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100 billion+ dollars have been invested in making new chip factories here in the US, and some of those factories will be finished around 2025, so right around the corner. Things are going in the right direction again, it just needs more time.
We need to bring back alot more manufacturing than just chips. Stop letting corporations get rich by outsourcing labor, they need to employ Americans if they are based here.
With 250B in additional incentives.
If China were to successfully invade Taiwan I have to imagine the IP would flee to the US, and the actual physical machines on the ground destroyed so as not to fall into Chinese hands.
USA would blow up the factories before China could even use them. It would be pointless. USA wouldn’t allow them to fall under Red China control
That’s my thoughts as well. I kind of wonder if there’s not contingency plans for that. Though that would set the world’s supply back substantially for quite awhile
How China claim Hongkong and Macau 😂 Yap invade 😂
Daz gives china too much credit
Most people do because they don’t realize China lies about literally everything.. they also have to steal everything because they are too stupid to come up with whatever it is they are stealing on their own. I heard up until a few years ago in China didn’t even know how to produce a ballpoint pen. They couldn’t figure out how the ball floats at that joint near the tip 🤦♂️🤣
Duh... he knows everything.
China is in a terrible position lol a huge paper tiger
@@Madison.Cruz.Shooterhat are you talking about. Whenever i hear them, I feel they have no analytic skills. Forget about the knowledge and connecting the dots. I can give several examples when they were so far apart from understanding geo politics and dynamics between different countries. They keep repeating what they have already seen in their media. They are too invested in it. So it's hard to analyse when you are so invested. No doubt the UK economy is falling. They need to yeah better analytic skills in school
China doesn't focus on short term profit, China focuses on 10-50 year plans. It's only a matter of time before China literally becomes #1. If you see the current direction of the USA for the past 30+ it's obvious the USA is falling behind.
America and it's allies (mainly Taiwan) still dominate the microchip and semiconductor supply chain. America is #1 on the supply chain (design) and Taiwan is #2 (production). The most technologically advanced chips go to the American Military which is part of the reason why we have the most advanced military in the world. This seems to be the main driving force behind China becoming so aggressive with Taiwan and threatening to invade them more in the recent years in my opinion. If they successfully invade Taiwan that would put them in the best position they have ever been in to try to overtake America as the top global superpower. That is why America will be all hands on deck if Taiwan is invaded by China.
Taiwan will sabotage their factories before handing them over to the Communists. It will also hurt China technologically, who do you think make their microchips?
If China invades Taiwan and appears to be successfully conquering the island, there should be more than a few American cruise missiles aimed at the fabs so the Chinese don't get a functioning microchip manufacturing capacity; they get a smoking ruin.
But then the lithography machines that are used by the most advanced chip fabs are made exclusively in Europe. So even if the PRC retakes Taiwan, then they'll not be able to move on to more advanced processes or maybe even get replacement parts without the cooperation of a Dutch company, ASML.
@@ratinthecat facts. Also even if the CCP somehow secured the ASML machines, the TSMC engineers and workers in Taiwan wouldn’t just freely cooperate with them. The Taiwan government could also destroy the chip factories should China captures the island.
Could that be another reason why China has not tried to take Taiwan? Notice I did not say take back. Because the people of Taiwan fled to the island from mainland China when the CCP Communists took over China. CCP China actually drove the Chinese Capitalists to the Island when the Communist Party purged Capitalists from China after they usurped Power. The Chinese who fled to Taiwan knew that the dangers of staying in communism would affect their families.
From what I know, the problem of the exponential
growth is that transistors have become so small ( ie billions of transistors on a fingertip sized chip) that we’re reaching the edge of possibility with our understanding of physics.
They’re already atomically sized . Anything smaller would cause problems because of quantum physics .
That's true. However, newer chip architectures are starting to stack transistors, so Moore's Law is going to be OK for the foreseeable future. In the mean time, compute-in-memory architectures will continue to improve, and so I don't think we'll ever see an end to exponential growth. In fact, I think the rate of change could actually increase due to the progress made in quantum computing. The same evolution that traditional chips saw in the past is now taking place in quantum processors, which is kinda scary given the absolutely colossal potential they contain in certain types of tasks. Combine that with vastly improved AI that will be available in, say, 10 or 20 years...let's just say that my bucket list isn't collecting much dust these days. I'm not saying the end is near, but having that much power opens the door for something truly catastrophic in a way that makes climate change or nuclear war look like a walk in the park. Following things out to their logical conclusions, the implications associated with the combination of AI that has evolved several generations along with the processing power of quantum computing makes our current [total lack of] awareness seem like a parent allowing a toddler to play with a loaded firearm. We have to be aware of the potential problems we could be seeing in a decade or two. It's absolutely possible that we don't progress as fast as I'm implying here, but there is a non-trivial chance that we do, so it's probably smart to plan for the worst and hope for the best. Given our track record I'm not all that optimistic, but hey, fingers crossed :)
There is very little outsourcing of semiconductors to China. The world's largest "fabs" which actually make semiconductors, often on US designs, are in Taiwan and South Korea. However the US is building a lot of new manufacturing capacity. That takes roughly 2-4 years from turning dirt to chips coming out the door. Also, most of the equipment needed to make chips is from the Netherlands (ASML) and the US. Export of this equipment to China is now banned. So China is unlikely to be at the leading edge of chip making for a long time if ever. The latter part of the video explained this pretty well. I would add the Blokes are wrong that the US wants everybody to buy from us. What we want is not having to buy from any source with which some day we may be at war or embargoed. If the UK or the Netherlands (as now) want to design and produce chips, we will be happy to buy them. The UK company ARM already does a good job and, of course, the Netherlands leads in the manufacturing equipment.
I worked a company applied solder points to semi-conductors in AZ, USA in 2006 until it was moved over seas. Now the U.S. is trying to get it back for security reasons, begs the question, why allow it to go over seas in the first place?
All points to the treasonous right wing white supremacist republikkkan grifters infiltrators which sold out the USA since Reagan..it's that klan that is to blame for global warming a global pandemic wasteful wars regression etc etc
greed
$ and the usual short-sighted decisions companies make.
result of privatization. companies could make more money outsourcing.
Money!
Taiwan and to a lesser extent South Korea are the OPEC of the semiconductor industry
Johnny harris did a video on this. I highly recommend.
You guys should react to Peter Zeihan's interview with Joe Rogan where he discusses the future of China and Russia, including Russia's war in Ukraine, semiconductors, and Russia and China's declining population.
Zeihan has been predicting China’s meltdown since 2005. He repeats the call for China meltdown and possible breakup or breakdown multiple times. In 2010, he said it would happen within 3-5 years.
He is a good analyst, but I believe he gets paid to peddle propaganda and lies.
@@goodmorning192 I just recently found out about him. I do think he has a lot of good points though, even if his timing is a bit off. 😂 I'll definitely keep my eyes open for propaganda. Thanks for the heads up. 👍
Good day, all! Peace be with you!
So what makes you think you can come in here talking like that? Well, let's see how you like a taste of your own medicine. And listen up Bud, cause I'm only gonna say this once: I hope you get a great night's rest tonight and you wake up tomorrow feeling like a million bucks. Ha! How you like them apples?
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@captain_crunk you know exactly what I need, my friend! May it be.. 🥱😁
Real life chess game
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he was ok. not that good lol
@@DavinderSingh-zr9fnactual 10 year old brain opinion
@@DavinderSingh-zr9fn you have no clue cowboy
@@legolite45 lmao
@@TM-bq5mt 🤣🤣🤣
I've been privileged to have worked on "the" EUV light source for over 20 years. It's not rocket science. Rocket science is easy.
EUV (13.5nm) light is needed for the densest layers. Prior to EUV becoming viable 197nm and 248nm DUV light was the state of the art. Immersing the wafer in water enabled enabled 197nm to print finer detail (via index of refraction change- think of putting a stick in a bathtub full of water and how it appears to bend). Double patterning further pushed the limit.
EUV technology is forbidden to be exported to China. It's so complex that reverse engineering is impossible. Hence why these Chinese startups failed.
That microchip debate at the beginning was both inane and entertaining.
if weed is legal by you guys, you need to smoke up and have these conversations!!
The OB Pre-reaction banter is always a good way to kick off a video!
This is the second vid in the past few days that I've seen before u Blokes reacted to it. We in the same bucket of the Algorithm 🤷
The pandemic and Ukraine war has shown the US that we must control production of certain items despite the price .
I thought this was gonna be the Johnny Harris video on the subject, which is very good.
Definitely not 10 years more like three to four years
salt and vinegar chips. the finest dish British cuisine has to offer.
It’s a longer video but Johnny Harris did a great video on this topic
Recommend anyone to watch it!
Johnny Harris hates his own country.. He also gets tons of things wrong in his videos. Just search Jonny Harris being debunked.. multiple people went out of their way to make great videos just because he’s that annoying and gets so many things wrong. That’s what happens when your videos look so professional.. the majority of people are going to take your word for it. You can just tell he’s a snake.
Dave is right about how unfeasible it would be to try and go 100% EV. The average Vaccum cleaner uses roughly 75-100 microchips. Some EV cars use upwards of 3000 chips.
Wrong, that's rightwing propaganda you have to go by the Facts and going sustainable energy efficiency electrical vehicles WORKS but the treasonous "conservative" right wing klan worldwide will feed the uneducated or the extremely unintelligent willfully ignorant that BS and promote it too. Research EV and the facts that it is better financially in general to go GREEN
@@sweetdulcesunshinenyc You sure do assume a lot about a person rather quickly don't you? Clearly not worth the conversation...
Reports are saying we seen the balloon liftoff from China a week before it reached the US 🇺🇸
reports from who?
Please react to infographics show latest videos. And fail army.
China is host to most of the world's rare earth metal mines/deposits that are needed to manufacture these chips. They've also been making trade deals with the Taliban in Afghanistan, home to one of the world's other biggest deposits of rare earth metals.
Didn't one of the other terrorists groups recently start targeting Chinese individuals that are in that part of the world?
There are plenty of deposit of rare earth elements(REE) around the world. China used to hold near monopoly on the production of these elements because no one wants to process these insanely toxic metals. In 2010 when China increased export quotas on REE, the rest of the world increased their production greatly. China has dropped their quota in 2015 because they lost their case to the US, EU and Japan in 2014. Nonetheless, the rest of the world have since made it a mission that China will not hold a bottleneck in REE.
You are confusing 2 issues. Rare earths are critical for manufacture of batteries used in EVs and other things, not microchips which are essentially silicon which is common around the world. However the US and now Sweden (I think it is--it's a very recent discovery) have significant rare earth deposits which simply need development.
You don’t need REE for chips 😂😂
12:35 can anyone explain the joke office bloke daiz is saying🤣
antivax conspiracies
He was reffering to the covid vaccine. Basically saying if they can fit 114billion transistors in a microchip that small, how much electronic shit could they fit inside a vaccine shot?😂😂
Shouldn't this video be titled "Why China is losing the Microcrisps war"?
You guys should look up Johnny Harris he does great videos about this kind of stuff
Please don’t watch him.. Johnny Harris hates his own country.. He also gets tons of things wrong in his videos. Just search Jonny Harris being debunked.. in a couple of his videos some of the main points he was completely wrong about.. multiple people went out of their way to make great videos just because he’s that annoying and gets so many things wrong. That’s what happens when your videos look so professional.. the majority of people are going to take your word for it. You can just tell he’s a snake.
@@bmorg5190 I never knew that, thanks for the info
Taiwan can build their own great wall if they keep advancing the chips and only sell it to us and allies. 92% of advanced chips come from the tiny island 👏👏
I dont think he said China had the only machine that produces microchips. I think he said that that particular machine in China produces the best ones.
I haven't finished the video. They might clarify that point later.
Well this didn’t age well
people are byiong teslas solely for the big ipad like screen it has and the stupid auto pilot
problem is they are making cars unnecessarily hi-tech these days. adding too many features most people wont ever use
You say that but I had a 2021 Hyundai Elantra that basically drove itself. Drive and break cruise control features in traffic, automatic shutoffs, sensors all over the place, etc. I can't see myself going back to a primitive car again. I think people just can't afford to buy cars with these features but South Korea as one of the main players in the microchip market can make these cars very affordable. The Hyundai Elantra starts around $21k. As it gets to be more common place, people will become complacent with these features as we have with all other luxuries in life.
@@alexs1640 exactly, sadly people have been accustomed to so many luxuries that now if suddenly there is chip shortage, you are screwed.
@@alexs1640 Same thing with electric cars. We already had electronic gadgets and appliances. Now because of electric cars the load on power grid will be so much greater plus the slaves working in cobalt mines will be tortured even more. Because for electric vehicles you need so much more cobalt.and no big companies are even ready to be willing to actually help those guys.
@@biswojyoti1 same thing when our power goes out, we as a society are at a loss. It's just the times
@@alexs1640 yup. Just a matter of time when there is no supply. And hitech is not always good
As always...when you wan't to find the truth of anything secular....follow the money!
So to sum it up in one word...... greed.
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