Rebels Shoot Down Ukrainian Military Plane: Russian Roulette (Dispatch 59)

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    Weeks into the separatists' siege of Luhansk airport, the Ukrainian military attempts a risky plan to lift the siege and resupply their stranded comrades. Although the bid to break through rebel lines is successful, it comes at a heavy price; the following morning, rebel forces celebrate their kills.
    And just three days before Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 is shot down over eastern Ukraine, rebel forces shoot down a Ukrainian military transport plane. VICE News arrives at the still-smoldering crash site as locals pick through wreckage looking for souvenirs to keep and scrap metal to sell.
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  • @Sphynra
    @Sphynra 10 років тому +824

    *Ukrainian Air Force plane gets shot down*
    Rebels: "Yeah! Suck on that! Slava novorussiya!" -takes selfie with wreckage
    *Malaysian airliner gets shot down*
    Rebels: "What?! We don't even have technology to shoot down jets that high!"

    • @xXPuNkRoCkRulesXx
      @xXPuNkRoCkRulesXx 10 років тому +92

      Funny these Russian hillbilly rebels can't even differentiate a fucking civilian plane and a military aircraft. You'd think Putin would be smarter to give such a powerful weapon to people who at least have brains.

    • @Sphynra
      @Sphynra 10 років тому +28

      xXPuNkRoCkRulesXx
      Rebels have looted a lot of equipment from military bases captured in the early stages of the war and from defector units, that's where all of their armor and artillery comes from

    • @BloodstainedSinner
      @BloodstainedSinner 10 років тому +29

      xXPuNkRoCkRulesXx Putin is a dumb fuck, like 90% of the emotionally-charged morons that call themselves "Russians". What would you expect from someone like him?

    • @alexsh69
      @alexsh69 10 років тому +14

      You're too stupid.
      In civil and military aircraft different ranges of heights. Su-25 attack at low altitude, the same civil fly very high. MANPADS can not reach them.

    • @alexsh69
      @alexsh69 10 років тому +7

      xXPuNkRoCkRulesXx Rebels greater smarter than you.
      Unlike you, they understand a lot in the military

  • @MrFightArmy
    @MrFightArmy 10 років тому +207

    All jokes aside... RIP to these people who died on this plane may peace be with them!

  • @benjaamin8
    @benjaamin8 10 років тому +147

    "My wife died" And that friends is how the circle of violence continues.

  • @Stuwickednes
    @Stuwickednes 10 років тому +288

    its a bit disrespectful to be posing next to the wing

    • @jurex81
      @jurex81 5 років тому +2

      provokatziya!

    • @Isphanian
      @Isphanian 5 років тому +19

      And it's criminal to bomb civilians.

    • @billnyethebdsmguy7335
      @billnyethebdsmguy7335 4 роки тому +25

      @@Isphanian it wasnt a bomber, it was a transport plane

    • @34monkeygrits
      @34monkeygrits 4 роки тому +9

      @@billnyethebdsmguy7335 Hes referring to the apartment building bombed by Ukrainian military plane.

    • @Pentazemin44
      @Pentazemin44 4 роки тому +10

      You expect this part of the world to understand respect and othet simple human things? Think again

  • @asheshinfinite3766
    @asheshinfinite3766 5 років тому +106

    Who takes a smiling photo in front of a just downed tail of a plane with human dead bodies littered around and burning? Man, this place is f.....d up! 😱

    • @user-od3ce2xw3p
      @user-od3ce2xw3p 2 роки тому +6

      I know and now nato weapons being handed to anyone in ukraine when who knows whats really going on 😱

    • @user-wy2fu4un8r
      @user-wy2fu4un8r 2 роки тому +7

      @@user-od3ce2xw3p we all know what’s going on. You watch the news or have social media?

    • @deadeyecpt.7765
      @deadeyecpt.7765 Рік тому

      We had people taking pictures with the wreackage of the Costa Concordia here in Italy for months before it was removed. The bodies of some of the dead passengers were still missing at the time.

    • @user-od3ce2xw3p
      @user-od3ce2xw3p Рік тому

      @@casper6014 you do realize you are replying to a 7 month old comment right? Can you remember how these weapons in ukraine were being distributed at that time? Also if NATO or usa don't hand out weapons to anyone do you know how al queda were armed with stinger missiles? Oh and pakistans weapons and many other suposed terrorist organisations?

    • @RenanMendes-zd8hj
      @RenanMendes-zd8hj 4 місяці тому

      The Ukrainians since 2022?

  • @HelloMrK
    @HelloMrK 10 років тому +61

    RIP to that man's wife and I hope a speedy recovery for his son. :/

  • @swagaliciousnessss1291
    @swagaliciousnessss1291 10 років тому +136

    I'm confused about the ending... The apartment was blown up by a Ukrainian bomb, but he said that apartment was a few blocks away from a rebel base. Perhaps the Ukrainians were trying to hit the base, but missed. Bombs aren't very accurate, and if you have a base close to civilians, you can't blame your opponent for there death. You should've put the base elsewhere. I'm not saying the Ukrainians were justified for attempting to bomb it, they're still at fault, but it's also the rebels fault too.

    • @donetski7324
      @donetski7324 10 років тому +26

      Buddy, no offence but in a giant city there's no where to go where civilians will not be near. Also that base is about 5-7 blocks from the base, that's pretty hard to be so incompetent to miss by 7 blocks!

    • @DaInsano
      @DaInsano 10 років тому +15

      ***** Artillery shooting at this range can miss its target by a few kilometers.

    • @siobhan-rae
      @siobhan-rae 3 роки тому +29

      isn’t that a taliban tactic? making sure to set your base near schools or hospitals so that you can’t be attacked by air strikes without civilian casualties thus escalating the violence further.

    • @pavloskoropadsky1448
      @pavloskoropadsky1448 3 роки тому +27

      @@siobhan-rae Yeah, a taliban tactic.
      Ukrainians call this an Anti-Terrorist Operation for a reason. And the reason is to stop Russian financed and supported terrorism in their very own country.

    • @furiousdestroyer2.050
      @furiousdestroyer2.050 2 роки тому +2

      @@donetski7324 Not all bombs are guided and some bombs are very very very explosive and can easily wipe out 5 to 7 blocks just look at World War II bombing accuracy you could have the best targeting system available and you could still miss

  • @Stuwickednes
    @Stuwickednes 10 років тому +145

    god these rebels don't have any remorse for what they have done stood there with smug faces

    • @alasha161
      @alasha161 10 років тому +11

      If you saw your children getting blown to pieces would you careabout soldier's that are responsible for it ?

    • @joea9200
      @joea9200 9 років тому +5

      Cameron H Yes you're right, they just looted their pockets at MH17.

    • @Rspsand07
      @Rspsand07 6 років тому +11

      Why would they have remorse for stopping the dude invading & bombing their city? Are you brain dead?

    • @wannabe_Hacker
      @wannabe_Hacker 3 роки тому +10

      The rebels are scums for sure. If you like russia so much then go back to fkn moscow. Don't destroy a county's sovreignty for GOD's sake.

  • @pimpinspartan
    @pimpinspartan 10 років тому +316

    Very soon the DNR (self proclaimed) will have to pay for all of this

    • @macewindujedii
      @macewindujedii 10 років тому +36

      fuck you

    • @theangrychairman
      @theangrychairman 10 років тому +79

      macewindujedii
      fuck you again

    • @macewindujedii
      @macewindujedii 10 років тому +24

      Kree, Jaffa! fuck you again again

    • @Ronin34rus
      @Ronin34rus 10 років тому +37

      Will they have to pay for what? The only thing they wanted is some independence (federalization) and human-rights. That was not even separatism at the start of it all.

    • @pimpinspartan
      @pimpinspartan 10 років тому +75

      Саня Нежель
      lol this is what Russian tv teaches you, good job little sheep

  • @DETSRC313
    @DETSRC313 10 років тому +16

    Side note, but important.
    In my opinion, this has to be the
    "best UA-cam video series" here by Vice that has ever been made/presented since the birth of such technology as UA-cam.
    Being that in almost real-time, daily videos of actual "history in the making" can be viewed by a guy from Detroit, Michigan, USA, me. And how I'm able to follow such information through these videos that it makes one feel so invested and informed on this "history in the making" that's happening on the other side of the world is incredible.
    It's a beautiful thing how far us humans have come.
    PS. Thank you Vice for making that happen.

    • @mostlyright5384
      @mostlyright5384 Рік тому

      I’ve binged watched the whole thing. Some episodes twice. Greetings from Wisconsin

  • @ykp_ickpa
    @ykp_ickpa 10 років тому +121

    За что боролись, на то и напоролись.
    Второго "Крыма" не будет.
    Большая часть украинцев высказала свое мнение и никакие маргиналы не в праве решать вопросы об отделении части украинской земли, да ещё и опираясь на страну финансирующую терроризм (Россию).
    Славянск, Артемовск уже освобожден от рашистского быдла, пришла гуманитарная помощь от украинской армии.
    Вывод один, там где украинская армия там мир и спокойствие! Где так называемые пророссийские "ополченцы" убийства, похищение и минометные обстрелы, которые сами же террористы и устраивают дабы показать картинку для российских и зарубежных сми, что они уже опробовали в Грузии 2008 г.

    • @wolf777ish
      @wolf777ish 10 років тому +17

      Иван Сидоров фашисткий диктатор это вовчик путтлер

    • @xanthespace5141
      @xanthespace5141 10 років тому +4

      Nord West Да вы тут все на Ютубе ебанулись. И там с промытыми мозгами, и в России тоже таких вся страна почти.

    • @ykp_ickpa
      @ykp_ickpa 10 років тому +8

      Иван Сидоров Да пусть проводят что хотят, это никого не интересует, кучка маргиналов под российским руководством не в праве решать вопросы территориальной целостности Украины. Если не нравится, собирай манатки и уматывай в Россию, а не решай за всю Украину об отделении её территории в пользу другого государства.
      И про какую "фашистскую диктатуру" ты говоришь, диктатура только в ДНР и ЛНР, где похищают, пытают людей. Где за украинское слово или стяг сажают в подвал и мучают. В Киеве, Днепропетровске, Харькове всё спокойно, люди живут себе. Так где ж там "фашистская диктатура"?

    • @ykp_ickpa
      @ykp_ickpa 10 років тому +7

      Лех Боханский Клоун, называть украинских военных на украинской земле "боевиками" может либо путиносос на зарплате, либо люмпен с промытым пропагандой мозгом.
      Слышать про "ситуацию в Крыму" от российского уйла просто спешно. Обычные аля "Крым наш" либо не замечают, либо поддерживают нападение российских "козаков" на украинскую церковь в Крыму, назвав её притоном "правого сектора" (это ж каким ебутым нужно быть, чтоб такое выдумать). Или когда проводят обыски в домах крымских татар, которые есть коренное население Крыма, в отличии от россиян. Украинцы всегда жили в мире что с россиянами, что с татарами. Вот только у россиян ко всем притензии.
      "Украине дали возможность уйти без крови" ? А разве не марионетка Янукович подписал договор на продление базирования ЧФРФ в Крыму? Который этот Крым потом и окупировал. Разве не он разрушал украинскую армию сокоращая и не финансируя её? В замен снабжал мусоров, которые стреляли в украинцев в собственной стране. Разве не эти мусора сбежали потом в Крым, а Янукович в Россию? Всё это время украинское государство было просочено чиновниками, которые работали на развал страны и присоединения её к России (коммунисты, партия регионов), а когда народ прогнал их с украинской земли ценой собственной крови, Россия ударила "ножем в спину" в тот момент, когда Украина была ослаблена. Окуппировала часть украинской территории.

    • @ykp_ickpa
      @ykp_ickpa 10 років тому +2

      Разве не боевики, которым Россия поставляет оружие сбили гражданский самолет с детьми? Ты скажешь, что украинская армия во всем виновата, но просто пшел ты на ху...
      Этому есть множество доказательств, фото, видео, фиксация спутниками. Весь мир говорит о том, что сбили его российские сепаратисты. Даже рос. "Стрелок" Гиркин опизд..лился когда запостил новости, про сбитый самолет, которую потом спешно удалил, когда сообразил. что сбили гражданский самолет с детьми летевшими на отдых.

  • @chipchipperson101
    @chipchipperson101 10 років тому +20

    If I had a dollar for every person that confuses this plane with the Malaysian flight...

  • @eugenechudakov2200
    @eugenechudakov2200 10 років тому +18

    VICE News, thank you for showing how it really is without any propaganda and lies. Translation is accurate as well. Respect to you.

  • @cgallegos2106
    @cgallegos2106 10 років тому +146

    What a bunch of nice gentlemen those pro-Russian soldiers where, politely asking the Ukrainians to leave their own country to a bunch of Russian volunteers.
    Oh and mentioning their friends as well, what nice "freedom" fighters they are.
    Also, Slava Ukrania!

    • @strokedriedrie
      @strokedriedrie 5 років тому +5

      You shouldn't forget that ''Ukraine'' used to be Russian, today a split Country in pro Motherland Russia and by EU and US helpt separate Ukraine from Russia, that day they were the separatists, after separated from Russia, the people who did want to stay at Motherland Russia, became for Ukraine the separatists.
      What if you as republican life in California and the democrats got loose from the US in a separated state California, what would you do?

    • @airracer28
      @airracer28 5 років тому +1

      @@strokedriedrie that's funny you think conservatives actually care about California. Most would be happy to see those fuckers leave the union

    • @illyausyk9051
      @illyausyk9051 5 років тому +1

      did you forget that a Ukrainian Zar build your your capital @@strokedriedrie

    • @leilanala
      @leilanala 5 років тому

      @@illyausyk9051 Nope! It was Zar Peter the Great (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_the_Great) who 'CAME' to Holland in the seventeenth century to learn, Amsterdam is founded around the year 1000, but there were already houses as far back as 4600 y ago. Zar Peter the Great was the RUSSIAN Zar from 7 May 1682 - 8 February 1725. Many Russian words are from Holland (Stóel, vál, appélsín, trap, artisjók, abrikós, pérsik, matrás, brandspójt, achtersjtéven) as there are many Dutch words in the US language like the Dollar, it's from the Dutch Daalder. The Dutch Reign around the world for many centuries.

    • @HarpoonB2
      @HarpoonB2 10 місяців тому

      @@strokedriedrie Ukraine was never russian. It was part of old Soviet union..........and the other crap your saying about the west being to blame for all Russia's bad things is just a way for you to sleep at night instead of facing the fact that russians or as we know now rashists are the scum of the human race.

  • @timm2020
    @timm2020 10 років тому +12

    It is so sad when you see the lives lost.
    Like that man who lost his wife.
    No matter who is fighting who the innocent people in it all is sad.
    We all need to pray for these people on both sides.

    • @aaroncantu5763
      @aaroncantu5763 2 роки тому

      No we don’t Putin’s a pig and is creating these issues and needs to be shown a lesson

    • @OneAdam12Adam
      @OneAdam12Adam Рік тому

      Don't pray for the Russians. They're evil troublemakers

  • @TBrays1315
    @TBrays1315 10 років тому +11

    Why were people posing in front of the plane

    • @JblobGaming
      @JblobGaming 10 років тому +3

      It's not the MH17 plane it was a military "escort" of sorts

  • @donallbreathnach9998
    @donallbreathnach9998 10 років тому +155

    Keep fighting hero's of novorusyia. I send my condolences to the passengers of Malaysia airlines. Weather it was shot down accendetly by ukranians or accidently by self-defence forces, it was an ACCIDENT, and no war is ever fought without accidental civilian casualties.R.I.P. America and ukraine have both shot down multiple civilian aircraft accendetly in the past, e.g Ukraine shot down a Russian airline in 2001 and America shot down an Iranian passenger plane in the past also. Nobody got pissed off at them, so nobody should be bitching about Russia, especially if they dont even know who shot down the plane. Slava novorusyia!

    • @Pidorastyan
      @Pidorastyan 10 років тому +161

      what is novorusyia?? some kind of russian jihad allah akbar hamas mutallab?

    • @sethrogen949
      @sethrogen949 10 років тому +115

      Slava Ukraina!Down to the people who hide behind civilians and shoot down civilian airplanes.

    • @EWillard44
      @EWillard44 10 років тому +110

      The only problem is, is that you don't care that they shot down a civilian plane. People were mad when the US shot down flight 265 and the United States agreed to pay Iran US$131.8 million in settlement. In this case, Pro Russians are DENYING that they did it. Putin and russia are fucking evil.

    • @EWillard44
      @EWillard44 10 років тому +35

      ***** And even then, America at least provided compensation and unofficially apologized for having a fucking crazy general who went insane and killed a bunch of innocents. But ALL of these russians are crazy unlike the Americans.

    • @kirillbogdanov6093
      @kirillbogdanov6093 10 років тому

      *keep sucking stupid animal =))*

  • @samwalk4386
    @samwalk4386 10 років тому +3

    That's sick. Who takes a picture where a plane crashed and there are human bodies?

  • @the.truthDZ
    @the.truthDZ Рік тому +2

    The clips that this journalist is presenting are far better than those of Simon
    Simon is so biased

  • @FullMetalOstrich
    @FullMetalOstrich 10 років тому +21

    So if they like Russia so much, why not Immigrate? If I wished the US was more/exactly like Canada, I'd move on up there; not bitch about how the US ain't Canada, & then demand secession & subsequent war :P

    • @DaBomber6969
      @DaBomber6969 10 років тому +6

      They are too primitive too abandon their "land."

    • @-Andrey-Korolev-
      @-Andrey-Korolev- 10 років тому

      Da Bomb Это не примитивность,это патриотизм.

    • @HerrLehmann0xcc
      @HerrLehmann0xcc 10 років тому +2

      So what would you do, if Russia started a violent revolution in your state, with molotov cocktails, corrupt elections, false flag scandals and all that shit. Then they take over the government, call Stalin their Hero and ask you to remove any connection to the USA?
      I am sure some people in your state would want to fight those Russians, right?
      You might find those people, who will join you and together you split from the Russian part of the state.
      Now if the Russian side was electing their first official President, who as a first move sent out American tanks to kill those who decided to stick with the US (you), what would you do?
      What would you think, if someone told you: 'So if they like the USA so much, why not Immigrate?'
      It sounds a little strange, doesn't it? I think you would have every right to claim the land you were living on, but that's just my opinion.

    • @DG0398
      @DG0398 10 років тому +2

      Bitch please! You know you wish that you were as amazing as us...

    • @gazdeb80
      @gazdeb80 5 років тому +4

      That area in Eastern Ukraine.
      Has only belonged to Ukraine for like 64 years or less.
      The rest of the time that area and land round to Odessa use to be Russian.
      Was only gifted to Ukraine after Stalin died.

  • @abedekok5660
    @abedekok5660 10 років тому +21

    The idiots at 1:07 kind of remind me of the three stooges, don't know why they just do.

    • @shauntemplar.26
      @shauntemplar.26 3 роки тому +1

      hopefully these inbred DNR fuckers, well, there all rotting in some field

  • @NRH111
    @NRH111 5 років тому +3

    2:26 indisputable proof that an AK will pretty much handle whatever happens. if dude kept smacking that thing a few more times im sure they could have gotten it to work lol

  • @usajagfan
    @usajagfan 10 років тому +2

    Its a shame Vice is always at least 48 hours behind the breaking stories. Going to be interesting to see Simons coverage of the passenger plane.

  • @Hyperllam4
    @Hyperllam4 10 років тому +1

    lol at the bomb expert in the end

  • @TheBatteking
    @TheBatteking 10 років тому +9

    people READ the TITLE

    • @nApucco
      @nApucco 10 років тому +1

      This is a video. If I wanted to read, I would have bought a book. ಠ_ಠ

  • @macewindujedii
    @macewindujedii 10 років тому +31

    Do rebels and Russia had no reason to shoot down the plane.

    • @theangrychairman
      @theangrychairman 10 років тому +50

      I guess the plane shot it self.

    • @JusticeEmu
      @JusticeEmu 10 років тому +8

      Ukrainian planes were bombing them! It would certainly be in the rebel's best interest to shoot it down.

    • @SovietButcher
      @SovietButcher 10 років тому +7

      English! Do you speak it?!

    • @schlafanzyk
      @schlafanzyk 10 років тому +1

      ... or the more likely scenario: They are, and support, incompetent mouth-breathers in charge of highly advanced war technology that could start WW3 if used carelessly. Thank FUCKING GOD (the one that doesn't exist ofc) that was not an American or British plane, but one from the same airline that was so incompetent, it just completely lost a full jetliner before.

    • @ramsaybolton2839
      @ramsaybolton2839 10 років тому +1

      It doesn't matter who's interest it was in. 51 other planes flew through the area on that day, mh17 was unlucky. If the rebels did it, which they probably did, it was down to incompetence.

  • @24pavlo
    @24pavlo 3 роки тому +9

    It's not rebels or separatists. It's Russian military who shot down MH17

  • @DaniyalZeX7
    @DaniyalZeX7 10 років тому +6

    #FREEDONETSK #FREELUHANSK #FREEDOM

    • @alexaurelian8024
      @alexaurelian8024 10 років тому +7

      Ok, thats it I've have had enough of this fake Republic of Donetsk and Republic of Luhansk fanfare, because they aren't even actual countries; that would require people to choose it. The people of those regions never voted, they woke up one morning to find people attacking government buildings and carrying guns. You know what the actual people of the 'Republics' are doing? They are hiding in their homes terrified, and fearing for their families as bombs are being dropped on them from both sides. These people never wanted this, they didn't want 'independence' they just wanted to go about there lives. Now all they are doing is waiting for the rebels to leave or be pushed out so they can go back to living again. These aren't false claims, I have friends in Donetsk and I have been told whats really been happening since the beginning. Stop worshiping things know nothing, about besides the propaganda you read. Pray it ends soon, so no more innocents can die.

    • @GasMaskMetabasis
      @GasMaskMetabasis 10 років тому +5

      What are you saying? That's Ukraine's territory. They deserve to get it back.

    • @swedish992
      @swedish992 10 років тому +4

      Yeah let´s everyone form their own "republic" that will be great....
      just because Russia took over crimea, the thought "hey that went easy lets join russia too!" i dont care if they have lived there all their life, if they love Russia so much why DON`T THEY MOVE THERE!!!!

  • @a13x916
    @a13x916 10 років тому +25

    Investigation has not been completed, but VICE already knows who shot down the plane. Very well done!

  • @humptydumpty762
    @humptydumpty762 10 років тому +4

    Whether your mind has already been made up on this issue or not please ask yourselves these questions.
    Who stands to gain politically from this shootdown?
    Who stands to lose?
    Who is trying to capitalize from this?
    What forces in the area actually had the capability to shoot down an aircraft at 30,000 feet?
    Who has targeted civilians in this area during this conflict?
    Why did Ukrainian air traffic control direct the aircraft over a war zone?

  • @t0011tt42
    @t0011tt42 10 років тому +1

    Bravo. The real truth.

  • @Multi10009
    @Multi10009 10 років тому +1

    Hopefully the investigations are quickly conducted and actually independent.

  • @jibbyjam1
    @jibbyjam1 10 років тому +3

    Shit. I didn't even know this stuff was going on. Thanks, Vice.

  • @jmantime
    @jmantime 10 років тому +80

    Syria 2.0 - Ukraine : site of the new " U.S vs Russia " proxy war

    • @jmantime
      @jmantime 10 років тому +16

      ***** keep telling your self that , they thought the same thing in Syria

    • @JusticeEmu
      @JusticeEmu 10 років тому

      jmantime Do you realize the conflict in Ukraine started around the same time as the Syrian civil war?

    • @gimliofdurin
      @gimliofdurin 10 років тому +6

      ***** Well, since we live in a global economy, it will affect you somehow economically.

    • @MsTbsd
      @MsTbsd 10 років тому +10

      Ye its definitly not a ukrainr vs russia because russia invading ukraine automatically means russia vs usa. Proxy-dumbshit.

    • @arturskvortsov4903
      @arturskvortsov4903 10 років тому +12

      JusticeEmu
      hahaahaha Syrian civil war started back in 2011, the turning point in conflict started a bit earlier half of the year before the Ukrainian crysis.

  • @Davidn1
    @Davidn1 10 років тому +1

    First thing I see : "Oh, let me just take a picture by this wreckage", some people are just weird!

  • @terratremuit4757
    @terratremuit4757 10 років тому

    Holy hell dispatch 59...

  • @RaphaelSloanYusukeUrimeshi
    @RaphaelSloanYusukeUrimeshi 10 років тому +4

    Why is all this destruction and death not enough for people to wake up and understand that we are all together on this tiny planet and there is zero need to raise your hand to another human being.

    • @buhaiovvyacheslav
      @buhaiovvyacheslav 10 років тому +1

      So better live like Putin slaves in poor,corrupted country but in peace? No! Ukrainans just enough for that

    • @RaphaelSloanYusukeUrimeshi
      @RaphaelSloanYusukeUrimeshi 10 років тому +1

      ***** Stereotypes are fun, but how about actually getting to know me "friend"?

  • @ben70542
    @ben70542 10 років тому +7

    Prima facia the Ukraine government forces are the prime suspects. The colours of Malaysian airlines are almost identical with the colours of Russian civil and military air transport. Identical looking planes have been used in recent weeks to transport Ukrainian refugees within Russia. The plane was off course and flying at an abnormally low altitude and about to enter Russia. If the colours of the plane could have been seen through binoculars by government forces on the ground in East Ukraine and they had the authority to fire at will, then it can only point to Ukranian government forces.
    In such a scenario the separatist forces would not have fired on a Russian looking aircraft.
    If it could not have been identified by a telescope or binoculars then only the Ukrainian Government would have had access to the necessary Radar facilities. They had in fact been tracking the flight all the way over Ukrainian air space.

    • @ben70542
      @ben70542 2 роки тому

      @DeN Capone So why would the Russians shoot down ther own plane? I am very well educated thank you very much.

    • @francescolipari276
      @francescolipari276 Рік тому

      Here from 8 years after, separatist shoot it

    • @DMlTREl
      @DMlTREl Рік тому

      ​@@francescolipari276 No proofs?

  • @koro741
    @koro741 5 років тому +2

    The show's with ostrovsky r the best

  • @clintonjfox
    @clintonjfox Рік тому +1

    Pretty surreal to be watching this in 2023

  • @Pussyfan1953
    @Pussyfan1953 2 роки тому +3

    these monsters are the lowest of the lowest criminals.

    • @marcuslegion3654
      @marcuslegion3654 2 роки тому +2

      They get bombed daily .... What do you want them to do sit there and smile? What would you do if your town is being bombed ?
      Yeah thought so....

    • @ivanlawyer5578
      @ivanlawyer5578 4 дні тому

      ​@@marcuslegion3654Донецк бомбили 8 лет, Мариуполь "освободили" за 2 месяца. Посмотрите в интернете фото.

  • @furiousdestroyer2.050
    @furiousdestroyer2.050 2 роки тому +6

    Damn well this didn’t age well well

  • @onewhocomesdown
    @onewhocomesdown 9 років тому +2

    Trying to blame "separatists" for shooting down the civilian plane is a joke.

    • @JAGDTIGER128
      @JAGDTIGER128 9 років тому

      SayNOtowar muh, western media said so :( it must be true therefore!

  • @207tex
    @207tex 10 років тому +1

    They say the blew up 2 two tanks but those are the burning shells of some type of BTR which is an APC, not even a IFV, let alone a tank..Not hard to do when they are blown up on roads.

    • @aaroncantu5763
      @aaroncantu5763 2 роки тому

      Yea I’ve maybe seen a handful of tanks they’ve successfully taken down these separatist hillbilly fucks are so stupid they can barely kill anything with thicker than paper armor

  • @TheRealKoolaid
    @TheRealKoolaid 10 років тому +7

    4:15 Glad to see Justin Timberlake supporting the cause

  • @ratsnake22
    @ratsnake22 10 років тому +5

    just vaporize the rebels already and end it

  • @tWoFrEsHmClOvIn
    @tWoFrEsHmClOvIn Рік тому +1

    My man had a Putin cowboy belt 🤠

  • @777gnom
    @777gnom 2 роки тому +2

    Revenge shall be yours, my brothers

  • @user-ss3nk5fz6n
    @user-ss3nk5fz6n 10 років тому +6

    I do not see why everyone hates Putin for doing something America and NATO do at least 4 times a decade for about 50 years. remember, there was no WMDs, there was oil. I do not think that a country where most people hate their government and commits war crimes like its their job should be telling a country that has most people loving their government and does not invade countries 24/7.

  • @hexrohexro
    @hexrohexro 10 років тому +13

    are you telling me these drunken dudes are the same guys who shot down the malaysian plane cruising at an altitude of over 10000 meters? what did they use? slingshots?

    • @TwoFistsOneHalleluja
      @TwoFistsOneHalleluja 10 років тому +16

      A BUK missile.

    • @hexrohexro
      @hexrohexro 10 років тому +8

      TwoFistsOneHalleluja but you have to be an expert with months of training to use a Buk system. that's what the military experts keep telling me. these drunken slobs could not possibly handle such a complicated system. that leaves just one possibility, considering that MANPADs can only reach 3-4000 meters altitude. they used slingshots.

    • @TwoFistsOneHalleluja
      @TwoFistsOneHalleluja 10 років тому +11

      hexrohexro NO they do NOT need months of training.
      Besides, a lot of these so-called rebels are former russian army soldiers so they already had a quick training with most common russian weapons.

    • @xatumiller2
      @xatumiller2 10 років тому +5

      hexrohexro They need months of training to know the operational techniques of employing the missile system. This is exactly what they didn't have. What they did have is the technical knowledge provided to them by the Russian army. They did know how to shoot it, however they didn't know how to tell a difference between a civilian and a military plane.

    • @Ibrahim-zy2di
      @Ibrahim-zy2di 10 років тому +2

      hexrohexro they have Russian experts training them

  • @k35magnum
    @k35magnum 10 років тому +1

    For fucks sake - Not to be disrespectful of the dead or those who have lost loved ones as a result of this conflict, but the amount of ignorance here is incredibly frustrating - in terms of the people in the video and in these comments.

  • @joearnold5836
    @joearnold5836 9 місяців тому

    I don't care what side you're on, THAT is serious belt buckle!

  • @igoratsberger3431
    @igoratsberger3431 3 роки тому +3

    One of the reasons separatists started rebellion is the extreme poverty in which they lived, which became even worse after the coup along with Ukrainian nationalistic moods. Hate causes hate and starts its long lasting circle.

  • @hectorminator89
    @hectorminator89 10 років тому +9

    May the monsters who brought down the airliner, burn in hell.

  • @theunknown1555
    @theunknown1555 10 років тому +1

    they are so cold hearted.

  • @lizeliz1648
    @lizeliz1648 10 років тому +2

    поэтому и бомбите "своих" , чтобы "сильнее злились" ..

  • @andrewgusak123ua
    @andrewgusak123ua 10 років тому +6

    Піздец.Падальщики.

  • @TheTrueMorningStar
    @TheTrueMorningStar 10 років тому +3

    I see the paid Russian trolls are out in force!

  • @wonderboy2402
    @wonderboy2402 10 років тому

    Well they admit in this video to already picking through for scrap. So you can imagine how much damage this will do to the investigation... and probably picked over the bodies as well.

  • @enfantdeDieu
    @enfantdeDieu 10 років тому

    Izvarino is in the Lougansk oblast not Donetsk !

  • @realbushdoctor
    @realbushdoctor 10 років тому +9

    Nice Putin Buckle :) are they on Meth?

  • @direktorukraini
    @direktorukraini 9 років тому +3

    Тогда они кричали что любыми путями они будут отсоединятся,а сегодня они требуют чтобы мы их взяли обратно!

  • @netgeardq
    @netgeardq 10 років тому

    He really got a putin belt buckle on haha

  • @jamesosullivan532
    @jamesosullivan532 5 років тому

    YOU’RE LOOKING TO SELL SCRAP METAL OF A CIVILIAN PLANE THAT EXPLODED?! WTF?!

  • @MettPitt
    @MettPitt 2 роки тому +4

    You ..in Donbass .. started the war.. and you.. will lose it..

  • @anonvpn5087
    @anonvpn5087 2 роки тому +8

    this is why the path to war was laid, all Ukraine had to do was respect the Minsk agreement, instead they sent multiple times Azov and Right Sector thugs to kill civilians in Donbass

    • @basgarretsen8504
      @basgarretsen8504 Рік тому +1

      Russia had to respect Ukraine in the first place by leaving it alone.. russia promised that when ukraine handed over the nukes to russia... also source for you claims?????????????

    • @basgarretsen8504
      @basgarretsen8504 2 місяці тому

      @@alexandremendes3186you have severe brain damage, read everything again what just just typed and come back when that brain of yours has found the mistake

  • @Lone_On_The_Ice
    @Lone_On_The_Ice 10 років тому

    i wonder whether those 'articulate' spokesmen in military fatigues will survive this year

  • @jizunk_in_my_trizunk
    @jizunk_in_my_trizunk 10 років тому

    And now there's a question as to who shot down the passenger plane? Seems kinda obvious to me....

  • @DJBumblebee85
    @DJBumblebee85 Рік тому +3

    Ohh big words from these brave "rebels"... now 9 of 10 are already fertilizer... as they would say... "it didnt quite work out for you"... 😀

  • @Nekminute
    @Nekminute Рік тому +5

    Its 2023 and Ukraine's cheekz are being absolutely clappd 🤣

    • @xycomm5604
      @xycomm5604 Рік тому +2

      It’s 2023 and Russias cheeks are getting absolutely clapped.

    • @Nekminute
      @Nekminute Рік тому +4

      @@xycomm5604 laughs in Bakhmut 🤣

    • @xycomm5604
      @xycomm5604 Рік тому +1

      @@Nekminute laughs in Vuhledar, Kharkiv and 5 to 1 Russian casualties*

    • @Nekminute
      @Nekminute Рік тому +1

      @@xycomm5604 yeah Ukraine is almost in Moscow 🤣 get off msm news ya npc

    • @Nekminute
      @Nekminute Рік тому +2

      @@xycomm5604 - powerful air strikes the whole night through
      - Bakhmut about to fall
      - Marinka about to fall
      - Adveevka develops into a Bakhmut scenario
      - counteroffensive? Nowhere to be seen

  • @lewisbrown6200
    @lewisbrown6200 10 років тому

    I think many people are becoming confused by this report, this was recorded a FEW DAYS AGO, the plane featured is a MILITARY CARGO PLANE not, I repeat not the AIRLINER. That story will be posted in a few days.

  • @icantfindnonameforme
    @icantfindnonameforme 3 роки тому

    anyone knows what necklace the soldier at 3:58 is wearing?

  • @megawutt
    @megawutt 9 років тому

    "They will answer for this"
    Enough said.

    • @DMlTREl
      @DMlTREl Рік тому

      This did aged well

  • @nickhayes8947
    @nickhayes8947 10 років тому

    If there was already a military plane shot down over Eastern Ukraine , then why the hell would commercial jets still risk flying over that airspace?

  • @matthayes8091
    @matthayes8091 10 років тому

    Did that rebel just find what looks like an AK in the wreckage?

  • @ernstalbrecht5212
    @ernstalbrecht5212 10 років тому +1

    Respect to vice news eventually they realize whats going on in Ukraine

  • @MorganBurton
    @MorganBurton 10 років тому

    Compare this wreckage to Shanksville and try to tell me a plane went down in PA on 9/11...

  • @battlefieldornothing
    @battlefieldornothing 10 років тому

    I get sick seeing them taking pictures in front of wreckages

  • @bober9989
    @bober9989 10 років тому

    I would worry if they were sober lol

  • @jarcnuscole1199
    @jarcnuscole1199 10 років тому

    Much less bias without Simon skewing things.

  • @pauli772
    @pauli772 9 років тому

    Why was there a scorched ak 74 amongst the wreckage?:S

    • @joea9200
      @joea9200 9 років тому

      Pavel Iskenderov Iskenderov It is a shot down military plane. Military people use guns. AKs were made in the Soviet Union. I really can't make this any easier, if you haven't realised, you never will.

  • @JTelli786
    @JTelli786 10 років тому

    so could someone tell me who seems to have the advantage in this conflict, im a bit out of the loop with Vice or any media in general

    • @Baseshocks
      @Baseshocks 10 років тому +2

      No idea, but from news reports I would gather Ukraine has the advantage at this point and time because they are becoming more brutal, dropping artillery in held towns etc... But in the long run you are going to see people get angry and fight against Ukraine, so ether or right now.
      Mind u i am just going off news reports... Take it as u will.

    • @JTelli786
      @JTelli786 10 років тому

      Baseshocks okay thank! btw is Russia getting themselves involved in any of this?

    • @NoTeaBaggers
      @NoTeaBaggers 10 років тому +1

      JTelli786 Russia is supplying the arms, the food, and payment for the "self-defense" army. Arms and "soldiers" move across the Russian border into Eastern Ukraine.

    • @HerrLehmann0xcc
      @HerrLehmann0xcc 10 років тому

      NoTeaBaggers
      How do they get past the international checkpoints at the border?
      rt.com/news/169444-ukraine-russia-border-observers/
      Why are people who try to fight for eastern Ukraine not getting offered any money? Wouldn't it make more sense to offer some financial support, so that more people volunteer?
      www.vocativ.com/world/ukraine-world/interviewed-tank-operator-job-ukraine/?ModPagespeed=noscript

  • @uglypyro4416
    @uglypyro4416 10 років тому +2

    4:50 New reznov

  • @joonghsv8888
    @joonghsv8888 10 років тому

    If it was a so-called accident, why is no one owning up huh? Seems pretty shady to me.

  • @pm.meowth4850
    @pm.meowth4850 3 роки тому

    Tarkov looks tough

  • @der_augenzeuge
    @der_augenzeuge 3 роки тому +2

    Война это ужасно

  • @Bodik10
    @Bodik10 10 років тому +1

    Who are those who takes a picture on the crushed plain when burned bodies are lying around? Are they humans? Look more like animals, predators, monsters.

  • @samanthakwait8782
    @samanthakwait8782 9 років тому

    The total disregard for life is disgusting

  • @sobsobov2131
    @sobsobov2131 3 роки тому +1

    4.39 что этот мужик несет?
    140-150 кг?
    причем он определил это по куску железа?
    1.этот кусок от бомбы фаб-40,по окружной детали определил
    2.в ней заряд на 40кг. От 140-150 там бы руинов бы не осталость

  • @sergeybebenin
    @sergeybebenin 10 років тому +1

    Simple fact. About 90-95% of Ukraine is now in peace and trying to look into future instead of clinging on Soviet nostalgia. No one is exterminating Russians, no one is drinking Russian babies blood, etc.
    Unfortunately, some local mentally sick people and Russians from Russia are terrorizing certain regions in the east. If they were not doing this, Ukraine would simply be peacefully rebuilding its economy and moving on.

  • @RinatAbdrashitov
    @RinatAbdrashitov 10 років тому

    Just so that people don't get confused. This video is NOT about flight MH17.

  • @01DOGG01
    @01DOGG01 10 років тому +1

    Old topless vest-guy @ 3:46

  • @tijnjansen858
    @tijnjansen858 3 роки тому

    Airplane: gets shot down over warzone.
    Malaysia Airlines: yo let's fly there.

    • @cazulon1122
      @cazulon1122 3 роки тому

      It's not MH17 Mistakes for flying there, there a many Civilian Airlines passes through it everyday

    • @tijnjansen858
      @tijnjansen858 3 роки тому

      @@cazulon1122 can be but don't whine about getting shot down when flying over AA covered area

  • @Bgdfggcc91204
    @Bgdfggcc91204 6 місяців тому +1

    Бедные люди Донбасса если бы они тогда знали 9 лет назад что их будут бомбить и обстреливать столько лет. 😢

  • @TheSuperMotoHooligan
    @TheSuperMotoHooligan 10 років тому

    messed up...

    • @wigster600
      @wigster600 10 років тому

      Indeed, however I feel quite abit of this has to do with the education system in Ukraine, it doesn't seem to have been that good, espescially since people are so eager to tear the country apart in a pointless conflict.

  • @keshikiisacookiel
    @keshikiisacookiel 10 років тому

    2 people i know died in this crash. two very young Indonesian boys

  • @ArchiDesign8
    @ArchiDesign8 10 років тому +1

    Люди с простыми мозгами сума сходят от ненависти к вымышленным врагам.

  • @nryle
    @nryle 10 років тому

    Public Service Announcement: This video is not about the civilian airliner. Thank you for your time.

  • @tiadanama1998
    @tiadanama1998 2 роки тому +1

    Wow why do I see this now. UA-cam humour is off the charts. Maybe US should see this

  • @GrahamCStrouse
    @GrahamCStrouse 10 років тому

    You mean the civilian plane?