The END of Oshi No Ko... | Oshi No Ko Chapter 166 Review

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  • @dwatcher1910
    @dwatcher1910 Місяць тому +1551

    History repeats itself. Now Ruby don't go dating an abused guy who is also an actor.

    • @merimkastrat5846
      @merimkastrat5846 Місяць тому +253

      Or a handsome psychopath, but at least her team isnt backstabbing like Ai’s too.
      I think safe to say, her future will be different. But, a little sad she didnt get a chance to talk to Taiki.

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому +313

      Melt is her best option now. If not, she better not choose some psychopath 😭

    • @PabloHernandez-gl5ij
      @PabloHernandez-gl5ij Місяць тому +24

      ​@@ZephyrRetro agree 😢

    • @tylosenpai6920
      @tylosenpai6920 Місяць тому +48

      Unfortunate, but knowing how Ai never really wanted to specifically meet Hikaru, Ruby may end up in the same place, but if she DID end up meeting someone who has the same condition as Hikaru when he came to Ai, she at least knows what not to do
      Oh, and BTW, Hikaru is no psychopath, these people feel no guilt and have zero remorse. If Hikaru is exactly that, he might even spit on Ai with a "She was too stupid" or stuff like that after the revelation of that message of Ai talking about him, then act like nothing happens. He won't care about Ai's value at all, though he'll be more likely to kill anyone risking his reputation...

    • @MarkITEXE
      @MarkITEXE Місяць тому +8

      WEEEEEEEELLLL, About that😅

  • @keip4568
    @keip4568 Місяць тому +814

    The end of Oshi No Ko is literally the beginning after the first episode or the end of Volume 1 just with Ruby pressing on alone.

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому +113

      Lmao that is kinda true actually, this time she’s starting with no Aqua 😂

    • @TheFightingLady1935
      @TheFightingLady1935 Місяць тому +45

      Depressing story depressing ending I expected at least the twin incest didn't happen ​@@ZephyrRetro

    • @lazyman2451
      @lazyman2451 27 днів тому +1

      Still a shit I would’ve prefer the incest ending than this bullshit 😂😂 but I guess people were more quieter

    • @mrd456
      @mrd456 26 днів тому +2

      they could have done that with aqua in a coma and her performing at dome years later helps wake him up so ends in same hospital room started in with ruby songs helping aqua like how ais helped her

    • @opal_BlooM
      @opal_BlooM 23 дні тому +3

      ​@@mrd456RIGHT? I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED THIS! AQUA DIDN'T HAVE TO DIE! THERE WERE BILLIONS OF OTHER BETTER ENDINGS! AKA DID US DIRTY WITH THIS LOW KEY 😢😢😢😢

  • @keip4568
    @keip4568 Місяць тому +1037

    By his death he gave everyone a trauma in a sense

    • @merimkastrat5846
      @merimkastrat5846 Місяць тому +72

      Unintentionally, Aqua isnt perfect on planning stuff. But his focus was to protect Ruby even if he dies along with his plans. As long as it works, thats all it matters.

    • @MarkITEXE
      @MarkITEXE Місяць тому +29

      He made everyone know “PAIN”!!!

    • @deadalkabob
      @deadalkabob Місяць тому +10

      @@merimkastrat5846isn’t perfect is an understatement

    • @merimkastrat5846
      @merimkastrat5846 Місяць тому +6

      @@deadalkabob True, but I suppose as said in the end, what matters is his own plan. If it works, it works.

    • @jamilgonzaga7081
      @jamilgonzaga7081 Місяць тому +4

      We got the bad ending that's better than SnK lol

  • @Pranav79812
    @Pranav79812 Місяць тому +733

    The one character I’ll literally hate forever is that crow girl. Like, what was the point of raising Aqua just to be slaughtered and messing with Ruby mentally and emotionally? She gives off major villain vibes. Crows are a symbol of bad omen for a reason, honestly. It’s like she tortured both Aqua’s and Ruby’s souls. Honestly, it would've been better if they never got reincarnated in the first place, atleast they didn’t have to live with all that pain.

    • @merimkastrat5846
      @merimkastrat5846 Місяць тому +136

      She warned Aqua about his choice and he didn’t listen and kept going. Crow girl didnt want Aqua to die either but he still continues and was prepared to die.
      All she did was guide them, though she did torment them but she never intended to get them to die.
      But tbh, she already got what she deserved. Aqua and Ruby messed with her and dragged her into working with them in a movie lol. She also got fooled into being involved by Aqua.

    • @Pranav79812
      @Pranav79812 Місяць тому +50

      ​@@merimkastrat5846I don't think she reincarnated Goro just for him to live a chill second life. Like, they both came back with a purpose. Aqua’s was to save his sister, and Ruby’s was to shine and help people escape the darkness. Aqua might’ve found his own motivation to keep living, but he still has to fulfill his purpose. Also, every time she talks to the twins, she doesn't try to steer them away from revenge,if anything she’s pushing them further down that path.

    • @merimkastrat5846
      @merimkastrat5846 Місяць тому +27

      @@Pranav79812 I feel the purpose she gave those 2 to live was to have a second chance in life. The very least, Crow Girl was not expecting Aqua to get himself killed in the process. She was meant to help them succeed on their revenge.
      Which technically, she did help them succeed. Its just, she didnt want Aqua to die and didnt expect him to actually go with the plan.
      Thats why you see later how tearful she is, Crow Girl didnt want Aqua to die knowing he actually found his purpose to live only to give up on it later.

    • @Pranav79812
      @Pranav79812 Місяць тому +16

      @@merimkastrat5846 You might be right, there’s gotta be a way Aqua survives. Also, I remember she said, 'You made the wrong move' in chapter 123. Does that mean he unknowingly chose his own death? And we still don’t know what the wrong move actually was. I guess we’ll have to wait for the extra chapter. But still, I can’t stand that yapping fraud the true villain 😭

    • @merimkastrat5846
      @merimkastrat5846 Місяць тому +8

      @@Pranav79812 I recall Aqua swore to kill him even if it means he would have to die too.
      Thats why he chose to stab himself, and then charge at Hikaru, he pretty much planned their deaths.
      So yes, thats why Crow Girl says “You made the wrong move”, its because his plan in the future will get himself killed.

  • @WERNUTZ
    @WERNUTZ Місяць тому +353

    In Heaven.
    Ai to Aqua: Sonny.
    Aqua: Yes ma
    Ai: What's Up Doc?

    • @Kris-w4w4h
      @Kris-w4w4h Місяць тому +34

      Ai: I'm about to do what Sarina-Chan couldn't.

    • @superkirbyshow
      @superkirbyshow Місяць тому +17

      @@Kris-w4w4h Aqua to Ai: ...what now?

    • @Sakuranumberonestan
      @Sakuranumberonestan Місяць тому +12

      Ai to Aqua: you know what I mean😏

    • @superkirbyshow
      @superkirbyshow Місяць тому +10

      @Sakuranumberonestan Aqua in his thoughts: ... I'm sorry Ruby but you would understand, Right~

    • @Sakuranumberonestan
      @Sakuranumberonestan Місяць тому +10

      @@superkirbyshow Ruby sudenly hears a strange noise and Aqua Voice in her mind: WTF

  • @Cyclone9227
    @Cyclone9227 Місяць тому +515

    Aka: “Since I completed Oshi no Ko , its time for myself to make a new story and move on.”

    • @Angelus_The_Red_Dragon
      @Angelus_The_Red_Dragon Місяць тому +39

      Or in my case, the proper fanfic.

    • @rfmmf
      @rfmmf Місяць тому +32

      Most arc after 2.5D performance feels half-baked and weird..

    • @jinnimoo
      @jinnimoo Місяць тому +25

      Dude has serious adhd and is churning out the manga equivalent of 'fast fashion'

    • @huongnguyenthi8915
      @huongnguyenthi8915 Місяць тому +9

      imagine oshi no ko sequel

    • @andrestriadi7701
      @andrestriadi7701 Місяць тому +3

      Nah i Had enough

  • @SweetSentiLight101
    @SweetSentiLight101 Місяць тому +394

    And also...Ruby has officially became Ai 2.0... And at least oshi no ko isn't fully over yet...we still have it until December arrives which will bring us the special and regular edition in December 18!!!!
    I don't get it why ruby has had to become like her mother even if she didn't want to at first...but ngl...
    im so heartbroken..i can't even move on from it that its finally over...now we just the year left before its fully over...but now we just have freedom left before December arrives...❤

    • @megatron2171
      @megatron2171 Місяць тому +38

      aqua told her to be better than ai, now its almost like that advice , thrown out the window

    • @merimkastrat5846
      @merimkastrat5846 Місяць тому +24

      Ruby has always wanted to be like her mom, Aqua was originally against it but end up supporting her so he can find the killer.
      In a way, they both succeeded. Its just we hoped Aqua gets a bright future too which sadly isnt the case.

    • @SweetSentiLight101
      @SweetSentiLight101 Місяць тому +9

      ​@@megatron2171 aka saka betrayed us.

    • @MrTigracho
      @MrTigracho Місяць тому

      ​@@merimkastrat5846and in the end she did became like her

    • @ninjagirl226
      @ninjagirl226 Місяць тому +28

      No. Ai always hid her true feelings even to those closest to her.
      Ruby as stated in the chapter will allow people close to her to see her suffering but puts on a lie when in the public eye. But Ruby isn’t alone like AI. She isn’t bottling up her emotions like AI. And in some ways it’s thanks to Aqua because she has great friends like Mem-cho, Akane, and Kana to help her thanks to him.

  • @keip4568
    @keip4568 Місяць тому +273

    Aqua "Goro" was literally Ruby's bodyguard for his new life...

  • @grannysint1625
    @grannysint1625 Місяць тому +63

    Ruby got sidelined so hard. She will always be cosplaying as happy idol but will never be really happy.

  • @CelesteCampaign
    @CelesteCampaign Місяць тому +195

    I feel so conflicted with this journey, reading oshi no ko was...a lot and now that it's ended, I am not sure why I am unsatisfied with this ending.

    • @Grayson-Winchester
      @Grayson-Winchester Місяць тому +56

      You’re unsatisfied with this ending because it was more bitter than sweet.
      It ended on a open note instead of a conclusion

    • @sub_zero-y5r
      @sub_zero-y5r Місяць тому +19

      They killed the main character,that must be why your unsatisfied

    • @NoobTheNewt0987
      @NoobTheNewt0987 Місяць тому +70

      Because the ending was so rushed. He decided to cram in all the last few plot points and rubys feelings and the conclusion to the story all in a single chapter. That’s like cramming all of the FNAF lore into a single 20 minute long video, and what you get is a rushed, unfinished, video. That’s the same thing with the ending, it feels incomplete, like he didn’t know how to properly write an ending that was tragic

    • @merimkastrat5846
      @merimkastrat5846 Місяць тому +8

      Its how bittersweet ending works.
      We didnt want this ending, but for the most part its a good ending. We were reminded Oshi no Ko has always been a tragedy. Added with rom com, romance, and all that, especially drama.
      But in the end, the main part was tragedy. Aka was clever to rarely drop tragic scenes. He had us fooled thinking theres gonna be a perfect ending, but ends up with a bittersweet ending.

    • @merimkastrat5846
      @merimkastrat5846 Місяць тому +2

      @@Grayson-WinchesterThats probably his plan, meant to leave it to us to use our imagination how it happened after.
      But then again, I do hear he is doing another manga so he wanted to get this one wrapped up.

  • @tsurbwobniar20
    @tsurbwobniar20 Місяць тому +244

    Aqua dies, leaving all the friends and loved ones he's made over the course of the manga behind, but at least he's killed Hikaru and landed Nino in prison, keeping Ruby safe for good. Despite the heartbreak that takes some longer than others to recover from, everyone eventually moves on from his death, and are motivated to work harder than ever to honor his memory. This culminates in Ruby fulfilling the dream Ai never could - performing at the Tokyo Dome. But I still wish Aqua didn't have to sacrifice himself to kill Hikaru. I would've preferred if he and the others could've just exposed Hikaru for all his crimes (Like how Edward Elric was able to expose Father Cornello for being a fraud pretending to be a Messenger of God and like how Marinette Dupain-Cheng exposed Lila Rossi (Or whatever her real name is) for being the evil lying sociopath she truly is) with an Engineered Public Confession or something and bring him to justice? Aqua's death still feels so messed up, especially since it reminds me of what happened to Pietro Maximoff/Quicksilver (Marvel Cinematic Universe) and Fred Weasley (Harry Potter series). Not to mention Haruto Tokishima from Valvrave the Liberator. 😥😭🙍💔🌧️🌩️

    • @atharvakarawade9054
      @atharvakarawade9054 Місяць тому +5

      damn you sure gave a lot of analogies and references.

    • @florinaslan5482
      @florinaslan5482 Місяць тому +6

      I really agree killing Kamiki was unecessary, if he got arrested both he and nino would ve received life in prison without parole

    • @uniz258
      @uniz258 Місяць тому +2

      But Ruby isn't safe for good because there could still be crazy idol fans out there 😭

    • @florinaslan5482
      @florinaslan5482 Місяць тому +2

      @uniz258 Aye, crazy fans are a constant danger when you're famous

  • @wingadept8793
    @wingadept8793 Місяць тому +263

    I'm torn in regards to this ending. On one hand, I'm proud of Ruby and how she was able to will herself to move on after losing both Ai and Aqua, as it would be easy and understandable for her to crumble. On the other hand, I feel this incident is kind of a self fufilling prophercy in a since as Ruby is now just like Ai in regards to be what I would call a "beautiful liar." She even looks like Ai when she was first on stage. And while that is good that she was able to push forward, I don't think suppressing those feelings are good for her. Overall the ending is meh to me. I feel there could've been more but sadly this is what we got. It feels rushed, and I'm noticing a lot of manga nowadays are getting rushed endings.
    Still it was a fun ride. Thank you for reviewing all the arcs, and the chapters.
    Now if you'll excuse me. I'm gonna go have a alternate ending comic of someone saving Aqua for Ruby and the others.

    • @AmbroseVermillion
      @AmbroseVermillion Місяць тому +1

      Make it Kana, would redeem her from being an annoying selfish brat

    • @OdaNobunaga15
      @OdaNobunaga15 Місяць тому +2

      Eh rushed ending have already been kind of normal for manga for many years now. For me, it’s become less of how you can pace but more so if your ending perfectly contextualizes and cultivate the overall themes of the story. For me at least, I feel like Oshi no Ko’s ending did just that. Also, I’m okay with Aqua’s sacrifice, I just don’t know if I like the way it happened.

    • @LurenceSaragena
      @LurenceSaragena 27 днів тому

      I mean the fans have been pressuring him and he became bored of the story he made so he rushed it

    • @OdaNobunaga15
      @OdaNobunaga15 27 днів тому

      @@LurenceSaragena is there actually any proof that he got bored? I always felt this was some kind of excuse for every time a story ends shorter or weirder than expected. Maybe he actually was done and didn’t feel the need to drag it, you know? But I can definitely believed that he might have been pressured from the fans and it might of changed certain outcomes of the story.

    • @user-gx3gu9jh9q
      @user-gx3gu9jh9q 17 днів тому

      I think the ending about ruby becoming like ai is perfect, it's like a cycle, she's become the ai 02, idk what ending you're expected

  • @Zero-c5v
    @Zero-c5v Місяць тому +62

    For Ai and Aqua, they said lies becuase they couldn't express their love properly and for Ruby she uses lies because she can't express her grief.

  • @daylone233
    @daylone233 Місяць тому +104

    We see a crow sitting on a roof during the concert, so i think it's Tsukuyomi who continues to keep an eye on Ruby. i also think she is just the goddess who carries the souls of the dead as she said previously, she can't directly interact.

  • @alexsjarif
    @alexsjarif Місяць тому +82

    I hate the fact that it started with the messed up industry and ended the same. U can't change it and it won't be changed it will stay fked. Someone made the mha and jjk ending look good

    • @ninjagirl226
      @ninjagirl226 Місяць тому +10

      Welcome to the real world!

    • @alexsjarif
      @alexsjarif Місяць тому +13

      @ im not mad abt the ending but its the execution of all of them that sucked so hard

    • @Nihal.kr.
      @Nihal.kr. Місяць тому +1

      ​@@ninjagirl226that is why...humanity shall fall

    • @ninjagirl226
      @ninjagirl226 Місяць тому +9

      @@Nihal.kr. Ok to be perfectly fair we don’t know the long term impact of Aqua’s death and the 15 years a lie movie on the entertainment industry. It’s just never stated.
      That said the final bit of the series is more a commentary on grief and trauma than anything else. And in that regard it will always happen.
      Ruby lies and covers up her grief while in public because you have to. If you let grief consume you even if it’s your true feelings it’s not a life worth living. In that regard it is better to lie and be happy in public for others because in some ways it rubs off on you even if just a little. That’s how you start to heal.

    • @Nihal.kr.
      @Nihal.kr. Місяць тому +1

      @@ninjagirl226 nah humanity shall fall regardless

  • @ninjagirl226
    @ninjagirl226 Місяць тому +211

    This last chapter is a commentary on handling grief and trauma.
    Of the Hoshino’s only Ruby was able to strike the balance.
    Hikaru became obsessive killing others just to feel closer to his dead ex-girlfriend.
    Aqua wanted revenge on those who hurt him. Even if in the end he didn’t act on it that was what motivated him most of his life and how he processed the grief of losing Ai.
    Ai bottled everything up. She hid her pain and true emotions from everyone. She refused to acknowledge her pain but also her love.
    But Ruby hit the balance of accepting the loss but not letting it become obsessive. To let go but not forget. To be able to express their feelings to those who matter even if they have to put on a brave face when needed.
    Say what you want about the ending but this commentary on handling grief and trauma is powerful for those fighting through it.

    • @SeaAngel24676
      @SeaAngel24676 Місяць тому +19

      This. this was the only thing I liked about the ending honestly. but it could've still been written a little better because the way it was written made it look like Ai and Ruby were completely the same.

    • @ninjagirl226
      @ninjagirl226 Місяць тому +12

      @@SeaAngel24676 Only Ruby’s lines at the end. Throughout the chapter you can tell Ruby and Ai were different.
      Ai was never that close with anyone in B-Komachi; she never let them see the real her. They were never there for her to maybe open up to. Even her manager didn’t know the real Ai. Hikaru didn’t know the real AI because she didn’t even let him in.
      But it Mem-Cho and Kana came to comfort Ruby. Akane kept checking on Ruby too even if she wasn’t a member of B-komachi. Ruby let them in. That’s the difference.

    • @SeaAngel24676
      @SeaAngel24676 Місяць тому +1

      @@ninjagirl226 Yes, I know that all.
      Maybe it's just the translated version I read, but the way Aka wrote everything in the chapter, it literally said "She's become just like Ai, lying all the time." and just like you've said, she didn't. so I don't know why he wrote that.
      I know Ruby is different from Ai, I know all of this, I'm complaining about how the chapter itself was executed, but it might actually be translation differences, I'll check for that later.

  • @Pranav79812
    @Pranav79812 Місяць тому +143

    It's been a wild ride with lots of highs and lows. I know most people (myself included) aren’t loving the ending, but it's time to say goodbye. Honestly, I’ve got mixed feelings.I'm sad for the characters but also kinda relieved the series is finally over. Big thanks to you, Zephyr, for breaking it down so well. I’ll keep following your channel alwayss!

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому +26

      Yeah it really has been a fun journey. Gonna miss the series for sure even if it didn’t have the best ending 😔 and thx for sticking around as well!

    • @Pranav79812
      @Pranav79812 Місяць тому +3

      @@ZephyrRetro yeah always bro...any plans for the next manga btw?

    • @Rosie-fd1fn
      @Rosie-fd1fn Місяць тому +3

      this is massive cope. another shit ending for another subpar manga. they can't figure out what the entire point of their stories was and just kind of, end it. no story wrap up, no themes or messaging, just moving their characters around like cardboard cutouts

    • @Pranav79812
      @Pranav79812 Місяць тому +5

      @@Rosie-fd1fn It's like a trend currently to end the manga with such endings.

    • @edwardgabrielsantos
      @edwardgabrielsantos Місяць тому +1

      ​@@ZephyrRetroStill, the anime is ongoing with season 3 confirmed. Hope we see to it.

  • @AfizaFarhana
    @AfizaFarhana 28 днів тому +10

    In memories,
    🪦 Ai Hoshino, 20 year old. (2002-2022)
    🪦 Aquamarine Hoshino, 17 year old. (2018-2035)
    🪦 Gorou Amamiya, 30 year old. (1988-2018)
    🪦 Sarina Tendouji, 12 year old. (2002-2014)
    🪦 Hikaru Kamiki, 32 year old. (2003-2035)
    ----‐--------------------------------------------------------
    *i might be wrong with death year/age. if aqua and hikaru died at 2036, then Aqua would be 18 and Hikaru would be 33.😅
    *edit for Sarina

    • @gaminglife8103
      @gaminglife8103 28 днів тому +2

      Thanks for making this tombstone

    • @AfizaFarhana
      @AfizaFarhana 27 днів тому +1

      @gaminglife8103 no problem 🤧🤧🤧

  • @Shadowgirl-chan
    @Shadowgirl-chan Місяць тому +160

    It looks like history is going to repeat its self

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому +48

      Yeah it did seem like the cycle will continue in a way

    • @justanother3367
      @justanother3367 Місяць тому +6

      @@ZephyrRetro you will make a video about the new Ch in December right? I hope so!❤

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому +10

      @ yep, if its a special chapter I’ll definitely cover it!

    • @PrisonRealm-827
      @PrisonRealm-827 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@ZephyrRetro I want to know what will history repeats itself. Um because i completely forgot about the episode one ss 1 and i just started watching onk again from chapter 163. Just want explanation hehe.

    • @justanother3367
      @justanother3367 Місяць тому +3

      @@ZephyrRetro thank you❤️in advance ❤️

  • @AmanoR5
    @AmanoR5 Місяць тому +19

    Ruby, please don't get stabbed in the stomach.

  • @jonathanchen1026
    @jonathanchen1026 Місяць тому +15

    It’s basically a happy ending for Aqua, he got exactly what he wanted for the future of Ruby

    • @Novaurawr
      @Novaurawr Місяць тому +6

      Tbh when u look at it that way I guess Ruby suffered much more than Aqua in the end.

    • @akhandtripathipyz9888
      @akhandtripathipyz9888 17 днів тому +1

      ​@@Novaurawr She always suffered more while Aqua just gets more and more butthurt 😭

    • @Novaurawr
      @Novaurawr 17 днів тому

      @@akhandtripathipyz9888 also while Goro did lose Sarina, Sarina suffered the pain of her illness and abandonment by her og family, (goro did have dead mom he felt guilt abt)
      Ruby mourned Aqua/goro dying twice while Aqua once.
      They both experienced Ai’s death and Aqua was prob affected more by it but overall Ruby did suffer more when u look at that way tbh.

  • @so12productions
    @so12productions Місяць тому +80

    Finally, we officially Oshi our No Ko. Now Imma go to an aquarium.

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому +20

      Aquarium is a good nickname for Aqua 😂🥶

    • @merimkastrat5846
      @merimkastrat5846 Місяць тому +12

      Hope you met a dolphin named “Aquamarine”.

    • @yarko9877
      @yarko9877 25 днів тому

      @@merimkastrat5846 just don't stab him in a gut

    • @merimkastrat5846
      @merimkastrat5846 25 днів тому

      @@yarko9877 More like, dont let the dolphin stab themselves in a gut.

  • @Curly28head
    @Curly28head Місяць тому +13

    Final opinion: This ending isn't bad, but it also isn't very good. While Aqua's death serves as a fitting conclusion to his character, it leaves too many plot holes. The ending feels rushed, and I wished to see more of Ruby's suffering rather than just a few panels. I'm also uncertain about the message that everyone moves on and that's it. If there had been more buildup to this message, showing in greater detail how the characters truly felt and how they gradually accepted their circumstances, it would have made a stronger impression. Instead, the conclusion arrived too quickly and feels like lazy writing. I’ll give the ending a 6.5/10 it's not bad, but it certainly isn't great either.

  • @fermarcruz8542
    @fermarcruz8542 Місяць тому +65

    A bit sad about my favorite girl having the narrator role at the end of the story meaning she is the only one who knows the truth. Aqua's story, his debriefing, will endure only in Akane's heart (sorry, too much MGS3)... Let's hope the special chapter will give some closure to not just Akane but to the other characters as well... I hope you can also cover that special chapter...

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому +15

      If it is indeed a special chapter, I’ll definitely try to cover it! Hopefully there’s an official release for it online. As for Akane, I would’ve liked to see more of her in this chapter, but her having the narrator role does show her importance to the story as well, which is enough to satisfy me XD

    • @fermarcruz8542
      @fermarcruz8542 Місяць тому +10

      @@ZephyrRetro as per Aka's latest tweet, there will be an 18-page extra material and a novella about Kana and Akane's past and future. Now I'm interested...

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому +5

      @@fermarcruz8542 definitely excited for that as well! Happy that we’re getting more content too

    • @TheXDGuy
      @TheXDGuy Місяць тому +1

      she gave her life not for honor but for aqua

    • @rish9471
      @rish9471 Місяць тому +1

      Man the MGS3 reference 😢....The sacrifice of Boss and only Snake/Big Boss (along with EVA) knowing the truth hurts so much man....and now same for Akane (my favorite girl too) to suffer with the fact being the only one to realize the truth. But at least the other twin can be happy and Akane (and Kana) could watch over Ruby 🥹.

  • @Zero-c5v
    @Zero-c5v Місяць тому +37

    The biggest complain with this chapter was that B-Komachi had Mem, Ruby and some rando at the dome.

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому +11

      Fair lol, I would’ve liked it too if we got info on those new idols due to the significance of joining a group with so much history.

    • @Zero-c5v
      @Zero-c5v Місяць тому +2

      @@ZephyrRetro Ye. The ending was satisfactory though. Sad but good.. It ties back perfectly with Ai's death.

    • @Novaurawr
      @Novaurawr Місяць тому

      Tbh I like that they showed that B-Komachi recruited new members but I also rly wish they showed smth like how this girl was affected by Ruby and wanted to join or hinted at from before.

    • @muhtashimshabab2248
      @muhtashimshabab2248 Місяць тому +1

      Maybe they will show something in the anime adaptation

  • @vex6538
    @vex6538 Місяць тому +18

    Honestly these past 10 chapters have been really hard for me to read, everything i was longing to see for the final arc was crushed to smithereens release after release.
    - What was the point in stating how emotionally devastated Hikaru was by seeing how Ai truly loved him, only to cut his character completely and make him reappear as the final and true villan because it "had to be this way"?
    - What was the point in letting Aqua dream and yearn to live his life surrounded by the people he loved and wishing to become a doctor?
    - What was the point in paving the way for Aqua and Kana to finally confess their love for each other the day of Kana's last concert?
    - What was the point in showing Akane's resolve and determination to stop Aqua from doing anything reckless and selfish?
    - What was the point in making Ruby reunite with her most cherished person and wanting to become an idol that doesn't convey lies as opposite to her mother?
    I can't praise an ending that deliberately ignored any relevant plot point and character's growth only for the sake of drama and tragedy. Aka, if you had already set the tone for the ending to be this dark from the beginning, you shouldn't have shown us all this light and hope.

    • @CheekiTiki
      @CheekiTiki Місяць тому +4

      Id argue a good tragic character death requires unresolved threads like these but for some reason it just doesn't work at all in this case. Maybe it's because Aqua's death feels so dumb and unnecessary.

    • @uniz258
      @uniz258 Місяць тому +1

      EXACTLY!!!

    • @noobymooby-ty8gh
      @noobymooby-ty8gh 24 дні тому

      The point is to give us false hope and then leave us to die when they crush those hopes. Why? Because this manga is an evil experiment comparable to Unit 731 in WW2. Well maybe not that evil but you know what i mean.

    • @noobymooby-ty8gh
      @noobymooby-ty8gh 24 дні тому

      This manga is secretly an evil experiment to see if mangas could be used as a torture device. Because it worked and now i'm depressed

    • @CheekiTiki
      @CheekiTiki 23 дні тому +1

      @@noobymooby-ty8gh This implies a level of competence that I have trouble believing in.

  • @azurw1936
    @azurw1936 Місяць тому +14

    All we need is crow girl sitting by herself with a hourglass and flipping it over for the ending scene to make this the perfect ending

  • @GlacierRain
    @GlacierRain Місяць тому +35

    the fact that Aqua still wanted to live and be happy is what made me have an ultimately favorable opinion of this manga series overall despite all its evident shortcomings and the obvious rushing of the last arc. You can tell the author's passion for this story kinda just went dry for some reason and decided to wrap it up and that is fine by me. I'd rather see the end of a story I loved so much than end up being another Hunter X Hunter with no end in sight.
    Thank you good sir for covering this, I am certainly sticking around for your next project :)
    peace o/

    • @joseph86255
      @joseph86255 12 днів тому

      It makes sense. Nobody really _wants_ to die.

  • @PabloHernandez-gl5ij
    @PabloHernandez-gl5ij Місяць тому +66

    Just like Ruby we all have to live with that pain in our hearts with the ending we got of Oshi No Ko 😭 and yep like you said Tsukuyomi was a big fat fraud yapper right up to the very end 😂 but I'm definitely looking forward to that special edition chapter on December 18th but thank you Zephyr it's was definitely a fun ride and a privilege to have shared it with you guys.🥲👍

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому +6

      Bro thank you for sticking around and always commenting on the vids. Really appreciate you man ✊ and hopefully that special chapter gives us some more info on that fraud girl 😂

    • @PabloHernandez-gl5ij
      @PabloHernandez-gl5ij Місяць тому +1

      ​@@ZephyrRetroI know bro hopefully she doesn't end up becoming a meme as the most useless girl in anime right next to Sakura Haruno 🤣

    • @edwardgabrielsantos
      @edwardgabrielsantos Місяць тому

      To me, I don't think the Crow girl is a fraud. After all, not even gods can save someone who is dying, which is Aqua. Also, it is death u talking about. Even if she brings Aqua out of the water, he is still bleeding and dies soon. I mean, does she have healing powers?

  • @Phantomgames2
    @Phantomgames2 Місяць тому +25

    Just a theory of Hikaru:Airi probably started to make him break and when ai broke up with him it drove him to madness

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому +6

      I think that it is pretty much what happened, so it is a good theory

    • @merimkastrat5846
      @merimkastrat5846 Місяць тому +3

      He was already broken by Airi, and I believe she was his first indirect kill after Hikaru talked her husband into killing her.
      Ai just happened to met him somehow and end up in a relationship, not knowing the kind of man he is. She truly was unfortunate.

    • @Phantomgames2
      @Phantomgames2 Місяць тому +2

      @ true

    • @Novaurawr
      @Novaurawr Місяць тому

      @@merimkastrat5846tbh I don’t think Hikaru led the husband to kill Airi, I feel like he js told him abt it bc he wanted to let it out and was scared/helpless at that time not knowing what’ll happen.

    • @merimkastrat5846
      @merimkastrat5846 Місяць тому +1

      @@Novaurawr Well…. He used that same tactic as an adult where he talks others into killing famous people.
      Hikaru is the root of all this as evident in the manga. He was the main source that convinced others into killing.

  • @tylosenpai6920
    @tylosenpai6920 Місяць тому +30

    Hikaru truly goes as a tragedy...that man was probably too afraid to figure out if Ai really "doesn't" love him, and lacked the strength to do it, and it costs him EVERYTHING...
    UA-camr Mr Ballen, a veteran from Navy Seals, ALWAYS describes him seeking mental help as "I stepped out of my comfort zone", and that's what he has that Hikaru lacked, the courage...
    Hopefully, if Ruby DID end up with a guy who was like Hikaru when he came to Ai, she knows what not to say to him...

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому +7

      Hopefully Ruby avoids those types of guys. She might feel bad for them, but she should know the possible dangers that come with them too.

    • @tylosenpai6920
      @tylosenpai6920 Місяць тому +2

      @@ZephyrRetro It may be tricky, since, again, all began with Ai's lie, and Hikaru's fear of confirming that the lie was true, and Hikaru ends up being SO dark that only Ai can talk through him
      The only other way i see possible for Ruby to help these people is to either literally or metaphorically drag them to a professional
      Hikaru is strong in his own way though...most others may have just "Go before their time" with that magnitude of hardship
      I got that wording from Rebuild Eva on Shinji's therapy scene on a certain someone, where Shinji said he's afraid to figure out that this person really hates him

    • @Bella-id3nb
      @Bella-id3nb Місяць тому +1

      Oh my a fellow Mrballen subscriber here. Gotcha.😊 I've always loved his storytelling.

    • @tylosenpai6920
      @tylosenpai6920 Місяць тому +1

      @@Bella-id3nb Same here, didn't expect i'm going to find one here

    • @Sirwest299
      @Sirwest299 Місяць тому

      EYYY MR BALLEN

  • @neerajoshi5473
    @neerajoshi5473 Місяць тому +11

    5:51 there are now two stars in the sky symbolizing that aqua and Ai are now together now and are watching over everyone from the sky aqua may have died but He’s with his mother now living peacefully in the heaven it’s Sad Aqua died but at least he’s with his mother Ai 😢😭

  • @davida2604
    @davida2604 Місяць тому +26

    Even though I don’t really like the pacing of these last few chapters, and even though I heavily disagree with the direction of the ending (in my personal opinion), I’m still grateful to this story in a way. I say this because I was an anime only person, but I started checking out the manga because of your videos, and oshi no ko became the first manga I ever checked out. Despite my mixed feelings of the ending, I still had a blast reading this manga, and it’s an incredible and well written story at the end of the day. Now that this story is over, I want to check out more manga now. Thank you Aka for Oshi No Ko, and thank you Zephyr for your videos and for getting me into reading manga ❤️

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому +2

      Wow, it’s cool to hear that OnK was your first! Glad to hear you at least enjoyed reading the manga, even considering how it ended. There’s definitely a lot of good series out there as well, so hopefully you can find some more that you’ll enjoy! 😄

    • @edwardgabrielsantos
      @edwardgabrielsantos Місяць тому

      To be honest, I did share something similar to you. Like you, I only saw it in the anime, which I wasn't interested in it, despite I did read some other manga series such as Demon Slayer. But then, because of his videos, it's like it got my attention, and I started to like it more. Thank you for reminding me, and also, I felt bad for Aka, and I don't blame him much.

  • @Damn_it987
    @Damn_it987 Місяць тому +6

    I am gonna miss your onk chapter uploads it was such a ride of emotions ❤

  • @Decodex25
    @Decodex25 Місяць тому +11

    Bro can't stop violating the crow girl 😭
    Nah but, i kinda feel the whole thing is really rushed and it doesn't end up convincing me that nothing really changed in the end.
    Like, Kana never got with Aqua, Akane couldn't save Aqua and Ruby ended up the same as Ai even when we had like whole parts and chapters dedicated to Ruby so she stopped trying to be like Ai.
    I still like Onk tho

  • @Yae_Miko.-simp
    @Yae_Miko.-simp Місяць тому +2

    I think the reason why aqua died its cause he finished protecting Ruby and Ruby was the one deserving the new life,cause she hadn’t had one as Sarina-chan

  • @raikonzero
    @raikonzero Місяць тому +7

    I wished that both siblings got to live in the end, but if the sacrifice was to give Ruby a better and safer life then at least some good came from Aqua's sacrifice, even though he could have planned it out better so he didn't have to end up that way.

  • @lorittaganda9983
    @lorittaganda9983 Місяць тому +9

    Continue the great work Idol

  • @CrouchHopJab1386
    @CrouchHopJab1386 Місяць тому +27

    5:51 I really hope that when this gets adapted in the anime one star will be purple and the other one blue to symbolize both Ai and Aqua.
    Edit : The door theory was the greatest foreshadowing in the anime...

    • @edwardgabrielsantos
      @edwardgabrielsantos Місяць тому

      And I wonder what different ending it will be next year.

  • @gantashiro978
    @gantashiro978 Місяць тому +27

    The cycle repeating itself like Attack On Titan lol 😅 here's to hoping whatever handsome guy Ruby falls for, doesn't turn out to be another Hikaru

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому +9

      Ruby should know better. Hopefully she gets out of there as soon as she’s red flags 😂

    • @Novaurawr
      @Novaurawr Місяць тому +6

      Imagine Ruby js falls in love with an abused traumatised teen actor and the cycle continues 💀

    • @Dakrnesschronicle
      @Dakrnesschronicle 27 днів тому

      ​@@Novaurawrthat would truly make a attack on titan like ending, the ai and hikaru could've ended wholesome aswell, but they were just 2 traumatized teens with problems.

    • @Novaurawr
      @Novaurawr 27 днів тому

      @@Dakrnesschronicle tbh miscommunication and their lack of experience was the main problem with Ai & Hikaru imo, tbh I think Ruby does have a bit more experience & communicate better than Ai.

    • @Dakrnesschronicle
      @Dakrnesschronicle 27 днів тому

      @@Novaurawr yeah, that's true, I haven't read the manga in much detail, but it could've ended with better if hikaru actually came to meet her or if she didn't just leave him alone at his worst.

  • @Namikohoshi
    @Namikohoshi Місяць тому +10

    Imagine if there was a silhouette in front of ruby at the end.
    They never did get a lock for the front door😂

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому +2

      That would be a crazy way to end it 😂😂☠️

    • @Novaurawr
      @Novaurawr Місяць тому +2

      The cycle continues 💀

  • @Karan-pn7xs
    @Karan-pn7xs 27 днів тому +3

    Plot twist -
    At the end ruby got hit by truck kun on her way out and got isekaid. Isekai no ko

  • @jeppykun05
    @jeppykun05 Місяць тому +7

    with Ruby being the next Ai, she needs to be careful because there's going to be another Hikaru Kamiki if she repeats the same mistakes her mother did ☠️☠️

    • @Dakrnesschronicle
      @Dakrnesschronicle 27 днів тому

      Tbh, it could've ended positively, if ai didn't just break up with him in the most bizzare way possible or he decided to find out the truth and went to actually met her.

  • @Khaos_madness
    @Khaos_madness Місяць тому +6

    I think that this review ties in random stuff surprisingly well. Like I didn’t even think of the door scene being relevant. I think we readers try to think what did the author do in the anime and manga that makes this impactful? And I think this series will be the most impactful series I will ever watch. The ending may of been kinda lame, but I like how it fits well with the story.

  • @sarahlachman1349
    @sarahlachman1349 Місяць тому +4

    Thanks for all your Oshi No Ko reviews, will miss seeing you're updates on it

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому

      I’m gonna miss talking about it fr. I’m glad you were able to enjoy them tho 😄

  • @SlothOfTheSea
    @SlothOfTheSea Місяць тому +44

    Damn, it’s Hoshinover. Or, Oshi no Kover. XD.
    But on a serious note, this manga wasn’t just a story to me; it was a journey, an exploration of complex characters, and a deep dive into the harsh realities and beautiful nuances of the entertainment industry. I’m filled with gratitude for the ride, and a strange mix of sadness and happiness now that it’s over. It’s rare to find a series that makes you feel so much, and this one has managed to do that time and again.
    A massive thank you to Akasaka-sensei and Yokoyari-sensei for bringing this story to life. The artistry, the storytelling, the themes, and the characters felt damn realistic at times. Though there certainly were some dips in quality along the way - especially nearing the finale - those moments didn’t diminish my fondness of the story. ONK took risks, delved into themes not often explored, and delivered a tale that stayed impactful from start to finish. Ai, Aqua, Ruby, Kana, Akane, Mem, Hikaru, and literally everyone else are genuinely some of the characters I’ve e been most interested in.
    I can’t help but hope this isn’t entirely the end. There are still so many layers to explore, so much depth in these characters and this world that could lend itself to spinoffs or side stories. Whether we get those or not, though, I’m grateful for what we got-a series that struck a balance between the dark and the light, leaving us with something unforgettable. Reading the newest chapter on a weekly Wednesday night has become a ritual for me, and it’s a damn shame that today’s the last day I can do such a thing.
    I’m sad it’s over, but also incredibly happy to have experienced this journey alongside the characters.
    Didn’t expect an idol manga to have a special place in my heart. 💫

  • @rafanadalmexicanonoexiste1565
    @rafanadalmexicanonoexiste1565 Місяць тому +3

    This is an utterly disappointing ending... It ruins multiple character arcs (Aqua starting to believe that he should live, Ruby stating that she wouldn't be like her mother...). What was the point of all that Kana vs Ruby conflict if Ruby was going to turn out like her mother anyway? Wasn't it supposed to highlight their differences and prove that history wouldn't repeat itself? I'm just very, very disappointed.

  • @ElleEd-wt8bh
    @ElleEd-wt8bh Місяць тому +53

    I love how you chew out crow girl. Honestly even though this is a well written ending I still would’ve wanted Aqua to live. In chapter 118 crow girl said that Ai might’ve been watching her children as a star so I definitely think that those two stars are Aqua and Ai. At least they got to see Ruby follow her dreams

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому +8

      That’s a good reference you brought up with ch 118. I really do think it would be perfect if those stars were Aqua and Ai watching over Ruby 😌

    • @rubenfigueiredo4229
      @rubenfigueiredo4229 Місяць тому

      Well writen ending is debatable it felt rushed and they could have done better

  • @kennhern
    @kennhern Місяць тому +10

    2:06 That's not a restaurant, that's a classroom

  • @RorysCemetary
    @RorysCemetary 29 днів тому +2

    “The history book on the shelf, is always repeating itself”
    Thanks for your videos, they always give me something to look forward to. I am sad that the manga ended nonetheless. The manga def came full circle with Ruby surpassing Ai, and basically becoming the next Ai, while also continuing the cycle of lies because that’s what she needs to survive. It’s bittersweet. Your reviews were always the best, I may or may not tune in for more after I grieve the manga ending lol ✌🏼

  • @AnReisVERYsigma
    @AnReisVERYsigma Місяць тому +3

    The door theory was so tragic 😭 I wish Aqua lived but I guess that means that Aka’s bittersweet ending worked. Lets hope Ruby doesn’t meet up with psycho 👀👀

  • @Michplay
    @Michplay Місяць тому +3

    The crow girl really is the worse, she could have saved him even but no, let him die. Standing on the water doing nothing. Wat was her point in this series she did nothing. She is indeed a fraud.

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому +3

      I don’t even think info from the special chapter can save her now. She really did nothing but yap and watch Aqua die 😂☠️

  • @neerajoshi5473
    @neerajoshi5473 Місяць тому +5

    1:24 The ending of season to spoil the whole ending for Ruby Ruby, running wearing black clothes is exactly like in the season two ending season, one and two ending spoil the whole ending for the manga. It was right there we just never noticed they were telling us the ending in the ending all along I can’t believe nobody noticed it was right there all along 🤩

  • @christianpastor5339
    @christianpastor5339 20 днів тому +1

    [Oshi no Ko] concludes with 166 episodes. Idol's bpm (tempo) is 166. It's truly genius that the ending of the story is foreshadowed.

  • @SLimes-ce3id
    @SLimes-ce3id Місяць тому +5

    In my opinion, aqua and ruby both deserve to live a happy life... Aqua and ruby both sufferred for 2 lives straight.... I hope that if there is an aqua and ruby somewhere in the multiverse, I hope that they will live hapilly together eternally....
    Honestly I hope that if the oshi no ko universe is real somewhere out in the multiverse, I hope there is a happy ending😢
    Also thanks zephyr for following this manga. ❤

  • @djay00009
    @djay00009 29 днів тому +2

    I feel the ending kinda sucked, it doesn't change anything for Ruby and just puts her in the role of Ai, So, what changed ? Ruby just replaced Ai with the trauma, Atleast Ai had her children, Ruby has no family left now.
    The ending also does no justice for Aqua , the guy suffered through two shitty lives already , what the hell dude ? Aqua needs a better ending and he was smart enough , why did he have to sacrifice himself to save Ruby ? Cant he find another way to take his revenge ? The ending totally undermines Aqua's character. It makes him look dumb as well, If are dead, who will protect Ruby now if anything happens ?
    The dead cannot protect anyone.
    Sensei and Aqua were not these kind of characters , and the ending also fails and ruins the message of the 15 year lie that Ai wanted to convey in the first place. This is such a stupid ending honestly. It really takes a lot of characters out of their personality and exists just for the sake of being an ending. A great 9/10 manga was 1/10 ending.

  • @LaanexBzz
    @LaanexBzz Місяць тому +6

    I didn’t liked the ending but I was satisfied by it there isn’t really nothing more I would’ve expected but there is things I would’ve wanted at the end I just had to wake up to reality to come to the conclusion that the ending was good it was hard but yeah I definitely liked the ride and honestly I wish to see more from the autor

  • @MRANONY2792
    @MRANONY2792 15 днів тому +2

    Bruh i was expecting a good ending: aqua gets saved by the crow girl he wakes up in a hospital with everyone around him then marries kana and then happy happy happy

  • @JXGS101
    @JXGS101 Місяць тому +8

    Wasn't Ruby supposed to be different from AI? Aqua told her that lying is not for her and in the end she just became AI 2.0, i feel some character regression here in the story. Thanks for covering.

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому +6

      Yeah Ig they’re lying about differing things. Ai for love and Ruby for her suffering, but in the the end they’re both still lying always.

    • @Novaurawr
      @Novaurawr Місяць тому

      @@ZephyrRetrothat’s a better way to look at it that they’re lying abt diff things at least then they’re js the same Ig

    • @Novaurawr
      @Novaurawr Місяць тому

      That’s what I’m thinking too, tbh I don’t rly mind Aqua dying but I wish Ruby was portrayed differently bc Ruby was supposed to be like an idol of truth and pureness instead of lies.

  • @MarineTrack42065
    @MarineTrack42065 22 дні тому +1

    Dropping this before even watching it this is the type of ending I would never watch it I already had less expectations from it

  • @romaplay630
    @romaplay630 Місяць тому +3

    What if you wanted a happy ending
    But aka akasaki said:
    Aqua dies, Ruby becomes ai (I really expected her to die), the others move on.
    Imo, making the "and then the cycle continues" ending is kinda ass, no offense.

  • @natachalarbuisson5383
    @natachalarbuisson5383 Місяць тому +2

    If Ruby were a real person I will hug her so badly

  • @EvelynHernandez-mp8gn
    @EvelynHernandez-mp8gn Місяць тому +6

    I’m glad I never bought the manga but at the same time even though it was an ending that we didn’t expect or didn’t want it was still good

  • @angrychicken3890
    @angrychicken3890 Місяць тому +2

    Feel like the S2 ED is really showing with Ruby running.

  • @Richardwho-vv5bh
    @Richardwho-vv5bh Місяць тому +18

    now Ruby become fully into AI, wich is sad in a part, because of the whole "i tell lies after lies", but on the happy side, she is now living her dream, been the greatest idol ever.

    • @jaanhavi0_0
      @jaanhavi0_0 Місяць тому

      And probably* won't be killed by any other obsessed fan cuz Ai and Aqua lit up her future apparently

  • @worminaround
    @worminaround 23 дні тому

    Funny how The cycle is still here and it kinda breaks all the things Aqua has done.... But no, Aqua was always been for revenge not to change society. Though the movie is still up, there's at least that.
    I remember a quote my Father told me.
    "Let them see what they have done, let them review themselves, Change comes after Work. It's the realisation."

  • @ThatOneLazyPersonRoblox
    @ThatOneLazyPersonRoblox Місяць тому +22

    I was hoping that we could see Ai and Aqua watching Ruby in the final pannel but the final panel I liked it as well

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому +7

      Same! I was really hoping to see those two, but ig the two stars is the closest we got to that.

  • @quanlinglingdingle6122
    @quanlinglingdingle6122 28 днів тому +1

    ngl aka really loved the word "lie" in this series that it becomes cringier everytime someone says it in the manga, like stfu bro we get it

  • @CavalryCosplay
    @CavalryCosplay Місяць тому +5

    Time for Zephyr to dismantle the film industry irl

  • @tazionuvolari8142
    @tazionuvolari8142 Місяць тому +1

    Realisation kicked in. I saw the last chapter whole day ago, and i was sure that Aka will kill Aqua since 163, but only now fully realised that: *Damn, Aqua is dead dead*. Idk, i was giggling like "oh he's gonna reincorporate again" or something but he didn't. Like, both me being sure that Auqa will die after 163 and that i thought that he would reincarnate again lowkey ruined the ending for me emotionally cause i was ready and couldn't actually fully understand the characters. Maybe that my personal problem cause when my Grandma and Hamster died I haven't like fully realised it for quite some time. When my mom told me that it hit me like 2 hrs later, than again somewhere around 2 days later and a week later. And when my hamster died i continued checking the place his cage were for like 2-3 months. First two weeks every time i saw that the cage wasn't there the fact that he died hit me again and again.

  • @Anime_enjoyer-69
    @Anime_enjoyer-69 Місяць тому +3

    I was hoping somehow aqua will wake up in this chapter revealing he was in a comatose state all along but it's quite disheartening

  • @aveekapal7775
    @aveekapal7775 Місяць тому +2

    I don't know why i felt the story is incomplete because what about aqua feelings about kana and akane's reaction to aqua's death ( she didn't seens little bit sad at all )

  • @crooked4827
    @crooked4827 Місяць тому +55

    I like this ending. With how oshi no ko try to tell a story abt the realistic dark world we're actually living, it also give a realistic happy ending for the characters. Everyone have their own pain, but going forward is what makes life become hopeful for a happy ending.

    • @deadalkabob
      @deadalkabob Місяць тому +5

      Eh, the ending kinda felt sloppy considering the lead up more so just served for readers to pick apart the ending, rather than bolster the messaging of the story.

    • @thecleverboys2005
      @thecleverboys2005 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@deadalkabobfr it's a dumb ending, all this guys are just making it more good then it is. It's like the auther is trying go on aot or jjk ending type but fail, there are so many things still unknown and would have been good character development. But the auther just made it worse.

    • @pvpr27
      @pvpr27 Місяць тому +5

      Honestly, I don't get how that ending is realistic.

    • @thecleverboys2005
      @thecleverboys2005 Місяць тому +3

      @pvpr27 fr it's rushed and utter garbage, all this people who say it's good. Didn't even experience all those things and are talking like they experience the worst of the world

    • @BlackBarrel179
      @BlackBarrel179 Місяць тому +1

      @@pvpr27 it’s realistic because you can’t just suddenly change the status quo with the snap of a finger. I bet you if Aka ended it that way people would have still complained about it and called it a BS ending anyway.

  • @foodmr2022
    @foodmr2022 Місяць тому +2

    As along as that monster was around, nobody was safe including Ruby and Akane but at least his family and loved ones are safe from that monster that ruined their lives.

  • @yourbestfriend2992
    @yourbestfriend2992 Місяць тому +4

    I blame Apex Legends. My man too busy gaming

  • @ordinarygamer7466
    @ordinarygamer7466 20 днів тому +1

    ok
    i enjoyed it
    it might not be the brightest ending out there but i had fun memories with this.

  • @edwardgabrielsantos
    @edwardgabrielsantos Місяць тому +3

    What an ending for me. I may only see the anime before the manga, which I wasn't interested at first. But now I am, and I guess it's finally over. There is still the extra chapter in the final volume along with the light novel in December, I hope u will cover that up on that time. I will say thank u for everything u have done, especially sharing the story with me and all others. I'm glad that I got to know you from each other. Also, I'm happy that Ruby is able to move on forward to the future Ai and Aqua left for her despite she never get over their losses. For she becomes an idol that shines brightly from the darkness and while she may becoming like Ai, she is better than that. I also thank Aka and Mengo for making the story possible after this years. Good luck then, and I hope u work hard and well.

    • @edwardgabrielsantos
      @edwardgabrielsantos Місяць тому +1

      @ZephyrRetro, u will know what I mean from the comment I send...

  • @alexandru_10
    @alexandru_10 Місяць тому +2

    Thank u so much for making videos abt Oshi no ko bro
    The ending wasn t the best but it was a good one
    Happy that Ruby can move on now
    Cannot wait for your new manga

  • @rain12512
    @rain12512 Місяць тому +4

    Honestly, this manga has been such an emotional rollercoaster. So sad to see the manga got rushed. I’ll take what I can get tho since even Aka wanted to end his story this quick. The ending wasn’t what I hoped for but I honestly expected a major death back in the days that I was anticipating for more and more OnK chapters. It was fun but there’s still many questions that are unanswered tbh. Thanks for making these reviews. I feel a bit mixed abt the ending and want to see a bit more of the future after Aqua’s death but atp it can’t be helped unless they make some spin-offs and add some info which they most likely won’t do. I’m still not over the fact that this manga is over. But, it’s all over besides the special chapter we have to wait for in December. (I still pray there’s a chance for a spin-off or a slight bit more information on the future of the story besides the special volume/chapter.) welp it’s ggs chat. It was a fun ride

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому +2

      There is that Akane and Kana light novel coming out, so ig there’s that to look forward too. I really wanna see more of the future of the characters, so hopefully we get more content 🤞

    • @rain12512
      @rain12512 Місяць тому +3

      @ ig so yea but I mean like it’s most likely going to be pretty short since I believe aka wants to end his story quick like he has said in an interview. Well, there’s so many loopholes and unsolved questions in the story though so I hope theres gonna be more content still outside of the manga like the novels.

  • @Kokomiatyourservice
    @Kokomiatyourservice Місяць тому +2

    I hope they make Oshi no Ko 2 to see how Ruby goes! She truly became like her mother even when she didn't seem like she would ever at the start!❤

  • @EtronX348
    @EtronX348 Місяць тому +4

    I like finally seeing the extend of Ruby's grief, but I still wanted Taiki and Ruby to interact since he's the only blood-relation in this world. The ending is devicsive in my eyes but satisfying
    Well its finally over...now what do i do

  • @CM-dx6xu
    @CM-dx6xu Місяць тому +2

    I think Aka fixed the ending here. Ruby's brokenness from Aqua's death being the forever lie that Ruby has to put up makes sense. Aqua's death is literally the most tragic thing that can happen to Ruby.

  • @SweetSentiLight101
    @SweetSentiLight101 Місяць тому +16

    I just heard that the special and regular edition will have so many pages...like COME ON..THEY BETTER NOT CHANGE IT BUT THIS JUST GETS ME SOOO HYPED UP ABOUT IT!!!!''
    I LUV AKA SAKA..AND MENGO! HOPE THIS WAS ALL A BIG FAT NIGHTMARE AND DREAM...WHICH REVEALS THAT EVERYONE IS ACTUALLY ALIVE AND ALL THAT. NGL...
    CROW GIRL AS I EXPECTED DIDN'T EVEN GIVE THE AI.KEYCHAIN BACK TO RUBY!!!'''
    UGHHHHHH CURSE U,AKA SAKA FOR MAKING HER USELESS!!!!

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому +3

      I’m happy with any extra pages tbh 😂 so hopefully they some extra info on the crow girl or something

    • @SweetSentiLight101
      @SweetSentiLight101 Місяць тому +2

      @@ZephyrRetro yea cause this is what we need before the year ends...!🤧💖

    • @VeryverityPlayz
      @VeryverityPlayz Місяць тому +1

      we need bird girl to explain more! Come on man

  • @edwardgabrielsantos
    @edwardgabrielsantos Місяць тому +1

    What a long journey for you and me in this as it is finally over for Oshi no ko. I felt sorry for Ruby as she had been crying so much after Aqua's death and must have been in pain more than anyone else. Yet, I'm glad that she stood up to move forward and fulfill the dreams Ai and Aqua wanted as she performed in the Tokyo Dome with everyone watching her dance, becoming the best idol to everyone. Well, there is still the extra chapter in December to cover up, and we will be excited while waiting for season 3 of the anime next year. What story in that chapter will be, we will find out soon. For the conclusion of the series, I will say it was satisfying enough for me. it doesn't matter what others expected.
    Thank you, Zephy, for covering Oshi no ko in its story and sharing it with us. I and all others appreciate you and your work, and I'm glad that I got to know you. It was indeed a fun ride for us.

  • @Dr3aMy00
    @Dr3aMy00 Місяць тому +4

    Were getting a bonus/special chapter on December 18th. Which will uncover a "Certain Truth"

    • @Hoyodeaf_bring_PJC_back
      @Hoyodeaf_bring_PJC_back Місяць тому

      What's the point to this certain truth? Is it gonna make this end any better or what? lmao what a joke

  • @Savirusathnindu
    @Savirusathnindu Місяць тому +2

    Bro you are the best man beginning to the end I watched your videos bro thanks ❤

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому

      Appreciate the support, thank you! 😁

  • @r3x85
    @r3x85 Місяць тому +3

    Very disappointed that they didn't have Aqua or Ai reincarnate or Aqua fake his death.

    • @Novaurawr
      @Novaurawr Місяць тому

      Tbh I don’t think a reincarnation of Ai/Aqua or have him fake his death would’ve been a great choice it would’ve felt even more rushed than his death due to being in the last 2-3 chaps.

    • @jaanhavi0_0
      @jaanhavi0_0 Місяць тому +1

      Yea cuz that would hv been an actually interesting twist in the story than what we got

  • @Denz4ya
    @Denz4ya Місяць тому +2

    Here's my opinion regarding overall of Oshi No Ko's story:
    Was the story that bad? I would say not really. I think the intention of the mangaka created the story was not romanticizing the entertainment industry in real life, instead they were trying to tell us about the dark side of it. People are trying harder to be popular, even they could sacrifice their own life to get there. And there are consequences when you are one step away to get on top. Either hide lies, or die because you're exposing it. Especially in Japan, there are certain "golden rules" to be on top like what we read on some arcs in the manga. I have a friend who were working as an Idol in my country, and the way she told the story about life as an idol, it was 100% related to Oshi No Ko.
    The thing that I said the story is not really bad, is because there are still some plot holes. And yes, hopefully the special chapter next month will answer our questions.

  • @MananKandhari
    @MananKandhari Місяць тому +8

    As a person who read this chapter 4 hours later after its release, I'll say something that the whole reddit will be after my ass.
    The bittersweet ending in the whole context of the story being "Japan's Idol Industry" Is a perfect ending in that context and the stories of Aqua, Ruby, Kana and Akane were a sub plot for the main motive of the story that fans don't want to accept. Onk was never a romance, the love part was used to increase tension and drama not a main part of the story's foundation.
    I'll give credit to Master Aka about creating a story although flawed, just good to corner the protagonist at a point and the other factors reinforcing the action directly proportional. Since in a country like Japan, no one would ever believe in reincarnation mumbo jumbo (real statistics say that most of Japan's population is atheist)
    But my praise aside, Kana got the shortest end of stick as Aka hyping up her Galaxy Eyes was just False Marketing at it's worst and what's the goddam spirit realm of this world is about? Tsukyuomi from shintoism, from what I know has somewhat of a reincarnation power. Looks like Aka just made her a plot device of info yapping.
    But alas, the story is done. Looks like gotta wait Spring 2025 for what another Said Disappointment is Aka cookin?

    • @Novaurawr
      @Novaurawr Місяць тому +1

      I think what OnK needed was more chaps. I’m fine with the ending,but I think we needed more interactions & explanations for stuff rather than stuff being changed we needed stuff added.

  • @Iamhazelrosie
    @Iamhazelrosie 20 днів тому

    AAAGHHHH I miss reading oshi no ko😿 before it ended, and it was really fun watching your videos!!!!!!

  • @neerajoshi5473
    @neerajoshi5473 Місяць тому +13

    Can’t believe it’s been four years. I was one of the first people to read this manga when it first came out. I remember when I first started reading it you don’t have 20 chapters out. I am proud that I was one of the first people to read this when it was brand new I can’t believe it finally ended it’s a sad day we will not have any new chapters every Wednesday to read anymore. What a journey it has been today is a bittersweet day thank you aka and mengo For bringing us this amazing story even though I am not completely satisfied with the ending I really enjoyed the whole Manga It has been a while 4 years I am satisfied, but also sad this manga ended. Hope I can find another manga to replace this one thank you oshi no ko for the four years you have been with us and thank you aka for four years, you wrote the story for us to read. I hope your next manga also is a banger Oshi no ko Truly, is one of a kind Mangal there will never be a manga like this ever again. I’ll miss this story characters, manga, and everything about the series thank you for the last four years 🥹😭

    • @ZephyrRetro
      @ZephyrRetro  Місяць тому

      I’m kinda in the same boat lol started when there was like 15-20 chapters, so pretty early too, except I took breaks and would catch up every few months or so until I started making reviews. The ending was very bittersweet, but I’m satisfied as well. Definitely gonna be missing this one 🥲

  • @gnw_AstA
    @gnw_AstA Місяць тому +2

    I mean, I get what Aka was going for but the fact that he rushed through a lot of things, left a lot of side plots hanging, and just circling back to where it all started, thereby rendering the previous character developments null and void while also sending a counterproductive message despite all previous undertones pointing otherwise is………….
    ….
    yeah this kind of shit is inexcusable 😂

    • @CheekiTiki
      @CheekiTiki Місяць тому

      Say it with me:
      This shit... is so ass

  • @omni_awareness67
    @omni_awareness67 Місяць тому +4

    it's a semi-decent ending I guess? but it really suffers from not having enough pages to finish or expand on the idea, 28 pages for a finale is just wrong, could've used some extra ones to idk show more of how ruby and girls bounced back from the grief and sadness, more on the journey of b-komachi to the dome, otherwise it looks like a "oh he died, anyway" moment, another "it's not bad but could've been much better" ending to the recent pile of finished manga

  • @ZLS-G
    @ZLS-G Місяць тому +1

    I cried while watching this video such in amazing series and my number 1. Thank you so much for these videos they we're great

  • @thedragonemperor1275
    @thedragonemperor1275 Місяць тому +3

    Started watching this from a normal anime to catching upto the end of manga. In the end it just turned out to be a masterpiece with a average or rather bad ending. Surely this will be missed……

  • @stephenenns1386
    @stephenenns1386 Місяць тому +2

    I have no issues with what happens, it’s how it is all written that is the tragedy.

  • @kokoro7996
    @kokoro7996 Місяць тому +18

    Just like the ED for season 1 foreshadowed Aqua’s end, the ED for Season 2 foreshadowed Ruby’s end.
    Visually, she’s wearing the same outfit, and the scene of her running is almost identical to the one from the ED. But also, I feel like the lyrics of the song represent Ruby’s feelings by the end of the story as well.

    • @RkWasTaken
      @RkWasTaken Місяць тому

      ED?

    • @kokoro7996
      @kokoro7996 Місяць тому

      @ The ending that would play at end of each episode.

  • @louaev686
    @louaev686 Місяць тому +1

    6:07 this reminded me of what Ai said to goro on the hospital rooftop saying how both of them keep piling on lies after lies yet it still being fun

  • @LiricaAtelier
    @LiricaAtelier Місяць тому +3

    I'm gonna be honest. I really hoped that Kana will be winner, I admit it! However that's not my biggest problem. Yeah, I was scared seeing Aqua's last moments and I cried seeing my lovely Kana so broken. Poor girl :( But the story lead nowhere. First Ruby as Sarina suffered and than another life time because why not Aka, right?
    Aqua manipulator decided to be a badass by taking his life. COME ONE! REALLY!?
    Oshi no ko ended with ....what? Nothing changed except everyone recived huge trauma. . Conratulations Aqua, you idiot!
    Any ending would be better. EVEN THAT STUPID incest (personaly I would hate it) ending would be more better than what we've recived. Another AoT. Are you serious? T^T WHY?!

    • @alicool4837
      @alicool4837 Місяць тому +2

      I think it was clear aqua liked kana and kana liked aqua
      If he lived pretty sure she would have won

    • @CheekiTiki
      @CheekiTiki Місяць тому +1

      Aka really had me thinking Kana finally got the W only to give her the fattest L imaginable 😂

    • @LiricaAtelier
      @LiricaAtelier Місяць тому +1

      @@CheekiTiki I don't even care about her slapping you know what. I don't care. She was real, true to herself, not a single star of lie in every single moment of Oshi no ko. I may be stupid but I was always with her no matter what. I even bought her nendroid

    • @alicool4837
      @alicool4837 Місяць тому

      @@CheekiTiki i mean almost everyone got fat L
      Aka releasing his inner Oprah akane take L kana take L everyone will get L

    • @alicool4837
      @alicool4837 Місяць тому +1

      @@LiricaAtelier yeah i agree i mean the story start with the saying lies become the truth some characters thrived in lies
      I never felt kana lied she was genuine

  • @Noctis05
    @Noctis05 Місяць тому

    thank you its been a long journey. thank you zephyr , hope you pick some new manga later on !! lots of love