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That vehicle line-up comment hit home too hard. Every end of day for us in the US Army we had to go down to the motor pool and make sure each vehicle was straight in line perfectly, same with the trailers behind the vehicles. They were also numbered so they were in numerical order as well, and if the command came by and saw it out of place he would pull every soldier from their barracks to go back down and fix it.
Even while deployed it was the same. The key was to train at home the exact way we'd do things deployed.
Practice how ya play. Was the same for us in the USAF, we'd have to line up our service vehicles (even in an area where no-one would see them) in a presentable manner or we'd get hammered for it if/when the CC saw it.
Yup, same here. Was looking for a comment for something like this, you were the first comment.
American Green Berets had been training the Ukrainian's for quite some time prior to this. They are without question the worlds best force multipliers and specialize in the area they are assigned to include culture and language.
And a lot of our high tactical vets are over there as well. They have freed some city Russia had for over 10 years.
I suspect there might be a few berets over there thwapping from a distance. They're always where no one suspects, yet just about everywhere, which is one of the key differences between them and the SEALs, but that's irrelevant except for the fact that that's what makes them useful in this situation
yeah and you know they are getting detailed pooled experince and intel from nato..along with any professional "volunters"
@Dacholo I didn't know that.
training the azov nazis... how fuckin noble of them
General George S Patton "I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me"
lessons learned from ww1
Whenever they talk about France i am thinking "it wasnt a 100 years war is still boiling in an English mans veins"
they are still sore over napolean :) he exported freedom all over europe ass untill the other countrys started adopting his advances in tactics...which for his part was mostly merit based advancment in the military and the tactic changes that caused
A military youtuber called lazerpig has done two videos covering Ukraine i highly recommended
For a better understanding, why and what is/was going on in Ukraine, you can react to:
Good rockets / Truth about the War in Ukraine (English subtitles)
Артём Гришанов - Лишь бы не было войны / Don't need war / War in Ukraine (English subtitles)
Talking about “mud season”, every time I see the Ukrainian countryside it looks like home. I bet they grow a lot of sugar beets.
General "Stormin" Norman Schwarzkopf once said in a press conference "That's what I love about the French, they're always there when they need you!" 🤣
the fun thing is, that without the french you probably would still be part of the commonwealth.
@@gonzo2495 Big probably. They were already close to broke before they started helping. Not to mention having a successful war in America, from across the ocean, is still a logistical nightmare for most modern countries. Britain wasn't going to be able to sustain much longer as they were broke too. They've needed our help more often than we've needed theirs so far in history, which is the point. Norman was a great General. Anyway, if it didn't happen then it would have happened eventually anyhow.
I have a picture of my father in the Gulf War with Norman. Just the two of them talking under a camouflage canopy. My dad was in the Air Force, combat comms. Helping make sure Norman's plan went as he planned it.
@@LucidDream ofc it was simplified from me. but they helped, not cause of altruistic reasons but still. ;)
Best video, best reaction you ever did!! I could feel the emotion from across the pond. It definitely gives me goosebumps at what the Ukrainian military and people have been able to fight through. Their efforts will never be forgotten!
At a later date, you guys should start a weekly series reacting to the coolest and most badass military operations of all time. Every country has to have had a few over the milliniem. Something that you guys might enjoy exploring.
Keep up the great work! Cheers from Phoenix, AZ.
Go Suns!
@@SomethingSeemsOff Thanks! I pray this is the year. I'm old enough to remember the Barkley years. We almost had it in 1993 as well as last year.
I'm always so torn on stuff like that because it's dangerous to glorify and glamorize war, because it makes it socially acceptable and a social norm. I mean I'm a typical guy so I love seeing a really cool plane or tank and I love explosions....but then you have to realize that the only reason that thing exists, is to kill people...
@@willvr4 I hear you. Maybe react to military rescues. I remember they did one of those a while back. Israel has done several that were amazing.
Украинская армия бесполезна! Слава России!
Watching Russian artillery unload a truck of munitions directly onto the floor and by hand is more than slightly disturbing. You ever heard of a forklift or pallet jack? The US and British militaries palletized logistics in the 90s so it's odd to see them waste 10 men who could be fighting to unload a truck.
I don’t know about TikTok, but China has the Chinese Anti-Indulgence System (CAIS) that limits how long people can play games in a day, as well as what hours they’re allowed to play during.
The system works off peoples’ NID (equivalent to US SSN), so it tracks time played between games on the same platform; without a valid (and verified with the government) NID, accounts are treated as under 14 with full restrictions.
This. is. what. happens. when. You. Give. Up. Your. Nukes.
Amazingly. The. U.S. Still. Has. Nukes.
They weren't their to begin with and they couldn't use or keep them secured cuz it costs too much money
Thought you guys might like something a little more light-hearted. A Ukrainian woman is giving a 'Life Hack' to help people drive abandoned Russian vehicles. It is pretty funny. One link is below. Nastya has removed this video since she is based in Russia now. At least as far as I can tell it is gone. It may have been posted on Tik Tok. This video shows a few other Ukrainians 'making off' with other Russian equipment.
Speak the Truth is a good channel with 1-2 daily updates with maps, videos, and stats concerning this invasion.
Edit: It's hosted by a former Army sniper who's seen a good bit of combat.
Thank you for this info, rukus. Much appreciated!
Hes my main source. The guy is very good at his very detailed daily presentations and now has connected with a Ukrainian soldier in war zone for additional information as of last night .
@@GoTakeaNapOldman You're welcome. 👍🏼
@@texasslingleadsomtingwong8751 Yeah, he's the best overall that I've found. I watch daily if I can.
A big reason Russia wants Ukrainian is to basically have a buffer between nato countries and Russia … going through Ukraine is also the easiest way to infiltrate Russia by land as far as the terrain needed to be crossed
I want a buffer from idiotic comments like this.
Can’t have something simply because you want it. Especially when it infringes on the freedoms and lives of men, women, and children. At least the world can stop taking Russia economy and military seriously. What a joke Putin turned his country into.
Russia wants nato to get away from them so they decided to take Ukraine so they can get closer to Nato xD
@@MarnieGolde7 yeah wasn’t saying what they were doing was right just that’s part of their reasoning
@@hamiljohn didn’t say it was right just saying that’s partly why they r doing it
China's military has its own set of problems which includes not only "yes men," but also the troops having to devote 1/4 of their time to studying "Xi Jinping thought."
@Борис Бурда 2003. And when did the Russians pulled a successful logistics operation?
@@Fergus_0703 1944.
@@luca.1992 right... 80 years ago.
@@Fergus_0703 Сирия.
@@Fergus_0703 что в 2003 искали хим оружие в Ираке, которого небыло! Или убегали с Авганистана! Или замарили от голода в ираке более 500000 тысячь детей? Или стреляли по Югославии бомбами с урановой начинкой. Вы англосаксы опухоль земли. Или вы подняли флаг над Рейстагом? Вы всего лишь сборище уголовников с Британии. Или расстрел в Вашингтоне сторонников Трампа, сколько лет тюрьмы дали людям?🤔🤔
Well this video got a little outdated rather quickly because now Russia completely abandoned their northern offensive their now only focusing on the east and the south
yeah they failed badly
It's really easy to sit back and judge France. They have a terrible track record over the last 40 years of getting involved and then getting absolutely demolished for it while the rest of the Allies just stand there and shrug their shoulders. If we want France to do more, then we gotta be willing to back them up, and traditionally we haven't done very well at that.
eh France cares about france they could potentially elect a nazi this election hopefully
we can avoid that
@@jacksmith-vs4ct I don't really have any idea what you're trying to say? But I can tell it has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
It hasn’t happened quickly, it’s been going on in the east of Ukraine since 2014…8 years on a smaller scale
WARNING: People in the comment section crying that this is fake and propaganda. Enter at your own risk ⛔️ ⚠️
because it is lmao. That little country called Ukraine isn't holding Russia back. If Putin wanted to level the place, he would've done so at the start.
@@a-a-rondavis9438 How is it fake and propaganda? Of course if Putin wanted to level Ukraine, he could. But that’s not his goal.
@@a-a-rondavis9438 I mean… His goal wasn’t to level the country though, it was to install a new government or at the very least force terms onto Ukraine that he found agreeable. That’s his win condition.
@@a-a-rondavis9438 You done messed up A-A-ron 👈🏽
@@a-a-rondavis9438 It's not propaganda. If Russia wanted to destroy the world, they certainly could. Doesn't make what the video pointed out any less true though. Just because something is a hard truth, doesn't make it a lie.
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Speak The Truth , review guys . You won't be disappointed in the least . In fact , I'm willing to bet you will be very surprised.
Corruption needs to be removed they did not want the easy way
Watch answer to Arnold Schwarzenegger video...Russian American speaking on the Russian Ukrainian war...real eye opener
The correct pronunciation is Kiv. We no longer use the English version of many cities-Mumbai is no longer Bombay, Calcutta is no longer used, etc. Qatar is pronounced “cutter.” It is a recognition of how it is actually pronounced. On aside, totally agree with Daz about France-they often whore themselves to what is in their best interest rather than standing up for others. It is quite disappointing. Ukraine is the biggest agricultural producer in Europe as well as rich in minerals.
In April 2021, within three weeks, two armies and three airborne units were successfully transferred to the western borders of the Russian Federation in the areas of combat training tasks. If we consider that the sun never sets over Russia, then this is a very good result. In Russia, there really never is a night all over the country. If it's morning somewhere, then it's night at the other end. And vice versa. The question of such a rapid transfer of troops is only expediency . This is not required for Ukraine, there is a limited contingent fighting there and not a single army in full strength.
"the sun never sets over Russia" - basically, it's Mordor 😂
@@loungekiller You can immediately see what a citizen of Ukraine writes. But I want to remind you that history is written by the winners and the winners are not judged, no matter how then the world would not call Ukraine the time of Zelensky a Mordor.
World cup England vs USA in Nov 2022 in Qatar. Now the blokes hate America... (90% of of the folks here have no clue what i am talking about its such a minor sport.) In 1950 USA beat England in the World Cup. Google it. I think USA needs another decade before we can take on England in their national sport.
I think Russia just launched a competitor to UA-cam called RuTube. I don't speak Russian so I can't understand it but you can translate the descriptions to English and it's pretty interesting to read the state owned media info.
You guys should definitely make a video on Russia's human rights issues like you mentioned. It's atrocious
Edit: and also you're right Daz. If Russia has no nukes, they could be invaded and would have barely any ability to counter other than numbers. They could be pushed out of Ukraine in months.
Being a former Logistics/Embarkation guy myself I knew Logistics would be Russias weakness...190,000 men seems like alot but if they are 190,000 straight up assault troops then who the hells gonna supply them, if Logistics guys and support forces were included then it's more like 60,000 assault troops which isn't enough to conquer a nation of 40 million especially broken up into 3 different prongs of assault...Logistics have dictated empires, with the blokes being British, you are well aware Britain never had the best or largest Army in the world during The Empire Days but with the Royal Naval ensuring routes stay open, a small professional army could be shuttled to and fro to deal with threats where they occurred, America, China, India, Europe, Africa, didn't matter, British Logistics keep guys fighting and supplied anywhere the Navy could reach, Putins Logistics are having a hard time reaching troops in a neighboring country.
You have the reasoning of a dilettante who knows nothing about modern logistics now it's 2022 and not the 15th century
In 2020, during the NATO exercises, it took 3 months to gather 174,000 troops for the exercises, in Ukraine, Russia took 4 days to mobilize, and in 4 hours the army reached Kiev
@@Biboran. your words mean nothing to me, unless you are a logistics guy...otherwise piss off, you haven't loaded anything in your life, just talk....Determined Determination in 1992 in Turkey, I was part of the G-4, where were you?
@@seansimms8503
My rank is a retired lieutenant colonel I served until 2008 in the railway troops of military communications under the Ministry of Defense of Russia over the past 40 years I have visited 71 countries of the world and built railway military communications in Iran Afghanistan Syria
@@seansimms8503
Grow up at least to a general to criticize me
@@Biboran. apparently yall logistics suck today, you remember DD92 off the coast of Turkey, Saros Bay? We accidentally blew up a Turkish Ship during the exercise but the point of it was to let Yeltins know NATO can put forces on the ground off your southern flank, I helped bring Americas gear, clear from North Carolina....Putin can't seem to keep Russians supplied in the next country over, how the hell does a 40 mile long convoy run out of fuel? In America, every guy you see fighting has atleast 3 support guys supplying him, bro, what the hell is going on in Ukraine?
Excellent content and discussion
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something i feel bad for is the mindset of the russian soldiers, they were sent to the border to do exercises and were told to enter the country or tehy would be tried for treason, in their minds they're liberating Ukraine as lied to by their superiors
Only because they were send there against their will and lied about reality in Ukraine it does not justify their crimes against the civilian population. You are not gonna tell me they were ordered to ram civilian cars with tanks , hit pedestrians on sidewalk with trucks and rape any women they can see .
Of course I know its not everyone but there is no reason to feel bad about them.
And they can always surrender to Ukrainian soldiers if they don't want to fight
Only the conscripts in the early stages. At this point, now that they're out of the young and gullible forcibly conscripted teenagers, those that are left know damn well what they're doing.
I read that some of the conscripts were told to say that if they were captured.
Это вам, ваша западная пропаганда лапшу на уши развесили, паралельно навязав в Украине режим националистов и устраивая зачистки несогласных и снабжая оружием. Они уже хотели на Донецк, Луганск и Крым напасть, и геноцил 5 миллионам людей там устроить мирных, чем и спровоцировали Россию, а вы и дальше в эти сказки верьте по вашим СМИ)))
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Love the longer videos guys
This Ukraine invasion is a lot like the Soviet invasion of Finland in 1939. They won that war but got completely embarrassed in the process.
Only difference now and the thing im most worried about is that now they have nukes
I'm not seeing the winning part on this one , no matter what Putin pulls. The whole damn world is watching at near live in situ. All day everyday . Coupled with weapons and foreign volunteer fighters , and civilian arming up so incredibly, civilian drones , etc , and Russia's absolutely rotted military infrastructure and technology , it sure looks like a massively expensive and hugely embarrassing lose .
Hey blokes, Jxmmyhighroller has a new video on the Lebron vs. MJ GOAT debate that's really well done. Think yall would enjoy it
NBA has been dead for 2 years now.
@@a-a-rondavis9438 dang someone woke up in a bad mood lmao. Let people enjoy what they wanna enjoy, it doesn't have to be the most popular sport. I couldn't care less about how popular it is
Guys: Kyiv is the Ukraine pronunciation - Kiev is the Russian pronunciation. And their radio system? They have an encrypted communication system, but it's cr*p and doesn't work very well. That's why they had to make radio and phone calls "in the clear" - which is intercepted by Ukraine. Two or more Russian generals are dead because of that - not to mention a lot of regular Russian soldiers.
The legendary founder of the city, about 1500 years ago, was called Kiy. In Slavic languages, the ending of the word "-ov", "-ev", "-iv" denotes belonging to something. For example, Ivanov is the son of Ivan, Chernigiv is the city of Chernig (prince of either the end of the 8th century or the first half of the 9th century). Kyiv - on behalf of Kiy. The language of the 9th-12th centuries differs from the modern languages of the Eastern Slavs, therefore the Ukrainians have Kyiv, and the Russians have Kiev. In fact, Kiy + "-iv" or "-ev" or -"ov" (Kijow - in Polish, Kyjev - in Czech). We will never know how the city was called Polyans (Slavic tribe ruled by Kiy) about 1500 years ago.
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Wars today are so civil. I feel we have gone back to colonial or pre-colonial war. I wish no war on anyone, but any country could decimate any country (or each other) by actually going to war. Russia could of dropped 5-10 tactical nukes and the war would of been over. The entire planet would of retaliated, but wars are now fought by winning hearts and minds.
Russia would guarantee it's total annihilation with that action. There's nothing civil about what is happening in Ukraine. You only need look at Mariupol. There are a dozen other cities facing a similar fate. These are cities filled with women and children. Russia is led by a coward with no honour. Just because it could be worse, doesn't mean it's civil, or that these same people aren't capable of ramping it all up some more. It's only been a month, and their levels of barbary are only increasing.
Keep in mind Mariupol is being "liberated". Kharkiv is being "liberated". This is their best attempt at winning hearts and minds. Wait until the mask comes fully off.
@@justinatest9456 You missed the point.
Do Russia's nukes even still work? Do they even maintain them? I feel like maybe not.
likely not but all they need is one
Have these guys seen the John Oliver Last Week Tonight videos on FIFA being a disaster?
New policy - Asian Russia = Russia, European Russia = New Ukraine.
LOL Daz is just worried about Chicken Kyiv now.
Did you guys see the Oscars?!! Please react to it.. it was insane
Coming very very soon 👊🏻
Insane 20 seconds lol ... 95% of people wouldn't even know Oscars took place if not for that small accident and everyone is hyping themselves with it as if the USA suddenly confirmed that they have aliens in AREA 51
Just goes to show you that Russia if in a fight against nato Russia will lose badly against nato, as Russian military technology and readiness is no comparison to nato l.
Take away nuclear weapons from Russia and instead of sanctions they would have armies entering through almost every border of their country
Idk.. that missile defense system is quite advanced. The trucks that I can't recall the name of .. t something .. aren't bad either
@@cygnusx-3217 but usa have fuel for their tanks and russia dont lol
@@cygnusx-3217 this so called "wunderwaffen" are like the ones from ww2. just propaganda and no factor in winning an actual war against an enemy who is so much more economical advanced, that its just ridiculous.
Great video and banter, blokes
the sound llevels are off, you guys are too low, the video is too high
It's Kyiv, not "Kiev", because our native language is ukrainian. And "Kiev" it's on russian
Yeah, my understanding is that it's a difference of spelling between the Ukrainian language and russian language. The west has been saying the russian word, and spelling it phonetically as well. Using Kyiv is an acknowledgement of their independence from russia. And a sign of respect. Peace for Ukraine.
@@justinatest9456 it's not spelling. it's two different languages. thanks, for the support🇺🇦
@@snortingzvirjatko2959 I wish we could do more brother. Peace for Ukraine.
@@justinatest9456 sister, fyi😉 you can, and you do. we'll never forget that. Never.🇺🇦
@@snortingzvirjatko2959 My heart breaks for the women and children of Ukraine, and the peaceful and righteous men and women forced to kill in defense of their homes and families. It breaks for the elderly, who's hopes for peace, finally, for their future generations seems to be under threat again.
Ukraine is a reminder of how peaceful and prosperous our lives have been, for so long, and how little we value or even notice that peace in the West. You fight with a bravery few of us have anymore, but it has stirred something in all of us. Ukraine truly is a guiding light to us all.
I hope that that light also will shine in the darkness to the east. That the people of Russia will look at the Ukrainian people as an example that they too can follow. That their own peace and prosperity is something worth fighting for. That they will look West, and wish to join our brotherhood, with their brothers and sisters in Ukraine.
Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇺🇦
43:00. China has been doing that Years before you ate your first Ginger Snaps Dave.
United States President Richard Nixon Opened China Commerce to the west in the early 1970s.
I'm not personally military but I think this shows a big reason why we in the US are so good at war and why we've only lost wars where the opponent was a guerilla force. It's not just having the best tech, it's getting it to where it needs to be that leads to victory. And the US has always been great at that and Russia has historically been awful at it.
Бегут ваши военные от русских 🤣🇷🇺🔥
Yeah, because the Russians were just TERRIBLE in World War II. 🙃
@@yvonneclaes5208 well they lost and millions on millions were dead and didn't return to mother Russia.
@@NatashaAvtonomova I mean do you want WW3?
@@yvonneclaes5208 If you think losing 8 to 14 million soldiers and as many civilians just to kill 2 million Germans is a great way to show the power of the country ,then there is something wrong with you.
The best Russian tactics are : throwing whole armies like a cannon fodder and using civilians as a human shields to force soldiers to protect cities ( leningrad )
5:42 Is that the "stars & bars" flag, minus the stars? Whose flag is that?
It's the Flag of Novorossiya or the Flag of New Russia. Adopted and flown by Russian-backed separarists in the Donbas region of Ukraine. It's based off the Russian Naval Jack.
@@liamengram6326 Thanks for cluing me in. That's a new one for me.
@@liamengram6326 Liam, if I may ask your help again? I looked up all the Russian naval flags. They all seem to have been adopted after the fall of the Soviet Union. Did they just grab the Confederate battle flag and adjust it to their pleasure? I can find no source for that flag in Russia before 1991.
@@ClayLoomis1958 It was actually around long before the Confederacy. From the 1700's until 1924. It was the design of Peter I. The St. Andrew's cross is a pretty common symbol in flags.
@@liamengram6326 OK. I apologize for my ignorance. Thanks again.
Really liked this video Dave you just said you been to barons quay in northwich and seen the big unit under the cinema that’s been made in to a donation centre for you Ukraine. I’m the manager of the H&M store there and a massive fan you all have kept me going through lockdown’s and everything else if your that close come in so I can get a selfie or I will even buy a pint.
Glad you're enjoying the vids and that we've helped in a small way! I'll pop in at some point and say hi 👍
The only aspect I would disagree with here is that Russia resorted to attacking civilians and its scorched earth policy only after it was "backed into a corner." Russia employed the exact same tactics in Syria--bombing hospitals, and even using biological weapons against civilians--and essentially that war, as well as their excursion into the Donbas, were practice runs for the full invasion of Ukraine. If Zelensky had fled Kyiv and UKR had just rolled over in the first few days, maybe it wouldn't have happened, but Russia was bombing maternity wards and sending cruise missiles into office buildings within the first week.
It’s possible that it probably wouldn’t happen, but Zelensky staying in Ukraine and the military putting Russia into a corner by fighting back is NOT an excuse to bomb civilians, hospitals, schools, and commit war crimes. Plus if Ukraine did give up, they would just be controlled by Russia and wouldn’t be their own sovereign country.
Slava Ukraini !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Слава России!
The thing is: America has been fighting wars CONSTANTLY since the Cold War. Vietnam, Korea, Desert Storm, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia.... We have the constant experience, evolution, strategy, heuristics, logistics. What's Russia done since the 80's? Take Crimea in 2014? They're clueless. They're spending money on nukes, nuclear delivery systems. They've no idea about maintenance, discipline, command, strategy, logistics. This is the second downfall of Russia (considering the USSR as the first).
They are doing what they did in Chechnya. They only know how to Bomb and displace the population. They have no hope of winning a war of invasion.
@@viviandarkbloom100 and they have never fought a fully nato supplied country as well...and they honestly didnt do that well in the 2 or 3 other eastern countrys they put puppet governments in by supporting separatists or creating separarists factions...which i didnt really know anything about untill this war
cough which wars did usa win again?
usa fought village people and fuckin tribes their whole existence. usa never fought a military capable country
@@bakihanma5849 Not protesting your comment, but I want to point out that you could argue most of their failures could be placed on internal politics getting in the way of proper planning strategy, USA's shortsightedness on what comes after a victorious invasion and doing more than just smashing their enemies to bits. or the general lack of enthusiasm back home for losses in those operations & wars.
Certainly problems, but the military forces themselves are still top notch.
Even then, USA still took lessons for their military and incorporated them. You can learn much from failure as long as you use resources to exploit those discoveries.
Putin is like Humpty Dumpty trying to put the Soviet Union back together.
You know nothing about Putin then.
@@user-tf4lk4fm7i then tell me what you believe then.
@@gregdavidson670 What I believe? It's not a belief system I'm talking about. I'm talking about facts.
Putin is not a communist
I not talking about communism. I’m talking about putting all the pieces of the Soviet Union back together again. Putin is a dictator, with a small economy, and inept military with lots of numbers, who still thinks like a KGB agent, and wants to be considered a world power. I explained myself now you explain yourself. Or were you just talking.
@@user-tf4lk4fm7i what you are talking about? not a single coherent sentence came from you.
I've been waiting for you guys to react to something related to this.
France has already surrendered! 🤣😂
Shout out to Dave for the LGBTQ reference.
Why? Did he say something wrong?
@@pandzida98765 No. He brought up how LGBTQ people are treated so I highlighted his positive comment.
Watch “Putin’s war on Ukraine, explained” by the channel Vox it explains some of the plans and history behind this war.
Ukraine has been waging a civil war in the Donbas for 8 years, Russia has come to stop this civil war, everything is simple here, no theories
Vox? Might as well recommend Buzzfeed or Vice. All terrible.
Disappointing to me the the US won’t commit to tanks or planes but that is the kind of thing Putin will use to further justify the war which makes it tricky. We have a large Ukrainian and Russian population here in Washington State and overwhelmingly both sides are against this, many left the USSR to escape it.
i mean Ukraine is already getting all the weapons from Nato and they received thousands of volunteers for the Foreign Legion, including war veterans so giving them Tanks and planes would be too much , especially when russians give away their tanks for free :D
The solution is never easy and without consequences. Putin wants to instigate a war with the US too, he knows if anyone is gonna butt in it will be the US. So I can't be completely against helping Ukraine, but also keeping a distance and just watching. It's a catch 22. Ultimately I think the best solution is for the Russian people to start making moves within their own government. Who knows, hope as many people stay safe as possible.
Good idea.
You go first.
@@Adrian-qr6gk after living for so many years in propaganda its not gonna be easy for some Russians to wake up
Hell no! There is a lot to this Blue Eyed war. Our military is mix and who watches Putin set up at the borders and not attack? Americans for the most part want Ukraine to win and want Russian citizens to be faced. But unless we send all white soldiers, we not fighting in nothing. Then did you see the guy's wife with all that money in Ukraine.... Don't believe everything you see. These two men are something else. I do not see Zelensky as a hero either. He has motives and this is the game and the US knows it.
It's because Turkey plays both sides so isn't really a European/Western ally despite being part of NATO somehow (Basically just because NATO needed a safe home somewhere in the middle-east, to counter Soviet influence and aid in repelling any attack on NATO. The most important asset, is the NATO airbases in Turkey which have seen tons of use in the middle-east and Eastern European conflicts and interventions. A NATO airbase in Turkey is also one of the few homes of US Nuclear weapons outside the US, with aircraft nuclear bombs and air launched Nuclear cruise mssiles stored under guard in case something bad enough happens that we need to use and also share our nukes with NATO allys.)
An example of Turkeys questionable loyalty was them picking Russia's S-400 Air Defense System, because of its great performance and critically, Obama kept stalling on selling them the US made Patriot Air Defense System. This resulted in the US kicking Turkey out of the NATO F-35 Program, their pilots training in the US told to leave, and their economic and material role in manufacturing parts for the plane removed and being redistributed to Germany. 2 F-35's were already delivered to Turkey, but not the rest with some given to Greece instead. Think the US refunded Turkeys money put into the F-35 and bought back or at least tried to get back the 2 already in Turkey. Unfortunately they already have the F-35 data since they were a key member of the program which could be shared to or stolen by Russia, and is likely being used for Turkeys new "indigenous" 6th gen stealth fighter to "beat the F-35" (Turkey's also a big weapons manufacturer in NATO).
This also pissed the turks off as another reason also questioning their loyalty, their conflict and border disputes with their NATO "Ally" Greece... apparently Article 5 doesn't include conflicts between NATO members, only outsider attacks against NATO members.
Turkey and the US also back warring factions in the Syrian Civil War, with Turkey declaring the US backed faction "terrorists".
The most recent example is Israel/Hamas, when the Turkish president declared that Israel responding to Hamas's attack on them was "Genocide" against Palestinians and if no one else would help, they "would" if Israel crossed into Gaza to root out Hamas, ya know, the Terrorist organization and self-appointed dictators of the Palestinian Gaza strip. (IIRC they've also been denounced by the "technical" government that's supposed to run and lead Palestine, but ignored by all the fanatics with all the guns and rockets so there's not much they can do). Meanwhile the US has an aircraft carrier group parked off the coast of Israel, and have pledged to defend them in the case that someone opens a second front against them. This was mainly meant to tell Hezbollah in Lebanon and Houthi's in Yemen to "sit", but could also now result in war between Turkey and the US if Turkey attacks Israel for defending themselves from further Hamas attacks, and we intervene to defend Israel like we recently just did with a USN ship shooting down some Yemen/Houthi Missiles fired towards Israel).
(Another reason for Turkey being allowed in NATO is probably NATO needed said airbases AND IRBM missile fields/sites in Turkey as part of their planned defense against the Soviet Union and Com-Bloc/Warsaw-Pact countries. For instance a little known fact is part of the Cuban missile crisis was that the US had IRBM's in Turkey, Intermediate Range Ballistic Missiles that close to the Soviets gave them an extremely short time for "Early Warning" in a first strike scenario compared to ICBM's from the US or aircraft bombs/missiles which alarmed the Soviets more than expected, so the Soviets put their own IRBM's in Cuba creating the same issue for the US. Part of the de-escalation ending the Cuban Missile Crisis not widely publicized at the time, was JFK quietly agreeing to remove our Missiles in Turkey if they removed theirs from Cuba.)
Its only one view on the issue and therefore the reaction is only one sided, nof objective at all.
It's a bit weird that you made such a big thing out of the name. "It was always Kiev" because Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union, and the Soviet Union used the Russian version of the name, Kiev, and not the Ukrainian version, Kyiv. It was called chicken kiev and dynamo kiev because the Soviet Union was around when these terms started to appear. There's no big mystery to it.
no its not i certainly didnt know the history of the name i had many other things of way more relevance in life to think about..i just figured kyiv was a native version like espana vs spain
@@ericdixon7412 That's exactly my point. It's just the name the people who live there have for it, and it wasn't called that internationally because for a long time it was a part of Russia, or the Soviet Union to be more accurate. No big mystery to it. The point is that they DID make a big point of it, when there's really nothing to it.
could be because ime american tho and regularly seeing corrected place names and prounciation changes on stuff cause of how our country is ..i wonder how many place names/itemchanges brits go thru i would think everything is as its always done and been settled so its rare there
actually in 2006, the usa changed all the english names to their actual real names, like kiev to kyv and in 2019 the name kiev was disbanded as an alternative name making kyv the sole name.
It’s been Kiev in the UK until recently as far as I remember
It’s always been Kiev until this war
no, the us wont regulate how a city in another country is called.
Didn't Russia need them Siberians' help in WWII when the Germans tried to invade???
Siberia=The REAL Winter Soldier(s)
When they attacked Finland in 1939, the Soviet Union sent a lot of Ukrainian soldiers to be killed in Finland. (for example: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Raate_Road) Two nationalities that had never had any beef with each other, forced to fight because of the insanity of Soviet Union.
top episode here guys!
What is the difference between the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the Israeli invasion of Palestine and the American invasion of Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq?
And the Saudi invasion of Yemen?
Nothing ..they’re just hypocrites
I believe the lad on the far right has no clue in what his talking about. The administration in turkey is the worse in its history but they have helped ukraine more than all the countries combined i suggest him to do some research before talking sarcastically with a smug face, ignorance is bliss!
The US alone has donated 1.6 billion dollars in weapons to Ukraine.. I highly doubt Turkey can afford to do that
@@Joker-no1uhthe US is the US it's kinda not fair to compare them to anyone
Kiev is russian version of spelling. Kyiv is ukrainian.
We (ukrainians) joke that only this damn war (or more like full scale attack) made most english speakers to use actually ukrainian versions of our names. Which we have been requesting for ages.
Daz is absolutely right about Macron.
That wasn't a vacuum bomb. It was a failed nuclear power battery for one of their secret super sonic nuclear powered missiles. Its a broom with a battery practically
Ok, I get that you guys have been in competition with the French over centuries, but seriously, the surrender jokes about a country that mastered partisan resistance definitely falls flat, and it's Germany, Italy, India and China who are continuing to trade for Russian oil at the moment. Come on, y'all are better than that
So… in other words….Russia Vs. America on our land would be the same as an average high school teen fighting a college sports pro jock.
like 1961
Sorry Ruskies, it's not as easy as the US makes it look, is it? Put this invasion side by side versus the Iraq invasion. The scale of the Russian invasion is LAUGHABLY inadequate. They didn't even send enough troops to overwhelm the numbers of the Ukrainians, let alone their inept supply line and logistics. (Yes, I understand the humanitarian side of this is no joke.)
It took the US 4 months to reach Baghdad
It took Russia 4 hours to reach Kiev
@@Biboran. Uh...no...it did NOT take the US 4 months to reach Baghdad. LOL what in the actual fuck did they teach you? We took the airport in Baghdad nearly immediately, and operated from there the whole war. Meanwhile Russia can't even maintain air superiority, against a tiny nation with a woefully outdated air force. Russia can't fight. The Russian army is the laughingstock of the world today.
@@Biboran. the us totally dominated iraq, russia struggles to get a single city.
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There is no Russia in Iraq
In Ukraine, Russia controls the entire eastern and southern part, this can be found by the Russian flags on local administrations and the Russian ruble is already in use there, the most stable currency today
@@Biboran. again, the us totally dominated iraq, sometimes the fuel tanks cant drive fast enough cause the tanks were so fast moving forward. it wasnt even a real war more like a punitive strike. russia struggles to get a single city in the ukraine. they bombed the shit out of mariupol, and still havent control there. and calling the rubel a stable currency is so laughable that i cant take you serious. at this moment 1 rubel is worth 0,011 Euro. thats nearly as bad as the senegal schilling back then. lol
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From my understanding
Kyiv is the Ukranian (correct) spelling
Kiev is Russian/USSR spelling
It was called Kiev forever until Ukraine and its "language" was invented.
Imagine getting your News from Facebook...
It hasn't been "Kiev" for years. It changed to "Kyiv" some time ago.
Wait so how is it pronounced? Keev or Kyev? Have I been saying it wrong?
You can pronounce like Kee'ev.
Kyjiw would be most correct way in latin alphabet. Fully correct is Київ. Bit complicated to pronounce the ukrainian way because the y j i are very different in pronounciation and they are written after each other, it sounds like: Köüjiv.
@@Donknowww Awesome to know, thanks!
@@kev792 No problem :) When the war is over, you should visit this wonderful city in summer :) lots of partys, nice outdoor gym, great food, very cheap, great nightlife, friendly people, lots to see and do.
Where are you from buddy?
@@Donknowww The US. I want to travel but don’t have a lot of money right now. In college currently.
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I've been a fan of your show guys.. but boy you guys know nothing do you?
Kyiv 100%
So much of this stuff is incorrect
like what?
Kiev is the Russian name for the capital of Ukraine and Kyiv is the name in Ukrainian. From what I know, everyone in Ukraine is able to Russian and Ukrainian, and the westernized Ukrainians, who want to join the free-western nations, have decided to use the Ukrainian name of their capital in order to distance themselves from their Russian controlled passed.
Kiev is a former Khazar fortress and the 3rd capital of Russia since 862, since only in 1923 Ukrainians appeared on this territory
You will not find any mention of Ukrainians anywhere before 1923
I wish the best for ukraine but I'm 100% certain at the end of this unless nato intervenes russia will probably take ukraine, ukraine doesn't have enough firepower and men to fight off russia, it's the sad truth.
I don't know how it ends, but Russia is not going to be able to take *and keep* all of Ukraine.
Russia probably doesn't have the manpower to just straight up annex Ukraine as a whole. Even if the Ukrainian leadership signed a peace deal annexing Ukraine to Russia, a guerrilla war of uncontainable proportions would begin
@@SilvanaDil Russia doesn't want to take Ukraine, it wants to kick NATO out of it.
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Unfortunately this Ukraine-Russia conflict is being told from only one point of view. We all know that there is always two sides to every story. If you want to actually understand what's happening as opposed to just "sticking to the script" then you need to please watch this interview with Vijay Prashad - ua-cam.com/video/OiTxlyiKVT0/v-deo.html
Not really. Only one point of view I’m concerned with. Ukraine getting invaded 🇺🇦. Putin wants to increase his sphere of influence by taking over Ukraine and at the same time, make Ukraine a neutral state if he can’t. How about letting Ukraine be it’s own sovereign nation and deciding what path and future they want to take.
@@kev792 Yet Biden just talked about regime change in a sovereign nation: Russia. But that's OK because it's the United States. Oh, and his advisors talked back Biden's words because our allies, Germany especially, came out and said Biden's comments weren't "useful."
@@yvonneclaes5208 US isn't actually considering a regime change as a policy. But if any normal person who is with Ukraine doesn't want Putin out of power, than they're fooling themselves.
@@yvonneclaes5208 Literally everyone in Europe wants Putin gone. Biden just said it out loud from his important position. A lot of people in Russia want Putin gone.
@@vaahtobileet You missed my point completely. It shouldn't matter what NATO or the United States wants. Russia is an independent country. Your response drips with arrogance.
If I wanted to watch propaganda, I'd turn on my TV. Hard pass.
How is this propaganda? What's misleading about this?
@@chadwickvon8019 Too much to educate you about.
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@@yvonneclaes5208 lol well that definitely answered my question. I was being serious but oh well, you can keep being bitter for whatever reason.
@@chadwickvon8019 It’s false information, that’s what’s misleading..
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To state such things is stupid and irresponsible.. does one think shaming those who clearly don't care find this a good idea? It's just pushing them further. I hope it doesn't happen but with their response the worst will come true. Weak video, this is making things worse by spreading garbage.
Western propaganda, no thanks!
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Comments like this make me curious just how badly the Russian people are being lied to about how many of their soldiers are surrendering or dying. And if they're being told how many tens of trillions if not hundreds of trillions of rubles worth of military equipment they've lost.
@@liamengram6326 False
lmao what about the Russian propaganda? I thought Russia wasn't going to invade, and were just doing normal exercises on the border? As soon as they attacked, those internet keyboard Putin bots changed their tune once again. "W-What about the West? We were totally provoked guys! The West are the bad guys here *bombs hospital in another country*"
The Russian military was never strong before n today ,, they do the same way in the WW2 today as well,, don't you think the reason why they lost so many soldier During WW2 n today too,, because they always used thier man like a shield running toward the bullets ...
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Gotta boo this video choice! I am addicted to your jokes and laughs. Can't watch it!!! BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! 👎
Then don't watch this one