Michael is much smarter than the normal observers. He calculated this scene in that moment, he leaved the train. Oliva needed Walters and Bells medicine to cross over to the other universe and to reactivate her powers. Michael knew the 0.0001% chance, that allows the Fringe-Team to defeat the observers.
That whole scene from when Peter attacks Windmark to Olivia picking up the bullet and having one final surge of Cortexiphan powers to finally kill that bastard was AWESOME! It was logic vs. emotion and emotion won.
Ironically it wasn't even logic on Windmark's side - he had the opportunity to kill her and threw her down to show his superiority and gloat. Big mistake.
Its most definitely Olivia who does it - the effect on the skyline happens in the background to Olivia, not Michael. Its a call back to previous scenes were Olivia used her powers. At no point are we ever shown Michael being telekinetic.
I don't believe that Michael had anything to do with Windmark's death for a number of reasons: 1. Olivia is the one with the Cortexiphan powers and what happens right before Windmark becomes Skidmark with the city lights going off is very similar to her ability to turn off the lights in David Robert Jones' test. 2. We know Olivia has telekinetic abilities as we've seen her redirect bullets in Season 4 and in the 2026 future we saw her "catch" one of Walters boxes before it hit the floor in the lab. This explains the car sliding towards Windmark. 3. Michael obviously has some sort of special ability but what we see happen doesn't reflect what we know of those abilities so for him to suddenly have telekinetic powers doesn't make sense. 4. In my mind, Windmark (like the other Observers) can see the possible futures but he did not factor in Olivia's Cortexiphan abilities for whatever reason - maybe he too thought they were gone. Perhaps this is because after Season 4 we are told that she had basically used up all the Cortexiphan in her system (or words to that effect). This was obviously not the case. I think Windmark was more confused as to what was happening in the moment that he couldn't see the danger coming before it was too late. 5. Most importantly, the viewer has the strongest connection to the main characters of Olivia, Peter and Water (no offence Astrid!) and so it's a huge emotional payoff to see Olivia be the badass that ends Windmark for everything he's done, not least of which is murdering her daughter Etta. Thinking that it was Michael doesn't have the same resonance as it does believing it was all Olivia. Now what *is* odd and has always confused me is Michaels "shhh" gesture right afterwards. I can't figure that one out at all.
I figure the 'shh' gesture is more about the fact that she again has her powers. Everyone said that they would be gone after the jumps but it seems that she kept them. The effect is that there is a good chance she can a)develop them again despite the re-set and/or b)that she will retain her memories even with the re-set. Either would be important factors that she needs to keep quiet about.
I actually think the whole fiasco of how Michael got captured was so that Olivia would kill Cpatain Windmark. He is crazy intelligent and would not let himself get captured for a good reason. So, the shh is probably I planned for you to kill him and it was the only way for us to revert the timeline.
He may have affected Windmark's reaction to Olivia's demonstration of power - but then Windy isn't fully aware of what she can do either, he still sees humans as inherently inferior so didn't perceive the danger until it was too late.
Has anyone ever wondered why the Observer never shoot Peter with actual bullet @2:45? Anyway that would have been reset when Walter / September took Michael to 2167
Anomaly XB6783746 is more evolved, which means the new human kinds would have a lot more adventage in both IQ and EQ. What if they also invade the past era?
The entire point is that they will have emotions, and therefore compassion. They wouldn't ruin the planet in the first place, so they would never need to invade.
@@persekarva6444 Back in WW1 and WW2, the people also had emotions(mostly hatred) which made them invade and kill each other. So does that mean having emotional abilities even better than the natives means having abilities to feel positive ones such as love or sympathy rather than negative ones?
You don't get the full implications of the series for these future humans derived from Michael. Binge watch the entire thing from the start so you have the full perspective. Cortexiphan distills the full mental potential of a human from early childhood into adulthood. The powers derived from that retained potential were overwhelmingly linked to emotion in the trial subjects. That means from the get go Cortexiphan was always a non starter for the Observers - hence how fascinated they are by Olivia. Even as limited as she is to normal human physiology her power almost literally shattered reality at the end of season 4. Consider for a moment that in the series Cortexiphan has always been a limited factor introduced externally to characters. Always requiring a supply, and someone to administer it. Imagine having the production and regulation of the drug being GM'd into our metabolism from birth. Combine that with Michael's greater EQ amping the powers to insane levels. Couple that to dramatically increased IQ in all Observers (and Michael in a more autistic fashion). This gives very fine control of their powers, the creative vision for what to do with them and power to achieve basically anything. The people of the future would basically be gods, with little need for those implants at all to enhance their natural abilities. They would have no need to invade the past, as they could simply solve any problem with their own world by using their powers. If not individually, then collectively once their powers become as homogenized and predictable as the Observers had.
Also an important fact - Olivia's power can literally shatter reality. By comparison this seemed a trifle weak sauce - she could have literally vaporised him. Or even better - pushed the bullet necklace through his head at hyper velocity.
My impression was that Olivia just caught him by surprise. He moved, just not in time. He doesn't hold any value in emotion and Cortexiphan is emotion based. He would have read Olivia and seen the love/fear for Etta but didn't realize that he was in any danger until he got a face full of car.
I thought that it was Olivia who used her Cortexiphan-Powers to throw the car at Windmark and Michael prevented him from dodging it by jumping through time. Wouldn't make any sense if Windmark could teleport out of the explosion in Donald's/September's apartment unharmed and was not able to dodge the car.
Or she simply held him in place with her powers too. They can literally open a doorway between worlds. I doubt keeping one observer rooted to the spot would have been such a challenge. It makes more sense considering how much effort it seems to take from her and the disruption caused just to throw a semi truck.
The thing is that he did not sense the danger from Olivia which was much less mundane than a mere chemical explosion. The cortexiphan abilities were a bit outside of even the Observer's wheelhouse. A being with cortexiphan exposure as a child combined Michael's greater emotive core and greater logical capacity to control the abilities would be a somewhat godlike being - which makes it ironic that the Observer's really didn't pay that much attention to it compared to Walter and Bell.
It was totally Oliva. She had the ability to collapse Universes in Season 4. Season 5, she just honed in her ability to not just phase that truck through universes, but perhaps collapse the portal where Windmark escaped to.
Either that or she simply slowed Windmark down so that his inevitable escape attempt did not make it in time. I think still being partially there when the truck hit was enough, like having the back of your head caved in.
Olivia does not have the ability to collapse universes. Bell simply harnessed the energy she was giving off at her most active state at the end of the series to power larger universe collapsing devices than the ones used in the previous episode that destroyed the town.
it sound a bit weird but what if it was Michael and Olivia together that killed Windmark ! i mean she has cortexiphan and he is empath so maybe they were still connected in some way and just amplifyed the power by projecting emotions himself§
The only continuity error I've found is how does Peter get the tulip at the end if post reset the invasion which led to Walter sending such letter never happened?
At the end of season 4 September appeared at the lab. He said to Walter : They are coming. Maybe 2012 year. They made a plan to defeat the Obser ers. He recorded the tapes. There is also the tape with private video to Peter. And maybe he asked someone to send this letter. The invasion happened in 2015 approximately when Olivia and Peter were at the park with their daughter. Probably it was the way I wrote. I read the same explanation in the comments. (Sorry for my bad English)
I don't think he calculated that he couldn't escape as we see his body disappear right at the moment of impact. To me it's more likely that he couldn't see what was going to happen due to the irregularity of Olivia being one of the Cortexiphan children, her ability being dormant for so long and perhaps undetectable to him. By the time he figured out what was happening it was too late.
Michael is much smarter than the normal observers. He calculated this scene in that moment, he leaved the train. Oliva needed Walters and Bells medicine to cross over to the other universe and to reactivate her powers. Michael knew the 0.0001% chance, that allows the Fringe-Team to defeat the observers.
That whole scene from when Peter attacks Windmark to Olivia picking up the bullet and having one final surge of Cortexiphan powers to finally kill that bastard was AWESOME! It was logic vs. emotion and emotion won.
Ironically it wasn't even logic on Windmark's side - he had the opportunity to kill her and threw her down to show his superiority and gloat.
Big mistake.
Greatest death ever, i was giggling like crazy when i first saw it
"Peter! Peter, look! What did I say? That is cool!" - Walter
one of the funniest parts of the entire series
Walter at his best
that was all badass Olivia!!!
Its most definitely Olivia who does it - the effect on the skyline happens in the background to Olivia, not Michael. Its a call back to previous scenes were Olivia used her powers. At no point are we ever shown Michael being telekinetic.
It was definitely Olivia. She did it for Etta, thinking of the necklace.
That was enormously satisfying.
I don't believe that Michael had anything to do with Windmark's death for a number of reasons:
1. Olivia is the one with the Cortexiphan powers and what happens right before Windmark becomes Skidmark with the city lights going off is very similar to her ability to turn off the lights in David Robert Jones' test.
2. We know Olivia has telekinetic abilities as we've seen her redirect bullets in Season 4 and in the 2026 future we saw her "catch" one of Walters boxes before it hit the floor in the lab. This explains the car sliding towards Windmark.
3. Michael obviously has some sort of special ability but what we see happen doesn't reflect what we know of those abilities so for him to suddenly have telekinetic powers doesn't make sense.
4. In my mind, Windmark (like the other Observers) can see the possible futures but he did not factor in Olivia's Cortexiphan abilities for whatever reason - maybe he too thought they were gone. Perhaps this is because after Season 4 we are told that she had basically used up all the Cortexiphan in her system (or words to that effect). This was obviously not the case. I think Windmark was more confused as to what was happening in the moment that he couldn't see the danger coming before it was too late.
5. Most importantly, the viewer has the strongest connection to the main characters of Olivia, Peter and Water (no offence Astrid!) and so it's a huge emotional payoff to see Olivia be the badass that ends Windmark for everything he's done, not least of which is murdering her daughter Etta. Thinking that it was Michael doesn't have the same resonance as it does believing it was all Olivia.
Now what *is* odd and has always confused me is Michaels "shhh" gesture right afterwards. I can't figure that one out at all.
I figure the 'shh' gesture is more about the fact that she again has her powers. Everyone said that they would be gone after the jumps but it seems that she kept them. The effect is that there is a good chance she can a)develop them again despite the re-set and/or b)that she will retain her memories even with the re-set. Either would be important factors that she needs to keep quiet about.
I actually think the whole fiasco of how Michael got captured was so that Olivia would kill Cpatain Windmark. He is crazy intelligent and would not let himself get captured for a good reason. So, the shh is probably I planned for you to kill him and it was the only way for us to revert the timeline.
thelightningwave yep that’s exactly it.
thelightningwave the boy is just an Observer. And his fathers son.
He may have affected Windmark's reaction to Olivia's demonstration of power - but then Windy isn't fully aware of what she can do either, he still sees humans as inherently inferior so didn't perceive the danger until it was too late.
Finally. I'd only been screaming at the television telling them to give Olivia Cortexipan for like the entire season!
Has anyone ever wondered why the Observer never shoot Peter with actual bullet @2:45?
Anyway that would have been reset when Walter / September took Michael to 2167
I always thought it was neat that the actor that played Windmark was the American VA for Char from Gundam
Anomaly XB6783746 is more evolved, which means the new human kinds would have a lot more adventage in both IQ and EQ. What if they also invade the past era?
The entire point is that they will have emotions, and therefore compassion. They wouldn't ruin the planet in the first place, so they would never need to invade.
@@persekarva6444 Back in WW1 and WW2, the people also had emotions(mostly hatred) which made them invade and kill each other. So does that mean having emotional abilities even better than the natives means having abilities to feel positive ones such as love or sympathy rather than negative ones?
You don't get the full implications of the series for these future humans derived from Michael.
Binge watch the entire thing from the start so you have the full perspective.
Cortexiphan distills the full mental potential of a human from early childhood into adulthood.
The powers derived from that retained potential were overwhelmingly linked to emotion in the trial subjects.
That means from the get go Cortexiphan was always a non starter for the Observers - hence how fascinated they are by Olivia.
Even as limited as she is to normal human physiology her power almost literally shattered reality at the end of season 4.
Consider for a moment that in the series Cortexiphan has always been a limited factor introduced externally to characters.
Always requiring a supply, and someone to administer it.
Imagine having the production and regulation of the drug being GM'd into our metabolism from birth.
Combine that with Michael's greater EQ amping the powers to insane levels.
Couple that to dramatically increased IQ in all Observers (and Michael in a more autistic fashion).
This gives very fine control of their powers, the creative vision for what to do with them and power to achieve basically anything.
The people of the future would basically be gods, with little need for those implants at all to enhance their natural abilities.
They would have no need to invade the past, as they could simply solve any problem with their own world by using their powers.
If not individually, then collectively once their powers become as homogenized and predictable as the Observers had.
Also an important fact to remember - Olivia was injected with Cortexiphan the episode before.
Also an important fact - Olivia's power can literally shatter reality.
By comparison this seemed a trifle weak sauce - she could have literally vaporised him.
Or even better - pushed the bullet necklace through his head at hyper velocity.
HEAVILY injected in fact in order that she could make several cross world jumps.
My impression was that Olivia just caught him by surprise. He moved, just not in time. He doesn't hold any value in emotion and Cortexiphan is emotion based. He would have read Olivia and seen the love/fear for Etta but didn't realize that he was in any danger until he got a face full of car.
I thought that it was Olivia who used her Cortexiphan-Powers to throw the car at Windmark and Michael prevented him from dodging it by jumping through time.
Wouldn't make any sense if Windmark could teleport out of the explosion in Donald's/September's apartment unharmed and was not able to dodge the car.
Or she simply held him in place with her powers too.
They can literally open a doorway between worlds.
I doubt keeping one observer rooted to the spot would have been such a challenge.
It makes more sense considering how much effort it seems to take from her and the disruption caused just to throw a semi truck.
The thing is that he did not sense the danger from Olivia which was much less mundane than a mere chemical explosion.
The cortexiphan abilities were a bit outside of even the Observer's wheelhouse.
A being with cortexiphan exposure as a child combined Michael's greater emotive core and greater logical capacity to control the abilities would be a somewhat godlike being - which makes it ironic that the Observer's really didn't pay that much attention to it compared to Walter and Bell.
the music in the beginning reminds call of duty
It was totally Oliva. She had the ability to collapse Universes in Season 4. Season 5, she just honed in her ability to not just phase that truck through universes, but perhaps collapse the portal where Windmark escaped to.
Either that or she simply slowed Windmark down so that his inevitable escape attempt did not make it in time.
I think still being partially there when the truck hit was enough, like having the back of your head caved in.
Olivia does not have the ability to collapse universes.
Bell simply harnessed the energy she was giving off at her most active state at the end of the series to power larger universe collapsing devices than the ones used in the previous episode that destroyed the town.
it sound a bit weird but what if it was Michael and Olivia together that killed Windmark ! i mean she has cortexiphan and he is empath so maybe they were still connected in some way and just amplifyed the power by projecting emotions himself§
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I think Olivia moved the Car, and Michael prevented Windmark from "zapping" away in time, so he gets crushed by that car.
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The only continuity error I've found is how does Peter get the tulip at the end if post reset the invasion which led to Walter sending such letter never happened?
At the end of season 4 September appeared at the lab. He said to Walter : They are coming. Maybe 2012 year. They made a plan to defeat the Obser ers. He recorded the tapes. There is also the tape with private video to Peter. And maybe he asked someone to send this letter. The invasion happened in 2015 approximately when Olivia and Peter were at the park with their daughter. Probably it was the way I wrote. I read the same explanation in the comments. (Sorry for my bad English)
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Are some people that say that it's Michael
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So then who killed him??? Michael or Olivia?!!!
Olivia.
Olivia killed windmark, absorbing manhattan's power, he calculated he could not escape alive so just stood there.
I don't think he calculated that he couldn't escape as we see his body disappear right at the moment of impact. To me it's more likely that he couldn't see what was going to happen due to the irregularity of Olivia being one of the Cortexiphan children, her ability being dormant for so long and perhaps undetectable to him. By the time he figured out what was happening it was too late.
Looking at the scene again, it may be more likely that Michael killed Windmark based on their reactions and the massive effect on the skyline.