Hiawatha: The Man Who Unified 5 Warring Native American Tribes | Before Columbus
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
- Hiawatha and The Peacemaker is a legendary figure in Native American history. He arrived in the region at a time of brutal warfare between established Native American tribes. Their actions unified these warring states and established the Iroquois Confederacy, leading to a period of peace between them.
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My family comes from Ireland. As an Ironworker in NYC I’ve worked with hundreds of Mohawks and Kahnawakes by now. Good People, hard workers.👍 But it wasn’t until I watched a documentary that an African Tribe made (somewhere in Nigeria I think) that in all my years of Ironworking was my mind blown. (If you work with iron or even metal in any way you HAVE TO watch this video). They did an hour or 2 long video, but it was done over 2 days, to record their knowledge, for posterity, on ancient African iron ore smelting. AMAZING! They used nothing but the land and everything by hand.🤯 They dug some raw iron ore out of a hill side (not even even a mining operation, just by hand, digging out a few good pieces), they made a kiln out of clay, and with straw to make it harder, by hand, they made the air blower things out of pieces of wood and sheepskin….just the whole process from start to finish, with just a few people, all from the land, all by hand, and made an axe 🪓. So amazing to actually see it done, the way they did for thousands of years.
History is History; And to that extent, All knowledge is worthwhile. I sense a Great Deal of Glamorizing and Sugar Coating in this well done production. IF; A similar methodology were used Post 1492, I would venture to say that atrocities could be readily overlooked (e.g., 1 min. segment at the 14 min. 30 sec. Mark, Human Sacrifice) and Barbarity could be rationalized as Culture.
You mean the Aztecs forced system of payments, conquering of people, and thousands upon thousands of sacrifices wasn’t all that bad
Sounds like Viking Paganism and pre Christian European culture 🤷🏻♂️
The story really lends to being a blockbuster movie or show. I think it's a story and heritage worth celebrating
As a person who has sat down and heard at least one version of the spoken oral tradition of this story , When we talk about it. "we" Europiens allways leave out the important little details in order to shorten its length.. The critical bits of the story that drive ones perseptions upon our actions and cause us to take pause in relation and then refect upon our own ethical actions, so they are said to be a part this storys "medicine" layers.. .These layers and there living examples impact us both as a person as well as a community , if we leave one of those key bits out. or twist one of its layers a little bit we will shift the meaning of orignal story and its teachings. so we really need to be careful to point them out, if we shorten the story.. Here is a quesiton that I asked ? Was "Tadadaho" an Evil man from his birth ? remember within "our" cultural way of thinking we been guided by our peoples infulence instutions, that reflect a rather two sided "dualistic" labeling language. and this way of thinking.that was taught to us by the infulence roots of christian idology. The "Us and "Them" and "Good and Evil" angle.. "but" we must consider that not all people in the world where taught to think and "See" in that mannor. and because of this we unwittingly infulence there storys when we "touch" them ,, Attotaro who became "Tadadaho" was a human "being" just like any other he had been brought up within the body of his people's culture and community into a very strong set of virture and compassion values, and his reflection of them was "seen" by many of his people and "recognised" making him a canidate for being a respected leader of there people. So what happend to Attotaro before he became the man with 7 crooks in his body and (symbolic) snakes in his hair ?? I think this is really important..and its not simple as one thinks, as well as strong ethical warning for all who listen to the story. we need to beware of these internal layers developing within our own sociaty, and point out any of them that do we need to recognise the danger of these layers. .., What did "they" do to him ???? , ua-cam.com/video/iIQfsnppYYw/v-deo.html , The roots of this story drove a lot of deep questions and refections upon the living examples of cycle of "revenge" and "retaliation" that continues to run its ugly cource over hundredes and hundredes of years within the body of our people's politics and idology ,(Layers like "The doctrine of discovery" That we still avoid talking about.. we have never demostrated the abiltiy to condole and to break out of that awful feedback loop The three people "The peacemeker / Haiawatha (what we call him) and Jigonsaseh (the one whos deep role is often left out. but thankfully not here) set an example of a people's abilty to tackle and heal from this issue internaly as well as reflectivly addresing the core human behavior issue at its very roots .. in humble core recognition We all stand to learn a lot from its layers and living examples.
Oh hey look it’s the train guy
Hiawatha was from the Huron tribe and a great visionary. This isn't just a story my people the Anishinaabe talked about Iroquois and warred with them a lot. They tried to sneek an attack on my band where our reservation is now. They snuck under darkness but our warriors saw them coming and so were able to hide the elders, children and women and hid them in the caves. The Iroquois never stood a chance my people slaughtered them where they stood on the shore of Lake Superior at the place we now call Iroquois point by the lighthouse at Whitefish Point. There is a stretch of sand and a sign that says Iroquois point. Those Iroquois warriors are buried under the sand on the beach right where they fell!
You are wrong, Hiawatha also known as Ayenwatha or Aiionwatha, was a leader and cofounder of the Iroquois Confederacy. He was a leader of the Onondaga people. According to some accounts, he was born an Onondaga but adopted into the Mohawks.....Great Peacemaker
Skennenrahawi, Deganawida or Dekanawida was a Huron.
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