She's great! Wondering whether it is also possible to sue the gyms based on facilitation of sex crimes. They are allowing men to expose themselves, exhibitionism/flashing, and watch women change, voyeurism, by allowing men in women's locker rooms.
Even being followed by a man into ladies toilets, (seconds after I went in - he was trying to intimidate me as I wouldn't be friends with him) was very scarey! In a local pub, luckily I had my brother and his girlfriend who came out to wait for me when she saw the creep following. Not as bad as changing rooms or poor girls in schools, but bad enough to put me off going out. Thank you for your courageous stand
Reasonable people don't hang around in toilets or changing rooms trying to make friends - do they? I'm glad of unisex changing rooms, because my husband helps me with dressing and getting in and out of the swimming pool. How often have we had a chat with anyone else who happens to be in there? Never! This is the problem with the way these spaces are changing. Most of us don't have time to think about how criminals are motivated, and the opportunities for crime.
Well done Emma Hardy for bringing this case , and may it be the first of many , there's a very dark movement to erode the boundaries of women and girls .
The gym changed the terms of the agreement with their patrons without notification ergo the contracts with the patrons will be voided. Full refund. Then never go back. Find a sane gym.
You don't need to say "biological women." Transwomen are not women. Everyone knows that. There is only women. Even prefixing women with biological enebles the gratification within the agenda pushers.
One of the most dangerous things being pushed under this 'banner' is for all of us to accept Minor Attracted Persons. One such individual (on you tube) has said that they prefer this term "because it is less stigmatizing than the word paedophile".
If it takes weeks to disclose a companies policy this is a shady business and should be avoided all together. It shouldn't take more than a day at most. If it is their practice to not provide private areas for both female and Male it should be avoided like the plague .
Home education is a joy. I miss it so much now all my kids have graduated to university and beyond. And the key takeaway for us in home educating was how much better adjusted and calm and happy our kids were when NOT in a school. I've had fears about them in university, but you have to hope you've done a good enough job of getting them to question everything, and then let them go. (Fingers crossed!)
I just do not understand how other real women even put up with this in the first place. Stop thinking you need to stop being polite and nice and you are not being “ trans phobic, or hateful for standing up for your rights.
A guy I know was really proud that he and his wife had encouraged his daughters's best friend to become a boy. He was proud that he and his wife were being more supportive than the girls parents.
wait, there are no single sex changing rooms at David Lloyd? I am not a member but they would be losing me as a customer if I was. WTF is going on in the world.
well done . they cant keep forcing these things into our faces . i fear going to the ladies at work and meeting a man who identifies as a woman. its awful . in fact to reword my comment , have gone into the ladies toilets at my old work and a man who had transitioned came in and i was terrified i had to leave and go to another - i knew this person as a man when i first joined the company .
I'm largely in agreement with the views expressed in this video, but I do think it's a little more complicated. Imagine a biological female who has transitioned to "man" and has taken significant amounts of cross-sex hormones. This person will look like an adult man. If this person follows their biological sex, they would use a female changing room - would this be appropriate? Wouldn't it make women uncomfortable, regardless of the biological sex of the person? Now, take one further step back. Just looking superficially, how can you tell which people are biological males who are men, and which people are biological females (who present as men)? Look at Buck Angel, for instance - if Buck walked into the female locker room, how could you tell that it was ok (because Buck is female)?
Because the gym is breaking the law and their contract with the gym user. If someone doesn’t provide a service that you’ve paid for, and are acting unlawfully, do you just go and pay someone else?
Are they defining gender presentation, as outward visible phenotype or are they referring to someone who has undergone/completed hormonal and surgical transition? Additionally the communal changing room is quite a dated concept could a solution, particularly when talking about huge commercial ventures, not be changing rooms which incorporate individual cubicles? Although, showering could still prove problematic for many. It seems as if changes are being made when infrastructure to accommodate primary preferences, beyond a sweeping generalisation isn’t provided.
I don’t think the extent of what someone has done to themselves makes it any different. What would the gym do, require proof of castration? Even then, there would still be a privacy issue and possibly still a safety one. Individual changing cubicles don’t guarantee safety or privacy either. Young children run in and out of them, and a man claiming to be a woman could easily expose themselves/look at others through an open door or simply by standing outside the cubicles. What about moving around between entrance, showers, toilets, changing cubicles and exit? Also, cubicles are grouped together in an enclosed space. That enclosed space should be single sex for safety. What if only one woman happens to be in that area when a man comes in? I’m not saying trans people are all perpetrators. No one is saying all men are perpetrators, but we recognise that women need their own spaces away from men for decency, privacy and to be safe from a small minority who have bad intentions. We can’t identify which men are dangerous, and we can’t get round it by making the women stay in little boxes, so we say men are not allowed in certain spaces designated for women, and vice versa for the equivalent spaces for men. All the same things apply when it comes to men who say they identify as women.
13:45 handwashing and wearing a mask is not damaging to children. And if your hands get sore use creme. As much as I applaud her fight against this gender crassness I oppose her views regarding that and I am saying that as a medical specialist.
The gym does provide single sex changing rooms. Women voluntarily exclude themselves from the male changing rooms rooms - single sex changing rooms exist there!
When transmen on testosterone go back to the ladies room which you will force by law, you'll have issues with that as well. And don't tell me you can always tell!
Fine with me too. In fact it’s a safety issue for them to use male spaces, especially younger women and girls who can be very vulnerable with an underdeveloped sense of risk. I think they should be with other women. Thank you for raising this important point.
Try the Davina Lloyd gym - oh wait - they don't exist! Why is it that if an opportunity does not exist, women the do nothing to create it. So no 9one has access to this opportunity. But as soon as men create an opportunity, women Have to have at least equal or preferential access to the it! Why are so very few women creating opportunities for others?
No, she was being critical of those policies and behaviours at institutions eg that's why her daughter's hand became sore and dry from the schools policy of hand sanitiser and excess washing
Great. It's ridiculous that we still need to fight for our rights as females in 2024, but here we are.
Excellent news. People have to start standing up and fighting these ridiculous policies.
She's great! Wondering whether it is also possible to sue the gyms based on facilitation of sex crimes. They are allowing men to expose themselves, exhibitionism/flashing, and watch women change, voyeurism, by allowing men in women's locker rooms.
Incredible how few stand up and confront - but incredible how effective confrontation can be when they do.
Good luck Emma.
I’m looking to join a gym… note to self… do not join David Lloyd gym.
Exactly it's literally a private business so what's your issue?
@@thedarkness111because private businesses seek profits which this company won't have if they don't provide safe spaces for their female members.
As someone who was once a member of a David Lloyd gym, there are many reasons not to join a David Lloyd gym and this isn't even the top of the list.
Oh I do hope she wins. On what planet are these people on forcing young women to share a public bathroom with men. It’s wrong.
It would be great if gym users formed a group to sue these gyms instead of one person shouldering the entire battle like brave Emma Hardy.
Even being followed by a man into ladies toilets, (seconds after I went in - he was trying to intimidate me as I wouldn't be friends with him) was very scarey! In a local pub, luckily I had my brother and his girlfriend who came out to wait for me when she saw the creep following. Not as bad as changing rooms or poor girls in schools, but bad enough to put me off going out.
Thank you for your courageous stand
Reasonable people don't hang around in toilets or changing rooms trying to make friends - do they?
I'm glad of unisex changing rooms, because my husband helps me with dressing and getting in and out of the swimming pool. How often have we had a chat with anyone else who happens to be in there? Never! This is the problem with the way these spaces are changing. Most of us don't have time to think about how criminals are motivated, and the opportunities for crime.
Evil people. Speak to Kellie Jay Keen about this. She will go and confront them
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Good for you Emma more women should speak about this .😊
We have been for years but the cowardly mainstream media don't report on it!
@@SexRealist301 we are being forgotton by mainstream media yes .
What a great role model of assertive consumer-ship (as opposed to consumerism...). I hope this case makes big ripples.
Good for you! Women should be able to feel safe in women-only spaces.
They are just hoping to get away with it and know perfectly well what they are doing. No confusion
Well done Emma Hardy for bringing this case , and may it be the first of many , there's a very dark movement to erode the boundaries of women and girls .
Good for you. The more people who stand up against this lunacy of 'identifying as a woman makes you one' the better.
Call it out, great work!
The gym changed the terms of the agreement with their patrons without notification ergo the contracts with the patrons will be voided. Full refund. Then never go back. Find a sane gym.
Amazing that if the trans thing sued they would get all the help but biological women can't
It’s male privilege.
Freak privledge.
You don't need to say "biological women." Transwomen are not women. Everyone knows that. There is only women.
Even prefixing women with biological enebles the gratification within the agenda pushers.
Thank you for standing for women where David Lloyd Gym will refuse to. We've seen how these policies go.
Give this lady a medal 🏅❤
Good for you Emma 💪 we should all call this very dangerous nonsense out once and for all!
One of the most dangerous things being pushed under this 'banner' is for all of us to accept Minor Attracted Persons. One such individual (on you tube) has said that they prefer this term "because it is less stigmatizing than the word paedophile".
But nobody is pushing acceptance of disordered people like that other than accepting that they exist. Don’t be silly.
@@dwayne_dibleyIt is happening and it is a dreadful thing for gay men and women who have lived this before. Open your eyes
@@dwayne_dibleyNever heard of lsla Bryson (for example) then?
The amount of money David Lloyd charge . You would think they would want to keep there family reputation
I wrote a letter of complaint to a wellbeing centre I attend, they stopped their unisex toilet idea. U can fight this!
If it takes weeks to disclose a companies policy this is a shady business and should be avoided all together. It shouldn't take more than a day at most. If it is their practice to not provide private areas for both female and Male it should be avoided like the plague .
Fantastically informed and sensible woman ♥️
Thank you for doing this hope you win you should but who knows how woke the court is…
Thank you Peter for inviting this brave woman.
Home education is a joy. I miss it so much now all my kids have graduated to university and beyond. And the key takeaway for us in home educating was how much better adjusted and calm and happy our kids were when NOT in a school. I've had fears about them in university, but you have to hope you've done a good enough job of getting them to question everything, and then let them go. (Fingers crossed!)
Thank you for your important work, Emma. I will be following this case and hoping common sense will prevail 🙏 🙏 ❤
Best of luck, Emma! XX
What's disgusting, is the fact we got to this point!
I hope that more people stand up for this rubbish, men can't change sex, it doesn't matter what they wear
Userdi9sy7 correct. 💯%
Excellent interview - steady pace allowed the teasing out of important details, very grassroots inspiring.
Cancel your membership now, if everyone does this they will soon change the rules
I just do not understand how other real women even put up with this in the first place. Stop thinking you need to stop being polite and nice and you are not being “ trans phobic, or hateful for standing up for your rights.
I like her style. And I hope her substance blows DL Gyms out of the water
Well done Emma - I remember your original Twitter post. Will circulate this. Excellent from WRN 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Exactly the same issue at the women's pond, Hampstead Heath, London.
Good luck Emma 💜🤍💚
There's a name for 'people born male'. Why would WRN not use it?
Stonewall dictating policy against ordinary people.
Women often get dressed and undressed in open areas in ‘single sex’ changing rooms. David Lloyd and the like are eradicating this option. Very scary.
Great news!
Thanks for your work in reclaiming common sense and safety for all.
A guy I know was really proud that he and his wife had encouraged his daughters's best friend to become a boy. He was proud that he and his wife were being more supportive than the girls parents.
We all have to fight this but mostly women do as they are the ones most impacted.
wait, there are no single sex changing rooms at David Lloyd? I am not a member but they would be losing me as a customer if I was. WTF is going on in the world.
Why can’t these places have men’s women’s and trans changing rooms
Your pronouns belong to your body not your emotions!!!! Come on!! Wake up!!!
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Good for you.
fantastic woman!
great news
well done . they cant keep forcing these things into our faces . i fear going to the ladies at work and meeting a man who identifies as a woman. its awful . in fact to reword my comment , have gone into the ladies toilets at my old work and a man who had transitioned came in and i was terrified i had to leave and go to another - i knew this person as a man when i first joined the company .
Women’s restrooms are designated as a single sex restroom. Not a mixed or unisex restroom.
Does anyone know why places can not provide individual changing areas?
Great interview. Emma is inspirational, will watch her case with interest.
The best way to make a point with these woke businesses is to not go there. Probably the safest thing to do as well.
Where are the men
maybe the terms need changing, Willy free zone might do it?
Hope you win ❤
Love your pin Emma 💜
I hope you win 🏆 🙏
Good
I'm largely in agreement with the views expressed in this video, but I do think it's a little more complicated.
Imagine a biological female who has transitioned to "man" and has taken significant amounts of cross-sex hormones. This person will look like an adult man. If this person follows their biological sex, they would use a female changing room - would this be appropriate? Wouldn't it make women uncomfortable, regardless of the biological sex of the person?
Now, take one further step back. Just looking superficially, how can you tell which people are biological males who are men, and which people are biological females (who present as men)? Look at Buck Angel, for instance - if Buck walked into the female locker room, how could you tell that it was ok (because Buck is female)?
They have the option of using the "unisex" section
She looks like Trinity from The Matrix.
Karens around the world - see, this is how its done. Know your facts and use the hierarchy.
Why not just go to a different gym?
Because the gym is breaking the law and their contract with the gym user. If someone doesn’t provide a service that you’ve paid for, and are acting unlawfully, do you just go and pay someone else?
Are they defining gender presentation, as outward visible phenotype or are they referring to someone who has undergone/completed hormonal and surgical transition? Additionally the communal changing room is quite a dated concept could a solution, particularly when talking about huge commercial ventures, not be changing rooms which incorporate individual cubicles? Although, showering could still prove problematic for many. It seems as if changes are being made when infrastructure to accommodate primary preferences, beyond a sweeping generalisation isn’t provided.
I don’t think the extent of what someone has done to themselves makes it any different. What would the gym do, require proof of castration? Even then, there would still be a privacy issue and possibly still a safety one.
Individual changing cubicles don’t guarantee safety or privacy either. Young children run in and out of them, and a man claiming to be a woman could easily expose themselves/look at others through an open door or simply by standing outside the cubicles. What about moving around between entrance, showers, toilets, changing cubicles and exit?
Also, cubicles are grouped together in an enclosed space. That enclosed space should be single sex for safety. What if only one woman happens to be in that area when a man comes in?
I’m not saying trans people are all perpetrators. No one is saying all men are perpetrators, but we recognise that women need their own spaces away from men for decency, privacy and to be safe from a small minority who have bad intentions. We can’t identify which men are dangerous, and we can’t get round it by making the women stay in little boxes, so we say men are not allowed in certain spaces designated for women, and vice versa for the equivalent spaces for men. All the same things apply when it comes to men who say they identify as women.
13:45 handwashing and wearing a mask is not damaging to children. And if your hands get sore use creme.
As much as I applaud her fight against this gender crassness I oppose her views regarding that and I am saying that as a medical specialist.
The gym does provide single sex changing rooms.
Women voluntarily exclude themselves from the male changing rooms rooms - single sex changing rooms exist there!
When transmen on testosterone go back to the ladies room which you will force by law, you'll have issues with that as well. And don't tell me you can always tell!
Nope. That’s fine.
Fine with me too. In fact it’s a safety issue for them to use male spaces, especially younger women and girls who can be very vulnerable with an underdeveloped sense of risk. I think they should be with other women. Thank you for raising this important point.
Try the Davina Lloyd gym - oh wait - they don't exist!
Why is it that if an opportunity does not exist, women the do nothing to create it. So no 9one has access to this opportunity.
But as soon as men create an opportunity, women Have to have at least equal or preferential access to the it!
Why are so very few women creating opportunities for others?
Busy with the double shift. Google it
Busy raising children
So she was bothered about dry hands during a pandemic?
A pandemic NOT spread by skin contact
And a pandemic that didn't threaten children.
No, she was being critical of those policies and behaviours at institutions eg that's why her daughter's hand became sore and dry from the schools policy of hand sanitiser and excess washing
She is ridiculously middle-class.
Dont goto a unisex gym then
That’s the whole point: you have to KNOW they are unisex first
Would like to hear you say the equivalent to a trans person demanding access to a space
I never thought I would have to be armed when going in a public restroom. Now you never know what is going to in the restroom. Its no longer safe
This is easy to solve. Just have facilities for men, facilities for women, and facilities for trans.
Hope you win mate