It does not demonize knowledge. That is silly. Where do you get that in the story? It warns about getting wisdom (the knowledge of good and evil) by doing an end run around God - who is the source of all wisdom and understanding.
@@hollyhayes9640 Interestingly, Lilith was mentioned; in the versions of the story that Lilith is mentioned in, Lilith is the serpent. It's interesting largely cause this can lead to the interpretation that Lilith freed herself, then went back to also free Eve, which kinda moves things to the immediate narrative that God is evil and freed people know that.
Evangelicals be like "See, this Satan worshipping gay-agenda pushing atheist admits to corrupting our children. Please won't someone think of the children!" Satire as a concept seems to elude them, or be seen as blasphemy if picked up on.
Young and intelligent despite the history and reach of ignorant religion. This lady gives me hope that humanity will prevail. Bravo to her and associates.
Imagine a parent telling a 4 year old not to touch the cookies in a jar while placing it well within that child's reach and then go into hiding just waiting to pounce on the child the minute that jar gets touched! That is some seriously abusive parenting but it's OK if some fictional god does it!
I'm pretty sure Adam and Eve weren't four. A more accurate comparaison is imagine He gives access to an entire candy shop, but ask you not to eat the cake.
@@Megaspinosaurusrex They where incapable of differentiating between good/evil that is the equivalent of a child 4 or younger. Physically, they might have been older, but mentally they were 4 or younger, at least in regards to tell good from bad.
I use to really piss off my yeshiva teachers by asking, “if the tree is called the Tree of Knowledge, why didn’t got want them to eat the fruit? Did he want them to be ignorant?” Really got under their skin, and a question teachers are not equipped to answer from a 9-year-old.
It shouldn’t be a difficult question to answer. Ignorance is bliss and while knowledge is a good thing, it can also make you less happy. The story is about how knowledge is power and humans gained a lot more power than any other species on the planet, and since they gained that power before they were ready for it (power without the necessary wisdom) they didn’t wield that power responsibly. It’s a story about why humans in certain cultures have an exploitative relationship to other species and he planet as a whole. We would have stayed in the “garden” if we gained wisdom before we gained power, but we gained power first and didn’t understand that power comes with responsibility. And now we can’t go back because giving up knowledge would also be a bad thing. We just have to continue forward and try to gain wisdom/responsibility and restore the garden ourselves. It’s a perfectly good story to describe that aspect of human identity and why we seem to be in conflict with the world more than any other species. And I’m pretty sure anyone with a little bit of knowledge of human history and how literary analysis and myth interpretation works could have explained it to a kid. That person was either a young earth creationist or just not thinking very clearly if they couldn’t come up with ANY idea about what this story means in relation to knowledge being portrayed as ‘bad’. It’s not that ignorance is good, it’s just that knowledge is power and power corrupts if you’re not careful.
@@emmanarotzky6565 No, that isn't what the story is about. You're just making up an explanation that you like. The entire lesson the bible is telling is that ignorance is the only way to live. The Tree of Knowledge is bad. Heaven is eternal worship while not remembering your human life. It's better to toil and die broke or even enslaved than to cause any waves or think about how bad your life is. The idea that blind faith is the only way to worship their god and that you can't know it exists or else your worship would be pointless. The entire point of Christianity is that the stupid masses need to be told a fairy tale to keep them in line. You pretending that isn't the case won't change that.
When I was five years old, my mother thought it was good for my education to learn something about religion. She bought a children's version of the bible and started reading it aloud for me. Once she got to the story of Kain and Abel, which is still pretty much near the start of the book, I got really upset. That was not a nice story. The fairy tales I had been read before may have had scary moments, but at least they always had a happy ending. The story of Kain and Abel, certainly did not have a happy ending and that made me really upset, which was a horrible way to start the night. I asked my mother to put that book away and never read from it again, which she did. That was my introduction to religion. It was brief, it was unpleasant and I have never felt the slightest appeal to it. I simply have no talent for religion.
Nobody told you about gentle Jesus? Or about the God who created you ... along with spiders, snakes, stinging nettles, Putin, Hitler, hemlock ... and ignorance, and things imaginary that don't really go PLOP in the night but can be (and are) milked/fleeced to vanishing point by the unscrupulous?
I do remember Sunday School, but they weren't just cherry-picking certain verses, they had planted a whole alternative orchard. Much later when I DID study the Bible - the WHOLE Bible, I could certainly see how it needed to be sanitized so it won't scare kids to death. I think the Bible is fascinating, and a great deal of it is myth, but seeing it as myth doesn't mean to dismiss it. Myth is tremendously meaningful in that it's illustrative of the human condition and has a lot of cultural relevance. But not many of us take the Greek gods literally, so word-for-word Biblical belief puzzles me. I knew a scholar who said, "I take the Bible seriously, not literally," and that makes sense to me. Hell, I love Jesus, I think his teachings/sayings (probably composites of several different prophets) are moving and meaningful to me. But how can you take four different versions of Jesus literally? If it's mythology, it serves up rich examples of how complicated humans are. Myth can mean "this didn't happen", but it can also mean "this kind of thing happens all the time".
It's all about WP. (WP? Yep! Wealth & Power, nothing else.) Battles are won by "whoever gets there the firstest with the mostest" ... and it's exactly the same with religions. (Note my casual use of the plural there, religions); and here's the fun bit- -they are all of them the unique (it means the one-and-only) word of God. Gods. All of them. Each, and every. And there are many, their names are legion (which means oodles of, as in lots, plenty of).
"She rushed over to Adam" I like how they frame this as Eve realizing she's sinned, then sprinting over to Adam to trick him into it. The Bible literally says he was standing right there when she ate it
@@4rtiphi5hal19 Adam just stood there unperturbed by the sight of a naked Eve zooming towards him with a thousand storm and crack of thunder trailing in her wake swallowing and churning everything in their path.
There are actually two creation accounts in the bible. So though the book is a little Inaccurate, there is an account where man was made first and then followed the rest of creation.
@@inyobill I only read it the once, since it's so fucking boring, but that was enough for me. I read it to reinforce my faith and it ended up shattering it. That seems to be the case for most atheists who were raised Christian, though.
I ended up looking into the Lilith story and holy shit, apparently she was banished from the garden to hell because she did not "obey and submit" to Adam. That's fucked up.
Lilith - the original feminist. The bible itself shows us how just daring to consider herself equal to Adam made god Furious. I love reminding people of her existence when they use the whole "Eve came from a rib therefore belongs to Adam and women are subservient" fallacy. But becoming the mother of all demons is much more badass and certainly a better origin story for humans not being the product of incest. (The story of Adam and Eve without Lilith in the picture should mean true Christians and the god they worship approve of incest BTW, fun little fact that they seem to forget.)
A story where a man made from dirt and a woman made from bone get kicked out of paradise because a talking snake convinces then to eat magical fruit. Sounds legit
@@visaman The story never mentions what the Serpent looked like before, just that it would have to crawl around after the punishment. Maybe it always looked like a snake but had a sweet hoverboard?
Luckily I was asked to leave Sunday school as a little kid, I seemingly asked too many questions that they couldn't answer to my satisfaction. I think my father was secretly very proud. Plus if they can't handle the dissent of a primary school child it's pretty obvious they have no proof. In one of the last pictures of the book, the angel with the flaming sword. He was wearing clothes too; ones a lot better than the ones God made for Adam & Eve!? Had the angel sinned? Why did it need clothes? Did God wear clothes?
I went to a Catholic highschool and at a parent teacher conference the nun asked my mom if she knew what I had asked her. my mom's said "I can only imagine" follow by the nun saying that I asked " how do we know the bible wasn't just a book someone wrote for controlling people?" my mom asked, "so what did you tell him?" the nun wasn't impressed
@@BH-fi1sb Soooooo was your mom proud of you? Did your mom tell your dad? What did he say? Also what you said about the bible is incredible and so funny and true
Too many good quotes from Emma in this video “It’s always about finding Jesus, about finding God. Let God find you, pick a good hiding spot and see if he comes!” 😂
Many years ago I was round a Catholic friends house when I noticed a small book on his desk. It was a picture book on science meant for Catholic schoolchildren, I opened it and saw a picture representing an atom. Alongside it there was text which posed this question, "protons all have the same electical charge so why doesn`t the nucleous fly apart". The answer "Gods love". I showed this to my friend and told him about the strong nuclear force, something of which he knew nothing about.
Takes me back to primary school. I went to the US for a wedding a few years ago, I was newly divorced and went to church with my friend (she’s a believer) the dude was preaching about how those who divorce burn in hell. Then after we were having coffee and cake, he came up to have a chat knowing I was from the UK, asked what religion I was, told him I was raised in the C of E for which he tried to say that was the UK equivalent of his religion. I get a real kick out of saying that C of E was created by Henry VIII so he could get divorced. If that doesn’t prove how bollocks this stuff is, then I guess I’m gonna burn in hell 🤣🤣
Technically Henry VIII didn't divorce anyone what really happened is he got his clergy to find him reasons as to why his marriage to Catherine of Aragon wasn't valid that is to have it annulled. The Pope disagreed hence the split with the Catholic Church. Anne was beheaded not divorced, Jane died in child birth. The marriage to Anne of Cleves was never consummated so was not a real marriage. Catherine Howard was executed and the last Catherine Parr was his wife till Henry died. That means Henry only legally had 4 wives by Henry reckoning or 2 Catherine of Aragon and Catherine Parr by the Catholic Church.
@@mattm8870 Technically you are both correct as The Church of England was formed when Henry VIII refused to acknowledge the Pope in Rome, as he would not allow him to remarry, and declared himself the Head of Church in England
I guess you are going to burn in hell then if you think whether some pastor likes divorce or not is what determines your stance on the existence of God. It's bizarre how many atheists with their superior attitudes end up having completely irrelevant reasons for their unbelief, even as they mock believers. They don't believe in God because they don't like something they heard a preacher say or they don't like a verse in the Bible. Somehow they feel they can determine the metaphysical truths of the universe by whether or not they have an emotional reaction to a Bible verse about gay people. And they consider themselves rational. It's ludicrous. I'm not saying the Bible is true here. I'm saying that there are a lot of atheists out there with silly reasons for believing it's not.
He doesn't have any authority to condemn you to hell. Is he the one who is going to make that decision or God?. What about Jesus's forgiveness? Don't worry God won't let you suffer hell if you don't want to. By you listening to him & not Jesus's teaching on forgiveness gives one the impression that you misread something somewhere.
I was told mermaids were real. My grandma had one of those weird mummified Ripley's Believe It Or Not fish people (in reality it's the top half of a monkey and the bottom half of a fish) and was convinced it was a mermaid. It tied heavily into her evangelical Revelation obsession in all sorts of weird and contrived ways. She thought the thing was a sign of demons entering the world and that God's Wrath was at hand. She also claimed thst I was the Chosen One, and said she had dreams of me saving the world by joining the airforce and bombing God's enemies... did I mention she was racist too? She was and used religion to justify. She used the Mormon ideas of how peoples skin color worked. I ended up joining the army for water purification but then got out. Now I'm a lab technician. It took me YEARS to get all the religious programming out of me. She said we had a dragon guarding our backyard, Satan was making a portal in our old rusty fridge.... so many stories like this. And what sucked in hindsight is I believed her because she was an adult who I thought had my best interests at heart.
I have a friend that used to believe these same type things. I used to take her to her appointments at the mental health department where I was being treated for depression. My friend has schizo-affective disorder and she used to see demons and entry portals where they traveled from spirit world and the physical world. Sorry, my babies interrupted me. She said the demons would enter her body and breed worms that would crawl under her skin. There were times she would try to dig these demon worms out of her arms. This doesn't happen anymore since she has stayed on her medication for many years now. It was more difficult in her early 20s to watch her get worse and worse not knowing what was going on. I was still a "believer" at the time, and we tried to go to several different churches around here. This was at a time I started to seriously question my faith and what I was brought up in. One of the many things that got me to question my faith was trying to find a good church for my friend. Every church we went to though, she would have a "miraculous" healing of her "demons" and then she would make a membership pledge and stop taking her meds out of "faith". Everytime she would end up in the hospital and mental hospital after trying to get the "demon worms" out of her arms. She would lose apartment after apartment because she would have no money to pay rent. Most of her money would go to "faith pledges" and "miracle healings" and she would be homeless living in the women's shelter time after time. No miracles ever happened, only after finding the right meds and a few years of real therapy has she come through. It was a long and tedious journey for her, not a instant miracle by the magic sky daddy. Science helped her come through but she won't tell you that. She is still a firm believer in God, and we did find a church that accepted her as schizo. They are better than most churches around here, and they don't tell her to stop taking her meds. I'm sure my disbelief and many life life changes in the past 10years now has pulled us apart and we're not as close as we used to be. I still think of her and all she struggled with. Sometimes I think people who have beliefs like that have some kind of untreated mental illness, and feel for them and hope they get real help.
That sounds like some serious mental illness going unchecked I can't imagine telling a kid "you're going to save the world". The crushing weight of that kind of responsibility for something that was nonsense must've been terrifying
@@jurassicsmackdown6359 It was. I felt like everyone was constantly watching me, and that I was a failure. Because of religious stuff, I also got it in my mind that everyone could read thoughts, and I was the only person who couldn't. So whenever someone gave me a weird look, I assumed it was because they read my mind and saw I wasn't worried about the end of the world and so they were judging me. And I'd feel guilty and start thinking about how I was supposed to be this Chosen One or whatever. It was super stressful. When I deconstructed and was no longer religious, it took about 3 or 5 years to stop thinking that others could read my mind.
"Were you fed any weird religious propaganda when you were a kid?" Yes, I was raised on it by an extremely evangelical family. This included the biblical literalism of young earth creationists.
I was raised as a Protestant by alcoholics, one of whom was a serial philanderer. They raised us by a combination of care, fear and neglect, but at least we had access to PBS and a variety of books.
It's always a fun game with these books: Will the nudity be covered by strategically placed animals, strategically placed plants, or strategically placed hair?
doesn't strategically placed X to cover nudity go against the whole point of the stupid Adam and Eve anyway? if being naked was only shameful cuz we have knowledge, then the picture book "hiding" the nudity from strategically placed stuff is an acknowledgement that nudity is inherently embarrassing even BEFORE they eat the forbidden fruit. why "hide their nakedness" pre eating the fruit?
I just think it would have been hilarious if emma "accidentally" was holding a copy of Paradise Lost by John Milton in the beginning and then was just like "oh shit wrong version"
My sister tried to get our 8 year old nephew into the whole God thing and bought him a children's bible. Lol he was reading the Noah's ark story closes the book, turns to his dad (who isn't a believer) and says ' I dont think this is appropriate for kids" 😂😂
@@istvansipos9940 lol well he is in the gifted program and helps his 12 yr old sister with her math homework so the comparison isnt completely off base 😂
I actually really love how Daniel Quinn interprets this story in Ishmael. His theory is that the story is very old and was told by the hunter gatherers of the fertile crescent as a cautionary tale about the spread of agriculture. By embracing agriculture man was no longer living his life at the mercy of God/nature, but saw himself as God and therfore superior to nature, because he was all of a sudden master of his food source. The story of Cain and Abel is the continuation of this story. Cain, who is a sedentary agriculturalist, kills his brother Abel, the nomad/hunter gatherer (many hunter gatherers did and still do herd animals in some sort of way, which is what this was probably referring to). The sad thing about the Bible is that it has become doctrine, when in fact these are stories of rich cultural and philosophical significance. They were set in a time where their existence makes sense and were used as a way of teaching people about sometimes complicated concepts. It's very sad when they are just considered on a surface level when they are often filled with old wisdoms that can help deal with life.
@@ArakkoaChronicles haha, that's brilliant! Although the reality was that agriculture would have been adopted by some tribes and they would have needed to constantly expand and therefore push neighbouring tribes away from their land, which we are still seeing today with surviving hunter gatherer societies. Their hunting and foraging grounds would have been cleared for plantations, most of the local fauna killed so they wouldn't eat the crops and the hunter gatherers would have had to join the agriculturalists (if they were welcome to) or left to starve or move to less hospitable grounds in order to survive.
@@acmulhern This reminded me of The Matrix, where Smith explains to Morpheus how humans are a virus that insists on spreading. Edit: Another fun take is that plants actually domesticated humans as much as we domesticated them.
shame is one of the most powerful levers of most if not all religions. shame of nudity, sin, even just shame for merely existing (we are born in sin). Thx god, great way to start my life.
I was luckily never exposed to these stories. I later found out my father had a hand in that. I was an adult before I realized my mother was religious.Neither explicitly gave their standpoint to us as a kids, which made it possible for us to make up our own mind. Being a genetics engineer, you might guess which way I went. ;)
@@dragonbane44 Ah, the "I don't really understand words" reasoning. You do know that the word genesis existed before Christianity right? And as a Dutch person I would hardly choose Catholicism as my fairy tale of choice. The words genetics and genesis might have the same origins, but neither have originally been associated with Christianity.
"Snakes will be hated by everyone!" Meanwhile me, sitting on the couch watching this video surrounded by 4 snakes. They're fantastic animals and pets! I love my noodle babies
I grew up really deeply Evangelical and I'm trying to give my 4 year old son a choice, so around Christmas time I tried telling him about baby Jesus. When I got to the angels part he told me "mommy, stop telling me fairytales" 😂 another time a relative was trying to invite him to church and he told them "you go listen to that nonsense, I'm gonna stay home." I guess we're doing alright
My mom had a few children’s bible stories laying around that she would sometimes read to my kids when they were little. Funny thing, though. My mom grew up Catholic, but was an atheist by the time she was a grandma. I think she thought they should have a choice. Spoiler: they chose atheism.
What is even funnier is that many Christians will tell you that children are a blessing. If you look at the story that you just told even though it didn't quite mention this in the book, when God told Adam and Eve to go forth be fruitful and multiply, he wasn't in the best of moods. He was in the middle of kicking them out of paradise. To me that just sounds like a curse. Kind of like and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
@Cassandra Tafoya Hopefully you'll let them know they're only stories and take an objective approach? Children's growing ability to reason is directly influenced by the quality of the teaching they receive. The ability to critically analyse and reason, is not an automatic development, which is evidenced by the sheer volume of deluded people out there.
@@Mysticblue1212 i never thought of that. it has the same vibes as my mother saying "i cant wait til you have children..." Maybe that why she has no grandkids.
@Cassandra Tafoya I agree. It's too much of an international issue to be ignorant about. Just so they know the difference between the myth and the reality.
I was raised Mormon. They have a set of "living Scripture" Book of Mormon cartoons that my parents had on VHS. They regularly put them on for us to watch. I do not think I could stomach watching them today.. any mormon media instantly makes me cringe... like I can feel the slimy fingers of indoctrination trying to worm their way back into my mind.
I like how Adam and Eve learned about good and evil, and first thing they realized was that God is about to hurt them and is probably the thing that radiates the most on their newfound evil-o-meter. So they try to hide. And then God turns around like a serial killer in a bad horror flick and asks where they're hiding.
As a kid, I remember asking my Mother what language Adam named the animals in because the names would be all different. I really wish I could remember how she answered that one.
The animals have been named in American. Because many of these nutters seem to somehow believe that North America is the centre of the world, Jesus visited there, Noah lived there, and lots of other really retarded stuff... a nation that pretty much didn't exist except for a few hundred years ago subverting mythical folk tales from Assyria/Babylon.
Oh man, the cardinal sin of telling your children about other languages before you tell them about the one and only God Almighty. Your mom is going to hell, sorry to say.
In my Catholic junior high school we had a meeting were they taught about babies and how precious they were. They showed us unborn fetusses Sp? And talked about how you shouldn’t harm them. I also remember that they sold necklaces with teeny tiny fetus feet. They never outwardly mentioned that you shouldn’t abort babies but it was implied. I only later remembered how fucked up that was too a bunch of 13-14y olds.
Here's a chapter in the Old Testament to look up. Numbers 5 verses 11 to 31. It's interesting how they so strongly disapprove of abortion, yet here is Yahweh instructing men on how to force their wives to have abortions if they think they have been unfaithful.
In Poland we watched the "documentary" "The silent scream" which is an anti-abortion movie. The movie apparently shows how abortion are made. They were showing an almost fully grown baby being ripped apart. Only few years later I found out that this movie was fake. We also watched "The Exorcisms of Emily Rose", although I never been brought up religious I was scared for years. It wasn't a private school and we watched both movies in a class which wasn't RE.
My children's Bible stories growing up explicitly specified (and illustrated) that God "put Adam to sleep" and took out a living rib and made eve. Terrified me.
If you look at the ancient texts and other similar creation myths, it is apparent that the 'rib' was not a rib in the ribcage. It was a euphemism for the penile bone that is present in most other primates and mammals, but not in humans. This myth is used to explain why humans don't have a penile bone.
(per my Jewish spouse) the tree generally has a very different interpretation in Judaism that makes way more sense than the Christian one. One of the most common ones is that the tree was him confirming that people had free will, unlike all his other creations, which would just obey his command not to eat it. There's also then no ongoing concept of this as original sin which all humans are burdened with
""""""""""""makes more sense"""""""""""" You still have the massive problem of God creating a test to confirm something that he should already know. That's not even getting into the massive changes between the pre- and post-fruit-eating world. Plus, if the test was for some reason necessary and successful, he could have just snapped his fingers, wiped the evidence of it from the timeline and carried on a fruitless world safe in the knowledge that we did have free will and we would never know about the test. The whole premise is utter silliness.
@@silentcaay G-d tests people all the time. As for the other points, the explanation is usually that the world we experience was the intended experience the whole time; the garden was just the testing sandbox Jews across all movements are also generally pretty willing to read things like this metaphorically, so the objections you raise aren't as relevant as they are to Christian fundamentalists
@@silentcaay I asked/complained to Yahweh the same thing or why He would create something He knew ultimately would fail, and I received an answer (although this might go right over your head because you’ll find another excuse to hate Him) the answer I got was Romans 8:18 I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us.. It comes down to this life and how short it is, and how long eternity is, right now your tiny brain cannot comprehend eternity, but once our physical body dies, you will understand, and you will regret not knowing Yeshua as Savior and Lord… these questions Emma has there are answers to them.. seek and you will find
@@tristanholderness4223 Yeah, God testing people for any reason is utter silliness and a great reason to dismiss religious texts as myths. People ages ago didn't understand the concept of omniscience when they wrote about it but a god would have which just proves that these religious texts were fantasies created by people and not the word of any omniscient god.
@@silentcaay many religious Jews would agree with you that scripture was a work written by people and not the word of an omniscient creator! I'm not religious myself (I don't have any sense of the transcendent), but when I see comments and replies like yours, it really reminds me how much online atheism take specific denominations fo Christianity's attitudes towards religion, scripture, and the world as general to religion as whole, when it doesn't even apply to all of Christianity, all the Abrahamic faiths, or let alone all religions worldwide
So, Adam and Eve didn’t realize that there was shame in being naked until they ate the fruit, so even before they ate the fruit they were doing something bad by being naked? Am I misunderstanding?
Before eating the fruit, they were amoral animals - no awareness of right or wrong. Sin is not charged against anyone who has no knowledge of right or wrong. After eating the fruit they gained a sense of morality - good and bad. The tree symbolizes moral consciousness. Maybe the story is saying that Adam and Eve had a choice - abstain from the tree and live forever in blissful moral ignorance, unable to be accountable for sin; or eat of the tree and gain moral consciousness with the result that they now become accountable for sin with the penalty of death. I think the narrative is meant to explain how humans came to have a sense of morality or "knowledge of good and bad". The same narrative also explains the reason humans die, have painful childbirth, have patriarchal societies, why snakes don't have legs, etc. Much of Genesis is about explaining the origins of things. The Christian interpretation about the snake being the devil or being controlled by the devil is a clumsily imposed eisegesis that is foreign to what the Genesis account says. Genesis gives no hint of a suggestion of any malevolent spirit being involved. It even says the serpent was the most crafty of all the animals that Yahweh made and uses that as the explanation for the serpent's actions. Seems pretty obvious from this that the serpent was acting on its own volition according to its own character.
@@caribbeanman3379 The biblical god is the most immoral invention of primitive, barbaric men in history. That god is a psychopath who loves serial mass murder, genocide, racism, slavery, hates women, is ok with child rape, loves animal and human sacrifice, and on and on. Christians DONT read the Bible. I’ve never known one honest Christian.
I always felt that being naked in of itself isn't really the "bad" thing they were doing, but rather that when they became more self aware they began to view it as such despite God having created them that way.
@@VenathTehN3RD Being naked is definitely portrayed as being bad. Remember, the account says their eyes were opened and they came to know good and bad and it is only _after_ their eyes were opened and they came to have this knowledge that they had an aversion to being naked. It is clear and obvious from this that being naked is being portrayed as wrong or bad. The account is giving us the origin of aversion to nakedness - or how humans came to know that nudity was bad.
@@VenathTehN3RD Why do Christians freak out about genitals? If their god created them why are they so bad to the point they must be hidden? The primitive, barbaric writers of the Bible needed a lot of therapy to get over their sick sexual hangups. They were also obsessed with foreskins and virginity. But they only cared about a female’s virginity. That’s just one more example of their misogyny. Women were property in the Bible. If a little girl was raped the rapist wasn’t punished. He just had to pay the father of the victim 30 shekels. Then the rape victim was forced to spend the rest of her life with the rapist. Why don’t christians follow that law? Christians just cherry-pick the parts of the Bible that are most convenient to them. There are 613 of god’s laws. The typical Christian might follow 3-4 of them. They disregard all the rest. But they say every word in the Bible is god’s word but none of them follow his supposed ‘word’. Christianity is a synonym with hypocrisy and dishonest. No honest person can be a Christian.
Now it's not only the drawing style that reminds me of the children's book "Brenda's beaver needs a barber". So hilarious seeing people reading it on camera almost wetting themselves with laughter...
4:18 God: “It’s the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.” Adam and Eve: “Oh, what’s evil?” God: “Darn…” That was Gods “Don’t tell him your name, Pike” moment right there.
The first time I ever read the Adam and Eve story it was at college, for my Folklore and Fantasy class (yes, I loved my teacher). We were going over creation myths and seeing Genesis for the first time it was appalling just how much wrong there was immediately. The order of everything was wrong, but that wasn't really surprising. What was surprising was stuff like - in the version I read - no one told Eve eating from the tree was against the rules. God didn't tell her, Adam didn't bring her up to speed - she was never told it wasn't okay. How can you punish someone for that? The thing about Genesis that stuck with me was how afraid god seemed to be of people becoming like him. It's a backhanded accidental admission that he's a terrible guy in his own story.
Well, they love to punish people for doing something they can't know is "wrong" in this book, like eating a fruit or making a golden calf. Moses killed 3000 people for breaking one of the ten commandments when he hadn't yet brought back the tablets...
To be fair, original sin is not a Jewish idea and didn't exist in Christianity for hundreds of years, either. Genesis is more about humanity moving from hunter gatherers to farmers. This is a theme through Genesis, not just the first few chapters about Adam and Eve.
The original book of Adam and Eve is absolutely wild. I heard all the watered down stories as a kid but when I actually read them as an adult I was like !?!?!? One thing that stood out to me (besides the cliff jumping part and the altar sacrifice part) was the way that Eve is blamed in modern Christianity for everything. But in the actual text, Adam and Eve mirror everything the other does. If Adam falls on his face to throw a tantrum, Eve immediately does it too, and so on. They are practically interchangeable as people. It could have just as easily been Adam who ate the forbidden fruit, it just so happens that the serpent got to Eve first. Adam and Eve both showed equal levels of harmless childlike disobedience leading up to that, and either would have done the same thing, especially with the lack of true knowledge of good and evil.
This will be fun! In 2020 my grandma handed me a flyer with the headline "What God has to do with Corona!" and after reading it, I thought "Oh boy, what a shit show!" xD
A little bit of theology from a former evangelical: In Genesis, A told E that she shouldn't eat from the tree or even touch it. Sounds like lying is OK if you don't know it's a bad thing to do. E eats the fruit, gives it to A, he eats, and THEN the whole "knowledge of good and evil" thing kicks in. In Romans, Paul blames A and not E for the fall for that reason. Later, though, he tells women to shut up in church because they're too easily deceived, so Paul gets no props for being a feminist. Bottom line: In blaming E in this story, this "harmless" little book is passing on the patriarchal BS that women are the cause of all men's problems. Sure the artwork is cute, but that just helps the indoctrination along. I'd give it a 0/10.
if anyone ever refers to us as their "special naked friends" we should critically examine what where the series of events that lead to meeting these people and assess what we will do next.
That story really makes me think - normally when an older person wants young, impressionable naked friends hanging around all the time at their beck and call, people see some serious red flags in that situation. Especially when the older person gets offended when the young, impressionable naked friends decide they don't want to be naked around that older person anymore...
@@vonrosphe3098 Well apparently god made us in his image that must count for something. Also its not like we can communicate profound levels with dogs, etc.
@@arno7163 What is in his image. Look like him or look like he wants us to look. All animals could look like he/she/it images. And if god is on such a higher level we can also not communicate with him on the same level as we do with other humans.
@@vonrosphe3098 Hey its your magic book that says "create in his own image" its either he made us in his image or as you said "or look like he wants us to look". So with that either god is a liar or your fantasy book lied
Got introduced to your channel from seeing your segment on SciManDan and have been binging your videos. Keep turning out the content, especially the stuff on religion. Your witty and charming personality really are such a perfect compliment to this kind of topic. You definitely got a sub out of me... Especially after your Paul and Morgan video on WandaVision. LMAO Absolutely priceless.
I have also always been mystified as to why God created the tree of knowledge and then told them not to eat from it, to which end about 20 years I wrote a story about it. Basically, while God is busy creating Hell, a bunch of bored angels get the serpent to tempt Eve by promising him legs, but Adam and Eve actually eat the fruit of the Tree of Stupidity by mistake. Certainly made more sense to me.
I didn't become an atheist until I chose to become a Sunday school teacher at 16. *(Because I didn't want to have to sit and listen to the adult sermon.)* Fortunately.. I had to read the bible to become one. And not rely on the nice children's books that I'd only read.. BIG MISTAKE on there part.. D'oh !!
@Clyde Barrow Here's the thing, if one is raised being taught that the Bible is "the infallible word of God", yes, one is going to loose faith in God if the Bible is shown to have errors. Of course, I wasn't raised that way, and I see no reason whatsoever to believe in a God. Is there some demonstrable evidence I'm missing?
When you read the Bible from the beginning, and not just cherry-picked snippets, you very quickly arrive at one of two possibilities: 1. God is an evil dude that you don't want anything to do with, or, more likely, 2. this whole book is bunk.
@@alexdevisscher6784 Funny you should say that. The first time I read the Bible in it's entirety, I had the first response. I still had some small belief, but felt that God would simply be awful, the second and third time's I read it, I had already become convinced that it was nothing but a story.
@Clyde Barrow Apparently "reading the bible" is the #1 reason why Christians become atheists. I was one of them, brought up on weekly church services. I'll admit that I was leaning towards atheism before I decided to read the bible in its entirety, hoping I'd find wisdom in it that would reinforce my faith. I found very little wisdom. I found that the bible is horrific in its morality, I discovered how irrational the majority of its lessons are if you apply a modicum of thought to them. I found that it was impossible to believe in god - and that even if he was real then he's not worthy of worship. I found it primitive, constantly contradicted by science - and by itself. I thought that the lessons taught in the gospels were probably centuries ahead of their time, when Rome ran the western world, but somewhat backward and primative twenty centuries later. In short, the bible is utterly irrelevant to modern living, it's god is nothing more than a myth, and it's later authors (ie Paul) are savvy religious politicians pushing an agenda. That was the final push toward atheism. I'm sure that many others have a similar experience. When reading it I also came to appreciate that the people at my church were lovely, that they were a progressive bunch. No homophobia, no creationists, we had female reverands decades ago. They had their hearts in the right place, were generally private in their own beliefs, and were a big part of my upbringing and current moral code. Sadly, I've also learned that they are probably in a minority. When I see how vicious and self-righteous many Christians are - particularly evangelists - and how political they are, how they seek to impose their beliefs on the rest of us, and that damage their ilk have done to the world throughout history, I've come to the conclusion that hostility towards their attitude is a reasonable course.
Yeah, they decided to avoid the absurdity of having Adam name all the animals in one day, which is pretty much unavoidable if you want to reconcile the two versions of the creation story in Genesis. One version has Adam being created, naming all the animals, and going to sleep before Eve is made. The other states that they were both made on the same day. In one version you can imagine Adam contemplating and enjoying all of God's creation as he lovingly chooses names for all these creatures. In the other, he's frantically trying to come up with names and belting them out like an auctioneer while god presumably threatens him with lightning bolts. "FASTER! AND STOP CRYING!" (That last bit is artistic license. Not biblically sourced.)
See, I've always read the verses as human was made, was called Adam but is essentially non-binary, then we arr separated later on with the whole rib story. I then like to tease that non-binary gender is the more divine lol. Which does have historical credence when one looks at indigenous cultures. :);)
"One version has Adam being created, naming all the animals, and going to sleep before Eve is made." That has to be the correct version, because the other version is absolutely implausible. In the implausible version, Adam and Eve are created on the same day and Adam alone is giving the job of naming billions of animals. Then Eve says "What are you doing? You've been gone for ages. I asked you to take the trash out. No, no, no, that's not a duck! Obviously it's a waddler. You have absolutely no talent for this naming business. " See that's why Adam had to name all the animals before Eve was around.
i have never heard about adam naming the animals, nor adam and eve being created on the same day. The version i know is that god creates adam, then realize that it is not good for him being alone, so god puts him to sleep and creates eve from adam. And then the story goes on with the tree. Weird.
Hi Emma, just found your channel via MythVision. As a de-converted fundie (now agnostic) who was indoctrinated from birth, stuff like this is kinda cathartic to me. Love it ✌️
Unless you were a Born Again Child of God's Eternal Kingdom in Spirit and in Truth you didn't "Deconvert" from anything.. You just became what you always wanted to become.. When the Fairytale of Evolutionism became available, you JUMPED at the chance . Evolutionism is a poisonous lie for Atheists.. .
Aha, loved this. Kudos on recognising Lilith since folks don't like to talk about her on account of how she said 'eff off' when Adam tried to dominate her.
Lilith is great, depending on which part of the myths you look at. I see her as a female who took control of her sexuality and refused to be ashamed about it. Sent her sigil to a friend recently, actually.
Also, she's the serpent in that story as well, meaning not only did she tell both God and Adam to shove off but she even went back to help Eve free herself too. I am a witch that actually follows Lilith myself, I find the way she acts admirable.
What an entertaining read. I grew up pretty giga-christian, so this amusing reading of my childhood trauma is appreciated. The art style looks eerily similar to these books I had as a kid called "little fish books about jesus."
Fun fact: According to the account, god told Adam about the tree of the knowledge of good and evil before Eve was created. Therefore she wasn’t told directly about this dire warning. Maybe Adam mislead her?
Or maybe Adam didn't bother to tell her, thinking that the warning was only meant for him, or that God would have given it to her Himself if it were meant for her.
“It’s always about finding Jesus or finding God; Let God find you.” Is it bad that I can imagine someone saying the same line in a different tone as an actual tenant of their religious sect / cult?
Yeah. Its dumber than that. If you look hard enough (though, maybe not in a "modern" revisionist Bible, you find "god is in everyone's heart". This is on the scale of the lie that Jesus told about anyone with a grain of faith being able to perform greater miracles than even he did, in as much as it a) isn't true, since a lot of people end up leaving religion because they *never* found this imaginary being in the heart, and b) the only alternative explanations for this flaw is either 1) the Bible got this wrong, 2) =some people's religious theory= everyone is really lying and rejecting god, even though they claim not to be, or 3) =the Muslim version= god has intentionally chosen every single, and the vastly growing number of, atheist in the world to be among those that *cannot ever accept god*, because all the good people need people to hate and persecute, apparently...
This reminds me of the significantly less child friendly book I had when I was a kid. "My Book of Bible Stories". It was written for children but didn't leave out the nasty stuff. It was a much longer book that covered most of the significant stories from the Bible, like Cain killing Abel, the plagues of Egypt, the crucifixion of Jesus and that one time King Solomon ordered a baby to be cut in half.
To be fair Solomon never intended for the baby to be cut in half. It was merely a test to see which of the two women would be willing to give the baby up to save its life. On the other hand, in 2 Kings 2:23-24, God sends two she-bears to kill 42 children because they had called his prophet Elisha "bald head".
@@wizardsuth That's fair, but as far as the bible stories book goes, the illustration shows a soldier holding a baby upside-down with his sword raised. THAT is the choice they made for children to gaze at for the next 40+ years.
It's times like these that im reminded of Al Pacino's speech in Devil's Advocate. Delivered perfectly! If you haven't seen that movie, you're missing out, especially that speech. It's a damn good speech!
Ah, the story about "THIS TREE". God's Kinder Surprise Egg left alone on the counter. Quick reminder: God is All-Knownig, according to the story. As Admiral Ackbar would say: "Frolic in the surf and get drowned by the undertow." Oh, and It's a trap.
I was raised with a pretty religious set of grandparents on my father's side, they preached all the classic bs of "kindness and generosity, honesty" type then when I was ten I got into a bad accident and almost died, lost all my stuff including like my actual bed n shit. So their church raised money for me, money I never saw bc my grandma on that side pocketed it. She still claims she's a good christian. It was a month before my 11th birthday. We found out bc the pastor called us to check in and mentioned the money. Oop lol. Safe to say I'm a bit sus of christians now, I get it's not all of them but it's enough of em to scare me off. Her church had a bunch of super cool ones, she was a bad egg.
Actually, at 4:10 that version of God's speech is wrong, if I recall correctly in the real Bible god lies to Adam and Eve and tells them that if they eat the fruit they die. He doesn't say anything about that being the tree of knowledge. It's the snake (also created by God like everything else there) who tells them the truth, and of course not having the knowledge to discern good from evil, and knowing every creature in there, including themselves, was made by God, they listened to the snake.
Every time I hear the story of Adam and Eve, or the great flood... I think back to when I used to have an ant farm. As the being that provided them everything, I was their God in a way... But if just one of these little ants did something I didn't like, was that justification to punish or kill the entire colony? Well, no... But God would say yes. Every time apparently. I struggle to see the God described in the Bible as a good being, but more like the main villain...
Now imagine you knew the ant was going to do that very thing, causing you to wipe out the whole colony save for a few of them, yet you went ahead and created them anyway, then got pissed when they did exactly what you knew they would do. Yeah, that is how absurd the story is.
I was raised evangelical. I remember so many songs and Bible verses I had to remember and I attended 5 Day Club which is a week long summer/after school club where you learn and memorize Bible verses for prizes. And was in Awana - a similar kind of club but held in a church sorta like boy/Girl Scouts but super fundamentalist Christian. Videos like this are major nostalgia but then I remember how fucked up it all was lol
6:57- We know the "Adam and Eve" story so well.. in such detail, that we even know when Adam BLINKED HARD. How can anyone ever refute this obviously factual representation of our origin. Absolutely amazing.
I love it. At last, a book can infuriate religious people AND sane people at the same time. by the way, - Aaadaaam, do you really love meeee? - Eve, who the fukk should I love???!!
Not the book that infuriates me, it's the people who still believe the nonsense and especially those that would make laws and treat people differently because they don't believe in the same ancient fairy tale that they do.
This is brilliant! This is what happens when critical thinking is applied to biblical stories lol. I'm from South Africa, a country that is highly conservative. Where one can often feel excluded from society as an atheist. Emma you are remarkably witty and humorous at the same time. Tis a pleasure to watch your content. Keep up the excellent work!
And God punished The Serpent by turning it into one of the most beautiful and efficient predators on the planet that is loved by many people with taste and helps prevent the plagues and rodent infestions that God usually blesses humanity with. 10/10, would do it again XD
The serpent, healing totem in Greek myth and some Native American traditions (and in the frigging Bible come to think of it) and creator of the world in some Australian aborigine traditions.
@@simongiles9749 _Zamenis longissimus_ was commonly kept as a household pet by ancient Greeks and particularly Macedonians. Kept down the rats and mice. Grew to 2 metres long, very tolerant of handling, good temperament. Cats became popular later.
How come I never saw the whole 'special naked friends' thing before? Now I can take this story even less seriously... I'm pretty sure I had some of the other books in that series growing up, the cover art is definitely familiar. With the way its written, I'm also reminded of a big old chunky children's bible I grew up with. Though dubbed with the unimaginative name of 'The Children's Bible Storybook', it was one of the only attempts I'd seen of a children's bible putting all the stories together into a cohesive narrative, therefore referencing characters and events I'd never heard of before, including the Bayblonian exile, which was depicted as part of a long redemption narrative. The artwork was also absolutely gorgeous. Unfortunately, with only the briefest scriptural references included in the margins, this book eschews the actual words of the Bible in favour of its own spin on things. Satan is shoehorned in everywhere - not only in the Garden of Eden, where he's given a brief backstory of a fallen angel, but he's also depicted as being behind the actions of Cain, Haman, Herod, Judas, even Manasseh, the King of Judah who's only crime according to the Bible was allowing for religious pluralism. There are also things like stating that Cain's offer to god was borne out of jealousy and trying to curry favour, whereas in the Bible, the jealousy is only depicted as coming after God rejected his offer. Though I do want to commend the book for being unique in many respects, it's still a work of indoctrination, quite severely so.
The idea that Adam and Eve wouldn't even understand disobeying was bad hadn't occurred to me before watching this. Just adds another layer to how fucked up this story is. Also, I love your outfit
I went to a Catholic school so I had this stuff shoved down my throat constantly lol I was a pretty good kid -- I didn't get in trouble much -- and the few times I did it was because I would question my theology teacher and get yelled at for it. Things like "the Bible doesn't mention when Lucifer fell and Genesis is the first mention of "Lucifer" in snake form so when did Lucifer fall from Heaven?", "why does God hate witches?" (as the Bible mentions witches being evil and burning them a few times), "why should we follow a God that attacks children?" (there's a passage in the Bible about children making fun of a bald man so God sent an animal to attack/kill? (don't remember which) them in response), "the Bible never really gives any explanation on what Hell is so why should we be scared of it?", and, my personal favorite, "if Satan punishes bad guys, that would make him a good guy, so why is he a villain?" Suffice to say, I'm not Catholic
Weird propaganda as a kid? I went to Catholic school, church every morning, nuns in the classrooms, paddlings for not having your homework done. We’d be here for months! LoL!
Of course they hid after eating the fruit. They just learned everything to know about good and evil. They immediately realized God set them up (which is evil) and had all the power (which is also evil). I'm surprised they didn't jump the garden's gate and got the hell out of there. .
I dont understand the people who say you are ugly and unattractive.. 1 thats not even REMOTELY true but you are also hilarious, smart, strong willed, and respectful of even people who insult you which is very attractive traits. Whoever is your second half should consider themselves a very lucky person. :)
My favorite part is when the GENIUS keeps the snake, bans humans now that they know and place an Angel (the most pacific creature) guard with a flaming sword in a place where everything can burn.
3:30 At least Adam actually looks vaguely Jewish in this art. The flash cards I remember had, like, white people with crew cuts wearing well-tailored animal skins. Oh, and Eve *always* had perfectly styled rippling blonde hair and smooth armpits. I guess female body hair was just a part of "the curse" or whatever.
This young woman is incredible. Her personality and intellect is addictive lol. I just enjoy listening to her speak. She is just a decent human being which seems rare in the 21st century
I just thought of this while listening, but the story of Adam & Eve can be interpreted a different way. Like, it can technically be a tale of fighting oppression by gaining wisdom through challenging the expected
Yes, it's a perfectly reasonable change of the point of view, where God is the bad guy and the serpent the good guy. That also explains why Eve, after gaining the knowledge of right and wrong, convinced Adam to also eat the fruit: because Eve understood that was the right thing to do.
A bit late, but honestly, I feel like a *lot* of the Bible could be interpreted in a similar way. When you look at other classical religions, it actually seems really clear how the God of the Abrahamic faiths was an evolution of an entity (or amalgamation of entities) from earlier proto-Abrahamic faiths. Because when you take away all of the happy, fluffy talk that people in more recent millennia tend to use to prop it up as some kind of benevolent and loving father figure, and just look at what it actually *does*, God absolutely comes off just like other mythological figures such as Zeus, Ishtar, Odin, etc. They're something akin to a sapient force of nature, which makes sense given that gods in those tales often represented natural forces like storms or concepts like love. Sure, it might be fond of particular individuals and show more benevolent behavior to groups it favors, but in the end it's still going to hit humanity with all the gentleness and affection of a hurricane when the whim strikes it. And just like in many other earlier religions such as the ancient Greek divine cults, I think there's a good chance that pushing obedience and humility in the face of its power probably didn't start off as a result of it being some kind of omnibenevolent overseer who knows what's best, but because it's foolish to pridefully defy a god in the same way that it's foolish to pridefully stand in a tornado's path insisting that you can overcome it if you just be sure to plant your feet really firmly on the ground.
@@VenathTehN3RD why does a book, supposedly written by men who were inspired by god, that is supposed to lay down the rules for life so as to avoid eternal torture, require any kind of interpretation to be understood? No good god would do that to his creations. So either god is bad or as I believe, was made up long ago by ignorant people.
The thing I hate most about this story is how it demonizes knowledge, curiosity, and wanting to understand things.
It’s almost like the second you get access to knowledge outside your religion, or your beliefs are challenged and you’ll stop believing 😅
@@Scrimbly_guy You literally explained my relationship with my family in one sentence
It does not demonize knowledge. That is silly. Where do you get that in the story? It warns about getting wisdom (the knowledge of good and evil) by doing an end run around God - who is the source of all wisdom and understanding.
@@doncamp1150 that is demonizing knowledge.
@@doncamp1150 So in other words.. it demonizes curiosity and seeking knowledge. 😂
😂 “WHO TOLD YOU ABOUT CLOTHES!?!? YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO BE MY SPECIAL NAKED FRIENDS!” 😂 That’s gold!
I love being naked
"At least the animals are still naked..."
Cut to Yaweh 6000 years later staring in dismay at a chihuahua in a jumper.
LOL
It's a little too true.
😂😂😂😂
He'll be even more ferious if he ever sees a Rottweiler.
😄
"the serpent gave them consent" is easily my favourite sentence of the day.
But... but how??? Serpents can't speak. Makes Perfect Sense ©. 🐍
@@hollyhayes9640 Interestingly, Lilith was mentioned; in the versions of the story that Lilith is mentioned in, Lilith is the serpent. It's interesting largely cause this can lead to the interpretation that Lilith freed herself, then went back to also free Eve, which kinda moves things to the immediate narrative that God is evil and freed people know that.
'The serpent did nothing wrong!'
I think Adam was listening to his own snake! Lol
@@hollyhayes9640 It drew the message in the soil on the ground! After all, snakes are famously eloquent and literate.
“You know how I love indoctrinating children” Emma Thorn 2022.
I expect certain creationists to be taking you out of context in no time.
hey, indoctrination is neutral. let em try XD
Evangelicals be like
"See, this Satan worshipping gay-agenda pushing atheist admits to corrupting our children. Please won't someone think of the children!"
Satire as a concept seems to elude them, or be seen as blasphemy if picked up on.
Young and intelligent despite the history and reach of ignorant religion. This lady gives me hope that humanity will prevail. Bravo to her and associates.
Imagine a parent telling a 4 year old not to touch the cookies in a jar while placing it well within that child's reach and then go into hiding just waiting to pounce on the child the minute that jar gets touched! That is some seriously abusive parenting but it's OK if some fictional god does it!
And the snake is the slightly older brother,...
and then both the kids plus all of their friends get sent to jail for it..
I'm pretty sure Adam and Eve weren't four. A more accurate comparaison is imagine He gives access to an entire candy shop, but ask you not to eat the cake.
@@Megaspinosaurusrex They where incapable of differentiating between good/evil that is the equivalent of a child 4 or younger. Physically, they might have been older, but mentally they were 4 or younger, at least in regards to tell good from bad.
Have you heard of To Train Up a Child?
I use to really piss off my yeshiva teachers by asking, “if the tree is called the Tree of Knowledge, why didn’t got want them to eat the fruit? Did he want them to be ignorant?” Really got under their skin, and a question teachers are not equipped to answer from a 9-year-old.
Yes, that is the morale of the story: don't search knowledge, just obey without questioning.
It shouldn’t be a difficult question to answer. Ignorance is bliss and while knowledge is a good thing, it can also make you less happy. The story is about how knowledge is power and humans gained a lot more power than any other species on the planet, and since they gained that power before they were ready for it (power without the necessary wisdom) they didn’t wield that power responsibly. It’s a story about why humans in certain cultures have an exploitative relationship to other species and he planet as a whole. We would have stayed in the “garden” if we gained wisdom before we gained power, but we gained power first and didn’t understand that power comes with responsibility. And now we can’t go back because giving up knowledge would also be a bad thing. We just have to continue forward and try to gain wisdom/responsibility and restore the garden ourselves.
It’s a perfectly good story to describe that aspect of human identity and why we seem to be in conflict with the world more than any other species. And I’m pretty sure anyone with a little bit of knowledge of human history and how literary analysis and myth interpretation works could have explained it to a kid. That person was either a young earth creationist or just not thinking very clearly if they couldn’t come up with ANY idea about what this story means in relation to knowledge being portrayed as ‘bad’. It’s not that ignorance is good, it’s just that knowledge is power and power corrupts if you’re not careful.
@@emmanarotzky6565 No, that isn't what the story is about. You're just making up an explanation that you like. The entire lesson the bible is telling is that ignorance is the only way to live. The Tree of Knowledge is bad. Heaven is eternal worship while not remembering your human life. It's better to toil and die broke or even enslaved than to cause any waves or think about how bad your life is. The idea that blind faith is the only way to worship their god and that you can't know it exists or else your worship would be pointless.
The entire point of Christianity is that the stupid masses need to be told a fairy tale to keep them in line. You pretending that isn't the case won't change that.
Clever 9 year old...
Ignorance is bliss ...
... those who fleece the ignorant.
When I was five years old, my mother thought it was good for my education to learn something about religion. She bought a children's version of the bible and started reading it aloud for me. Once she got to the story of Kain and Abel, which is still pretty much near the start of the book, I got really upset. That was not a nice story. The fairy tales I had been read before may have had scary moments, but at least they always had a happy ending. The story of Kain and Abel, certainly did not have a happy ending and that made me really upset, which was a horrible way to start the night.
I asked my mother to put that book away and never read from it again, which she did.
That was my introduction to religion. It was brief, it was unpleasant and I have never felt the slightest appeal to it. I simply have no talent for religion.
Nobody told you about gentle Jesus?
Or about the God who created you ... along with spiders, snakes, stinging nettles, Putin, Hitler, hemlock ... and ignorance, and things imaginary that don't really go PLOP in the night but can be (and are) milked/fleeced to vanishing point by the unscrupulous?
I do remember Sunday School, but they weren't just cherry-picking certain verses, they had planted a whole alternative orchard. Much later when I DID study the Bible - the WHOLE Bible, I could certainly see how it needed to be sanitized so it won't scare kids to death. I think the Bible is fascinating, and a great deal of it is myth, but seeing it as myth doesn't mean to dismiss it. Myth is tremendously meaningful in that it's illustrative of the human condition and has a lot of cultural relevance. But not many of us take the Greek gods literally, so word-for-word Biblical belief puzzles me. I knew a scholar who said, "I take the Bible seriously, not literally," and that makes sense to me. Hell, I love Jesus, I think his teachings/sayings (probably composites of several different prophets) are moving and meaningful to me. But how can you take four different versions of Jesus literally? If it's mythology, it serves up rich examples of how complicated humans are. Myth can mean "this didn't happen", but it can also mean "this kind of thing happens all the time".
It's all about WP. (WP? Yep! Wealth & Power, nothing else.)
Battles are won by "whoever gets there the firstest with the mostest" ... and it's exactly the same with religions. (Note my casual use of the plural there, religions); and here's the fun bit-
-they are all of them the unique (it means the one-and-only) word of God. Gods. All of them. Each, and every. And there are many, their names are legion (which means oodles of, as in lots, plenty of).
"She rushed over to Adam"
I like how they frame this as Eve realizing she's sinned, then sprinting over to Adam to trick him into it. The Bible literally says he was standing right there when she ate it
Now I can just imagine Eve being a few hundred meters away from Adam and then running towards him like a fricking Olympic sprinter
@@VibingMeike the apple temporarily granted her the speed of a thousand storms and she zoomed over to Adam followed by a crack of thunder
that's how I learned it too 😭 when I read the Bible I was very confused lol
@@4rtiphi5hal19 Adam just stood there unperturbed by the sight of a naked Eve zooming towards him with a thousand storm and crack of thunder trailing in her wake swallowing and churning everything in their path.
@Christa Simon Well bananas in the wild do have seeds. Did god create artificially bred GMO bananas? that'd be cool
"Learn your Bible" - a great message for all Christians! I think they would be surprised/horrified.
There are actually two creation accounts in the bible. So though the book is a little Inaccurate, there is an account where man was made first and then followed the rest of creation.
"Just read the book". Yah, I did. Three times. cover-to-cover. It was the nail in the coffin for my belief.
@@inyobill I only read it the once, since it's so fucking boring, but that was enough for me. I read it to reinforce my faith and it ended up shattering it. That seems to be the case for most atheists who were raised Christian, though.
I ended up looking into the Lilith story and holy shit, apparently she was banished from the garden to hell because she did not "obey and submit" to Adam. That's fucked up.
Did you read the part where God sends three angels to bully her into submitting to the husband which she didn't choose?
@@AndrewJohnson-oy8oj No shot, that's absolutely insane.
Hail the true holy mother lilith
Imagine if Adam assaulted her...I think it's possible
Lilith - the original feminist. The bible itself shows us how just daring to consider herself equal to Adam made god Furious. I love reminding people of her existence when they use the whole "Eve came from a rib therefore belongs to Adam and women are subservient" fallacy.
But becoming the mother of all demons is much more badass and certainly a better origin story for humans not being the product of incest. (The story of Adam and Eve without Lilith in the picture should mean true Christians and the god they worship approve of incest BTW, fun little fact that they seem to forget.)
A story where a man made from dirt and a woman made from bone get kicked out of paradise because a talking snake convinces then to eat magical fruit.
Sounds legit
Well it's not a snake per say, it was a serpent, a half man half dinosaur perhaps?
@@visaman The story never mentions what the Serpent looked like before, just that it would have to crawl around after the punishment. Maybe it always looked like a snake but had a sweet hoverboard?
the "snake" was a serpent (dragon, or "dinosaur" as you know them). There was nothing "magical" about the fruit. Try not to be so ignorant
The snake may have been baby Jesus in a Halloween costume!
@@shaunsteele8244 uhm... tell me you're slow without telling me you're slow
Luckily I was asked to leave Sunday school as a little kid, I seemingly asked too many questions that they couldn't answer to my satisfaction. I think my father was secretly very proud. Plus if they can't handle the dissent of a primary school child it's pretty obvious they have no proof.
In one of the last pictures of the book, the angel with the flaming sword. He was wearing clothes too; ones a lot better than the ones God made for Adam & Eve!? Had the angel sinned? Why did it need clothes? Did God wear clothes?
I went to a Catholic highschool and at a parent teacher conference the nun asked my mom if she knew what I had asked her. my mom's said "I can only imagine" follow by the nun saying that I asked " how do we know the bible wasn't just a book someone wrote for controlling people?" my mom asked, "so what did you tell him?" the nun wasn't impressed
"God" didn't need clothes, because "He" never got cold, and didn't have any privates that needed to be covered up. (⁉️🙏)
@@hollyhayes9640 So does that make God a Ken doll?
@@BH-fi1sb Soooooo was your mom proud of you? Did your mom tell your dad? What did he say? Also what you said about the bible is incredible and so funny and true
Pretty sure God is nude.
I was brought up Catholic and for way too long thought the forbidden fruit was a pineapple because it was described to me as "a special apple"
So pineapple pizza...
Too many good quotes from Emma in this video “It’s always about finding Jesus, about finding God. Let God find you, pick a good hiding spot and see if he comes!” 😂
“You’re supposed to be my special naked friends” made me spit coffee 😹😹😹
@@siobhanmercer9424 yes. I’m adding this to my permanent repertoire!
This is gold! 😂
@@siobhanmercer9424 And this is why Emma won't be invited to be a guest preacher at DAL
Kinky
The most likely reason for the discrepancies between this book and Genesis is that the author hadn't actually read the bible.
Or "the wrong Bible", to Quote hovind.
@Alexandria Essays I'm wondering when the sequel that covers the Book of Job will come out.
@@denverarnold6210 Probably after the one about Noah and the mass extinction event.
@@wizardsuth to be fair, that one probably does have it's own sanitized storybook...
Also discrepancies between the "six day story" and the "garden story." one of many places where the bible contradicts the bible.
Many years ago I was round a Catholic friends house when I noticed a small book on his desk. It was a picture book on science meant for Catholic schoolchildren, I opened it and saw a picture representing an atom. Alongside it there was text which posed this question, "protons all have the same electical charge so why doesn`t the nucleous fly apart". The answer "Gods love". I showed this to my friend and told him about the strong nuclear force, something of which he knew nothing about.
Takes me back to primary school.
I went to the US for a wedding a few years ago, I was newly divorced and went to church with my friend (she’s a believer) the dude was preaching about how those who divorce burn in hell. Then after we were having coffee and cake, he came up to have a chat knowing I was from the UK, asked what religion I was, told him I was raised in the C of E for which he tried to say that was the UK equivalent of his religion. I get a real kick out of saying that C of E was created by Henry VIII so he could get divorced. If that doesn’t prove how bollocks this stuff is, then I guess I’m gonna burn in hell 🤣🤣
Technically Henry VIII didn't divorce anyone what really happened is he got his clergy to find him reasons as to why his marriage to Catherine of Aragon wasn't valid that is to have it annulled. The Pope disagreed hence the split with the Catholic Church. Anne was beheaded not divorced, Jane died in child birth.
The marriage to Anne of Cleves was never consummated so was not a real marriage. Catherine Howard was executed and the last Catherine Parr was his wife till Henry died.
That means Henry only legally had 4 wives by Henry reckoning or 2 Catherine of Aragon and Catherine Parr by the Catholic Church.
@@mattm8870 Technically you are both correct as The Church of England was formed when Henry VIII refused to acknowledge the Pope in Rome, as he would not allow him to remarry, and declared himself the Head of Church in England
I guess you are going to burn in hell then if you think whether some pastor likes divorce or not is what determines your stance on the existence of God. It's bizarre how many atheists with their superior attitudes end up having completely irrelevant reasons for their unbelief, even as they mock believers. They don't believe in God because they don't like something they heard a preacher say or they don't like a verse in the Bible. Somehow they feel they can determine the metaphysical truths of the universe by whether or not they have an emotional reaction to a Bible verse about gay people. And they consider themselves rational. It's ludicrous.
I'm not saying the Bible is true here. I'm saying that there are a lot of atheists out there with silly reasons for believing it's not.
He doesn't have any authority to condemn you to hell. Is he the one who is going to make that decision or God?. What about Jesus's forgiveness? Don't worry God won't let you suffer hell if you don't want to. By you listening to him & not Jesus's teaching on forgiveness gives one the impression that you misread something somewhere.
@@nelsonclub7722 Excellent Q! Make sure u get2heaven so u can find out!
I was told mermaids were real. My grandma had one of those weird mummified Ripley's Believe It Or Not fish people (in reality it's the top half of a monkey and the bottom half of a fish) and was convinced it was a mermaid. It tied heavily into her evangelical Revelation obsession in all sorts of weird and contrived ways. She thought the thing was a sign of demons entering the world and that God's Wrath was at hand. She also claimed thst I was the Chosen One, and said she had dreams of me saving the world by joining the airforce and bombing God's enemies... did I mention she was racist too? She was and used religion to justify. She used the Mormon ideas of how peoples skin color worked. I ended up joining the army for water purification but then got out. Now I'm a lab technician. It took me YEARS to get all the religious programming out of me.
She said we had a dragon guarding our backyard, Satan was making a portal in our old rusty fridge.... so many stories like this. And what sucked in hindsight is I believed her because she was an adult who I thought had my best interests at heart.
I have a friend that used to believe these same type things. I used to take her to her appointments at the mental health department where I was being treated for depression. My friend has schizo-affective disorder and she used to see demons and entry portals where they traveled from spirit world and the physical world.
Sorry, my babies interrupted me.
She said the demons would enter her body and breed worms that would crawl under her skin. There were times she would try to dig these demon worms out of her arms.
This doesn't happen anymore since she has stayed on her medication for many years now. It was more difficult in her early 20s to watch her get worse and worse not knowing what was going on.
I was still a "believer" at the time, and we tried to go to several different churches around here.
This was at a time I started to seriously question my faith and what I was brought up in.
One of the many things that got me to question my faith was trying to find a good church for my friend. Every church we went to though, she would have a "miraculous" healing of her "demons" and then she would make a membership pledge and stop taking her meds out of "faith". Everytime she would end up in the hospital and mental hospital after trying to get the "demon worms" out of her arms. She would lose apartment after apartment because she would have no money to pay rent. Most of her money would go to "faith pledges" and "miracle healings" and she would be homeless living in the women's shelter time after time.
No miracles ever happened, only after finding the right meds and a few years of real therapy has she come through. It was a long and tedious journey for her, not a instant miracle by the magic sky daddy. Science helped her come through but she won't tell you that. She is still a firm believer in God, and we did find a church that accepted her as schizo. They are better than most churches around here, and they don't tell her to stop taking her meds.
I'm sure my disbelief and many life life changes in the past 10years now has pulled us apart and we're not as close as we used to be.
I still think of her and all she struggled with.
Sometimes I think people who have beliefs like that have some kind of untreated mental illness, and feel for them and hope they get real help.
That sounds like some serious mental illness going unchecked
I can't imagine telling a kid "you're going to save the world". The crushing weight of that kind of responsibility for something that was nonsense must've been terrifying
@@jurassicsmackdown6359 It was. I felt like everyone was constantly watching me, and that I was a failure. Because of religious stuff, I also got it in my mind that everyone could read thoughts, and I was the only person who couldn't. So whenever someone gave me a weird look, I assumed it was because they read my mind and saw I wasn't worried about the end of the world and so they were judging me. And I'd feel guilty and start thinking about how I was supposed to be this Chosen One or whatever. It was super stressful.
When I deconstructed and was no longer religious, it took about 3 or 5 years to stop thinking that others could read my mind.
Hi Emma please do more of these ,laughed my nuts off really made my day.
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"Were you fed any weird religious propaganda when you were a kid?" Yes, I was raised on it by an extremely evangelical family. This included the biblical literalism of young earth creationists.
I was raised as a Protestant by alcoholics, one of whom was a serial philanderer. They raised us by a combination of care, fear and neglect, but at least we had access to PBS and a variety of books.
Same.
Indoctrination survivor high-five!
I was fed weird, stupid religious propaganda too, it was called evolutionism. Wasted ten years of my life believing in that bullshit.
@@slevinchannel7589 sounds like you hate that they say the truth about evolution’s lies and stupidity
It's always a fun game with these books: Will the nudity be covered by strategically placed animals, strategically placed plants, or strategically placed hair?
Yeah, kinda reminds me of those scenes in Austin Powers. Funny stuff
@@cthulwho602 Or The Benny Hill Show.
doesn't strategically placed X to cover nudity go against the whole point of the stupid Adam and Eve anyway? if being naked was only shameful cuz we have knowledge, then the picture book "hiding" the nudity from strategically placed stuff is an acknowledgement that nudity is inherently embarrassing even BEFORE they eat the forbidden fruit. why "hide their nakedness" pre eating the fruit?
I just think it would have been hilarious if emma "accidentally" was holding a copy of Paradise Lost by John Milton in the beginning and then was just like "oh shit wrong version"
My sister tried to get our 8 year old nephew into the whole God thing and bought him a children's bible. Lol he was reading the Noah's ark story closes the book, turns to his dad (who isn't a believer) and says ' I dont think this is appropriate for kids" 😂😂
Sister is taking liberties, it seems to me, but at least you seem happy enough. :)
When the 8 year old is smarter than the adult. 😌😎
I mean this in the best way possible:
the young man sounds like the young Sheldon Cooper
@@rogerkearns8094 my brother wasnt bothered by it and she didnt push the issue after so it's all good :;).
@@istvansipos9940 lol well he is in the gifted program and helps his 12 yr old sister with her math homework so the comparison isnt completely off base 😂
I actually really love how Daniel Quinn interprets this story in Ishmael. His theory is that the story is very old and was told by the hunter gatherers of the fertile crescent as a cautionary tale about the spread of agriculture. By embracing agriculture man was no longer living his life at the mercy of God/nature, but saw himself as God and therfore superior to nature, because he was all of a sudden master of his food source.
The story of Cain and Abel is the continuation of this story. Cain, who is a sedentary agriculturalist, kills his brother Abel, the nomad/hunter gatherer (many hunter gatherers did and still do herd animals in some sort of way, which is what this was probably referring to).
The sad thing about the Bible is that it has become doctrine, when in fact these are stories of rich cultural and philosophical significance. They were set in a time where their existence makes sense and were used as a way of teaching people about sometimes complicated concepts. It's very sad when they are just considered on a surface level when they are often filled with old wisdoms that can help deal with life.
So you're saying this is the oldest example of boomers afraid of those newfangled toys kids these days are playing with?
@@ArakkoaChronicles That is a hilarious take, and that's going into my list of neat things to tell people
@@ArakkoaChronicles haha, that's brilliant!
Although the reality was that agriculture would have been adopted by some tribes and they would have needed to constantly expand and therefore push neighbouring tribes away from their land, which we are still seeing today with surviving hunter gatherer societies. Their hunting and foraging grounds would have been cleared for plantations, most of the local fauna killed so they wouldn't eat the crops and the hunter gatherers would have had to join the agriculturalists (if they were welcome to) or left to starve or move to less hospitable grounds in order to survive.
Nice take but it's very doubtful that the story can be *that* old.
@@acmulhern This reminded me of The Matrix, where Smith explains to Morpheus how humans are a virus that insists on spreading.
Edit: Another fun take is that plants actually domesticated humans as much as we domesticated them.
shame is one of the most powerful levers of most if not all religions. shame of nudity, sin, even just shame for merely existing (we are born in sin). Thx god, great way to start my life.
I was luckily never exposed to these stories. I later found out my father had a hand in that. I was an adult before I realized my mother was religious.Neither explicitly gave their standpoint to us as a kids, which made it possible for us to make up our own mind. Being a genetics engineer, you might guess which way I went. ;)
You became Catholic? Because genetics sounds like Genesis...
@@aaronmatzkin7966 yeah and Scientology sounds like study of science
@@dragonbane44 Ah, the "I don't really understand words" reasoning. You do know that the word genesis existed before Christianity right? And as a Dutch person I would hardly choose Catholicism as my fairy tale of choice. The words genetics and genesis might have the same origins, but neither have originally been associated with Christianity.
@@dragonbane44 It seems I missed out on some other comments that are no longer there. That is a shame.
@@dinoklein The other comment said something along the lines of "Therapist sounds like The Rapist but they are two very different path".
"Snakes will be hated by everyone!"
Meanwhile me, sitting on the couch watching this video surrounded by 4 snakes.
They're fantastic animals and pets! I love my noodle babies
Snilds! (Snake children)
Perhaps snakes are offspring of the Flying Spaghetti Monster!
'Dum, dum duuuuum!'
Yeah, too many people think they are horrible, same misconception with sharks
You're welcome to my share of snakes, i hate danger noodles
The first time I held a snake it wax was such a shock as i had expected them to be slimey.
I grew up really deeply Evangelical and I'm trying to give my 4 year old son a choice, so around Christmas time I tried telling him about baby Jesus. When I got to the angels part he told me "mommy, stop telling me fairytales" 😂 another time a relative was trying to invite him to church and he told them "you go listen to that nonsense, I'm gonna stay home."
I guess we're doing alright
@@slevinchannel7589 yup. Definitely love and support all of those pro science guys you mentioned
A parent is supposed to raise them up in a Godly household, teach them the Bible and what it says, so that they can go out and be witnesses for Jesus.
@@ddawgproductionsXXL NEED MORE SLAVES AND WORKER BEES!
Yep you're doing a good job of indoctrinating him.
@@Assassin_of_Atheists You're bad at what you do. Stop while you still have some dignity. Bozo 😂
My mom had a few children’s bible stories laying around that she would sometimes read to my kids when they were little. Funny thing, though. My mom grew up Catholic, but was an atheist by the time she was a grandma. I think she thought they should have a choice. Spoiler: they chose atheism.
What is even funnier is that many Christians will tell you that children are a blessing. If you look at the story that you just told even though it didn't quite mention this in the book, when God told Adam and Eve to go forth be fruitful and multiply, he wasn't in the best of moods. He was in the middle of kicking them out of paradise. To me that just sounds like a curse. Kind of like and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
@Cassandra Tafoya Hopefully you'll let them know they're only stories and take an objective approach?
Children's growing ability to reason is directly influenced by the quality of the teaching they receive. The ability to critically analyse and reason, is not an automatic development, which is evidenced by the sheer volume of deluded people out there.
@@Mysticblue1212 i never thought of that. it has the same vibes as my mother saying "i cant wait til you have children..." Maybe that why she has no grandkids.
*They chose reality.*
@Cassandra Tafoya I agree. It's too much of an international issue to be ignorant about. Just so they know the difference between the myth and the reality.
I was raised Mormon. They have a set of "living Scripture" Book of Mormon cartoons that my parents had on VHS. They regularly put them on for us to watch. I do not think I could stomach watching them today.. any mormon media instantly makes me cringe... like I can feel the slimy fingers of indoctrination trying to worm their way back into my mind.
Gotta get them while they are young before they can think for themselves.
I like how Adam and Eve learned about good and evil, and first thing they realized was that God is about to hurt them and is probably the thing that radiates the most on their newfound evil-o-meter.
So they try to hide.
And then God turns around like a serial killer in a bad horror flick and asks where they're hiding.
I had those books as a kid, you should get more of them and do more episodes like this! it could turn into a series! 😊
I would love to see more!
@@slevinchannel7589 Holy shit, I wasn't aware of that cancer. ..."thanks". x.x They're in some next level denial over there.
As a kid, I remember asking my Mother what language Adam named the animals in because the names would be all different. I really wish I could remember how she answered that one.
Tower of Babel, baby!
The animals have been named in American. Because many of these nutters seem to somehow believe that North America is the centre of the world, Jesus visited there, Noah lived there, and lots of other really retarded stuff... a nation that pretty much didn't exist except for a few hundred years ago subverting mythical folk tales from Assyria/Babylon.
If God knew all things then He know the Fall of Man was a done deal.
My Catholic mother collapsed when I shared that with her.
Oh man, the cardinal sin of telling your children about other languages before you tell them about the one and only God Almighty. Your mom is going to hell, sorry to say.
Your voice is so calming it complements how good of a person you are
Big shout out for using "complement" correctly!
In my Catholic junior high school we had a meeting were they taught about babies and how precious they were. They showed us unborn fetusses Sp? And talked about how you shouldn’t harm them. I also remember that they sold necklaces with teeny tiny fetus feet. They never outwardly mentioned that you shouldn’t abort babies but it was implied. I only later remembered how fucked up that was too a bunch of 13-14y olds.
So I guess they wouldn't approve of the bible verse in genesis that literally says that life begins at first breath............
Here's a chapter in the Old Testament to look up.
Numbers 5 verses 11 to 31. It's interesting how they so strongly disapprove of abortion, yet here is Yahweh instructing men on how to force their wives to have abortions if they think they have been unfaithful.
OMG I totally forgot about the fetus feet necklaces!! Like what!?? 🥴
Wow.
“Don’t harm babies”
“Also, here’s a pendant of baby feet”
Dafuq? Like a good luck charm?? >.
In Poland we watched the "documentary" "The silent scream" which is an anti-abortion movie. The movie apparently shows how abortion are made. They were showing an almost fully grown baby being ripped apart. Only few years later I found out that this movie was fake. We also watched "The Exorcisms of Emily Rose", although I never been brought up religious I was scared for years. It wasn't a private school and we watched both movies in a class which wasn't RE.
My children's Bible stories growing up explicitly specified (and illustrated) that God "put Adam to sleep" and took out a living rib and made eve. Terrified me.
That’s probably better than just being pissed though
If you look at the ancient texts and other similar creation myths, it is apparent that the 'rib' was not a rib in the ribcage. It was a euphemism for the penile bone that is present in most other primates and mammals, but not in humans. This myth is used to explain why humans don't have a penile bone.
@@davelaneve2446that’s even worse.
@@davelaneve2446 Baloney
Claim: Everyone hates snakes. Factcheck: cobras are sacred in India.
(per my Jewish spouse) the tree generally has a very different interpretation in Judaism that makes way more sense than the Christian one. One of the most common ones is that the tree was him confirming that people had free will, unlike all his other creations, which would just obey his command not to eat it. There's also then no ongoing concept of this as original sin which all humans are burdened with
""""""""""""makes more sense"""""""""""" You still have the massive problem of God creating a test to confirm something that he should already know. That's not even getting into the massive changes between the pre- and post-fruit-eating world. Plus, if the test was for some reason necessary and successful, he could have just snapped his fingers, wiped the evidence of it from the timeline and carried on a fruitless world safe in the knowledge that we did have free will and we would never know about the test. The whole premise is utter silliness.
@@silentcaay G-d tests people all the time. As for the other points, the explanation is usually that the world we experience was the intended experience the whole time; the garden was just the testing sandbox
Jews across all movements are also generally pretty willing to read things like this metaphorically, so the objections you raise aren't as relevant as they are to Christian fundamentalists
@@silentcaay I asked/complained to Yahweh the same thing or why He would create something He knew ultimately would fail, and I received an answer (although this might go right over your head because you’ll find another excuse to hate Him) the answer I got was
Romans 8:18
I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us..
It comes down to this life and how short it is, and how long eternity is, right now your tiny brain cannot comprehend eternity, but once our physical body dies, you will understand, and you will regret not knowing Yeshua as Savior and Lord… these questions Emma has there are answers to them.. seek and you will find
@@tristanholderness4223 Yeah, God testing people for any reason is utter silliness and a great reason to dismiss religious texts as myths. People ages ago didn't understand the concept of omniscience when they wrote about it but a god would have which just proves that these religious texts were fantasies created by people and not the word of any omniscient god.
@@silentcaay many religious Jews would agree with you that scripture was a work written by people and not the word of an omniscient creator!
I'm not religious myself (I don't have any sense of the transcendent), but when I see comments and replies like yours, it really reminds me how much online atheism take specific denominations fo Christianity's attitudes towards religion, scripture, and the world as general to religion as whole, when it doesn't even apply to all of Christianity, all the Abrahamic faiths, or let alone all religions worldwide
"Look what you made me do!"- God and abusers everywhere
Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
You're a find. Arch and glamorous. I kept waiting for a direct look into the camera, sigh. Everyone is born an art director. Subscribing.
“Was I fed any weird religious propaganda when I was a kid?” Yes. Yes I was. All of it.
So, Adam and Eve didn’t realize that there was shame in being naked until they ate the fruit, so even before they ate the fruit they were doing something bad by being naked? Am I misunderstanding?
Before eating the fruit, they were amoral animals - no awareness of right or wrong. Sin is not charged against anyone who has no knowledge of right or wrong. After eating the fruit they gained a sense of morality - good and bad. The tree symbolizes moral consciousness. Maybe the story is saying that Adam and Eve had a choice - abstain from the tree and live forever in blissful moral ignorance, unable to be accountable for sin; or eat of the tree and gain moral consciousness with the result that they now become accountable for sin with the penalty of death. I think the narrative is meant to explain how humans came to have a sense of morality or "knowledge of good and bad". The same narrative also explains the reason humans die, have painful childbirth, have patriarchal societies, why snakes don't have legs, etc. Much of Genesis is about explaining the origins of things. The Christian interpretation about the snake being the devil or being controlled by the devil is a clumsily imposed eisegesis that is foreign to what the Genesis account says. Genesis gives no hint of a suggestion of any malevolent spirit being involved. It even says the serpent was the most crafty of all the animals that Yahweh made and uses that as the explanation for the serpent's actions. Seems pretty obvious from this that the serpent was acting on its own volition according to its own character.
@@caribbeanman3379 The biblical god is the most immoral invention of primitive, barbaric men in history. That god is a psychopath who loves serial mass murder, genocide, racism, slavery, hates women, is ok with child rape, loves animal and human sacrifice, and on and on. Christians DONT read the Bible. I’ve never known one honest Christian.
I always felt that being naked in of itself isn't really the "bad" thing they were doing, but rather that when they became more self aware they began to view it as such despite God having created them that way.
@@VenathTehN3RD Being naked is definitely portrayed as being bad. Remember, the account says their eyes were opened and they came to know good and bad and it is only _after_ their eyes were opened and they came to have this knowledge that they had an aversion to being naked. It is clear and obvious from this that being naked is being portrayed as wrong or bad. The account is giving us the origin of aversion to nakedness - or how humans came to know that nudity was bad.
@@VenathTehN3RD Why do Christians freak out about genitals? If their god created them why are they so bad to the point they must be hidden? The primitive, barbaric writers of the Bible needed a lot of therapy to get over their sick sexual hangups.
They were also obsessed with foreskins and virginity. But they only cared about a female’s virginity. That’s just one more example of their misogyny. Women were property in the Bible. If a little girl was raped the rapist wasn’t punished. He just had to pay the father of the victim 30 shekels. Then the rape victim was forced to spend the rest of her life with the rapist. Why don’t christians follow that law? Christians just cherry-pick the parts of the Bible that are most convenient to them. There are 613 of god’s laws. The typical Christian might follow 3-4 of them. They disregard all the rest. But they say every word in the Bible is god’s word but none of them follow his supposed ‘word’.
Christianity is a synonym with hypocrisy and dishonest. No honest person can be a Christian.
"nudity is just hidden behind the bush"
Now it's not only the drawing style that reminds me of the children's book "Brenda's beaver needs a barber".
So hilarious seeing people reading it on camera almost wetting themselves with laughter...
4:18 God: “It’s the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.”
Adam and Eve: “Oh, what’s evil?”
God: “Darn…”
That was Gods “Don’t tell him your name, Pike” moment right there.
How they were supposed to even know they were doing "bad" thing BEFORE they tasted that fruit?
The first time I ever read the Adam and Eve story it was at college, for my Folklore and Fantasy class (yes, I loved my teacher). We were going over creation myths and seeing Genesis for the first time it was appalling just how much wrong there was immediately. The order of everything was wrong, but that wasn't really surprising. What was surprising was stuff like - in the version I read - no one told Eve eating from the tree was against the rules. God didn't tell her, Adam didn't bring her up to speed - she was never told it wasn't okay. How can you punish someone for that? The thing about Genesis that stuck with me was how afraid god seemed to be of people becoming like him. It's a backhanded accidental admission that he's a terrible guy in his own story.
Well, they love to punish people for doing something they can't know is "wrong" in this book, like eating a fruit or making a golden calf.
Moses killed 3000 people for breaking one of the ten commandments when he hadn't yet brought back the tablets...
To be fair, original sin is not a Jewish idea and didn't exist in Christianity for hundreds of years, either. Genesis is more about humanity moving from hunter gatherers to farmers. This is a theme through Genesis, not just the first few chapters about Adam and Eve.
@@slevinchannel7589 while I agree they're bad, I do not think resorting to mass-reporting is very good...
Back to the original post here, I'd say something about not knowing good and evil, but I think Emma has gone over that plenty
The original book of Adam and Eve is absolutely wild. I heard all the watered down stories as a kid but when I actually read them as an adult I was like !?!?!?
One thing that stood out to me (besides the cliff jumping part and the altar sacrifice part) was the way that Eve is blamed in modern Christianity for everything. But in the actual text, Adam and Eve mirror everything the other does. If Adam falls on his face to throw a tantrum, Eve immediately does it too, and so on. They are practically interchangeable as people. It could have just as easily been Adam who ate the forbidden fruit, it just so happens that the serpent got to Eve first. Adam and Eve both showed equal levels of harmless childlike disobedience leading up to that, and either would have done the same thing, especially with the lack of true knowledge of good and evil.
I'd like to see the telling of this story where God turns to the serpent and just says "Danny, what the fuck, bro?"
Is anyone else loving this story time with Emma thing? Don't know why but it's working for me
This will be fun!
In 2020 my grandma handed me a flyer with the headline "What God has to do with Corona!" and after reading it, I thought "Oh boy, what a shit show!" xD
I've got a leaflet here from a local JW about how all the suffering right now isn't God's fault 😂
@@EmmaThorneVideos Hahaha, let me guess, it´s either the devil's fault or the fault of sinful people like us atheists? :D
I'm guessing God made sure that every bubble passed its fizzical.
And if you weren't alive in the 1980s that'll mean nothing to you!
That's just silly. God has nothing to do with Corona. Everyone knows God is a Heineken man!
great video, great artwork! I never knew the serpent lost its legs, and I never knew you had a gaming channel. The things you learn :-)
A little bit of theology from a former evangelical:
In Genesis, A told E that she shouldn't eat from the tree or even touch it. Sounds like lying is OK if you don't know it's a bad thing to do. E eats the fruit, gives it to A, he eats, and THEN the whole "knowledge of good and evil" thing kicks in. In Romans, Paul blames A and not E for the fall for that reason. Later, though, he tells women to shut up in church because they're too easily deceived, so Paul gets no props for being a feminist.
Bottom line: In blaming E in this story, this "harmless" little book is passing on the patriarchal BS that women are the cause of all men's problems. Sure the artwork is cute, but that just helps the indoctrination along. I'd give it a 0/10.
Emma's generic Christian voice is her Kent Hovind voice... that's great
if anyone ever refers to us as their "special naked friends" we should critically examine what where the series of events that lead to meeting these people and assess what we will do next.
Note to myself: Never sip on a cuppa while watching Emma Thorne. This was hilarious. Love your work!
That story really makes me think - normally when an older person wants young, impressionable naked friends hanging around all the time at their beck and call, people see some serious red flags in that situation. Especially when the older person gets offended when the young, impressionable naked friends decide they don't want to be naked around that older person anymore...
But only if all persons are humans. Most humans don't have problems with naked dogs, cats, cows, pigs,.... etc.
@@vonrosphe3098 most people don't agree such are persons though.
@@vonrosphe3098 Well apparently god made us in his image that must count for something. Also its not like we can communicate profound levels with dogs, etc.
@@arno7163 What is in his image. Look like him or look like he wants us to look.
All animals could look like he/she/it images.
And if god is on such a higher level we can also not communicate with him on the same level as we do with other humans.
@@vonrosphe3098 Hey its your magic book that says "create in his own image" its either he made us in his image or as you said "or look like he wants us to look". So with that either god is a liar or your fantasy book lied
Got introduced to your channel from seeing your segment on SciManDan and have been binging your videos. Keep turning out the content, especially the stuff on religion. Your witty and charming personality really are such a perfect compliment to this kind of topic. You definitely got a sub out of me... Especially after your Paul and Morgan video on WandaVision. LMAO
Absolutely priceless.
I very much enjoyed this. "You're supposed to be my special naked friends!"
I have also always been mystified as to why God created the tree of knowledge and then told them not to eat from it, to which end about 20 years I wrote a story about it. Basically, while God is busy creating Hell, a bunch of bored angels get the serpent to tempt Eve by promising him legs, but Adam and Eve actually eat the fruit of the Tree of Stupidity by mistake. Certainly made more sense to me.
None of it makes sense, almost as if it was completely made up by ignorant ancient people.
Emma, you have a great on camera presence. Keep up the good work. Hail Emma.
I didn't become an atheist until I chose to become a Sunday school teacher at 16.
*(Because I didn't want to have to sit and listen to the adult sermon.)*
Fortunately.. I had to read the bible to become one. And not rely on the nice children's books that I'd only read.. BIG MISTAKE on there part.. D'oh !!
@Clyde Barrow Here's the thing, if one is raised being taught that the Bible is "the infallible word of God", yes, one is going to loose faith in God if the Bible is shown to have errors.
Of course, I wasn't raised that way, and I see no reason whatsoever to believe in a God. Is there some demonstrable evidence I'm missing?
@Clyde Barrow Have you read it? It's a comedy of errors, with God making one oblivious mistake after another.
When you read the Bible from the beginning, and not just cherry-picked snippets, you very quickly arrive at one of two possibilities: 1. God is an evil dude that you don't want anything to do with, or, more likely, 2. this whole book is bunk.
@@alexdevisscher6784 Funny you should say that. The first time I read the Bible in it's entirety, I had the first response. I still had some small belief, but felt that God would simply be awful, the second and third time's I read it, I had already become convinced that it was nothing but a story.
@Clyde Barrow
Apparently "reading the bible" is the #1 reason why Christians become atheists.
I was one of them, brought up on weekly church services. I'll admit that I was leaning towards atheism before I decided to read the bible in its entirety, hoping I'd find wisdom in it that would reinforce my faith.
I found very little wisdom. I found that the bible is horrific in its morality, I discovered how irrational the majority of its lessons are if you apply a modicum of thought to them. I found that it was impossible to believe in god - and that even if he was real then he's not worthy of worship. I found it primitive, constantly contradicted by science - and by itself. I thought that the lessons taught in the gospels were probably centuries ahead of their time, when Rome ran the western world, but somewhat backward and primative twenty centuries later. In short, the bible is utterly irrelevant to modern living, it's god is nothing more than a myth, and it's later authors (ie Paul) are savvy religious politicians pushing an agenda.
That was the final push toward atheism. I'm sure that many others have a similar experience.
When reading it I also came to appreciate that the people at my church were lovely, that they were a progressive bunch. No homophobia, no creationists, we had female reverands decades ago. They had their hearts in the right place, were generally private in their own beliefs, and were a big part of my upbringing and current moral code.
Sadly, I've also learned that they are probably in a minority. When I see how vicious and self-righteous many Christians are - particularly evangelists - and how political they are, how they seek to impose their beliefs on the rest of us, and that damage their ilk have done to the world throughout history, I've come to the conclusion that hostility towards their attitude is a reasonable course.
Yeah, they decided to avoid the absurdity of having Adam name all the animals in one day, which is pretty much unavoidable if you want to reconcile the two versions of the creation story in Genesis. One version has Adam being created, naming all the animals, and going to sleep before Eve is made. The other states that they were both made on the same day.
In one version you can imagine Adam contemplating and enjoying all of God's creation as he lovingly chooses names for all these creatures. In the other, he's frantically trying to come up with names and belting them out like an auctioneer while god presumably threatens him with lightning bolts.
"FASTER! AND STOP CRYING!"
(That last bit is artistic license. Not biblically sourced.)
See, I've always read the verses as human was made, was called Adam but is essentially non-binary, then we arr separated later on with the whole rib story.
I then like to tease that non-binary gender is the more divine lol. Which does have historical credence when one looks at indigenous cultures. :);)
"BEAVER! Beaver! I said Beaver! Stop yelling at me... :'("
Adam gets accidentally zapped “GIRAFFE!”
"One version has Adam being created, naming all the animals, and going to sleep before Eve is made." That has to be the correct version, because the other version is absolutely implausible. In the implausible version, Adam and Eve are created on the same day and Adam alone is giving the job of naming billions of animals. Then Eve says "What are you doing? You've been gone for ages. I asked you to take the trash out. No, no, no, that's not a duck! Obviously it's a waddler. You have absolutely no talent for this naming business. " See that's why Adam had to name all the animals before Eve was around.
i have never heard about adam naming the animals, nor adam and eve being created on the same day. The version i know is that god creates adam, then realize that it is not good for him being alone, so god puts him to sleep and creates eve from adam. And then the story goes on with the tree. Weird.
Hi Emma, just found your channel via MythVision. As a de-converted fundie (now agnostic) who was indoctrinated from birth, stuff like this is kinda cathartic to me. Love it ✌️
So do you still believe that it’s possible for a biblical god to exist?
Unless you were a Born Again Child of God's Eternal Kingdom in Spirit and in Truth you didn't "Deconvert" from anything.. You just became what you always wanted to become..
When the Fairytale of Evolutionism became available, you JUMPED at the chance .
Evolutionism is a poisonous lie for Atheists.. .
I'm sorry for the tree they cut down to make that paper. Poor tree could have been a copy of Lord of the Rings or even Twilight.
Even toilet paper would have been an upgrade.
Better yet. Harry Potter. Nothing like a bit of magic to piss them off.
Aha, loved this. Kudos on recognising Lilith since folks don't like to talk about her on account of how she said 'eff off' when Adam tried to dominate her.
Lilith is great, depending on which part of the myths you look at. I see her as a female who took control of her sexuality and refused to be ashamed about it. Sent her sigil to a friend recently, actually.
Also, she's the serpent in that story as well, meaning not only did she tell both God and Adam to shove off but she even went back to help Eve free herself too.
I am a witch that actually follows Lilith myself, I find the way she acts admirable.
What an entertaining read. I grew up pretty giga-christian, so this amusing reading of my childhood trauma is appreciated. The art style looks eerily similar to these books I had as a kid called "little fish books about jesus."
Fun fact: According to the account, god told Adam about the tree of the knowledge of good and evil before Eve was created. Therefore she wasn’t told directly about this dire warning. Maybe Adam mislead her?
Plot hole in the bible? What is this heresy! ;)
Or he did a bad job of explaining!
Eve gets blamed and the man has authority over his wife because of this.
Or maybe Adam didn't bother to tell her, thinking that the warning was only meant for him, or that God would have given it to her Himself if it were meant for her.
morning coffee & light indoctrination with Emma (Christian add roll preceding!) Happy Saturday, indeed 🖤
“It’s always about finding Jesus or finding God; Let God find you.”
Is it bad that I can imagine someone saying the same line in a different tone as an actual tenant of their religious sect / cult?
Only difference between a cult and a religion is about 100 years, or 4 generations.
Yeah. Its dumber than that. If you look hard enough (though, maybe not in a "modern" revisionist Bible, you find "god is in everyone's heart". This is on the scale of the lie that Jesus told about anyone with a grain of faith being able to perform greater miracles than even he did, in as much as it a) isn't true, since a lot of people end up leaving religion because they *never* found this imaginary being in the heart, and b) the only alternative explanations for this flaw is either 1) the Bible got this wrong, 2) =some people's religious theory= everyone is really lying and rejecting god, even though they claim not to be, or 3) =the Muslim version= god has intentionally chosen every single, and the vastly growing number of, atheist in the world to be among those that *cannot ever accept god*, because all the good people need people to hate and persecute, apparently...
This reminds me of the significantly less child friendly book I had when I was a kid. "My Book of Bible Stories". It was written for children but didn't leave out the nasty stuff. It was a much longer book that covered most of the significant stories from the Bible, like Cain killing Abel, the plagues of Egypt, the crucifixion of Jesus and that one time King Solomon ordered a baby to be cut in half.
To be fair Solomon never intended for the baby to be cut in half. It was merely a test to see which of the two women would be willing to give the baby up to save its life. On the other hand, in 2 Kings 2:23-24, God sends two she-bears to kill 42 children because they had called his prophet Elisha "bald head".
@@wizardsuth yeah lol, I don't think that story got a mention in the book
Weird lack of incest for an old testament story
@@wizardsuth That's fair, but as far as the bible stories book goes, the illustration shows a soldier holding a baby upside-down with his sword raised. THAT is the choice they made for children to gaze at for the next 40+ years.
@@binnsy6879 Isn't that a strange one to leave out? What a remarkable example of respecting your elders. :P
It's times like these that im reminded of Al Pacino's speech in Devil's Advocate. Delivered perfectly! If you haven't seen that movie, you're missing out, especially that speech. It's a damn good speech!
Ah, the story about "THIS TREE". God's Kinder Surprise Egg left alone on the counter. Quick reminder: God is All-Knownig, according to the story. As Admiral Ackbar would say: "Frolic in the surf and get drowned by the undertow."
Oh, and It's a trap.
I was raised with a pretty religious set of grandparents on my father's side, they preached all the classic bs of "kindness and generosity, honesty" type then when I was ten I got into a bad accident and almost died, lost all my stuff including like my actual bed n shit.
So their church raised money for me, money I never saw bc my grandma on that side pocketed it. She still claims she's a good christian. It was a month before my 11th birthday.
We found out bc the pastor called us to check in and mentioned the money. Oop lol.
Safe to say I'm a bit sus of christians now, I get it's not all of them but it's enough of em to scare me off. Her church had a bunch of super cool ones, she was a bad egg.
Actually, at 4:10 that version of God's speech is wrong, if I recall correctly in the real Bible god lies to Adam and Eve and tells them that if they eat the fruit they die. He doesn't say anything about that being the tree of knowledge. It's the snake (also created by God like everything else there) who tells them the truth, and of course not having the knowledge to discern good from evil, and knowing every creature in there, including themselves, was made by God, they listened to the snake.
Every time I hear the story of Adam and Eve, or the great flood... I think back to when I used to have an ant farm. As the being that provided them everything, I was their God in a way... But if just one of these little ants did something I didn't like, was that justification to punish or kill the entire colony? Well, no... But God would say yes. Every time apparently.
I struggle to see the God described in the Bible as a good being, but more like the main villain...
Now imagine you knew the ant was going to do that very thing, causing you to wipe out the whole colony save for a few of them, yet you went ahead and created them anyway, then got pissed when they did exactly what you knew they would do. Yeah, that is how absurd the story is.
God is the abusive father that expects unquestioning subservience just because he's your dad.
Does an all powerful God need anything?
I was raised evangelical. I remember so many songs and Bible verses I had to remember and I attended 5 Day Club which is a week long summer/after school club where you learn and memorize Bible verses for prizes. And was in Awana - a similar kind of club but held in a church sorta like boy/Girl Scouts but super fundamentalist Christian. Videos like this are major nostalgia but then I remember how fucked up it all was lol
I was in Awana too!
6:57-
We know the "Adam and Eve" story so well.. in such detail, that we even know when Adam BLINKED HARD.
How can anyone ever refute this obviously factual representation of our origin.
Absolutely amazing.
I love it. At last, a book can infuriate religious people AND sane people at the same time.
by the way,
- Aaadaaam, do you really love meeee?
- Eve, who the fukk should I love???!!
Lilith?
Not the book that infuriates me, it's the people who still believe the nonsense and especially those that would make laws and treat people differently because they don't believe in the same ancient fairy tale that they do.
Loved the review ♥️
Have you read “Good Omens”?
Anyway, again you’re spot on with your assessment of the book.
Keep up the good work, Emma 😃
This is brilliant! This is what happens when critical thinking is applied to biblical stories lol.
I'm from South Africa, a country that is highly conservative. Where one can often feel excluded from society as an atheist.
Emma you are remarkably witty and humorous at the same time. Tis a pleasure to watch your content.
Keep up the excellent work!
We need more skeptical smart funny UA-camrs like you.
And God punished The Serpent by turning it into one of the most beautiful and efficient predators on the planet that is loved by many people with taste and helps prevent the plagues and rodent infestions that God usually blesses humanity with.
10/10, would do it again XD
The serpent, healing totem in Greek myth and some Native American traditions (and in the frigging Bible come to think of it) and creator of the world in some Australian aborigine traditions.
I wonder what the worm did wrong
@@simongiles9749 _Zamenis longissimus_ was commonly kept as a household pet by ancient Greeks and particularly Macedonians. Kept down the rats and mice. Grew to 2 metres long, very tolerant of handling, good temperament. Cats became popular later.
I wonder if the reason why most aliens in sci-fi are portrayed as naked because they have no concept of original sin? No I don’t.
How come I never saw the whole 'special naked friends' thing before? Now I can take this story even less seriously...
I'm pretty sure I had some of the other books in that series growing up, the cover art is definitely familiar. With the way its written, I'm also reminded of a big old chunky children's bible I grew up with. Though dubbed with the unimaginative name of 'The Children's Bible Storybook', it was one of the only attempts I'd seen of a children's bible putting all the stories together into a cohesive narrative, therefore referencing characters and events I'd never heard of before, including the Bayblonian exile, which was depicted as part of a long redemption narrative. The artwork was also absolutely gorgeous. Unfortunately, with only the briefest scriptural references included in the margins, this book eschews the actual words of the Bible in favour of its own spin on things. Satan is shoehorned in everywhere - not only in the Garden of Eden, where he's given a brief backstory of a fallen angel, but he's also depicted as being behind the actions of Cain, Haman, Herod, Judas, even Manasseh, the King of Judah who's only crime according to the Bible was allowing for religious pluralism. There are also things like stating that Cain's offer to god was borne out of jealousy and trying to curry favour, whereas in the Bible, the jealousy is only depicted as coming after God rejected his offer. Though I do want to commend the book for being unique in many respects, it's still a work of indoctrination, quite severely so.
The idea that Adam and Eve wouldn't even understand disobeying was bad hadn't occurred to me before watching this. Just adds another layer to how fucked up this story is. Also, I love your outfit
If you close your eyes and don't think about it at all it really does make sense XD
I went to a Catholic school so I had this stuff shoved down my throat constantly lol I was a pretty good kid -- I didn't get in trouble much -- and the few times I did it was because I would question my theology teacher and get yelled at for it. Things like "the Bible doesn't mention when Lucifer fell and Genesis is the first mention of "Lucifer" in snake form so when did Lucifer fall from Heaven?", "why does God hate witches?" (as the Bible mentions witches being evil and burning them a few times), "why should we follow a God that attacks children?" (there's a passage in the Bible about children making fun of a bald man so God sent an animal to attack/kill? (don't remember which) them in response), "the Bible never really gives any explanation on what Hell is so why should we be scared of it?", and, my personal favorite, "if Satan punishes bad guys, that would make him a good guy, so why is he a villain?"
Suffice to say, I'm not Catholic
Weird propaganda as a kid? I went to Catholic school, church every morning, nuns in the classrooms, paddlings for not having your homework done. We’d be here for months! LoL!
Of course they hid after eating the fruit. They just learned everything to know about good and evil. They immediately realized God set them up (which is evil) and had all the power (which is also evil). I'm surprised they didn't jump the garden's gate and got the hell out of there.
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It always feels good to see and hear other Atheïsts. So thank you. :)
I dont understand the people who say you are ugly and unattractive.. 1 thats not even REMOTELY true but you are also hilarious, smart, strong willed, and respectful of even people who insult you which is very attractive traits. Whoever is your second half should consider themselves a very lucky person. :)
It's a tactic as old as time - when you are unable to counter a person's argument or position, you attack their character or appearance instead.
Yeah it doesn’t matter that she’s gorgeous, insecure people will insecure and make up flaws that are just projection. It’s always that way.
My favorite part is when the GENIUS keeps the snake, bans humans now that they know and place an Angel (the most pacific creature) guard with a flaming sword in a place where everything can burn.
Today I learned what pacific means
Great vid, some very astute and pertinent observations on your behalf. Only discovered your channel a few weeks ago. Keep em coming.. Cheers
3:30 At least Adam actually looks vaguely Jewish in this art. The flash cards I remember had, like, white people with crew cuts wearing well-tailored animal skins. Oh, and Eve *always* had perfectly styled rippling blonde hair and smooth armpits. I guess female body hair was just a part of "the curse" or whatever.
Adam was not Jewish lol
@@shaunsteele8244 What was he, then? Maybe I don't know the extended lore.
This young woman is incredible. Her personality and intellect is addictive lol. I just enjoy listening to her speak. She is just a decent human being which seems rare in the 21st century
I have a big crush on her I confess.
She's just too attractive physically and most important intelectually.
@@leonardogabrieltrevinoloba2377 "Fiscally" Her money is atractive too?
@@thebolas000 Man, my mistake xD
@Russell's Brand I've always find Adam and Eve story to be a metaphor
I got kicked out of a few churches for asking questions.
Oh here goes, at least it's Emma reading this, I can tolerate hearing it this way at the very least. ❤️
I just thought of this while listening, but the story of Adam & Eve can be interpreted a different way. Like, it can technically be a tale of fighting oppression by gaining wisdom through challenging the expected
Yes, it's a perfectly reasonable change of the point of view, where God is the bad guy and the serpent the good guy. That also explains why Eve, after gaining the knowledge of right and wrong, convinced Adam to also eat the fruit: because Eve understood that was the right thing to do.
A bit late, but honestly, I feel like a *lot* of the Bible could be interpreted in a similar way. When you look at other classical religions, it actually seems really clear how the God of the Abrahamic faiths was an evolution of an entity (or amalgamation of entities) from earlier proto-Abrahamic faiths. Because when you take away all of the happy, fluffy talk that people in more recent millennia tend to use to prop it up as some kind of benevolent and loving father figure, and just look at what it actually *does*, God absolutely comes off just like other mythological figures such as Zeus, Ishtar, Odin, etc. They're something akin to a sapient force of nature, which makes sense given that gods in those tales often represented natural forces like storms or concepts like love.
Sure, it might be fond of particular individuals and show more benevolent behavior to groups it favors, but in the end it's still going to hit humanity with all the gentleness and affection of a hurricane when the whim strikes it. And just like in many other earlier religions such as the ancient Greek divine cults, I think there's a good chance that pushing obedience and humility in the face of its power probably didn't start off as a result of it being some kind of omnibenevolent overseer who knows what's best, but because it's foolish to pridefully defy a god in the same way that it's foolish to pridefully stand in a tornado's path insisting that you can overcome it if you just be sure to plant your feet really firmly on the ground.
@@VenathTehN3RD why does a book, supposedly written by men who were inspired by god, that is supposed to lay down the rules for life so as to avoid eternal torture, require any kind of interpretation to be understood? No good god would do that to his creations. So either god is bad or as I believe, was made up long ago by ignorant people.
This was hilarious!! (Understaning everything so much better now, thanks Emma.)
I love the fact that Emma brings the snark to this.