We should all be striving to be saints walking on earth. The world needs it. How much does it cost to be a saint? All. Everything you are and you have.
By a factor of 4: "Give, and it will be given to you. 1. A good measure, 2. pressed down, 3.shaken together and 4. running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.” Luke 6.38 Give much, scatter it across the waters, 'Cast your bread upon the waters, for >after many days< you will find it again. Give portions to seven, yes to eight, for you do not know what disaster may come upon the land.' Ecclesiastes 11 Understanding this Kingdom principle will change a believer's life, being a responsible steward of what God has provided to us we give out of the abundance. But sometimes we must give out of our lack, like the Widow's mite that God might prove us trustworthy. Then He will enlarge our territory into those 4 broadening channels of return. But if we mishandle it, we'll remain stuck at 1:1. "How much better to get wisdom than gold, to get insight rather than silver!" :) But we all know, Solomon received in great measure all three.
In the interest of sharing research ideas: I wonder if you changed the amounts to $1000000 and offer a split would a different ratio emerge as the average offer? I imagine that as the cost of reprimanding the bad offer increases, less people would reject the offer. Also, I imagine as the cost of appearing generous increases the number of generous offers decreases.
He already is a preacher, in a smart way, the fact if anybody go preach and claim Jesus rise from the dead is like saying to common people Santa Claus is real, it is a hard pill to have. Instead, he display the physcological benefit of aplying what the scripture say and mean. By exemple: say the truth, live by the truth, it is like saying follow Jesus Christ who claimed to be truth the way and the light. He outsmart the usualy anti eclesiasique argumentation and go right into the meaning of it. He give a way, to follow the truth, and the light the good will come to you. What more you want from him ?
@@hardouinvictor Yeah, I’m surprised people haven’t realized that about him, and that he’s basically banking off of believers by bringing a more secular understanding to scripture.
Don't commit to what you don't believe, how many catholic believe in the real presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucaristic.. not 100%. So Is that better to clame what you not are, or say what you believe to be true ? Now is the securalisation of his preach a problem.. If he teach people: walk that path, because he believe it is the best path possible, and it is the same path that come to Jesus Christ, where is the problem ?
Galatians 5:22-23 ESV love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, [23] gentleness, self-control; This falls under love, peace, kindness, goodness, gentleness, and faithfulness so ya
I don't believe God is love itself. I think feeling God's light is like feeling God's love. If it isn't God's love, then feeling God's something is just that great. Which i could see being a possibility tbh. That old kinda tale where just gazing upon something is somehow blindingly amazing.
Who is first shall be last and who is last shall be first. Generosity affords you spiritually to put others first, you just need to put your confidence in the Holy will of God. Trust God...for he clothes the birds in the trees- does he not love you more?
They are about to start accountability ,one of the things this game became and human trafficking will be what loses people democracy except those who gave. We will soon see not only how smart people are but what are people willing to risk or take the chance of losing for giving just a few hundred. I know what almost every person made of me. And to give fair $750 even though $7,500 is closer to it or even 75k but do you have idea what amazing you will receive after you give to the one daily millions made off and absolutely nothing given in over 7 years. Paying though criminals rent,bills and thousands weekly to move next door to me to hopefully fight with me and make me look bad, that is so insane and sick.
Whenj Jesus said give everything away and follow me he was not kidding . People that hold on to tight end up alone with no one to play with , sad situation
I think money has more of a change energy about it than any kind of attentive energy about it…you know, if all you want is money, I don’t really gotta pay attention at all…really..um, right? (Even if it’s for, “Break America!..Great!..Again!” energy.) Yeah…money is just the jingling keys keeping the kids attention…I think it was Gandhi who said, “Be the change you want to see.” (My big picture, is still just a small part.) 🥁=👍? I still like thinking Jordan Peterson, is a song and dance man, but he could be the devil.😂 (Sometimes I think, “You’re too bright for this place.”, and I wonder, “What are you doing here?”) “💡”online?!
When the five K were fed, though they only had five loaves and two fishes, I believe it was the act of generosity that became the source of the multiplication of the bread and fish. As long as there is giving, there is receiving, and the most generous receive the most, but not necessarily the same product given.
What merciful God are they talking about here? The one who destroyed all mankind in the global flood? The one who could not forgive a man created in his own image until he killed his own son. Then he calmed down, but suffering and evil flourish on earth.
The flood happened because of the evil happening on earth. God gives us free will and respects it but if we do too much evil then how can we not expect judgement? God is good but he is just
The christian conception of love is charity because as C.S. Lewis and St. Augustine observe while there is a more satisfying feeling to sacrifice, and in the relationship with God, that is what he demands sacrifice of your own pleasures for his greater glory, it is not necessarily the best because it is often, too often a promotion of a focus on the self, where we become great in our own eyes or we do something for the praise we will receive from someone we care about. Why the christian idea of the greatest act of love being charity is that you should receive no material or psychological benefit from it. Giving to the poor, privately and without letting your one hand know what the other gives, is something which should not be satisfying but is, when we give to people who can give us nothing, to whom we are not attached, who we don't gain any social benefit from helping, we do something solely because it is good and righteous and in a small way that rubs off on our soul and we become more good and more righteous, that virtue within us grows.
I don't think there is difference here. I think willingness to suffer for the benefit of another falla under willing the good for another. If you truly will someone's good you are willing to die for them. So in the case of Christ the highest good that humanity could have is eternal salvation, and since he willed that good for us, he was willing to die for our eternal salvation.
@@flabiger you’re right, they can be the same. It’s just that it’s so easy to pretend we will the good of others. We can do that through words alone, and words are cheap. The only true test of love is how much you endure on their behalf.
Using the "game" Dr. Peterson cites isn't reveling of the magic of God's way if interpreted as discovering successful strategies for self-advancement. Throughout, the Bible makes clear that human beings were created to be the means by which God's love (and truth) can be active in the world, tending and keeping the garden at every level. What that means is that the truth of God's love made manifest through people is what creates, maintains and constantly enriches the garden.
Understanding the Catholic history? I believe we're letting the devil in entertaining transxhristianty! The spirit of Jesus is the striving expectation? I don't understand 😢
I understand the sentiment but in our current system and society generosity is exploited and people are looking to take, I would assume any GTO calculations on how to play life right now would have you being very careful with your generosity and much more liberal with your willingness to be disagreeable.
Love to see Bishop Barron and Peterson together!
5:40 you can actually think about this on terms of love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control
Their food is getting cold.,.
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The location is beautiful
When the value of the conversation succeeds the value of the meal, it is truly worth listening to. Many thanks! 🤗
Yeah, but how you gonna put that steak there like that and just have me LOOK at it.
Dr. Peterson is the badass the world needs right now.
Indeed
Give ‘em hell!
He needs to convert to Catholicism, he can't be on the fence.
Word!
@@obama_yo_mama4653I think catholicism needs to convert to Petersonism, really, is no joke
All glories to the communion of saints!
Lovely conversation between two great minds. This cradle Catholic loved it ❤
One of his best videos out there... Im so happy to see Dr Peterson Once again at his best. ❤❤❤
Thanks Jordan !
wow, the cinematography on this is phenomenal
God Bless JP!
We should all be striving to be saints walking on earth. The world needs it. How much does it cost to be a saint? All. Everything you are and you have.
Amen.
🙏🕊️
Amazing conversation... Always something beautiful to learn from both of these men
Amen!
Peterson's suits are pretty awesome but Bishop Robert Baron's sleek black suit with the chain is cool f
The self control of these men. I would've chowed down when Peterson went on with his logicing 😂
Great video
❤this discussion. Glory to God for these posts.🙏
As always thank you so much for your input and your guests.
I don't know whats on their plates but it looks delicious.
Thank you for this conversation.
By a factor of 4:
"Give, and it will be given to you.
1. A good measure,
2. pressed down,
3.shaken together and
4. running over,
will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.” Luke 6.38
Give much, scatter it across the waters, 'Cast your bread upon the waters, for >after many days< you will find it again. Give portions to seven, yes to eight, for you do not know what disaster may come upon the land.' Ecclesiastes 11
Understanding this Kingdom principle will change a believer's life, being a responsible steward of what God has provided to us we give out of the abundance. But sometimes we must give out of our lack, like the Widow's mite that God might prove us trustworthy. Then He will enlarge our territory into those 4 broadening channels of return. But if we mishandle it, we'll remain stuck at 1:1.
"How much better to get wisdom than gold, to get insight rather than silver!" :) But we all know, Solomon received in great measure all three.
EMPATHY
In the interest of sharing research ideas: I wonder if you changed the amounts to $1000000 and offer a split would a different ratio emerge as the average offer? I imagine that as the cost of reprimanding the bad offer increases, less people would reject the offer. Also, I imagine as the cost of appearing generous increases the number of generous offers decreases.
I do believe that people start making deals with the devil when you start adding zeroes
This was a great convo! Praise God !!
Love them
Oh my God, I love this! Only thing better than watching each of these guys separately is watching them together. 🤩🤩🤩🤩
Thank You ❤
if jbp could commit to catholicism he would be one of the greatest speakers on the faith.
A lot of his religious and spiritual lectures sound like they’re very reflective of the Latter-day Saint Church.
He already is a preacher, in a smart way, the fact if anybody go preach and claim Jesus rise from the dead is like saying to common people Santa Claus is real, it is a hard pill to have. Instead, he display the physcological benefit of aplying what the scripture say and mean. By exemple: say the truth, live by the truth, it is like saying follow Jesus Christ who claimed to be truth the way and the light. He outsmart the usualy anti eclesiasique argumentation and go right into the meaning of it. He give a way, to follow the truth, and the light the good will come to you. What more you want from him ?
@@hardouinvictor Yeah, I’m surprised people haven’t realized that about him, and that he’s basically banking off of believers by bringing a more secular understanding to scripture.
Don't commit to what you don't believe, how many catholic believe in the real presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucaristic.. not 100%. So Is that better to clame what you not are, or say what you believe to be true ? Now is the securalisation of his preach a problem.. If he teach people: walk that path, because he believe it is the best path possible, and it is the same path that come to Jesus Christ, where is the problem ?
Galatians 5:22-23 ESV
love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, [23] gentleness, self-control;
This falls under love, peace, kindness, goodness, gentleness, and faithfulness so ya
Is there a full version to this conversation? :)
I believe there is on Daily Wire Plus.
Thank you :)
Sell whuteva ya could pos. Buy Again but Personal souls weh got only Onc3 😢❤
I don't believe God is love itself.
I think feeling God's light is like feeling God's love.
If it isn't God's love, then feeling God's something is just that great.
Which i could see being a possibility tbh.
That old kinda tale where just gazing upon something is somehow blindingly amazing.
You either talk or you eat.
❤❤❤❤❤
Who is first shall be last and who is last shall be first. Generosity affords you spiritually to put others first, you just need to put your confidence in the Holy will of God. Trust God...for he clothes the birds in the trees- does he not love you more?
Being on a carnivore diet in Italy must be Hell.
Kind of worried about Jordan's voice. It's been worn & weak for a while. Hope he is OK
ex muslim
They are about to start accountability ,one of the things this game became and human trafficking will be what loses people democracy except those who gave. We will soon see not only how smart people are but what are people willing to risk or take the chance of losing for giving just a few hundred. I know what almost every person made of me. And to give fair $750 even though $7,500 is closer to it or even 75k but do you have idea what amazing you will receive after you give to the one daily millions made off and absolutely nothing given in over 7 years. Paying though criminals rent,bills and thousands weekly to move next door to me to hopefully fight with me and make me look bad, that is so insane and sick.
Whenj Jesus said give everything away and follow me he was not kidding . People that hold on to tight end up alone with no one to play with , sad situation
I think money has more of a change energy about it than any kind of attentive energy about it…you know, if all you want is money, I don’t really gotta pay attention at all…really..um, right?
(Even if it’s for, “Break America!..Great!..Again!” energy.)
Yeah…money is just the jingling keys keeping the kids attention…I think it was Gandhi who said, “Be the change you want to see.”
(My big picture, is still just a small part.)
🥁=👍?
I still like thinking Jordan Peterson, is a song and dance man, but he could be the devil.😂
(Sometimes I think, “You’re too bright for this place.”, and I wonder, “What are you doing here?”)
“💡”online?!
If i can get my word going, more refined, and educated in manners then yes teaching is awesome.
When the five K were fed, though they only had five loaves and two fishes, I believe it was the act of generosity that became the source of the multiplication of the bread and fish. As long as there is giving, there is receiving, and the most generous receive the most, but not necessarily the same product given.
Only God is generous, a man cannot do anything by himself! Is Dead
Must be born again! 😮 The salvation is not for working in your own ways!
What merciful God are they talking about here? The one who destroyed all mankind in the global flood? The one who could not forgive a man created in his own image until he killed his own son. Then he calmed down, but suffering and evil flourish on earth.
The flood happened because of the evil happening on earth. God gives us free will and respects it but if we do too much evil then how can we not expect judgement? God is good but he is just
0:40
Love is not to will the good of another.
Love is the willingness to suffer for the benefit of another.
Crucial difference.
The christian conception of love is charity because as C.S. Lewis and St. Augustine observe while there is a more satisfying feeling to sacrifice, and in the relationship with God, that is what he demands sacrifice of your own pleasures for his greater glory, it is not necessarily the best because it is often, too often a promotion of a focus on the self, where we become great in our own eyes or we do something for the praise we will receive from someone we care about. Why the christian idea of the greatest act of love being charity is that you should receive no material or psychological benefit from it. Giving to the poor, privately and without letting your one hand know what the other gives, is something which should not be satisfying but is, when we give to people who can give us nothing, to whom we are not attached, who we don't gain any social benefit from helping, we do something solely because it is good and righteous and in a small way that rubs off on our soul and we become more good and more righteous, that virtue within us grows.
I don't think there is difference here. I think willingness to suffer for the benefit of another falla under willing the good for another. If you truly will someone's good you are willing to die for them. So in the case of Christ the highest good that humanity could have is eternal salvation, and since he willed that good for us, he was willing to die for our eternal salvation.
Love is the most debasing feeling one can have as a human
@@flabiger you’re right, they can be the same. It’s just that it’s so easy to pretend we will the good of others. We can do that through words alone, and words are cheap. The only true test of love is how much you endure on their behalf.
Could it be both? JP says love is the best of me serving the best in you. I think that’s a pretty good description.
Using the "game" Dr. Peterson cites isn't reveling of the magic of God's way if interpreted as discovering successful strategies for self-advancement. Throughout, the Bible makes clear that human beings were created to be the means by which God's love (and truth) can be active in the world, tending and keeping the garden at every level. What that means is that the truth of God's love made manifest through people is what creates, maintains and constantly enriches the garden.
Way ho ngre
It doesn't there is no reason to be generous apart from getting something out of the person who gets the gifts
@@Sci-Filip there is nothing joyous about life apart from taking what you desire
@@Sci-Filip desires are all that you ultimately have always go all the way otherwise you'll regret it
Both on the meat diet lol 🥩
All I can say is action speaks lauder than sweet word Bishop. You can preach but...
What do you mean?
Bishop Barron has given his entire life to God and His purposes. What are talking about?
The way I see it, the more you deliver from evil, the more insight you get how to prosper.
Is that a joke?
Understanding the Catholic history? I believe we're letting the devil in entertaining transxhristianty!
The spirit of Jesus is the striving expectation?
I don't understand 😢
I understand the sentiment but in our current system and society generosity is exploited and people are looking to take, I would assume any GTO calculations on how to play life right now would have you being very careful with your generosity and much more liberal with your willingness to be disagreeable.