Tanker Shuttle Drill
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2011
- Had a very successful drill this morning. We moved 72,500 gallons of water over a 2 mile distance in about 2 hours. Cottekill 2312 on attack and 2311 supplying the scene. High Falls 3011 filling tankers. The workhorses moving the water... High Falls 3012, Stone Ridge 5810, Kripplebush 3420 and Accord 1512. Oh and we can't forget the gang at the Crossroads Deli for making lunch. Great job by everyone involved. Thank you!
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imagine a fire that called for 5 portable ponds and 30 tankers. we had to supply 2 towers going full blast and a few monitors (dont know how many) for 12 hours straight. we had 2 4 inch hoses running between the water supply engine and the attack engine. we were barely keeping the ponds filled for 12 hours straight.
This is definately a great drill for any department to do, especially with a rural water supply. Just one small suggestion that will help a lot if I may. When the stream of water coming from your side discharges changes from "white water" to slow running clear like at 1:22 and 3:40, get the truck out of there. The extra 40 gallons that you get on a slow pour isn't going to matter when you have a nozzle flowing over 250 g.p.m. Great drill though. Alot of Depts overlook this.
I've been involved with this type of drill many times myself. Here's a suggestion: Unless completely empty, we always drop the water in the tank we're NOT drafting from. This helps eliminate "white water" in the draft tank and loosing prime from drawing air into the pump.
Jessie Spears are there 2 separate tanks?
ive never seen a fire truck with a back door that opens like that first engine did. of corse i have little experince with a top mounted pump to, but great water shuttle, tanks did get below half. this also look like a mutual aid training
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thanks for filming this I wondered how this worked.... very educational
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Good drill. When there aren't any hydrants around you have to do something to get lots of water to the fire. Waste of water.... not really. The training is necessary or you might as well not have an FD because the only thing you'll save is the slabs. Love the dump gates or whatever you call them now. They were just coming into use when I was a fire fighter many years ago, and they were on the back of the tankers. How times have changed, and for the better.
I've seen a few videos just now of these Shuttle Drills. Can anyone explain what these drills are for? Sorry, I'm not familiar with firefighting techniques.
Jump man this operation is used to supply firefighters who will be attacking the fire in areas where there are no fire hydrants around so there's an adequate amount of water to complete the task
+Courtney Smart ok so what their doing now, what's this got to do with areas that lack fire hydrants ?? i dont understand.
+clarence trotter The fire engine on scene drafts water out of these pools and pumps it to the hoses fighting the fire...Tankers haul water from a water source (lake/pond/hydrant) to where they are fighting the fire.
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600 GPM is a pretty respectable rate, nice job.
What’s the reason for doing this, wouldn’t it just be easier and more effective to use the trucks that are filling the pools (if in a real scenario) to fight the fire rather than double handling the water
This type of truck is called a Tanker (at least where I live, other places call them Tenders). Tankers don’t always have pumps on them, which you need to fight fire. This technique is used in areas where there is little to no hydrant coverage, or in a scenario where the water supply, such as a lake or river, is too far from the incident to pump water directly.
We do this so that when the tankers are empty, they can go right back to the water supply and fill up again. Multiple tankers rotate between the dump site and the fill site. As long as the tankers never stop rotating, the engines will always have water to pump without any interruptions. If the engines took water straight from the tanker, having to couple and uncouple the two apparatuses, and the span of time where the pump wouldn’t be pumping water would waste precious seconds. Not to mention, in the span of time where the pump isn’t pumping any water, the firefighters on the nozzle wouldn’t have water. If they don’t have water, they have nothing to defend themselves with. It’s a very intricate process, but it puts water on the fire and gets the job done.
when we do a tanker shuttle drill, then just as a part of a complete emergency exercise like a forest fire drill, then with dozens of FDs taking part
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I have accidents floated in one of those tanks for the Scott Air take on my back on the Butler County Fire District Number 1
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why do they fill a pool?
Sep Degeus its not really a pool. Its called a dump tank. Tankers (units that carry lots of water, and their main purpose is carrying water) bring water, dump them into the dump tanks, and other fire engines (ones for pumping water to hoses and stuff) can use suction hoses to suck the water out of the tanks. Rural areas use this tactic to establish a good water supply when there are no hydrants nearby and you have multiple tankers coming from and going to the fill site to the dump area. Hope this helps.
Armyconrad ow okay, thx but why they dont Just film from tanker to tanker?
Sep Degeus if you take directly from the tanker, the tanker will run empty. It will then have to go to the fill site, which may be minutes away. In that time, the pumpers can run out of water. If you have these portable water tanks, the tankers can dump the water into there, and the pumpers can use suction hoses to draft water from these tanks, while the tanker travels to the fill site to refill. So these dump tanks are basically adding "a second tanker" to the response. By this I mean the units have water on site in a large tank like a tanker vehicle would have, but instead of taking directly from the tanker vehicle and preventing it from going to refill, they take it from the portable tanks and the tanker can go refill and the tanker can come back and wait and slowly refill the portable tanks as needed. It may not make the most sense but it allows us to get more water to the scene and in a quicker manner.
Armyconrad true
just curious what would this drill prepare for in an actual realistic situation? it looks like you guys did a good job but im a little lost to what actually is going on
koolaidkidz67 water shuttle operations are used in areas where they don't have hydrants at all. They can also be used as a secondary water supply for a department that has hydrants in the area so they don't drain the water supply.
hahahahaha he probably isnt even a firefighter, he wouldnt know jack shit about it.
I don,t understand the use of a pool! In Europe we just leave one tanker as buffer that other tankers refill al the time! This way you don,t spill water and in the mean time we build up a big hose waterline with pump from a openwater source a mile away to fire adress. Check out some Dutch firefightermovies.
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Why not just use a HVP, there's should be a water source within 3km of some description
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