The One Who Is; The One Who Gives: Aquinas, Derrida and the Dilemma of the Divine Generosity
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- Опубліковано 10 жов 2024
- Bishop Robert Barron's lecture at the Pontifical University of St. Thomas Aquinas (The Angelicum) in Rome, given on March 7, 2019 after he received an honorary doctorate from the university.
Truly a powerful a speaker!
Bishop Robert Barron standing tall in our beloved Catholic Church!
Proud of you Bishop and Thank You from the heart. Sincere prayers always for you.
I so appreciate this post. Been struggling with Jean-Luc Marion's idea of "God without Being," and his idea of the gift. Wasn't sure there was a way out of it. Amazing stuff Bishop.
Yeah, me too. It is a remarkable book, and I think more conciliatory than the title suggests. The difficulty for Marion (and then of course for us) is that he is trying to reconcile Derrida and perhaps more significantly, Heidegger, which is a circle that just can’t be squared.
I’ve been going back to Fr Norris Clarke, not so much One and the Many (which is excellent), but his Aquinas Lecture “Person and Being”. There he describes the Holy Trinity in a way similar to the way B Barron does here, where the dynamism within the Trinity makes it possible for us to participate in the originary act of Being.
Put more plainly, perhaps, it is an excellent guide to understanding the paradox of Trinitatum in Unitate, Unitatem in Trinitate, as the Athanasian Creed has it.
www.amazon.com/Person-Aquinas-Lecture-Norris-Clarke/dp/0874621607
I’ve found it helpful, at any rate. I’m interested in what Fr Barron makes of it, and others here, for that matter. Other readers have objected to Clarke’s thesis, and I haven’t really sorted through that.
At any rate, thanks for the comment, and of course thanks to Bishop Barron for this extraordinary and clarifying discussion!
Pax Tecum
A great Lecture and a Sound Oratory... I pray God blesses and Keep you...
It was a very good speech. Thank you Bishop Barron!
Thanks Bishop Barron.
This lecture has brought me a little healing of my deeply secularised heart, constantly suspicious of grace. Thank you Bishop Barron!
Awesome Paper! God bless you dear Bishop....
I Love Jesús Christ! Thank you Bishop Robert Barron! God bless all! 😇😇😇
Thank you so much Bishop Barron and above all thank you God for giving us Fr Barron. So many good pints made already. Agree with all and can’t add more except thank you everyone. God bless and keep you Bishop Barron. 🙏👏
Listened closely; fully humbled. I am who am vs the good. I just need to sit and listen to God.
Brilliant! Thank you Bishop Barron.
There are so many think that religion and God are for the simple minded and naive you see how profound this is...
@Jarrid GableWhat are you now?
@Jarrid Gable How has your walk with the Lord been so far?
@Jarrid Gable Amen. Are you with the Catholic church?
@Jarrid Gable I like him too
@Jarrid Gable Why limit your Christian experience to the bible alone? Why admire the beauty of Catholicism from the sidelines, brother? The [Catholic] church is the bible and *more*. Did you become a Christian and stop asking those hard-hitting questions? God bless you.
Illuminating Light!! Amen! Amen!
Beloved God 😇😇😇 Guide us ever!
It's especially interesting that Derrida comes to conclusion the Bishop discusses at 5:30, considering it is essentially the philosophical context of Marxism, i.e. The revolution will bring us Utopia. The Utopia never arrives but is continually promised.
Love Jesús so much! 😇😇😇
Deep.
If Love it's decision, i Love Jesús Christ cause He love me! No have arguments then they come but Jesús Christ love us so much it's our reality that really can't see, ever i was in love from Jesús so when you're in love doesn't ask nothing and there He talks to you. Jesús talks who is in love with him. 😇😇😇
" ...even deeper waters..." Yipes!
Thank you Bishop Barron! A beautiful exposition! If possible, could you clarify how your conclusion about believers' ability to share in God's giving/loving can be harmonized with Josef Pieper's point in his essay on 'Love' that it is unnatural to expect human persons (on account of their creatureliness) to love God disinterestedly? The way I understand Pieper's point: grace perfects nature and does not destroy it -- so he criticizes some theologians who set up a dichotomy between agape (which they define as purely disinterested love) and eros.
doesn't etienne gilson's book the transcendentals address some of what bishop barron speaks of.God very essence is to exist but when we speak of god there is also one,the true . the good and the beautiful. ALl are vitally important when speaking of god. when we speak of one , he others too must be addressed.
Is there any place where one can find this paper available to read? Thanks!
Go on the Joe Rogan experience
11:42 (Zen-like formulation,...)
21:47 (Being...Sound)
22:00
14:53 (Creaturely Agents)
4:45
10:37
Incandescent.
6:34