Confronting Christian Zionism Webinar (2/11/2021)

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 27 гру 2024

КОМЕНТАРІ • 140

  • @bsusie1
    @bsusie1 Рік тому +58

    My heart is so heavy because of the lies taught by Scofield, Darby and others. May the Father open the eyes of our hearts to know truth.

    • @rapier1954
      @rapier1954 Рік тому

      You can always side with the Lutherans like this man who has a different eschatology than Dispensationalism when it comes to these matters, not unlike Roman Catholics and other Catholics, Anglicans, Methodists etc. The problem is as someone who does not belong to any Christian denomination all these theological theories can be weaponized politically. Martin Luther was a virulent anti-Semite and so were many in the various Catholic type of denominations in Europe much of what they preached against the Jews inspired the Nazis who even quoted Luther. Hitler and Goebbels were RCs and never excommunicated by the church, numerous other Nazi higher-ups belonged to the same denomination as the man in this video condemning others. The problem with singling out Dispensationalism as the problem is there are Dispensationalists on both sides of the problem John Hagee takes bits and pieces of Dispensationalism and is a Christian Zionist while Rick Wiles is a religious leader who is a DIspensationalist who is a virulent anti-Semite but George W Bush and the Clintons all belong to a denomination that is against Dispensationalism yet they are all avid supporters of the pro-Zionists who run Israel and have come out against a ceasefire in Gaza. The one underlying thing they all have in common is supporting the colonial white supremacist agenda in Israel which is the same one that has led to the formation of the USA at the expense of the Native Americans only in the case of Israel they are ceasing territory at the expense of the Palestinian people.

    • @sikeajax
      @sikeajax Рік тому

      Anti Zionism is anti Jewish prophecy …

    • @rolandscales9380
      @rolandscales9380 Рік тому

      To be fair, I don't think that they thought that they were lying. They lived in an age when very few people could second-guess the needs and aspirations of foreigners living an entire continent away. It's easy to be wise after the event.

    • @rolandscales9380
      @rolandscales9380 Рік тому +4

      For my part, I stopped taking dispensationalist theology seriously because all the glosses and expositions I had read (especially Hal Lindsay and Lance Lambert) and the speakers that I heard, put forward a ludicrously mangled understanding of history. It dawned on me that Plymouth Brethren with history degrees were as rare as hen's teeth. As far as I was concerned, it was yet another theological model among many, and its textual basis in the Bible struck me as weak.

    • @sikeajax
      @sikeajax Рік тому

      @@rolandscales9380 ”Also I will restore the captivity of My people Israel, And they will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them; They will also plant vineyards and drink their wine, And make gardens and eat their fruit. I will also plant them on their land, And they will not again be rooted out from their land Which I have given them,” Says the Lord your God.“
      ‭‭Amos‬ ‭9‬:‭14‬-‭15‬ ‭m
      just read what Zechariah 12-14 or Jeremiah 31: 35-37 literally says, Romans 11/ revelations 12 . Israel is all over scripture as it relates to the Jews. And it’s their land forever to lose or regain. And the Jews will be there at the end in Jerusalem.
      Scoffield is a red herring. Even if a drunk homosexual murdering thief said to read what the Bible says .. it would be correct. Its theologically weak to not take the Bible for what it says and reality for what it is.

  • @susieharmon2229
    @susieharmon2229 Рік тому +12

    So very important. ESSENTIAL information. Absolutely critical TODAY!!!!! 101:30

  • @peteherberg1705
    @peteherberg1705 3 роки тому +17

    This has been a very informative webinar on this subject. It is good to hear the other side of the story.

  • @truthistreason4292
    @truthistreason4292 Рік тому +18

    Isn't zionist jew and zionist Christian an oxymoron?

    • @MACTEP_CHOB
      @MACTEP_CHOB Рік тому +4

      Indeed, it may seem, but I guess we have to specify more deeply now.

  • @emmaaudu3461
    @emmaaudu3461 Рік тому +17

    The moment I see pronouns after your name "Rev", I can't take you serious. One of those false teachers that like to tell people what their itching ears want to hear according to Paul's letter to Timothy.

  • @sonofsoweto
    @sonofsoweto Рік тому +7

    Why did the good reverend see it important to add "he/his" in his title?

  • @yoyo5050
    @yoyo5050 Рік тому +11

    At this point sensitivity goes out the window! The “who” question has to be addressed! Who are the biblical Jews? Are the current batch of individuals in Israel direct descendants of the Jews of the Bible?

    • @fabiolahook8877
      @fabiolahook8877 Рік тому +6

      No. At least not the Ashkenazis...
      Abraham lived like a Bedouin.
      He was uncircumcised when God established a covenant with him. He mixed milk and meat!

    • @bernadettelowe-fortson251
      @bernadettelowe-fortson251 Рік тому +7

      Read Deuteronomy chapters 28 - 32 and you will see where the true descendants are located. Then you will know the truth. Peace and Blessings.

    • @edhieeeee3
      @edhieeeee3 Рік тому

      Yes they ate

    • @rolandscales9380
      @rolandscales9380 Рік тому +4

      The Ashkenazic Jews, who would appear to be largely descended from Khazar proselytes from the Caucasus region, hold the whip hand in the state of Israel. They dominate the indigenous "Arab" Jews, and Jews from Syria, India, Iran and various parts of Africa, who have different languages, theological models and cultural practices.

    • @MIKEMIKE-te2dt
      @MIKEMIKE-te2dt Рік тому

      Israel's "Right of Return" law excludes DNA evidence of Hebrew ancestry, because it would clear out Israel. The overwhelming majority of Israelis are of Khazar ancestry.

  • @moalllivesmatter
    @moalllivesmatter 8 місяців тому +2

    Thank you soooooooo much for this video. I found this channel by accident and it absolutely answered all my questions about the 'artificial' state of israel that just didn't fit into Christianity.... I visited israel on Christian pilgrimage and I came back as an atheist.... both my parents are pastors and israel killed everything Christian inside of me because I couldn't believe a set of race could kill with such impunity with many Christians cheering it along.
    On my return, I began to research and found Christian zionist, then plots it to black Christians and boommmmm Christian zionist came all crashing down on me.....
    I've been marching and standing with #Palestinians since 2018 after my trip to israel and couldn't for the life of me continue to be a Christian knowing this charade is a all lies....
    #FreePalestine ❤

    • @gulamm1
      @gulamm1 7 місяців тому

      I have suggestion for you. Get a copy of Quran, study and think about becoming Muslim.

  • @Elizabeth77755
    @Elizabeth77755 Рік тому +5

    Very good video.

  • @whoglows
    @whoglows Рік тому +2

    we have 3000 years gap here! in these 30 centuries did the Israelites descendants convert to other religions? did non jews convert to Judaism? do all contemporary jews have hebrew blood ? how many modern non jews have hebrew blood and do they compromise the majority or the minority of them?

    • @lizesus
      @lizesus 7 місяців тому

      Ashkenazi jews are 97% of the jews in Israel. They do not necessarily have any bloodline ties to Abraham, whereas the Palestinians actually do.

  • @yeshuasaves2314
    @yeshuasaves2314 Рік тому +2

    Ojibwe here, mixed after Generations of course now, like many in America. ❤

  • @Ded_Silu
    @Ded_Silu Рік тому +9

    Regardless of where we live, let’s just get along with each other. No two human beings are exactly the same. Let’s celebrate each other!

  • @drewmurdaugh6264
    @drewmurdaugh6264 Рік тому +12

    Really buddy you have preferred pronouns? I don't trust anyone who is that woke??/

    • @user295295
      @user295295 Рік тому +2

      Exaclty. Also makes me wonder what a "transition pastor" is.

  • @vcbrittney4072
    @vcbrittney4072 Рік тому +25

    As a Christian you are buying into this pronoun nonsense? SMH

    • @Elizabeth77755
      @Elizabeth77755 Рік тому +1

      Good point.

    • @lochinvar5589
      @lochinvar5589 Рік тому +1

      first thing I saw and hurt his presentation

    • @ricfax
      @ricfax Рік тому +2

      Card players call that a "tell."

  • @asitis9402
    @asitis9402 Рік тому

    Thanks, your testimony helps me a lot

  • @cleft_3000
    @cleft_3000 Рік тому +1

    It was very rude for the moderator to cut in, twice, on a person who’s studied this issue for 35 years! Then being dismissive with the answer. I was interested on what he had to say.

  • @MichaelJoe-iu9vv
    @MichaelJoe-iu9vv Рік тому +3

    What is he talking about when he talks about trans and indigenous people. I know what indigenous people are. But was he referring to when he says trans a.k.a. transsexual???

  • @rashidkaddoura708
    @rashidkaddoura708 Рік тому +1

    FYI. The Palestinian Muslims say bless Israel (the grand son of the Abraham). But not Bless the State of Israel. These Present Israelis are not on the foot of the Real Israel the Prophet. The Palestinian Muslim belive and Accept Jesus is the Christ ( The messiah) the present Israelis in Majority don't accept Jesus is the Christ ( The Messiah)

  • @shadetreader
    @shadetreader Рік тому +3

    Your community needs to do something about the hateful comments....

  • @georgiadim5333
    @georgiadim5333 Рік тому +6

    (Hebrews 13:14) For here we do not have an enduring city, but we are looking for the city that is to come.))
    (1 Corinthians 2:9) But as it is written: Eye has not seen, nor ear heard nor have entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for those who love Him))
    Brothers and sisters in Christ, wrong interpretation of the scriptures has caused so much soul destructive confusion in the minds and hearts of many who seek The Truth!
    Brothers and sisters in Christ CALL UPON the merciful Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ to protect you from false paths and to lead you to eternal salvation!
    Brothers and sisters in Christ continuously pray with your lips, mind and heart the following short prayer: LORD JESUS CHRIST HAVE MERCY UPON ME THE SINNER...
    (John 14:6) Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth and the life...)

  • @lochinvar5589
    @lochinvar5589 Рік тому +9

    lose the woke his, him

  • @rebecadiaz7005
    @rebecadiaz7005 Рік тому

    What is biblical the land that God gave to Israelites?
    Isn’t Galaad

  • @mohamedratel4977
    @mohamedratel4977 Рік тому +6

    God is not a Real State Agent.

  • @christalone71
    @christalone71 Рік тому +1

    What's with the he/his pronouns??? Okay, I was going to listen until I saw that. WOKE.

  • @nancy6487
    @nancy6487 Рік тому +1

    Couldn’t listen to any more justification for wrong thinking ….

  • @ScottHindle-qv6mq
    @ScottHindle-qv6mq Рік тому +1

    If you are a real Christians you will have to confront these christian liars in heaven. Better you than me!

  • @Age_of_Magpie
    @Age_of_Magpie 8 місяців тому

    +

  • @MateoGuinoo-li9xc
    @MateoGuinoo-li9xc Рік тому

    Shotup

  • @honahwikeepa2115
    @honahwikeepa2115 Рік тому +2

    God bless you brother ✋🙏

  • @sikeajax
    @sikeajax Рік тому +3

    The regathering of Jews that will be in control of Jerusalem is literal and biblical. God uses secular atheistic people and leaders all the time to fulfill prophecy ie Darius, Cyrus, or Herod and Pilate etc

  • @dallasbrat81
    @dallasbrat81 Рік тому +1

    All this talk of Christian Zionism is pointless. There are 9 million Jews, Muslims and Christians living in Israel in relative peace with another. Its a beautiful place and home to 3 religions it must be protected

    • @yeshuasaves2314
      @yeshuasaves2314 Рік тому +1

      And then you keep an open air Prison, and destroy a Whole Population of People to Force Prophecy, ...?....that is Now a Full on Genocide.

    • @yeshuasaves2314
      @yeshuasaves2314 Рік тому +2

      Not Peaceful. Its Disturbing.

    • @U2Brrr
      @U2Brrr Рік тому

      Dallasbrat81 Are you on crack? There's NO peace with Jews persecuting Christians and Muslims there and elsewhere in the name of supremacist bloodline.

    • @MACTEP_CHOB
      @MACTEP_CHOB Рік тому +4

      They USED to live in peace. Not after Z guys came in.

    • @deborahdean8867
      @deborahdean8867 Рік тому

      Palestinians wouldn't agree. There is no peace in or around israel.

  • @johnmirth7161
    @johnmirth7161 Рік тому

    THIS IS A KID F R

  • @chickapeas5646
    @chickapeas5646 Рік тому +1

    I’m not a Zionist but, we may should revisit Zev. 2, Jeremiah 30, Isaiah 12. I believe we will see the Jews saved by Jesus. This is in the Word of God and gently I say, sounds like the wrong side of history to stand with Palestines.

    • @debracampbell9727
      @debracampbell9727 Рік тому

      Have you seen the slaughter thats occurring by Israel ??? Their fruit is spoiled !!! Sorry for you. May God open your eyes !!!

    • @MsGyzy
      @MsGyzy Рік тому +2

      We don't need to stand anyone's side but the truth!
      We are all human beings. it doesn't matter the religion or skin colour!

    • @chickapeas5646
      @chickapeas5646 Рік тому +1

      @@MsGyzy That’s right! We should always stand on truth! What was done to those Peace loving people on Oct. 7 was pure evil and hate. I could not raise my children beside a people that teach hate and death to their children. A hatred and desire to kill my own, in the most savage of ways. I raise my children in love and teach them to love their neighbor, as themselves.

    • @yeshuasaves2314
      @yeshuasaves2314 Рік тому

      I Pray for the Palestinians. This must stop. No one has the right to indiscriminately Mow down anyone with Bombs, gunfire, cutting off water, food, electricity, and medical aid. This has been the MOST Disgusting thing this World has had to Watch .... a Wicked Act of Murder and Genocide to an unarmed Civilians. People who do this to to others ARE animals.

    • @deborahdean8867
      @deborahdean8867 Рік тому

      Saved by jesus like everybody is saved by jesus .

  • @christinetranchell7833
    @christinetranchell7833 Рік тому +3

    I am a Christian Zionist. My father was 100% Ashkenazi. My ethnic DNA includes the Levant. Now, Hitler certainly knew who we Jews were, but it seems you dont. The colonists of israel were the Romans in 70AD. We have had a continous presence in Israel 3000 years. If you want to know who inherits the land you can look in Psalm 105:7. The Arab people are the descendants of Essau,Edom and Ishmael. The are loved of God,but the land of Israel was Given to Jacob.
    The palestinians were invited to live along side of the Jews. 160,000 stayed and are now 2 million. BTW, the Arabs were called Palestinians as well as the Jews between 1921-1948 under the British mandate..
    Jesus was and is a Jew. In Matt 25 he says as you have done it to the least of my brothers you have done it unto me. Who do you think he was talking about? There were only Jews and pagans.
    If you want Justice,why are there no Jews in Bethlehem today?

    • @deborahdean8867
      @deborahdean8867 Рік тому +1

      Personally, I don't give a flying rip who the 'real' jews are. For one, ashkenazi is European DNA...... not saying anything about your DNA ...... but 70% of the jews in Israel have EUROPEAN DNA. So most of them lose their own argument about their ancestors EVER living there. And all sane people know it doesn't matter one iota where anybody's ancestors lived 3000 years ago. It's ridiculous. Why? Because when you die, you kiss your property and all your worldly possessions goodbye . Ownership is entirely dependent on the inheritor. If you lost your grip on your inheritance 3,000 freaking years ago, you have no claim. Either the living hold onto it by your direct inheritance , or whoever gets it, it legally belongs to them. Dead people have no claim to rights of possession. Once you're dead, it becomes the property of the living no matter who they are. Secondly, and most importantly, there IS no viable excuse to steal from and oppress someone else because of your race or religion from the past. And because of this, Europe, the rest of the world has to worry about ww3, and die for your 3,000 year old delusion about property rights. Their attitude is getting other people killed. Netanyahu has declared that, should the state of Israel become threatened.....NOT the jews, NOT the people, the state government......he is going to unload ALL his nukes on the rest of the world and take us all out with his temper tantrum. People like that are disarmed and committed to a mental institution for treatment in the normal world. And it'll probably happen to Israel too IF the world decides to be merciful. Sometimes people like that meet their end by the hand of the police who are there to protect the innocent. Nobody appreciates being threatened because of your so called definition of jew or Israel. And nobody is going to stand around while they pull off ANOTHER holocaust. Nobody cares what people call themselves when they rob, kill and abuse others. It's the most insane and stupid idea the world has had to listen to since the nazis. Odd how Zionism and nazism are twins, but they're both nationalist political movements so. ...... and shame on a bunch of people who have the Torah and the prophets and cant handle a situation of neighbors according to God's law. Especially when they go around bragging about how smart and special they are. Gods law tells you that if you treat others unjustly, hate will be your and your children's neighbor. Gods law says thou shalt not steal. And that's another thing, who has such disregard for the lives of their grandchildren and great grandchildren?. Making enemies as fast as they can so their kids can die in the feud they make? Or maybe just get maimed by a bomb? Bottom line, it doesn't matter who they are or what their history is, they came as European foreigners robbing people of their homes and farms. Homes they bought with their own good money legal in every sense of the word. In case anybody didnt get the point from God's law and word, stealing is wrong and carries CURSES. Any possession of the land , or ANY type blessing, is ONLY under the covenant of obedience. I dont think I have ever seen a people so confused and unstable. And dangerous. Maybe it is a mental deficiency instead of a superiority. Because even in the face of logic and God's law, STILL they insist on absurd reasonings. People will do that however, when they know they can get away with whatever they want, then they must face reality and go through alot of suffering to become enlightened. Absurd, ridiculous, and just like the nazi belief, will probably meet the same end. Istael has made itself the worst neighbor to the rest of the world, and her allies can expect to be called friend, and abandoned in their hour of need.

    • @molly2frodo222
      @molly2frodo222 8 місяців тому

      But how many of us are actually 100% any one race

  • @Nwrx
    @Nwrx Рік тому

    So u say that u believe in the waybu believe because of isrealies way

  • @JaguerRhye
    @JaguerRhye 7 місяців тому

    I'm over 15 minutes into this video and I've heard 0 scriptures expounded. That's typical for anti Zionists though.
    "it is unethical to theologize about the god-ordained existence or non-existence of another people or community of faith." Can you provide a scripture basis for this?
    The people of Israel are a chosen race / family of people who are beloved by God because of his promises to the patriarchs.
    Amos 3:2 You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.
    Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
    “Thus says the LORD, Who gives the sun for a light by day, The ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night, Who disturbs the sea, And its waves roar (The LORD of hosts is His name): “If those ordinances depart From before Me,” says the LORD, “Then the seed of Israel shall also cease From being a nation before Me forever.” Thus says the LORD: “If heaven above can be measured, And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel For all that they have done,” says the LORD.” (Jeremiah 31:35-37)
    God favors the race of Israel and will preserve them forever. The only reason the descendants of Jacob exist today is because God favors them.

  • @Nwrx
    @Nwrx Рік тому

    No it wouldn't collapse

  • @Nwrx
    @Nwrx Рік тому +2

    Dude jews on isreal have their roots more in Europe nit all of UT in Palestine, thst real life these Palestinians have no fault to these jews relatives being in Europe

    • @jacobprasch8236
      @jacobprasch8236 Рік тому

      The Bible does not lie. Anthropology does not lie. History does not lie. Mitochondrial DNA does not lie. And Archaeology does not lie. But you do.

  • @Nwrx
    @Nwrx Рік тому +2

    Isreal get out

  • @AthanasiaOrtholady
    @AthanasiaOrtholady Рік тому

    Still not an Orthodox???