oh wow , I'm moved to tears , that's exactly how it was when I went with dad in his ARC owner driver lorry , the deep red dashboard colour , my feet resting on tow chain and wheel spanner etc , delivery tickets on the engine cover the smell of flask coffee , and that unforgettable engine sound . we did a lot of loads to Bryco nr Taunton from Moreton Dorchester. thanks for posting this video. Kev .
This reminds me so much of driving the Leyland Bison I once used to part own. It too had a 680 power plus engine, and just like this machine, sounded GLORIOUS!
@@andyrichards2569 yep, and you would always be in the right gear at roundabouts and junctions to keep momentum.......unlike this modern automated crap that needs up to 5 seconds to give you the most inappropriate gear to eventually pull away in........
@@andypreston1524 Nearest I get is my 300 Discovery ( never the fastest or most powerful tool in the box ) with 3-3.5 T up behind . And your taking a load where you cant afford to let it start wagging you !! 30mph ( 4th at about 1400 rpm ) on the flat and on slight inclines and 22-25 mph down hill .. And yes you got to judge the gaps to flow onto roundabouts and approaching lights and have it in the right cog
I used to travel from Milton Keynes to Scarborough at weekends to see my girlfriend. Arriving at the top of Staxton Hill meant the weekend was about to start. Great video, thanks for sharing
Brings back some memories, i drove one on bulk haulage. 680 engine david brown box. Then i had one with the not so reliable TL 11 engine. Good old 680 .carpet and a blanket over the engine cover. Made it a little bit quieter.
Lovely 0.680 roar! I had Finnish built Jyry-SISU with that engine. Max torque at 1100 rpm, but runs like a rabbit after some 1600 rpm:) Here we had ZF 6 spd trans and 2-spd diffs. At 22 tons SISU with 0.680 could run some 125km/h. Lady Volvos some 95:)
I regularly go down Staxton Hill in my 44t artic. Nearly to a stop at the top (about where the coach is parked) and select 3rd, out of 12. Exhaust brake will then hold it steady to the bottom. Tis amazing the number of drivers who get impatient with me. They'd be delayed even longer, if I came down faster and, cooked the brake pads. Going UP, empty, can be nearly as slow due to lack of traction in a 6x2.
Driven new and old this has so much more about it I’ve driven loads of these for arc and ECC would drive these again no bastard trackers or FORS on your own all day 😁
Takes me back. Had 3 bits of old carpet over the engine cover to muffle the noise . Rolls engine in mine . Never got stuck in soft ground when others did. My first love ❤️...
Worked on them as a young fells some had 680 leyland with aec gearbox others had rolls 220 and David brown gearbox we used to replace the David brown box with a more reliable Eaton fuller box good muck shifter in its day although steering was heavy to the left when loaded
My dad took me out in a Scammell trunker when his ERF was in for service back in 1970, i remember the sound of that engine but my over riding memory was the smell in the cab of fibreglass.
Used to work on these as a mechanic way back. Most of ours were fitted with Rolls Royce engines. Loved road testing them as I felt like I was driving a 'real' wagon.
Mate, much as I love this video and glad you've uploaded it, please dispenses with the paraphernalia next time you do a Routeman vid. The ex ARC Scammell I rode in 30 years back never had anything like that.
I had a friend way back in the 70s who had the Scammell Trunker 2, a six wheel tractor unit with the same engine six speed gate change gear lever no splitter, boy could that baby pull.
Leyland O600-series, thats is ENGINE! What a roar at low rpms. Unbeliewable torgue at 1100 rpms. I had Finnish built Jyry-SISU from 1972. With 16tons of clay Jyry consumed only 20 liters/100km. Good runner also on highways, With full load you could have 120km/h . SISUs here had axles, howyou could have 120km/h or more. I had this O.680 engined in active duty in 2006. Restored it .
I use to drive the Leyland National mk2 with the O.680 engine and semi-auto box. Would easily pull away from stand still in 4th gear and could rev all day long on the governer and not miss a beat. Seemed more reliable then the turbocharged O.510 engine and didn't blow up as much. Love the 680 roar from low to peak revs. Very addictive.
I remember driving one of these as a black oil carrier on the Isle of Man, the engine sound is as I remember, my old girl had a gate change box, no jumping gears but once mastered was as sweet as a nut, still got the scammell name plate. HFQ.
Nice to see and hear almost smell the diesel fumes. Just as well it wasn’t loaded to the gunnels. Can only imagine going up Staxton fully loaded back in the day. Plumes of black smoke on some wagons. I know this isn’t a Gardner. Can’t believe he caught up to something going even slower than that old Scammell. Lol...👍
Greatness! Does anyone remember the Volvo garage at the bottom of Staxton Hill? I'm going back 30 years, father and son worked it and the mother ran the cafe, I went one day and the cafe ran on a geny and she'd just had mains power put on, well she was moaning like hell, running round in a flap, kept burning the toast, eggs too quick etc, too much power! Father and son came in absolutely filthy and sat down to massive breakfasts and piles of toast, proper cafe, salt of the earth people, few and far between now, everything has been yuppiefied!
The glovebox lid push-button/lock. It looks like the old lock which you found on General Motors car gloveboxes, a sort of a skull shape except in this instance it is upside-down.
A song for Martin lythe of Staxton. If you look upon on the distance there is Staxton hill it's a place I'll never leave nor I ever will, IM A BORING BASTARD!!!!
@1100HondaCB The Bristol RE was the test bed for the 500 family of engines, which would later be fitted to the Leyland National and after more development, to other trucks and buses. The 500 non-turbo, and 510 turbo, were laid on their side, and fitted to the RE, and National respectively. The turbo upright version was the 501, and was fited to some Bristol VR double decker bus, and Leyland Bison and Bufalo trucks. On the whole, the 680 engine was FAR superior to the "headless wonder" engine!
Esso tankers, as a mechanic in 1967/68/69/70. I remember changing clutches on Esso 8 wheeled tankers with David Brown split ratio box’s, what a nightmare, very heavy items. I think they were Seddon Atkinsons, Guys, or ERFs ?
@mrspivvy I was told many years ago, the 510 engine started out as the 501 and was non-turbo. It was intended to be used in lorries, but wasn't powerful enough, so it was turbo charged and called the 510.
No. They dont have Leyland Atlantean bus engines. The Scammell Routeman do have the same engines as the first generation dmu trains. Leyland Atlantean buses sound totally different. The 1980s Leyland Atlanteans can pass 3000rpm if floored in neutral! This did happen during early 1988 at MANCAT COLLEGE, LOWER HARDMAN STREET, MANCHESTER M3 3FP, with an early 1980s registered Leyland Atlantean bus, when a mad driver floored the gas pedal in neutral for half a second, and the engine screamed like a banshee at about 3200 rpm!! IT SOUNDED VERY EVIL!!! Since that incident, which left me with a mental disorder, i really hated all 80s models Leyland Atlantean buses, because they are the works of satan! But the Scammell Routeman is a real classic, its a superb synthesizer!
@MegaZsolti Leyland O.680 engines can run upto 2400 RPM, but most like this one, are governed down to about 2000 RPM. This improves reliability, and the engine will last longer. Frankly, running 2400rpm, would be like torture!
the exhaust WOOW!!!! Gareth Malone has not a clue a about music untill he has sat next to a Leyland680 being thrashed. If you wonder who Gareth is, he s i a choreographer working at the london symphony orchestra,and may have seen him training choirboys to sing on bbc tv. WELL HE DOES NOT KNOW MUSIC!!!IF IHE HAS NOT HEARD A 680 WITH A BROKEN EXAUST ELBOW IN A BRISTOL VR!!!. I have a tape off that F-----g MAGIC. From A680 loving oldboilerdog.
@mrspivvy The 510 was extensively used in the mk1 National as most of us enthusiasts know quite well. It had its problems, especially if neglected. It was used in some Bristol REs, but not used as extensively as the 680 in terms of various vehicles. The 680 was a far more reliable unit and didn't smoke as much. I think the 510 was seen as a performance unit with a different approach to engine design at the time.
The 510 rushed into production as a smaller unit than it's intended 11 litre size to replace the 0680. Absolute tragedy as it would have been a lifesaver for Leyland commercial vehicles.
Sounds brill just like my dads 8 legger Derbyshire stone tipper plz get more people to do more vids with classic trucks d series fodder attic if poss with scammell coupling my dads 1st trucking job
I drove up and down Staxton Hill (not in one of these unfortunately) going between Beverley and Scarborough in 1999 and found it unnervingly steep,like no way would I have wanted the vehicle to suddenly stall on it.
You gotta remember in summer your left leg got cooked and in winter your right leg got frozen blanket over your knees no radio you couldnt hear a radio over the roar , but a lot of young men cut their teeth on them and became wise old men A lot of them quite deaf and with dodgy left knees , but as with the railwaymen dry old characetures and with a rye grin .... Good people good days mostly dirty work and long hours ....
@Gbe180 Yeah right. some of us "steering wheel attendants" learnt on crash boxes, and I fail to see the corellation between the driver and the evolution of truck design.nobody ever consulted me when designing a new truck. whilst I'd relish the chance to drive something like this scammell, if I was grossing 44 tons and had to get from south wales to Penzance and back in the same shift then it'd be the Scania R420 everytime. why is doing the speed limit on single track A roads a negative point?
Tell you what, I'd pay good money to rie shotgun in that wagon! Listening to the 680 roaring away up the hill brough a tear to my eye; much the same as lstening to a long forgotten favourite piece of music. Many thanks for posting and I mean that sincerly!
I love the sound of that 680, when I put this on, I'm a kid again and my dad's driving one of Foresters handymans or beavers, miss you dad
my dad had a scammell tipper for a bit.
I could listen to this all week - pure music to the ears. Memories of going in my dad's wagon.
Mikaela Bowen you'd be deaf at the end of the week.
@@billalbion Pardon?
They were Good Trucks and Drives in those days, their not lorry Drivers today, ! !
@@billalbion what
oh wow , I'm moved to tears , that's exactly how it was when I went with dad in his ARC owner driver lorry , the deep red dashboard colour , my feet resting on tow chain and wheel spanner etc , delivery tickets on the engine cover the smell of flask coffee , and that unforgettable engine sound . we did a lot of loads to Bryco nr Taunton from Moreton Dorchester. thanks for posting this video. Kev .
Kevin Osborne ive the same brilliant memories the reg was JIA 425 my uncles routeman.
Thats the life I had with my dad, chains spanners, they were men then
I come back to this video every week or so love that sound, 680, nothing sounds the same
I will never get sick of listening to this!
680 at it's best!
This reminds me so much of driving the Leyland Bison I once used to part own. It too had a 680 power plus engine, and just like this machine, sounded GLORIOUS!
This is the lorry which made me want to be an HGV driver..... Never got to drive one.... sub and like from me.... Thanks for sharing
Top video. What a lovely sound. And she's clearly in fine condition to do that hill with that ease!
I used to love riding with dad up and down staxton hill in his eight wheeler foden tipper tank from rugby cement in the late 80s
British engineering at its best. For character, you can keep your Volvo's, Scania's, DAF's etc.
That is what i call a real man's lorry
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Don’t forget ERF, Foden, Leyland, Atkinson etc
You needed real arms and a brain and a strong left leg to drive one of them all day 5&1/2 - 6 days a week .
@@andyrichards2569 yep, and you would always be in the right gear at roundabouts and junctions to keep momentum.......unlike this modern automated crap that needs up to 5 seconds to give you the most inappropriate gear to eventually pull away in........
@@andypreston1524 Nearest I get is my 300 Discovery ( never the fastest or most powerful tool in the box ) with 3-3.5 T up behind .
And your taking a load where you cant afford to let it start wagging you !! 30mph ( 4th at about 1400 rpm ) on the flat and on slight inclines and 22-25 mph down hill ..
And yes you got to judge the gaps to flow onto roundabouts and approaching lights and have it in the right cog
That engine sound is music to my ears. I love these old trucks.
I used to travel from Milton Keynes to Scarborough at weekends to see my girlfriend. Arriving at the top of Staxton Hill meant the weekend was about to start.
Great video, thanks for sharing
Sounds similar to the mk2 Leyland Nationals I drove 20 years ago. I love that 680 sound.
Brings back some memories, i drove one on bulk haulage. 680 engine david brown box. Then i had one with the not so reliable TL 11 engine. Good old 680 .carpet and a blanket over the engine cover. Made it a little bit quieter.
Lovely 0.680 roar! I had Finnish built Jyry-SISU with that engine. Max torque at 1100 rpm, but runs like a rabbit after some 1600 rpm:) Here we had ZF 6 spd trans and 2-spd diffs. At 22 tons SISU with 0.680 could run some 125km/h. Lady Volvos some 95:)
I regularly go down Staxton Hill in my 44t artic. Nearly to a stop at the top (about where the coach is parked) and select 3rd, out of 12. Exhaust brake will then hold it steady to the bottom. Tis amazing the number of drivers who get impatient with me. They'd be delayed even longer, if I came down faster and, cooked the brake pads.
Going UP, empty, can be nearly as slow due to lack of traction in a 6x2.
Yaaaaayy Leyland engine..Sweet sweet grunting sound ❤
Driven new and old this has so much more about it I’ve driven loads of these for arc and ECC would drive these again no bastard trackers or FORS on your own all day 😁
Takes me back. Had 3 bits of old carpet over the engine cover to muffle the noise . Rolls engine in mine . Never got stuck in soft ground when others did. My first love ❤️...
Back again! Beautiful sound, and oh so many memories
Nothing sounddd
The 0.680 must have made the grade to go into a Scammell!!
Certainly a gutsy old school plodder!!
Worked on them as a young fells some had 680 leyland with aec gearbox others had rolls 220 and David brown gearbox we used to replace the David brown box with a more reliable Eaton fuller box good muck shifter in its day although steering was heavy to the left when loaded
Showing my age but I can remember when you saw these everywhere, a good muck shifting wagon.
The Scammell Routeman 8 legger is my favourite tipper of all my time.
You certainly don't need a CD Player with a sound system like this.. Very nice :-)
I drove mk2 Nationals with the 680 in and what memories this brings just to listen to that 680 sing its merry tune.
My dad took me out in a Scammell trunker when his ERF was in for service back in 1970, i remember the sound of that engine but my over riding memory was the smell in the cab of fibreglass.
Used to work on these as a mechanic way back. Most of ours were fitted with Rolls Royce engines. Loved road testing them as I felt like I was driving a 'real' wagon.
I used to work on rolls Royce eagle 290 in a SA 401 great sound like this
Mate, much as I love this video and glad you've uploaded it, please dispenses with the paraphernalia next time you do a Routeman vid.
The ex ARC Scammell I rode in 30 years back never had anything like that.
I had a friend way back in the 70s who had the Scammell Trunker 2, a six wheel tractor unit with the same engine six speed gate change gear lever no splitter, boy could that baby pull.
Leyland O600-series, thats is ENGINE! What a roar at low rpms. Unbeliewable torgue at 1100 rpms. I had Finnish built Jyry-SISU from 1972. With 16tons of clay Jyry consumed only 20 liters/100km. Good runner also on highways, With full load you could have 120km/h .
SISUs here had axles, howyou could have 120km/h or more.
I had this O.680 engined in active duty in 2006.
Restored it .
I use to drive the Leyland National mk2 with the O.680 engine and semi-auto box. Would easily pull away from stand still in 4th gear and could rev all day long on the governer and not miss a beat. Seemed more reliable then the turbocharged O.510 engine and didn't blow up as much. Love the 680 roar from low to peak revs. Very addictive.
That's what you call "in the power" lovely stuff, great upload.
I remember driving one of these as a black oil carrier on the Isle of Man, the engine sound is as I remember, my old girl had a gate change box, no jumping gears but once mastered was as sweet as a nut, still got the scammell name plate. HFQ.
excellent vid,sounds so sweat takes me back to my childhood,my dad drove an old girl like this one
Nice gear change awesome
Nice sound, thanks!
If it's yorkshire, be aware of Foggy and his lot.
Nice to see and hear almost smell the diesel fumes. Just as well it wasn’t loaded to the gunnels. Can only imagine going up Staxton fully loaded back in the day. Plumes of black smoke on some wagons. I know this isn’t a Gardner. Can’t believe he caught up to something going even slower than that old Scammell. Lol...👍
Listen to that girl sing ❤
The long uphill climb with that 680 singing its merry tune is better than the best music.
my dad drove one of these after progressing from the atkinson borderer. it was hard work in them days,
What a magnificent sight. She did well
Greatness! Does anyone remember the Volvo garage at the bottom of Staxton Hill? I'm going back 30 years, father and son worked it and the mother ran the cafe, I went one day and the cafe ran on a geny and she'd just had mains power put on, well she was moaning like hell, running round in a flap, kept burning the toast, eggs too quick etc, too much power! Father and son came in absolutely filthy and sat down to massive breakfasts and piles of toast, proper cafe, salt of the earth people, few and far between now, everything has been yuppiefied!
Gawd, I had an 8 wheeler with a 220 Rolls in it, noisy or what !! Was glad when it got stolen and I replaced it with a DAF 2300 😬
Scammell with an Atlantean engine.......love it! :-D
The glovebox lid push-button/lock. It looks like the old lock which you found on General Motors car gloveboxes, a sort of a skull shape except in this instance it is upside-down.
4:13 mins of pure music
@bunglebiker At least you can understand why I loved driving mk2 Leyland Nationals with the same 680 engine. You can't beat the 680 roar.
A song for Martin lythe of Staxton. If you look upon on the distance there is Staxton hill it's a place I'll never leave nor I ever will, IM A BORING BASTARD!!!!
@1100HondaCB The Bristol RE was the test bed for the 500 family of engines, which would later be fitted to the Leyland National and after more development, to other trucks and buses. The 500 non-turbo, and 510 turbo, were laid on their side, and fitted to the RE, and National respectively. The turbo upright version was the 501, and was fited to some Bristol VR double decker bus, and Leyland Bison and Bufalo trucks. On the whole, the 680 engine was FAR superior to the "headless wonder" engine!
Wow that 680 is just purring what an engine.........John
Going past the coach party, I bet she turned a few heads! Lovely old truck. I just love the sound of the 680. Did any have the 510 engine?
No.
3:15 get outta the way Mr Volvo, or I'm gonna eat ya!
I remember sitting with my dad in his Esso tankers crawling up hills. Lol
Esso tankers, as a mechanic in 1967/68/69/70. I remember changing clutches on Esso 8 wheeled tankers with David Brown split ratio box’s, what a nightmare, very heavy items. I think they were Seddon Atkinsons, Guys, or ERFs ?
@mrspivvy I was told many years ago, the 510 engine started out as the 501 and was non-turbo. It was intended to be used in lorries, but wasn't powerful enough, so it was turbo charged and called the 510.
No. They dont have Leyland Atlantean bus engines. The Scammell Routeman do have the same engines as the first generation dmu trains. Leyland Atlantean buses sound totally different. The 1980s Leyland Atlanteans can pass 3000rpm if floored in neutral! This did happen during early 1988 at MANCAT COLLEGE, LOWER HARDMAN STREET, MANCHESTER M3 3FP, with an early 1980s registered Leyland Atlantean bus, when a mad driver floored the gas pedal in neutral for half a second, and the engine screamed like a banshee at about 3200 rpm!! IT SOUNDED VERY EVIL!!! Since that incident, which left me with a mental disorder, i really hated all 80s models Leyland Atlantean buses, because they are the works of satan! But the Scammell Routeman is a real classic, its a superb synthesizer!
we allways referred them as camels good work horses even if a bit uncomfortable
@Lauder10R He'd probably only have to dip the clutch to bring it to a dead stand!
@MegaZsolti Leyland O.680 engines can run upto 2400 RPM, but most like this one, are governed down to about 2000 RPM. This improves reliability, and the engine will last longer. Frankly, running 2400rpm, would be like torture!
Thats what you call driving q lorry... i bet he was deaf for the rest of the year after driving that beast
the exhaust WOOW!!!! Gareth Malone has not a clue a about music untill he has sat next to a Leyland680 being thrashed. If you wonder who Gareth is, he s i a choreographer working at the london symphony orchestra,and may have seen him training choirboys to sing on bbc tv. WELL HE DOES NOT KNOW MUSIC!!!IF IHE HAS NOT HEARD A 680 WITH A BROKEN EXAUST ELBOW IN A BRISTOL VR!!!.
I have a tape off that F-----g MAGIC.
From A680 loving oldboilerdog.
@mrspivvy The 510 was extensively used in the mk1 National as most of us enthusiasts know quite well. It had its problems, especially if neglected. It was used in some Bristol REs, but not used as extensively as the 680 in terms of various vehicles. The 680 was a far more reliable unit and didn't smoke as much. I think the 510 was seen as a performance unit with a different approach to engine design at the time.
The 510 rushed into production as a smaller unit than it's intended 11 litre size to replace the 0680. Absolute tragedy as it would have been a lifesaver for Leyland commercial vehicles.
Sounds brill just like my dads 8 legger Derbyshire stone tipper plz get more people to do more vids with classic trucks d series fodder attic if poss with scammell coupling my dads 1st trucking job
Sound Poland JELCZ . :D :D
I can even remember the smell in the cab, fiberglass with a spray on? Fleck,
I drove up and down Staxton Hill (not in one of these unfortunately) going between Beverley and Scarborough in 1999 and found it unnervingly steep,like no way would I have wanted the vehicle to suddenly stall on it.
Wow how times have changed. There faster than cars these days.!!!!!!
@1100HondaCB I think you are right, it was a short lived venture in wagons, anyway
how much power in a 680? about 200 bhp or less?
You gotta remember in summer your left leg got cooked and in winter your right leg got frozen blanket over your knees no radio you couldnt hear a radio over the roar , but a lot of young men cut their teeth on them and became wise old men A lot of them quite deaf and with dodgy left knees , but as with the railwaymen dry old characetures and with a rye grin .... Good people good days mostly dirty work and long hours ....
@Gbe180 Yeah right. some of us "steering wheel attendants" learnt on crash boxes, and I fail to see the corellation between the driver and the evolution of truck design.nobody ever consulted me when designing a new truck. whilst I'd relish the chance to drive something like this scammell, if I was grossing 44 tons and had to get from south wales to Penzance and back in the same shift then it'd be the Scania R420 everytime. why is doing the speed limit on single track A roads a negative point?
Is this the same truck as in your other vids, red, sheeted 8 wheel tipper? engine sounds much nicer on this vid.
lovely truck 680 leyland
One word, music!
brings bak the memories going with my dad on muck shift in one of theses
@1100HondaCB I think maybe some leyland rigids had the fixed head engine, but not scammells
you my friend have big balls I know staxton well
Tell you what, I'd pay good money to rie shotgun in that wagon!
Listening to the 680 roaring away up the hill brough a tear to my eye; much the same as lstening to a long forgotten favourite piece of music.
Many thanks for posting and I mean that sincerly!
Whst engines in this,, please,,,,
Leyland A680
no paddle shift or pre select ?????? lol, a proper "mans" truck
Wouldnt get no Nancy Boys driving that...
@Deezel69 what kind of gearbox does this truck have ? six speed crash box ?
sutton bank's a good hill though,how do they compare to each other?
Sounds like your trucks empty no load on ??!
Were these the Detroit lump ?
I want one.
Is this 2nd or 3rd gear?
That's a British man's lorry. Wouldn't get no foreign Nancy boy handling that...
crikey,how steep?
is this your Routeman?
propa sound not like todays shyte they just whistle
Horrible hill to go up and not to good coming down with a load of potatoes on lol 😂
Harry sloan.
The engine seems to be terribly labouring. Don't you have a higher gear?
That's not labouring, she's taking it in her stride, believe it or not they sound even better working hard!