Ultimate Turnbuckle UPGRADE MOD - Arrma 6S Kraton / Talion / Notorious / Outcast
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MOD UPDATE!
Instead of using the classic or stock front outer turnbuckle end (like i did in the vid, which is threaded for 4mm and you have to force it over the 5mm rear rod).
If you look in your extra parts bag, given to you by arrma when you purchase the truck, they actually provide a canted or slightly curved beefy rod end that is threaded for 5mm. Its not used anywhere in the stock load out... and I'm surprised I missed bringing it up in my video, but you can use it, and its threaded for 5mm.
Just make sure that the distance from end to end (using the rear turnbuckle rod in the front, is the same length that your current (classic) turn buckle assembly is. On my Kraton, and what the video shows, I believe it's 135mm. this will provide the tanky rod ends AND the tank rod for the front. hope that all makes sense... let me know.
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Where can we get these now that lunsford are out of business?
While it was nice that lunsford had a titanium variant, keep in mind the only benefit to theirs was simply a few ounces of weight savings (if that) compared to the stock metal rear turnbuckles. Strength wise, the stock rod is the same strength just very slightly heavier. Ultimately what I'm saying is, go ahead and pick up the EXB rear classic turnbuckles and you will still be taking full advantage of this upgrade modification. Also be sure to watch this quick tip that came out later regarding this MOD.
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Hey East Tactics. It's hard to underestimate how useful all of your videos are for newbies like myself. I own pre-owned Arrma Outcast 6S and Arrma Senton 550 Mega. The Outcast model is on the tech maintenance right now because I don't have enough knowledge of how to fix it on my own. With your help and guidance, people like me can start their maintenance and upgrades with no hassle.
Awesome brother I love to hear that! Yeah with a cold season I haven’t been dropping very many videos. But I plan to start dropping more when things start turning up. Thanks for watching my stuff I really appreciate it
You have been by far the most knowledgeable.
Thank you dude
I appreciate that... keep an eye out for more good vids to start dropping when the weather start warming up.
oh... if your planning to run this mod, be sure to watch this video real quick.
ua-cam.com/video/uvRRYCtR4Co/v-deo.html
So glad you got the v4 and upgrading with the videos, I have the v4 aswell and you put out alot of good info and explain it well. So it's easier to follow. Best info on UA-cam imo! Plus getting back to your followers is a plus 👌
Awesome brother, I really appreciate the compliment. If you ever need anything let me know
Great video!!! Much needed advice on beefing up my Kraton's turnbuckles. Thank you!
maan those lunsford's are sooooo beast. i have them on my 6Cast. on another note, man this is some detailed content, so detailed it felt like you were lookin' over my shoulder about 3 months ago. those buttstop marks on the underpart, whatever you called that part, i kept trying to figure out what the hell it was. My servo failed shortly after and when i put the new one in, that's when i was all, "duhhhhhhh". great content, mister!
Thanks Rogue!!
Love these mod videos!
Your the man when it comes to the Kraton arrma 6s line up, new sub here for best diy and mods videos keep it up love your vids
Thanks brother!!!
Bad ass channel love it I knowvits a old video but still worth the lesson I lurnd a lot from this video thanks I will be doing this on my S8
This video is great -- exactly what i needed
Awesome video love the mods
Good to have beefcake turn buckles but l have never broken one and it is a rare case that l know of
I have my titanium still in the box they came with for over a year😁
Keep them mods coming bro✌
Will do!! 💪
I’ve broken like 6 in a year. But I go pretty hard
Awesome video man I want to be able to figure out how to do something similar with my big rock
Great vid with useful content lands again 👍👌👍
Anyone would think you had done this before 😂😂
IMO the bendy RPM arms are what cause extra stress on the turnbuckles and axle shafts. The V5 arms are super tough to eliminate that extra stress. I like RPM wing mounts because they bend, but I'm not so sure it's a good thing in the arms.
Sweet turnbuckles! I ordered some!
That actually makes sense, I actually have a set of these define rear and front a arms on standby. Ordered me a new rear shock tower as well. Just needs brakes some stuff first before they get out on.
Glad you watched the video and picked up a set!!
Are the stock V5 arms as durable as the RPM ones?
Freaking gold man 🤩 thanks 🙏
Great stuff - hats off to all the great work you've done making these trucks better and sharing that with the community! As for the turnbuckles - do you re-purpose the 4mm lundsford fronts and put them on the rear of the truck?
No I keep the rear 5 mm. The 4 mm unused Fronts are Second string back ups for the front.
Thanks for the compliment brother!
I gotta try this
That's a great mod. 👍
Thx Tony!!
Yo man shout out @east tactics for always stepping up The gamev like fr
Thx Nick!! 😝😎👍
Yea Lunsford was nice I have them on my og losi 8t RACE truggy. As for my question I'm trying to find hardware for the eyelets on the turn buckle that the screw go's in to fasten to the nuckle. On my trucks I can put long screw all way threw an put washer an nut on it. Washer hardware from popping out an or the screw being able to work its way out. for my son's karton
Bro love this hi r u keeping bro hope ur all well thanks again bro for sharing this
Love the content. Did I overlook the link for the springs? I am going nuts tying to find some. 12 lbs is perfect for my needs.
Well I was going to drop a new vid and relay the details (links) after I do some testing.
On paper, they are 12lbs springs, but since they are longer then stock spring, they may still have the same impact as 18lb springs.
... I see you emailed me... will be in touch 😎
I’m not sure if it’s going to be any stronger on the front... you are making up the difference in length with plastic instead of steel. I’m very interested in seeing how it works out after some abuse👍. Love your vids tgough
I’ve never seen or heard of anybody break them at the plastic. But your point is valid. Will keep you updated. Thanks for watching
Love it man just went through three tie rods in the last few bashes and had some of the old rears kicking on a parts truck.. did the mod now time to test!! How has this mod worked for you so far??
Been great! Haven’t broken one since. Course haven’t had to gnarly of a landing yet either. But I definitely can tell it stronger
@@EastTactics awesome I was seriously starting to get frustrated haha
I know this is old but you're wrong about strength.. I hit my titanium exhaust with a sledge hammer and it didn't even make a mark
Are you running the Hot Racings rear hubs as well? How do you like the steering block and the rear hubs? I am still running the stock composite ones but not sure why I would need to upgrade at all right now.
I still run the stock hubs in the rear. I just haven't had any issues with them and agree no need to upgrade those just yet. they do come with a lot of slop however so I highly recommend watching this video to address that.
ua-cam.com/video/GD10n3zfAxk/v-deo.html
As far as the front hot racing hubs go... they are amazing, Hands down a must upgrade from stock in my opinion. Don't have to worry about the balls popping out now. But I agree you might as well wait to upgrade them until you have issue.
Just broke a turnbuckle on my Outcast EXB and someone recommend these. Only problem I see, is that the composite rod end can still break. Which in my case, is what actually broke. Not the turnbuckle itself.
I have a solution for you, can you find and message me on Facebook.
Follow the instructions on this mod idea, use the rear turnbuckle rod, and the inner rear beefy composite rod end (for the front inner).
Now...Instead of using the classic or stock front outer turnbuckle end (like i did in the vid, which is threaded for 4mm and you have to force it over the 5mm rear rod).
If you look in your extra parts bag, given to you by arrma when you purchase the truck, they actually provide a canted or slightly curved beefy rod end that is threaded for 5mm. Its not used anywhere in the stock load out... and I'm surprised I missed bringing it up in my video, but you can use it, and its threaded for 5mm.
Just make sure that the distance from end to end (using the rear turnbuckle rod in the front, is the same length that your current (classic) turn buckle assembly is. On my Kraton, and what the video shows, I believe it's 135mm. this will provide the tanky rod ends AND the tank rod for the front. hope that all makes sense... let me know.
When does the next video come out I need to order some springs for my truck the ones on amain are back ordered and they are only 8.6 lb
Real soon, however I did drop the information early for those who felt like digging a little bit. Check the description on my last video. Scroll down a bit and you’ll see all the details about the springs and links for where to order them. Let me know if you have any trouble. Here’s the video I’m referring to;
ua-cam.com/video/FTyxuJ47pm8/v-deo.html
I need to kno how to take it apart first
I don’t see the link for the springs. I have two exbs but I don’t like the springs.
Those were the same exact ones I got
The turn bickle
You get a thicker plastic also
Hey East Tactics, I broke my turnubuckles tonight at the skatepark, your video are SOOO helpful man! I clicked on the Lunsford link and they sadly retired there business.....I was like . . . . NO!!!!!!!! Do you have any other suggestions for stronger turnbuckles? would GREATLY appreciate any Leads or suggestions......I watch ALOT of your videos, you are like my GO TO guy? please help 👍🏽✌🏽
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You can just go with the EXB rear turnbuckle rods they work to. Be sure to watch this quick tip too.
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@@EastTactics ok sounds good appreciate it. I was just looking for somethings heavy duty lol
Actually, the rear turnbuckles steel versus titanium are the same heavy duty strength. The rear buckles are 5 mm. It’s just titanium is a little bit lighter that’s all pretty in significantly lighter to.
@@EastTactics oh ok good to know. Thanks for sharing your knowledge much appreciated! 👊🏽
@@EastTactics I got them. They are thicker too than the front turnbuckles. Thnx man
Some of the rod ends on my exb have some slack in them. Looking for options on how to remove it.
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Since Lunsford is gone, do I get the exb rear aluminum for the front and just do what u did on the video right ?
Yes
@@EastTacticsyeah I ended up doing it but the exb is just to big for the front it ended up trying to go through the plastic mid way lol
What do you call the blocks on the end of the turnbuckles? The stell turnbuckle is good on my v5 but one of the blocks is broken and I need to get another one but idk the name of the part. Thanks in advance
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Turnbuckle rod ends
Sort of a tough one to get an official name on because you can’t buy them separately. You can only buy them in a kit.
Where can I just purchase the plastic tie rod ends for the 6s kraton exb can’t find anywhere
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What is the best after market turnbuckle to get for a Arrma Senton 3s 4x4 BLX.
honestly - regarding 3rd party specifically for the senton, nothing looks promising imo. I'd stick with the stock ones.
Lunsford is over the top quality! Does anybody know a distributor for lunsford in Europe?? It seems ruddog could be one, but they don't have the Kraton turnbuckles. Btw, Great Video again! Superb explanation!
Thx Michael😎👍
So with the rid ends covering the threads , are they still less prone to breaking , even if you still use the 4mm Lunsford rod in the front ?
Yes, I would say that the Lunsford design is better even if you use the 4 mm rod ends in the front. Because that common breakpoint on the stock version does happen on those threads, which technically are even less than 4 mm thickness. Since the Lunsford replace that brake point with an actual 4 mm piece of material. So your Lunsford 4 mm rod ends are going to be stronger by a slight amount.
@@EastTactics interesting, I have been eying these sense before I got my v5 kraton. I wish they just did all four in 5mm so you don't not use a pair of expensive rods, or buy two sets , now to have four your not gonna use. Guess I'm gonna order them and figure it out later. Thank you for your replay and video
Any updates on this? I like the idea but I don't really like how there is more plastic in this design. 1mm thicker Ti but then 5mm extra plastic bit on the end. How has it been holding up? Maybe we should source some +5mm Ti pieces for ultimate upgrade!
It's working great, the only thing that I would do differently if you were to do this tactic. Is instead of drilling out the hole in the rod end to accommodate for the 5 mm shaft. Don't bother drilling it out. Simply force the 5 mm shaft into the 4 mm hole. This retains a bit of strength in the plastic. But yeah it's been working great
@@EastTactics Good tip. I broke my turnbuckle today if that wasn't obvious :). Sheared my Talion EXB RTR rod right at the start of the tread. I'm looking into this upgrade. I found a 5x95mm Steel or Titanium part that might try. Leaning towards the steel because I'm more of a basher and don't care about the few grams. Really appreciate your videos and tips! Cheers! Check out the parts: HB Racing D817T 5x95mm Titanium Turnbuckle HBS204407 or Tekno RC ET48 2.0 5x95mm Turnbuckle TKR9451
I set my front rod Length to 135mm and they were super toed in on my V5. Set em out to 137mm and much better. Do the earlier versions have different front geometry?
I don’t think so. For a basher you do want the rear section of front tire to be slightly (not super) toed in, and opposite on the back. An over exaggerated way to remember how you want your front and rear camber and toe to look from staring straight down top view of your vehicle is an hourglass⏳. At least that’s how I like to remember it.
I’m not sure what you’re aiming for though, are you more of a basher or a speed runner?
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@@EastTactics basher. When I set them to 135mm they were like 4/5* toe in. At 137mm more like 1/2*
I have the EXB turnbuckles landing in mailbox today so I’m gonna change em. I have the integy rears. With 137mm I get the perfect hourglass/Toe
Question. Tracking. With the slight amount of toe out it’s going to eventually start to wonder down track vs running straight as an arrow but corner super well correct?
That’s the idea and focus for the basher yes.
@@EastTactics awesome! Appreciate all the help and guidance man. I often play your videos when working on em lol.
Thanks Kyle, happy to help😎
Do u still use that exc
Or is it called the esc
I have a 40mm fan mount that fits on the power hobby heatsink and i would like to send you 1. I cant find any dm function so if interested dm me or reply to this.
I’d love it, email me at randyeast80@gmail.com and we can pass the details
did you really call Lunsford "off brand"? Lol They.ve been making the best turnbuckles available for like 30 years,,,
I guess you’re right, I really didn’t mean it as an insult though... I meant to just basically imply that they are not the stock part. I hope that my video as a whole gives a vibe that I wholeheartedly promote Lunsford’s quality turnbuckles.
@@EastTactics Love your videos overall, and have learned quite a few things from them. Still a fan, I was just surprised by that comment. I thought maybe you were new to the hobby. Either way though, you're a great resource for Kraton owners. I've found the shim and diff info especially invaluable and see people referencing your work online. Keep doing a great job!
Thanks josh... Appreciate it