I’ve chosen to release my film on UA-cam. Not do I have full control of release but people don’t realize UA-cam has the biggest market share right now. Just my opinion
I released one of my feature films on UA-cam via my own channel. Didn’t result in much, although it’s also a strange film. Are you releasing yours via your own channel or on a channel dedicated to feature films? What methods do you use to promote it?
Run from Filmhub, iv had the worst experience ever. Truth be told I kinda chose them after watching many videos like this, that are very informative and helpful nonetheless. But, my experience was a complete disaster. I spent three years making a great feature film that qualified for the 2023 Academy awards. I had done amazing marketing and advertising producing including traction. After 3 months they paid me $2:35 and would not provide any data, they are not transparent in anyway and lied endlessly.
Yeah, from my experience, Filmhub doesn't do anything shady, it's just that you're not gonna get the numbers you need to make and substantial returns. Unless you're making multiple splashy and niche microbudget films a year and marketing yourself...it's best to go with sales agent and seek traditional deals or to sell directly to fans. Filmhub basically just gets you onto big channels that pay pennies per view, and unless you're getting thousands or millions of views per month, it's not worth it.
I've seen another filmmaker on UA-cam showing his Filmhub revenue and his revenue ranged from pennies to the dollar up until the first 6 months to about $300 after that. Problem is, the major distributors also lie and don't report enough to you. Check out Jeff Deverett's interviews with Film Courage talking about how he got $75 from a movie he made and then he paid to audit the distributor and he found out hundreds of thousands unpaid to him that he never got a report on.
Film hub is horrible for buyers . I recently had an issue with them as a buyer who looks to licence FilmHub is a no go . Film makers should run away from FilmHub
This video was posted when Vuulr was still in business. I don't know of any company that's come around since then to take it's place. It went under most likely because it's too easy to take business off the platform, everyone just used it like social media and then made their deals privately to avoid paying Vuulr's fee. Vuular was free aside from the fees they took from deals. I think competitors will have the same problem. It was good while it lasted.
Thanks for the info!!! I’m posting my first feature film now. Any idea about indie rights? It seems similar to filmhub but I don’t know which is better
Indie Rights is technically a distributor, so they actually add your film to their catalogue and shop it around at various film markets, and I believe almost everything in their catalogue gets onto Amazon, Tubi, and TVOD platforms like Apple TV. However, they don't accept everything - such as my foreign content. But a good person to follow on UA-cam (if you haven't already) is J Horton, he has lots of positive experience with Indie Rights.
@@indiecomicempire oh ya. I definitely follow him. He’s probably the only one that has done a filmhub vs indie rights but it was super in-depth. Seems like most people just say they’re both good just a little different. Indie rights will put you on their UA-cam channel which is monetized. That’s cool. My channel isn’t monetized so I’m hesitant to put it on it.
I haven't personally dealt with Quiver, but I think Quiver essentially charges a fee to put your films onto certain TVOD platforms like Apple TV & Amazon and it can be a $1k+ fee for these services. When it comes to TVOD, it's probably a solid company, but if you're looking to sell AVOD, Vuulr and Filmhub are better. But I'd have to do more research.
No. I think Filmhub has pretty much taken over that space. However, film markets are now having online viewings, so you don’t have to go to the markets in person or pay a big of a fee, you can add your title to their online catalogue. Maybe I’ll make a video highlighting them. I know Cannes is now doing that, various platforms like Stage32 are having online “film summits”, and most big film markets worldwide, I know Film Bazaar for sure, maybe American Film Market too, have options to add your film to their “viewing room” catalogue for a period of time.
For me, two primary methods depending on how big of a company you deliver to. Either they give you the link to their own internal platform to upload to, or they'll send you a link to shared drive where you'll upload all the information they need (full film, trailer, meta data, posters, etc.). Or youll use a big file transfer application like WeTransfer to send them all the files they need. They'll almost always send you a document that details everything they need and they'll just expect you to cover the costs to send it to them because transferring files as big as HD feature films takes hour or even days to upload and download, can't just be done by email.
How important is to upload captions, music cue sheets and image releases in order to get picked up? I know it's not mandatory but how much does it help in getting your movie picked up by the streamers?
Captions are required for every streamer I've worked with. Music que sheets aren't required for most streamers. Every streamer also needs posters that are sized in at least 5 different formats: square, 2x3, 3x4, 16:9, and I think 9:16. And in addition to that you'll need posters with and without "dressings" meaning, with the title logo only, and another with all the other credits, tagline, etc.
True. Although I downloaded the technical specs required for Netflix and made efforts to pass those. I figured if I could pass those, I could pass general QC for everything else.
So I’ve heard! Shoulda known. Everybody just connected there and then made their own private deals without vuulr to avoid commissions. The same way people bypass paying FIverr and other sites. And a subscription model probably wouldn’t have made them enough to profit.
It was a private solo sales agent who formerly worked for a big distributor in India known as Zee5. I found him because he basically a friend of a friend, worked closely with other filmmakers I worked with. Essentially the deal was he took a percentage of whatever sales he helmed. Worth it in the end because he found buyers and bargained for higher amounts than I could have.
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Very informative. Thank you!
Awesome, thank you!
Thank you! That was very useful.
Thank you, awesome!
I’ve chosen to release my film on UA-cam. Not do I have full control of release but people don’t realize UA-cam has the biggest market share right now. Just my opinion
I released one of my feature films on UA-cam via my own channel. Didn’t result in much, although it’s also a strange film. Are you releasing yours via your own channel or on a channel dedicated to feature films? What methods do you use to promote it?
@@indiecomicempire my own channel since it’s already monetized and dedicated to filmmaking .
following... thank you for sharing
Awesome thank you!
Run from Filmhub, iv had the worst experience ever. Truth be told I kinda chose them after watching many videos like this, that are very informative and helpful nonetheless. But, my experience was a complete disaster. I spent three years making a great feature film that qualified for the 2023 Academy awards. I had done amazing marketing and advertising producing including traction. After 3 months they paid me $2:35 and would not provide any data, they are not transparent in anyway and lied endlessly.
Yeah, from my experience, Filmhub doesn't do anything shady, it's just that you're not gonna get the numbers you need to make and substantial returns. Unless you're making multiple splashy and niche microbudget films a year and marketing yourself...it's best to go with sales agent and seek traditional deals or to sell directly to fans. Filmhub basically just gets you onto big channels that pay pennies per view, and unless you're getting thousands or millions of views per month, it's not worth it.
I've seen another filmmaker on UA-cam showing his Filmhub revenue and his revenue ranged from pennies to the dollar up until the first 6 months to about $300 after that. Problem is, the major distributors also lie and don't report enough to you. Check out Jeff Deverett's interviews with Film Courage talking about how he got $75 from a movie he made and then he paid to audit the distributor and he found out hundreds of thousands unpaid to him that he never got a report on.
Film hub is horrible for buyers . I recently had an issue with them as a buyer who looks to licence FilmHub is a no go . Film makers should run away from FilmHub
Vuulr closed in 2021...
This video was posted when Vuulr was still in business. I don't know of any company that's come around since then to take it's place. It went under most likely because it's too easy to take business off the platform, everyone just used it like social media and then made their deals privately to avoid paying Vuulr's fee. Vuular was free aside from the fees they took from deals. I think competitors will have the same problem. It was good while it lasted.
Thanks for the info!!! I’m posting my first feature film now. Any idea about indie rights? It seems similar to filmhub but I don’t know which is better
Indie Rights is technically a distributor, so they actually add your film to their catalogue and shop it around at various film markets, and I believe almost everything in their catalogue gets onto Amazon, Tubi, and TVOD platforms like Apple TV. However, they don't accept everything - such as my foreign content. But a good person to follow on UA-cam (if you haven't already) is J Horton, he has lots of positive experience with Indie Rights.
@@indiecomicempire oh ya. I definitely follow him. He’s probably the only one that has done a filmhub vs indie rights but it was super in-depth. Seems like most people just say they’re both good just a little different. Indie rights will put you on their UA-cam channel which is monetized. That’s cool. My channel isn’t monetized so I’m hesitant to put it on it.
Good video. How do you compare these 2 platforms with Quivver?
I haven't personally dealt with Quiver, but I think Quiver essentially charges a fee to put your films onto certain TVOD platforms like Apple TV & Amazon and it can be a $1k+ fee for these services. When it comes to TVOD, it's probably a solid company, but if you're looking to sell AVOD, Vuulr and Filmhub are better. But I'd have to do more research.
Do you presently know of any other options aside from filmhub now that Vuulr is permanently closed?
No. I think Filmhub has pretty much taken over that space. However, film markets are now having online viewings, so you don’t have to go to the markets in person or pay a big of a fee, you can add your title to their online catalogue. Maybe I’ll make a video highlighting them. I know Cannes is now doing that, various platforms like Stage32 are having online “film summits”, and most big film markets worldwide, I know Film Bazaar for sure, maybe American Film Market too, have options to add your film to their “viewing room” catalogue for a period of time.
How do you deliver your film to a buyer after a deal is closed? (Sending the the film to them)
For me, two primary methods depending on how big of a company you deliver to. Either they give you the link to their own internal platform to upload to, or they'll send you a link to shared drive where you'll upload all the information they need (full film, trailer, meta data, posters, etc.). Or youll use a big file transfer application like WeTransfer to send them all the files they need. They'll almost always send you a document that details everything they need and they'll just expect you to cover the costs to send it to them because transferring files as big as HD feature films takes hour or even days to upload and download, can't just be done by email.
How important is to upload captions, music cue sheets and image releases in order to get picked up? I know it's not mandatory but how much does it help in getting your movie picked up by the streamers?
Captions are required for every streamer I've worked with. Music que sheets aren't required for most streamers. Every streamer also needs posters that are sized in at least 5 different formats: square, 2x3, 3x4, 16:9, and I think 9:16. And in addition to that you'll need posters with and without "dressings" meaning, with the title logo only, and another with all the other credits, tagline, etc.
@@indiecomicempireFilmhub doesn't want any extra text anymore. Only the film title or they reject it.
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Whats the name of the film?
Halfpace
Who is your sales agent?
DM me on Insta/Twitter @lordmaxhoven and I'll share.
Not free anymore.
What’s not free anymore?
Uploading is easy. Passing QC isn't easy.
True. Although I downloaded the technical specs required for Netflix and made efforts to pass those. I figured if I could pass those, I could pass general QC for everything else.
@@indiecomicempireSmart. My brother got on Filmhub and is using their QC model for his next film with a different distributor.
I think Vuulr is no longer in business.
That would make sense. There haven't been any new buyers in months. But the site is still active for those who are already on the platform.
Vuular is out of business!
So I’ve heard! Shoulda known. Everybody just connected there and then made their own private deals without vuulr to avoid commissions. The same way people bypass paying FIverr and other sites. And a subscription model probably wouldn’t have made them enough to profit.
@@indiecomicempire Yep! Filmhub is all us independent filmmakers have! I just hope they don't screw up!
Could you please tell us the sales agent who got you the deals and the terms you had to accept?
It was a private solo sales agent who formerly worked for a big distributor in India known as Zee5. I found him because he basically a friend of a friend, worked closely with other filmmakers I worked with. Essentially the deal was he took a percentage of whatever sales he helmed. Worth it in the end because he found buyers and bargained for higher amounts than I could have.
Name please 🙏
@@MoonFuStudio Umesh Chhabria, focused specifically on the Hindi film markets.
Very informative, thank you!
Awesome thank you!