Buyer Beware ▶ Nioh
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- Today I talk about my experience and thoughts on the "Last chance trial" for Nioh.
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I don't think people realize you don't choose a stance, you switch between all stances during combat and you need to learn each ones moveset. Once you learn that you're pretty much unstoppable. I love it.
I just played high stance at all times and managed fine. Got the skills to make high stance better and the steel and protection onmyo magic and I was set!
I use High for larger slower enemies, Low for 1v2/3, and Mid for 1v1. Worked out for me really well.
with spears you can just ignore the nioh combat system and kill everything with spacing and single hits xd
I think the idea is that while you may be able to just stick to one stance and do fine for the beta; the actual game will only get harder, put you in more strategically demanding situations, and force you switch up your playstyle. I tried every weapon class in the beta, and while there was nothing stopping me from just swinging my axe like a madman until I guard break the enemy, I know that there's no way that tactic is going to last past the first couple of stages (heck, that Tachibana cunt already threw that tactic down the shitter). I feel like the people that don't try to really learn the ins and outs of Nioh's combat are going to have a bad time when the game comes out.
agreed
I bet Capcom will attempt to make another Onimusha game, but Capcom will try to imitate Nioh and Dark Souls and fail miserably.
malbhet Capcom just needs to make Dragons Dogma 2 and they are good.
yep... the dark arisen DLC was really good.
I never said DD was bad, in fact it's my favorite ps3 game.Capcom today is not creating games that are as good as their past releases and as time passed, while capcom decided to focus more on dlc during that passed time, a lot of their better developers left the company, hell most of Capcom's top devs went to Platinum games. Now I doubt they will ever release another DD game, and will probably move to mobile if RE7 fails. The only franchise they have that's still doing great is MH, and that's the only game they have that I know is still being created and can look forward to.
that would make me sad....Onimusha Warlords was one of my favorite games on the PS2
malbhet Deep Down looks like Capcom attempt at Dark Souls style
new series boiz
ayyy
ohh shit indie and paragon are bros expecting a top ten rolling stones video for nioh
Indeimaus still waiting on top ten cliffs
Indeimaus The three seconds you spent on this comment could have been used fighting the Bloodborne DLC bosses for that video of yours.
top ten conniptions ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@ 1:50 - There is a hidden mechanic with this mimic. He actually doesn't want to fight, he wants you to play a game. If you give him time, it will perform a gesture. You can press the touch pad and mimic the same gesture, he will give you the items for free.
i never even figured this out until when i was in someone else's world, the host did the emote and i got the emote reward as well.
I think if you mess up he'll fight you.
@@davidsabillon5182 He throws a tantrum first to give you time to recover from the gesture.
Also gives you a gesture from that.
I fucking loved this demo and I am excited for the game. There isn't a great environment but the combat makes up for it. When you first start playing it's very tense and hard. I can't wait for the game
NursKul when is the release date
Ferdinand Cipcon 7th of February in Na, 8th in Europe and 9th in Japan.
but...you havent seen every environment =/
That's what I keep thinking, they call the game dark and ignore that it's a demo and the muneshige fight is in a bright field.
NursKul omg the combat,the music,co op,the stages and the bosses etc are so fucking good in nioh. its just a damn shame that they couldnt keep the alpha demo open 😭😭😭😭.
what made you think it was gonna be open world it had a level structure since the alpha
This is the first time I've played it/seen anything about it due to me wanting to experience my self for the first time.
you really missed out the first two demos had a lot more in them. and at least two levels each. i guess if you didst play them i see why you wouldn't have known. what did you think of the chain weapon which was the new weapon for this demo
get good I love the new reaper chain, that and the spear are my two favs
babies don't know ninja gaiden.
Dark Souls isn't the first game to be difficult. That's ninja gaiden.
You mean Shinobi or was it Kung-Fu Master...
super paperboy
artifical difficulty caused by technology limits and bad design choices(probably a result of said limits)
There were definitely other games that were difficult aside from just two series, In truth i don't understand why no once compares this game to the onimusha series.This series was quite difficult as well since you couldn't refill hp pots or buy them like either of those games and had to rely on either a hidden item or save shrines to heal.
Ghost and Ghouls lol
Let's be honest... Combat is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better than Souls series.
You can use low stance to quickly dash to your opponent's back than you can finish him off with a high stance combo! or you can be defensive with mid stance and hit&run until your opponent's ki depletes all the way and boom!
It's so much fun and refreshing compared to souls... since almost all the time you use same tactics in souls series.
note; I platinumed all the souls game, including Bloodborne and Demon's Souls.
You're right...with Souls you just put up your shield and wait for your enemy to strike then strafe behind em and backstab or attack over and over and over again. Dark Souls entices players to turtle up too much, which is boring..thats why they made that huge change with making Bloodborne.
Yeah go play dark souls 2 and 3. If you turtle up you're fucked.
One thing I also noticed is in Nioh armour actually makes a difference. Unlike in dark souls (especially dark souls 3 where armour does less than in bloodborne even). And with some axe skills that buff your defence a tank-like play style is possible.
+Agent Migs shields in darksouls are preety bad and make the game boring, don't use them
They do make the game boring in my opinion. Makes the game too defensively minded.
I've played the Last Chance Trial and I loved it. The enemies felt satisfying, the bosses were good and gave a decent challenge. The level design for the most part were fine. Like you said, some of the rooms feel bland. And I definitely agree with that. Hopefully Team Ninja will implement a bit of variety on those chest rooms. Other than that, I had a awesome time with this demo. Can't wait for its release on February 9th!
Dienyemite x it comes out on the 7th which is even better
Oh I thought it comes out on the 9 XD
+Dienyemite x well depends where you are from actually. 7th NA , 8th Europe, 9th Japan.
To me this as more in common with Onimusha than DS.
Ca11mero Exactly.
Ca11mero Yay!
The comparison to Onimusha is superficial, while the list of mechanics that are borrowed directly from DS is actually fairly staggering once you start going through it. I'm totally cool with it, as I'd love souls-likes to become a new genre like rogue-likes, but people really seem to be fooling themselves when try say it's totally different. This is the single most Souls-like product ever produced by anyone outside of From Software.
the comparison is not superficial, because dark souls takes alot from onimusha as well, maybe not from the sequels, but the original onimusha was basically resident evil with samurai swords.
The list of similarities in gameplay between Nioh and Dark Souls is staggeringly huge, with more mechanics being the same than are different. Onimusha comparisons are quite a stretch once you get past Samurai, Nobunaga, and Yokai.
Weapons in this game are amazing the Kiszarigama (butchered the name the chain sickle weapon) freaking melts everything especially yokai/demons.
They really need to add ninja weapons and skills in the game like the Tachi, the shortsword which lets you be much more maneuverable like a ninja. You have a dual sword that has a long and short sword, but the tachi alone is for the one handed reverse grip, with hand to hand combo mixed in (punching, kicking, and slashing).
Not to mention there are authentic 'Japanese' ninja weapons that utilizes claws.
The Kusarigama (chain/sickle/weight) weapon IS actually a shinobi weapon, created as an all purpose weapon for fighting samurai, climbing, and especially for disarming opponents extremely quickly. As for the Tachi shinobi short sword, it is in fact in the game.
+dra6o0n there's an entire ninja skill/weapon move set tree and both weapons are in the game. fucking nerd. lel.
The Kusarigama is the weapon tab with it's own skill sets for combo.
I'm talking about more weapon types. Ninja skills refer to combo and new moves that's activated in combat, not Ninjutsu items to equip and use.
For instance whilst you can unlock the Palm Grip move to grab and counter a enemy, it's the only move in the Ninjutsu tab, and does not contain stuff like iron claws, which are used in some Japanese samurai games, and the shortsword, which is not dual swords.
The reason why you have a shortsword, not a 'longsword' variant like the Katana, is because it's oriented into very close quarter combat in tight spaces, and is the main weapon of use of the Shinobis that focus on martial arts.
It's much lighter, so a Shinobi can leap and probably do flips with them, and maybe moonsault over enemies behind them.
A very good example is the gauntlet, whilst is a weapon and armor, the real weapon is the martial artists' body. The Gauntlet provides a way to block weapons and projectile, and with CQC in martial arts, you can utilize more grappling moves and more maneuverable dodges like side strafing to circle around a enemy without rolling or lunging in a straight line. This means up against the Yokai, the hand to hand combat methods would focus more on ki damage and stunning your enemies to critically finish them off. Not to mention it'll look cooler.
dra6o0n Could you be more of a weeaboo?
This game rocks, so glad I switched from Xbox to PS4.
Reminds me more of ninja gaiden, i really liked their old ninja gaiden. instant buy for me.
Wim Boeren Old Ninja Gaiden means NES games to me.
For me ninja gaiden black was the top. The nes version was top in frustration, combined with fun.
Wim Boeren If you practice the originals they're pretty manageable until the last levels. Except for the third game in which they doubled the damage taken in the US version. I say play the famicom version of 3.
good advice. thnx
I love the way you described the differences, beautifully put. I tip my hat to you sir
I agree with you on most of what you said. After playing the demo, I'm interested, but not hyped. The gameplay is great. I'd argue that Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne still have better game-feel due to animation and sound design that makes each swing of your weapon feel much more weighty than Nioh's, but on purely technical term it certainly offers a lot more depth and it's got me interested to play the full game.
Everything else was just kinda there.
On another purely technical note, the level design was pretty good as well. But yeah, like you said, in term of atmosphere... there's really nothing there. It feels very cramped, packed with challenge rather than packed with meaning. Even the samurai showdown at the end, while great looking, still feels so cramped ! Why couldn't it have been a larger field ? Instead it's another small room surrounded by rocks. It makes it far less impressive than it otherwise could have been.
The story also was presented in such an uninteresting manner. Super short audiologs. No emotion shines through such short length.
The only thing I'd disagree with you on is the loot system. To me it just looks like it'll force me into fiddling with menu so that a bunch of numbers are more beneficial to me but won't have any significant impact on the core gameplay. I hate menus in games, I don't play to sit around looking at a menu, comparing items as if I was selecting groceries. It's dull.
All in all, seems like a gameplay first, everything else secondary kind of experience. Which saddens me a bit, I'd want the whole package to be enthralling.
this demo turned me off...i liked the last one but this one sucked
i agree...
Peter Parker Yo, interesting.. Think you could elaborate? I havent played the other ones.
That sucks. I enjoyed it a lot. The map was rather bland true.
It's probably because the Ogress map is the newest and compared to the older ones, it wasn't exactly very expansive in the map space, the last two beta probably had a much bigger map, and more missions (like three) rather than 1 mission that had co-op.
The special unlock of this demo is Mark of the Warrior. Apparently it doesn't let you get the Mark of the Conquerer since that belongs to the earlier beta.
The second demo had an amazing level through a small village, with very little shrines and multiple shortcuts, in short amazing level design. Totally different than what we got this time.
"We need to stop comparing the two"
-He says as a mimic clone pops out of a chest. >.>
mimic chest are a common thing on RPG and JRPG, i think it came from Dungeons & Dragons, like 40 years ago
started watching your videos yesterday, and i have now watched almost all of them. You are definitely my favorite soulsborne youtube. Keep up the good work!
''see you in 3 weeks time when i release: 'Nioh: what went wrong' and i completely shit on the game'' can't wait for that video!!
yeah man whats with this guy
not that i am complaining
ofc not.
I have been a Souls fan since Demon Souls, played every game since then to include DLC and Bloodborne (platinumed all but DS2) and all I can say is I loved the NiOh Last Chance Trial. I've preordered the game for myself, my brother and a cousin and can't wait for it to come out.
In my opinion,this game is alot better than the souls games,especially the combat
Honestly I think it's going to be one of the best games ever made, and is going to review extremely, extremely well. I'm expecting 10/10 editor's choice awards from several websites.
Nioh has better combat than any souls game, including BB
No.
Afrika Rising Yes, yes it does.
Nathan Magnuson it does if you're into fast type combat.
Yeah Okay No, it is just better in general I think. Souls combat is good but the only really deep mechanics were generally exploit-tier
Nathan Magnuson nioh won't be be better then dark souls trust me... but in terms of combat I think it will be
Clear voice mate and nice channel here! Best of luck with it I don't own a PS4 though but your attention to detail spot on, nice to hear what fellow Brits think! Was a huge Onimusha fan and sadly those days are gone so I've been following it since it's Japanese announcement but everything you said I hope they see this or take on board this type of review and thought process. Most Japanese devs and publishers i know of really love Western input in this level of detail. 210 people cannot stand you are a genuine bloke and not being biased. A great shame for good channels out there you don't deserve a single dislike. Thanks for your time and thoughts!
never experienced any micro stuttering myself. and I played it a lot in the time we could! :o
The one thing i really loved with Nioh was the integration between melee weapons and long range weapons. Being able to fight melee and then back away, fire off a quick arrow and return to melee fighting. That was so much fun. And the fact that the sight doesn't follow the enemy, you have to follow them actively is great.
But no, this game did not remind me of Dark Souls. I can't see the similarities at all.
The only thing that is like Dark Souls in this game are the *Stat distribution & Shrines (bonfires)* and thats it. Best way to describe Nioh is.. Ninja Gaiden and Diablo 3 fell in love and had a baby they named Nioh.
1. It's like they gave steroids to Ninja Gaiden to up the difficulty
2. The loot system is very similar to Diablo 3 (see the loot on the ground and color coding). uncommon, common, rare ect ect.
3. Mission based so you can run them over and over to farm for gear and gold.
4. Crafting system for gear and weapons.
5. Reforging (swap stats for new stats to get the perfect weapon or armor).
6. Gear actualy does improve your char, and makes you feel you get stronger each time you find a upgrade.
Gaiden? That combat, movement and aesthetic looks more similar to Onimusha than Gaiden to me.
TheDutchMan83 nothing you described sounds compelling in a refreshing way...
TheDutchMan83 it's not harder than ninja giden, it's acually super easy once u get dodge pulse after the starting area
thank you for playing the music in the background the whole time hahahah its great
This game is utterly amazing.
I've played the alpha and the beta... its preordered since then. This game will be so good.
I'm just not a fan of ki pulse. It's like L canceling in melee and I feel its unnecessary.
You actually don't have to if you build your character to be lightweight, as ki usage increases the heavier you are. This punishes players that rely on heavy armor tanking by doubling or even tripling their ki usage if they don't invest in stamina for the weight management.
How is L canceling in melee unecessary. L canceling is litteraly the most useful techskill and is paramount for the game's meta. Without l canceling. A lot of moves would be useless on shield which would negate shield pressure, and would actually just be useless in most situation because your opponent could just tank the hit without crouch-canceling and get a punish on you.
Kappa Peperoni I'm saying its a useless addition solely there to make it harder
dra6o0n ah well I still have pretty limited knowledge of the game but I'll take that into consideration
No it's not here to make it harder, l-cancelling should be manual because it adds to the mind games. Sometimes people will shield laggy move in order to mess up the l canceling timing which allows for some heavy punishes. Also just the fact that you need timing is good, because it makes the skillcap higher. Maybe competitive games are not for you cause not every techskill (especially one that is the most important) shouldn't be done for you. Noobs who can't l cancel will lose against people who can.
warrior from the east boss... Fucking Tough as a ROCK !! but when you defeat him ... holy shit the feeling is AWESOME !
fantastic boss!!
enviroments look a bit bland and boring.
Stona Raptor He already stated and addressed that dipshit
Rain lol ok chill kid.
Don't cri Rain Boi ;-;
You wanna know why, that some rooms are plain..or bland...
well in Japan in our society..we admire simplicity..I came from and old traditional family and in my house..simplicity is key..even life it self..and I think this game may not be detailed or more furniture around..but. the answer is , in old Japan even today..space and simplicity is beauty..
That's cool and all.. but these are video games. Bland and forgettable aren't words that make sense in places that people spend their daily lives in and that's especially more true about video game words/concepts, making sense if used in real life.
I played this a lot over the weekend, yet I still don't know whether I really like it. It's definitely not what I was expecting what with all the "Samurai version of Dark Souls" hype it was receiving, so in that regard, I was rather disappointed. The combat is ok, but the difficulty feels artificial to me in that they've just given enemies way more health and have them do more damage, which makes it all seem a bit of a grind. Speaking of grind, I don't really like the loot aspect of the game - it's more like Diablo or Destiny, and I did end up finding myself having to grind over and over again for drops and "souls" to level up. I dunno man, went in expecting to love this, came out feeling kinda meh and let down.
I felt like the difference in damage between you and the enemies were too biased towards the enemies, why can basic guys two shot me even with health investment when my heaviest axe swing does maybe a 5th of their health?
I also felt that the boss was really badly designed, it's moves were near impossible to dodge due to their tracking and she was basically a damage sponge.
However to put some positives to Nioh so that I don't just bash it; I really like the button mapping more than in souls, I also felt the weapons were far more interesting (the Kusarigama was especially fun and I would love one in souls).
You're not alone man. I had every intention of buying this game day one and co-oping with my buddy who has joined me in Bloodborne and DS3. After playing through the demo, yesterday, I've come to think this game as cheap and not worth full price. It seems hard for the wrong reasons and overall easy. Animations suck and are clunky, the camera control is jerky, and the controls are not well thought out. I had no problems learning the controls, but the layout is inefficient. It just feels like a corridor simulator with gimmicky combat.
Dozerboy 1010 I think one of my big dislikes is the random loot drops and associated grinding involved with that. I end up with so much crap in my inventory that I'm supposed to deal with, but it's a hassle I don't want or need.
Lol, I don't know what you are talking about. You can beat the ogress without taking any hits. You have to hug her left side and dodge to the left when she does her swipe attack. Her jump attack is also dodgable by dodging behind her. Her flurry attack is also avoidable by using the sound queue to dodge. I also have no idea what you are talking about. Enemies have weak points like in bloodborne, if you hit them they take fuckton of damage and deplete their stamina which allows you to almost kill them. This isn't dark souls where you play slowly. You gotta combo them and deplete their stamina and take them out swiftly.
It just sounds like you aren't to good.
Yea I agree, the stances mechanic is pretty amazing, very unique indeed.
I think Nioh is better then darksouls in every way except environment cant wait for the full game
Kc Wright maybe not in lore or pvp or story...
Niohs beta had more story then Darksouls full game.
Kc Wright ok lol
It is better
And thats ur opinion dont worry though nobodys perfect
Comparing the Ki Burst to an Active Reload was my exact thought while playing. That's what made it click for me and helped me progress easier.
I really like this game. My only complaints are the world is bland and that Muneshige guy is artificial difficulty.
Go watch some videos of people taking him out with the wooden katana, lvl 1 naked, Most of them are able to beat him quite fast. Now tell me this is artifical difficulty again. If you are good, you can breeze through the game easily.
Kappa Peperoni yeah and people beat dark souls ng+7 Sl1. That doesn't mean it's easy it just means they are really good.
The Good Will good one. And I never said this is dark souls.
Elsteako The Great your just shit its ok man it happens to people like u youll never be good and think everything is artificial difficulty fucking idiot i parried every attk he threw at me hes easy but if u cant dodge cuz your ass then boom your fucked its ok tho youll never be good at this game its ok
Reminds me of the old Dark Souls 2 day when anyone wo struggled with the game were using the "artificial diffculty" excuse... I don't think it is, he's just hard, that's all. He destroyed a lot of time and didn't felt like spending my afternoon on him for nothing, but I didn't feel it was cheap difficulty, I was just inexperienced with the combat system.
I know an average game when i play one and its that without a question.
In terms of environments, the alpha and betas were FAR more impressive. This was a bland stage. Not sure why they put it up for the "last chance", after showcasing much better stages.
I'm just happy Team Ninja is back to making games again. I really want a Ninja Gaiden game that doesn't suck.
Hmm....This game isn't really doing it for me. I tried the first two demos, and it just wasn't fun to play. Its not the difficulty, nor lack of skill that's the problem. Its simply feels like I've played games like this that are far better designed and made. When I played my first Soulsborne game, Dark Souls, it immediately had me hooked. I loved the armor, the world, that gameplay. It was magic. But this game just left me feeling hollow. Like it was missing a soul of its own. Then again, most games that copy the "Soulsborne" formula are normally terrible. Except for "Salt and Sanctuary". That game nailed the feel of its predecessors, while also being its own thing. Sort of like how Saints Row nailed the GTA formula, but also did things exciting and new. But this game isn't that, and it seems like a mishmash of trying to be both Bloodborne and Demon/Dark Souls, and failing at both. I, personally, will pass on this one, and wait for another companies' attempt at this formula. Oh, and before the Fanboys or whatever start to rage at me: I'm not bashing the game in no way, fashion or form. This is just my feelings on the game and are in no way fact. If you like this game, that's you. Not me. So please, no torches or pitchforks.
DarthKato Well when you compare Nioh to the mediocrity of Dark Souls,I just tune out
vugibu oip I don't know if you are a troll, or just that stupid. I'm going with stupid.
vugibu oip I'm allergic to stupid people. I cannot help it.
+vugibu oip You really haven't played any souls game, have you?
DarthKato it's the same for me, looks good, but not enough to make me buy it. The thing that i always loved in Soulsborne series was that you could get everything by going in a specific place and not farming for it, hoping it's good, that completely turns me off, hope they change it in the final game, otherwise, i'll stick to dark souls 3
Really don't know why people are hesitant to compare games clearly inspired by Dark Souls to it. This is a Dark Souls clone, it wouldn't exist if DS hadn't existed, which is something I'd be fine with if it wasn't so bad and broken.
This game is just not sure what it wants to do mechanically. Dark Souls expects patience from players; use shields or roll until they find an opening to attack, and it works. Bloodborne wants players to be aggressive and nimble, use the Iframes of the dodges as their main offensive and defensive strategy. Lords of The Fallen wants players to be a tank and equip the heaviest gear they have and trade blows with the enemy. What does Nioh want from us? Dodging towards the enemy isn't reliable as there are very few Iframes, so unless you have super human reflexes you'll get smacked in at least 30% of the attempts following that strategy. Blocking is useless against the more powerful enemies as they eat up all your ki. Attacking doesn't stun-lock or stagger most of the bigger enemies, at least not with the weapons I used, so dishing out more than a couple of hits at a time is guaranteed to get you killed. The only viable "strategy" is to get some distance from the enemy, cheese a couple of hits in, then back up or run away like a bitch and repeat over and over again. Very fun.
The ki pulse regain system is an interesting game mechanic on paper, but it's dumb as fuck in practice. When finishing a combo you have to wait half a second to a second for you to be able to perform a ki pulse, during that time the enemy will be able to hit you so the obvious thing to do is dodge away which cancels out your ability to do a ki pulse, so why the fuck does the mechanic exist? You could use it when fighting the weaker enemies as they'll usually be stunned after a combo which gives you enough time, but why would I use it when they're easy enough to be killed without it? Try to use the ki pulse after hitting a boss or a tough enemy and you're dead.
If there's something I'm missing or I'm playing the game wrong then the devs need to get that across.
Pyramid Head exactly man, took the words from my mind. I really wanted to love this game but like you said the only viable option it seems is to wait until the enemy loses stamina then get a couple of hits in then run off. I really think they should delay the game and sort it, either that or release a patch that gives different modes of play, eg classic stamina as we're used to and do away with the stamina bars for the enemies. Doesn't have to be mandatory, just an option at the start of the game eg would you like to play the game in style A B or C.
Pyramid Head either i'm above average or you are not that good. At first the lack of s was upsetting me bu then i got used to it, and if you have patiencd you will master the game mechanics. Maybe i had fun because i didnt compare the game to dark souls.
And if o recall correctly demons souls wasnt a masterpiece when it came out. Dont expect every game that is souls like to be as good as Dark souls 1.
As much as I hate to say it, most of your points here are valid... The fact that dodging cancels you Ki pulse is immensely frustrating to me...
MafusiXCVII Ah, the expected "you're just not good enough" reply. I'm not complaining that the game is difficult -- if that was my problem I wouldn't fight soul of cinder in DS3 with a fucking broken straight sword in NG+4, lol. My problem is that the playstyle that the game requires is pathetic. I was bored playing the demo because It forced me to play a very defensive role. Deaths felt cheap unlike SoulsBorne games, and yes, I will compare it to Dark Souls since that's the game they've failed to copy.
I didn't expect this game to be as good as dark souls, I just wanted it to be a good game. Unfortunately it seems like it won't be if the beta is representative of the final game.
???????? how is this game defensive at all. To adress your point with the ki pulse, there is a skill that lets you use it while dodging. Also, I play fucking agressive and the game rewards me. Once you deplete your enemy's stamina you can stunlock them and kill them swiftly. Also, dodging behind enemies is usually a good tactic if you want to get 5 hits or even more.
I'm just not very drawn to the game in general... not a fan of the 'samurai-esque' theme and it does look a bit lifeless. But I am wanting to get some decent games in my PS4 library... still only got one game on it. xD
Is it bloodborne?
Actually no, it's Ratchet and Clank, came with the console. xD
I've been keeping an eye out for Bloodborne in stores, seeing where I can get it cheap.
Bloodborne is such a masterpiece that personally I would recommend buying it as soon as you can afford it whether it's cheaper or not, you'll get much more out of it than most modern games
Nice! I got it for a similar price in a January sale
We don't have Walmart in England. :( But I'll take you're advise; no point missing out on the game waiting to get it cheaper.
Loved the demo, combat (and AI) is awesome, loot (and crafting / upgrading via blacksmith) is awesome, player graves / ghosts dropping equipment they actually had on is awesome, finally beating a boss is awesome, 'hard mode' version of the mission was insane (different enemies + player ghosts automatically rising from graves!)... my one concern would be if there are enough areas (and variety in them) that it doesn't get repedative too quickly.
The level design looks kinda shit
puffwad It's honestly not.
The level design of the level in the alpha and beta was way better. The level in the demo was also very short.
What do you expect Japan to look like in the early 1600s?
^That's a very bad card to play when you're using magic and fighting demons with whack-a-mole hammers.
^Give that comment a bit more thought... it's as if you're trying to suggest that ancient Japanese folklore would be based somewhere other than ancient Japan...
You had me at "not an open world". Totally sold. Honestly, so sick of devs thinking open world automatically makes a game great and then padding it out with pointless busy work.
I have the most important question, can you be all sneaky beaky like or no?
TotallyCluelessGamer You can to an extent, more than Souls anyways, but if you alert enemies and try to run past them like souls, they follow you and kick the shit out of you no matter how far you run lol
NIOH GEAR!
TotallyCluelessGamer dont listen to him enemies will give up after a certain distance and you can literally be a ghost in this game if you want and backstab enemies all day long and vanish with a smoke bomb
Do I get to sneak around saying "NIOH GEAR!" in my best Solid Snake voice?
IT'S A WEAPON TO SURPASS METAL GEEEEEAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!
"Not fair to compare every third person action RPG to souls" We don't compare them all. Just the ones that blatantly are souls-like. Limited stamina, checkpoints you rest at, similar item usage, and whatnot are pretty souls-ey conventions at this point. I don't remember many people saying "Oh look, The Witcher. There's a Souls game!".
it's not really dark souls....hits chest.....mimic comes out
agreed. the thing I found missing is the storytelling in any shape or form. As far as I know (could be wrong) this game is more story driven than dark souls, yet I'm more engaged in the world of dark souls because of how good a job they do at world building. I don't want nioh to do the same, but I still have like no context for what I'm doing. But maybe that's because it's just a demo.
I tried getting into it but unlike dark souls most of my deaths didn't feel fair
You just need to get good bro, this is a different beast
Al Malone I have yet to get killed by a boss, the game is cake once u get dodge pulse
lets actually be fair- and this isn't only being compared because its an action rpg with bosses... Its compared because virtually alms every single concept is taken from dark souls, and then tweaked... just like lord of the fallen did. Just happens that this one is doing it better and more originally than lords of the fallen
just mad im plying a samurai white guy,most reason i wont buy it
Kazuki Katsuhito it's based off a real person he was an English man that was given the title of samurai by the shogun at the time.
William Adams (the MC in Nioh) was an actual historical figure. The first western samurai; the first englishman to reach Japan in the 1600's.
Kazuki Katsuhito This is the reason racism still exists... the fact that you won't play a unique title just because the color of someone's skin... it's pathetic.
what a pathetic reason
Obsidian Samurai...
Paragon, did did a great job on the review, but since you didn't play the beta I will tell you this. The Nioh Beta actually had fantastic level design akin to bloodborne, or even ds1 despite it not being open world. Also in the beta which was 10-15 hours of gameplay if you were doing everything I never felt the need to grind. Except maybe for healing, but they fixed that in this demo.
I bought the game and I honestly regret it. The combat is great and refreshing, it really brings something new to get used to. It is very hard at the start, but it will go easier as you go. What I did not like about this game is the boss design. Every boss fight is won by triggering an attack and hitting once or twice. The environment is not as exciting as the souls game. The loot system messes things up. I got a strong weapon at the start and it takes ages to find a stronger weapon so that means your whole inventory is full. If you like the souls game and are looking for a soul game, I would not recommend this one cuz you will get dissapointed in the long run. Good luck.
Nioh was great, but sometimes I felt like it tried too hard to be difficult just for the sake of being difficult.
The game is pretty cool, playing it reminds me of Onimusha back in the PS2 days also good vid man.
4:10 "Combat feel satisfying and never cheap. The majority of the battles you face are one on one". That sounds so good. Obviously, this is similar to Souls games. I hate how so many popular games just throw hordes of weak enemies at you. Then, the mechanics mainly boil down to button mashing. I played the alpha of this and it was very unpolished. I didn't really enjoy it all that much. Sadly, it didn't give the option to map the attack actions onto the shoulder buttons. I'm hoping this game scratches the souls itch I get once in a while.
the world needs more color imo.. I like the darkness of the game but just because things are dark doesn't mean everything has to be black, I could barley see anything when playing
In the alphas, there were other areas that had bright colors. It really depends on the stage.
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In 2054, North Korea has developed advanced technologies,
enabling them to turn the tide against South Korea. After a briefing,
United States Marine Corps Private and best friends Jack Mitchell (Troy
Baker) and Will Irons (Paul Telfer) take part in a massive drop shock
raid against the North Koreans in Seoul, under the command of Sergeant
Cormack (Russell Richardson). Will is killed in action after protecting
Mitchell, who has his left arm severed and is forced to be discharged
from military service. After attending Will's funeral, Mitchell is
offered a position in Atlas Corporation, the world's most powerful
private military contractor, by CEO Jonathan Irons (Kevin Spacey),
Will's father, and is also given an advanced prosthetic arm to replace
his lost one.
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for plane tickets for his mother to come to Hawaii. Evan's marriage and
finances, however, are under pressure as he spends more time working on
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In 2054, North Korea has developed advanced technologies,
enabling them to turn the tide against South Korea. After a briefing,
United States Marine Corps Private and best friends Jack Mitchell (Troy
Baker) and Will Irons (Paul Telfer) take part in a massive drop shock
raid against the North Koreans in Seoul, under the command of Sergeant
Cormack (Russell RichardsoThe game follows Sonic, Shadow, and Silver in a story intertwined in their respective gameplay modes.
In 2054, North Korea has developed advanced technologies,
enabling them to turn the tide against South Korea. After a briefing,
United States Marine Corps Private and best friends Jack Mitchell (Troy
Baker) and Will Irons (Paul Telfer) take part in a massive drop shock
raid against the North Koreans in Seoul, under the command of Sergeant
Cormack (Russell Richardson). Will is killed in action after protecting
Mitchell, who has his left arm severed and is forced to be discharged
from military service. After attending Will's funeral, Mitchell is
offered a position in Atlas Corporation, the world's most powerful
private military contractor, by CEO Jonathan Irons (Kevin Spacey),
Will's father, and is also given an advanced prosthetic arm to replace
his lost one.
In 1991, the escaped Richter tells his story to Evan in exchange
for plane tickets for his mother to come to Hawaii. Evan's marriage and
finances, however, are under pressure as he spends more time working on
his book, and the player must choose whether he abandons the book or his
family.
In the aftermath, Batman is presumed dead and is honored as a
hero. With Wayne also presumed dead, Wayne Manor becomes an orphanage,
and his remaining estate is left to Alfred. Fox discovers that Wayne had
fixed the Bat's autopilot and Gordon finds the Bat-Signal refurbished.
Alfred finds that Wayne is alive and well, together with Selina, while
visiting Florence. Blake resigns from the police force and, following
Wayne's instructions, discovers the Batcave and its contents.
Gameplay
The Slaughtering Grounds, like many other games from Mark Dice, is
presented as a co-operative first-person zombie survival horror game.
The Slaughtering Grounds, however, introduces many new elements never
before seen in a Mark Dice game.
Players can use abilities, such as Roman Reigns'
"Armored Vest", which grants immunity for up to 30 seconds, and
Tigerplanet's "3015", which can kill a large number of zombies within a
certain range, "banning them"
n). Will is killed in action after protecting
Mitchell, who has his left arm severed and is forced to be discharged
from military service. After attending Will's funeral, Mitchell is
offered a position in Atlas Corporation, the world's most powerful
private military contractor, by CEO Jonathan Irons (Kevin Spacey),
Will's father, and is also given an advanced prosthetic arm to replace
his lost one.
In 1991, the escaped Richter tells his story to Evan in exchange
for plane tickets for his mother to come to Hawaii. Evan's marriage and
finances, however, are under pressure as he spends more time working on
his book, and the player must choose whether he abandons the book or his
family.
In the aftermath, Batman is presumed dead and is honored as a
hero. With Wayne also presumed dead, Wayne Manor becomes an orphanage,
and his remaining estate is left to Alfred. Fox discovers that Wayne had
fixed the Bat's autopilot and Gordon finds the Bat-Signal refurbished.
Alfred finds that Wayne is alive and well, together with Selina, while
visiting Florence. Blake resigns from the police force and, following
Wayne's instructions, discovers the Batcave and its contents.
Gameplay
The Slaughtering Grounds, like many other games from Mark Dice, is
presented as a co-operative first-person zombie survival horror game.
The Slaughtering Grounds, however, introduces many new elements never
before seen in a Mark Dice game.
Players can use abilities, such as Roman Reigns'
"Armored Vest", which grants immunity for up to 30 seconds, and
Tigerplanet's "3015", which can kill a large number of zombies within a
certain range, "banning them"
e abandons the book or his
family.
In the aftermath, Batman is presumed dead and is honored as a
hero. With Wayne also presumed dead, Wayne Manor becomes an orphanage,
and his remaining estate is left to Alfred. Fox discovers that Wayne had
fixed the Bat's autopilot and Gordon finds the Bat-Signal refurbished.
Alfred finds that Wayne is alive and well, together with Selina, while
visiting Florence. Blake resigns from the police force and, following
Wayne's instructions, discovers the Batcave and its contents.
Gameplay
The Slaughtering Grounds, like many other games from Mark Dice, is
presented as a co-operative first-person zombie survival horror game.
The Slaughtering Grounds, however, introduces many new elements never
before seen in a Mark Dice game.
Players can use abilities, such as Roman Reigns'
"Armored Vest", which grants immunity for up to 30 seconds, and
Tigerplanet's "3015", which can kill a large number of zombies within a
certain range, "banning them"
What I didn‘t really like was that every weapon and piece of armor had to go through the weapon smith. It made especially the weapons less individual
Having played DS3, Bloodborne and Nioh, every game is good in their own way . But in terms of combat , Nioh is the best because there is so much depth and oh yes... there's refashioning and Soul Matching ( like Diablo 3) it's a very good feature of the game. In terms of Gameplay and atmosphere Bloodborne is the best out of all 3. The Victorian gothic setting and the tense atmosphere was amazing. I will never forget my first fight with the cleric beast
I think once people realize this isnt a game thats played like souls, they have more fun. Learn the ki recharge right away. invest in all the universal weapons skills first (especially the ki dodge recharge) and test out all four main weapons to find which weapon suits you best. You can respec after the second mission, so dont worry about misspending your levels.
The unoffical Onimusha game we deserve.
I just love that this game looks like Dark Souls had a baby with Onimusha instant buying this
they should've never let tomonobu itagaki leave
Wtf kind of wall decoration would you expect to see in 17th century Japan? They don't even decorate the walls in traditional buildings today... my immersion would of been ruined if there was suddenly a 50" plasma TV on the wall of a chest room.
Before he mention Ninja gaiden. I was going to mention it. Look exactly like it
I played the first two demos and have been hyped for this game since I got my hands on the first demo. My one want for an inclusion was my favorite weapon type to watch in martial arts: Kusarigama or the chain sickle/scythe... And I saw one in here. My hype just went through the motherfucking roof!
buyer beware cause there's no fanservice but maybe dlc might fix that.
I love what it did with the combat, but to say it doesn't really have much in common with Souls would just be incorrect, it's very much it's own game, but clearly in the vein as the Souls games. Experience works pretty much the same, you die, you drop it, you retrieve it, spend it at places that might as well be bonfires. Enemies all respawn upon death, save bosses (who you get big glowy fog walls behind you when you approach). Life and stamina bars are pretty much the same. In just the two levels I played, the way the world is laid out is largely the same, start in one area, continue along, eventually you'll circle back with a short cut (for if you die). Encounters felt similar. It's Dark Souls with a more robust combat system, no reason to avoid the comparison.
I love Nioh thus far. Seeing new info getting released is absolutely making me more hyped for the game. Since Dark Souls series is nearing its end (not sure if they'd just want to leave it be, when its as successful as it is), and Bloodborne's probably not getting a sequel. Nioh will be a nice pace of change. I think it's quite fair to bring Soulsborne into comparison, since they've excelled at making their games hard, but fair, compared to other ARPGs which pretty much either goes unfair or babysits you.
As for Lords of the fallen... I never could see that as Dark Souls esque. It was so slow, and sluggish D:
As usual I liked hearing your opinion. I wholeheartedly agree with it, though :) The environment indeed seemed bland. I read people, who had played more areas than the latest Beta one, saying that the other environments were various in terms of color and props. Still from what I've seen in other videos, the level of detail is quite the same - low. I don't see this changing though so I'm readying myself for it from now. As for the dungeon crawler aspect, honestly I didn't think the game was that way until I heard you say it. I'm slightly disappointed and I wish it had an interconnected world. I still loved the combat and the depth the game provided in customizing your playstyle and technique. I cannot wait to play the full game.
Oh, one more thing. I'm so glad I'm not the one saying not to compare this game to the Souls games. It certainly has borrowed some major game mechanics but that's it. It's very different. It has added and expanded on lots of the Souls mechanics to be compared to them. The common must be looked at in the sense "Hey, I know how this works from Dark Souls or Bloodborne, nice. I can focus on climbing the rest of this game's almost vertical learning curve." Thanks for reading :)
hey bit late to your channel. fantastic video. will be playing ds3 once im done with the witcher. youre channels getting me ready for the challenge.
The demo was meant to network test it as well as testing any bugs and such. Of course its blend
Japanese culture is contributing to the emptier houses by the way. Simplicity is how they preferred to keep it in that era.
I still have Bloodborne's controls in my mind while playing Nioh; I keep forgetting the guard button. As you said, players need to play the game until it "clicks" in their minds, and suddenly they "feel" what they need to do.
I felt like it was really simular to dark souls but had a "soul" all its own in the style of which it played the system idea of dying and losing your exp or soul and how the fighting style works, while maybe demon souls was the original game to make this style of gameplay popular with many other game, including recently a ps4 game Let it die where you actually lose your character and all the items they have, and then you would either spend RL money to revive them or get a new character and hunt down the old you and defeat them to reclaim them to be able to use them again minus all your gear they had on them. My point being it dose the die punishment style of game well and the fighting style is fantastic and I cant wait to see how much actual japanese lore this game has in it and see many many clock cats in ninja pockets
Reason being the graphics and not so lush environments is because this game was originally coming out on PS2
I enjoyed the world, the combat, the armor, the weapons, and the enemies. This game will be way better than Dark Souls (2 and beyond) as enemies don't pivot on a dime to track you and the enemies aren't massive gangly things with infinite stamina.
I haven't been this excited for a game in a very long time.
And all of this came true.
This video sounds a lot more like a recommendation than a warning.
I never had any frame rate issues, no "stutters". I would like to ask though... when you first loaded the demo there were options that change how the game works. One stabilized frame rate, the other improved resolution, and the other did something else that I didn't care for. Which did you choose? Because the stabilize frame rate one (the one that I chose) could have resolved those issues as opposed to the increased resolution.
It looks good imo - if it comes to PC further down the line then I see myself playing it a lot but as it stands as a PS4 exclusive, I won't be playing it; namely because I don't have a PS4. I do agree with the levels looking bland though - I appreciate that authentic feudal Japan aesthetic a lot but it needs more colour, a bit more lit up areas and hell, throw in some of that twisted demonic goodness that you see in something like the Shadow Warrior games, makes areas with this game's sort of theme look way more alive and vibrant.
One of the best games coming by far! Hype!
this looks pretty cool reminds me of Onimusha kinda miss that game hopefully they make another one.
this game is going to awesome. i have tryed the nioh last chance trial, and it was so cool. i was so happy with the fighting style, different type of weapons, yokai, bosses and it never gets bored. i am excited for the release and i have preordered the nioh digital deluxe edition :)
never preorder man
I lost patience with this game man but any game that is difficult is interesting to me. Definitely buying
Lords of the Fallen was horrible, this game is closer to, if not better than Dark Souls, and that's coming from an avid Souls player. I honestly went straight in comparing the two, and it totally satisfied my hunger for a newer "Souls" experience. When I heard of it, when the beta came out, I ridiculed it from the very beginning. That literally only lasted for about 2-3 enemy encounters lol. Unlike LotF, it was very fluent and tactical, bringing me back to the memories of playing Demon's Souls when it first released. Then I discovered the stances; this is one of many reasons I think it may just be the game to finally give the Souls series a good fight for it's throne. I played the beta over and over, beating each stage about 5 or so times just to experiment with stance combos and learn the strengths and weaknesses of each weapon, and which weapons work best for different enemy types. I fell in love the more I discovered.
Moving on to the next reason I think it will take the throne of Souls - the equipment. One part of the Souls series I've always had a problem with (well moreso after the influx of CoD kids when Dark Souls 2 was released), was that weapons and armor are locked at certain attack points and armor ratings, which led to everyone copying each other to make the strongest builds. It kind of killed the multiplayer for me (I still love the single player aspect of them though). No one has their own preferences anymore like they did in Demon's Souls and the majority of my time with the first Dark Souls. Now there are just a bunch of Havel clones running around spamming magic. The weapons and armor in Nioh is based on level, like Baldur's Gate type rpgs, which gives you more choice in what type of fighter you can be. Not only that, but each weapon type is unique and challenging to master, meaning that even though a certain hammer in the game may be the strongest weapon, not everyone will be skilled enough to wield it. Players are going to have their own preferences in this game that will make the pvp a lot more skill based, rather than power based, which will make each pvp encounter more interesting and fun. I am at a really hard crossroad right now though, sadly. Do I buy this or wait for Horizon and get Nioh later this year? I restrict myself to only 1 full priced game every 6 months so I don't waste money getting burned by hype trains. But these both look like they deserve all the hype those trains are carrying.
thanks for another good video. one thing though, you should have started the video with the NPC from bloodborne dlc, simon I think he gives you the bowblade, anyway I love the way he says, B-WARE. lol, it would have been perfect. more please, and thanks!
I've played dark souls 3 and loved it but then came nioh, which i loved even more
I couldn't get into the Bloodborne or Dark Souls games, but now maybe the time to try something new. This looks fun
I only got to play this briefly on Saturday night, this was unfortunately after several hours in the pub and needless to say it did not go well.
I managed to get through the demo without leveling ones and it still felt pretty fair.
by purchasing this you support the use of games as hostageware. don't be a puppet in the hands of commercial companies, defend your OWN interests, as a consumer and a gamer!
Alker of Abyss time to buy a ps4 pal, you can't have every game you want on your preferred system.
locking games up is an anti-consumer practice. that's all there is to it. what you said just means that you side with system manufacturers, rather than consumers.
most exclusivity deals are done to financially benefit the developer or because they just really don't want to work on that platform. i would hazrd to say a lot these games wouldn't be made without manufacturers throwing money at them.
here we go again. what do *WE* get from it as *CONSUMERS*, if we don't even get to play the game?
nothing. if you don't buy the product then you don't play it.
We're not comparing any 3rd person game to Dark Souls, just this. Saying it doesn't compare is just silly. The combat is essentially the same, the stamina drain on the bar is the same, the ui looks basically the same, you die and lose xp the same forcing you to restart which is the same. Of course there are differences like the stances and weapon types but they very very clearly went into this intending to make a dark souls styled game.
That doesn't mean it's bad. We need games like this. If it improves on what DS has to offer then it sets the bar higher and that makes future games better, and if it sucks then we can see why DS is better.
imo the only thing here that is lacked is the open world, but hey if you got maps with secrets and replayability and an awesome action rpg/combat system this game is going to be good.
When Capcom won't make any Remaster or new Onimusha games...
Then Team ninja make this game...
I starting to cry.
I miss this kind of Japanese Historical fiction game....
It looks like a cross of Onimusha and Dark Souls.
Also, I don't compare it Dark Souls because someone told me it looks like it, I compare it to Dark Souls because that's exactly what it fucking looks like.