Ok, the very unbalanced “My Way or the Highway” interpretation of Lois was starting to get to me, but the very idea of making Clark a hacker caused me to bust out laughing.
It would be kinda funny if Clark had some Kryptonian autohacking widget from his father's legacy that was so advanced it could annihilate any Earth security without the user even having to know what they were doing. So everyone assumes he's some genius hacker, but he's essentially a script kiddie with REALLY GOOD SCRIPTS.
I mean everyone has a much greater understanding of how computers and stuff work even back in 2015 so the sorta “mad skills hacker” trope became just impossible to take seriously at some point… doesn’t help that he’s a kid raised on a farm.
MJ is her own character, too. She's not just Peter's girlfriend. She was a model, a loving wife, she could hold her own, especially in the Michelinie run. He made me really like her. I feel like non-comic readers get these simplistic views of these characters and, when a few people criticize them, the comic company feels the need to push this girlboss message and change a character that didn't need to change.
Sasha also very lovingly highlighted how and why Mary Jane is so popular and what made her a fan favorite in the comics when she arrived in her Gwen Stacy retrospective video. It’s SO refreshing to see more and more people realize there’s more to her character than: she’s Peter’s love interest. There’s so much more to her, and to Lois and the other girls too.
I agree, but in the case of Lois was always kind of a girlboss? Even in her first few appearances, she was career-obsessed, mocked Clark for being a wimp and only agreed to dates out of pity, and hated being stuck to the "puff pieces" section of the magazine. She constantly did things like tagging along on Clark assignments in order to get some real cases, like the boys. She sweetened on Clark after the release of the movie "My Girl Friday," which clearly impressed the writers of the time. But it's only in the 50s that she became more of the marriage-obsessed "Superman's girlfriend." But in the Golden Age, she was very much what we would term "girlboss."
I find it hilarious how Stan Lee's attempts to make MJ uninteresting and unavailable to shippers had the opposite effect and made her a more rounded character.
Why would anyone buy their kid a video game setup that could physically hurt them? There's enough misinformation about "video games cause mass shootings" that a game that simulates impact trauma from bullets would never get past the pearl clutchers. It's not just negligent, it's abusive.
Yes! If people want to feel pain in a shooting game, they play paintball! But the science of how a VR game would hurt you without a physical way to hit you are mad science. Not commercial grade stuff.
I’m guessing the writer had a kid who watched SAO when it came out a couple years before or something. That did the vr mmo approach and had the “you die in the game, you die in real life” part. And SAO was pretty popular when it came out even if it wasn’t all praise.
The "internet boyfriend from Smallville" would be way more interesting if we're left to assume that's it's Clark, but at the end we learn it's Lex. We assume his caginess is Clark trying to hide his super-identity or whatever, but really it's Lex just exercising his normal amount of paranoia.
@@CasuallyComics Then you’ll love (and I swear by Grabthar’s Hammer this is an actual song), Wig by the B52’s. Also: oh no! Secretly Wig Woman!?! You’ve been found out! Now somebody’s gonna have to cast a spell, and there goes the Multiverse!
Reading question: If bullying is bad, why is Lois Lane bullying both James and Clark Kent? Is bullying good if it's done for the sake of "Great Justice"? Who determines what constitutes "Great Justice"?
Its a YA novel, were you expecting nuance or a consistent coherent theme or main characters that aren't hypocrites and just as awful people as their antagonists?
Sounds like the kind of story in which an action is good or bad depending on whether the person performing it is inherently good or bad rather than the other way around.
I'm confused. As someone who comes from a military family, l don't understand her dislike of "rich" people. Her dad is a general seemingly working in special projects. They're not poor by any means.
@@johnpotts8308 then you haven't read a lot of comics with general Sam Lane in it. In nearly every version the man is a tool and he has no problem spending money. 😆
@@7woundsfist I've read enough comics to know that tertiary characters have wildly inconsistent characterisations. Who knows the backstory of Sam Lane in this continuity!?
Immediately, the detailed description of Lois’s outfit gives me Wattpad vibes. Less is more when it comes to character descriptions. I don’t know, does that appeal to teen girls?
Dunno about teen girls, but I enjoy costume descriptions - if they're done well. It can help set the scene and describe personality, without just telling you a checklist of things. I do enjoy costuming and behind the scenes stuff, tho When it's done badly, you gett Wattpad vibes. That's usually because it's just a list of what they're wearing, instead of how that interacts with the characters and scene. i. e. - "I was wearing ripped jeans and a pink cropped cami with lace at the bottom, with an oversized hoodie when I saw him on that cold afternoon. VS The temperature had dropped unexpectedly, and it was cutting through the holes in my jeans. I wrapped my old comfort hoodie around me a little tighter, trying to offset the chill, as I waited for the bus. The lace on the bottom of my shirt was scratching my stomach, and I was grimacing pretty hard by the time I realized I was blankly staring at the guy across the street.
@@Ashen.Elixer Your example is great because it tells us more about the character than JUST what they’re wearing. It tells the reader what sort of attitude the character has going into the scene, tells us how they view themselves, and tells us what environment they’re in. The discomfort of the lace, for example, reflects the awkwardness the character is feeling. If she had a different attitude, she might feel like she’s caught the guy glancing at her flirtatiously and the itch of the lace and the chill of the wind on the exposed parts of her legs might be drawing her back to reality from a dreamy state.
Well, not necessarily. It depends on what you're writing and the character the themselves. Really as long as its relevant to the strong and establishing the character you can be as detailed with the outfit. For example, if you're writing a business man and they're in the office wearing a red flannel Hawaiian shirt, polka dot bowling shoes, parachute paints, and a yellow fez, all of that is pretty significant. Its a major contrast with the environment (office) and occupation (businessman) and raises a lot of questions that deal with the character's personality, current situation, and role. However, if you're writing a businessman and they're wearing a black suit and red tie, brown slacks, and dress shoes, you can probably stop at black suit (or even just "businessman" as that's probably exactly what people picture). Maybe spend one line on a little detail about their suit being pressed a little too perfectly or something (which would hint at them being a neat freak). You're looking for descriptions that advance the character or plot (or both). It is true that if, the description is doing neither its worthless and wastes readers time, but as long as its accomplishing something, its fine.
I don’t know if it appeals, but my brain automatically assumes the writer is a teenage girl when it encounters a detailed list of a carefully curated outfit.
So one thing that's sticking in my head is with Clark and the video game. It makes the person feel real pain. So here we have someone who is essentially invincible suddenly feeling pain for the first time in years. He also has super strength and speed, and may react in a way that would disrupt the VR headset. And suddenly severing the connection is very disorienting... This doesn't sound like a good combination for the Kent family house.
“She’s a prop for Lois in this story. She’s more Lois’ cause more than her friend.” I’m wheezing! That such an accurate description of how some people treat me! 🤣♿️😉
So Clark Kent catfishing Louis Lane 100% sounds like a silver age story. If silver age Superman had the internet you know he would have catfished Louis Lane probably more than once
I want to know more about Lucy's unicorn gang. Sounds way more interesting than the main plot. Just the two scenes you gave us were hilarious and full of character growth (Lucy went from resenting the game to becoming a tyrant in it).
I read the first of these when it came out, and was a bit underwhelmed. It just felt very low effort and generic to me. And I agree that the narrowminded way of writing Lois as always right when instead her behavior could be read as interestingly flawed was obnoxious.
I've always felt that a younger hero especially, whether a guy or gal, should always have some flaw at some point (not necessarily moral flaws, but naivety or misjudgment due to lack of experience are big for character development). The always perfect/always right character is just unrealistic and lame. This is why the original 60s Supergirl actually is very fun to read, she's a young heroine who has to sometimes adjust strategies quickly because her original one backfires spectacularly or simply doesn't work. And when Superman gives her advice, she doesn't see it as "mansplaining" (or whatever the feminists call it), she takes it as usually wise guidance from a more experienced family member and hero. Writing has sadly gone down in quality massively in recent years.
"She wants to right injustices and seek the truth." Yes, that's part of who Lois is. But She's also kind of an awful person when left to her own devices, running roughshod over anybody and anything who stands in her way. She's blunt, manipulative, cruel, and thinks rules don't apply to her. It's my opinion that, without the influence of Clark (both as himself and as Superman), Lois would become the stereotype of all the worst traits of fictional journalists.
Being an author, I can tell you that usually agents and publishers like series - so this was likely a 3 book contract deal. That way they can write the storylines over the three books without worry of being canceled.... usually. ;)
If the vibe I get from this is at all accurate, it sounds like that would be absolutely in character for Lois. And when that exposes him as Superman, she wouldn’t feel guilty and the narrative would still treat her as in the right.
The Smallville thing really bugs me, if it was that she didn't know who Smallville was and it turned out to be anyone other than Clark Kent would be interesting (like Pete Ross), but if it is Clark why oh why would he use the name of the very small town where he lives? Also has Clark made Lois his side chick or are Lana and him not a thing in these books? It is very weird how these types of stories retroactively want to make it that the female in the OTP has always been faithful to their endgame, even before they met. It was dumb when Marge's first kiss was with Homer, and it's dumb here.
to be fair on the Smallville thing in some versions of their first meeting when Clark tells Lois he's from a place called Smallville she thinks he's joking because that name sounds ridiculous
I saw this book at the library and I picked it up because I love Lois but when I got to the detailed outfit description and then the “spit in his coffee” moment I went “oh no” and put it back
This is the problem with activism in media today. I'm actually happy to have progressive messages in our media. I would like very much for even more properties to tackle social justice narratives and confront and examine the central issues we still face. In order to do that effectively, media companies need to find writers who are interested in talking about those issues. Instead, they keep hiring activists who claim to be able to write, but actually know nothing about the medium they've decided "needs their voice". Because they see media itself as nothing more than a vehicle for their message, the story itself and characters tend to be underdeveloped and incoherent. Worse, because of the particular philosophy of thought that dominates a lot of these activists, they see morality as being defined by social groups, rather than being universal. Something is morally good or bad, depending on who is doing and to whom it is done. The exact same action is deemed as morale, based entirely on the group identity of the participants, rather than any universal sense of right and wrong. As a result of this, the protagonists of their work are frequently horrible people who treat others like shit. The author just doesn't realize this, because all of the shitty behaviors are directed at people whose group identity is not currently seen as oppressed, and thus is a fair game target. This particular moral framework has really strange consequences in the real world. As a black man, whether or not I am experiencing underserved advantages, or finally getting justice is based entirely on the observer's perception of my benefactor's intent. If they are giving me an advantage because I am black, then it's social justice. If they are giving me an advantage because I am a man, then it's patriarchy. The idea that I'm simply receiving what I have objectively earned is not even an option to consider within this framework. All that matters is the perceived intent of the person "giving" me something.
My issue with some activism is it seems those doing it forget those on the other side are people. I am reading the batman arc the cowardly lot and in that a villain, miracle molly sees no problem stealing from the rich since "they had it coming". Bruce keeps pointing out the human element saying things like "so since they are rich they arent people?". This evenutally leads molly to go "Iknew you were rich!" And not think he had points. Im just saying some, keyword some, activists get like that. I am also autistic so maybe I am missing nuance. If so please enlighten me. Not nessarily good people nonthless. This goes for the group they are trying to help and neutral parties sonestimes too. I understand that many times they are fighting bigger picture things like institutions, cultural values and that plently of individuals knowingly and unknowingly get involved but forgetting their humanity just seems like a bad, if accidebtal step.
I feel awful in thinking this when reading author's interview about how they were so excited in writing this, and how this is what they think what cool and progressive means...but it always either ends up too cringy or the protagonist just end up being jerks, or the story is just bland. I always wondered if it was just me not getting it or what. It always makes me sad though, because it leaves me with disappointment when I just wanted good content of the character.
Clark Kent, boy raised on a farm in Kansas… hacker, gamer, and general computer guy? Just don’t feel right I’m not saying he shouldn’t know what a computer is or be bad at using one, but he shouldn’t be an expert either
I think I vaguely remember reading some of this book. I sort of remember waiting for the shoe to drop and reveal that whilst well intentioned some of Lois' assumptions & actions were very iffy and that to prompt some soul-searching and growth.
I hope the Daily Planet has unconscious bias training, because Lois really needs it. That cover doesn't really say Lois Lane from the pages of Superman to me. It could be any old Lois Lane. It could do with a photo cover. But I guess, even though Amy Adams would be possible as this is between 2013 and 2016, that's not really something they'd have gone for since she wasn't high school Lois. There was an original novel based on Lois and Clark: the new adventures of Superman. Which did have a photo cover of Dean Cain and Terri Hatcher. Written by award winning Science fiction and fantasy writer CJ Cherryh. No idea where my copy is, but I remember it being perfectly in keeping with the style of the show. And it was economically paced at about 230 pages. Worth checking out if you can find. Talking of finding things: did you get the action figure in the end?
This just makes me remember "Lois Lane and the Friendship Challenge" accept in that Lois being a jerk to her friends was an actual plot point, and they read Batman comics despite that Lois is around 10 years old in that book so Bruce should be about 15. So there shouldn't be a Batman yet.
Maybe Bruce got an early start?? Or he's older in that AU? IDK. The idea of a ten year old Lois reading about a 15 year old Batman is pretty amusing... I'm just imagining this super edgy emo version of Bruce.
She's certainly up there, though May Parker and MJ can put in a bid over on the Marvel side, and Alfred Pennyworth has a good case in DC. And there's also the wording quibble - non-powered heroes and villains aren't that uncommon in comics - Lex Luthor and Batman both compete in that arena - unless you count "I'm rich" as an actual superpower.
@@rmsgrey Those certainly would be her competition for that title, Indeed . But none of them had their own self-titled continuing title like Lois.✌️ There won’t be an Aunt May omnibus (Well, I hope not). …I’d say Batman and Luthor are definitely super-powered- Just supposedly not superhuman. 🤔✌️😎🙂 Their powers are far beyond any normal “real” people - While Lois is very resourceful - But she’s not supposed to have powers like Black Widow or Cat Woman.
@@rmsgrey Not sure she is just 'up there' but she is number 1. She has headlined 2 shows (Lois & Clark. Superman & Lois) and has a major presence in all films with Superman in it (even both cuts of Justice League she is in it proportionate to Superman being awake) and that is just live action... plus she has married every male in the DC universe... Number 2 is either Alfred or arguably Uncle Ben (that line is ubiquitous even among non-comic book fans)
Ugh, tampering with people's food/drink like that is a major trigger for me...It's the very possibility (which could be done even if you don't treat someone badly, if they just don't like the way you look or something) that makes me hope for the day impartial robots take over all food service...
Professional Rivals Yes, Romantic Rivals Not Really…Because No Matter how Much Cat wanted to Hit It & Quit It, Clark was Laser Focused On Lois , even the Hot DA from season 2 Mason Drake really had no chance 🖖🏾
So True , that’s why I Luv the line from Bruce in STAS World's Finest “ It’s Ironic You Know She Likes Bruce Wayne , & Superman, it’s the Other 2 Guys She’s Not Crazy About “ 🖖🏾
So they made a story intending for Lois to stand on her own without Superman there to save her? And then make it a plot point that Superman regularly saves her, anyway? I feel like one of these doesn't fit with the other.
Wow, I'm surprised I've never heard of this series. I remember when DC was heavily pushing its YA novels like Wonder Woman: Warbreaker and Catwoman: Soulstealer. Those were really pushed in YA spaces but I've never seen the Lois Lane series. In my experience, comic book IP novelizations specifically for a YA audience often fall flat. They're always just a little too cookie-cutter and formulaic for my taste but they do occasionally have their moments.
@@phabiorules when it comes to corporate pushes like this they really dont actually need to be profitable for the people in charges egos to keep them going and as someone who reads a lot of ya they vary from poor to good nothing truly terrible or great
I’ve always loved Lois Lane. She’s one of my favorite characters and one of my earliest crushes. But I don’t see myself reading this novel. As you put it, “it’s a lot of a lot”.
You mean the graphic novels? They were good for the first few but go down hill after. Which is a shame as I liked the light hearted stuff if not the art style
This series seems to be acutely unaware of its trope behavior and stereotypes- as if it's trying too hard to be empowering and making a mockery of the attempt. rather than coming across as a hard edged seeker of truth, Lois comes off as a tri-hard SJW. I think the writer had good intentions but a horrible execution of the idea.
Here’s the thing, of course she won’t create “problems” for Lois, cuz the author is a psychopath who thinks Lois is right always, and is an avatar to say all the mean things the author wants to say. Of course everyone bends over backwards and the story portrays people who do nothing but vaguely upset her at a glance, as the problem
I'm kinda liking Maddy's t-shirt idea. Sounds like a fun way to mess with people. Also.. the MMO experiment sound very Sword Art Online (.. which predates this book by up to a decade or more)
I really enjoy the way you break down the writing and world-building in things like this. I'm addicted to writing-related material for not-yet-published reasons, and your take on these things is often more insightful than the more plodding approaches of people who talk about writing for a living (if in different enough ways to make that hard-to-justify comparison even weaker). I think there's something important about coming at it from the point of view of a reader, which you really work with in this context (even though your scripts show your own writing chops). But in any case, I value your perspective and thoughtfulness, and the impact it's has on my work so far. Thanks!
"We protect people, see what other people miss. We don't need anyone to look after us. Also, I'm completely insufferable. Aren't you?" Seriously, as much as I love all your Lois Lane Marries X videos, she really comes off as just the worst. Or maybe the 1960's writers on Superman's Girlfriend Lois Lane were the worst. And this YA book is also the worst. I did really like Lois in Superman: the Animated series though. Maybe DC should make Paul Dini and Bruce Timm co-editors in chief, have another Crisis, and just start over.
Eh, Dini and Timm have their own weird quirk as well. Like Batman having sex with Barbara Gordon (I think that one is mostly Timm). Whoever you put in charge, you need good editors to rein in their more bizarre ideas.
@@alexandredesbiens-brassard9109 Very true. Timm's Bruce/Batgirl obsession is just...strange. I guess at the end of the day there's only one Kevin Feige and DC doesn't have him. Which is good for me because I get a Moon Knight TV show.
Oh, Lois is totally a self-righteous jerk in this book. I still buy into it, because I, personally, was also terrible as a sixteen years-old, xDD I don't know, I think that Lois is flawed but in a way that makes sense. She's a go getter, but she's reckless, she's decisive, but she's stubborn, she wants to help people, but she is too quick to decide who is a good person and who isn't, she doesn't take no for an answer... and that is both a good thing (she doesn't stop trying to help Amani even when she's told to) and a bad thing (she keeps trying to figure out who Smallvilleguy is). I think that the way she interacts with her friends makes sense, because she never had any! She's used to only think about herself and what /she/ needs, so she is a bit self-centered and ignores them for the big mystery, but she's also very scared of them not liking her so she keeps trying to get on their good side (her obsesive attention to Maddy and what she thinks she wants to hear). She should treat Clark better, tho, because yeah, I get her point of "I don't know who you really are and you could be lying to me" but at this point she has already taken that risk, she needs to stop trying to pry. But again, she's a stubborn girl who can't take no for an asnwer ;)
Those are good points IF the book acknowledged them as flaws whereas shes treated as always write the real mark of a mary sue isnt that they never mess up but the story says even when theyre wrong theyre right
I'm invested in this trainwreck now and I hope it continues. Also if looking at books about comicbook heroes sticks around, I hope you give the Nemesis series a try.
It’s been years since I’ve thought about these books, but I liked them well enough at the time. I remember wishing they weren’t so sci-fi and Clark didn’t play so big or any role. I didn’t remember her being all that mean. Maybe they eased up on that in 2/3… It’s hard to bring myself to criticize them when for a long time I wanted something more Lois focused (maybe something more noir-ish and straight up mystery) and when they finally came these imperfect books were what I had to settle for.
Where does Lucy Lane fits in in this story? Lois was supossed to be a kind of mother figure to her as their mother passed away when the two sisters were very small.🤔
I never bought that the intent behind the title Superman's Girlfriend was sexist. They just wanted to feature Superman's name on the cover because it helped sell the book. Jimmy Olsen, a male character, also had Superman's Pal on his title. While DC never put a man's name on Wonder Woman's title.
For me its intention of the writers. Lois went from this empowering figure in the golden age showing woman could have whatever job they wanted and do it well to a parody of a career woman who just needed to do what women should and marry as well as a nagging woman trying to tie clark diwn. I know there is more context there, like the romance having tge adults act like kids hence the pettiness, but honestly those undertones prevented me from getting enjoyment the way people like Sasha do.
"Wire tapping laws" can vary from state to state. In Michigan, for example, you can record any conversation you're even slightly a part of without informing anyone else who is a part of that conversation.
I haven’t read the book but from your description it does sound spot on for how Lois often is written in the comics, shows and films - impervious to criticism, always right (in story), kind of mean, and manipulative. From how you described it it sounds like how she treats “Smallville Guy” is how she treats Clark Kent when she’s doesn’t know his secret identity in most continuities. A Lois Lane novel where she’s in high school or university, solving mysteries and making her way as a journalist sounds like something I’d love but this sounds messy and not much fun.
As you were talking about some women liking making their characters sexy I was literally putting together a new glamour in ffxiv that's definitely not terribly covered up lol I just think that if I'm saving the world I should be cute while doing it if I'm given the option :p
they had whole set of non comic book YA novels written set in the DC universe there is also a one centered around superman batman catwoman and wonderwoman
In my own alternate head canon Lois always carried a pair of scissors in her bag, and a random search would have her carted off to the principal's office despite her protestations that "one of these guys is an alien with indestructible hair" would go ignored over the more plausible "junior psychotic" label. I'm joking. Too select a sampling of her silver age appearances.
another missed plot could’ve been Lois’ father being involved with the psychic military experiments leaving Lois questioning whether to expose him or keep it to herself
Especially since it's always been a thing in the comics that she doesn't remotely see eye to eye with him and has very, very mixed feelings on him. It's perfect for a Lois origin story, being that in the framework of comic books her father is basically one of her villains.
This is the most misandrist hijacking of Louis Lane I ever heard. She seems incredibly entitled because she knows that she had good intentions, even making assumptions of others.
Honestly the description of that MMO sounds like Star wars galaxies. That game was a real mess. You really could do whatever you want from being a bounty hunter to just farming.
This really really feels like one of those books where author is either living their fantasy or writing a generic YA while trying to shove it into a DC skin.
I have absolutely no idea how you are capable of such a disgustingly superb analysis of this book and the comics you talk about. You are a gem in this world. Can’t wait to see what you do over time. I’m subscribed cause I’m all in and impressed.
I'm thinking there's a wig like that 50's Lois do waiting for Sasha, along with a green minidress, matching boots and a yellow cape. Watcha waitin' for?
An immediate change I can think of for the Warheads is to make them technopaths rather than telepaths. That'd give you that 'authority figures can't figure out cyberbullying' angle while not actually having to change anything else about them, because control over tech in a modern world is still really far-reaching and terrifying. When I find it that easy to punch something up, I wonder why nobody involved in writing the thing did...
another great video! your insights about what makes a good story and interesting characters is spot on. thanks so much for everything you do, you absolutely rock!
Lois being a crappy speller is a holdover from the 78 Donner movie and one of my favorite LL character traits (It also reminds me of my late mom who, while pretty smart, was one of the worst spellers I ever met!).
This story somehow feels like a preteen writing a bad interpretation of high school or college, but also feels like a 50 year old writing a bad interpretation of modern technology. It’s like a bad Disney Channel original movie. Plus Lois is a Mary Sue, personally, I don’t like it
Wish you talked more about the tv shows like u did with the supergirl marriage episode Sasha you talk a lot about comics but I haven’t ever seen you talk about the power rangers comics @casuallycomics
The JMS story where Supes and Lois disagreeing about dissolving a company that employs a entire town, was interesting. Allowing fot change after past behavior was handled.
@@CasuallyComics oh u replied dope Did you know the marvel animated universe on Disney xd got their own comics could you talk about those please hope u see this @CasuallyComics
If I were being generous, I would say that Lois’ poor spelling was a feature of Superman: The Movie. So her Cause being able to spell real good is a nice touch.
I haven’t read the dc young adult novel books but whenever Sasha goes to mention how the teen characters are acting like or how lazy or incompetent the school system is I just went “yeah that sounds like one of the multiple schools I went to”
Ok, the very unbalanced “My Way or the Highway” interpretation of Lois was starting to get to me, but the very idea of making Clark a hacker caused me to bust out laughing.
It would be kinda funny if Clark had some Kryptonian autohacking widget from his father's legacy that was so advanced it could annihilate any Earth security without the user even having to know what they were doing. So everyone assumes he's some genius hacker, but he's essentially a script kiddie with REALLY GOOD SCRIPTS.
It would be hilarious if the widget, by Kryptonian standards, was equivalent to a garage opener.
I mean everyone has a much greater understanding of how computers and stuff work even back in 2015 so the sorta “mad skills hacker” trope became just impossible to take seriously at some point… doesn’t help that he’s a kid raised on a farm.
MJ is her own character, too. She's not just Peter's girlfriend. She was a model, a loving wife, she could hold her own, especially in the Michelinie run. He made me really like her. I feel like non-comic readers get these simplistic views of these characters and, when a few people criticize them, the comic company feels the need to push this girlboss message and change a character that didn't need to change.
Sasha also very lovingly highlighted how and why Mary Jane is so popular and what made her a fan favorite in the comics when she arrived in her Gwen Stacy retrospective video.
It’s SO refreshing to see more and more people realize there’s more to her character than: she’s Peter’s love interest. There’s so much more to her, and to Lois and the other girls too.
I agree, but in the case of Lois was always kind of a girlboss? Even in her first few appearances, she was career-obsessed, mocked Clark for being a wimp and only agreed to dates out of pity, and hated being stuck to the "puff pieces" section of the magazine. She constantly did things like tagging along on Clark assignments in order to get some real cases, like the boys. She sweetened on Clark after the release of the movie "My Girl Friday," which clearly impressed the writers of the time. But it's only in the 50s that she became more of the marriage-obsessed "Superman's girlfriend." But in the Golden Age, she was very much what we would term "girlboss."
@@alexandredesbiens-brassard9109 "His Girl Friday". 😊
I find it hilarious how Stan Lee's attempts to make MJ uninteresting and unavailable to shippers had the opposite effect and made her a more rounded character.
in mj's case it doesnt help the perspective when so much editorial and writer hate for their marriage seeps into the writing
Why would anyone buy their kid a video game setup that could physically hurt them? There's enough misinformation about "video games cause mass shootings" that a game that simulates impact trauma from bullets would never get past the pearl clutchers. It's not just negligent, it's abusive.
Yes! If people want to feel pain in a shooting game, they play paintball! But the science of how a VR game would hurt you without a physical way to hit you are mad science. Not commercial grade stuff.
@@tomorrow4eva Honestly, that whole thing with the VR set sounded like SAO when I heard it.
@@aaronkelly1762 same I just thought…so sword art online vanilla before sword art
I’m guessing the writer had a kid who watched SAO when it came out a couple years before or something. That did the vr mmo approach and had the “you die in the game, you die in real life” part. And SAO was pretty popular when it came out even if it wasn’t all praise.
Can we stop having YA novels that rip off SAO? It's like the Twilight to Fifty Shades effect but worse.
Wow, and here i expected first Lois YA book to be titled "I'm not Superman's Girlfriend Lois Lane" now that's how you subvert expectation.
I want a YA green lantern series now call Why would Hal Jordan Do This?
That needs to be a memoir lol
@@CasuallyComics hope u see my comments
@@eraticate6929 😂😂😂
@@CasuallyComics I agree. It could go right next to Donna Troy's memoir: "Your Guess is as Good as Mine".
The "internet boyfriend from Smallville" would be way more interesting if we're left to assume that's it's Clark, but at the end we learn it's Lex. We assume his caginess is Clark trying to hide his super-identity or whatever, but really it's Lex just exercising his normal amount of paranoia.
Or what if its not a boy at all but actually Lana. That could be an interesting relationship.
Ooooooo my nigga that is good shit.
good plot twist
That could actually be really cool honestly.
If "Smallville" was Lex, you know the author would have given it away by having him mention his hair
Also-comment from a non-comics fan family member who overheard this vid: “Is that Wig Woman?” 🤣
Lmao that makes me sound like a Tick villain, and I love it.
@@CasuallyComics Then you’ll love (and I swear by Grabthar’s Hammer this is an actual song), Wig by the B52’s.
Also: oh no! Secretly Wig Woman!?! You’ve been found out! Now somebody’s gonna have to cast a spell, and there goes the Multiverse!
@@CasuallyComics _"Give it up Wig Woman, your follicle festive follies are done and your gang is split, frizz into the moist humidity of JUSTICE!!"_
Reading question:
If bullying is bad, why is Lois Lane bullying both James and Clark Kent?
Is bullying good if it's done for the sake of "Great Justice"?
Who determines what constitutes "Great Justice"?
Me brain ze gonna go boom with too much philosophy
Its a YA novel, were you expecting nuance or a consistent coherent theme or main characters that aren't hypocrites and just as awful people as their antagonists?
@@vullord666 What, you mean like The Outsiders?
Clearly the captain from Zero Wing. Now MOVE ZIG!
Sounds like the kind of story in which an action is good or bad depending on whether the person performing it is inherently good or bad rather than the other way around.
Lois: "I'm going to fight bullying."
Also Lois: Bullies the hell out of James.
But it's OK because his rich
Also Also Lois: Ignores the signs her sister's a cyberbully.
I'm confused. As someone who comes from a military family, l don't understand her dislike of "rich" people. Her dad is a general seemingly working in special projects. They're not poor by any means.
I think it can be explained by "bad writing".
Maybe her father is from a poor background who worked his way up through the ranks and still thinks of himself as poor even though he isn't any more?
@@johnpotts8308 then you haven't read a lot of comics with general Sam Lane in it. In nearly every version the man is a tool and he has no problem spending money. 😆
@@7woundsfist I've read enough comics to know that tertiary characters have wildly inconsistent characterisations. Who knows the backstory of Sam Lane in this continuity!?
She hates rich people cause the author does
Immediately, the detailed description of Lois’s outfit gives me Wattpad vibes. Less is more when it comes to character descriptions. I don’t know, does that appeal to teen girls?
Dunno about teen girls, but I enjoy costume descriptions - if they're done well. It can help set the scene and describe personality, without just telling you a checklist of things.
I do enjoy costuming and behind the scenes stuff, tho
When it's done badly, you gett Wattpad vibes. That's usually because it's just a list of what they're wearing, instead of how that interacts with the characters and scene.
i. e. - "I was wearing ripped jeans and a pink cropped cami with lace at the bottom, with an oversized hoodie when I saw him on that cold afternoon.
VS
The temperature had dropped unexpectedly, and it was cutting through the holes in my jeans. I wrapped my old comfort hoodie around me a little tighter, trying to offset the chill, as I waited for the bus.
The lace on the bottom of my shirt was scratching my stomach, and I was grimacing pretty hard by the time I realized I was blankly staring at the guy across the street.
@@Ashen.Elixer I'll admit I was getting sucked into the better description and wanted more. I'll have to save this as an example for people.
@@Ashen.Elixer Your example is great because it tells us more about the character than JUST what they’re wearing. It tells the reader what sort of attitude the character has going into the scene, tells us how they view themselves, and tells us what environment they’re in. The discomfort of the lace, for example, reflects the awkwardness the character is feeling. If she had a different attitude, she might feel like she’s caught the guy glancing at her flirtatiously and the itch of the lace and the chill of the wind on the exposed parts of her legs might be drawing her back to reality from a dreamy state.
Well, not necessarily. It depends on what you're writing and the character the themselves. Really as long as its relevant to the strong and establishing the character you can be as detailed with the outfit. For example, if you're writing a business man and they're in the office wearing a red flannel Hawaiian shirt, polka dot bowling shoes, parachute paints, and a yellow fez, all of that is pretty significant. Its a major contrast with the environment (office) and occupation (businessman) and raises a lot of questions that deal with the character's personality, current situation, and role. However, if you're writing a businessman and they're wearing a black suit and red tie, brown slacks, and dress shoes, you can probably stop at black suit (or even just "businessman" as that's probably exactly what people picture). Maybe spend one line on a little detail about their suit being pressed a little too perfectly or something (which would hint at them being a neat freak). You're looking for descriptions that advance the character or plot (or both). It is true that if, the description is doing neither its worthless and wastes readers time, but as long as its accomplishing something, its fine.
I don’t know if it appeals, but my brain automatically assumes the writer is a teenage girl when it encounters a detailed list of a carefully curated outfit.
So one thing that's sticking in my head is with Clark and the video game. It makes the person feel real pain. So here we have someone who is essentially invincible suddenly feeling pain for the first time in years. He also has super strength and speed, and may react in a way that would disrupt the VR headset. And suddenly severing the connection is very disorienting... This doesn't sound like a good combination for the Kent family house.
Describing the World Wars III game reminds me of all the "Trapped in an MMO" Issekai anime. I was not expecting this book to become Lois Art Online.
I see Capt and Iron man are still sorting out their beef in the background.
They're just waiting for the other to initiate a kiss, because they're both too shy to start
“She’s a prop for Lois in this story. She’s more Lois’ cause more than her friend.”
I’m wheezing! That such an accurate description of how some people treat me! 🤣♿️😉
So Clark Kent catfishing Louis Lane 100% sounds like a silver age story. If silver age Superman had the internet you know he would have catfished Louis Lane probably more than once
He still has to pay for batman's computer so i cant blame him
@@valletas on a reporter's salary no less
I want to know more about Lucy's unicorn gang. Sounds way more interesting than the main plot.
Just the two scenes you gave us were hilarious and full of character growth (Lucy went from resenting the game to becoming a tyrant in it).
I read the first of these when it came out, and was a bit underwhelmed. It just felt very low effort and generic to me. And I agree that the narrowminded way of writing Lois as always right when instead her behavior could be read as interestingly flawed was obnoxious.
I've always felt that a younger hero especially, whether a guy or gal, should always have some flaw at some point (not necessarily moral flaws, but naivety or misjudgment due to lack of experience are big for character development). The always perfect/always right character is just unrealistic and lame. This is why the original 60s Supergirl actually is very fun to read, she's a young heroine who has to sometimes adjust strategies quickly because her original one backfires spectacularly or simply doesn't work. And when Superman gives her advice, she doesn't see it as "mansplaining" (or whatever the feminists call it), she takes it as usually wise guidance from a more experienced family member and hero. Writing has sadly gone down in quality massively in recent years.
"She wants to right injustices and seek the truth." Yes, that's part of who Lois is. But She's also kind of an awful person when left to her own devices, running roughshod over anybody and anything who stands in her way. She's blunt, manipulative, cruel, and thinks rules don't apply to her. It's my opinion that, without the influence of Clark (both as himself and as Superman), Lois would become the stereotype of all the worst traits of fictional journalists.
Being an author, I can tell you that usually agents and publishers like series - so this was likely a 3 book contract deal. That way they can write the storylines over the three books without worry of being canceled.... usually. ;)
That is interesting know thank you
With all the "reveal your identity to me" angle of the chats in the story I imagined Lois calling MTV's Catfish on Clark.
If the vibe I get from this is at all accurate, it sounds like that would be absolutely in character for Lois. And when that exposes him as Superman, she wouldn’t feel guilty and the narrative would still treat her as in the right.
The Smallville thing really bugs me, if it was that she didn't know who Smallville was and it turned out to be anyone other than Clark Kent would be interesting (like Pete Ross), but if it is Clark why oh why would he use the name of the very small town where he lives? Also has Clark made Lois his side chick or are Lana and him not a thing in these books? It is very weird how these types of stories retroactively want to make it that the female in the OTP has always been faithful to their endgame, even before they met. It was dumb when Marge's first kiss was with Homer, and it's dumb here.
Lana and Clark could have broken up at that point.
to be fair on the Smallville thing in some versions of their first meeting when Clark tells Lois he's from a place called Smallville she thinks he's joking because that name sounds ridiculous
This is the guy who calls himself superman. Creative names are not his strong suit
@@gunfighter009
To be fair it's Lois who names him Superman half the time
@@mikemorro140 I think Lois generally names him Superman. I could be wrong though.
I love the way you are showing clips of James from Team Rocket as a fill in for the James in this book.
I saw this book at the library and I picked it up because I love Lois but when I got to the detailed outfit description and then the “spit in his coffee” moment I went “oh no” and put it back
This is the problem with activism in media today. I'm actually happy to have progressive messages in our media. I would like very much for even more properties to tackle social justice narratives and confront and examine the central issues we still face. In order to do that effectively, media companies need to find writers who are interested in talking about those issues. Instead, they keep hiring activists who claim to be able to write, but actually know nothing about the medium they've decided "needs their voice". Because they see media itself as nothing more than a vehicle for their message, the story itself and characters tend to be underdeveloped and incoherent. Worse, because of the particular philosophy of thought that dominates a lot of these activists, they see morality as being defined by social groups, rather than being universal. Something is morally good or bad, depending on who is doing and to whom it is done. The exact same action is deemed as morale, based entirely on the group identity of the participants, rather than any universal sense of right and wrong. As a result of this, the protagonists of their work are frequently horrible people who treat others like shit. The author just doesn't realize this, because all of the shitty behaviors are directed at people whose group identity is not currently seen as oppressed, and thus is a fair game target.
This particular moral framework has really strange consequences in the real world. As a black man, whether or not I am experiencing underserved advantages, or finally getting justice is based entirely on the observer's perception of my benefactor's intent. If they are giving me an advantage because I am black, then it's social justice. If they are giving me an advantage because I am a man, then it's patriarchy. The idea that I'm simply receiving what I have objectively earned is not even an option to consider within this framework. All that matters is the perceived intent of the person "giving" me something.
My issue with some activism is it seems those doing it forget those on the other side are people. I am reading the batman arc the cowardly lot and in that a villain, miracle molly sees no problem stealing from the rich since "they had it coming". Bruce keeps pointing out the human element saying things like "so since they are rich they arent people?". This evenutally leads molly to go "Iknew you were rich!" And not think he had points. Im just saying some, keyword some, activists get like that. I am also autistic so maybe I am missing nuance. If so please enlighten me. Not nessarily good people nonthless. This goes for the group they are trying to help and neutral parties sonestimes too.
I understand that many times they are fighting bigger picture things like institutions, cultural values and that plently of individuals knowingly and unknowingly get involved but forgetting their humanity just seems like a bad, if accidebtal step.
@@gregcourtney751 your point makes sense
I agree heavily with both of you guys.
@@gregcourtney751 I think you nailed it
For some reason "Take THAT Racquetball!" made me laugh so hard!
Hey Raquetball had it coming. Its had it too good for too long!
I feel awful in thinking this when reading author's interview about how they were so excited in writing this, and how this is what they think what cool and progressive means...but it always either ends up too cringy or the protagonist just end up being jerks, or the story is just bland. I always wondered if it was just me not getting it or what. It always makes me sad though, because it leaves me with disappointment when I just wanted good content of the character.
I love when you review non comicbook comic media. Whether that be Livewire in TV shows or Lois Lane in this young adult novel.
Clark Kent, boy raised on a farm in Kansas… hacker, gamer, and general computer guy?
Just don’t feel right
I’m not saying he shouldn’t know what a computer is or be bad at using one, but he shouldn’t be an expert either
I think I vaguely remember reading some of this book. I sort of remember waiting for the shoe to drop and reveal that whilst well intentioned some of Lois' assumptions & actions were very iffy and that to prompt some soul-searching and growth.
That would have been nice
I hope the Daily Planet has unconscious bias training, because Lois really needs it.
That cover doesn't really say Lois Lane from the pages of Superman to me. It could be any old Lois Lane. It could do with a photo cover. But I guess, even though Amy Adams would be possible as this is between 2013 and 2016, that's not really something they'd have gone for since she wasn't high school Lois.
There was an original novel based on Lois and Clark: the new adventures of Superman. Which did have a photo cover of Dean Cain and Terri Hatcher. Written by award winning Science fiction and fantasy writer CJ Cherryh. No idea where my copy is, but I remember it being perfectly in keeping with the style of the show. And it was economically paced at about 230 pages. Worth checking out if you can find.
Talking of finding things: did you get the action figure in the end?
No lol but I found silver age Jimmy Olsen.
People like this Lois are the ones who slot themselves in as Commissars giving that "training."
Based on your description I can easily imagine why it's basically gone under the radar in the grand scheme of things.
So.No one in this book creative team thought that James treatment in this ANTI BULLYING book was a problem?
apparently it's fine for James to get bullied in this anti-bullying story because he comes from a rich family??
I love it when media gets videogames wrong.
This just makes me remember "Lois Lane and the Friendship Challenge" accept in that Lois being a jerk to her friends was an actual plot point, and they read Batman comics despite that Lois is around 10 years old in that book so Bruce should be about 15. So there shouldn't be a Batman yet.
Maybe Bruce got an early start?? Or he's older in that AU? IDK. The idea of a ten year old Lois reading about a 15 year old Batman is pretty amusing... I'm just imagining this super edgy emo version of Bruce.
Lois is probably the most famous non-super character from super hero comics🤔
I’m totally in for a Silver Age Omnibus of Lois ✌️
She's certainly up there, though May Parker and MJ can put in a bid over on the Marvel side, and Alfred Pennyworth has a good case in DC.
And there's also the wording quibble - non-powered heroes and villains aren't that uncommon in comics - Lex Luthor and Batman both compete in that arena - unless you count "I'm rich" as an actual superpower.
@@rmsgrey Those certainly would be her competition for that title, Indeed .
But none of them had their own self-titled continuing title like Lois.✌️
There won’t be an Aunt May omnibus (Well, I hope not).
…I’d say Batman and Luthor are definitely super-powered- Just supposedly not superhuman. 🤔✌️😎🙂
Their powers are far beyond any normal “real” people -
While Lois is very resourceful - But she’s not supposed to have powers like Black Widow or Cat Woman.
@@rmsgrey Not sure she is just 'up there' but she is number 1. She has headlined 2 shows (Lois & Clark. Superman & Lois) and has a major presence in all films with Superman in it (even both cuts of Justice League she is in it proportionate to Superman being awake) and that is just live action... plus she has married every male in the DC universe...
Number 2 is either Alfred or arguably Uncle Ben (that line is ubiquitous even among non-comic book fans)
Wait a sec. Lois Lane WAS Red Tornado at one time. In the 2012 Earth Two series. Why do I know this??
Ugh, tampering with people's food/drink like that is a major trigger for me...It's the very possibility (which could be done even if you don't treat someone badly, if they just don't like the way you look or something) that makes me hope for the day impartial robots take over all food service...
A Lois Lane YA book could be either excilent or cringe. Walking the line between the two is a hard job.
Cat Grant was lois lane's rival in Lois and Clark: The new adventures of superman
That show had a couple of love triangles cause Lois almost married full head of hair Lex lol
Professional Rivals Yes, Romantic Rivals Not Really…Because No Matter how Much Cat wanted to Hit It & Quit It, Clark was Laser Focused On Lois , even the Hot DA from season 2 Mason Drake really had no chance 🖖🏾
Let’s Not Forget the 3rd Triangle Lois, Clark,& Superman 🖖🏾
@@rodneylindsey849 The true superhero love triangle - the hero, his alter-ego, and his girlfriend.
So True , that’s why I Luv the line from Bruce in STAS World's Finest “ It’s Ironic You Know She Likes Bruce Wayne , & Superman, it’s the Other 2 Guys She’s Not Crazy About “ 🖖🏾
So they made a story intending for Lois to stand on her own without Superman there to save her?
And then make it a plot point that Superman regularly saves her, anyway?
I feel like one of these doesn't fit with the other.
Wow, I'm surprised I've never heard of this series. I remember when DC was heavily pushing its YA novels like Wonder Woman: Warbreaker and Catwoman: Soulstealer. Those were really pushed in YA spaces but I've never seen the Lois Lane series. In my experience, comic book IP novelizations specifically for a YA audience often fall flat. They're always just a little too cookie-cutter and formulaic for my taste but they do occasionally have their moments.
i feel like every one of the ya novels i heard about had some race based controversy and that was such a weird trend to me
I mean, they seem to be doing well considering how many they make. I honestly can't tell how good they are because I'm not the target audience.
@@phabiorules when it comes to corporate pushes like this they really dont actually need to be profitable for the people in charges egos to keep them going and as someone who reads a lot of ya they vary from poor to good nothing truly terrible or great
I’ve always loved Lois Lane. She’s one of my favorite characters and one of my earliest crushes. But I don’t see myself reading this novel. As you put it, “it’s a lot of a lot”.
....it took me ten minutes to notice plushie Steve and Tony fighting on the shelf.
The Squirrel Girl Novels are actually pretty fun if you ever want to check those out
You mean the graphic novels? They were good for the first few but go down hill after. Which is a shame as I liked the light hearted stuff if not the art style
This series seems to be acutely unaware of its trope behavior and stereotypes- as if it's trying too hard to be empowering and making a mockery of the attempt. rather than coming across as a hard edged seeker of truth, Lois comes off as a tri-hard SJW. I think the writer had good intentions but a horrible execution of the idea.
Here’s the thing, of course she won’t create “problems” for Lois, cuz the author is a psychopath who thinks Lois is right always, and is an avatar to say all the mean things the author wants to say. Of course everyone bends over backwards and the story portrays people who do nothing but vaguely upset her at a glance, as the problem
"Golly! He's so unexciting!"
Your words say one thing but your exclamation points say another.
Lois will finally get top billing?
LOIS and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman seems like she was getting top billing in 1993.
I'm kinda liking Maddy's t-shirt idea. Sounds like a fun way to mess with people. Also.. the MMO experiment sound very Sword Art Online (.. which predates this book by up to a decade or more)
Lois comes off as a "not like other girls" girl.
My mind went to "Karen".
@@D3wd20p not like the other karens
Perry White, in this, reminds me of newsroom producer Lou Grant when he first met Mary Richards: “You know what, kid? You’ve got spunk… I HATE spunk!”
I really enjoy the way you break down the writing and world-building in things like this. I'm addicted to writing-related material for not-yet-published reasons, and your take on these things is often more insightful than the more plodding approaches of people who talk about writing for a living (if in different enough ways to make that hard-to-justify comparison even weaker). I think there's something important about coming at it from the point of view of a reader, which you really work with in this context (even though your scripts show your own writing chops). But in any case, I value your perspective and thoughtfulness, and the impact it's has on my work so far. Thanks!
"We protect people, see what other people miss. We don't need anyone to look after us. Also, I'm completely insufferable. Aren't you?" Seriously, as much as I love all your Lois Lane Marries X videos, she really comes off as just the worst. Or maybe the 1960's writers on Superman's Girlfriend Lois Lane were the worst. And this YA book is also the worst.
I did really like Lois in Superman: the Animated series though. Maybe DC should make Paul Dini and Bruce Timm co-editors in chief, have another Crisis, and just start over.
It does sound like the issue is with the writers, not the character.
Eh, Dini and Timm have their own weird quirk as well. Like Batman having sex with Barbara Gordon (I think that one is mostly Timm). Whoever you put in charge, you need good editors to rein in their more bizarre ideas.
@@alexandredesbiens-brassard9109 Very true. Timm's Bruce/Batgirl obsession is just...strange. I guess at the end of the day there's only one Kevin Feige and DC doesn't have him. Which is good for me because I get a Moon Knight TV show.
Oh, Lois is totally a self-righteous jerk in this book. I still buy into it, because I, personally, was also terrible as a sixteen years-old, xDD
I don't know, I think that Lois is flawed but in a way that makes sense. She's a go getter, but she's reckless, she's decisive, but she's stubborn, she wants to help people, but she is too quick to decide who is a good person and who isn't, she doesn't take no for an answer... and that is both a good thing (she doesn't stop trying to help Amani even when she's told to) and a bad thing (she keeps trying to figure out who Smallvilleguy is).
I think that the way she interacts with her friends makes sense, because she never had any! She's used to only think about herself and what /she/ needs, so she is a bit self-centered and ignores them for the big mystery, but she's also very scared of them not liking her so she keeps trying to get on their good side (her obsesive attention to Maddy and what she thinks she wants to hear). She should treat Clark better, tho, because yeah, I get her point of "I don't know who you really are and you could be lying to me" but at this point she has already taken that risk, she needs to stop trying to pry.
But again, she's a stubborn girl who can't take no for an asnwer ;)
Those are good points.
Those are good points IF the book acknowledged them as flaws whereas shes treated as always write the real mark of a mary sue isnt that they never mess up but the story says even when theyre wrong theyre right
I'm invested in this trainwreck now and I hope it continues.
Also if looking at books about comicbook heroes sticks around, I hope you give the Nemesis series a try.
THIS is why I subscribed to this channel. So I can learn more about comics and these hidden gems that I otherwise would have never heard of.
It’s been years since I’ve thought about these books, but I liked them well enough at the time. I remember wishing they weren’t so sci-fi and Clark didn’t play so big or any role. I didn’t remember her being all that mean. Maybe they eased up on that in 2/3…
It’s hard to bring myself to criticize them when for a long time I wanted something more Lois focused (maybe something more noir-ish and straight up mystery) and when they finally came these imperfect books were what I had to settle for.
that settling part definitely feels what most of these female side character focused media rely on
Where does Lucy Lane fits in in this story? Lois was supossed to be a kind of mother figure to her as their mother passed away when the two sisters were very small.🤔
"I'm worried about Lucy. I read Superman's Friend, Jimmy Olsen."😂🤣
I never bought that the intent behind the title Superman's Girlfriend was sexist. They just wanted to feature Superman's name on the cover because it helped sell the book. Jimmy Olsen, a male character, also had Superman's Pal on his title. While DC never put a man's name on Wonder Woman's title.
For me its intention of the writers. Lois went from this empowering figure in the golden age showing woman could have whatever job they wanted and do it well to a parody of a career woman who just needed to do what women should and marry as well as a nagging woman trying to tie clark diwn. I know there is more context there, like the romance having tge adults act like kids hence the pettiness, but honestly those undertones prevented me from getting enjoyment the way people like Sasha do.
"Wire tapping laws" can vary from state to state. In Michigan, for example, you can record any conversation you're even slightly a part of without informing anyone else who is a part of that conversation.
Yay! MORE LOIS LANE! This should be interesting.
Can you do a video on Cat Grant? She's a good character and probably one of the few things in the Supergirl CW show I liked.
Agree except for the few part
@@madnessarcade7447 as in you like more things in supergirl or you didn't like anything in supergirl?
@@matman329 I liked more things
@@matman329 I thought it was a unique and whimsical and charming and wholesome comfort show I’m sorry you didn’t feel that way
I haven’t read the book but from your description it does sound spot on for how Lois often is written in the comics, shows and films - impervious to criticism, always right (in story), kind of mean, and manipulative. From how you described it it sounds like how she treats “Smallville Guy” is how she treats Clark Kent when she’s doesn’t know his secret identity in most continuities. A Lois Lane novel where she’s in high school or university, solving mysteries and making her way as a journalist sounds like something I’d love but this sounds messy and not much fun.
James: they praying on my downfall 🙏
Please don't let Bond write anything ever again.
As you were talking about some women liking making their characters sexy I was literally putting together a new glamour in ffxiv that's definitely not terribly covered up lol
I just think that if I'm saving the world I should be cute while doing it if I'm given the option :p
Well this explains the DC superhero 2019 incarnation.
they had whole set of non comic book YA novels written set in the DC universe there is also a one centered around superman batman catwoman and wonderwoman
Wait! The friend's name is Enoby? As in Enoby Darkness Dementia Ravenway from My Immortal?
OMG you might be right on with that reference
In my own alternate head canon Lois always carried a pair of scissors in her bag, and a random search would have her carted off to the principal's office despite her protestations that "one of these guys is an alien with indestructible hair" would go ignored over the more plausible "junior psychotic" label.
I'm joking. Too select a sampling of her silver age appearances.
another missed plot could’ve been Lois’ father being involved with the psychic military experiments leaving Lois questioning whether to expose him or keep it to herself
Especially since it's always been a thing in the comics that she doesn't remotely see eye to eye with him and has very, very mixed feelings on him. It's perfect for a Lois origin story, being that in the framework of comic books her father is basically one of her villains.
But that's to do with the wellbeing of a man, we don't believe in helping men in a girlboss novel
thanks for the different prospective you've brought to me on comics since i found the page
This is the most misandrist hijacking of Louis Lane I ever heard. She seems incredibly entitled because she knows that she had good intentions, even making assumptions of others.
OMG I stumbled on this yesterday too!
Sasha: One of the commenters said she looked like she was Red Tornado...
Me: (Has flashbacks to the Earth-2 series) Uhm...
YES! Been looking forward to this
19:28, that's a fantastic new level of poseur: to wear T-shirts for bands so obscure they don't even exist.
Honestly the description of that MMO sounds like Star wars galaxies. That game was a real mess. You really could do whatever you want from being a bounty hunter to just farming.
This really really feels like one of those books where author is either living their fantasy or writing a generic YA while trying to shove it into a DC skin.
I have absolutely no idea how you are capable of such a disgustingly superb analysis of this book and the comics you talk about. You are a gem in this world. Can’t wait to see what you do over time. I’m subscribed cause I’m all in and impressed.
I never, EVER want to read these books! But I want you to so I can find out what happens to Maddy.
I'm thinking there's a wig like that 50's Lois do waiting for Sasha, along with a green minidress, matching boots and a yellow cape. Watcha waitin' for?
A bullying unicorn gang? I need to see that in comic-form!
An immediate change I can think of for the Warheads is to make them technopaths rather than telepaths. That'd give you that 'authority figures can't figure out cyberbullying' angle while not actually having to change anything else about them, because control over tech in a modern world is still really far-reaching and terrifying.
When I find it that easy to punch something up, I wonder why nobody involved in writing the thing did...
I love this idea!
Part of it is because technopathy just isnt utilized a lot i can only think of one nonmachine enemy with it
another great video! your insights about what makes a good story and interesting characters is spot on. thanks so much for everything you do, you absolutely rock!
Lois being a crappy speller is a holdover from the 78 Donner movie and one of my favorite LL character traits (It also reminds me of my late mom who, while pretty smart, was one of the worst spellers I ever met!).
This story somehow feels like a preteen writing a bad interpretation of high school or college, but also feels like a 50 year old writing a bad interpretation of modern technology. It’s like a bad Disney Channel original movie. Plus Lois is a Mary Sue, personally, I don’t like it
15:16 this totally sounds like Sword Art Online, which raises the exact same questions
Descriptions of clothing, followed by a girl named Enoby. Am I the only one getting "My Immortal" vibes?
Wish you talked more about the tv shows like u did with the supergirl marriage episode
Sasha you talk a lot about comics but I haven’t ever seen you talk about the power rangers comics @casuallycomics
I think she mentioned that some stuffs like Power Ranger and Transformer are more her brother's thing.
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The JMS story where Supes and Lois disagreeing about dissolving a company that employs a entire town, was interesting. Allowing fot change after past behavior was handled.
I love your reviews. Please do the others I don't want to read them but I enjoy your analysis
17:21 "It was me Barry!"
Ahh But Chloe S. was developed as a Lois stand-in for Smallville.
It all comes full circle lol
Was Chloe ever introduced into the comics she was in the arrowverse by mention
She was, she was one of Jimmy's exes in the mainverse pre new 52.
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Did you know the marvel animated universe on Disney xd got their own comics could you talk about those please hope u see this @CasuallyComics
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I am really enjoy your channel, your topics, and your personality…keep it up!
So Lois was a Veronica Mars when she was a kid?
40 minutes of Casually Comics? Say less
If I were being generous, I would say that Lois’ poor spelling was a feature of Superman: The Movie. So her Cause being able to spell real good is a nice touch.
Also in the animated movie and most of the few comics I've read. Probably all from the movie, though!
I haven’t read the dc young adult novel books but whenever Sasha goes to mention how the teen characters are acting like or how lazy or incompetent the school system is I just went “yeah that sounds like one of the multiple schools I went to”