That quasi-isorhythm from Meshuggah’s Catch 33

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  • Analysis of Sum by Meshuggah.
    The duration cycle is always the same (4/3/3/4 sixteenth notes), while the pitch cycles change in the second half of the riff.
    For a deeper analysis, check the full video in my main channel about Meshuggah : • MESHUGGAH et la MUSIQU...
    Contact : mathemusique.contact@gmail.com
    #Meshuggah #Isorhythm #Mathémusique

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  • @Chamberz333
    @Chamberz333 8 місяців тому +50

    When I heard this for the first time I was around 16. I suffered of anxiety and this riff encapsulates it perfectly. I remember painting a deformed silhouette while listening to it.

  • @Leviplaysdrums
    @Leviplaysdrums Рік тому +50

    Brings a tear to my eye

    • @Diftonez
      @Diftonez 11 місяців тому +4

      Same, very powerful

  • @byzantinephilosopher
    @byzantinephilosopher 10 місяців тому +49

    This is amazing. Now I know why i could never keep timing with this song when trying to play it. Keep making these

  • @Diftonez
    @Diftonez 11 місяців тому +26

    One of the most beautiful quant of music ever!!

  • @sssveny
    @sssveny 8 місяців тому +5

    Ending with that set of 5 and then starting with the scream is so sick

  • @brentos5001
    @brentos5001 10 місяців тому +13

    Amazing analysis. Meshuggah are so complex- your videos help me to constantly continue to learn and digest their material. Such a labour of love!

  • @gush5436
    @gush5436 Рік тому +18

    Beautiful work, keep it up!

  • @ltousch
    @ltousch Рік тому +11

    Ce travail d'analyse que tu fais est toujours très impressionnant. Ça donne envie d'écouter Meshuggah !

  • @bassist4lif31
    @bassist4lif31 10 днів тому

    I'll never forget hearing this for the first time...
    I was on a 3 and a half hour drive to my grandparents and was on a part of the drive which was just a long, wide open section of Midwest freeway. I spaced the fuck out so goddamn hard I blew past the exit I was supposed to get off at by like 5 miles before I realized something was off.

  • @daboo444
    @daboo444 3 місяці тому +2

    Its so sad this channel died. I'd love to see Immortal Onion - Eye Tracking visualisation

  • @Peculate
    @Peculate 6 місяців тому +2

    Brilliantly demonstrated. Another way of grouping the subsets of notes is ||: 4+4+4+6 | 4+4+6 :|| 4+5 ||

  • @Trystaticus
    @Trystaticus Рік тому +6

    love this channel

  • @Regular_Pigeon
    @Regular_Pigeon Місяць тому

    it's complicated and simple at the same time. i'm not good with theory, but i can just 'feel' the part and air guitar/drum somewhat accurately. cool analysis.

  • @F0XxX98
    @F0XxX98 8 місяців тому +1

    You need to keep making these

  • @robbledot7290
    @robbledot7290 Рік тому +3

    Wonderful work

  • @vash-san
    @vash-san 3 місяці тому

    As a physicist, I find your videos astonishing. I hope you will have the inspiration to make more of these small studies!

  • @jebslept8515
    @jebslept8515 5 місяців тому

    完璧な絶望と理不尽さを感じられる唯一のリフ

  • @myweeweeburns
    @myweeweeburns 8 місяців тому +2

    any way you can explain some of the dillinger escape plan's music?

  • @Precurser001
    @Precurser001 11 місяців тому +4

    Comment ils peuvent se coordonner ? c'est impressionnant, ils ont dû apprendre tout par cœur

    • @Diftonez
      @Diftonez 10 місяців тому

      They count I suppose.

    • @Precurser001
      @Precurser001 10 місяців тому +2

      @@Diftonez je voulais dire en fonction de l'ordre et de la taille des mesures, je fais moi même de la batterie et la coordination de la batterie sur la guitare sur des rythme si complexe et imprévisible est vraiment dur et impressionnante, je pense que derrière il y'a beaucoup d'entraînement.

    • @jormungand1224
      @jormungand1224 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Precurser001Et ca c'est sans compter la caisse clair + charleston en 4:4 a côté

  • @Midian34
    @Midian34 10 місяців тому +4

    maybe someone knows whats going on guitar-wise in the second half of the ending? (2:06-2:36) it's seems that accents change and another set of notes are introduced between the previous lower accents of D A# A F, but at the same time there are orchestrations (plus Jens' screaming) introduced into the mix and guitars are drowned out, I can sense the change in the lower register as bass also accents these additional notes, but can't concisely articulate what the hell is going there...

    • @vishnubachani9548
      @vishnubachani9548 9 місяців тому

      Wrong timestamps? This video is less than 2 minutes long.

    • @Byvydy
      @Byvydy 6 місяців тому +1

      Ahaha...sono anni che ascolto questa canzone ma non ho mai capito cosa succede..si incastrano tante note❤

    • @Midian34
      @Midian34 6 місяців тому +2

      @@vishnubachani9548 timestamps are for the song itself not the video :)

    • @satoritangier903
      @satoritangier903 4 місяці тому

      This is where my ear throws in the towel too. Like you said, doesn't help that the mix gets super murky there with screams added and synth string levels maybe bumped up a little too. Granted I'm not a polymetric wizard djent lord by any stretch, but I remember sitting down with this section of the song for hours trying to figure out what was happening and it seriously broke my brain.
      This was the last Meshuggah album I really got into. Don't know if I just got older and moved on, but I think between this and "I" they could've ended it here and went out at the top of their game. Insane couple of albums.

    • @ryanstinson726
      @ryanstinson726 3 місяці тому

      im pretty sure they add a c# in the pattern after the d

  • @Si-Al-Ti
    @Si-Al-Ti 3 місяці тому

    listen from 0:50 and focus on the rhythm bass/guitar (can't tell which) that emerges at exactly 0:55 and making like a double stroke when/during the cycle repeats again. I never noticed this before.

  • @NegativeSanity505
    @NegativeSanity505 11 місяців тому +2

    amazing

  • @ytpanda398
    @ytpanda398 4 місяці тому

    Great stuff

  • @claudiasolomon1123
    @claudiasolomon1123 4 місяці тому +1

    Is this gonna be on the test🤔🤔🤔🤔????

  • @V-XENO
    @V-XENO 3 місяці тому

    I'd love to see you make a vid on Lateralus, please heart if you ever do.

  • @Rick-ie8zh
    @Rick-ie8zh 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for making this.
    Sum is my favorite part of this great album.

  • @pratikmali9277
    @pratikmali9277 6 місяців тому

    Hey man… This might be too much to ask but can you do analysis of Shakti’s Shrini’s dream…. The rhythm there feels crazy.

  • @SoChilledOutGuy
    @SoChilledOutGuy 9 місяців тому

    E sharp?

  • @colofduty3836
    @colofduty3836 3 місяці тому

    Bruh do some squarepusher 😎❤️❤️

  • @lyoug
    @lyoug 6 місяців тому

    I found a simple rule to explain the pitch cycle lengths in the second half: ua-cam.com/video/yvS-tg-DzWY/v-deo.html Basically it’s just a 4 bar loop with a simple twist.
    Love your videos by the way!

    • @music_representations
      @music_representations  6 місяців тому +1

      Yeah this is true thanks for the remark!! so it’s in order to keep the 4/4 feel ;)

  • @youngjumbuk
    @youngjumbuk 4 місяці тому

    biblical

  • @fallacy08_shrine
    @fallacy08_shrine 11 місяців тому +1

    Damn

  • @felipekbca7235
    @felipekbca7235 Рік тому +3

  • @ThreeBeingOne
    @ThreeBeingOne 5 місяців тому

    Powerful AF

  • @Gradiencedk
    @Gradiencedk 10 місяців тому

    What is life.

  • @mikeypauly8371
    @mikeypauly8371 Місяць тому

    bruh

  • @dan.j.boydzkreationz
    @dan.j.boydzkreationz 8 місяців тому

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