I agree. The designs have aged well. While I admittedly preferred the purity of the 560 SEC lines when I was a kid, I now see and appreciate the work that AMG put into these cars.
The basic Bruno Sacco design was awesome to begin with and the wide body modifications blend in well, yet gives the SEC a purposeful look and communicates that this car means business!
I just got two identical ones, theyre hotwheels cars though lol, i love the villainous look of a big body black Mercedes, lately I’ve been daily driving my w221 s65, black on black of course
You're a very lucky man! Yes, the stealth look of the Widebody is emulated in today's Mercedes. Keep driving and enjoying your cool cars! Thanks for watching and commenting.
This car was designed in the late 70’s and it was 20 ahead from anyone else … superbly machine , I used to see those in Adelaide around Middle Aged men back in 2010 but I haven’t seen them anymore last time I saw a 560 AMG would be 3-5 years ago this middle aged man with young son driving one , those are one of my favourite cars ever !
Thank you! You’ve probably seen an SGS (Styling Garage) built car. They did a widened version with Gullwing doors. There was some pretty crazy stuff in the Eighties 🙂
Hi Marco, great to hear from you. Is yours a W123 or W124 300D? Both lovely cars. Good luck with the restoration, the first one is always special! The factory SEC are timeless classics and Bruno Sacco masterpieces!
Yes, RM achieved an amazing result. Yet, the three sales before that achieved $160,000 - $200,000. Why this spread? Well, the car now sold by RM was low-mileage and came with full documentation. Low mileage and great provenance will always increase value. The lower results were for car in the 80,000-100,000 km range and presumably without much documentation. You also need a bit of luck and at least two persons, who want the car at the auction. An American business partner was present at the RM record sale and was surprised at the result. Apparently a great car and many bidders. Happy for the seller. So, it's complex and many factors to take into consideration. Thank you for viewing and commenting!
The review was very simple to understand and that made it cool to watch. My main concern is why wasn’t the 560 SEC AMG widebody sorted in manual? Seeing that auto-box makes it Incomplete in my eyes.
Per the video, customers purchased the vehicle from Mercedes and then sent it to AMG for further modification. So we can assume they didn't want a manual.
Thank you for your feedback and happy to hear that you enjoyed the video! As for the gearbox, you would need to address Mercedes on this one, since the 560 SEC came with automatic gearboxes only. Probably very few manuals could handle the torque of the engine. Someone mentions that AMG once converted a 560 SEC 'wide body' to manual for a UAE customer, using a 190 E 2.3-16 gearbox, but I haven't been able to confirm it.
@@jayjuggrnaut Correct. And as outlined below, these cars came with auto only. Whether the conversion of one car to manual was actually done, I haven't been able to verify.
@@petrolheadclassics ah I see. Ironically, one would’ve expected a Manual gearbox due to it fluidity being able to better handle higher torque than a robotic auto-box, but Merc favored the latter. I trust BMW, they’d have found a way to make a similar powerplant work flush with a manual stick.
@@1anre I agree with you and a manual gearbox would have suited the cars sporty credentials. I believ the reason is simply that there was no manual gearbox available to handle the torque of the 5.6l and 6.0l engines.
@@petrolheadclassics thanks for you response, will you also do videos about other older AMG's like the Hammer and the lesser known Babyhammer for example
@@MrConfrigo I'd be happy to, if we come across these cars. At the moment, this is the AMG-Mercedes we have on offer. An E60 is incoming. Do check my American friend's excellent video of a rare Hammer: ua-cam.com/video/Gwz60tPJDXs/v-deo.html
The original (pre Mercedes merger) W126 AMG SEC Widebody didn't have Aero I as on this car, but had ATS Germany made AMG Penta wheels, front 16 x 9J zero offset, rear 16 x 10 Et 12.7 minus. For his SEC widebody re creation, a buddy got a next to impossible to find set from Australia. AMG Beverly Hills and the other on the East coast may have assembled some widebody SEC's as well. These builds stopped when Daimler-Benz aka Mercedes bought AMG.
Thank you for your reply. If you read my comment below, you will see that I was in contact with the Head of AMG Classic, who also built these cars in his younger years with the company. We never discussed this in detail, but he did authenticate our car as genuine, AMG built.
Pre Mercedes - AMG merger, a number of larger Mercedes & AMG dealers were authorized to build wide body cars, quite a few coming out of Japan (they did interesting things utilizing M119 heads). There were AMG Beverly Hills (where the later RennTech founder Hartmut Feyhl worked in their AMG shop, two others from this AMG shop are still active around L.A., one in Sylmar, the other in Conejo Valley), I believe another was in Chicago, plus one on the East Coast, also one in the UK. I know Henrik quite well, and am acquainted with the process of building his widebody, as well as his later participation in the Wheeler-Dealer SEC widebody recreation build. To me, a widebody SEC, whether original AMG or a later re creation needs to have either the 5.4L or 6.0 AMG engine.
Yes, today's aerodynamics, packaging, safety and comfort requirements make many modern cars look similar. The eighties definitely brought about more unique cars!
Sorry for belated response, Greg. As Meike correctly pointed out, the "Hammer" was based on the W124 series, so the 'E-Class' sedan of today rather than the S-Class 560 SEC 'wide body'. As with the latter, the W124 was heavily reworked by AMG, A friend in the US is a Hammer aficionado and has one himself, one of the 29 limousines. Although you could have the coupé or even the wagon converted. Cool cars in any respct! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Yes, both are great designs! I was fortunate enough to have a B7 RS4 Cabriolet as my company car for a summer, when working for Audi. Pleasant memories indeed! :)
Some say there are 2 generations of these widebody SECs from AMG back then ,is there anyway to identify the difference?(Bumpers, side skirts….etc) thanks
Thank you forwriting and apologies for belated response. I was in contac with the Head of AMG Classic as we were offering this car, yet we never discussed this aspet. In the meantime @Teutone58 answered and it sounds plausible. Also, we need to remember that each car us unique, as you could opt for just power upgrades or those combined with optical modifications. In any case, these cars are truly special.
Generation 1 till 1985 / Generation 2 from 1986 : Gen 2 came with upgraded bumper design / upgraded lower side trim panels smooth instead of fluted / side skirt design specific only to widebody Gen1 was upgraded in Gen2 / Gen1 had WB Penta 16" wheels and Gen 2 offered 3 piece forged WB 17" wheels known as Aero 3 / Gen2 came with upgraded interior / The engine upgrade options available (if client wished) Gen 1 5.4L engines were a bored out 5litre block to 98.5mm bores / Gen 2 the 5.6L engine was bored out to 100mm bores and both offered either 16V heads or 32V heads with custom cams (there were many engine mods to custom choose from) AMG also offered manual conversion if you wanted it Getrag (265 if i recall) with AMG's own custom bellhousing. / Brake upgrade in Gen2 / Rear trunk spoiler upgrade to smaller lip versus the previous wing. That just covers a few as there were many more custom options to choose.
Thank you! Photo credit goes to my young videographer Boldizsar Zsigmond. Happy to hear that you like the ‘wide body’ pictures and you can view more of them - and of other stunning cars - on our website: www.petrolheadclassics.com/ Enjoy the browsing! However, please note that the copyright in all pictures and videos is owned by us, so please contact us before you share any of the content. Thank you for your understanding :)
Hi! Sorry for delayed response. The original AMG wide body modifications are as follows: rear quarter panel flares (l/r): steel; front wings (l/r): reinforced fiberglass. So a mix of both materials were used to create that unique look. Thanks again for asking and stay tuned!
Hi! The original AMG wide body modifications are as follows: rear quarter panel flares (l/r): steel; front wings (l/r): reinforced fiberglass. So a mix of both materials were used to create that unique look. Thanks again for asking and stay tuned!
Due to client confidentiality, we can't disclose selling prices. Yet, these cars are rare and don't come cheap. Especially not immaculate ones like this. Thanks for reaching out to us!
4:33 that’s $486k in early 2024 dollars. Using usa cpi calculator. Beat car, always drooled over the 4 door amg versions w dark petrol blue metalflake.
I agree with you, there are plenty of other great AMG models from that era, such as the W124 'Hammers' and of course the W126 limousine versons. Generally they tend to look better in darker colours. And yes, prices have gone crazy, but then again these are very rare cars. And coachbuilding is no longer done in the automotive industry. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Haha, not sure if you can bring a 560 SEC anymore, but they're setting up a classics department :) Times sure have changed since the eighties, when they were still independent from Mercedes.
If the wheel arches sat flush over the top of the tyre, then if would have looked perfect. There is no weird looking sports car when there is space between the top of the tyre and wheel arch
The German and Japanese coupés from the 80s and 90s were just sick. Mercedes, Nissan, Acura, BMW. The aesthetics still hold up.
I agree. The designs have aged well. While I admittedly preferred the purity of the 560 SEC lines when I was a kid, I now see and appreciate the work that AMG put into these cars.
I think the 560 6.0 has the perfect AMG sound along with the 90's SL60 etc.
Yes, it’s a really deep exhaust note, that shows what the engine is capable of.
What of the AMG Hammer?
Godamn it , The SEC model is so beautiful , i mean , look at this thing , that is no bad lines , perfect body work
The basic Bruno Sacco design was awesome to begin with and the wide body modifications blend in well, yet gives the SEC a purposeful look and communicates that this car means business!
This was the car that started the love for cars when I was a child saw the magazines this car was in and blew my mind
Great to hear from you Richard. Had a similar experience and it's always nice to be reconnected with the cars from our youth :)
Same. There will never be a Mercedes built like the 126...everything about it is top class
Still blowing minds....
I just got two identical ones, theyre hotwheels cars though lol, i love the villainous look of a big body black Mercedes, lately I’ve been daily driving my w221 s65, black on black of course
You're a very lucky man! Yes, the stealth look of the Widebody is emulated in today's Mercedes. Keep driving and enjoying your cool cars! Thanks for watching and commenting.
I am in love!!!! I want this car so bad !!!
Thank you. It is awesome indeed! Feel free to contact us anytime. We also have a lovely E60 AMG :)
What a mean machine! A supercar of the day. So exclusive!
Indeed, one of the rarest there is from that decade!
Even today so rare. I would take this over any new supercar
This car was designed in the late 70’s and it was 20 ahead from anyone else … superbly machine , I used to see those in Adelaide around Middle Aged men back in 2010 but I haven’t seen them anymore last time I saw a 560 AMG would be 3-5 years ago this middle aged man with young son driving one , those are one of my favourite cars ever !
Yes, it's an awesome machine. Nice memories from Adelaide. Since these cars are so rare, actually seeing one anywhere in the world is a real treat :)
That sounds beautiful!
It surely does! Awesome sound 🏁😎
The best 560sec wide-body amg!
They're seriously cool cars!
I've seen it with gullwing doors and convertible! Nice gem!
Thank you! You’ve probably seen an SGS (Styling Garage) built car. They did a widened version with Gullwing doors. There was some pretty crazy stuff in the Eighties 🙂
Im one of those collectors. Just bought myself an 300D as my first car and im currently restoring it. Next is the SEC but obviously not this version
Hi Marco, great to hear from you. Is yours a W123 or W124 300D? Both lovely cars. Good luck with the restoration, the first one is always special! The factory SEC are timeless classics and Bruno Sacco masterpieces!
Proud owner of 2 Non AMG 560sec 🎉
Congratulations! They’re awesome cars with so much style and class.
And now in 2022, only last week rm sothebys sold one of these for over $700,000... incredible car
Yes, RM achieved an amazing result. Yet, the three sales before that achieved $160,000 - $200,000. Why this spread? Well, the car now sold by RM was low-mileage and came with full documentation. Low mileage and great provenance will always increase value. The lower results were for car in the 80,000-100,000 km range and presumably without much documentation. You also need a bit of luck and at least two persons, who want the car at the auction. An American business partner was present at the RM record sale and was surprised at the result. Apparently a great car and many bidders. Happy for the seller. So, it's complex and many factors to take into consideration. Thank you for viewing and commenting!
My dream car 😱
It's a seriously cool machine! Good to hear that you're enjyoing our content :)
my dream car
Thank you!
Dude...bucket list done yeah 👍
Absolutely!
3:07 Perfection !
Thank you! The sound of that 6,0l AMG engine is priceless 🏁😎
The review was very simple to understand and that made it cool to watch.
My main concern is why wasn’t the 560 SEC AMG widebody sorted in manual?
Seeing that auto-box makes it Incomplete in my eyes.
Per the video, customers purchased the vehicle from Mercedes and then sent it to AMG for further modification. So we can assume they didn't want a manual.
Thank you for your feedback and happy to hear that you enjoyed the video!
As for the gearbox, you would need to address Mercedes on this one, since the 560 SEC came with automatic gearboxes only. Probably very few manuals could handle the torque of the engine. Someone mentions that AMG once converted a 560 SEC 'wide body' to manual for a UAE customer, using a 190 E 2.3-16 gearbox, but I haven't been able to confirm it.
@@jayjuggrnaut Correct. And as outlined below, these cars came with auto only. Whether the conversion of one car to manual was actually done, I haven't been able to verify.
@@petrolheadclassics ah I see.
Ironically, one would’ve expected a Manual gearbox due to it fluidity being able to better handle higher torque than a robotic auto-box, but Merc favored the latter.
I trust BMW, they’d have found a way to make a similar powerplant work flush with a manual stick.
@@1anre I agree with you and a manual gearbox would have suited the cars sporty credentials. I believ the reason is simply that there was no manual gearbox available to handle the torque of the 5.6l and 6.0l engines.
great video off this timeless classic beast, this is the kind of car you want to see overtake you on the autobahn.
Thank you so much! Yes, exactly, it was the perfect 'Autobahnstürmer' back then :) A truly special vehicle.
@@petrolheadclassics thanks for you response, will you also do videos about other older AMG's like the Hammer and the lesser known Babyhammer for example
@@MrConfrigo I'd be happy to, if we come across these cars. At the moment, this is the AMG-Mercedes we have on offer. An E60 is incoming. Do check my American friend's excellent video of a rare Hammer: ua-cam.com/video/Gwz60tPJDXs/v-deo.html
@@MrConfrigo BabyHammer?
@@1anre the amg version of the mercedes 190
Just an awesome video. New sub.
Chief
Thank you so much for your kind feedback! Much more to come. Have a great day.
Looks cooler than the Batmobile
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The original (pre Mercedes merger) W126 AMG SEC Widebody didn't have Aero I as on this car, but had ATS Germany made AMG Penta wheels, front 16 x 9J zero offset, rear 16 x 10 Et 12.7 minus. For his SEC widebody re creation, a buddy got a next to impossible to find set from Australia. AMG Beverly Hills and the other on the East coast may have assembled some widebody SEC's as well. These builds stopped when Daimler-Benz aka Mercedes bought AMG.
Thank you for your reply. If you read my comment below, you will see that I was in contact with the Head of AMG Classic, who also built these cars in his younger years with the company. We never discussed this in detail, but he did authenticate our car as genuine, AMG built.
Pre Mercedes - AMG merger, a number of larger Mercedes & AMG dealers were authorized to build wide body cars, quite a few coming out of Japan (they did interesting things utilizing M119 heads). There were AMG Beverly Hills (where the later RennTech founder Hartmut Feyhl worked in their AMG shop, two others from this AMG shop are still active around L.A., one in Sylmar, the other in Conejo Valley), I believe another was in Chicago, plus one on the East Coast, also one in the UK. I know Henrik quite well, and am acquainted with the process of building his widebody, as well as his later participation in the Wheeler-Dealer SEC widebody recreation build. To me, a widebody SEC, whether original AMG or a later re creation needs to have either the 5.4L or 6.0 AMG engine.
A man can dream!
It is!
How unique cars where then..!
Nowadays we only have cars that all look the same.
Yes, today's aerodynamics, packaging, safety and comfort requirements make many modern cars look similar. The eighties definitely brought about more unique cars!
Is this SEC a “ Hammer”? Or did the 30 something hammers only come from the US?
A "Hammer" is always a w124.
Sorry for belated response, Greg. As Meike correctly pointed out, the "Hammer" was based on the W124 series, so the 'E-Class' sedan of today rather than the S-Class 560 SEC 'wide body'. As with the latter, the W124 was heavily reworked by AMG, A friend in the US is a Hammer aficionado and has one himself, one of the 29 limousines. Although you could have the coupé or even the wagon converted. Cool cars in any respct! Thanks for watching and commenting!
This and the B7 RS4 are my 2 favourite looking cars
Yes, both are great designs! I was fortunate enough to have a B7 RS4 Cabriolet as my company car for a summer, when working for Audi. Pleasant memories indeed! :)
My holy grail
It’s truly awesome!
Some say there are 2 generations of these widebody SECs from AMG back then ,is there anyway to identify the difference?(Bumpers, side skirts….etc) thanks
Thank you forwriting and apologies for belated response. I was in contac with the Head of AMG Classic as we were offering this car, yet we never discussed this aspet. In the meantime @Teutone58 answered and it sounds plausible. Also, we need to remember that each car us unique, as you could opt for just power upgrades or those combined with optical modifications. In any case, these cars are truly special.
Generation 1 till 1985 / Generation 2 from 1986 : Gen 2 came with upgraded bumper design / upgraded lower side trim panels smooth instead of fluted / side skirt design specific only to widebody Gen1 was upgraded in Gen2 / Gen1 had WB Penta 16" wheels and Gen 2 offered 3 piece forged WB 17" wheels known as Aero 3 / Gen2 came with upgraded interior / The engine upgrade options available (if client wished) Gen 1 5.4L engines were a bored out 5litre block to 98.5mm bores / Gen 2 the 5.6L engine was bored out to 100mm bores and both offered either 16V heads or 32V heads with custom cams (there were many engine mods to custom choose from) AMG also offered manual conversion if you wanted it Getrag (265 if i recall) with AMG's own custom bellhousing. / Brake upgrade in Gen2 / Rear trunk spoiler upgrade to smaller lip versus the previous wing. That just covers a few as there were many more custom options to choose.
Are those photos available online? They are stunning
Thank you! Photo credit goes to my young videographer Boldizsar Zsigmond. Happy to hear that you like the ‘wide body’ pictures and you can view more of them - and of other stunning cars - on our website:
www.petrolheadclassics.com/
Enjoy the browsing! However, please note that the copyright in all pictures and videos is owned by us, so please contact us before you share any of the content. Thank you for your understanding :)
Does anyone know if the widebody quarter panels are steel or fiberglass?
Hi! Sorry for delayed response. The original AMG wide body modifications are as follows: rear quarter panel flares (l/r): steel; front wings (l/r): reinforced fiberglass. So a mix of both materials were used to create that unique look. Thanks again for asking and stay tuned!
@@petrolheadclassics thank you for the response. Will do!
The wide body kit was made out of metal?
Hi! The original AMG wide body modifications are as follows: rear quarter panel flares (l/r): steel; front wings (l/r): reinforced fiberglass. So a mix of both materials were used to create that unique look. Thanks again for asking and stay tuned!
Are these engines carbureted?
No, they have a Bosch fuel injection system. The 'E' in SEC actually stands for 'Einspritzung', which is the German word for fuel injection.
Does it come with a kilo in the glovebox?
Haha, no it doesn't. Although it may be a good sales argument for some.
Does anyone know what seats are in it? Thank you in advance!
The seats are electrically operated Recaro, installed by AMG during the conversion
@@petrolheadclassics recaro classic c leather seats.
It is really beautiful and rare, how much is it!!?
Thank you. I am happy to answer any questions about the car via mail. Address in the 'about' section. I look forward to hearing from you!
www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/oldtimer/mercedes-c126-560-sec-amg-widebody-auktion/ if its this one it went for 250k dollars
@@RD19902010 That is another car, sold first in London in 2019 and then again in the US this year.
What's the price for such a beauty
Due to client confidentiality, we can't disclose selling prices. Yet, these cars are rare and don't come cheap. Especially not immaculate ones like this. Thanks for reaching out to us!
Nice
Thank you!
4:33 that’s $486k in early 2024 dollars. Using usa cpi calculator. Beat car, always drooled over the 4 door amg versions w dark petrol blue metalflake.
I agree with you, there are plenty of other great AMG models from that era, such as the W124 'Hammers' and of course the W126 limousine versons. Generally they tend to look better in darker colours. And yes, prices have gone crazy, but then again these are very rare cars. And coachbuilding is no longer done in the automotive industry. Thanks for watching and commenting!
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🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁😎
Does Amg Still Pimp For us if we go there
Haha, not sure if you can bring a 560 SEC anymore, but they're setting up a classics department :) Times sure have changed since the eighties, when they were still independent from Mercedes.
3:42 Wrong floormats for that era. Otherwise, the car is amazing.
Thank you for your feedback! Yes, the owner uses these more modern floormats to protect the originals.
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Thank you! It's a lovely car indeed.
Why dont u drive it
We're saving that for our next video ;) Thanks for watching!
If the wheel arches sat flush over the top of the tyre, then if would have looked perfect. There is no weird looking sports car when there is space between the top of the tyre and wheel arch
Well, this is the way AMG did them. Compared to the C126 560 SEC these cars were based upon, they still sit lower.
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Thank you.
Mate you didn't even start the engine! What a waste of time
I start the engine at 3:10.
"Japanese vehicle" The fuck?
The car has a Japanese vehicle document and was imported to the EU from there. I don't understand your comment?
is it still for sale?
Unfortunately not.