how dead it is?
That first sentence... I concur
It's just baggage from this dreadful 343 era. Halo 4 and 5 are best known to the general audience as bombing with fans and being depleted of players almost immediately after launch. Then Halo players had to fight 343 for years with a social media community built entirely on tearing the Reclaimer games to shreds and talking about what had to happen to get things back on track. Then the last two years of mismanagement happened. To the general audience and Halo community, that's fairly dead.
The problem above all else is a lack of any hard population figures. If hard numbers were available like they used to be, this wouldn't be an issue. People could point at 15K or 20K and that would be the end of it. But player counters were removed in the first place because clearly those numbers we can't see aren't a good look.
Modding is great but people have been playing the old games for 13 to 22 years at this point. There's only so much additions and tweaks can really do, people are crying out for new content and new games. Infinite isn't bad, but it isn't enough, and it missed its opportunity to make an impact. There's also something to be said for the most exciting Halo content in 2023 being a few cosmetics, mods and light restored content for games that are well over a decade old minimum at this point.
@@tsukopara2054 You kinda explain the problem I have yourself. "Then Halo players had to fight 343 for years with a social media community built entirely on tearing the Reclaimer games to shreds" being explained as good thing sounds like an absolutely miserable fan base to be in
I really don't care about player number as long as you can find a game relatively quickly. Halo will never get as big as it was, and that's completely fine by me. Besides, people constantly going around telling other people the player number are low and how the game is dead really isn't helping with boosting the population. (not saying you are doing that BTW, but it does surprisingly happen)
I really don't understand your point about modding. You really want new halo content, but choose to completely ignore modding for some really vague reason. Communities and entire games have build on mods from the past. Counter Strike was a mod originally. Cursed halo gained a bunch of media and youtuber attention. Modding could totally bring in a bunch of new players
The main thing that bothers me is that the Halo community is miserableness for no real good reason. The Half-Life community didn't get a new game (not counting HDTF lol) for 13 years, and it was a VR game that most people couldn't even play. Doom has a pretty similar delay between Doom 3 and 4. Those communities weren't in this constant state of negativity like the Halo community is. TF2 has been on live support for a really long time now (it did just get an update tho!). Despite this they were/are actually fun communities to interact with. The Halo community generally just drains my energy with it's constant negativity, clickbait rumors and nostalgia circle jerk. I genuinely wonder why a lot of those people even stick around in the community at all if everything 343 has done sucks. They've been in control since 2011! Move on with your life! (not talking to you specifically, just shaking my fist at the air in frustration really)
100% agree dude, and I feel like some 343 haters legitimately despise people who enjoy 343 ‘s games because they didn’t. They get really toxic about it.
Halo is currently on the upswing if you ask me. I don't think there's going to be some sudden influx of players returning to MCC / Infinite anytime soon, but I believe ever since 343's upper management got replaced that the worst is over, and nu-343 has been doing much better than old-343 (not a high bar to hit, mind you)
new management is just getting what the old management started to the finish line really, doubt we will see the big contributions of the new management for atleast another year
Came here from the Crash Discord this is awesome ❤
idk what dead necessarily means when it comes to games. I think a good community to draw a comparison to is the Age of Empires 2 community; that game first came out in 1999. No one would necessarily the game is super popular now but it did numbers and had a dedicated enough community that it got its own MCC type remake in AOE2 definitive edition back in 2019. Even now, there's a good amount of daily AOE2 content being released and it doesn't look like it's going anywhere any time soon.
Speaking just of this: "idk what dead necessarily means when it comes to games"
Back in the day, and by most traditional and modern gamers, "dead" is defined by a game that doesn't receive updates by the developer, and is overlooked or entirely forgotten about by the consumer due to the developer not being involved within the game.
A large reason why the mantra of "The game is dead" comes about is due to the overwhelming amount of clicks that can get on UA-cam, and the trope that "343 sucks, they only want your money, they got it, scam artists!!"
The only Halo games considered "dead" are Halo war's entries, especially with MCC. Low player population, although symbolic of a game having no relevance, isn't even considered "dead". It's considered unpopular due to specified reasons.
MCC & Infinite, in particular, are directly unpopular due to their lack of meaningful matchmaking playlists to the consumer. With MCC having a relative selection in the "ranked" category, all of which isn't related back to why people enjoyed the original entries, which then in turn equals back to Infinite: Consumers "believe" it's dead simply because 343 is listening "to" the community, rather than the consumer, and thus "the game is dead".
I know, that sounds counter to the logic being displayed, however "the community" has very different views of what Halo was than the consumer, or the general player who typically isn't searching up Halo videos on UA-cam.
Additionally, region has a large chunk of this, and I'll discuss this more in a separate comment directed at this video -- but in the America's in particular (South America, and all of North America), Halo was predominantly a competitive matchmaking game with a large competitive scene. In overseas countries, where Halo CE, Halo 2 and Halo 3 were a highly niche game (With the Xbox and Xbox 360 barely selling outside of the NA/SA market), Halo was "just a game that existed", and those people had their own niche of what they considered Halo as.
Traditionally, the failure of Infinite is directly marked to 343 not understanding this basic principle -- or them understanding it, and ignoring it because the current "community" gets exactly what they want.
omg aoe2 and halo are my two favourite games/franchises
Hey, Frog! I definitely agree, great video!
I'm a new sub, but I recognize your voice. What other UA-cam channels have you had before??
Don't ask questions you don't want to know the answer to. The truth will shock you.
@@JayEllJayToo Good advice, "In times of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act"
I caught myself replaying Halo a lot in this year, from Halo 1-5 to the halo wars games and the gameplay still is extremely fun + smooth. „Smooth“ is what’s missing on many games these days so I see people will be coming back to smooth/repetitive gameplay when they get the chance. 343 just has to own it now
I want to hold out hope for the franchise I grew up with ever since I was a kid with an Xbox in 2001. Sadly the fact of the matter is that the management of the franchise had been entrusted to people who frankly do not fundamentally understand what made it great in the first place, overseen by a company that puts dollars ahead of everything else.
I will say that with halo infinite i was playing it and it felt like a halo game in a way that 4 and 5 lacked
I'm not a huge fan of the story in post-bungie but at least infinite felt like a halo game, even if only a mediocre halo game. It gives me some hope for a new game
It's hard to believe that consumer tastes have changed when the newer games are objectively worse. We will NEVER know how a true Halo game would've fared in today's market. I am willing to bet it would still be a powerhouse if 343 weren't incompetent.
Can you do a video on Halo Infinite’s Mulitplayer (Current State)
Bringing some love from Crash, thanks for the mention.
I have always been a person that loves trying new stuff, halo is the biggest franchise out there! I love the bungie games, and the 343 games, halo has always been my bread and butter, and halo will always be my favorite franchise!🙂
A game aint dead until the servers shut off and all real ways to play it online are gone.
There are 15k people playing Halo Infinite at any given moment, 10k on MCC on steam alone, and that isn't including the Xbox numbers nor the people who boot up an xbox ever once in a while to enjoy the classic games outside of MCC.
Pretty alive for a dead IP.
The latest MCC updated silently added a bunch of stuff for gametype modders like myself to enjoy, on top of the digsite content and other modding related things. One of these silent features has opened up a can of new possibilities for forge maps in Halo Reach, which benefits all players (Xbox and PC). If the franchise was dead, they wouldn't bother adding these features for what is basically a sub-community of the modding community of the halo community.
Halo isn't dead as long as I'm alive. I will be playing CE until I die. 22 years in, let's hope for many more!
Halo Custom Edition was thriving for years before MCC was ported to pc.
just simply adding mod support to a game can make its playerbase last an entire decade, if not, more.
Mcc since the halo reach update has been literally one of the best things to happen to this franchise
Great argument and with all of the stuff going on with Halo it seems like Halo is starting to get the effort and care it deserves.
Halo doesn't die, it just faints
FROG
I just wanna say that ur speaking Hella facts bruh
Despite being broken i still love mcc.
Play with my old buddy from time to time
The best of us has passed Spartans but the fans keep it alive
"Hard to believe Halo's dead."
"Were it so easy."
For me, Halo was always the competitive scene. There isn't one any more, so to me it's dead. I've tried playing some casual MCC a handful of times over the years since it was fixed, and I get bored every time. I need the experience of teaming up with 3 friends and hopping into the MLG playlist for 4 hours straight. That's long gone.
Halo just went trending the other day on Twitter because of mint blitz lol!
Well I bought the MCC a few days ago and all I could find multiplayer wise was halo two team slayer that was being hosted by a dev because he was the only one not playing, yeah he wasn't moving because I plinked him in the chest with a sniper rifle and he didn't budge so I finished him with a simple headshot and then I get a achievement for killing a Dev and get this not long after I snuck into their base and he seen me came over and started tea bagging, this was the first game I found that people were playing the game because I was on reach before that and I swear I thought I was playing a rp server on gmod
Can't believe a frog is better at halo than me
After I saw the halo 3 maps being added to infinite i was willing to try it again but i was quickly reminded how terrible it feels to aim compared to halo 3 on mcc. Killed my enthusiasm real quick.
Ok don’t get me wrong, old 343 and Microsoft damaged the franchise, A LOT, but something else people need to accept is that certain things lose popularity after a while, and some things stay popular, but it’s largely down to adapting. COD adapted by making war zone, a br based mode, halo 4,5 and despite my love for it infinite, changed some things, but didn’t change suited for the current metta.
I think it depends on what you consider dead, like you said mods for example will keep halo alive forever now, hell halo ce on pc always had a decent mod community so with the recent release of the moding tools I think it will only grow larger (and that goes for all of the games, e.g halo4 reflow) but I do have this feeling that infnate was this last big Hail Mary for 343 that if they could bring a decent size of the play base back or atleat have retention that mincrsolf would keep them in a good state(well funded and with lots of developers and gives what ever they are working on a spotlight). But unfortunately infnate clearly isn’t going to great and that has lead to: the 343 lay-offs, no story content, no real future halo news plus no spotlight on any project
So is halo gone forever? No I don’t think so we’re always have mods and people that love it. But I do have this feeling that new official halo content might just be “dead” for a while.
hopefully like doom and not like prince of Persia
But I suppose it will depends like normal how much money they are get from us and if there’s anything more profitable to shove money in to instead.
Have you play Halo 5 guardian?
Honestly, I think the lay-offs were the best thing that could happen. An issue with game development is too much staff, since you need great management at all times to make it work. Which didn't happen.
So a down-sizing and refocussing on what the company is was very needed
I feel very lucky to greatly enjoy all of the games. I grew up on the old ones, and think the open world concept is something that the halo devs need to explore further going forward. I loved skyrim, just played through FO4 finally, and think that Halo could 100% fit the open world genre if they learned from what they did wrong with Infinite and kept going.
Finally a Halo take that isnt dim and grim doomer crap.
Really good video. I can't say anything about Halo Guardians or Infinite but MCC is just a masterpiece in my opinion. I'm amazed at how often it goes on sale and it's just the best thing you can buy in my opinion. Six mostly amazing games for $10 bucks! Maybe at some point I'll try Infinite (I think I've seen enough to just pass on Guardians) but for right now I think I'm going to fire up MCC and play Reach (though watching your livestream the other day makes me also consider playing CE instead).
1:45 no no no, now It's extraction shooters
This is a great video, I think the problem is that there’s not much new exciting content for the Halo community and it drives people away from it, I personally stopped watching any halo news channel because it was depressing to see people get excited about infection finally in a halo game after almost 2 years. People want to be happy for it, it’s just hard to be when there’s not much coming out to be excited about
MCC is definitely helping keep halo alive. Brilliant idea
That awkward moment when the real Halo killer ended up being itself 😭
Well said Frog. You make some excellent points.