No love for Port? 6-1 from last 7 games. Taking down WB, Carlton & Sydney in that stretch. WB & Sydney games were the worst losses of their season as well. Credit where credit is due
While I agree that pressure is on Freo and they got seriously outplayed, I don't really get how Cameron was the issue, he had 14 and a goal? I thought guys like Guthrie, Dempsey and Holmes hurt us much more. If anything I thought the takeaway was that Freo doesn't have the talent underneath to deal with injuries (Tabs, Voss, worner, Wagner)
Well we’ve got all the silverware.. it is getting a bit tiresome subsidising all of the dependents in other states.. the “welfares” as I call them .. lucky the AFL is completely socialist and looks after these low rent non VIC sides
It takes a great coach to change his role and let him roam. He wasn’t doing that at GWS, played much more like a traditional forward. It takes balls to bring in a Coleman Medallist and basically tell them too play them like a winger for the good of the team structure.
For Collingwood there's a fair few things thats gone wrong. From having a tough last couple of years (winning a premiership can be tolling) to start a season with the shortest break ever. They swapped their coaches roles around and struggled with any continunity and flow with constant injuries making it worse. Follow that with last season our inside mids were Mitchell, Adams, Degoey. This year its been Nick Daicos and Jack Crisp. Your going to struggle when that's the case. Then you have Collingwoods 5 years in a row leading goalkicker having an Injury fuled year and having to try Injury prone kreuger and a guy who cant run Ash Johnson. There are lots of aspects to look at but it's been a year where anything that could go wrong has for the pies.
Yeah it's not like the clubs spent the offseason watching Collingwood games and worked out the magpies gameplan. Teams don't kick down the line like they used to. A great example of this is Rd 3 against st Kilda. The saints were switching the ball in all parts of the ground like crazy and that's enough to defeat Collingwood
@@Robrulz666icloud lol acting like the MCG, shared as a home ground with 9 other teams, majority of the competitions second most played ground, is that much of an advantage? Your dreaming. The gabba, gmhba gold coast, fortresses to the teams that play there, and are much more of an advantage to most VIC clubs. However the pies have proven that they are a good travelling side with a great record away from home.
How Motlop and Pittonet reached first class football has me bewildered! Why the Blues selected them also has me bewildered. They remind me of the England national team at the Euros and world cup.. same aniexty same stage fright.. and no plan B.
Motlop showed some promise at one point. But he's been completely ineffective since being recalled in recent weeks. Pittonet's not up to it. De Koning has been badly missed..
All I hear is excuses about Essendon been hearing this since the Matthew Knights area it's been no different under Matthew Knights James Hird John Worsfold Ben Rutten and now with Brad Scott same old message let's face it Essendon is overrated, they are just plain SHIT they have way too many spuds
The frustration for Carlton is there best football is as good as anyones. They battled through injury early in the year and kept playing well. These last few weeks show a complete lack of initiative from the coaching staff to make changes to the roster or the gameplan mid game
do people not understand how injuries work? richmond the most injured this year and no one would've expected them as wooden spooners Carlton 2nd most have fallen out of the 8 when they were expected to make it further into september collingwood 3rd most looked like geelong last year.
true, injuries are real. melb hasnt been able to cover petracca, may when he has been out , lever, gawn, etc etc. hence their ladder possie. teams arent that stacked with good players anymore thanks to the afl. one out one in doesnt cover the talent hole.
To further prove your point West Coast most injuries previous 2 years including the year they were lucky to even get enough healthy players to even field a team, result was last place. Fact is Injuries to your best players 100% effect your results
@@padstah3747 I would agree just looking at the score. But Melbourne played a very ball dominant contested brand of footy that was hard to score against. Not to mention the atrocious umpiring that went their way (as a Brisbane supporter)
Lol Port Fans were booing Hinckley 5 weeks ago. Port win a few games near the end of the year, they re-sign Hinckley for another year, then Port will crash out of the finals. Rinse and repeat every year, lol
A lot of Carlton's best 22 are out injured, probably 12 players now in the best 22 - it's decimated the season. 5 -6 players of the best 10 are out injured. Great sides cover that, to a point. Carlton is not a great side.. Certainly a decent side with their best 22.. All sides have injuries though. Now they're saying Harry McKay is out, so they'll have to put some tall no name VFL guys in as the key forwards. We're playing well past player 30 on the list now. Wasted season.
Their key players have played most weeks. Hawks missed there best forward nearly the entire year. Carlton just aren’t coached well and their skills are shit. Rely on bombing to Curnow and McKay and hoping the umpires keep gifting them soft frees
But some sides are still winning with injuries, at this stage.....eg Port has 3 of their 4 tall forwards, out with injury....Georgiades, Marshall & Finlayson (plus a small forward in Powell-Pepper), and have had to use a backman as a forward....injuries make a difference, but Kingy often picks which clubs he allows to use real injuries as an excuse.
“The AFL have frozen ticket prices for the finals again this year, no wonder they have because there won’t be any at the MCG…. Won’t there be games at other stadiums?? “Why do you worry about this so much”…. Great return comment.
The difference was the Cats fast start in jumping the Dockers & kicking the first 5 goals Kingy.....It's not rocket-science mate.....Stay with them till half-time & they're gettable due to their age.
Essendon were in close games all year, they won more in the first half of the year. They’ve lost 9 games, 7 of them they had more inside 50s. 5 of those they had more inside 50s and more scoring shots. Essendon lack a real gun forward and their small forwards haven’t been very good for a while now. Arguably Essendon was one of the most consistent sides, close games week in week out in an even competition. Should’ve beaten Adelaide, GC twice, Carlton, Melbourne etc and they’d be sitting top 2-3 if they managed to convert their opportunities better. Caddy looks like in a couple of years could be a star, need to find a quality small forward and a big tall of quality.
Not gonna happen Kingy. Until Essendon have a proper clean out and not a half arsed one, players like Caddy will go undeveloped and eventually end up on another side and become a superstar there. There is something seriously wrong there that multiple reviews have not corrected. Dodoro still being there is one thing that needs correcting.
When Carlton have injuries it's bad luck because "you're not winning with your 30th player", but when Freo have their entire first choice spine (Pearce, Darcy, Treacy) out it's a club problem. Tell me more about how you don't hate Freo though Kingy 😂😂😂. For the record I think some of his criticisms have been valid over the years, but he is also the first to stick the knife in.
Essendon have improved, 4th in the comp for inside 50s, beaten 4 of the current top 8. Plenty of losses are on the back of missed goals, and they only really had poor games against port when their 3 stars had career days, st kilda when they couldn’t miss in front of goal and vs Geelong where the umps went bonkers in the 3rd term.
David King just had a dig at Swans for the umpires helping them over the line. Every one of those deliberate OOB were there. The so called 50 was debatable. Collingwood do this every time in close games. Last year they got away with it but this year obviously the umpiring dept is on to them. What they do is push or knock the ball 3 metres directly out of bounds, trying to disguise it as accidental. They got done on it. Slow whistle from the umpie caused that & that is why he did not pay a 50.
Kingy never seems to talk about Hawthorn unless they're going badly,... and he can then put the sh*t on them. If they're going well he pretty much refuses to talk about Hawthorn.
@stevelozevski8151 I did watch it, the Hawks got less than 2 minutes and 30 seconds. Go back and check the time stamps if you don't believe me. The Bulldogs goalkicking got more discussion, but that makes sense because Kingy has been guzzling their bathwater for the past few months.
Carlton supporter here, before 2015 we didn't draft enough good players, we had bad recruiters. From 2015 onwards we've stuffed up getting Andrew Russell as the high performance guru he's got all the players on the side lines injured. Also we've traded in good players but they are injury proned and canoot handle AFL football. So we got the recruiting wrong Now we got the fitness high performance program wrong.
I get that with the years that they have had, talking about the Eagles is not something that everyone wants. But to have a section talking about the game and not mention the comeback and their positive results. Disgusting.
Kingy isn’t giving crouch enough credit. He is an elite in and under mid, he’s not pretty but he’s an accumulator that can get it to the outside better than most. Also, hinge has been up around the ball and the contest the last couple of weeks, just not attending centre bounces. Is he even watching crows games?
What about Melbourne who's fans never turn up, AFL had to get them Paul Roos and they are held up by the MCC which they in return are holding back. Without it they'd be worse than North Melbourne who's fans would probably show up if their roles are reversed. Brad Scott was also a big part of North's fall away into the abyss doing exactly the same as what Brad Scott did to the Saints. Keep playing the same players, piss off some decent players by throwing them under a bus and never trying younger talents. Leaving a huge mess for the next guy to come in. Collingwood got Luke ball because of Ross. Collingwood got Levi Greenwood because of Brad just as a quick example from the top of my head.
If hawthorn were in the top 4 they would be flag favourites!!! Outright flag favourites.......I can't believe I'm actually stating that as a serious statement. Reminds me of Brisbane 2001. (Not quality wise, Brisbane were WAY more advanced and simply better) what I mean is essendon were top of the ladder, reigning premier and probable back to back. Then Brisbane started to get on a roll, they were 13 on the bounce heading into finals, essendon were still firm favourites. Well gràndfinal day they were 16 on the trot and overcame a 16 point last quarter deficit to begin a dynasty.
They’ve got a great young core right now, it’s a shame it took them so long in the season to really get the ball rolling though. I expect they’ll go far next year.
@@mitchellbarrow3606 who is playing better?? Sydney...ah no, Brisbane...ah no Geelong....ah no, port...ah no, western bulldogs...ah no , gws....ah maybe they're flying, Carlton...ah no, freo...ah no, Collingwood...ah no. U tell me who should be
@@stevelozevski8151 it was a contributing factor to the result 💯, not the reason they lost though, but definitely weren't helping them in anyway. Freo didn't even get a free kick until the 25th minute mark of the first qrt, @ this stage it was 6 or 7 to 0. In a game of football, honesty, how does a team not get 1 free kick in 25 minutes?
@@JustinSteele-gd5nu from that point on, the free kick count was 19-6 in freo's favour. Three quarters of the game. and when the game was on the line. Suck it up, umps had nothing to do with it
Maybe the reason Carlton s Fitness Guru is finishing this year obviously fitness hamstrings +++ are the issues + as is Collingwoods problems Fitness +++ other issues bring back Graham Wright move Bolton on Asap ??
No love for Port? 6-1 from last 7 games. Taking down WB, Carlton & Sydney in that stretch. WB & Sydney games were the worst losses of their season as well. Credit where credit is due
While I agree that pressure is on Freo and they got seriously outplayed, I don't really get how Cameron was the issue, he had 14 and a goal? I thought guys like Guthrie, Dempsey and Holmes hurt us much more. If anything I thought the takeaway was that Freo doesn't have the talent underneath to deal with injuries (Tabs, Voss, worner, Wagner)
Love seeing the big vic teams out of the 8
Well we’ve got all the silverware.. it is getting a bit tiresome subsidising all of the dependents in other states.. the “welfares” as I call them .. lucky the AFL is completely socialist and looks after these low rent non VIC sides
@@Zed137love it - and true
@@Zed137 Ironic given the AFL wouldnt exist if it wasnt for the interstate teams joining the comp and keeping the comp alive
@@iamhugeandsquare sure🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bet you'd love a gold coast v giants gf too. Yawn.
Cameron just makes the coaching look better. He's a rare weapon. Great players make coaches.
What can the coaches do when all your inside mids have been missing all year?
It takes a great coach to change his role and let him roam.
He wasn’t doing that at GWS, played much more like a traditional forward.
It takes balls to bring in a Coleman Medallist and basically tell them too play them like a winger for the good of the team structure.
Carlton doesn’t have a game plan …. Kick down the line. Kick long to Curnow and Harry. End
If Plan A fails, enact Plan B.
Plan B: refer to Plan A
I mean pies had a pretty bad run, some years you get that, it’s not easy to be ontop all the time.
if we were true about going back to back we would need to win them🤷♂
Love seeing the giants dominate
You can call the win vs lions a lot of things but dominant is not one of them
Another week with Port being ignored as the #2 team atm. The disrespect has been ridiculous
And Port played golf that round
To be fair the Port vs Melbourne game was about as interesting as golf
@@padstah3747 quite true 🤣
For Collingwood there's a fair few things thats gone wrong. From having a tough last couple of years (winning a premiership can be tolling) to start a season with the shortest break ever. They swapped their coaches roles around and struggled with any continunity and flow with constant injuries making it worse. Follow that with last season our inside mids were Mitchell, Adams, Degoey. This year its been Nick Daicos and Jack Crisp. Your going to struggle when that's the case. Then you have Collingwoods 5 years in a row leading goalkicker having an Injury fuled year and having to try Injury prone kreuger and a guy who cant run Ash Johnson. There are lots of aspects to look at but it's been a year where anything that could go wrong has for the pies.
The biggest reason for Collingwood's slump is they aren't being looked after by the umpires and the tribunal.
Yeah having 17 home games to make up for all those excuses you just mentioned 👍
Yeah it's not like the clubs spent the offseason watching Collingwood games and worked out the magpies gameplan. Teams don't kick down the line like they used to. A great example of this is Rd 3 against st Kilda. The saints were switching the ball in all parts of the ground like crazy and that's enough to defeat Collingwood
@@Robrulz666icloud lol acting like the MCG, shared as a home ground with 9 other teams, majority of the competitions second most played ground, is that much of an advantage? Your dreaming. The gabba, gmhba gold coast, fortresses to the teams that play there, and are much more of an advantage to most VIC clubs. However the pies have proven that they are a good travelling side with a great record away from home.
@@rickylol lol from a grown ass man, cute little man, Yeah I guess the swans did beat the collingwobbles there to didn’t they 🤣🤣
How Motlop and Pittonet reached first class football has me bewildered!
Why the Blues selected them also has me bewildered.
They remind me of the England national team at the Euros and world cup..
same aniexty same stage fright.. and no plan B.
I saw many Blues supporters saying Voss was a failure for not having him in the side earlier LOL. TDK is injured.
Motlop showed some promise at one point. But he's been completely ineffective since being recalled in recent weeks. Pittonet's not up to it. De Koning has been badly missed..
All I hear is excuses about Essendon been hearing this since the Matthew Knights area it's been no different under Matthew Knights James Hird John Worsfold Ben Rutten and now with Brad Scott same old message let's face it Essendon is overrated, they are just plain SHIT they have way too many spuds
Not exactly the same player list from Matthew Knights till now, but sure.
The frustration for Carlton is there best football is as good as anyones. They battled through injury early in the year and kept playing well. These last few weeks show a complete lack of initiative from the coaching staff to make changes to the roster or the gameplan mid game
do people not understand how injuries work?
richmond the most injured this year and no one would've expected them as wooden spooners
Carlton 2nd most have fallen out of the 8 when they were expected to make it further into september
collingwood 3rd most looked like geelong last year.
true, injuries are real.
melb hasnt been able to cover petracca, may when he has been out , lever, gawn, etc etc. hence their ladder possie.
teams arent that stacked with good players anymore thanks to the afl.
one out one in doesnt cover the talent hole.
To further prove your point West Coast most injuries previous 2 years including the year they were lucky to even get enough healthy players to even field a team, result was last place. Fact is Injuries to your best players 100% effect your results
Port continuing to fly under the radar despite being 2nd is actually crazy 😂
Imo id put them 4th but that game vs Melbourne was really unimpressive for the most part
2nd is the new 9th
@@padstah3747 I would agree just looking at the score. But Melbourne played a very ball dominant contested brand of footy that was hard to score against. Not to mention the atrocious umpiring that went their way (as a Brisbane supporter)
In a season like this the seedings don’t count for anything any everything can change in a week.
Lol Port Fans were booing Hinckley 5 weeks ago.
Port win a few games near the end of the year, they re-sign Hinckley for another year, then Port will crash out of the finals. Rinse and repeat every year, lol
Matt Rowell throws and drops the ball more then any player and he has the most frees for in the AFL...
King you are so right, l embarrassed for Carlton supporters whinging. ❤
A lot of Carlton's best 22 are out injured, probably 12 players now in the best 22 - it's decimated the season. 5 -6 players of the best 10 are out injured. Great sides cover that, to a point. Carlton is not a great side.. Certainly a decent side with their best 22.. All sides have injuries though. Now they're saying Harry McKay is out, so they'll have to put some tall no name VFL guys in as the key forwards. We're playing well past player 30 on the list now. Wasted season.
Their key players have played most weeks. Hawks missed there best forward nearly the entire year. Carlton just aren’t coached well and their skills are shit. Rely on bombing to Curnow and McKay and hoping the umpires keep gifting them soft frees
But some sides are still winning with injuries, at this stage.....eg Port has 3 of their 4 tall forwards, out with injury....Georgiades, Marshall & Finlayson (plus a small forward in Powell-Pepper), and have had to use a backman as a forward....injuries make a difference, but Kingy often picks which clubs he allows to use real injuries as an excuse.
“The AFL have frozen ticket prices for the finals again this year, no wonder they have because there won’t be any at the MCG…. Won’t there be games at other stadiums?? “Why do you worry about this so much”…. Great return comment.
Not a kingy fan but I do like how he has Carlton’s back 👍
Of course injuries play a big part!
why is collingwood in the caption? not mentioned
The difference was the Cats fast start in jumping the Dockers & kicking the first 5 goals Kingy.....It's not rocket-science mate.....Stay with them till half-time & they're gettable due to their age.
Carlton brought players in when we didn’t need them and those ins ruined the chemistry that we had.
Essendon kick 2.8 in the last quarter and they'd be talking about the Essendon Edge.
Yep. All about the W. Nothing else matters.
Essendon were in close games all year, they won more in the first half of the year.
They’ve lost 9 games, 7 of them they had more inside 50s. 5 of those they had more inside 50s and more scoring shots. Essendon lack a real gun forward and their small forwards haven’t been very good for a while now. Arguably Essendon was one of the most consistent sides, close games week in week out in an even competition.
Should’ve beaten Adelaide, GC twice, Carlton, Melbourne etc and they’d be sitting top 2-3 if they managed to convert their opportunities better. Caddy looks like in a couple of years could be a star, need to find a quality small forward and a big tall of quality.
Kingy spitting facts
Not gonna happen Kingy. Until Essendon have a proper clean out and not a half arsed one, players like Caddy will go undeveloped and eventually end up on another side and become a superstar there. There is something seriously wrong there that multiple reviews have not corrected. Dodoro still being there is one thing that needs correcting.
What are you going on about? Dodoro wins trade week every year. Well at least that's what we're told by plenty of Bombers supporters.
@@gustaaf1892 rumour has it he has 48 different burner accounts to help control the narrative.
Yup agree with @RileyLive98…great to see the Big V teams…dominate!
When Carlton have injuries it's bad luck because
"you're not winning with your 30th player", but when Freo have their entire first choice spine (Pearce, Darcy, Treacy) out it's a club problem.
Tell me more about how you don't hate Freo though Kingy 😂😂😂.
For the record I think some of his criticisms have been valid over the years, but he is also the first to stick the knife in.
So true about Carlton Kingy. Play Binns
Essendon have improved, 4th in the comp for inside 50s, beaten 4 of the current top 8. Plenty of losses are on the back of missed goals, and they only really had poor games against port when their 3 stars had career days, st kilda when they couldn’t miss in front of goal and vs Geelong where the umps went bonkers in the 3rd term.
Not to mention Essendon have fielded a younger side than north Melbourne for the last 2 weeks
You remind me of me trying to find any sort of positives for my blues,
Face it Essendon are shit and so are Carlton
@@jackmag4056 Essendon are rebuilding, gotta take the positives of improvement. Carlton are supposed to be contending?
@@lachieb5843 contending😂 we are a ladder pos 8-12 at best
Dont use injuries as excuse ....play bottom sides 4 times😅😅
Voss needs to lose the crap cliches and get REAL
David King just had a dig at Swans for the umpires helping them over the line. Every one of those deliberate OOB were there. The so called 50 was debatable. Collingwood do this every time in close games. Last year they got away with it but this year obviously the umpiring dept is on to them. What they do is push or knock the ball 3 metres directly out of bounds, trying to disguise it as accidental. They got done on it. Slow whistle from the umpie caused that & that is why he did not pay a 50.
Kingy never seems to talk about Hawthorn unless they're going badly,... and he can then put the sh*t on them.
If they're going well he pretty much refuses to talk about Hawthorn.
Watch the actual video instead of just commenting 🤦
Thats because 7 weeks ago he said hawks will win 1 to 3 more games ! And is sick of hawks being a powerhouse and north down bottom! 🤎💛💪🏆🏆🏆🏆
@@stevelozevski8151 I did watch the video and it was consistent with his anti - Hawthorn bias
@stevelozevski8151 I did watch it, the Hawks got less than 2 minutes and 30 seconds. Go back and check the time stamps if you don't believe me. The Bulldogs goalkicking got more discussion, but that makes sense because Kingy has been guzzling their bathwater for the past few months.
@@paulchambers9965 no you didn't
So kingy clearly didn't watch the crows game, 0 cbas for laird, full game at hb, so lazy stat reading journalism.
Carlton supporter here, before 2015 we didn't draft enough good players, we had bad recruiters.
From 2015 onwards we've stuffed up getting Andrew Russell as the high performance guru he's got all the players on the side lines injured. Also we've traded in good players but they are injury proned and canoot handle AFL football.
So we got the recruiting wrong
Now we got the fitness high performance program wrong.
David King Making up a false accusation like that about Carlton is a federal crime, are you trying to find yourself in handcuffs?
developing a great bald spot Kingy.... (love your work and crew)....
Blues high performance manager has resigned....
"leaving to pursue other opportunities at the end of the year" lol
I get that with the years that they have had, talking about the Eagles is not something that everyone wants. But to have a section talking about the game and not mention the comeback and their positive results. Disgusting.
Only way carlton win next two games if cripps gets best on
These Essendon players that Kingy is putting up for trade who would actually take them
@@paulduggan7183 only players actually worth something are Merrett and Caddy.
Kingy isn’t giving crouch enough credit. He is an elite in and under mid, he’s not pretty but he’s an accumulator that can get it to the outside better than most. Also, hinge has been up around the ball and the contest the last couple of weeks, just not attending centre bounces. Is he even watching crows games?
Totally. Different midfield blends last 6 weeks. Purely reading stats only.
If those teams can’t, then we have to say goodbye to the @aflsponsoredkangas and the @aflsponsoredsaints
What about Melbourne who's fans never turn up, AFL had to get them Paul Roos and they are held up by the MCC which they in return are holding back. Without it they'd be worse than North Melbourne who's fans would probably show up if their roles are reversed. Brad Scott was also a big part of North's fall away into the abyss doing exactly the same as what Brad Scott did to the Saints. Keep playing the same players, piss off some decent players by throwing them under a bus and never trying younger talents. Leaving a huge mess for the next guy to come in. Collingwood got Luke ball because of Ross. Collingwood got Levi Greenwood because of Brad just as a quick example from the top of my head.
Curnow faked his injury this weekend cause they were getting smacked.
You only think that because it's the kind of thing you would do, champ.
@darrenjpeters did I hurt your feelings kid? It was pretty obvious 😆
If hawthorn were in the top 4 they would be flag favourites!!! Outright flag favourites.......I can't believe I'm actually stating that as a serious statement. Reminds me of Brisbane 2001. (Not quality wise, Brisbane were WAY more advanced and simply better) what I mean is essendon were top of the ladder, reigning premier and probable back to back. Then Brisbane started to get on a roll, they were 13 on the bounce heading into finals, essendon were still firm favourites. Well gràndfinal day they were 16 on the trot and overcame a 16 point last quarter deficit to begin a dynasty.
Id say we're like the baby bombers of 1993. Won a flag before they were supposed to contend. Similarities are there.
Why would they be flag favourites? They lost to giants a few weeks ago
They’ve got a great young core right now, it’s a shame it took them so long in the season to really get the ball rolling though. I expect they’ll go far next year.
@@mitchellbarrow3606 who is playing better?? Sydney...ah no, Brisbane...ah no Geelong....ah no, port...ah no, western bulldogs...ah no , gws....ah maybe they're flying, Carlton...ah no, freo...ah no, Collingwood...ah no. U tell me who should be
@@cayden1710 yeah they are the ones I'd be backing if we had to pick long range from here
vic fans on suicide watch
Lions #1 brush they choked top 4... they arent beating hawthorn or gws.. there seasons over
Lions choked the top 4.. seasons over
Freo were slayed by the umps to make sure the Vic's have a team in the top 4
Yeah that's what happened 🤦
you hit the nail on.. not the head but you've hit the nail somewhere💀
@@stevelozevski8151 it was a contributing factor to the result 💯, not the reason they lost though, but definitely weren't helping them in anyway. Freo didn't even get a free kick until the 25th minute mark of the first qrt, @ this stage it was 6 or 7 to 0. In a game of football, honesty, how does a team not get 1 free kick in 25 minutes?
@@JustinSteele-gd5nu I agree with you. The umpires didn't pay free kicks because they wanted a Vic team in the top 4.🤦
@@JustinSteele-gd5nu from that point on, the free kick count was 19-6 in freo's favour. Three quarters of the game. and when the game was on the line. Suck it up, umps had nothing to do with it
You dont talk about hawks what a joke😂😂
they did mate 34:15
It must actually cause Kingy physical pain to give any sort of praise to Hawthorn.
Maybe the reason Carlton s Fitness Guru is finishing this year obviously fitness hamstrings +++ are the issues + as is Collingwoods problems Fitness +++ other issues bring back Graham Wright move Bolton on Asap ??
Let's see you travel ,every 2nd week, Victoria teems. u won't see a premiership, for many years
V F L SNOT.
This is a SODIMISED competition.