Thank you for this confirmation video. As a 3hc, my best rounds are when I feel like I'm hitting the ball with by right shoulder. It keeps me from standing up and humping the goat, it forces my hips to turn slightly ahead of the upper body and ahead of the club without being conscious of it, and it's a reliably powerful move that doesn't require a checklist of 12 swing thoughts as I'm standing at address. Too many folks (and golf magazines) have focused on "Fire the hips!!". BS - hip turn happens naturally if you keep the right shoulder rotating without pause. The moment the right shoulder hesitates, the club flips on by.
Best lesson I ever heard was Darren Clarke who said it should feel like your right shoulder gets down to the ball before the clubhead, even though in reality that can never happen. That swing thought translated into an instant improvement in my game.
What a great feel because it keeps your hands passive. As long as you commit all the way through the ball to the finish. This move/swing thought keeps you on the correct arc/path to the left after impact because you stay down! The right wrist also stays bent through impact as well for forward shaft lean. Brilliant. Thank you
I’m 71, been playing for 58 years, and this is probably the best golf tip I’ve ever heard. Not sure why it resonates so well, but it does. Thanks for this and all the great work you do.
Hi JC : Kudos once again : This video simplifies the golf swing to such an extent , that it completely obliterates 85% of the mundane instruction out there! Unbkelievable ! Doing this gives a ton of confidence ! Thank you very much !
Watched this earlier and headed out with my 7i and hybrid down an empty course.. have to say having played yeatersay with all the usual swing thoughts, this worked incredible! Really helped smooth out the swing and after getting a bit of confidence was hitting as pure as i can.. so many thanks! August week this week so fingers crossed!
Always impressed how you can show good and bad version so well, I feel like most instructors hyper exaggerate to the point of not being relatable. You are my favorite golf instruction UA-camr, thank you for that.
Me likey!!! I hit fairly decent shots but Just realised how much my arms outpace my right shoulder on the downswing resulting in many inconsistent strikes. The result of this simple thought - unconsciously eliminated my over the top and early release, shifted weight to the lead heal at the right time, promoted ball compression, increased rotation on my follow through, increased my swing speed.........
I stumbled on this right-shoulder-forward, downswing move a week ago while experimenting by myself on the course, and then found your video explaining it. After trying it a few times, I have found that, for my old school, 2 plane swing with a pretty strong grip, this move is pure gold! Without it, my body turn often stalls out before impact causing ball contact problems and/or 2-way misses. Using this step (turning right shoulder out and forward to lead a more passive arm swing) immediately fixed my main swing faults with one move. It also is providing all of the following benefits to my swing; (a) moves swing bottom forward, (b) moves right elbow forward, in front of right hip, (c) helps my body to continue to turn through impact, (d) pretty much eliminates the right side of the course, and (e) increases forward shaft lean at the ball. Of course, no swing fix works for all types or problems because we start from difference places, but this sure helps me! Thanks!
I like how you showed good vs. bad side by side and explained in depth the differences. I'm guessing when you say the ball goes left right center for shot on the bad swing is that because inconsistencies or because you are rolling the club if you have it slightly off in the stance you hit it at different angles of the face to the swing path?
To date your video is the most excellent video on You Tube. To explain further. Once in their proper golf posture and having aimed placing their club perpendicular to the ball; know that the golf swing should never be counter clockwise on the backswing and then clockwise on the downswing as 99 percent of golfer do. Instead the golf swing is simply a continuous transitional clockwise twirling of the club head down to the ball using both hands and wrists twirling clockwise together with the trail right shoulder simultaneously turning clockwise as the golfer immediately swings their club through the ball exiting left post impact from their ball. The hips and lower body will respond automatically. Your video demonstrates this perfectly. 👍🥂😊Cheers
I have seen this video before but few days ago i watched it again. I really start rotate my body and try to get that feel about right shoulder. I have decent golf swing, but sometimes my right shoulder drop too much and it cause fat or thin shots. When I really rotate my body things are looking better. Thanks.
Great video, whenever I hit a bad shot it’s stalled shoulder turn and the arms take over, also hitting shots left is another clue. Keep up the great work.
I remember playing and its difficult to repeat the day i had but my thought process helped me do this without knowing it. I kept my shoulders super relaxed and grip light just loosening up helped me turn thru the ball and created a in to out path and also made my shoulder turn ahead of the arms. I hit some drives that day which were life time best. When u get tense and try to smash it. The opposite happens. It creates no whip effect.
super well explained and illustrated... what is also clear with the two video is your head move, on the "not to do" your head/eyes are glued to the ball (blocking the rotation and forcing the wrists roll), while with the good one, your look follows the ball flight .. this can be also a good tip ?? Thank you
Thanks bud. This move makes me rotate better than my thoracic mobility would normally allow which leads to a head swivel. Head swivelling is a great move to do stand alone, as it will force the chest to rotate.
@@jchowngolf it's also counterintuitive to the basics we learn when starting to play. At least for me, I was taught to keep my head still, but you're not really doing that at all. I've noticed that with good strikers, they're starting to look forward towards the target once they make contact, but for the right reasons instead of the wrong ones. Golf is hard!
I really like this swing thought but I have one question. Am I purposely rotating my left hip and shoulder as my right shoulder is firing forward or do I just try and let the rotating happen as a result of momentum of the swing? Thanks.
So different from the instruction we got years ago. I remember "roll the hands". I think this made golf very frustrating because like you said you can hit one good shot then bad. I have a good problem now, have to recalibrate my club distance cuz going much farther!
Interesting. I checked some of my videos and it looks like my shoulders are not beating the club and it goes right. I hit a few straight ones and my shoulders were more turned before contact
Thanks bud. Through the ball you can feel that but not earlier in the downswing. When done early it will lead to a big in to out path and loss of low point control
IMO every downswing motion should be predicted on supporting wrist structure. And the only way this can be done without proper chest/shoulder rotation is to chicken wing it.
Haha im definitely the guy on the right and I know it but cannot change it. Practice swings are easy but put the ball in front of me and I just cannot do it.
this shoulder move occurs AFTER the transition 're-centering' motion.. once u master the re-centering motion, this shoulder move really makes the swing feel free flowing & bumps up ur swing speed automatically hope it helps.. good luck buddy
this shoulder move occurs AFTER the transition 're-centering' motion.. once u master the re-centering motion, this shoulder move really makes the swing feel free flowing & bumps up ur swing speed automatically hope it helps.. good luck buddy
Thank you for this confirmation video. As a 3hc, my best rounds are when I feel like I'm hitting the ball with by right shoulder. It keeps me from standing up and humping the goat, it forces my hips to turn slightly ahead of the upper body and ahead of the club without being conscious of it, and it's a reliably powerful move that doesn't require a checklist of 12 swing thoughts as I'm standing at address. Too many folks (and golf magazines) have focused on "Fire the hips!!". BS - hip turn happens naturally if you keep the right shoulder rotating without pause. The moment the right shoulder hesitates, the club flips on by.
Agree 100 percent!
Best lesson I ever heard was Darren Clarke who said it should feel like your right shoulder gets down to the ball before the clubhead, even though in reality that can never happen. That swing thought translated into an instant improvement in my game.
What a great feel because it keeps your hands passive. As long as you commit all the way through the ball to the finish. This move/swing thought keeps you on the correct arc/path to the left after impact because you stay down! The right wrist also stays bent through impact as well for forward shaft lean. Brilliant. Thank you
I’m 71, been playing for 58 years, and this is probably the best golf tip I’ve ever heard. Not sure why it resonates so well, but it does. Thanks for this and all the great work you do.
Hi JC : Kudos once again : This video simplifies the golf swing to such an extent , that it completely obliterates 85% of the mundane instruction out there! Unbkelievable ! Doing this gives a ton of confidence ! Thank you very much !
Watched this earlier and headed out with my 7i and hybrid down an empty course.. have to say having played yeatersay with all the usual swing thoughts, this worked incredible! Really helped smooth out the swing and after getting a bit of confidence was hitting as pure as i can.. so many thanks! August week this week so fingers crossed!
Always impressed how you can show good and bad version so well, I feel like most instructors hyper exaggerate to the point of not being relatable. You are my favorite golf instruction UA-camr, thank you for that.
Me likey!!! I hit fairly decent shots but Just realised how much my arms outpace my right shoulder on the downswing resulting in many inconsistent strikes. The result of this simple thought - unconsciously eliminated my over the top and early release, shifted weight to the lead heal at the right time, promoted ball compression, increased rotation on my follow through, increased my swing speed.........
I stumbled on this right-shoulder-forward, downswing move a week ago while experimenting by myself on the course, and then found your video explaining it. After trying it a few times, I have found that, for my old school, 2 plane swing with a pretty strong grip, this move is pure gold! Without it, my body turn often stalls out before impact causing ball contact problems and/or 2-way misses. Using this step (turning right shoulder out and forward to lead a more passive arm swing) immediately fixed my main swing faults with one move. It also is providing all of the following benefits to my swing; (a) moves swing bottom forward, (b) moves right elbow forward, in front of right hip, (c) helps my body to continue to turn through impact, (d) pretty much eliminates the right side of the course, and (e) increases forward shaft lean at the ball.
Of course, no swing fix works for all types or problems because we start from difference places, but this sure helps me!
Thanks!
tried it today. Best swing thought of the year. thank you!
This gained 10mph on my swing speed. It creates effortless lag for me. I no longer think about starting my swing with my hands. THANK YOU!!!
Implemented this swing thought today and played sooooo much better! Thank you!
Killer explanation of what is happening within the swing when it is arm/hand dominant.
I like how you showed good vs. bad side by side and explained in depth the differences. I'm guessing when you say the ball goes left right center for shot on the bad swing is that because inconsistencies or because you are rolling the club if you have it slightly off in the stance you hit it at different angles of the face to the swing path?
i must say and you certainly deliver with your training and drills. This for me has to be in your top 3.
A real gem of a lesson! Thank you again!
Great video! It provides a good thought and feel for a proper swing. I promise I'll be working hard on it tomorrow morning.
Have a great time practicing!
To date your video is the most excellent video on You Tube.
To explain further. Once in their proper golf posture and having aimed placing their club perpendicular to the ball; know that the golf swing should never be counter clockwise on the backswing and then clockwise on the downswing as 99 percent of golfer do. Instead the golf swing is simply a continuous transitional clockwise twirling of the club head down to the ball using both hands and wrists twirling clockwise together with the trail right shoulder simultaneously turning clockwise as the golfer immediately swings their club through the ball exiting left post impact from their ball. The hips and lower body will respond automatically.
Your video demonstrates this perfectly. 👍🥂😊Cheers
Excellent drill and can’t wait to try on the course. Will this work for driver too? Thanks
I have seen this video before but few days ago i watched it again. I really start rotate my body and try to get that feel about right shoulder. I have decent golf swing, but sometimes my right shoulder drop too much and it cause fat or thin shots. When I really rotate my body things are looking better. Thanks.
This puts it all together, well done. If I can't be the guy on the left after this video then ... well I'll find something else to blame.
Pure gold as usual!!
Thanks bud
Thanks Johno. Always thought the head should stay behind the ball till after impact.
Glad you liked it. With driver that’s correct
I cannot wait to try this. Thanks for the tip!
You described my arm swing perfectly. I’ll work on right shoulder turn
Great video, whenever I hit a bad shot it’s stalled shoulder turn and the arms take over, also hitting shots left is another clue.
Keep up the great work.
I remember playing and its difficult to repeat the day i had but my thought process helped me do this without knowing it. I kept my shoulders super relaxed and grip light just loosening up helped me turn thru the ball and created a in to out path and also made my shoulder turn ahead of the arms. I hit some drives that day which were life time best.
When u get tense and try to smash it. The opposite happens. It creates no whip effect.
super well explained and illustrated... what is also clear with the two video is your head move, on the "not to do" your head/eyes are glued to the ball (blocking the rotation and forcing the wrists roll), while with the good one, your look follows the ball flight .. this can be also a good tip ?? Thank you
Thanks bud. This move makes me rotate better than my thoracic mobility would normally allow which leads to a head swivel. Head swivelling is a great move to do stand alone, as it will force the chest to rotate.
@@jchowngolf it's also counterintuitive to the basics we learn when starting to play. At least for me, I was taught to keep my head still, but you're not really doing that at all. I've noticed that with good strikers, they're starting to look forward towards the target once they make contact, but for the right reasons instead of the wrong ones. Golf is hard!
is there anyway to tell which one i'm doing with out a camera ?
Good stuff. Noticed the much larger grips. Can you talk about why you made the change? Thanks
Thanks. Good eye. Nothing of substance, just wanted to try them out 👍🏼
Awesome man! Love this!
Glad you liked it 🤙🏻
I really like this swing thought but I have one question. Am I purposely rotating my left hip and shoulder as my right shoulder is firing forward or do I just try and let the rotating happen as a result of momentum of the swing? Thanks.
what are you using for your net set up?
Keeping my right arm bent changed my game for the better
Amazing tip! I can rotate and finish my swing without even thinking about it! Thank you!!!🎉
So different from the instruction we got years ago. I remember "roll the hands". I think this made golf very frustrating because like you said you can hit one good shot then bad. I have a good problem now, have to recalibrate my club distance cuz going much farther!
excellent, thank you
Usual question : is this drill for driver too? And fairway woods?
I'm searching through the comments for the same answer.
Couldn’t help notice how much your head was rotated towards the target before impact on the 1st sequence, what was going on there?
Interesting. I checked some of my videos and it looks like my shoulders are not beating the club and it goes right. I hit a few straight ones and my shoulders were more turned before contact
The biggest shock for most watching this video will be, how much the head has to rotate to target, to allow right side to fire/rotate through the ball
Great video. Could you try swinging down with the right shoulder? It seems to make you rotate automatically. Thanks!
Thanks bud. Through the ball you can feel that but not earlier in the downswing. When done early it will lead to a big in to out path and loss of low point control
@@jchowngolf thanks for the clarification. Very helpful
Would this principle correlate to the driver as well?
I tried it today and it worked best for the driver! Forces you to just swing.
Exact move that David Duvall, and Annika Sörenstam used
Starting the down swing by dropping the right shoulder does many good things for your swing.
Definitely disagree on that Mike
Has anyone tried this drill? I'm definitely going to give it a go it looks awesome. Just curious if anyone tried it and thoughts.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you say this is a "feel"? Your shoulder isn't actually beating your club.
My swing thought when I get too armsy…it works!
Great to hear!
IMO every downswing motion should be predicted on supporting wrist structure. And the only way this can be done without proper chest/shoulder rotation is to chicken wing it.
I also noticed when I fixed this that my wrist injury went away.
Absolutely, less active wrists
Your clubface looks very open on the downswing...?
Not at all
Haha im definitely the guy on the right and I know it but cannot change it. Practice swings are easy but put the ball in front of me and I just cannot do it.
If you can get it in practice swings, then make sure you’re hitting balls with soft half swings until you can nail the move. Then build the speed up
Better is pulling left shoulder up
😁👍
Thanks bud!
I have tried this and I shank it 50% of the time.
this shoulder move occurs AFTER the transition 're-centering' motion..
once u master the re-centering motion, this shoulder move really makes the swing feel free flowing & bumps up ur swing speed automatically
hope it helps.. good luck buddy
I can't seem to get it. I still fall back
this shoulder move occurs AFTER the transition 're-centering' motion..
once u master the re-centering motion, this shoulder move really makes the swing feel free flowing & bumps up ur swing speed automatically
hope it helps.. good luck buddy
There wil Be no clubheadspeed only straight shots
I hit it SO fat on Saturday, I bladed the ball. That is a thing now.
#1 👀???
you promised it'll fix my fat shots, I'll get back with u
…to make this shoulder move effective…the back ankle must ‘roll’ , else your face won’t be square…