@@abnushagnasty805 Only way this is going to change is by people not supporting this woke narrative crud. At least we can rewatch the old favs right?!?
At first I thought these mcu shows would provide stories for characters who didn’t get much attention in the movies, but now I realize that all they are is advertisements for tokenized variants of these characters that will replace them. I at least gave the other shows a chance, but I’m DONE now. Didn’t even watch the first episode of Hawkeye. Not interested at all.
I agree I watched about 30 minutes of the Hawkeye then I got the picture of what they're trying to do replace Hawkeye with this other character I stopped watching it immediately started getting boring 😴.
The screeching cat sound effects over all the black widows fighting each other was hilarious and purrfect. Maybe the movie would be more watchable if all the dialogue was replaced by appropriate cat noises?
The great overuse of BLAND, CHILDISH, and UNINSPIRED humour has officially started to deeply effect the MCU. Not just because the BLAND humour is ruining serious moments, but the writers themselves don't care about or take the product seriously.
@Knox2Don just cause you say, not really, and do better, doesn't change the fact that you are a fan of the blandish, childish uninspired humourist MCU of all. Spder-man. which is also the most successful MCU character also ironic
...Because he's not trying to Kill Yelena and Echo but no I guess you're fake fans won't know that by not watching the series. Also Kate Bishop is Hawkeye in the comics Cope.
@@Spidervenom23 Nope and Sam Wilson, WOULD have been Cap if he hadn't given the shield away in the first place. I kind of got the point of the whole arc, but the whole show was pointless because he already HAD earned it. I was expecting him to take up the role from the word go, and he could have still gone through the whole backstory. I guess then they couldn't have introduced the US Agent, then again it could have been someone impersonating the original cap who could have stolen the shield and lead to a big showdown and Wilson proving he is the real Captain America and unmasking the US Agent. Something like that anyway. Let's not even go there with the flag smashers, could not get my head around anything about them, they didn't make any sense at all.
"Who runs like a duck" LMAO. The value of run style is so underrated. No matter how much they build up a MC, if they run funny, all that charisma is out the window, for me at least.
I tuned in to see a Clint Barton adventure featuring Kate Bishop, not the other way around. Not to mention, they fumbled the Ronin arc and ruined Kingpin in one episode. A total mess.
@@x_master_xtop410 lol as someone who watched Arrow, I couldn't disagree more. These are so much better and on another tier of quality. The CW shows are terrible. Legends? Batwoman? Flash? Etc...come on.
@@Bigpoppapump313 exactly, they skimmed over his Ronin face and gave us Disney Christmas show with him in it. Why not just do Season 1 him going through his Ronin phase, then season 2 you can introduce Bishop
Just recently found out (from listening to Script Doctor on a Midnight's Edge panel) that lots of writers in hollywood can have a great degree of writing experience with doing re-writes or other treatments on studio scripts without recieving a credit that will reach an IMDB profile. They may be well known and considered reliable within the industry but not have those exterior facing credits. So, a lack of Imdb profile is slightly less of a red flag than it might seem (at least as far as writing/dialogue is concerned) - though we've seen VERY mixed results from such unknowns. I think the greater point that can still be argued is that the lack of a viewable credit may suggest these people have never had substantial responsibility for an overall project (which would presumably result in such credits).
@@mercharris5266 OK. No. *Edit* Oh and at risk of offending your tender sensibilities, when I said your contribution was pointless that didn't mean the point you were attempting to make was unclear, so really, you should've left the entirety of your latest response unspoken if we're so desperately tied to brevity.
Hawkeye series was such a missed opportunity for us to see what clint went thru when the blip turned him into ronin…maybe in flashback scenes while dealing with a better villian in present day…..with the exception of wandavision how each disney plus series pulled a bait and switch smh 🤦🏻♂️
There was no bait and switch. The only reason you're saying that is because channels like Gary Ann's and such convince you there was some bait and switch. When you go into these things with open eyes, it's pretty obvious to most that there was no "bait and switch".
It really wasn't though. It was obvious they are gonna make kate the new hawkeye. I've never read the comics and that was clear as day to me. Plus this wasn't wasn't even bad. Kate has flaws but slowly grows to be a better person and not blindsided to what she does.
@@mustang6599 The name of the show is Hawkeye. But the story is about Kate Bishop? Tell me that's not a bait and switch. Why not name the series Kate Bishop? They named the show Hawkeye to make us think the show is more about Hawkeye. But it was more about Kate.
So glad I just watched this rather than the actual show. I seriously think seeing the destruction of Kingpin and Hawkeye like that would have led to a broken tv.
@Eye of Horus this is a weird comment. The Kingpin character is following the comic books. Not sure how that equates to "destroyed" because he'll 100% be back, which makes Dragonage2ftw's comment accurate. And haters spent the entire season bitching about how Hawkeye gonna die and be replaced by Kate Bishop...well... that didn't happen either.
@@Dragonage2ftw I think the proper term was "de-constructed," rather than "destroyed." Systematic deconstruction of characters, woke messaging, and so forth, are difficult for us normies to properly articulate. It doesn't mean we're wrong. We'll never win any debates on the subject, as we are not acquainted with the jargon of critique. But we know shite when we see it and we kbow when we're being messaged by woke nincompoops and party-poopers of every description.
@Eye of Horus We don't have a problem with subtlety and nuance. Literally all the complaints are so picky and lack nuance. This show was good and way better than what the CW could ever produce. Was it perfect? No. But it's not garbage.
@@Walker-ow7vj that's what i keep telling myself. But there's no way D+ will make anything adult or dark or complex... the trailer is so good but it'll be another "gotcha". i hope i'm wrong though.
Kate Bishop was so annoying, like sure fangirling is normal, but this is life and death. A fucking black Widow, trained killers were there, so was the mob, and a dangerous assasin (Ronin). WHY ARE YOU CRACKING SO UNFUNNY JOKES, it makes no since to be so laid back like this.
I almost resent Spiderman's success because I really think it's time for the MCU to wrap up. They're clearly out of ideas, their new characters are not going over with the fans and the whole thing is coming off as a hollow imitation of what is once was. Throw on a good helping of denigrating both characters and fans, and I just don't want to hear from this franchise anymore. While Spiderman shows Disney and Marvel what they can achieve if they cater to the masses rather than lecture us - it also earned a phat stack (some of which Marvel will get) which helps clean their clock of the awful crap they've been putting out since Endgame and further fund shite like this in the future. The film was called Endgame - the clue is in the title - they should've just had the guts to end it, rather than let it zombie on like this.
If Tobey and Andrew hadn't been there would you still be saying the same? Because I still wonder if people only praise the movie because of it and not the movie itself, which pretty much shows the double standards of many of you.
When all these shows came out, I was. Thinking when am i gonna find the time to watch all these. It’s comforting to know I’m not really missing anything.
@@noahhannon2305 in my opinion, infinity war was the perfect ending, i dont think going back in time and fixing your mistakes is a good ending its a terrible lesson, sometimes you give it everything you got and still lose
@@trelavon724 Bro, half the people on Earth vanished. You really think they shouldn't have went back in time to save billions of people? The lesson was to teach people to never give up and to make sacrifices for the people you care about.
@@RoyHoy first of all, i don’t think they should have went back in time and STEAL PEOPLE FROM THEIR TIMELINE !!! the people who came back to life came back to life the same way the disappeared, they came back to a different reality. if the infinity stone controls all reality , why can’t you make reality more coherent? also, i believe they should have won against thanos, the hulk would have redeemed himself, thor literally killed him if it wasn’t for the infinity stones, vision should have never been nerfed , they could have easily takin care of thanos if they had just used their brains
I was really let down with black widow and Hawkeye, it shows how little regard for the characters the guys in charge (Feige of all people) have, both characters had a lot of potential to make great spy/action movies and they blew it. And also I really liked Palicki as mocking bird 😪.
@@Dragonage2ftw i used to think so, however when he was given more power (no oversight) he disregarded the tv side and was an ah about it he could easily play ball since the tv side was very willing, then when given the keys for D+ he became more ah. He did loose sight and now is driven by power and kissing the right buts to keep climbing the corporate ladder the MCU and everything in it is secretary. Thus the lately results.
@@Dragonage2ftw Based on? Feige did great work with the setup of the MCU, I'll grant you that, but after Avengers Infinity War the MCU has been a disaster. The same Feige who built up the Avengers characters so meticulously, now tears them down without even a second thought, only to replace them with totally unbelievable female versions. What happened to this guy? Did he sell his balls to the woke-movement? Or was this always part of his "master-plan" with the MCU? I have a hard time believing the latter, so it seems like it's the first, which makes it all the more incredible. You spent 11 years building up the MCU with decent character development and storytelling and then revert to simple bait-and-switch tactics combined with horrible storytelling just to push an agenda? That's sad.
Yeah disney will Ruin daredevil as they ruined kingpin
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I’m at the stage with the M-She-U where I’m more interested in Gary’s reviews than the actual show. At least he gets to the point and doesn’t chuck in meaningless filler and is consistently entertaining and informative.
@@flowinsounds WandaVision is hands down the best show so far. If you cut out all the crappt SHIELD scenes, you have a solid show with a good character arc and interesting plot. None of the other shows get close to that
@Sonic Hedgehog Yeah ok sums it up, as an Englishman the first few episodes mining old US tv shows for waaaaaay too long was coma inducing. Then the "mwahahaha" cartoon badguy was beyond cringe. Overall had great elements but was too confused in mixing plotlines to have any coherence in storytelling
Almost every single one of these new shows are bait and switch handing off the "mantel" to a character no one is going to care about kind of show. The cherry on top is for most of them they get to belittle and destroy the character they are replacing. I would rather see these new characters introduced on their own...leave the OG characters out of it because by the second season that's what is going to happen anyway.
they don't respect legacy or how to properly hand it down. These boss babes earn nothing, they just steal every thing from the men. Not very stoic or worthy of being cared about at all in the end. Bad all around writing, even the Bayformers films had more logic then this.
Wasn’t that bad of a show compared to the shit shows I’ve seen from Disney. It had its moments. I had very low hopes, came out pleasantly surprised. Hated the end.
Every Marvel movie has been reduced to, “We’re going to have the popular male characters mentor the female characters until episode 2 when we show you how much more awesome and better at everything the female versions of these characters are”
So it's not this show? She keeps screwing up to the very end and the only reason she survives kingpin is because she used clint's arrows and even then she barely survived and she still acts inexperienced
@Rune Kristensen The show is more abut kate bishop not Hawkeye atleast they should've named it Kate bishop and not Hawkeye and saved a lot of people time
Marvel acts like they hate all of their characters at this point except for Spiderman (technically a Sony property). It's sad watching Hawkeye and every other avenger become a sad joke only to be replaced by a small girl. The deaf girl with the fake leg was the icing on the cake. If are was transgender and in a wheelchair then she would be the most powerful being in the marvel universe! At this point I'm just waiting for the Batman to come out. At least they DC likes him and are trying.
There wasn’t a villain in this series that couldn’t have (just as easily) been taken down by the NYPD alone. So, apparently, the MCU message was that LE is lazy. This man held a fully loaded Infinity Gauntlet...and this is the series he got?
I think that's kind of supposed to be the point of the show. Clint doesn't have any powers, but he has the knowledge and skills necessary to succeed against the enemies they show in the series. The problem is that they rarely ever showed him using said knowledge and skills...
I rewatched all the Netflix shows recently. It's weird to me how Daredevil S3 (and Punisher) got away with conservative undertones... like Karen defending the right to self defense... or Foggy defending the police union in their stance against the Feds... or even Matt's dedication to thr law when the politicians are corrupt and aren't enforcing it There's no way that show would ever get made today
So glad I’m not the only one who thought this show was utter garbage. Not even because of the M-She-U bait and switch, but because the script, pacing, and character development was all major doodoo
That's kind of the worst part for me. The M-She-U and D-She-EU can work if you put in the work, lay the foundation, and do it with proper care and respect to the source materials while also not tearing down the established characters. The problem is that they skip all of the setup stages, tear down the established characters, shove the new characters down our throats, and expect us to care. The MCU succeeded, because it started with the solo movies, which made us care about the characters. There was over 10 years between Ironman and Endgame, meaning over 10 years of getting attached to and caring about these characters, including several years of mostly solo movies before the first Avengers movie. How the hell can the MCU write the damn book on how to succeed at superhero and comic book movies only to ignore the first half in the future movies and now TV series and be surprised when the future movies and TV series flop? How many times do they have to lose hundreds of millions of dollars before they learn their lesson?
The weird thing about this show is that it's the reverse. They somehow won me over on Kate Bishop. She was likeable by the end. But ofc, the one time they sell me on the new blood replacing the old school, they write a terrible story
I'm never going to be drunk or insane enough to watch this show, so I appreciate you doing it for us. And, in my opinion, both Hawkeye and Jeremy Renner deserve better. 😐
You could even say Kate, the Kingpin, Echo and Yelena deserve better. Nothing was wrong with the characters or the people who played them. Heck, they could have been great. It was all about how they were written.
The weird thing about this show is that Renner's Hawkeye and Kate Bishop were actually treated with respect. I liked Kate. She had a real character arc and didn't undermine Clint at all. The problem is that almost everything else was terrible.
There is only one thing I appreciate Hawkeye for. For introducing me to Vincent D'Onofrio's Kingpin. That prompted me to start watching Daredevil, one of the *best* series I've ever seen. And I'm not just talking Marvel shows. It's dark, serious, violent and completely amazing. There's everything - brutal violence and torture, legal drama and even a prison sequence. And if there's any whiff of a Woke agenda, I certainly haven't detected it. With Elektra, the show has zero issues with presenting her exactly as a deceptive, manipulative and murderous sociopath. And she still manages to be a truly strong female character. The other great female lead, Karen Page, is anything but a "Karen" - she is smart and beautiful but also thoroughly feminine and doesn't try to constantly emasculate her male friends, as seems to be the custom now. And the characters portrayed by People of Colour, like Claire (the Nurse), Sgt Brett Mahoney and the reporter Ben Urich are all perfectly cast. They just do their jobs with passion. No race-baiting or SJW posturing at all. Amazing show.
Amen, I might have to go watch the whole thing a third time. It's definitely the best out there. I would recommend Luke cage as a decent show, and Jessica Jones is good too once it gets going (season one is anyway) Iron first starts well but goes downhill, and all these together gives you the defenders, which could have been done much better than it was.
@@craigscraigwastaken6776 Definitely not the greatest ever made , but it's a decent comic show . I'd say shows like Doom Patrol , and Legion definitely give Daredevil a run for it's money. It's probably the best superhero show that covers vigilantism and ponders those deeper questions of what the hero's go through , but it's definitely not the most unique, and it uses a lot of those tropes that were created in Batman.
the most useless tv show ever , hawkeye was a spectator in the show. 20 kgs teenage girls were the main actors beating up 90 kgs MMA trained men . pure waste of my time woke nonsense
I felt that finale fight with Kingpin was off as well and for obvious reasons, but I failed to realize just how much. See, I hadn't seen the Daredevil shows until after watching the Hawkeye series. I just witnessed Kingpin seemingly effortlessly decapitate a man with the door of an SUV. Hawkeye was a joke!
You see I watched Daredevil when it first came out and im telling you... when he decapitated that guy's head thats when i knew the show would be different! Hawkeye turned him into a cartoon character
Kingpin is clearly taking it easy with Kate, but even so being thrown across a room several times would have shattered her skeleton, never mind the concussions.
I remember the kingpin scene as one of the few moments of me shouting and cursing at my TV for the pure stupidity. The series peeked with Clint suffering through "Rogers - the Musical "
Like imagine the Punisher on DISNEY+??? I just can't. Moon Knight was bad They ruined Kingpin Their fight scenes so far don't even have real weight behind them like the Netflix shows did (minus Iron Fist 😂) I can see them watering down Daredevil which is dumb but i can't see them even attempting to do the Punisher. His whole character is about killing bad people, most often brutally
CJ I feel your pain I'm terrified as well but let us take solace in the fact that I have it on very good authority from a credible source that is far as the punisher and Daredevil go the directors producers and Main writers for both shows are actually still going to be a part of the team so the fact that they're bringing back a lot of the cash writers and producers Maple dwell maybe Kevin will step back and let the teams that made the shows great keep the shows great so we don't have to sit back and watch Daredevil get a sex change and and punisher come out as non-binary bi-curious I'm just sick of all the b******* so I'm hoping that all that comes to fruition and we don't have to put up with any more of the lgbtq transpocalypse work agenda cuz I can't take anymore it's too much these are already two shows with a great cast great writers that I've already had successful season so let them recreate that magic because you obviously are not the people to do it you're trying to do other s*** you know so why don't you take a break from trying to turn my son into a ferry where's lingerie and make a good comic book adaptation for once
Would have preferred a Hawkeye story myself but using him to tell someone else's story is typical of Disney's bubble mentality. They really believe if you feed them soy they will like it, even if it's eventually. Having said that I thought Widow wasn't one of Marvel's worst movies and the ending with sister widow on the hunt for Clint was what I was looking forward to in the Hawkeye series. Nat's death still carries a lot of feels for me and that could have had a proper resolution with the series... but not to be. Instead we have (another) coming of age superhero story with too many extra characters to give any true development.
@Rune Kristensen Hawkeye been around since the 60's not bishop most comic book shit the past decade has been shit so in fact dont get the real Hawkeye story
@Rune Kristensen just said most comic shit the past decade has been shit never said anything on how long she has been around,2005 that is by the way,the real hawkeye the one that everyone wants to see is from the 60's see above learn to read doopdick!
Truth is people likes soy. MCU movies haven't stopped or reducted the amount of money they get from tickets and merchandising. It's not like people enjoys bad tv shows i think people just see this as a mid-filler till the big movies come. Besides we've had a couple good shows like what if and Loki
On Netflix Kingpin decapitates a guy by repeatedly smashing his head in a car door. On D+ he gets beaten like Elmer Fudd whilst wearing a hawaiian shirt...
I started off liking certain elements of the show, including Kate, but the comedy ultimately killed my enjoyment. Forget dramatic tension -- who needs *that* in a superhero show? Almost every single scene has to be trivialized by a goofy joke, even in the climatic episode, and I'm sick of it. Give me Marvel Netflix any day of the week.
Did you watch the show? There were multiple scenes in which there no jokes, at all. One scene where Kate had a discussion with her mom, and same with Clint and Yelena. Theres a few more than that.
I agree with almost all of this. But I also noticed the kid being a different race than her parents in the black widow episode; but just figured she was adopted because black widows cannot have kids.
If they had set out to make a good Hawkeye show, featuring Hawkeye and his adventures, this had good potential to succeed. The actors playing Hawkeye & Kate Bishop look the parts, and interesting. If only they had hired qualified, good, writers. Too bad about the rest.
@@sorbabaric1 Because actors get old. So you either have to pass the torch, reboot with a new actor, or find an in-story reason to explain the appearance change. They don't have any original ideas anymore. So they have to just constantly do sequels, prequels, reboots, etc.
@@LucianDevine Yes, but surely this actor has a good 3 to 5 more years in him in this role, but since the writers and producers can’t commit to the idea of a male lead protagonist, even for 1 season, especially if it’s a mature man, it doesn’t work well. Even with a female co-lead or up and coming side kick, they start the silly billy trivializing and deconstruction of the male character (s). It’s a pattern now.
@@sorbabaric1 Yup, sad but true. 1 Season of Hawkeye being a badass is all we needed. Then we could maybe do a time skip or have him losing his hearing start to hinder what he can do, leading to him taking Kate under his wing, and then moving on with passing the torch, but they couldn't even give us that...
I love your reviews, perfectly spot on. Hawkeye was portrayed as a pathetic weakling. How was this Hawkeye able to take on the chitauri, ultron and Thanos. Horribly ridiculous
@@baffledking9902 ...cause he's almost 50 years old and also the only person who "Kick His ass" was Yelena and he wasn't trying to fight her in the scene.
Ok but he literally wasn’t??? Did you guys watch the same movie I did? He kicked tons of people’s butts! Unless you are talking about him being sad about not seeing his kids on Christmas or having aged from war and stuff. Remember he is 5 years older after the snap because he didn’t blip and he doesn’t have super powers. He is an old man but he still kicked some butt too. I’m gonna be honest I didn’t care for a Hawkeye solo show (which is what I thought this would be) the due seems leagues more interesting to me. And despite what people keep saying I really don’t think they tried to have Kate bishop up show Hawkeye. They seemed like partners, and honestly even though Hawkeye aged even at the end he was clearly more experienced than Kate. I was surprised at how good this show was considering nothing even interested me about a Hawkeye show at all. Things change and rather than recasting Clint Barton I personally would rather have a different character anyways.
@@NatCatKitty he was so much more experienced than her that he needed her to save his life twice. This show was written to make Clint look weak, so they can replace him ASAP.
I did not realize we had so many 100 lb women who could beat the crap out of Hawkeye, Thor, or Loki. I hate to see what is going to happen to the Hulk when She-Hulk is released.
The tragedy is that there are *so* many ways to write strong, engaging, bad-ass female characters, but all of these hack writers choose none of them. Much easier to tear down established heroes and villains, which requires no talent at all. Burn in hell, Disney. Also, for anyone who never watched it, go watch the Daredevil series. I loved the original comics, and they really did it justice (no pun intended, but I'll keep it lol.)
Look at Yellowstone. Beth may be the baddest character, not even talking just female here, of all time. They wrote her so well. Strong both mentally and physically but with plenty of flaws unlike mcu female characters where they seem to have none and everything handed to them. There are undertones of "the message" on that show but it's completely distant in comparison to the dedication to good writing by show writer Jamie Sheridan. Disney is just either lazy or they really do just care more about shoving identity politics into our eyeballs at every single turn that they can.
The supposed bad ass momma bear who needs no man and is some big boss ends up being in that position of power because of a dead dude who earned all that power passed away, and she ended up taking it all for her own including said debt? And with that power came owing a bad guy instead of letting bad guy take from what the dead dude created to pay off said debt, carrying on the responsibility of that debt because the bad guy was okay with that arrangement? It really makes no sense; it just shows that women gain power by taking power that is not their own when convenient lol! Regardless, this lady playing powerful lady boss only is powerful because she took from a guy when he died, she didn't create that power for her own, she received that power because of a familial bond I guess, she didn't earn it for herself at all she is powerful because she stole that power from a guy who died, and the writers don't see this as further questions regarding female empowerment lol!! As it stands in reality, no woman has created more wealth than the lady who divorced Bezos, she divorced and received more money than any powerful woman in this world, this MCU garbage I guess validates this way into positions of power too. What does this tell young women really lol!
My favourite part was the fireman stealing from the scene of a fire and instead of this having any consequences or being an issue at all, Hawkeye has to make a deal with him to get his own property back. And then the thief becomes part of the super friends group.
@@jimmy5170 you've missed the point. All of those characters face consequences for stealing. No one mentions to the fireman that maybe he shouldn't have stolen and he doesn't seem to think he did anything wrong either.
Just started rewatching Daredevil today for fun.... and it made me hurt so bad inside when I remembered how good of a Kingpin we already had. And then D+ goes ahead and makes him the incompetent version. But I would never pay for D+. Torrent is king.
Wait, Clint's wife is the Mockingbird? Have they forgotten their own Agents of SHIELD series and their own Mockingbird played by fabulous Adrianne Palicki? Seriously? I know they don't care about continuity in the MCU but this just shows those "writers" haven't even looked up the Wikipedia to check if someone's already played the character in that universe.
This world is so shit sometimes. Why can't we have nice things? Like a Hawkeye show that focuses on Hawkeye? I am feeling overwhelming sadness and anger about this show. Absolute garbage.
Oh please, you’re acting like they killed off Clint in the first episode in his first scene. Kate bishop is Hawkeye in the comics as well as Clint. The title of the show refers to them both, plus the trailers for this show made it clear that it would focus on both Clint *and* Kate
@@GustEdgeOfficial they basically did kill him. Did you watch the show? They could've done so much more. They could've created a much better show. But no. We must kill off every single male character to make room for strong female characters. Get real.
There hasn't been any point in even pirating any non-Sony (ie, Disney) MCU since Captain Marvel. Not worth 10 seconds of anyone's time who has an IQ in triple digits.
Kevin Smith made a movie about convenient store deviants, Losers that hang out at the mall, and bi sexual women who's not sure if she wants to spend her life taking hot dogs or eating tacos. French Toast Kevin Smith!
Heres my idea for a Hawkeye series: As ronin, Clint messes with kingpin's operations and kills his men. 25% different kingpin from the Daredevil series has a protege or right hand man who gets killed by ronin in one of his rampages. Kingpin traces ronin, who is identified as Kate bishop when she goes through that convoluted procedure to get the suit. Clint and Kate meet up in a similar manner but instead of the tracksuit mafia or whatever, there are actual, competent henchmen. Clint also gets more time with his family, who he must regretfully leave on Christmas Eve to go save Kate's ass. Upon learning that Hawkeye is covering for Kate's ronin, kingpin kidnaps Hawkeyes family, thinking that Hawkeye is nothing without the avengers. When Clint learns about this, him and Kate team up to fight through the ranks of kingpins men to rescue the family and save the day, showing character development by showing us that he can take on a threat without the avengers using his brains, brawn and a capacity for teamwork It may make the show a bit more divorced from the grand scheme of the MCU, but it puts Hawkeye front and center featuring him doing actual detective like work to get to the conclusion. It's a simple and probably trite premise, but it is impossible to mess up
The villains sucked. Echo sucked, her little buddy sucked. The tracksuit gang sucked. Kingpin sucked. The evil mother was ok I guess? And the Black Widow sister side-plot was pretty underwhelming.
@@ShadowSonic2 If you want to generalize, sure. In this case, watch the video again and find out what I'm referring to. Oh, you may also want to look into a sense of humor. They're inexpensive and low maintenance. Oh, just in case, I've got some gold watches. Good quality iron pyrite. They don't make 'em like this anywhere.
Soon as hawkeye mentioned "the big guy" I was like FUCK... they gonna ruin him. I literally told my friend I was watching the show with if anything short of Kingpin having EVERYBODY brutally murdered happens im gonna be disappointed. Edit: imagine they made this show with the vibes of daredevil. of Clint going and cleaning up the mess he left as Ronin, by himself. They should have made it with the same brutality of daredevil. (they actually could have included daredevil and kingpin.) it would have been so fucking cool. They could have even tried to show why Wilson fisk is no longer in prison (maybe his wife was on a plane when the snap happened and the pilots dissapeared and she died in the crash removing the leverage daredevil had to keep Fisk in prison. Since they want to bring in daredevil to the mcu and all. The scene in endgame with barton and the sword is so badass. that is what I wanted.
Are you familiar with the concept of “people who haven’t seen Daredvil and don’t have Netflix that need to be introduced to Kingpin”? They didn’t ruin him, he’s not dead, he goes through this in the comics and lives.
The way all the blame was put on Kate's father with one throw away line with her mother telling Kate it was all his fault because he took money from King Pin just seemed like a way push they blame off the mom on to her dead father.
O my God....you hardcore anti Sjws and Sjws themselves complain about everything like spoilt little children. The lack of independent thought among these two groupies is astounding
@@CoolOkay_ he was shot in the Head in the Hawkeye series and the camera goes away so... I guess he was dead of screen even such a waste of a fucking awesome vilain
Spot on about how "understanding" Laura Barton is! As a fellow happily married husband who knows better than to be hanging out alone with a "young hottie", those scenes were so cringey!
Hawkeye was fine. I'm as a conservative as you can get and you guys make me believe that toxic masculinity (a term I hate) is a real thing. Are you truly that threatened by all this? Grow up.
Exactly, like I thought that guys like him (who I, as someone who is also right leaning, really hate to call misogynistic, but let’s be real they totally are) would at least be satisfied with all the attractive young women in tight outfits on screen in this show, but I guess when it comes to his precious little superhero franchise (which was previously almost a sausage fest), having a woman with an important main role, some *actual* agency, as well as making her someone who isn’t a femme fatale or a damsel in distress who constantly needs saving, that would all ruin his little fantasy wouldn’t it? I loved the MCU ever since 2008 and guys like him who claimed to be fans of it back in the day and just rag on it now for hate clicks almost make me embarrassed to say I’m still a fan, lest I get associated with grifter chuds like him.
If you wanna see Jeremy Renner being badass go watch mayor of Kingstown. And after what they did to kingpin, I don't understand how people are still hyped for matt Murdock on the MSheU......
the power levels of the characters in this show is weird. clint, who can go toe to toe with black panther, is struggling with yelena and echo. assuming that yelena is that good, why is she struggling with an amateur like kate?
I thought it was pretty clear that Clint didn't want to hurt his dead best friend's little sister, so he didn't fight her all out. Yelena also wasn't trying to kill Kate. She even says that if she wanted Kate dead, she'd have killed her the second she opened the door.
not at any point during the show was clint, black widow, or kingpin trying to kill anyone dude. that's all. this has nothing to do with 2016 "SJW" shit, maybe re watch the show and read between the lines before going off. kingpin literally only "lost" because he never tried to kill anyone or even hit them hard. he was paying NO ATTENTION to kate that's the only reason he lost. not no "woman better" bs.
I never did understand why marvel or dc didnt just put their best stories on screen and let them sell themselves. Whoever was involved in the daredevil tv show certainly needs to comeback.
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This just makes me miss the Punisher and Daredevil shows even more.
And Jessica Jones season 1
they are gonna re-hatch and butcher them.. Don't get your hopes up.
My hopes never were up. It’s just sad that good shows like that don’t exist anymore.
@@abnushagnasty805 Only way this is going to change is by people not supporting this woke narrative crud. At least we can rewatch the old favs right?!?
@@bduggins2483 purpleman was scarrier than Thanos.
At first I thought these mcu shows would provide stories for characters who didn’t get much attention in the movies, but now I realize that all they are is advertisements for tokenized variants of these characters that will replace them. I at least gave the other shows a chance, but I’m DONE now. Didn’t even watch the first episode of Hawkeye. Not interested at all.
I tried. I lasted 25mins.
The last Episode is worth watching it was so Bad that I had a good laugh can't take the mcu serious anymore
only mcu shows worth watching was Daredevil and Punisher. the rest you can easily pass on and not feel bad about skipping
I agree I watched about 30 minutes of the Hawkeye then I got the picture of what they're trying to do replace Hawkeye with this other character I stopped watching it immediately started getting boring 😴.
Talk with your wallets boys and Drink up me Hearties, Yo-Ho!🏴☠️
The screeching cat sound effects over all the black widows fighting each other was hilarious and purrfect. Maybe the movie would be more watchable if all the dialogue was replaced by appropriate cat noises?
My favorite part 😆👍
And the clown SFX, which are 10x more powerful than even cowbell.
I thought the cat fight sounds were perfect as well, it had me laughing, along with all the "bonk" sound effects. 😂
@@Furiafelina iiiiii
Lol yes
I’m a woman and ffs these women writers are making us all look like 15-yo fanficers. H8
The last 30 minutes of the series was brutal. There was no climax...it’s not how you start it’s how you finish
I just had a good laugh
Absolutely was ready to throw a shoe through my TV watching that ending. If that is how they leave it, it’ll be an absolute friggin travesty
Except that the end doesn't matter if the beginning and middle were so boring and stupid that nobody is around to watch it.
It isn't the fall that matters...it's how you land. Basically, this show fell flat on its face instead of with Wade's 'superhero landing!'
There were too many things going on and most of them didn't get the time they needed.
The great overuse of BLAND, CHILDISH, and UNINSPIRED humour has officially started to deeply effect the MCU.
Not just because the BLAND humour is ruining serious moments, but the writers themselves don't care about or take the product seriously.
True. The comic...-the masterpiece character study of Hawkeye took itself seriously enough. But had moments of levity and comedy.
ironic your profile is of marvel's spider man the character that uses the blandest childish humor of any MCU film.
@Knox2Don I guess you missed the irony
@Knox2Don just cause you say, not really, and do better, doesn't change the fact that you are a fan of the blandish, childish uninspired humourist MCU of all. Spder-man. which is also the most successful MCU character also ironic
@Knox2Don all I'm saying is you loved it enough to have it as a profile pic. That's ironic.
“He was able to cut through the Yakuza, the cartel, and MS13 like butter but we did find his weakness…short women.”
That shit had me dead lmao…
short women do be fine ngl
...Because he's not trying to Kill Yelena and Echo but no I guess you're fake fans won't know that by not watching the series. Also Kate Bishop is Hawkeye in the comics Cope.
@@Spidervenom23 Woke Comics
@@glenmcl ...Kate Bishop is Hawkeye just like Sam Wilson is Captain America Cope.
@@Spidervenom23 Nope and Sam Wilson, WOULD have been Cap if he hadn't given the shield away in the first place. I kind of got the point of the whole arc, but the whole show was pointless because he already HAD earned it. I was expecting him to take up the role from the word go, and he could have still gone through the whole backstory. I guess then they couldn't have introduced the US Agent, then again it could have been someone impersonating the original cap who could have stolen the shield and lead to a big showdown and Wilson proving he is the real Captain America and unmasking the US Agent. Something like that anyway. Let's not even go there with the flag smashers, could not get my head around anything about them, they didn't make any sense at all.
"Who runs like a duck" LMAO. The value of run style is so underrated. No matter how much they build up a MC, if they run funny, all that charisma is out the window, for me at least.
Watch Steven Seagal run.
The worst part...with a gait coach, her run could've been fixed in 2-4 weeks, tops. Some people run well naturally...this actress runs like a duck.
Anthony from cobra Kai can’t run either😂😂😂
@@alarrim29574 Who's Anthony? I only remember Lapusso
@@J1283-s1k 🤣🤣
The fact that the "writers" had no experience at all tells you everything.
"That's exactly what I was thinking"
-Kate Bishop
28 letters wasted in this bland fucking dialogue
What's important is DIVERSITY! Not talent, you silly goose.
You mean like how Tarantino had no writing credits before his first job?
Everyone has to start somewhere.
@@Vahktang really? Tarantino suck this is a all different era and writes should know what tf is going on by now we good stories
@@Vahktang - That’s why you have multiple writers - those without previous experience learn from those with it.
I tuned in to see a Clint Barton adventure featuring Kate Bishop, not the other way around. Not to mention, they fumbled the Ronin arc and ruined Kingpin in one episode. A total mess.
@@jonathansoko1085 CLEARLY this is the superior show. "It did in 6 episodes what took Arrow 6 SEASONs to do!"~ 😉
They should have just made a spin off of his time in japan as ronin doing vigilante stuff. Would be so much better than this garbo
@@jonathansoko1085 the first 2 seasons of Arrow and season 5 of Arrow are light years ahead of any of those Disney garbage shows
@@x_master_xtop410 lol as someone who watched Arrow, I couldn't disagree more. These are so much better and on another tier of quality. The CW shows are terrible. Legends? Batwoman? Flash? Etc...come on.
@@Bigpoppapump313 exactly, they skimmed over his Ronin face and gave us Disney Christmas show with him in it. Why not just do Season 1 him going through his Ronin phase, then season 2 you can introduce Bishop
Disney + had writers with no experience write Hawkeye as their first writing job? Who are they related to?
Just recently found out (from listening to Script Doctor on a Midnight's Edge panel) that lots of writers in hollywood can have a great degree of writing experience with doing re-writes or other treatments on studio scripts without recieving a credit that will reach an IMDB profile. They may be well known and considered reliable within the industry but not have those exterior facing credits.
So, a lack of Imdb profile is slightly less of a red flag than it might seem (at least as far as writing/dialogue is concerned) - though we've seen VERY mixed results from such unknowns.
I think the greater point that can still be argued is that the lack of a viewable credit may suggest these people have never had substantial responsibility for an overall project (which would presumably result in such credits).
@@ssharp755 a lot of words for a simple point
@@mercharris5266 As opposed to, very few words for an utterly pointless observation on a matter of opinion?
@@ssharp755 think my point is implicit. Cut down the verbiage
@@mercharris5266 OK.
No.
*Edit* Oh and at risk of offending your tender sensibilities, when I said your contribution was pointless that didn't mean the point you were attempting to make was unclear, so really, you should've left the entirety of your latest response unspoken if we're so desperately tied to brevity.
Destroying ?? It’s been destroyed the moment they said Captain Marvel is the most powerful character of ALL. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
more powerful than Arishem? The Watcher? infinity Ultron?
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 Scarlet Witch, Thor?
@@bigchungus1848 thor has seemingly retired from active superheroing according to Love and Thunder and Scarlet witch went insane and died a villain
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 I don't think Wanda is "Dead" , considering Agatha's Show is coming
@@sonikkuxviii1075 she isnt even close to dead
I hope Disney doesn’t announce a Daredevil movie anytime soon, it would be heart breaking to have that character destroyed as well
Its too late they already did that on the comics.
Only if Sony does it.
After seeing Kingpin...I think it's too late.
I was so excited with how they handled him in NWH. I'm starting to realize that NWH was just a fluke all around :(
We will always have the show
Hawkeye series was such a missed opportunity for us to see what clint went thru when the blip turned him into ronin…maybe in flashback scenes while dealing with a better villian in present day…..with the exception of wandavision how each disney plus series pulled a bait and switch smh 🤦🏻♂️
There was no bait and switch. The only reason you're saying that is because channels like Gary Ann's and such convince you there was some bait and switch.
When you go into these things with open eyes, it's pretty obvious to most that there was no "bait and switch".
It really wasn't though. It was obvious they are gonna make kate the new hawkeye. I've never read the comics and that was clear as day to me. Plus this wasn't wasn't even bad. Kate has flaws but slowly grows to be a better person and not blindsided to what she does.
@Knox2Don what a mature and intellectual response to a comment that’s 100% true
no bait and switch in "Wanda" "vision"? you must've forgotten it was Agatha all along lol
@@mustang6599 The name of the show is Hawkeye. But the story is about Kate Bishop? Tell me that's not a bait and switch. Why not name the series Kate Bishop? They named the show Hawkeye to make us think the show is more about Hawkeye. But it was more about Kate.
"Hawkeye written by winemoms directed by idiots"
Boy the fact that Spider-Man was the MCU’s best movie in all of 2021 says something!
Well yea it’s Spider-Man who doesn’t like him 😂
@@Powrur Facts 🤣
Because Sony had some directional say so
It's all sony tho. The same studio that made morbius😭
@@ezzekieldirks8542 Yeaaahhhh….. That movie. Well at least we’ll have Across the Spider-Verse next year 😂
Clint Barton "is essentially reduced to a human mcguffin." 😂 ...I love Nerdrotic
So glad I just watched this rather than the actual show. I seriously think seeing the destruction of Kingpin and Hawkeye like that would have led to a broken tv.
Neither of those things happened.
He’s a liar.
@Eye of Horus this is a weird comment. The Kingpin character is following the comic books. Not sure how that equates to "destroyed" because he'll 100% be back, which makes Dragonage2ftw's comment accurate. And haters spent the entire season bitching about how Hawkeye gonna die and be replaced by Kate Bishop...well... that didn't happen either.
@@Dragonage2ftw I think the proper term was "de-constructed," rather than "destroyed." Systematic deconstruction of characters, woke messaging, and so forth, are difficult for us normies to properly articulate. It doesn't mean we're wrong. We'll never win any debates on the subject, as we are not acquainted with the jargon of critique. But we know shite when we see it and we kbow when we're being messaged by woke nincompoops and party-poopers of every description.
@Eye of Horus Let me boil down what you're saying: "I'm sick of being gaslit."
@Eye of Horus We don't have a problem with subtlety and nuance. Literally all the complaints are so picky and lack nuance. This show was good and way better than what the CW could ever produce. Was it perfect? No. But it's not garbage.
Makes me think Disney-Marvel having Fantastic Four, X-Men, Blade, Moon Knight, and Deadpool isn't so great after all.
There is serious talk of removing the term XMen and changing it to something else
The only saving grace is Ryan Reynolds has full control over Deadpool
@@nickhousman6222 You know, Deadpool 2 exists. And that movie wasn't THAT good as the first one.
I mean moon knights trailer looks dope so hopefully at least that one won’t get messed up.
@@Walker-ow7vj that's what i keep telling myself. But there's no way D+ will make anything adult or dark or complex... the trailer is so good but it'll be another "gotcha". i hope i'm wrong though.
Kate Bishop was so annoying, like sure fangirling is normal, but this is life and death. A fucking black Widow, trained killers were there, so was the mob, and a dangerous assasin (Ronin). WHY ARE YOU CRACKING SO UNFUNNY JOKES, it makes no since to be so laid back like this.
The Kate Bishop running like a duck sound effect got me.
Probably much better than the show
And the Yelena farts 😆
Yea, it was disappointing the Jeremy didn’t even have a decent send off. It was all about passing the torch. Her step dad was more interesting
I almost resent Spiderman's success because I really think it's time for the MCU to wrap up. They're clearly out of ideas, their new characters are not going over with the fans and the whole thing is coming off as a hollow imitation of what is once was. Throw on a good helping of denigrating both characters and fans, and I just don't want to hear from this franchise anymore.
While Spiderman shows Disney and Marvel what they can achieve if they cater to the masses rather than lecture us - it also earned a phat stack (some of which Marvel will get) which helps clean their clock of the awful crap they've been putting out since Endgame and further fund shite like this in the future. The film was called Endgame - the clue is in the title - they should've just had the guts to end it, rather than let it zombie on like this.
If Tobey and Andrew hadn't been there would you still be saying the same?
Because I still wonder if people only praise the movie because of it and not the movie itself, which pretty much shows the double standards of many of you.
They are gender swapping every major character. Now it's female Loki, female, Thor, and Female Iron man.
When I saw Kingpin getting his ass his kicked by Kate Bishop, I immediately feared for Daredevil.
Dude did not get his ass kicked by Kate, she literally got her ass tossed around like a ragdoll for a solid 2 minutes of screentime.
What show did you watch??? He beat her up! He only got temporarily stunned when he was rammed into by a car… and he still walked away from that fine.
@@hippiichick6146
My issue with that was she never really got too injured from it. He was hitting with forces that would have caved her chest in.
@@hippiichick6146 Her being toss should have happened only once because he should have broken her. That was straight up garbage television.
@Julian R We know Spider-Man pulls his punches as he stated after he gave Kinpin a beating that's the difference.
“We did find his weakness, short women”😂😂
It's amusing the Black Widow movie basically made her look like a super soldier meanwhile Hawkeye gets nerfed.
When all these shows came out, I was. Thinking when am i gonna find the time to watch all these. It’s comforting to know I’m not really missing anything.
they’re awful. infinity war was a GREAT ending to the MCU.
@@trelavon724 you mean endgame?
@@noahhannon2305 in my opinion, infinity war was the perfect ending, i dont think going back in time and fixing your mistakes is a good ending its a terrible lesson, sometimes you give it everything you got and still lose
@@trelavon724 Bro, half the people on Earth vanished. You really think they shouldn't have went back in time to save billions of people? The lesson was to teach people to never give up and to make sacrifices for the people you care about.
@@RoyHoy first of all, i don’t think they should have went back in time and STEAL PEOPLE FROM THEIR TIMELINE !!! the people who came back to life came back to life the same way the disappeared, they came back to a different reality. if the infinity stone controls all reality , why can’t you make reality more coherent? also, i believe they should have won against thanos, the hulk would have redeemed himself, thor literally killed him if it wasn’t for the infinity stones, vision should have never been nerfed , they could have easily takin care of thanos if they had just used their brains
Imagine releasing 5 MCU series in one year and barely growing as a company while millions and millions of people are stuck at home.
Yeah, what are the chances?
That's what happens when all 5 shows suck...
I was really let down with black widow and Hawkeye, it shows how little regard for the characters the guys in charge (Feige of all people) have, both characters had a lot of potential to make great spy/action movies and they blew it. And also I really liked Palicki as mocking bird 😪.
Cringe.
Feige cares more then Nerdrotic does.
@@Dragonage2ftw i used to think so, however when he was given more power (no oversight) he disregarded the tv side and was an ah about it he could easily play ball since the tv side was very willing, then when given the keys for D+ he became more ah. He did loose sight and now is driven by power and kissing the right buts to keep climbing the corporate ladder the MCU and everything in it is secretary. Thus the lately results.
@@Dragonage2ftw Wow. Just wow.
Your not alone.
@@Dragonage2ftw Based on?
Feige did great work with the setup of the MCU, I'll grant you that, but after Avengers Infinity War the MCU has been a disaster. The same Feige who built up the Avengers characters so meticulously, now tears them down without even a second thought, only to replace them with totally unbelievable female versions.
What happened to this guy? Did he sell his balls to the woke-movement? Or was this always part of his "master-plan" with the MCU? I have a hard time believing the latter, so it seems like it's the first, which makes it all the more incredible. You spent 11 years building up the MCU with decent character development and storytelling and then revert to simple bait-and-switch tactics combined with horrible storytelling just to push an agenda? That's sad.
Look at how they massacred my boy Kingpin.
Yeah disney will Ruin daredevil as they ruined kingpin
I’m at the stage with the M-She-U where I’m more interested in Gary’s reviews than the actual show. At least he gets to the point and doesn’t chuck in meaningless filler and is consistently entertaining and informative.
@@flowinsounds WandaVision is hands down the best show so far. If you cut out all the crappt SHIELD scenes, you have a solid show with a good character arc and interesting plot. None of the other shows get close to that
@Sonic Hedgehog Yeah ok sums it up, as an Englishman the first few episodes mining old US tv shows for waaaaaay too long was coma inducing. Then the "mwahahaha" cartoon badguy was beyond cringe. Overall had great elements but was too confused in mixing plotlines to have any coherence in storytelling
Gary hates Asians, and anything he can do to degrade Asian women he will do.
Gary's reviews are filled with exaggeration and lies. You can see his Shang Chi review and how he manipulates us as viewers
@All Hail Megatron You need to stop being a coward and stand up against racism.
Almost every single one of these new shows are bait and switch handing off the "mantel" to a character no one is going to care about kind of show. The cherry on top is for most of them they get to belittle and destroy the character they are replacing. I would rather see these new characters introduced on their own...leave the OG characters out of it because by the second season that's what is going to happen anyway.
they don't respect legacy or how to properly hand it down. These boss babes earn nothing, they just steal every thing from the men. Not very stoic or worthy of being cared about at all in the end. Bad all around writing, even the Bayformers films had more logic then this.
Its persontle you bigot
I care about her. She's a well written and flawed character.
Hawkeye was always one of my favourite characters, I'm glad I didn't watch this atrocity.
Y'all are overreacting. It wasn't a bad show.
I watched 5 eps and just couldn’t anymore
@@ihatetheheat4524 it was a shit show
Wasn’t that bad of a show compared to the shit shows I’ve seen from Disney. It had its moments. I had very low hopes, came out pleasantly surprised. Hated the end.
By the time I got up off the couch this crap was forgotten
If DC could pull off 8 seasons of their own 'bow and arrow' super-hero why couldn't marvel?
Every Marvel movie has been reduced to, “We’re going to have the popular male characters mentor the female characters until episode 2 when we show you how much more awesome and better at everything the female versions of these characters are”
That’s why I’m going anime like my hero and demon slayer
They just wanna build the characters and have them go from bitches to heroes
They don't even do that do they? Don't they 'tell' rather than 'show'?
So it's not this show? She keeps screwing up to the very end and the only reason she survives kingpin is because she used clint's arrows and even then she barely survived and she still acts inexperienced
@@dimitriwarchief301 Atleast watch anime that are not shounen mediocrities
@Rune Kristensen The show is more abut kate bishop not Hawkeye atleast they should've named it Kate bishop and not Hawkeye and saved a lot of people time
Marvel acts like they hate all of their characters at this point except for Spiderman (technically a Sony property). It's sad watching Hawkeye and every other avenger become a sad joke only to be replaced by a small girl. The deaf girl with the fake leg was the icing on the cake. If are was transgender and in a wheelchair then she would be the most powerful being in the marvel universe! At this point I'm just waiting for the Batman to come out. At least they DC likes him and are trying.
That's a strange thing to say, since Clint is shown a lot of respect on this show.
There wasn’t a villain in this series that couldn’t have (just as easily) been taken down by the NYPD alone. So, apparently, the MCU message was that LE is lazy. This man held a fully loaded Infinity Gauntlet...and this is the series he got?
But todays NYPD wouldve seen what makeup the criminals and villains were and would’ve just stepped aside and let the crimes happen
I think that's kind of supposed to be the point of the show. Clint doesn't have any powers, but he has the knowledge and skills necessary to succeed against the enemies they show in the series. The problem is that they rarely ever showed him using said knowledge and skills...
I rewatched all the Netflix shows recently. It's weird to me how Daredevil S3 (and Punisher) got away with conservative undertones... like Karen defending the right to self defense... or Foggy defending the police union in their stance against the Feds... or even Matt's dedication to thr law when the politicians are corrupt and aren't enforcing it
There's no way that show would ever get made today
After Loki I just stopped watching MSHEU and Disney. Done with Marvel
So glad I’m not the only one who thought this show was utter garbage. Not even because of the M-She-U bait and switch, but because the script, pacing, and character development was all major doodoo
^ This
That's kind of the worst part for me. The M-She-U and D-She-EU can work if you put in the work, lay the foundation, and do it with proper care and respect to the source materials while also not tearing down the established characters.
The problem is that they skip all of the setup stages, tear down the established characters, shove the new characters down our throats, and expect us to care. The MCU succeeded, because it started with the solo movies, which made us care about the characters.
There was over 10 years between Ironman and Endgame, meaning over 10 years of getting attached to and caring about these characters, including several years of mostly solo movies before the first Avengers movie.
How the hell can the MCU write the damn book on how to succeed at superhero and comic book movies only to ignore the first half in the future movies and now TV series and be surprised when the future movies and TV series flop? How many times do they have to lose hundreds of millions of dollars before they learn their lesson?
The weird thing about this show is that it's the reverse. They somehow won me over on Kate Bishop. She was likeable by the end. But ofc, the one time they sell me on the new blood replacing the old school, they write a terrible story
Yes
I'm never going to be drunk or insane enough to watch this show, so I appreciate you doing it for us. And, in my opinion, both Hawkeye and Jeremy Renner deserve better. 😐
You could even say Kate, the Kingpin, Echo and Yelena deserve better. Nothing was wrong with the characters or the people who played them. Heck, they could have been great. It was all about how they were written.
It’s such a pile of shit…a complete bummer.
@@charlesws7825 Actually, Yelena was written really well in this. People are saying she was written better here than the BW movie.
The weird thing about this show is that Renner's Hawkeye and Kate Bishop were actually treated with respect. I liked Kate. She had a real character arc and didn't undermine Clint at all.
The problem is that almost everything else was terrible.
I saw the first episode, lost interest, and now the series is over.
Considering the utter garbage that came after, I'd call this a win.
Bottom of the barrel, woke garbage. Just like he said.
so if theres women and black people a show is garbage? Good job showing off your beliefs there buddy
You're just saying things now
There is only one thing I appreciate Hawkeye for.
For introducing me to Vincent D'Onofrio's Kingpin.
That prompted me to start watching Daredevil, one of the *best* series I've ever seen. And I'm not just talking Marvel shows. It's dark, serious, violent and completely amazing. There's everything - brutal violence and torture, legal drama and even a prison sequence. And if there's any whiff of a Woke agenda, I certainly haven't detected it. With Elektra, the show has zero issues with presenting her exactly as a deceptive, manipulative and murderous sociopath. And she still manages to be a truly strong female character. The other great female lead, Karen Page, is anything but a "Karen" - she is smart and beautiful but also thoroughly feminine and doesn't try to constantly emasculate her male friends, as seems to be the custom now. And the characters portrayed by People of Colour, like Claire (the Nurse), Sgt Brett Mahoney and the reporter Ben Urich are all perfectly cast. They just do their jobs with passion. No race-baiting or SJW posturing at all.
Amazing show.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Daredevil is truly the best Marvel show to ever exist.
Amen, I might have to go watch the whole thing a third time. It's definitely the best out there. I would recommend Luke cage as a decent show, and Jessica Jones is good too once it gets going (season one is anyway) Iron first starts well but goes downhill, and all these together gives you the defenders, which could have been done much better than it was.
Damn, Hawkeye introduced you to Vincent D'nofrio that's a shame.
Daredevil's Kingpin >>>>>>>>>> Hawkeye's Kingpin
@@craigscraigwastaken6776 Definitely not the greatest ever made , but it's a decent comic show . I'd say shows like Doom Patrol , and Legion definitely give Daredevil a run for it's money. It's probably the best superhero show that covers vigilantism and ponders those deeper questions of what the hero's go through , but it's definitely not the most unique, and it uses a lot of those tropes that were created in Batman.
Cap. It's obvious you were a fan of that low-rated show before typing this garbo.
This sounds like a soap opera written by women for women.
🏳️🌈?
the most useless tv show ever , hawkeye was a spectator in the show. 20 kgs teenage girls were the main actors beating up 90 kgs MMA trained men . pure waste of my time woke nonsense
They revealed that Mockingbird was Hawkeye's wife and did nothing with that back story? Wow. What a waste.
I felt that finale fight with Kingpin was off as well and for obvious reasons, but I failed to realize just how much. See, I hadn't seen the Daredevil shows until after watching the Hawkeye series. I just witnessed Kingpin seemingly effortlessly decapitate a man with the door of an SUV.
Hawkeye was a joke!
You see I watched Daredevil when it first came out and im telling you... when he decapitated that guy's head thats when i knew the show would be different!
Hawkeye turned him into a cartoon character
Kingpin is clearly taking it easy with Kate, but even so being thrown across a room several times would have shattered her skeleton, never mind the concussions.
yep kingpin wasnt that strong in netflix
I remember the kingpin scene as one of the few moments of me shouting and cursing at my TV for the pure stupidity.
The series peeked with Clint suffering through "Rogers - the Musical "
Agreed. Not feeling hopeful about Daredevil or Punisher coming to the Mouse. Hated the Wandavision Disneyfied endings.
There going to water down daredevil and punisher so much
@@nickhousman6222 I wish Disney would have the balls to make Mature content
@@bigchungus1848 They had the balls to steal Daredevil and Punisher back, making the shows get cancelled.
Like imagine the Punisher on DISNEY+??? I just can't.
Moon Knight was bad
They ruined Kingpin
Their fight scenes so far don't even have real weight behind them like the Netflix shows did (minus Iron Fist 😂)
I can see them watering down Daredevil which is dumb but i can't see them even attempting to do the Punisher. His whole character is about killing bad people, most often brutally
CJ I feel your pain I'm terrified as well but let us take solace in the fact that I have it on very good authority from a credible source that is far as the punisher and Daredevil go the directors producers and Main writers for both shows are actually still going to be a part of the team so the fact that they're bringing back a lot of the cash writers and producers Maple dwell maybe Kevin will step back and let the teams that made the shows great keep the shows great so we don't have to sit back and watch Daredevil get a sex change and and punisher come out as non-binary bi-curious I'm just sick of all the b******* so I'm hoping that all that comes to fruition and we don't have to put up with any more of the lgbtq transpocalypse work agenda cuz I can't take anymore it's too much these are already two shows with a great cast great writers that I've already had successful season so let them recreate that magic because you obviously are not the people to do it you're trying to do other s*** you know so why don't you take a break from trying to turn my son into a ferry where's lingerie and make a good comic book adaptation for once
9:10
"Hey somebody finally gets shot by an arrow and it's Echo and she shakes it off like she's Taylor Swift."🤣🤣🤣
Writers: So you want “campy” like Guardians of the Galaxy?
Disney: No, campy like the I Love Lucy chocolate factory episode.
Disney started killing the MCU as soon as Stan Lee died
Would have preferred a Hawkeye story myself but using him to tell someone else's story is typical of Disney's bubble mentality. They really believe if you feed them soy they will like it, even if it's eventually. Having said that I thought Widow wasn't one of Marvel's worst movies and the ending with sister widow on the hunt for Clint was what I was looking forward to in the Hawkeye series. Nat's death still carries a lot of feels for me and that could have had a proper resolution with the series... but not to be. Instead we have (another) coming of age superhero story with too many extra characters to give any true development.
The Hawkeye comics are all about Kate Bishop tho but please cope harder
Kate’s gone by Hawkeye since she was created a decade ago, so you did in fact get what you wanted.
@Rune Kristensen Hawkeye been around since the 60's not bishop most comic book shit the past decade has been shit so in fact dont get the real Hawkeye story
@Rune Kristensen just said most comic shit the past decade has been shit never said anything on how long she has been around,2005 that is by the way,the real hawkeye the one that everyone wants to see is from the 60's see above learn to read doopdick!
Truth is people likes soy.
MCU movies haven't stopped or reducted the amount of money they get from tickets and merchandising. It's not like people enjoys bad tv shows i think people just see this as a mid-filler till the big movies come. Besides we've had a couple good shows like what if and Loki
Are you fucking kidding me! I thought falcon was a steaming turd. Ughhhh.
They destroyed the MCU a long time ago. All they do now is pour salt on the wound.
More like lemon
@Julian R Why not both!?
On Netflix Kingpin decapitates a guy by repeatedly smashing his head in a car door. On D+ he gets beaten like Elmer Fudd whilst wearing a hawaiian shirt...
One show was rated R, one show is rated PG-13. Obviously, they’re not gonna get away with that
Kingpin wasn't an uncle. He was anticlimactic.
I started off liking certain elements of the show, including Kate, but the comedy ultimately killed my enjoyment. Forget dramatic tension -- who needs *that* in a superhero show? Almost every single scene has to be trivialized by a goofy joke, even in the climatic episode, and I'm sick of it. Give me Marvel Netflix any day of the week.
This 💯
A Christmas show was Go00OFfTlYy!!!?!??!? Well let's cancel it and clutch out pearls!!!!!
@Julian R Let's be honest how long did that impact full scene last before a quip/joke?
Did you watch the show? There were multiple scenes in which there no jokes, at all. One scene where Kate had a discussion with her mom, and same with Clint and Yelena. Theres a few more than that.
@@LarryBonson in the discussion between those two? There were no jokes at all.
What a mess.
You are such an oracle. You foresaw everything three years in advance. No wonder you have more than a million subscribers, me included.
The introduction of Kingpin was pathetic. I recently re watched daredevil and yeah he do not belong here
Monkey’s on a typewriter is exactly what this story is. Cat’s fighting is hilarious.🤣😂
Netflix kingpin>>>>>>>>disney kingpin
How long can Hollywood keep LOSING?
I agree with almost all of this. But I also noticed the kid being a different race than her parents in the black widow episode; but just figured she was adopted because black widows cannot have kids.
Damn, I didn't consider that. Good observation.
I was laughing for a couple minutes over that scene then I remember Black Widows are sterile and the kid was probably adopted.
That moment when the lady literally says "We adopted 3 years ago" when Yelena gets blipped back. Like no shit sherlock
As if it isn't enough that we have diverse LARPers.
They’re gonna make her a future black widow who fights the organization’s name as a racist.
Bait and switch failure? My Ass! Hawkeye is awesome!
The music in the beginning got me , cracked me up !!!!
The whole Black Widow's sister's revenge sub plot was stupid and pointless.
Hahahaha she pulled that barbed arrow out of her shoulder like it was a splinter. Marvel can’t even make realistic situations realistic anymore 😅
If they had set out to make a good Hawkeye show, featuring Hawkeye and his adventures, this had good potential to succeed. The actors playing Hawkeye & Kate Bishop look the parts, and interesting. If only they had hired qualified, good, writers. Too bad about the rest.
Exactly, they tried to rush the passing of the torch, causing the entire project to fail miserably.
@@LucianDevine Also, why pass the torch at all ?
@@sorbabaric1 Because actors get old. So you either have to pass the torch, reboot with a new actor, or find an in-story reason to explain the appearance change. They don't have any original ideas anymore. So they have to just constantly do sequels, prequels, reboots, etc.
@@LucianDevine Yes, but surely this actor has a good 3 to 5 more years in him in this role, but since the writers and producers can’t commit to the idea of a male lead protagonist, even for 1 season, especially if it’s a mature man, it doesn’t work well. Even with a female co-lead or up and coming side kick, they start the silly billy trivializing and deconstruction of the male character (s). It’s a pattern now.
@@sorbabaric1 Yup, sad but true. 1 Season of Hawkeye being a badass is all we needed. Then we could maybe do a time skip or have him losing his hearing start to hinder what he can do, leading to him taking Kate under his wing, and then moving on with passing the torch, but they couldn't even give us that...
We all knew that naming the show “Hawkeye” was an instant subversion, cause Kate is the new Hawkeye
I thinks your reviews be even funnier the older they get for some reason 😂😂😂
I love your reviews, perfectly spot on. Hawkeye was portrayed as a pathetic weakling. How was this Hawkeye able to take on the chitauri, ultron and Thanos. Horribly ridiculous
...Because this Hawkeye isn''t trying to Kill anyone, he just wants to clear his name.
@@Spidervenom23 but how about not letting them kick your ass, either?
@@baffledking9902 ...cause he's almost 50 years old and also the only person who "Kick His ass" was Yelena and he wasn't trying to fight her in the scene.
Ok but he literally wasn’t??? Did you guys watch the same movie I did? He kicked tons of people’s butts! Unless you are talking about him being sad about not seeing his kids on Christmas or having aged from war and stuff. Remember he is 5 years older after the snap because he didn’t blip and he doesn’t have super powers. He is an old man but he still kicked some butt too. I’m gonna be honest I didn’t care for a Hawkeye solo show (which is what I thought this would be) the due seems leagues more interesting to me. And despite what people keep saying I really don’t think they tried to have Kate bishop up show Hawkeye. They seemed like partners, and honestly even though Hawkeye aged even at the end he was clearly more experienced than Kate. I was surprised at how good this show was considering nothing even interested me about a Hawkeye show at all. Things change and rather than recasting Clint Barton I personally would rather have a different character anyways.
@@NatCatKitty he was so much more experienced than her that he needed her to save his life twice. This show was written to make Clint look weak, so they can replace him ASAP.
I did not realize we had so many 100 lb women who could beat the crap out of Hawkeye, Thor, or Loki. I hate to see what is going to happen to the Hulk when She-Hulk is released.
Yeah. She-Hulk will be twice as powerful and Bruce will tell us how she is better in every way. Maybe she will hit Hulk so hard he turns into Bruce.
The tragedy is that there are *so* many ways to write strong, engaging, bad-ass female characters, but all of these hack writers choose none of them. Much easier to tear down established heroes and villains, which requires no talent at all. Burn in hell, Disney. Also, for anyone who never watched it, go watch the Daredevil series. I loved the original comics, and they really did it justice (no pun intended, but I'll keep it lol.)
Look at Yellowstone. Beth may be the baddest character, not even talking just female here, of all time. They wrote her so well. Strong both mentally and physically but with plenty of flaws unlike mcu female characters where they seem to have none and everything handed to them.
There are undertones of "the message" on that show but it's completely distant in comparison to the dedication to good writing by show writer Jamie Sheridan.
Disney is just either lazy or they really do just care more about shoving identity politics into our eyeballs at every single turn that they can.
The tragedy is they are writing strong, engaging, bad-ass female characters and you're too busy on UA-cam to notice.
@@TheaterPup They not writing strong female characters just Mary Sue.
The supposed bad ass momma bear who needs no man and is some big boss ends up being in that position of power because of a dead dude who earned all that power passed away, and she ended up taking it all for her own including said debt? And with that power came owing a bad guy instead of letting bad guy take from what the dead dude created to pay off said debt, carrying on the responsibility of that debt because the bad guy was okay with that arrangement? It really makes no sense; it just shows that women gain power by taking power that is not their own when convenient lol!
Regardless, this lady playing powerful lady boss only is powerful because she took from a guy when he died, she didn't create that power for her own, she received that power because of a familial bond I guess, she didn't earn it for herself at all she is powerful because she stole that power from a guy who died, and the writers don't see this as further questions regarding female empowerment lol!! As it stands in reality, no woman has created more wealth than the lady who divorced Bezos, she divorced and received more money than any powerful woman in this world, this MCU garbage I guess validates this way into positions of power too. What does this tell young women really lol!
@@LarryBonson LOL Dude, I agreed that Rey was a Mary Sue, but now you people are seeing them behind every corner. Get a grip.
my most fav part of Clint saying to Yelena that Nat was always talking about her. Because,she never once did since 2010.
My favourite part was the fireman stealing from the scene of a fire and instead of this having any consequences or being an issue at all, Hawkeye has to make a deal with him to get his own property back.
And then the thief becomes part of the super friends group.
So you have problems with thieves being heroes, damn. You must REALLY hate Star-Lord, Rocket, and Ant-Man.
To be fair, FDNY has long been famous for stealing from emergency scenes.
@@jimmy5170 you've missed the point.
All of those characters face consequences for stealing.
No one mentions to the fireman that maybe he shouldn't have stolen and he doesn't seem to think he did anything wrong either.
@@youtubecensors5419 I thought that might be a thing.
I was still surprised that Hawkeye didn't say anything about it though.
@@jimmy5170 you missed to point.
Just started rewatching Daredevil today for fun.... and it made me hurt so bad inside when I remembered how good of a Kingpin we already had. And then D+ goes ahead and makes him the incompetent version. But I would never pay for D+. Torrent is king.
Wait, Clint's wife is the Mockingbird? Have they forgotten their own Agents of SHIELD series and their own Mockingbird played by fabulous Adrianne Palicki? Seriously? I know they don't care about continuity in the MCU but this just shows those "writers" haven't even looked up the Wikipedia to check if someone's already played the character in that universe.
Agents of shield is not canon
I haven't seen this show. Why are they killing everyone who escaped the Squid Games?
This world is so shit sometimes. Why can't we have nice things? Like a Hawkeye show that focuses on Hawkeye?
I am feeling overwhelming sadness and anger about this show. Absolute garbage.
Oh please, you’re acting like they killed off Clint in the first episode in his first scene. Kate bishop is Hawkeye in the comics as well as Clint. The title of the show refers to them both, plus the trailers for this show made it clear that it would focus on both Clint *and* Kate
@@GustEdgeOfficial they basically did kill him. Did you watch the show?
They could've done so much more. They could've created a much better show.
But no. We must kill off every single male character to make room for strong female characters. Get real.
My gawd that was from the show? Man this is as bad as Superman getting a Kryptonite Rod shubbed up his ass.
There hasn't been any point in even pirating any non-Sony (ie, Disney) MCU since Captain Marvel. Not worth 10 seconds of anyone's time who has an IQ in triple digits.
Kevin Smith made a movie about convenient store deviants, Losers that hang out at the mall, and bi sexual women who's not sure if she wants to spend her life taking hot dogs or eating tacos. French Toast Kevin Smith!
Heres my idea for a Hawkeye series: As ronin, Clint messes with kingpin's operations and kills his men. 25% different kingpin from the Daredevil series has a protege or right hand man who gets killed by ronin in one of his rampages. Kingpin traces ronin, who is identified as Kate bishop when she goes through that convoluted procedure to get the suit. Clint and Kate meet up in a similar manner but instead of the tracksuit mafia or whatever, there are actual, competent henchmen. Clint also gets more time with his family, who he must regretfully leave on Christmas Eve to go save Kate's ass. Upon learning that Hawkeye is covering for Kate's ronin, kingpin kidnaps Hawkeyes family, thinking that Hawkeye is nothing without the avengers. When Clint learns about this, him and Kate team up to fight through the ranks of kingpins men to rescue the family and save the day, showing character development by showing us that he can take on a threat without the avengers using his brains, brawn and a capacity for teamwork
It may make the show a bit more divorced from the grand scheme of the MCU, but it puts Hawkeye front and center featuring him doing actual detective like work to get to the conclusion. It's a simple and probably trite premise, but it is impossible to mess up
How, exactly would Kingpin find Clint's family. Even the other Avengers (apart from Nat) never knew they existed, never mind where they were...
@@scottmcmahon86 idk. I'm just shooting a basic plot synopsis
I ve never yawned so much during any Marvel show, hawk eye doesn't deserve this
I laughed too hard at the cat fight overlay 🤣
The villains sucked. Echo sucked, her little buddy sucked. The tracksuit gang sucked. Kingpin sucked. The evil mother was ok I guess? And the Black Widow sister side-plot was pretty underwhelming.
Disney/Marvel: "Why make millions when we could make...thousands?"
Fans/customers: "A million is more than a thousand, ya' dopes."
Ha...good one.
Disney's making billions, actually.
@@ShadowSonic2 If you want to generalize, sure. In this case, watch the video again and find out what I'm referring to. Oh, you may also want to look into a sense of humor. They're inexpensive and low maintenance. Oh, just in case, I've got some gold watches. Good quality iron pyrite. They don't make 'em like this anywhere.
@@danieldb631 what
Soon as hawkeye mentioned "the big guy" I was like FUCK... they gonna ruin him. I literally told my friend I was watching the show with if anything short of Kingpin having EVERYBODY brutally murdered happens im gonna be disappointed.
Edit: imagine they made this show with the vibes of daredevil. of Clint going and cleaning up the mess he left as Ronin, by himself. They should have made it with the same brutality of daredevil. (they actually could have included daredevil and kingpin.) it would have been so fucking cool. They could have even tried to show why Wilson fisk is no longer in prison (maybe his wife was on a plane when the snap happened and the pilots dissapeared and she died in the crash removing the leverage daredevil had to keep Fisk in prison. Since they want to bring in daredevil to the mcu and all. The scene in endgame with barton and the sword is so badass. that is what I wanted.
Are you familiar with the concept of “people who haven’t seen Daredvil and don’t have Netflix that need to be introduced to Kingpin”?
They didn’t ruin him, he’s not dead, he goes through this in the comics and lives.
They would never make a show like that for Disney+, and they aren't going to put something related to Marvel on Hulu or Star+
They killed DareDevil as a show in the third season sadly.
@@DanteColburn a man can dream.
I mean he's the villain, he's going to lose, Daredevil also defeated him.
The way all the blame was put on Kate's father with one throw away line with her mother telling Kate it was all his fault because he took money from King Pin just seemed like a way push they blame off the mom on to her dead father.
That is how feminist are most of the time
O my God....you hardcore anti Sjws and Sjws themselves complain about everything like spoilt little children.
The lack of independent thought among these two groupies is astounding
Interestingly the 4 MCU movies released this year are in the top 6 highest grossing movies of the pandemic era .....last 2 years
@@diannajennings266 Calm down.
@@Nelo_Wolf lol
The cat howling fight and flowery impact sounds are tear inducing 😂😂😂
Bruh they killed king pin... NO FUCKING WAY daredevil entering mcu without king pin even being there...
@@CoolOkay_ he was shot in the Head in the Hawkeye series and the camera goes away so... I guess he was dead of screen even such a waste of a fucking awesome vilain
Thank you Nerdrotic for the entertaining review! It’s unfortunate this show sucks, Hawkeye as a character is so cool it’s such a pity.
Spot on about how "understanding" Laura Barton is! As a fellow happily married husband who knows better than to be hanging out alone with a "young hottie", those scenes were so cringey!
Hawkeye was fine. I'm as a conservative as you can get and you guys make me believe that toxic masculinity (a term I hate) is a real thing. Are you truly that threatened by all this? Grow up.
I’m just confused on how Hawkeye is woke
Exactly, like I thought that guys like him (who I, as someone who is also right leaning, really hate to call misogynistic, but let’s be real they totally are) would at least be satisfied with all the attractive young women in tight outfits on screen in this show, but I guess when it comes to his precious little superhero franchise (which was previously almost a sausage fest), having a woman with an important main role, some *actual* agency, as well as making her someone who isn’t a femme fatale or a damsel in distress who constantly needs saving, that would all ruin his little fantasy wouldn’t it? I loved the MCU ever since 2008 and guys like him who claimed to be fans of it back in the day and just rag on it now for hate clicks almost make me embarrassed to say I’m still a fan, lest I get associated with grifter chuds like him.
Disney ruined everything. Live action vomit, Star Wars destroyed, it's all garbage.
If you wanna see Jeremy Renner being badass go watch mayor of Kingstown. And after what they did to kingpin, I don't understand how people are still hyped for matt Murdock on the MSheU......
the power levels of the characters in this show is weird. clint, who can go toe to toe with black panther, is struggling with yelena and echo. assuming that yelena is that good, why is she struggling with an amateur like kate?
Is simple, they f'ed this up man.
I thought it was pretty clear that Clint didn't want to hurt his dead best friend's little sister, so he didn't fight her all out.
Yelena also wasn't trying to kill Kate. She even says that if she wanted Kate dead, she'd have killed her the second she opened the door.
not at any point during the show was clint, black widow, or kingpin trying to kill anyone dude. that's all.
this has nothing to do with 2016 "SJW" shit, maybe re watch the show and read between the lines before going off. kingpin literally only "lost" because he never tried to kill anyone or even hit them hard. he was paying NO ATTENTION to kate that's the only reason he lost. not no "woman better" bs.
I never did understand why marvel or dc didnt just put their best stories on screen and let them sell themselves. Whoever was involved in the daredevil tv show certainly needs to comeback.
I stopped watching less than halfway through. This wasn’t Hawkeye. This was a show for that girl.