Parkrun is Failing Females

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  • Опубліковано 18 січ 2024
  • Women's Rights Network believes that females have the right to fair competition in sport at all levels, but parkrun is failing them.
    Since 2019, parkrun's policy of self ID has meant women taking part have been disadvantaged. This video explains the impact of this unfair policy and that rather than really listen to stakeholders, some of them represented in this video, parkrun has insisted on continuing with this flawed sense of inclusion. Wake up parkrun senior management, this problem isn't going to disappear. Be courageous and do the right thing.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 79

  • @suzannepadden7201
    @suzannepadden7201 5 місяців тому +34

    Inclusion of men means exclusion of women

  • @Wendyj55
    @Wendyj55 5 місяців тому +25

    This is a brilliant video. Well explained and to the point. Keep women's park run for women only. And that means adult human beings who were born female.

  • @TRUc972
    @TRUc972 4 місяці тому +16

    I’m a male, and fully support your cause. It amazes me that if I comment on a post in support of your cause, I get called transphobic. Unfortunately women aren’t as high on the pyramid of intersectionality as trans people. I on the other hand, a straight white male am right at the bottom 😂. On a serious note, I’m disgusted with how parkrun have handled this, and for them to lie about why they have made these changes, and to not even mention the trans issue in their ‘blog’ update is appalling.

    • @ethandalton6480
      @ethandalton6480 4 місяці тому

      Tbf wanting to exclude trans people from a community activity is transphobic

  • @elliejane1459
    @elliejane1459 5 місяців тому +30

    Save Women's Sports make parkrun fair for women

    • @ethandalton6480
      @ethandalton6480 5 місяців тому +1

      Women's sport doesn't need saving, because there isn't anything threatening it

  • @laf4891
    @laf4891 5 місяців тому +18

    Thank you for speaking up for women.

  • @LucindaBrown-xr6td
    @LucindaBrown-xr6td 5 місяців тому +25

    Thank you WRN for fighting for fairness in Park Run along with everything else you fight for

  • @derekrunsagain
    @derekrunsagain 5 місяців тому +16

    Great video. Such a shame that parkrun have now taken down all the gender and age records. They were part of the fun. The answer to the problem was not this, but a simple open category for those that have issues with their birth gender.

  • @RuthLivingstone
    @RuthLivingstone 5 місяців тому +33

    Thank you WRN. It’s extraordinary that parkrun allows men to cheat by running as women.

    • @ethandalton6480
      @ethandalton6480 5 місяців тому +2

      It's extraordinary to think that someone's would go through expensive and invasive surgery just to set a record at a parkrun

    • @RuthLivingstone
      @RuthLivingstone 5 місяців тому

      No surgery is required,@@ethandalton6480. A man only has to say he identifies as a woman. 95%+ of these men have had no genital surgery and have no intention of having it.

    • @ethandalton6480
      @ethandalton6480 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@RuthLivingstonethey still take hormone blockers, which are not easy to acquire. Again, sounds like a lot of hassle just to win a parkrun

    • @RuthLivingstone
      @RuthLivingstone 4 місяці тому +5

      @@ethandalton6480 they don’t have to take anything. All they have to do is say “I identify as a woman.” This is happening in many sports. It’s grossly unfair.

    • @ethandalton6480
      @ethandalton6480 4 місяці тому +1

      @@RuthLivingstone can you please name some examples of that happening? Considering the hate that trans people receive, I'm not sure why anyone would want to suffer that just to win at sport, but if it is happening "in many sports," you should have no problem proving me wrong

  • @FemmeNatal
    @FemmeNatal 4 місяці тому +6

    Categories were invented for a reason. Protect women's sports

    • @ethandalton6480
      @ethandalton6480 4 місяці тому

      Women's sport isn't at risk

    • @FemmeNatal
      @FemmeNatal 4 місяці тому +2

      @ethandalton6480 really?? With men taking places on teams and medal boards? Lia Thomas displaced at least 5 female swimmers when she stole her title. You can fool yourself; the rest of us can see where this is going. Wise up.

    • @ethandalton6480
      @ethandalton6480 4 місяці тому

      @@FemmeNatal the same Lia Thomas who lost most of her races at that swimming gala? Yeah, really sounds like she's dominating and that women's sport is at risk

  • @RunPJs
    @RunPJs 4 місяці тому +5

    ohh dear....it seems their idea of inclusion is incredibly twisted and in fact uninclusive.
    Our society is really going bonkers!

  • @esc91
    @esc91 5 місяців тому +9

    Brilliant - their conduct on Twitter has ensured my family will never take part again.

  • @aurorasinclair9471
    @aurorasinclair9471 5 місяців тому +28

    It’s a race for men and a “fun run” for women tells you everything you need to know about how much Parkrun respect women as sportswomen and athletes. Parkrun is not being inclusive with their policy of allowing males to run as women; they are excluding women and diminishing women’s achievements. It is deeply misogynistic to allow males to compete in both male and female categories.

    • @ktwashere5637
      @ktwashere5637 5 місяців тому +6

      Was about to post the exact same thing. Women's sport is always belittled. I was a teenager in Australia and remember a local Aussie guy getting the gold medal for weight lifting. The newspaper did a four page spread of photographs. When a local woman won the gold medal in the heptathlon there was one small picture of her (admittedly on the front page) and that was it. My mother commented that the achievements of women were always treated as less.

    • @bobdown5520
      @bobdown5520 4 місяці тому

      What rubbish

  • @jeanniebrady8490
    @jeanniebrady8490 5 місяців тому +15

    Great video, proud to be pictured in it. I love parkrun, it's so sad that they have decided to disrespect half their participants while they are supposed to be increasing female participation. I find it so insulting that for us it has to be 'just for fun' but males can enjoy the competetive element if they want to.

  • @fraac
    @fraac 4 місяці тому +4

    same with older age brackets. there is no policing at parkrun - anyone can claim to be a 60 year old woman

  • @K_____
    @K_____ 4 місяці тому +4

    Always thought about getting involved with Parkrun but after this news about the records and the categories I will not go anywhere near one now. Let women run with women!

    • @John-Smlth
      @John-Smlth 4 місяці тому +1

      You do realise the recent news is Parkrun changing their policies to remove records, and appease us transphobes? Their policy moved in the way you'd want it to, they no longer exclude women, I see no reason not to attend now.

  • @garyd2448
    @garyd2448 4 місяці тому +2

    As a male that had a number of age group records as a male, I totally agree with this. If you where born male you should not be allowed to compete in the female category's.

  • @markfairbairn1769
    @markfairbairn1769 4 місяці тому +2

    What an absolute mess, a total unmitigated disaster! I don’t have an answer however the response thus far is also far from ideal.

  • @bettybray5366
    @bettybray5366 5 місяців тому +8

    Great video. Hopefully such a clear explanation of how parkrun are excluding women from their own category will make them feel less comfortable about their position.

  • @MrDazmad
    @MrDazmad 5 місяців тому +14

    Well done WRN. Boycott parkrun until they change their mind.

  • @nickdorey940
    @nickdorey940 4 місяці тому +2

    Brilliant video. Spot on!

  • @carolmcguffie4641
    @carolmcguffie4641 5 місяців тому +7

    No males in womens sport.

  • @WiltshireHare
    @WiltshireHare 5 місяців тому +7

    💯

  • @johnjaap1691
    @johnjaap1691 5 місяців тому +3

    On a point of practicality - how do you think that parkrun should check age and sex?

    • @jeanniebrady8490
      @jeanniebrady8490 5 місяців тому +7

      parkrun just need a fair policy. We rely on mutual respect, community spirit and social norms to do the right thing. If there are occasions when policy is violated, parkrun can intervene with individual cases as they already do for other policy violations.

    • @pennydee
      @pennydee 5 місяців тому +6

      With their eyes.

    • @user-xs1yx9tc9m
      @user-xs1yx9tc9m 5 місяців тому

      In some sports (eg. boxing ) there are weight categories. Are there ever any arguments over how weight is measured ? Can someone declare their own weight ? 🤔( I'm not too knowledgeable on the science, but would some thing along the lines of body mass index be of use ? 🤔

    • @user-xs1yx9tc9m
      @user-xs1yx9tc9m 5 місяців тому

      Possibly .I'm exploring all different possibilities so I don't have any solid ideas yet. I noted the height and weight of 'a certain' runner in international athletics, who ran in the female category, was 175cm tall and weighed 70kg. I compared that to a top female runner who ran the same distance (800m) who was the same height, but weighed 60kg. I was 'just wondering' if the 70kg runner lost 10kg , how that would affect their performance ? I'm just 'running' through a few ideas, and I will have to give the subject more study ! @@icannaewatchthisvid

    • @user-xs1yx9tc9m
      @user-xs1yx9tc9m 5 місяців тому

      I sent a reply to your question, but I can't see it here. Where's it gone ?🤔@@icannaewatchthisvid

  • @ktwashere5637
    @ktwashere5637 5 місяців тому +10

    Has anyone else noticed that Kemi Badenoch is always standing up for women. She needs to be Prime Minister.

  • @olvxskaf1501
    @olvxskaf1501 5 місяців тому +6

    Great video by the WRN

  • @ktwashere5637
    @ktwashere5637 5 місяців тому +7

    why can't sporting bodies just have a trans category in the paralympics.

    • @user-xs1yx9tc9m
      @user-xs1yx9tc9m 5 місяців тому

      I suppose it would depend if someone would be 'willing' to go in the category that they're told to go in ! If they've decided that they don't want to go in the 'male' category, they may not want to go in the 'trans' either. 🤔

    • @ethandalton6480
      @ethandalton6480 5 місяців тому +2

      Because being trans isn't a disability. But also there aren't enough trans athletes who compete at an elite level to form a category.

  • @don_d4255
    @don_d4255 4 місяці тому +4

    In Canada, there are trans-women in volleyball, rugby, and believe it or not a 50 year old trans-woman identifying as a 13 year old female and competing in their 13-16 year old swimming competitions. See REBEL NEWS. Thankfully, there are some in the UK who are coming against this ludicrous practice. Women for women, I say. Thank God for all of you.

  • @peterbrown216
    @peterbrown216 4 місяці тому

    Bring back the records and add a trans category.

  • @tomrunner3908
    @tomrunner3908 3 місяці тому

    My mom is upset of this discriminations against women's my mom gets beatent by other males who are transgender

  • @user-xs1yx9tc9m
    @user-xs1yx9tc9m 5 місяців тому +4

    I think they should scrap results altogether ! 'parkrun is not a race ! It is a run with friends !' This is how parkrun is promoted. That's how it should be, for fun and fitness. Everyone could still set off at the same time and cross the finish line at the end. Anyone interested in their time can time it themselves, as many people do, and display their performance on Strava etc. Participants could still have their bar codes scanned and have their name published, in no particular order, to show their participation.🙂

    • @leighlampley1178
      @leighlampley1178 5 місяців тому +2

      Totally agree - a much better solution that takes pressure of those who want to actually run for fun without feeling pressured to race

    • @davegb99
      @davegb99 5 місяців тому +4

      Or women could start their own event with their own rules.
      People are always looking for ways to change things. It is not a competition. The results are there largely so that individuals can see how they progress and not everyone has or wants a stopwatch.

    • @user-xs1yx9tc9m
      @user-xs1yx9tc9m 5 місяців тому +1

      @@davegb99 parkrun HQ is always looking for ways to change too. The name 'parkrun' replaced the previous one, 'UK Time Trials'. And the way they keep using the words 'The Feel Good Movement', they may be about to change again ! 'Tail Runner' has become 'Tail Walker'. Walking 'parkrun' is in ! When I started, 'Unknown' runners had there times displayed in the results. etc. I would agree with you about starting a new event. That's a good idea ! 👍

  • @ethandalton6480
    @ethandalton6480 5 місяців тому +2

    16 age course records across 1200+ parkruns is an incredibly small percentage.
    Parkrun hasn't failed females. What you meant to say is that parkrun has failed transphobes.

    • @ethandalton6480
      @ethandalton6480 5 місяців тому +1

      @@sm7Vx an adult human female

    • @ethandalton6480
      @ethandalton6480 5 місяців тому

      ​​@@sm7Vxso women who are in menopause, or who have had their ovaries removed, are not females?

    • @melbromley929
      @melbromley929 4 місяці тому

      ​@ethandalton6480 female is the egg bearers of a species. Regardless if those functions work or not.

    • @SoorAurora
      @SoorAurora 4 місяці тому +2

      How many women have to be denied their accomplishment before it matters to you? 10%? 25%? Half? And then what, when the proportion finally meets your threshold?

    • @ethandalton6480
      @ethandalton6480 4 місяці тому

      @@SoorAurora about 0.0001% of records are currently held by transgender women

  • @gidgiddoni9919
    @gidgiddoni9919 4 місяці тому +1

    Great job ruining Parkrun for everyone.

    • @SoorAurora
      @SoorAurora 4 місяці тому +1

      Parkrun could've followed British Cycling and other sporting orgs y establishing Open and Female categories. Women are not responsible for the choices made by parkrun.

  • @xcskidog6937
    @xcskidog6937 4 місяці тому +2

    Get a life. Who cares about records ?

  • @MenChallengingSexism
    @MenChallengingSexism 5 місяців тому +9

    Thanks for your continued pressure on Parkrun to ensure fairness for female athletes!! Brilliant video and action at Sale. Wish we could have supported you.